May 1, 2024 • 51 mins
In this episode, the 3-on-3 hosts dissect the Nuggets' Jamal Murray sending the Lakers packing with another game winner. LeBron James's future with the Lakers will have Bronny James attached.
Then co-host Terrika Foster-Brasby sounds off on Bradley Beal's bold statements backfiring as the Suns get swept.
Plus, Shari honors Chicago legend Candace Parker following her retirement, discussing her legacy and passing the torch in the WNBA.
There is a changing of the guard in the NBA and WNBA. The hosts break it down in this week’s Jump Ball segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yo yo, What is good? Everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to another episode of the three on three Pod.
I'm Chris Williamson, one of your hosts, joined by Tarika
Foster Brasby and Scharino Cole and y'all, the NBA playoffs
have delivered. We got so much entertainment. What y'all feeling
right now? Before we actually dive into the heart of things.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
To Rika, I'm feeling like I should say I told
you so, and we'll talk about why later in the show,
but we know we told you so.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You got anything to add, Teria, You're just gonna be giggling.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Feeling so good. I'm feeling so good. Shout out to
the Denver Nuggets. And yeah, all the people that have
been trolling me because of my comments about Lebron James
have a great off season. I wish you all the
best and uh yeah, I have more thoughts as well.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
But I'm feeling really good.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, we can see your your your smile is uh infectious, right,
infected all of us. Now here's the thing, though, at
least the Lakers didn't get swept like last year.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
That's progress. Did you just four last year? This year
Game four, they come out.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And they don't blow that double digit le Nuggets look right,
they you know, took their foot off the gas, so
they lose in five.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And I'm not I'm Chris, I'm not being I'm being.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
This is how we're qualifying, quantifying success for the Lendo.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
They're a good old consolation prize.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They did not get.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Swept the.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Bar. That's how.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's how low the bar is Scherie, don't cop a
me like that, Like, no, it was not impressive whatsoever,
especially after they made the Western Conference Finals last year.
I'm just saying it because there's so many storylines that
you can poke fun at with the Lakers, for the
fact that Jamal Murray snatching their soul not once but
(02:08):
twice in this series with game winners won a buzzer
beater doing.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It on an injured calf.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Like Nuggets, they haven't even played their best basketball and
they only they won in five, and I feel like
they have so much more to give. But when it
comes to the Lakers love you lost eleven in a
row against Nuggets at one point, and then you lose
(02:35):
twelve of the last thirteen. Darvin Ham is an individual
who does not see awareness or any type of accountability
for himself, like it's all about well, yeah, if it's
pretty you know, people talk about rotations, but it's pretty hard,
you know, to have success when one of your players,
(02:57):
What are your players playing like shit for ten straight games?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Like yeah, health as well, what you had?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh my god, for a team that had Lebraun and
eighty playing the most of this most of the year,
and then their cores like Ruy, Austin Reeves, Danzel Russell,
Torian Prince and I know Torri and we'll get into
Torrian later. You can't be making you cannot place the
blame on health, like I know Jared Vanderbilt was injured
(03:24):
and he's one of your better defenders, Christian Wood, but
please have some respect for yourself and look in the mirror.
Darvin Ham talking about, yeah, if we had the health,
it would be better. No, if you call the time out,
If you call the time out anytime before Denver went
up seventy four to seventy one, after you're up sixty
(03:45):
nine to sixty, maybe you're in a different position here.
Maybe we're talking about the series extendent, but now you
want to keep your hands in your pockets.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
But I'm done because I've had it.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I feel like you got.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Ham and the Lakers his rotations, and I can consistently
deflex and rarely takes accountability. So now I'm gonna let
Seri go off because I know she's been sitting. Both
of y'all have for that matter, sitting this itching to
get her shit off enough.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
You talk about not taking accountability, and I said last
week you bleed from the head. Guess who else isn't
taking accountability Lebron James from the refs to the same
conversation about injuries. We don't want to hear it. You
weren't the better team period. Denver came out the last game,
played horribly in the first half, arguably, and you still
(04:40):
how do you go into halftime? How do you lead
most of the series, most of the minutes of the series,
you were in the lead, and you blow games that
will stopping with the excuses, the tantrums continued.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I'm just tired of the excuses.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I need Lebron James and company to say, you know what,
we just weren't the best team. You can't say all
these things about injuries when you have Joel and beat
over here with a bum knee and Bell's palsy, still
putting up MVP type numbers.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I simply don't want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Sorry, I wish you well, go fishing, do whatever you
need to do, but we don't want to hear excuses
Jamal Murray walking around. You mentioned this calf, he's injury two,
he's dunking on Lebron James hidden game winners. So your
excuses don't match up when there's other teams and other
players that are fighting through those same excuses and winning
(05:33):
basketball games. I don't know why they're living in this
alternate reality because nobody's buying it. And mind you, it's
okay if you're not the best. We all can recognize
that there's a changing of the guard that's happening. I'm
sure we'll talk about that later, so I won't get
into it.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
But the reality is.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Lebron James, you're almost forty, you're a human being.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
The reality is Anthony Davis. I loved what he did.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
This series in terms of his consistency, But again, I
just knew it was gonna happen. Y'all to the locker
room with a little boo boo, because it's gonna happen
every single time you let the same player hit two
game winners in the same series on you and you
want to talk about, Oh, we.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Don't really we didn't really know what type of team.
We were all sees because of the injuries.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I thought it was your team, Lebron, you set the tone,
That's what I thought. So this is the most confused
team I've seen in quite some time. And for Darvin
Ham to talk so bananas goodbye, I hope he's already
figured out where he's going to live because it's not
gonna be Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So I think I'm gonna be the person here sitting
on this Supreme Basketball Court Council with a dissenting opinion
because because I believe that Lebron James in ways did
set the tone. I think the problem is it wasn't
enough and it's never gonna be enough. It's just it's
(07:00):
never gonna be enough. Let's just think about it rationally.
Jamal Murray, you got thirty two points despite a strained cast. Joki,
he dropped twenty five and twenty despite giving up the
ball seven times. Michael Porter Junior, who gets in his
own way half the time, still scored thirty six. As
(07:20):
you mentioned, Denver trailed majority of the game and majority
of the minutes in the series, and they also, as
you mentioned, had to deal with their fair share of injuries,
but shooting, slums, miscommunications on defense, they did not play
their basketball, and through it all, with Braun giving you
thirty and eleven, Denver still found a way to win.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
So, to me, this was.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
More about Denver's resiliency and really more about how good
of a team they are than how ridiculously unprepared and
just not sufficient LA is. Because Shari and I both
said last episode this was a rap for LA, Like
we knew after game too when Jamal Murray hit the
first game winner that it was a rep for LA.
(08:05):
We said, as a matter of fact, I knew it
was a wrapped in. I actually said on last show
that I would give the Lakers the respect of not
saying that they would be swept in four games, which
they did not. But I knew the Lakers ain't had
no chance of winning this series. That's why I want
even tripping. So to me, this wasn't even about the
Lakers no more, this was about Denver. I wanted to
(08:26):
see how Denver would respond, And quite honestly, they didn't
start off this game responding well in this matchup. They
didn't start off this game looking as if they were
the reigning champions, but they found a way to win
despite the stuff that was happening around them. That's what
champions do. That's why I'm excited. So I don't think
that Bron didn't necessarily set the tone for his performance.
(08:49):
But what I will say is that it's not enough
and it's not going to be enough anymore, and LA
ain't figured out how to make it enough. You can't
ask Bron to give you forty minutes all season long
and then ask Bron to give you another forty minutes
throughout the playoffs by himself.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Dangelo Russell, where were you?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (09:08):
I can't find you.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Anthony Davis seventeen and fifteen is great for someone like
I don't know, Austin Reeves. That would be amazing for you.
It's not enough, not enough.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
To tell you.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The best ability is availability, And we never know about
Anthony Davis availability from game to game because it just
is what it is, right, We're so used to it.
It is not enough. Again, that's no shape on talent
that's no shade on anything or anyone, But it's just
the fact you could have got Broun in twenty two
thousand and four, that bron could carry a team twenty
(09:44):
twenty four, Brons not carrying a team by himself. It's
just not enough. And I don't know if the Lakers
are ever going to present enough, especially if they're talking
about drafting Bronni to make sure that Lebron stays.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
You're willing to risk I.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Think someone who could really help your franchise to draft
Ronnie so that he could play with Brin And I
get it. At the end of the day, bron is
gonna bring you bread. He's gonna bring people to the seats,
He's gonna sell tickets. You're gonna make the bread. But
you can know what you're gonna be in.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
The same position you are right now.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Or worse right It could be worse or worse.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So yeah, like this wasn't even about La to me,
La was a rap last week. This was this was
about Denver, and Denver responded it well. And I cannot
wait to see them up against Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh that that is going to be a blood bat.
Anthony Edwards, you know he's coming for blood. He's a superstar.
He's a rived, right going at Kad you got Yo
Kich and Murray. I was that one on one match
between Murray and Anthony Edward.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
That's gonna be special.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
But here, here's the thing that I'm really still stuck
on is how Torrian Prince at the postgame pressure with
Jared Vanderbilt started laughing at some feedback that was coming
from the microphone I guess was on the zoom or whatever.
