WNBA Drama Continues, NBA Finals Predictions, Giving Flowers and Calling Fouls on Frauds to Sports Journalists

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
What's going on everybody. It'sha girl, Sharina Cole back on
another episode of three on three pod and it's been
a triggering forty eight sixty five, seventy two, one hundred hours,
whatever you want to say, it's been a time. So
I'm trying to stay calm today and hopefully Chris Williamson
and Tarika Foster Brasbey can help me do that. Lots
to talk about. Welcome back, first of all to Chris

(00:31):
who wasn't with us last week and they was somewhere
with a U All that was the movie.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Had multiple U haul you know, we had boxes on
top of boxes on top of boxes, but the move
was you know, it was strenuous, but we made it
through and that's why we have a team, me and
my wife and we're looking We're looking pretty right now.
I still got some work to do, but the hard
part is done.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I love it. Well. Congratulations and shout out to the
sg rows and we at least one of them is
in the house today. Toria should to show everybody your
ear rings.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Are you are?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
YouTube family wants to see the air rings.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Because that's what we ripped all day every day and
it's crazy because, as we've mentioned multiple times, all three
of us on this of the hosts are part of
MPHT Greek sorority fraternities.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know, Shariza member of Zeta Phi Beta. Okay, Chris
is a member Beta. And I just learned that our producer,
Lauren is a Spring twenty four new initiate, new inductee
of Delta Sigma Theta. So I logged onto the call
and seen this Delta shirt and was like, ma'am, how

(01:38):
are you burying the lead? And oh man, so like
now we officially need to get a partnership with like
washing the yard. We need correct, somebody needs to be
collabing with like something. We need to be collabing with
some type of right.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
And that's the first time she came on camera during
one of our pre show calls.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
It the first time she's excited. She wants to let
us know what time. And I just so happened to
be in red and white today. Apologies to my sol wars.
Just think of it as me supporting Lauren her new endeavors. Congratulations, Well,
I don't even know if congratulations is the word for

(02:21):
some of the things that we're talking about, but it's
going to be a really great show today. Get ready
for some ebbs and flows, ups and downs. But I
got I got to shout out, you know, every time
I see them put another W on the board, I
got to shout out the Connecticut Son. I always think
about Tarika every time they win another game. I'm like,
I know Terka's somewhere rejoicing.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Were Lee somewhere, Letty. But I got to keep it
really in because I don't want to look biased.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
It's okay to. I mean, you've you've been doing such
a great job, and we got to. I just want
to shout you out again. I know we usually do
because we're so proud of you and so happy to
see you shine your light in this way. But all
the coverage you're doing with the Connecticut Sun says you're
doing incredible job. So keep up to good work. You
can be biased. You know that's your team. So I'm
I'm looking for it because of you. Look at look
at what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Army.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
We're building an army.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
We are we are building Hey, look you see you
on the w n B space.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I still tired from moving boxes. I know I ain't tired.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I ain't never tired. That's the mentality what they say. Yeah,
that's a mindset. I ain't never get tired. You know,
I got big ass, you know, bags under my eye.
But the NBA Finals, like they have been off the
air for quite some time, and we still are not
going to have a game on until Thursday of this

(03:43):
week between the Celtics and the Mavericks. Uh So, I
can't wait for all that because with the fact that
you don't have any basketball there, and then the discourse
about the w n b A and Kaylen Clark, I'm
so glad that we're finally going to get some more
basketball content this week where we can talk about the

(04:03):
actual games. Well we should have been doing in the
first place, but that's not my business. Not my business,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, Well, I mean I think we have a lot
of basketball that we can discuss anyway that does not
have to do with the foolishness of that situation. But still,
I know a lot of people have talked about whether
or not this has been good for the sport, if
this has been good for the w NBA, and most recently,

(04:33):
I know that Angel Reese basically said, listen, we all
have played a part in the growth of this sport.
We have all played a part, and you know I'm
part of that. And I think some folks are one
tripping because, like most outlets, they didn't play the whole clip.

(04:55):
They played a clip of angels speaking and they stopped
it at where she says, I want y'all to recognize that.
But what she continued saying is I want you all
to recognize that we have all played a role in
the growth of this sport. And it's true. If you
look at the numbers, you will find that women's basketball
has been growing year over year for the last several years,

(05:18):
that they have been operating in a profit for the
last several years. Even though people want to say a
WNBA don't make no money, WNBA has been making money
for the last several years. And also that the reason
that everyone watches WNBA is not specifically for Kaitlin Clark.
No one's diminishing that a lot of new eyes and

(05:38):
new interests have come to the WNBA because of their
fandom for Kaitlin Clark. But there were there were WNBA
fans that existed before this rookie class got here. And
the Yukon nation is strong they're supporting their Ukon rookies.
The South Carolina nation is strong, They're supporting Camilla Cardoso
like a mug. The we know the Iowa nation is

(06:02):
strong and supporting. So it's like we're we have for
years asked for the college basketball scene to translate over
to the WNBA. We're starting to see that now. Of course,
you get the good with the bad, But I think
that there has to be someone who can step up
and draw the line and say, hey, listen, y'all, y'all

(06:24):
are taking this way too far. And I think my
only gripe with this is the fact that Caitlyn has
yet to do that. She has the power in the
ability to simply say, hey, y'all, I love the fact
that y'all support me. I love the fact that y'all
want to ride for me and protect me. But to
any fans out there misrepresenting me, miss representing my brand,

(06:44):
misrepresenting what you know, what a Hawkeye fan is or
what a Fever fan is, we don't need to be misogynistic.
We don't need to be biggots. We don't need to
be racist, we don't need to be disrespectful to people
who are just doing their jobs and that's it, Like
you gotta go no further than that. Like to me, silence,
it's the same thing that they said about Sabrina Yestu,

(07:05):
that she was just silent. I think silence speaks. And
I also understand that you have a pr team, you
have a group of people who may be advising you
stay out of it, don't say nothing, be quiet, let
us handle it. I did all of that, but at
some point you've got to be a grown up and
tell your fans to chill out.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Go ahead, Chris, I'm trying to go ahead so I
can gather my thoughts and calmly express them behind Terika.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
It must be so nice, you know, to your point
to Rika, to be able to be a white heterosexual
woman in the WNBA where you have the privilege to
just hoop, because that's what Caitlin has always been talking about.
I just want to hoop, Like I don't pay attention
to this course, you know what. I don't know if
I believe it, but whatever, I just want to hoop.

(07:54):
That's all I'm trying to do. And you know, she
has given flowers to you know, the people or the
great players from the past, right of course we know
her favorite player, mind Moore. But that is what irks
me is people saying, well, she just wants to hop
that's well, yeah, what about the other what about the
black and brown players in the WNBA. They don't have
that privilege, they don't have that luxury because they are

(08:16):
constantly faced with attacks from racist people, from misogynistic people,
people who do not value black women specifically. And so yeah,
we're not asking Caitlin Clark to be on the front
lines and right and be an accomplished you know, to
black empowerment. It will be nice, but we're not at

(08:38):
just give a simple statement, right, that's it again, We're
not asking you to move mountains. And it's not unfair
to ask that of somebody who is one of the
most famous basketball players, male or female in the world
right now. So yeah, I hear you, Tarika like it.

(09:01):
It bothers me for sure. And then the other part
is she she kind of leans into the narrative of
being I won't say, yeah the victim, right or this
helpless shop. I'm being hammered, you know, I know I'm
going to get every time, you know, people are coming
at why.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I just braced myself who look at the.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Look at the response from Angel Reese right when she laughs.
She laughed when John Quoe Jones deckt with a crackback,
and even though she was a little banged up after
Lista Thomas, you know, choke slammed her down to the ground,
she was like, Yo, thank you for that, Like, you
know why, because it's gonna make me better. They're not
going to take it easy on me. And I got

(09:45):
back up. And that is why people have an affinity
towards Angel in part because she is a dog. She
isn't going out there expecting people to just let her
blow by and that it's going to be some fairy tale.
And that's all I'm going to say for that.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Interestingly, enough is often not a fairy tale for black
women in pretty much any space, which speaks to what
you both have said. I agree with you both. I'll
just say this. The accountability piece for Caitlyn has been
a big part of my disgust. And again, I think
that I can speak for all of us when I
say it's totally understandable that Kennedy Carter's hip check hit

(10:28):
whatever you want to call it, was not a basketball play.
It was not appropriate it was the wrong decision for
her to make. Everybody from the three of us on
this show to our staff are equally aligned on that.
So before I say what I'm going to say, I
want to be clear. I don't agree with what Kennedy
Carter did. Do I understand it? Yes, I do. And

(10:50):
here's why there's jerseys behind me, there's posters.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I'm in.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I played this game. I play this game all the
way up through college, and with that came a cost.
I'm looking at a hipcheck. I've had my cornea scratched
and walked around like Captain Hook for a week. I've
had my lips split open to the point where I
had to get it glued in the middle of a
game and go back out and play. So from an
athlete perspective, what I saw was so minor, and it

(11:17):
happens all the time in many respects, it's not even
worth mentioning. We have literally made a media frenzy out
of something that is so low hanging fruit. As a
basketball player, I am absolutely disgusted. Chris, you are exactly right, Tarika,
You're exactly right. At some point, Caitlin Clark's complicit behavior