And Jared Vanderbilt was in no mood to laugh and to.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And then.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Torri and cees Jared not laughing.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
He's like, oh, I guess I shouldn't be laughing, and
Jared Vanderbilt gives him like the death there, like, motherfucker,
can you read the rooms?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
He lost in five games? You over here laughing.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Sometimes to keep from crying.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yes, that check was still clearing. The jeck was the
check was still clear for my mandatorium prints. But yeah,
it's it's crazy, the whole the whole roster construction, just
some of the excuses that they made.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
But three kus Pin, Yeah, it was more about Denver.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I know the Lakers gave away the game in a
lot of ways, but particularly at the free throw line.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
You can't do that. Like, if they hit like half
of the free throws, they probably win.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But it's just a team that they have a ceiling
that is not going to ever be better than the
Nuggets as currently constructed. It's not it and the help
doesn't help as well. But there are some very uncomfortable
decisions that Lebron James and the Lakers are going to
(12:20):
have to make next season because Lebron has a player
option for fifty one million, and he can become an
unrestricted free agent, test the waters, go wherever he once,
you know, use his leverage, maybe with Bronni staying in
the draft so we know he's not going back to
college and fear.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I pray for that man seriously.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Because of what's about to come his way. But Tarika,
what do you think Lebron should do? Should he be like, yo, dude,
because I gave y'all ship. I don't care if it
was in the bubble, now that that championship was earned,
so y'all should be grateful that I came here.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
He gave him AI this year, y'all don't remember they
hung a medal in December.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
They hung a man are in December, and we all
said it was a fool.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
They got a trip, they got a should.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Take that down, They should take that down.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I don't know what you're talking about. Lebron has done
his job in LA.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
He gave them a banner to hang twice, one in
the bubble and one for the end season tournament.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Yo, stop this, Terrika, stop it. Stop it right now.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
The petty, the levels of petty, I'm not I can't
even perceive them at this point.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
You are beyond right now as.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Far as i'm the cern, Bron, you did your job.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Bron.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
You are a winner. Number one. You got the rings,
you got the chips.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Number two, you are a well versed business man. You
don't need to play basketball no more to continue to
be successful.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
You got movie deals, you got companies, you got liquor,
you got any and everything.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
You just sat on the podium last night, Auntil talked
about how your other son is looking at playing basketball
and college and stuff. You got your baby girl playing volleyball.
Savannah out here being an awesome black woman.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Correct, go home, just go home, just for real. You
ain't got nothing else to prove to nobody. Just go home.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Because the Lakers is not gonna give you what you deserve,
and Bronnie damn showing what your team deserve.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
So go home.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It's cool, ain't nobody mad get your lunch pail, clock
out and.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Be like, I'm out, doces.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
But I mean, of course, I'm sure they'll coerce him
to stay.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I'm sure he'll pick up his option.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I'm sure they will pay him just like they did Kobe.
I'm pretty sure they will allow Brownie to come and
just give him his dreams so he can have his
farewell tour and everyone can. I mean, it's deserved. Won't
act like it ain't deserved, your farewell tour and all
of that stuff. So I'm sure I'm sure he'll.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Do all of that. But if it were me, I'm
pulling the canvas park.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'm out, boom boom out.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
His ego is too big to do that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Sadly, he's too big of a baby at times to
allow himself to just bow out gracefully. He needs a
whole parade. They will do an entire rollout. It will
be the biggest farewell tour you've ever seen. I do agree, Terika,
that Brianni will be involved. In that in some way,
shape or form, which I think again is very short
(15:28):
sighted by the Lakers. I get it, but it's just
a very short sighted business decision that I think ultimately
is going to put them in the rear for a
long time. I think he needs to sit down as well.
I think, you know, you're gonna play in the Olympics
this summer. You have a good opportunity at winning a
gold medal. So here you go again, getting another medal
under your belt again. I think Lebron James just has
(15:51):
a perpetual chip on his shoulder that's never going to
go away. And my concern for him is that with
that said, he's going to wear out his welcome and
we're seeing that already happening. It's not that people don't
want to see how great he is, but you know,
I think a part of him enjoys the whole conversation around.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
He's almost forty and look at what he just did,
and you know he has to have.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Some level of of of of engine behind his back
in that way from the fans and from the commentators.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
I think he needs that.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
And you know, my whole thing is I don't want
I don't want to see him get hurt either. You know,
we saw you know what happened with Kobe and other
players that just kind of they just played too long.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
But yes, he's going to have an entire ordeal.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I joke around a lot about Lebron and I obviously
I'm not a Laker fan, but Treica said it best.
You've done everything possible to cement yourself on atop the
Mount rushmore of the greatest basketball players of all time. Sadly,
Lebron James, there are a lot of people who will
(16:53):
never reference you as the goat. I don't care if
you play ten more years. So I think once he's
at peace with that and totally okay with everything he's accomplished,
he will leave. I think he's still caught up in
a unanimous global decision from all of us that he's
the greatest ever play the game.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
But I wish him and Briannie and Bright's the best
in Savannah and their beautiful daughter. But go go enjoy
your family. You got the shop, you got the new
podcast with JJ Reddick.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I know you're a billionaire.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
You can do whatever you want to do, and I
think it would be it would be wise of him
to show young people an example of you know what,
this is what happens when you give your you give
your best to a game, and you can smoothly transition
out of it and you set yourself up to be
successful in so many other aspects of life.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
You don't have to ride it to the wheels fall off.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
And I think he's dangerous, dangerously close to doing that,
and that's my concern for him. But you know, he
did everything he could, as as you guys both mentioned,
because there's nothing else he can do.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It really is.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, well you see what happened, and he lost his
whole family. But I won't even going to that.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
See what I'm saying, Like for real, that's what I'm saying.
That's and that's the point.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
That's the point, Like, don't get to the point where
the game overtakes your reality. Like you've done what you
needed to do, move on, be more of a pay Manning.
Pey Manning was the was the guy who went out
on a Super Bowl run. He went out as a champion. Now, granted,
there were moments in that season where you'd be like, hey,
(18:23):
you ain't looking characteristically like yourself. But at the end
of the day, people have a recency bias, and what
they remember is the Broncos stomping the Panthers and you
moving on to the next phase of your career as
a champion. Unfortunately, that might not be the ending for
Lebron as being a champion, but we can still see
(18:45):
you go out as a forty year old who gave
everything to the game and left like at the top
of his game.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Left left, left it.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Not because I could not play anymore, not because I
was injured, not because you know what I'm saying. I
was resorted to to twelve points a game, like you
still averaging twenty six.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Point like, bro, like that is great. It ain't Lebron high.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But seriously, Bradley Beal wished he was still with averaging twenty.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
So don't get me started on him. Don't get me
started on please, don't please, don't do that.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
That's where we are.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Let's get started off, can we, Chris answer yeah, because
we need.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
To get started on them.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
We ain't get start in the sun. Man. We just
talking about way too much by the Laker's sons. Don't
deserve our time on this.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
They do. Oh you can't do to them. Don't catch
this smoke. Bill was gonna catch this smoke today.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Chris, because oh well look, look, Bradley Bell did not
show up in the biggest game of his life today, right,
or one of the biggest game in life. Says I'll
be damn if I get swept and he goes out
with nine points.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
He didn't show up a period.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Hey, the sons have some issues, Like Katie got what
he wanted. Third star Chris Paul looking a whole lot
more valuable, right because of that floor general, absolutely true
point guard and we saw I mean these every where
Kadi goes.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Now it's something else, the.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Curse of the Big Three. As we've discussed, let's limit
let's eliminate that entire ideal. When it comes to Kevin Durant.
It doesn't work with him, and it will not work.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I want y'all to know what this man said, Suari, like,
I've never been more frustrated with a team than I
am with a team that's not mine, y'all. I ain't
never been more frustrated with a team that's not mine. Okay,
this man, Bradley Beal said, I mean in retelsprit and
I'm quoting this, y'all. I mean in retrospect, we won
(20:45):
forty nine games. That's a lot of games, and I
missed what thirty games roughly, that's a lot of games.
I'm not saying we'd have won every game if I'd play,
but we would be in a totally different position if
I'm healthy the whole year, if everybody's healthy the whole year.
End quote, Bradley, shut the hell up. Just shut the
(21:09):
hell up, because we know you want healthy when you
came there. You want a healthy when you got there, sir?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And even then, if you had Booker, Bills and Durant
playing exactly half the season together, which they did, had
they stayed healthy, they probably could have won around fifty
two games. You probably could have been what fourth in
the West?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Maybe? But what the hell do I have to do
with right now?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Because y'all were healthy enough to share the floor against
Minnesota and you underperformed.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Y'all have the worst.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Plus minus of any trio in the postseason. Bradley built
out her averaging sixteen and a half points in the playoffs.
And then you have the audacity to write a check
that your ass k Cash talking about y'all ain't gonna
get swept by dude. Your ass got swept like you
got swept. My good what are we doing? And Matt
(22:02):
Is should be a god bless your soul because I
bet you are a nice person, family man doing all
this wonderful course, I believe it. I bet you're a
nice guy. But you know what you are not right now.
You're not a good owner, You're not a good executive.
You need some assistance because I don't know what the
hell y'all thought y'all were doing in Phoenix, And this
is what really killed me.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Chris Haynes went on another show.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Much Respected went on another show and mentioned that Frank
Vogo was saying that he was desperately trying to get
a point guard and they wouldn't give him one.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Oh you mean like the point guard?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Y'all?
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Let go that olden statement.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Done.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I'm done. I'm done, and I'm gonna let it go.
I really am.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
But I'm just so disappointed because I feel part a
part of me has a soft spot for Devin Booker,
because Devin Booker's from me, you know what I mean,
And a part of me is like I want to
I want to see another Michigan or be successful. The
other part of me is like, this is what y'all
get for continuing to drive this narrative that you need
specific play and that that these players that look good
(23:02):
in the media shoots, and that these players that look
good on cam on paper and look good on camera
are going to perform well. If you do not have continuity,
if you do not have chemistry, if you do not
have the ability to have availability, this is what you get.
I really hope Phoenix serves as a freaking reminder to
all the executives moving forward to cut.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
This Big three shit out.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Just get players who play and play well and make
it happen. Stars can become stars if they're good enough.
You don't have to pair them with other people just
for name value to say that you have stars on
your team. And if you don't believe me, Oklahoma City
is the example.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yes, they're forfeiting the fundamentals. They're forfeiting fundamentals, and I
don't That's the thing is like, isn't this pro basketball? Yeah,
we're getting swept up in the minutia of someone's stock.
It's fascinating to me, Like, first of all, Phoenix. You
have absolutely no excuse. I am completely disgusted as Tarika,
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and I'm sure Chris is as well. But why are
we assembling? We don't care about the fundamentals of basketball.
You put a team together knowing you don't have a
floor general. We all know that Katie is not the
most vocal of leaders anyway, That's not what you're gonna
get from him. You'll get a certain level of output.
So if you don't have a floor general, somebody who's
more outspoken, who can rilly the troops in conjunction with
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what you know he's going to give you, you have
failed from the onset. Yeah, so I'm just at a loss,
a lost with a T when I'm so confused. I'm
at a loss with a T about how they even
constructed this team and for this to be NBA Pro basketball.
It is a sham. It is an example, but is
also a complete embarrassment period.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I have no argument with that whatsoever. And it seems
like Frank Vogel getting embarrassed as well. We saw an
Letick article where he was yelling at the team to
get more out of him at one point, and they
didn't see it as being authentic and one person, one
player even laughed at him.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
So that tells you. And I like Frank Vogel, and.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I don't think he's going to get the proper respect
he gets because of the proper love he deserves, just
because of what's going on with the son's roster. But yeah,
they got a lot of things to figure out, and
we're still, or at least I'm still trying to figure
out how it is that Candas Parker is no longer
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playing in the WNBA. Like she really had the nerve.
And I'll say this with all good tends, she really
had the nerve to retire the day that training camp started, and.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I just I couldn't. I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I thought it was a joke because Candas Parker, I've
been watching her play basketball since the McDonald's All American Game.
Like we all knew or a lot of us knew
about this unicorn at the time with the way she played,
where she was able to play all five positions, and
she ends up being a three time WNBA champ, two
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time Olympic gold medalists, should have.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Been three geno, that's on you.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
The woman was the first and only rookie ever to
win Rookie of the Year in WNBA MVP in the.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Same damn year. And my only issue is that, given
her resume, like both domestically and overseas, that the mainstream
media did not give her her proper flowers when she
was playing. They did not highlight her enough to showcase
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how important she was to the game of basketball. And
that's with all the injuries she had, right, imagine if
she didn't suffer all these injuries, guys, you could have
had a couple more chips.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Yeah, and if she.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Didn't have Derek Fisher as a coach, lord knows what
the Skylman was. But we don't going to get into
that too much.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
And Shari, I know you have a personal connection given
where you're from and just how important she was to
you as well.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Yeah, what's crazy is we're the same age. I'll be
thirty eight years old in a couple months, and I
can't imagine still playing at a high level or really
at all in this thirty seven three fourths of years
old of a body. So first of all, just the
fact that she was able to last as long through
injuries and moving around with teams and different things, like
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that and not officely playing a lot of minutes as well.
Even from you know, high school all the way up
through is beyond commendable.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
That's number one.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
We are both from the same city essentially, you know,
Candics went to Naperville Central.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
I believe I have that correct. I want to throw
out with high school.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
We were both top players in are in the state
at the same time. Both of our teams were ranked
in the top twenty in the state at the same time.
She also she always felt to me like a distant rival.
I said that on Instagram the other day because we
only we never competed against each other on our high
school teams. I think I played against Candace one time
when we played in AAU. I think I might have
been a freshman or a sophomore in high school. But
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there was always this air of even though you're competitive, right,
you never want to own the fact when you're a
teenager that someone's better than you. You just you're in
your bag. You just never want to sit with that reality.
But the reality is she was yards ahead of pretty
much all of us, and for me being able to
see her ascension, being able to see her dominate at
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the high school level and then carry that right into
college again that is a big deal, and then again
from college all the way into the WNBA.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
So it's funny.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I met Candace formerly as adults a couple of years
ago at the Final four, and I said, up with
to Thornwood, I said, we never played against each other,
but we were always on the same list. There was
her name at the top. I was in there somewhere
as well, So it was good to finally kind of
have that conversation with her. But I can't stress enough
for anybody that's ever doubted how incredible of a feat
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it was for her to have the level of dominance
she had in the WNBA even in college. It's so
hard to play at this at a high level, even
from high school, college, whatever. It's very very difficult that
your body, especially as a woman, goes through so many
different changes. This woman has had a child, you know,
she's been through a lot of different things. And then
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for her to then balance the broadcast side of her
brand as she continued to move up the ranks and
still play, there is so much to be said about that.
And even in recent years we've seen her be even
more intent on Hey, I'm a mom, you know, I'm
a mom to you know, I got to you know,
her son when I saw her in twenty twenty two,
her son was he was still little, you know, and
now you have another child on the way.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Like, there's other priorities.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
So we talk about Lebron James and thinking about his priority.
She's in the same boat. I appreciate the fact that
she was mature enough to say I've given it all
I have and I have such a full life on
the other end of this, I can walk away with
this without.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
The pomping circumstance.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
And to be honest, I'm not shocked by her retirement.
I mean, we saw last year, you know, hampered by
another injury. You don't recover. Guys, come on, we almost forty.
Your body doesn't bounce back the same when you.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Have an injury, unless you Diana Tarrossia.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Let me tell y'all the story.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I was playing against high school kids three years ago,
and it was a cute little game coaches against players.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
That was dumb of me.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
When I tell y'all, I was, I was, I had
just scored, I was feeling myself, and I was retreating
and running backwards. No one was around me and I
rolled my ankle, asked me how long my ankle was hurt.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
I'm not asking me how long my ankle was hurting
for three months. So I need us to understand the
humanness involved in somebody making a decision to continue to
play at this age.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Job well doneis Parker. You've been an example for me
since I was an eighth grader, even if it was
just chasing the level of greatness that you always exemplified.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
So I am very happy for her. This should also
be a call out.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
As we move forward, as we talk about this incredible
rookie class that's entering into WNBA. They didn't do it
for Candace, and they didn't even do it for Maya.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Do it for these young ladies. Do it for the
age of Wilson's.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Do it for everybody else that's in the league that
is continued to sow the seeds and be great.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Do it for the Diana Tarasis.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
And I think it's an honor for us to be
able to do that for Candace right now, to say
thank you, to say job well done, like our platforms matter,
and I'm glad that we're able to do that. So
it's crazy to think about, but man, what a run
she has made. And I hope that she has a
level of happiness that she's never ever experienced in her
life on the hardwood as she, you know, moves away
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from it.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah three, And I don't really have much to add
after that, because you really summed it up beautifully. I
just want to continue to commend her. I had an
opportunity to kind of kick it. I don't want to
say with her, like we best friends or anything like that,
but I did get a chance to cover her intensely,
especially when she was in Chicago. Was literally on the
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court when she won her championship in Chicago.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Got a chance to cover.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Her again in Las Vegas, had an opportunity to have
dinner with her and some friends. Just we've just been
in the same space, around the same people at the
same time, so we've been able to interact in that way.
And every time I've had an opportunity to interact with Candace,
it's like, I can see why people love you, I
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can see why people gravitate to you. I can see
this powerhouse of a person that had nothing to do
with basketball, and I think that's what I admire most
that our interactions, for the most part, have not been
on a basketball court. It's you and your element with
your friends around your people, and you've just been able
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to sow seeds within those circles, and that has just
been tremendous. Candace has transcended generations. Has real Like literally,
you were a kid and you said, gosh, I want
to be Candas Parker. And now here we are thirty
plus years old, almost forty. For me and honey, I
show can't do nothing the way Candas Parker. Anybody else
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can't listen. We are all Greek on this call. I
go to a party and I strolled the next day.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I'm like, damn, where's the where's the baths?
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Needs? Like, what were you doing in the party last night?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Child?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's crazy, But she transcended generations, and I think that
is what really adds to her legacy is that no
matter what era of basketball you began in this sport,
when she hit the scene, you hear players now I
admire Candace Parker. You hear players like Asia Wilson's who
were her team, that say Candas Parker was my favorite player,
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and now I got to play beside her like, that's
the kind of transcendence that you rarely see. We throw
around the word generational talent so much that it really
starts to lose its value. But Candas Parker was a
generational talent, Like we will never see another Candas Parker,
and that's okay, Like it really is okay. Like that
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that value, that worthiness, that transcendence is something that we
get to admire in the first ballot Hall of Famer
for sure. So thank you, Candace for everything that you
gave us on the court and for everything that you
will continue to give us as a woman, as a mom,
as a broadcaster, as an entrepreneur, as anything that you
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want to see a young woman or young man grow
up and inspire to be.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Kndas Parker exudes.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
That, hey man, canis Parker To your point too, Rika
was probably more more exceptional as a p right or
as a person, and how she gave back and look
after the youngins like Kalia Copper, the Diamondus shields so
many Asia Wilson giving them mentorship and it's spread throughout
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the league, right, And so that's what really resonates with
me is the way she could have been selfish is
worried about her own stats, her own business. But no,
she said, Look, I'm in a position with a lot
of influence to impact people on and off the court,
and I'll make sure I take the necessary people under
my wing so that they know how to lead in
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this league and they know how to conduct themselves and
build not just on the court as a player, but
also off it. So yeah, Canis Parker, We are forever
grateful to you, We are indebted to you for all
you've done, and we really don't deserve you based on
the way people have diminished your legacy.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
And Jerique, I don't know if it was you, but
somebody said.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, I'm glad she didn't go out with a farewell
to er because she didn't want that fake love.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Right, Yeah, she didn't want that fake She didn't want
that fake love.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
She's already been named most overrated or was named most
overrated and athletic pull a.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Few years back.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
So yeah, I'm doing on my time the way I
want to and that's it.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So salute to her.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, before before we segue, I can I hit on
Tarika's point about the generational talent really quickly? Yeah, I
think where I think one point that we missed is
when Candice Parker was coming up through the rings, we
didn't see post players playing like guards. She is really
the first example that I remember seeing in real time
of a post player playing like a guard, and I
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think she set the tone for what we're seeing even now,
years later, and I think there's something to be said
about that. So when we talk about a generational talent
and how she shaped the game, she's she literally reshaped
how we view fours and fives on the floor for real.
There's something major to be said and celebrated about that.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, I want to, I say off the time, like
I swear to God, me and I feel like me
and Sharid be like in the same brain or something.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Because we have.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But I have said for years and still say that
when I think of the point forward, the two people
who come to my mind instantly is Kandae Parker in
Green Hill. Those are the first two I ever seen
to do it, like ever seem to do it. And
so yes, like you look at the post player position
now and you can put them anywhere in terms of
facilitation Candae Parker.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
No one in the w was doing that, No, not
even close.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Nobody was doing it.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
No one in high school, no one in college, no one, y'all,
there was nobody.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
We were there.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
There would be games, there would be you know, when
you trap played for a travel team, everybody, all the
great teams are playing in the same gym, and there
would be times when we would just be watching, like.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
How was she out here? How would you know?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Because coming up, you know during my time, you're a
post player. You're supposed to be on the block. What
are you doing out on the wing at all? You
should not be up there? Free throw line extended, if
it's not a high low, get on the block and
do what you need to do. So we were just
in awe of the way that she was able to
handle the ball, facilitate plays, and shoot from the outside
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as essentially a post player.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
It was so unheard of.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
I just wish that, or I desire that as we
celebrate her, as other outlets celebrate her, that they really
stick to that point. Because when you talk about somebody
revolutionizing and re calibrating the game of basket of women's basketball,
Candice Parker is up there with Mayamore.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
They're up there together, And I think that's an important
point to note.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Now one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I can't say enough great things about Cannis Parker, and
Becky Hmmon spoke on that as well, like she kind
of created this whole positionless basketball When she came around,
nobody had ever seen her right, and the fact that
she lived up to the hype is remarkable because not
everybody does when you have that.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Spotlight on you.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
But quickly, what do you guys think the Aces are
going to need to do when it comes to replacing
Candas Parker.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
You can't replace a Hall of.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Famer like that, but filling in the gaps to kind
of make sure the post area outside of Asia Wilson
is going to be strong, not just offensively but also defensively.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Tarrika.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
So I know this is going to sound crazy the
way that I'm going to say it, but allow me
to explain for two seconds. The Aces were fine before Candace.