(11:39):
has to be called out. She actually isn't a victim.
She's not you, my dear, are a professional athlete. You're
one of the most as Chris has said, touted and
celebrated professional athletes, not just currently, but that we've ever
seen in the women's game. And that is because the
media has allowed that to happen. Yes, you deserve to

(12:00):
be where you are, but let's understand the media has
played a huge role in ensuring that you are the
person with that you bear a load of responsibility, whether
you like it or not. Coming into the league, coming
into a situation that's more elevated than where you just
came from, it's automatically a target that's going to be
on your back. Period. Ask anybody, Ask any rookie, Ask

(12:21):
any kid that graduated eighth grade and went to varsity.
It happens. Ask any kid that graduated high school, went
to college. It's part of the process. It's part of
the process. It comes at a cost. Not once have
you said you know, but guys, I know you talk
about me getting smacked by hard screens. Screens are screens.
They're not supposed to be soft. You know what I
need to do. I need to work on my defense.

(12:43):
I need to get my feet right so I know,
I know what you guys are seeing and I gotta
and sometimes my teammates not. We got to get on
the same page with communication. So as a team, we
got to communicate through the screens. I have to work
on my defense. I have to work on my feet.
We've been talking about my defense is no secret. I
gotta get better. I'm getting There are times that I'm
getting smacked. It's happening, and it's happened on It's part

(13:03):
of the game. You know what I need to do, guys.
I gotta get in the wait, right, I gotta get stronger.
I gotta get stronger, guys, and I'm gonna get stronger.
Not once has she taken accountability for anything that's going on,
and yes, everybody, she should be taking it. Absolutely. To
Tarika's point, you have the power, which is interesting and fun.

(13:23):
Isn't it to be able to tell people who follow
you in a cult like manner to calm down and
guess what some of them will do because they don't
understand the game. They just want to do what you
say and what you like, Yeah, will stop y'all, and
so don't cap and tell and say anymore that you
don't know what's going on, that you're not following social media.
Excuse me, miss, you know exactly what's going on. Are

(13:46):
you walking around in the world where there's no televisions,
your cell phone is not, nobody's talking to you, You
have no family, you have no friends, nobody's saying anything
to you. You are in a world where you know
you're oblivious to what's going on, miss me. And so
with that said, I don't consider her a victim. I
don't feel sorry for her. I absolutely do not. This

(14:08):
is a physical game. Dear men, welcome to women's sports.
I welcome you in. We've been waiting for you. This
is what we do. We can put our beautiful clothes
on our heels and walk into a game, into a
locker room, put a uniform on, turn up and scrap
on a court, put that same dress back on and

(14:28):
go and be women and do whatever else we want
to do. That is the dynamics of the divine feminine.
Welcome to our world. But if you want to speak
on what we do in our world, you need to
understand it. And that means you need to listen, which
is what I'm finding isn't happening. So once more, I
don't condone Kennedy Carter's behavior. I understand it. In in addition, Caitlin,

(14:49):
be mindful of your audience. You might not want to
talk trash and get in the faces of certain people.
And one last thing here, Aliah Boston is not her
enforcer and she's not her body guard. I'm tired of
people acting like every time Caitlyn gets into a bind
that Eliah is supposed to come in and all of
a sudden swoop in and defend her. As a team, yes,
they need to work on that, but understand, we're not

(15:11):
in those locker rooms. We don't know what those team
dynamics are. We don't know who likes or dislikes who.
So when somebody's not coming to your defense, you might
want somebody's not coming to somebody's defense, you might want
to think about why they're not doing it. But also,
I've watched Aleah Boston. I've watched her pull Caitlyn Clark
from multiple ledges this season, yeah, multiple times, and sometimes
be the only one. So lay off of her as

(15:33):
well and pass her the ball more, which I've been saying,
let me calm down I'm sick of this. I actually
don't want to talk about Kaitlyn Clark anymore for the
rest of this show.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
But carry on, y'ah. And quite honestly, there's really nothing
else that needs to be said in regards to that,
because you laid it all out.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I'm just tired. Let's talk about basketball. This is stupid, guys.
This play We're like going on three games ago. This
is what we're talking about. And we love this game,
we cover this game, we know this game. Can you
if somebody said, guys, you're gonna spend twenty five thirty
minutes on your show talking about somebody that took a

(16:11):
cheap shot that didn't hurt them, Right, there's no boat
broken bones that they were so energized afterwards to the
point where they had enough energy to flop on a
few plays after or we're gonna talk about that for
thirty minutes, or.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
How about not just talk about the official and the officiating. Right,
There's a reason that flagran files exist in sports Figer
Flowers and xistic sports because they know throughout the course
of a game, somebody at some point will do some
shit that they ain't supposed to do, so there's already
a penalty in place for that type of behavior. The
official didn't call it. That ain't on Kennedy, and it