The Aces will be fine without Candas. And what I
mean by that is simply Candace had already come to
a championship team. Now, she ain't a Kevin Durant, she
wasn't chasing the title. She clearly explained why she was
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where she was.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
It was closer to family.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
It gave her an opportunity to not necessarily be in
the spotlight. She could be a player that could just
really lend her leadership and her veteran presence unless being
needed to carry the team and to be the championship
player that people wanted her to be or that she
had to be in Chicago and in LA. So this
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is Asia's team, always was Asia team will always be
Asia's team as long as Asia Wilson is in an
Aces uniform. So the Aces will be fine. I know
they picked up Liz Kitley in a draft. She's more
than likely gonna sit a year because she's battling back
from an ACL injury.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
They the Aces will be fine.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Their chances at a three P did not diminish because
Kandas Parker is no longer gonna be playing on the team.
They will be fine. So I don't feel like there
is any drop off whatsoever. They didn't have Candace in
the postseason because she was ndered, and what did it
What did it mean?
Speaker 6 (40:43):
What did it matter?
Speaker 3 (40:44):
They had people to step up and to play position.
I mean, my god, Kia Stokes was like, yo, I
got this. I'm good, I'm straight. So the Aces will
be fine.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
I agree, and I'll venture to say they'll be better.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
And this is why to Tarika's they had a passing
of a baton that a lot of teams don't get.
So again, you get that leadership component, you get someone
like Candas Parker who's able to lead at Asia Wilson
and some of these young bucks and get them to
understand what it takes to be a champion. And then
the other end, like Terika mentioned, she with injuries come
inconsistencies when it comes to being on the basketball court.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
So a lot of people had to step up anyway.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
So now you have this core of players that are
even mentally tougher, They're stronger, they understand their level of value.
They'll probably be more consistent. Adria Wilson's only going to
get better and better. Her leadership skills are going to
be through the roof. And again, when you lose a
player like Candas Parker, there's something about it. I would imagine,
even with the core that are there that says, yo,
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now we really got something to prove, and Yo, we're
grateful that she was here. Let's honor her. Let's have
a three peet to honor everything that she gave. This organization.
So I'm actually really excited for the Aces. I think
Candace Parker left them in good stead. I am totally
not concerned whatsoever, and I really do see them winning
a three feet I think it's very matter of fact,
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it's beyond possible in mind, and.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I love I also to add to your point really quick, Chris,
I also think I love that the Aces have said,
we know that Candace spent more years with other teams
than she did here, but we still honor her and
put her in one of the Aces.
Speaker 6 (42:23):
Is great.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
You know how, no matter how far back in the
pipeline of that franchise history you go, they are still
placing her as an alum of that organization, which they are.
She's a championship player of that organization. And I love
the respect. Everybody doesn't get that respect, and everybody don't
deserve it, but Candice Parker absolutely does.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, talk about it, talk about it all day long.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
We know what also going to talk about is how
great the WNBA, or how great of a position the
WNBA is in right now when it comes to this
end Flunks influx of new talent with Kaylyn Clark, Andinguri
stive Lecardos so Rakia Jackson, Kim Brigg list goes on
and on, and of course CBA deal.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Is about to come up, so there's very important.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Discusses to be had. I feel like we're headed in
the right direction, right Serick.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
I couldn't be I couldn't be more excited. And that's
really all I'm going to say. I think, you know,
in the past, I've had complaints, to be honest with you,
about the WNBA. I feel like there was a lot
of talent that had to be shipped overseas simply because
roster spots just weren't available, and it is a prevailing issue.
But I do think with the level of ability that
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this new rookie class has and how they're going to
be able to have cohesion with who's already there, I
just I'm probably most excited about this WNBA season since
arguably to Houston comments back in the day. I mean,
that's how that's how much I'm looking forward to it,
and I don't And people might argue with you played
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the game, what do you mean not looking forward? I
mean like an excitement, like I can't wait. I haven't
felt like that in a very long time. When it
comes to the WNBA. You know, you watch it because
you're a former player and you're you know, you've coached
high school kids, you're a basketball player, so you want
to be engross in the game in some way. But
that excitement, Yeah, I haven't felt that in a long time.
So I feel really good about it. And you know,
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seeing different updates on Okitlin Clark is having an incredible
training camp and looking at some of the things that
Andrew Rees and Camilla Cardoso are doing on their end,
this is going to be a special not just a
special year, but we're talking about a special span of
time that we're ushering into a new level and a
new season just in general when it comes to WNBA specifically,
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and that has been something that I think a lot
of us who love this game on the women's side
have been waiting for. So I could not I could
not be more excited. I have no apprehension of it,
and I think it's gonna be more competitive too. You know,
you'll have teams that are that are going to do well,
like the Aces as we just mentioned, but I think
there are going to be some teams that are going
to kind of come into the fold that even other
people may not have been expecting to really be where
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they are, and so the competitive competitiveness of the league
is also something that I'm really really excited about. It's
gonna be a it's gonna be a really great time.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Well, you know, I'm sure you touched heavily on the
w's transition, but I don't typically do this, but we
kind of have to show a little bit of love
to the NBA's transition. Come on, now, I know, right,
I'm usually nothing. I'm usually not the one to Lina
love like this, but I'm at our jump ball segment.
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We'll be right back to talk a little bit more
about why we need to show the NBA a little
bit more love.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
In their transition to team.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
You know, I am actually looking forward to a lot
of these second round, third round matchups, and that surprises
me as it relates to the NBA playoffs because there's
no Kevin Durant, there is no Lebron James, there is
no Steph Curry. These names that we have associated with
being deep playoff run players are not there. And last
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night on Twitter, I had a long conversation with several
people and it was a great dialogue about how the
NBA is in good hands, and there's this new era
of NBA basketball that we're seeing. And there were some
who were like, yeah, you know, they are washed up
and it's good to see new people. And then there
were others who were like, well, I don't think they
washed up at all. I love this new era of
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NBA basketball that we're seeing. And for me, it's not
necessarily because I think that Kevin Duran or Steph or Lebron,
as we've talked about at length, is washed up. I
don't think any of those players are washed up. They
could still very much be contributors. I love the fact
that these new stars have e merged to the point
that we don't need Lebron and Steph and KD to
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be the focal point for us to enjoy the p
that we're seeing on the floor. I am excited to
watch Tyrese Maxie, I am excited to watch Jamal Murray.
Speaker 6 (47:06):
I think SGA needs to be the MVP.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
So I say all this to say that the way
that this NBA youth movement has really taken over and
kept us as fans entertained has.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
Really been great to see.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
I don't know that I saw this happening this quickly,
because it feels like it's happened rather quickly.
Speaker 6 (47:29):
But I love what I'm seeing.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
What do you feel about the new change, changing of
the guard or changing of the tide, shall we say,
Chris as it relates to these new stars in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
I'm ecstatic because this is how the game is supposed
to evolve and growth.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
You have the legends who did their damage in their heyday,
and there come a time when young Buck says, look
getting a little older. I know you still canvolve, but
we coming for that crown. Were coming for that spot.
Like that competitiveness, that fire the fearful, especially with Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Oh my goodness, so give it to me, y'all SGA
superstar Jamal Murray, a guy who hasn't been an All
Star team right, but plays like an All Star, first
team All Yeah, first Team All NBA. When it comes
to the playoffs, you got Tyrese Halliburn, Tyree MAXI.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I think the issue, or one concern I have, is
whether the NBA and the media ecosystem is ready to
put a spotlight on these young guys to make sure
they turn into these global ambassadors and superstars just beyond
the court, but often as well, where Anthony Edwards can
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be the face.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
So that's my only concern.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
But on the court, oh yeah, bring it like these
new guys are coming and they ain't scared of nobody.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
I think it's important to talk about exposure. We can't
have this conversation without denying how intricate and how important
social media has been in things like NBA League Pass
and we are beat over the head in the best
way with replays and different creative videos. And I think
that when people are introduced, reintroduced and able to ruminate
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over greatness no matter who it's coming from, their loyalty
no longer absolves the reality that's happening. And so I
think we have fans that are more savvy. They're loyal,
They're always going to love the kds, They're always gonna
love the Lebrons, but they have no choice but to
accept the new reality and the excitement around these young players.
So I think that social media has played a huge
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role in changing the tides. And all these other smaller
blog sites that just all they do all day is
push out greatness. They just I don't care if you're
not looking for it. Here's this person, here's this person.
So the exposure to the game I think is ramped
up and has changed. And it's said, and hey, if
you love basketball period, there's no way you're going to
be in denial about what we're seeing right now with
this new generation. So I'm excited and I think too,
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that's going to force to your point, Chris, that's going
to force the Adam Silvers to say, you know what,
I don't. I don't really have a choice but to
put these guys out front, because now this is what
people expect to see, This what they want to see.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Yeah, you know what I will say, is this to
close us out if I have to see that.
Speaker 6 (50:20):
What a pro wants? What a pro needs? Commercial? Woman,
When I.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Tell you fifty times a day, literally nobody else want commercial.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Then they got one now about the pony and you
can hear them playing genuine pony in the background.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
I don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.
Speaker 6 (50:39):
Exposure.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
It's just the point of exposure that I agree that
exposure helps, And boy, I bet not I don't want
to see what a pro wants.
Speaker 6 (50:48):
Now. Christina Aguilera can't even get no.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Loves so coordinated, so so cute, Dad corny, corny and
cute and oh my nerves. Guys, it has been fun
as usual hanging out with y'all at the pod.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
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Speaker 6 (51:33):
Stars, you're a hater, period because we're the period. But
this is gonna do it for us today. I'm your girl,
Tarrika Foster, Brasbi Chris Charie. We're out, y'all
Yo yo, What is good? Everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to another episode of the three on three Pod.
I'm Chris Williamson, one of your hosts, joined by Tarika
Foster Brasby and Scharino Cole and y'all, the NBA playoffs
have delivered. We got so much entertainment. What y'all feeling
right now? Before we actually dive into the heart of things.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
To Rika, I'm feeling like I should say I told
you so, and we'll talk about why later in the show,
but we know we told you so.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You got anything to add, Teria, You're just gonna be giggling.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Feeling so good. I'm feeling so good. Shout out to
the Denver Nuggets. And yeah, all the people that have
been trolling me because of my comments about Lebron James
have a great off season. I wish you all the
best and uh yeah, I have more thoughts as well.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
But I'm feeling really good.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, we can see your your your smile is uh infectious, right,
infected all of us. Now here's the thing, though, at
least the Lakers didn't get swept like last year.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
That's progress. Did you just four last year? This year
Game four, they come out.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And they don't blow that double digit le Nuggets look right,
they you know, took their foot off the gas, so
they lose in five.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And I'm not I'm Chris, I'm not being I'm being.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
This is how we're qualifying, quantifying success for the Lendo.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
They're a good old consolation prize.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They did not get.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Swept the.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Bar. That's how.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's how low the bar is Scherie, don't cop a
me like that, Like, no, it was not impressive whatsoever,
especially after they made the Western Conference Finals last year.
I'm just saying it because there's so many storylines that
you can poke fun at with the Lakers, for the
fact that Jamal Murray snatching their soul not once but
(02:08):
twice in this series with game winners won a buzzer
beater doing.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It on an injured calf.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Like Nuggets, they haven't even played their best basketball and
they only they won in five, and I feel like
they have so much more to give. But when it
comes to the Lakers love you lost eleven in a
row against Nuggets at one point, and then you lose
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twelve of the last thirteen. Darvin Ham is an individual
who does not see awareness or any type of accountability
for himself, like it's all about well, yeah, if it's
pretty you know, people talk about rotations, but it's pretty hard,
you know, to have success when one of your players,
(02:57):
What are your players playing like shit for ten straight games?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Like yeah, health as well, what you had?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh my god, for a team that had Lebraun and
eighty playing the most of this most of the year,
and then their cores like Ruy, Austin Reeves, Danzel Russell,
Torian Prince and I know Torri and we'll get into
Torrian later. You can't be making you cannot place the
blame on health, like I know Jared Vanderbilt was injured
(03:24):
and he's one of your better defenders, Christian Wood, but
please have some respect for yourself and look in the mirror.
Darvin Ham talking about, yeah, if we had the health,
it would be better. No, if you call the time out,
If you call the time out anytime before Denver went
up seventy four to seventy one, after you're up sixty
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nine to sixty, maybe you're in a different position here.
Maybe we're talking about the series extendent, but now you
want to keep your hands in your pockets.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
But I'm done because I've had it.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I feel like you got.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Ham and the Lakers his rotations, and I can consistently
deflex and rarely takes accountability. So now I'm gonna let
Seri go off because I know she's been sitting. Both
of y'all have for that matter, sitting this itching to
get her shit off enough.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
You talk about not taking accountability, and I said last
week you bleed from the head. Guess who else isn't
taking accountability Lebron James from the refs to the same
conversation about injuries. We don't want to hear it. You
weren't the better team period. Denver came out the last game,
played horribly in the first half, arguably, and you still
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how do you go into halftime? How do you lead
most of the series, most of the minutes of the series,
you were in the lead, and you blow games that
will stopping with the excuses, the tantrums continued.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I'm just tired of the excuses.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I need Lebron James and company to say, you know what,
we just weren't the best team. You can't say all
these things about injuries when you have Joel and beat
over here with a bum knee and Bell's palsy, still
putting up MVP type numbers.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I simply don't want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Sorry, I wish you well, go fishing, do whatever you
need to do, but we don't want to hear excuses
Jamal Murray walking around. You mentioned this calf, he's injury two,
he's dunking on Lebron James hidden game winners. So your
excuses don't match up when there's other teams and other
players that are fighting through those same excuses and winning
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basketball games. I don't know why they're living in this
alternate reality because nobody's buying it. And mind you, it's
okay if you're not the best. We all can recognize
that there's a changing of the guard that's happening. I'm
sure we'll talk about that later, so I won't get
into it.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
But the reality is.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Lebron James, you're almost forty, you're a human being.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
The reality is Anthony Davis. I loved what he did.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
This series in terms of his consistency, But again, I
just knew it was gonna happen. Y'all to the locker
room with a little boo boo, because it's gonna happen
every single time you let the same player hit two
game winners in the same series on you and you
want to talk about, Oh, we.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Don't really we didn't really know what type of team.
We were all sees because of the injuries.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I thought it was your team, Lebron, you set the tone,
That's what I thought. So this is the most confused
team I've seen in quite some time. And for Darvin
Ham to talk so bananas goodbye, I hope he's already
figured out where he's going to live because it's not
gonna be Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So I think I'm gonna be the person here sitting
on this Supreme Basketball Court Council with a dissenting opinion
because because I believe that Lebron James in ways did
set the tone. I think the problem is it wasn't
enough and it's never gonna be enough. It's just it's
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never gonna be enough. Let's just think about it rationally.
Jamal Murray, you got thirty two points despite a strained cast. Joki,
he dropped twenty five and twenty despite giving up the
ball seven times. Michael Porter Junior, who gets in his
own way half the time, still scored thirty six. As
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you mentioned, Denver trailed majority of the game and majority
of the minutes in the series, and they also, as
you mentioned, had to deal with their fair share of injuries,
but shooting, slums, miscommunications on defense, they did not play
their basketball, and through it all, with Braun giving you
thirty and eleven, Denver still found a way to win.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
So, to me, this was.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
More about Denver's resiliency and really more about how good
of a team they are than how ridiculously unprepared and
just not sufficient LA is. Because Shari and I both
said last episode this was a rap for LA, Like
we knew after game too when Jamal Murray hit the
first game winner that it was a rep for LA.
(08:05):
We said, as a matter of fact, I knew it
was a wrapped in. I actually said on last show
that I would give the Lakers the respect of not
saying that they would be swept in four games, which
they did not. But I knew the Lakers ain't had
no chance of winning this series. That's why I want
even tripping. So to me, this wasn't even about the
Lakers no more, this was about Denver. I wanted to
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see how Denver would respond, And quite honestly, they didn't
start off this game responding well in this matchup. They
didn't start off this game looking as if they were
the reigning champions, but they found a way to win
despite the stuff that was happening around them. That's what
champions do. That's why I'm excited. So I don't think
that Bron didn't necessarily set the tone for his performance.
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But what I will say is that it's not enough
and it's not going to be enough anymore, and LA
ain't figured out how to make it enough. You can't
ask Bron to give you forty minutes all season long
and then ask Bron to give you another forty minutes
throughout the playoffs by himself.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Dangelo Russell, where were you?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (09:08):
I can't find you.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Anthony Davis seventeen and fifteen is great for someone like
I don't know, Austin Reeves. That would be amazing for you.
It's not enough, not enough.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
To tell you.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The best ability is availability, And we never know about
Anthony Davis availability from game to game because it just
is what it is, right, We're so used to it.
It is not enough. Again, that's no shape on talent
that's no shade on anything or anyone, But it's just
the fact you could have got Broun in twenty two
thousand and four, that bron could carry a team twenty
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twenty four, Brons not carrying a team by himself. It's
just not enough. And I don't know if the Lakers
are ever going to present enough, especially if they're talking
about drafting Bronni to make sure that Lebron stays.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
You're willing to risk I.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Think someone who could really help your franchise to draft
Ronnie so that he could play with Brin And I
get it. At the end of the day, bron is
gonna bring you bread. He's gonna bring people to the seats,
He's gonna sell tickets. You're gonna make the bread. But
you can know what you're gonna be in.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
The same position you are right now.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Or worse right It could be worse or worse.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So yeah, like this wasn't even about La to me,
La was a rap last week. This was this was
about Denver, and Denver responded it well. And I cannot
wait to see them up against Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh that that is going to be a blood bat.
Anthony Edwards, you know he's coming for blood. He's a superstar.
He's a rived, right going at Kad you got Yo
Kich and Murray. I was that one on one match
between Murray and Anthony Edward.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
That's gonna be special.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
But here, here's the thing that I'm really still stuck
on is how Torrian Prince at the postgame pressure with
Jared Vanderbilt started laughing at some feedback that was coming
from the microphone I guess was on the zoom or whatever.
And Jared Vanderbilt was in no mood to laugh and to.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And then.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Torri and cees Jared not laughing.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
He's like, oh, I guess I shouldn't be laughing, and
Jared Vanderbilt gives him like the death there, like, motherfucker,
can you read the rooms?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
He lost in five games? You over here laughing.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Sometimes to keep from crying.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yes, that check was still clearing. The jeck was the
check was still clear for my mandatorium prints. But yeah,
it's it's crazy, the whole the whole roster construction, just
some of the excuses that they made.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
But three kus Pin, Yeah, it was more about Denver.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I know the Lakers gave away the game in a
lot of ways, but particularly at the free throw line.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
You can't do that. Like, if they hit like half
of the free throws, they probably win.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But it's just a team that they have a ceiling
that is not going to ever be better than the
Nuggets as currently constructed. It's not it and the help
doesn't help as well. But there are some very uncomfortable
decisions that Lebron James and the Lakers are going to
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have to make next season because Lebron has a player
option for fifty one million, and he can become an
unrestricted free agent, test the waters, go wherever he once,
you know, use his leverage, maybe with Bronni staying in
the draft so we know he's not going back to
college and fear.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I pray for that man seriously.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Because of what's about to come his way. But Tarika,
what do you think Lebron should do? Should he be like, yo, dude,
because I gave y'all ship. I don't care if it
was in the bubble, now that that championship was earned,
so y'all should be grateful that I came here.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
He gave him AI this year, y'all don't remember they
hung a medal in December.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
They hung a man are in December, and we all
said it was a fool.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
They got a trip, they got a should.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Take that down, They should take that down.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I don't know what you're talking about. Lebron has done
his job in LA.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
He gave them a banner to hang twice, one in
the bubble and one for the end season tournament.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Yo, stop this, Terrika, stop it. Stop it right now.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
The petty, the levels of petty, I'm not I can't
even perceive them at this point.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
You are beyond right now as.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Far as i'm the cern, Bron, you did your job.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Bron.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
You are a winner. Number one. You got the rings,
you got the chips.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Number two, you are a well versed business man. You
don't need to play basketball no more to continue to
be successful.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
You got movie deals, you got companies, you got liquor,
you got any and everything.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
You just sat on the podium last night, Auntil talked
about how your other son is looking at playing basketball
and college and stuff. You got your baby girl playing volleyball.
Savannah out here being an awesome black woman.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Correct, go home, just go home, just for real. You
ain't got nothing else to prove to nobody. Just go home.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Because the Lakers is not gonna give you what you deserve,
and Bronnie damn showing what your team deserve.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
So go home.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It's cool, ain't nobody mad get your lunch pail, clock
out and.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Be like, I'm out, doces.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
But I mean, of course, I'm sure they'll coerce him
to stay.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I'm sure he'll pick up his option.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I'm sure they will pay him just like they did Kobe.
I'm pretty sure they will allow Brownie to come and
just give him his dreams so he can have his
farewell tour and everyone can. I mean, it's deserved. Won't
act like it ain't deserved, your farewell tour and all
of that stuff. So I'm sure I'm sure he'll.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Do all of that. But if it were me, I'm
pulling the canvas park.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'm out, boom boom out.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
His ego is too big to do that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Sadly, he's too big of a baby at times to
allow himself to just bow out gracefully. He needs a
whole parade. They will do an entire rollout. It will
be the biggest farewell tour you've ever seen. I do agree, Terika,
that Brianni will be involved. In that in some way,
shape or form, which I think again is very short
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sighted by the Lakers. I get it, but it's just
a very short sighted business decision that I think ultimately
is going to put them in the rear for a
long time. I think he needs to sit down as well.
I think, you know, you're gonna play in the Olympics
this summer. You have a good opportunity at winning a
gold medal. So here you go again, getting another medal
under your belt again. I think Lebron James just has
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a perpetual chip on his shoulder that's never going to
go away. And my concern for him is that with
that said, he's going to wear out his welcome and
we're seeing that already happening. It's not that people don't
want to see how great he is, but you know,
I think a part of him enjoys the whole conversation around.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
He's almost forty and look at what he just did,
and you know he has to have.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Some level of of of of engine behind his back
in that way from the fans and from the commentators.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
I think he needs that.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
And you know, my whole thing is I don't want
I don't want to see him get hurt either. You know,
we saw you know what happened with Kobe and other
players that just kind of they just played too long.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
But yes, he's going to have an entire ordeal.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I joke around a lot about Lebron and I obviously
I'm not a Laker fan, but Treica said it best.
You've done everything possible to cement yourself on atop the
Mount rushmore of the greatest basketball players of all time. Sadly,
Lebron James, there are a lot of people who will
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never reference you as the goat. I don't care if
you play ten more years. So I think once he's
at peace with that and totally okay with everything he's accomplished,
he will leave. I think he's still caught up in
a unanimous global decision from all of us that he's
the greatest ever play the game.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
But I wish him and Briannie and Bright's the best
in Savannah and their beautiful daughter. But go go enjoy
your family. You got the shop, you got the new
podcast with JJ Reddick.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I know you're a billionaire.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
You can do whatever you want to do, and I
think it would be it would be wise of him
to show young people an example of you know what,
this is what happens when you give your you give
your best to a game, and you can smoothly transition
out of it and you set yourself up to be
successful in so many other aspects of life.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
You don't have to ride it to the wheels fall off.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
And I think he's dangerous, dangerously close to doing that,
and that's my concern for him. But you know, he
did everything he could, as as you guys both mentioned,
because there's nothing else he can do.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It really is.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, well you see what happened, and he lost his
whole family. But I won't even going to that.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
See what I'm saying, Like for real, that's what I'm saying.
That's and that's the point.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
That's the point, Like, don't get to the point where
the game overtakes your reality. Like you've done what you
needed to do, move on, be more of a pay Manning.
Pey Manning was the was the guy who went out
on a Super Bowl run. He went out as a champion. Now, granted,
there were moments in that season where you'd be like, hey,
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you ain't looking characteristically like yourself. But at the end
of the day, people have a recency bias, and what
they remember is the Broncos stomping the Panthers and you
moving on to the next phase of your career as
a champion. Unfortunately, that might not be the ending for
Lebron as being a champion, but we can still see
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you go out as a forty year old who gave
everything to the game and left like at the top
of his game.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Left left, left it.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Not because I could not play anymore, not because I
was injured, not because you know what I'm saying. I
was resorted to to twelve points a game, like you
still averaging twenty six.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Point like, bro, like that is great. It ain't Lebron high.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But seriously, Bradley Beal wished he was still with averaging twenty.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
So don't get me started on him. Don't get me
started on please, don't please, don't do that.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
That's where we are.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Let's get started off, can we, Chris answer yeah, because
we need.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
To get started on them.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
We ain't get start in the sun. Man. We just
talking about way too much by the Laker's sons. Don't
deserve our time on this.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
They do. Oh you can't do to them. Don't catch
this smoke. Bill was gonna catch this smoke today.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Chris, because oh well look, look, Bradley Bell did not
show up in the biggest game of his life today, right,
or one of the biggest game in life. Says I'll
be damn if I get swept and he goes out
with nine points.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
He didn't show up a period.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Hey, the sons have some issues, Like Katie got what
he wanted. Third star Chris Paul looking a whole lot
more valuable, right because of that floor general, absolutely true
point guard and we saw I mean these every where
Kadi goes.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Now it's something else, the.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Curse of the Big Three. As we've discussed, let's limit
let's eliminate that entire ideal. When it comes to Kevin Durant.
It doesn't work with him, and it will not work.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I want y'all to know what this man said, Suari, like,
I've never been more frustrated with a team than I
am with a team that's not mine, y'all. I ain't
never been more frustrated with a team that's not mine. Okay,
this man, Bradley Beal said, I mean in retelsprit and
I'm quoting this, y'all. I mean in retrospect, we won
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forty nine games. That's a lot of games, and I
missed what thirty games roughly, that's a lot of games.
I'm not saying we'd have won every game if I'd play,
but we would be in a totally different position if
I'm healthy the whole year, if everybody's healthy the whole year.
End quote, Bradley, shut the hell up. Just shut the
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hell up, because we know you want healthy when you
came there. You want a healthy when you got there, sir?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And even then, if you had Booker, Bills and Durant
playing exactly half the season together, which they did, had
they stayed healthy, they probably could have won around fifty
two games. You probably could have been what fourth in
the West?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Maybe? But what the hell do I have to do
with right now?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Because y'all were healthy enough to share the floor against
Minnesota and you underperformed.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Y'all have the worst.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Plus minus of any trio in the postseason. Bradley built
out her averaging sixteen and a half points in the playoffs.
And then you have the audacity to write a check
that your ass k Cash talking about y'all ain't gonna
get swept by dude. Your ass got swept like you
got swept. My good what are we doing? And Matt
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Is should be a god bless your soul because I
bet you are a nice person, family man doing all
this wonderful course, I believe it. I bet you're a
nice guy. But you know what you are not right now.
You're not a good owner, You're not a good executive.
You need some assistance because I don't know what the
hell y'all thought y'all were doing in Phoenix, And this
is what really killed me.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Chris Haynes went on another show.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Much Respected went on another show and mentioned that Frank
Vogo was saying that he was desperately trying to get
a point guard and they wouldn't give him one.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Oh you mean like the point guard?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Y'all?
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Let go that olden statement.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Done.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I'm done. I'm done, and I'm gonna let it go.
I really am.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
But I'm just so disappointed because I feel part a
part of me has a soft spot for Devin Booker,
because Devin Booker's from me, you know what I mean,
And a part of me is like I want to
I want to see another Michigan or be successful. The
other part of me is like, this is what y'all
get for continuing to drive this narrative that you need
specific play and that that these players that look good
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in the media shoots, and that these players that look
good on cam on paper and look good on camera
are going to perform well. If you do not have continuity,
if you do not have chemistry, if you do not
have the ability to have availability, this is what you get.
I really hope Phoenix serves as a freaking reminder to
all the executives moving forward to cut.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
This Big three shit out.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Just get players who play and play well and make
it happen. Stars can become stars if they're good enough.
You don't have to pair them with other people just
for name value to say that you have stars on
your team. And if you don't believe me, Oklahoma City
is the example.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yes, they're forfeiting the fundamentals. They're forfeiting fundamentals, and I
don't That's the thing is like, isn't this pro basketball? Yeah,
we're getting swept up in the minutia of someone's stock.
It's fascinating to me, Like, first of all, Phoenix. You
have absolutely no excuse. I am completely disgusted as Tarika,
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and I'm sure Chris is as well. But why are
we assembling? We don't care about the fundamentals of basketball.
You put a team together knowing you don't have a
floor general. We all know that Katie is not the
most vocal of leaders anyway, That's not what you're gonna
get from him. You'll get a certain level of output.
So if you don't have a floor general, somebody who's
more outspoken, who can rilly the troops in conjunction with
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what you know he's going to give you, you have
failed from the onset. Yeah, so I'm just at a loss,
a lost with a T when I'm so confused. I'm
at a loss with a T about how they even
constructed this team and for this to be NBA Pro basketball.
It is a sham. It is an example, but is
also a complete embarrassment period.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I have no argument with that whatsoever. And it seems
like Frank Vogel getting embarrassed as well. We saw an
Letick article where he was yelling at the team to
get more out of him at one point, and they
didn't see it as being authentic and one person, one
player even laughed at him.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
So that tells you. And I like Frank Vogel, and.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I don't think he's going to get the proper respect
he gets because of the proper love he deserves, just
because of what's going on with the son's roster. But yeah,
they got a lot of things to figure out, and
we're still, or at least I'm still trying to figure
out how it is that Candas Parker is no longer
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playing in the WNBA. Like she really had the nerve.
And I'll say this with all good tends, she really
had the nerve to retire the day that training camp started, and.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I just I couldn't. I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I thought it was a joke because Candas Parker, I've
been watching her play basketball since the McDonald's All American Game.
Like we all knew or a lot of us knew
about this unicorn at the time with the way she played,
where she was able to play all five positions, and
she ends up being a three time WNBA champ, two
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time Olympic gold medalists, should have.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Been three geno, that's on you.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
The woman was the first and only rookie ever to
win Rookie of the Year in WNBA MVP in the.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Same damn year. And my only issue is that, given
her resume, like both domestically and overseas, that the mainstream
media did not give her her proper flowers when she
was playing. They did not highlight her enough to showcase
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how important she was to the game of basketball. And
that's with all the injuries she had, right, imagine if
she didn't suffer all these injuries, guys, you could have
had a couple more chips.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Yeah, and if she.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Didn't have Derek Fisher as a coach, lord knows what
the Skylman was. But we don't going to get into
that too much.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
And Shari, I know you have a personal connection given
where you're from and just how important she was to
you as well.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Yeah, what's crazy is we're the same age. I'll be
thirty eight years old in a couple months, and I
can't imagine still playing at a high level or really
at all in this thirty seven three fourths of years
old of a body. So first of all, just the
fact that she was able to last as long through
injuries and moving around with teams and different things, like
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that and not officely playing a lot of minutes as well.
Even from you know, high school all the way up
through is beyond commendable.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
That's number one.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
We are both from the same city essentially, you know,
Candics went to Naperville Central.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
I believe I have that correct. I want to throw
out with high school.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
We were both top players in are in the state
at the same time. Both of our teams were ranked
in the top twenty in the state at the same time.
She also she always felt to me like a distant rival.
I said that on Instagram the other day because we
only we never competed against each other on our high
school teams. I think I played against Candace one time
when we played in AAU. I think I might have
been a freshman or a sophomore in high school. But
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there was always this air of even though you're competitive, right,
you never want to own the fact when you're a
teenager that someone's better than you. You just you're in
your bag. You just never want to sit with that reality.
But the reality is she was yards ahead of pretty
much all of us, and for me being able to
see her ascension, being able to see her dominate at
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the high school level and then carry that right into
college again that is a big deal, and then again
from college all the way into the WNBA.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
So it's funny.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I met Candace formerly as adults a couple of years
ago at the Final four, and I said, up with
to Thornwood, I said, we never played against each other,
but we were always on the same list. There was
her name at the top. I was in there somewhere
as well, So it was good to finally kind of
have that conversation with her. But I can't stress enough
for anybody that's ever doubted how incredible of a feat
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it was for her to have the level of dominance
she had in the WNBA even in college. It's so
hard to play at this at a high level, even
from high school, college, whatever. It's very very difficult that
your body, especially as a woman, goes through so many
different changes. This woman has had a child, you know,
she's been through a lot of different things. And then
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for her to then balance the broadcast side of her
brand as she continued to move up the ranks and
still play, there is so much to be said about that.
And even in recent years we've seen her be even
more intent on Hey, I'm a mom, you know, I'm
a mom to you know, I got to you know,
her son when I saw her in twenty twenty two,
her son was he was still little, you know, and
now you have another child on the way.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Like, there's other priorities.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
So we talk about Lebron James and thinking about his priority.
She's in the same boat. I appreciate the fact that
she was mature enough to say I've given it all
I have and I have such a full life on
the other end of this, I can walk away with
this without.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
The pomping circumstance.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
And to be honest, I'm not shocked by her retirement.
I mean, we saw last year, you know, hampered by
another injury. You don't recover. Guys, come on, we almost forty.
Your body doesn't bounce back the same when you.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Have an injury, unless you Diana Tarrossia.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Let me tell y'all the story.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I was playing against high school kids three years ago,
and it was a cute little game coaches against players.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
That was dumb of me.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
When I tell y'all, I was, I was, I had
just scored, I was feeling myself, and I was retreating
and running backwards. No one was around me and I
rolled my ankle, asked me how long my ankle was hurt.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
I'm not asking me how long my ankle was hurting
for three months. So I need us to understand the
humanness involved in somebody making a decision to continue to
play at this age.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Job well doneis Parker. You've been an example for me
since I was an eighth grader, even if it was
just chasing the level of greatness that you always exemplified.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
So I am very happy for her. This should also
be a call out.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
As we move forward, as we talk about this incredible
rookie class that's entering into WNBA. They didn't do it
for Candace, and they didn't even do it for Maya.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Do it for these young ladies. Do it for the
age of Wilson's.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Do it for everybody else that's in the league that
is continued to sow the seeds and be great.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Do it for the Diana Tarasis.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
And I think it's an honor for us to be
able to do that for Candace right now, to say
thank you, to say job well done, like our platforms matter,
and I'm glad that we're able to do that. So
it's crazy to think about, but man, what a run
she has made. And I hope that she has a
level of happiness that she's never ever experienced in her
life on the hardwood as she, you know, moves away
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from it.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah three, And I don't really have much to add
after that, because you really summed it up beautifully. I
just want to continue to commend her. I had an
opportunity to kind of kick it. I don't want to
say with her, like we best friends or anything like that,
but I did get a chance to cover her intensely,
especially when she was in Chicago. Was literally on the
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court when she won her championship in Chicago.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Got a chance to cover.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Her again in Las Vegas, had an opportunity to have
dinner with her and some friends. Just we've just been
in the same space, around the same people at the
same time, so we've been able to interact in that way.
And every time I've had an opportunity to interact with Candace,
it's like, I can see why people love you, I
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can see why people gravitate to you. I can see
this powerhouse of a person that had nothing to do
with basketball, and I think that's what I admire most
that our interactions, for the most part, have not been
on a basketball court. It's you and your element with
your friends around your people, and you've just been able
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to sow seeds within those circles, and that has just
been tremendous. Candace has transcended generations. Has real Like literally,
you were a kid and you said, gosh, I want
to be Candas Parker. And now here we are thirty
plus years old, almost forty. For me and honey, I
show can't do nothing the way Candas Parker. Anybody else
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can't listen. We are all Greek on this call. I
go to a party and I strolled the next day.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I'm like, damn, where's the where's the baths?
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Needs? Like, what were you doing in the party last night?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Child?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's crazy, But she transcended generations, and I think that
is what really adds to her legacy is that no
matter what era of basketball you began in this sport,
when she hit the scene, you hear players now I
admire Candace Parker. You hear players like Asia Wilson's who
were her team, that say Candas Parker was my favorite player,
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and now I got to play beside her like, that's
the kind of transcendence that you rarely see. We throw
around the word generational talent so much that it really
starts to lose its value. But Candas Parker was a
generational talent, Like we will never see another Candas Parker,
and that's okay, Like it really is okay. Like that
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that value, that worthiness, that transcendence is something that we
get to admire in the first ballot Hall of Famer
for sure. So thank you, Candace for everything that you
gave us on the court and for everything that you
will continue to give us as a woman, as a mom,
as a broadcaster, as an entrepreneur, as anything that you
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want to see a young woman or young man grow
up and inspire to be.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Kndas Parker exudes.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
That, hey man, canis Parker To your point too, Rika
was probably more more exceptional as a p right or
as a person, and how she gave back and look
after the youngins like Kalia Copper, the Diamondus shields so
many Asia Wilson giving them mentorship and it's spread throughout
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the league, right, And so that's what really resonates with
me is the way she could have been selfish is
worried about her own stats, her own business. But no,
she said, Look, I'm in a position with a lot
of influence to impact people on and off the court,
and I'll make sure I take the necessary people under
my wing so that they know how to lead in
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this league and they know how to conduct themselves and
build not just on the court as a player, but
also off it. So yeah, Canis Parker, We are forever
grateful to you, We are indebted to you for all
you've done, and we really don't deserve you based on
the way people have diminished your legacy.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
And Jerique, I don't know if it was you, but
somebody said.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, I'm glad she didn't go out with a farewell
to er because she didn't want that fake love.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Right, Yeah, she didn't want that fake She didn't want
that fake love.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
She's already been named most overrated or was named most
overrated and athletic pull a.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Few years back.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
So yeah, I'm doing on my time the way I
want to and that's it.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So salute to her.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, before before we segue, I can I hit on
Tarika's point about the generational talent really quickly? Yeah, I
think where I think one point that we missed is
when Candice Parker was coming up through the rings, we
didn't see post players playing like guards. She is really
the first example that I remember seeing in real time
of a post player playing like a guard, and I
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think she set the tone for what we're seeing even now,
years later, and I think there's something to be said
about that. So when we talk about a generational talent
and how she shaped the game, she's she literally reshaped
how we view fours and fives on the floor for real.
There's something major to be said and celebrated about that.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, I want to, I say off the time, like
I swear to God, me and I feel like me
and Sharid be like in the same brain or something.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Because we have.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But I have said for years and still say that
when I think of the point forward, the two people
who come to my mind instantly is Kandae Parker in
Green Hill. Those are the first two I ever seen
to do it, like ever seem to do it. And
so yes, like you look at the post player position
now and you can put them anywhere in terms of
facilitation Candae Parker.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
No one in the w was doing that, No, not
even close.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Nobody was doing it.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
No one in high school, no one in college, no one, y'all,
there was nobody.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
We were there.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
There would be games, there would be you know, when
you trap played for a travel team, everybody, all the
great teams are playing in the same gym, and there
would be times when we would just be watching, like.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
How was she out here? How would you know?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Because coming up, you know during my time, you're a
post player. You're supposed to be on the block. What
are you doing out on the wing at all? You
should not be up there? Free throw line extended, if
it's not a high low, get on the block and
do what you need to do. So we were just
in awe of the way that she was able to
handle the ball, facilitate plays, and shoot from the outside
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as essentially a post player.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
It was so unheard of.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
I just wish that, or I desire that as we
celebrate her, as other outlets celebrate her, that they really
stick to that point. Because when you talk about somebody
revolutionizing and re calibrating the game of basket of women's basketball,
Candice Parker is up there with Mayamore.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
They're up there together, And I think that's an important
point to note.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Now one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I can't say enough great things about Cannis Parker, and
Becky Hmmon spoke on that as well, like she kind
of created this whole positionless basketball When she came around,
nobody had ever seen her right, and the fact that
she lived up to the hype is remarkable because not
everybody does when you have that.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Spotlight on you.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
But quickly, what do you guys think the Aces are
going to need to do when it comes to replacing
Candas Parker.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
You can't replace a Hall of.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Famer like that, but filling in the gaps to kind
of make sure the post area outside of Asia Wilson
is going to be strong, not just offensively but also defensively.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Tarrika.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
So I know this is going to sound crazy the
way that I'm going to say it, but allow me
to explain for two seconds. The Aces were fine before Candace.
The Aces will be fine without Candas. And what I
mean by that is simply Candace had already come to
a championship team. Now, she ain't a Kevin Durant, she
wasn't chasing the title. She clearly explained why she was
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where she was.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
It was closer to family.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
It gave her an opportunity to not necessarily be in
the spotlight. She could be a player that could just
really lend her leadership and her veteran presence unless being
needed to carry the team and to be the championship
player that people wanted her to be or that she
had to be in Chicago and in LA. So this
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is Asia's team, always was Asia team will always be
Asia's team as long as Asia Wilson is in an
Aces uniform. So the Aces will be fine. I know
they picked up Liz Kitley in a draft. She's more
than likely gonna sit a year because she's battling back
from an ACL injury.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
They the Aces will be fine.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Their chances at a three P did not diminish because
Kandas Parker is no longer gonna be playing on the team.
They will be fine. So I don't feel like there
is any drop off whatsoever. They didn't have Candace in
the postseason because she was ndered, and what did it
What did it mean?
Speaker 6 (40:43):
What did it matter?
Speaker 3 (40:44):
They had people to step up and to play position.
I mean, my god, Kia Stokes was like, yo, I
got this. I'm good, I'm straight. So the Aces will
be fine.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
I agree, and I'll venture to say they'll be better.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
And this is why to Tarika's they had a passing
of a baton that a lot of teams don't get.
So again, you get that leadership component, you get someone
like Candas Parker who's able to lead at Asia Wilson
and some of these young bucks and get them to
understand what it takes to be a champion. And then
the other end, like Terika mentioned, she with injuries come
inconsistencies when it comes to being on the basketball court.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
So a lot of people had to step up anyway.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
So now you have this core of players that are
even mentally tougher, They're stronger, they understand their level of value.
They'll probably be more consistent. Adria Wilson's only going to
get better and better. Her leadership skills are going to
be through the roof. And again, when you lose a
player like Candas Parker, there's something about it. I would imagine,
even with the core that are there that says, yo,
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now we really got something to prove, and Yo, we're
grateful that she was here. Let's honor her. Let's have
a three peet to honor everything that she gave. This organization.
So I'm actually really excited for the Aces. I think
Candace Parker left them in good stead. I am totally
not concerned whatsoever, and I really do see them winning
a three feet I think it's very matter of fact,
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it's beyond possible in mind, and.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I love I also to add to your point really quick, Chris,
I also think I love that the Aces have said,
we know that Candace spent more years with other teams
than she did here, but we still honor her and
put her in one of the Aces.
Speaker 6 (42:23):
Is great.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
You know how, no matter how far back in the
pipeline of that franchise history you go, they are still
placing her as an alum of that organization, which they are.
She's a championship player of that organization. And I love
the respect. Everybody doesn't get that respect, and everybody don't
deserve it, but Candice Parker absolutely does.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, talk about it, talk about it all day long.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
We know what also going to talk about is how
great the WNBA, or how great of a position the
WNBA is in right now when it comes to this
end Flunks influx of new talent with Kaylyn Clark, Andinguri
stive Lecardos so Rakia Jackson, Kim Brigg list goes on
and on, and of course CBA deal.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Is about to come up, so there's very important.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Discusses to be had. I feel like we're headed in
the right direction, right Serick.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
I couldn't be I couldn't be more excited. And that's
really all I'm going to say. I think, you know,
in the past, I've had complaints, to be honest with you,
about the WNBA. I feel like there was a lot
of talent that had to be shipped overseas simply because
roster spots just weren't available, and it is a prevailing issue.
But I do think with the level of ability that
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this new rookie class has and how they're going to
be able to have cohesion with who's already there, I
just I'm probably most excited about this WNBA season since
arguably to Houston comments back in the day. I mean,
that's how that's how much I'm looking forward to it,
and I don't And people might argue with you played
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the game, what do you mean not looking forward? I
mean like an excitement, like I can't wait. I haven't
felt like that in a very long time. When it
comes to the WNBA. You know, you watch it because
you're a former player and you're you know, you've coached
high school kids, you're a basketball player, so you want
to be engross in the game in some way. But
that excitement, Yeah, I haven't felt that in a long time.
So I feel really good about it. And you know,
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seeing different updates on Okitlin Clark is having an incredible
training camp and looking at some of the things that
Andrew Rees and Camilla Cardoso are doing on their end,
this is going to be a special not just a
special year, but we're talking about a special span of
time that we're ushering into a new level and a
new season just in general when it comes to WNBA specifically,
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and that has been something that I think a lot
of us who love this game on the women's side
have been waiting for. So I could not I could
not be more excited. I have no apprehension of it,
and I think it's gonna be more competitive too. You know,
you'll have teams that are that are going to do well,
like the Aces as we just mentioned, but I think
there are going to be some teams that are going
to kind of come into the fold that even other
people may not have been expecting to really be where
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they are, and so the competitive competitiveness of the league
is also something that I'm really really excited about. It's
gonna be a it's gonna be a really great time.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Well, you know, I'm sure you touched heavily on the
w's transition, but I don't typically do this, but we
kind of have to show a little bit of love
to the NBA's transition. Come on, now, I know, right,
I'm usually nothing. I'm usually not the one to Lina
love like this, but I'm at our jump ball segment.
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We'll be right back to talk a little bit more
about why we need to show the NBA a little
bit more love.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
In their transition to team.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
You know, I am actually looking forward to a lot
of these second round, third round matchups, and that surprises
me as it relates to the NBA playoffs because there's
no Kevin Durant, there is no Lebron James, there is
no Steph Curry. These names that we have associated with
being deep playoff run players are not there. And last
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night on Twitter, I had a long conversation with several
people and it was a great dialogue about how the
NBA is in good hands, and there's this new era
of NBA basketball that we're seeing. And there were some
who were like, yeah, you know, they are washed up
and it's good to see new people. And then there
were others who were like, well, I don't think they
washed up at all. I love this new era of
(46:36):
NBA basketball that we're seeing. And for me, it's not
necessarily because I think that Kevin Duran or Steph or Lebron,
as we've talked about at length, is washed up. I
don't think any of those players are washed up. They
could still very much be contributors. I love the fact
that these new stars have e merged to the point
that we don't need Lebron and Steph and KD to
(46:57):
be the focal point for us to enjoy the p
that we're seeing on the floor. I am excited to
watch Tyrese Maxie, I am excited to watch Jamal Murray.
Speaker 6 (47:06):
I think SGA needs to be the MVP.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
So I say all this to say that the way
that this NBA youth movement has really taken over and
kept us as fans entertained has.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
Really been great to see.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
I don't know that I saw this happening this quickly,
because it feels like it's happened rather quickly.
Speaker 6 (47:29):
But I love what I'm seeing.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
What do you feel about the new change, changing of
the guard or changing of the tide, shall we say,
Chris as it relates to these new stars in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
I'm ecstatic because this is how the game is supposed
to evolve and growth.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
You have the legends who did their damage in their heyday,
and there come a time when young Buck says, look
getting a little older. I know you still canvolve, but
we coming for that crown. Were coming for that spot.
Like that competitiveness, that fire the fearful, especially with Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Oh my goodness, so give it to me, y'all SGA
superstar Jamal Murray, a guy who hasn't been an All
Star team right, but plays like an All Star, first
team All Yeah, first Team All NBA. When it comes
to the playoffs, you got Tyrese Halliburn, Tyree MAXI.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I think the issue, or one concern I have, is
whether the NBA and the media ecosystem is ready to
put a spotlight on these young guys to make sure
they turn into these global ambassadors and superstars just beyond
the court, but often as well, where Anthony Edwards can
(48:39):
be the face.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
So that's my only concern.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
But on the court, oh yeah, bring it like these
new guys are coming and they ain't scared of nobody.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
I think it's important to talk about exposure. We can't
have this conversation without denying how intricate and how important
social media has been in things like NBA League Pass
and we are beat over the head in the best
way with replays and different creative videos. And I think
that when people are introduced, reintroduced and able to ruminate
(49:13):
over greatness no matter who it's coming from, their loyalty
no longer absolves the reality that's happening. And so I
think we have fans that are more savvy. They're loyal,
They're always going to love the kds, They're always gonna
love the Lebrons, but they have no choice but to
accept the new reality and the excitement around these young players.
So I think that social media has played a huge
(49:37):
role in changing the tides. And all these other smaller
blog sites that just all they do all day is
push out greatness. They just I don't care if you're
not looking for it. Here's this person, here's this person.
So the exposure to the game I think is ramped
up and has changed. And it's said, and hey, if
you love basketball period, there's no way you're going to
be in denial about what we're seeing right now with
this new generation. So I'm excited and I think too,
(49:59):
that's going to force to your point, Chris, that's going
to force the Adam Silvers to say, you know what,
I don't. I don't really have a choice but to
put these guys out front, because now this is what
people expect to see, This what they want to see.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Yeah, you know what I will say, is this to
close us out if I have to see that.
Speaker 6 (50:20):
What a pro wants? What a pro needs? Commercial? Woman,
When I.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Tell you fifty times a day, literally nobody else want commercial.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Then they got one now about the pony and you
can hear them playing genuine pony in the background.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
I don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.
Speaker 6 (50:39):
Exposure.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
It's just the point of exposure that I agree that
exposure helps, And boy, I bet not I don't want
to see what a pro wants.
Speaker 6 (50:48):
Now. Christina Aguilera can't even get no.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Loves so coordinated, so so cute, Dad corny, corny and
cute and oh my nerves. Guys, it has been fun
as usual hanging out with y'all at the pod.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
Folks. I need y'all.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
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with five stars and in my bow MANI voice, if
you give us less than five.
Speaker 6 (51:33):
Stars, you're a hater, period because we're the period. But
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