(16:46):
certainly ain't on Kaitlin. It's not that won't do her job.
So that is what it is. We see officials not
do their job all the time. It is not on
It is really not worth all this conversation. What is
worth conversation is the fact that Connecticut is a no
what is worth coming looks so good. So they're going

(17:07):
to be going up against the Mystics to continue as
of today Tuesday, the day that we're recording the show,
and the Mystics is like depleted in terms of Washington
just keeps being riddled with injuries, right, and so this
is a great momentum for Connecticut because what it does
is give them an opportunity to be in a good
space before they go up against the Liberty on Saturday.

(17:29):
That's the game of the week, that's the game we
want to see. We already know what that's going to
be like, all right, But the Liberty, because we're gonna
bring it back on Tuesday, are also facing Chicago, the
Chicago team that also kick their butt in New York right,
So there's that. So there's so many other storylines that

(17:51):
are happening and that are going on, and I also
just really quickly want to address something because there are
a lot of people who swear they know what happens
in media and have never ever, ever worked in media. Okay,
the WNBA has a policy that is a new media
policy that has been in effect for the last two years.
Because the WNBA players decided that they did not want
media in the locker rooms anymore. That was their decision

(18:15):
to make. And because they made that decision, the Players
Association then agreed with the WNBA that the way that
they would handle that is that now if media members
requested to speak with a player in the third or
fourth quarter before the end of the game, whether they
were on the podium or not, if only one media
member makes that request, those players have to make themselves available.

(18:37):
What people don't understand is that reporters write stories on
all types of things. It's not always based on the game.
It's not always based on game performance. Sometimes people need backup,
second piece comments or something to support a story, so
they may want to ask a person a question that
has nothing to do with the game. It does not
matter that that person was or was not on a podium.

(18:58):
It doesn't matter that they were were not the top performer.
What matters is if a journalist or a media member
makes the proper request and the proper amount of time,
then the WNBA player has the obligation to speak with
that media member. You may not want to. It might
be a stupid question that you feel, but that is
the rule. All WNBA players know it because the Players

(19:21):
Association agreed to it. So Angel being fined one thousand
dollars while it may be chump changed because we know
Sister's ballinger, don't nobody want to just give up their bread.
I don't care how much money you make. I make
enough money to wear. Twenty dollars is twenty dollars, but
I ain't trying to get nobody.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
To all theirs.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
So that's number one. Number two. I have learned that
the request for Angel was not done in the proper time,
So if that is the case, then she was within
her right to decline to speak to whatever that media
member is. But I guess there is some back and
forth based on whether or not that's accurate, whether the

(19:58):
request was or not made within the proper timeline. If
it was made in the proper timeline and she declined,
the WNBA was right to find her one thousand dollars.
Doesn't matter what they what the person was going to ask.
I am sure that it might have been the thought
of this person might be wanting to ask me about
why I was excited about Kennedy coming off the bench.

(20:21):
They might want to ask me about Caitlyn. They might
want to ask me all this other stuff, and I
don't want to talk about that. Understood. How you handle that,
baby girl is when the question is asked, I refuse
to comment, I have no comment. I decline to answer,
I declined to respond, don't decline to show up. Don't

(20:42):
just want decline to show up. So I just wanted
to make sure that that's clear. I don't want anybody
to be out here talking about talking trash about this
woman saying, oh you show ain't nobody. I don't know
what people requested or didn't request it. I just want
you to be aware of the rules so that if
you're going to engage a conversation, you engage intelligently in
the conversation station with full insight. That's all. And on

(21:02):
that note, y'all.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Wait, I think I just wanted to add one little
thing to that.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Well, Shari, can you do me one second?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Go ahead and do your thing.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I'm sorry, Can you save that thought until we come
right back, because I know we're gonna have someone to
talk about it. You're gonna be right back, all right,
We Backscherie, And I was rude.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
You were being a professional and a darn good host,
not rude at all. And I did not forget. I
loved you. I loved your commentary on what you were
saying about Angel not showing up. And I was just saying,
you know, again, as a professional, you have to do
your job. And I think that can be understood and
said across the board. I will say this, it's a
couple of things. She didn't show up for whatever reason

(21:51):
to that in that particular moment. But the next day
her and Kennedy Carter had a twenty minute press conference.
So again, let's not act like the these two women
are so resistant to talking to media and so rebellious
that they're just not going to talk to you know.
I think that EQ is an important thing, and sometimes
being mindful of your emotional intelligence or lack thereof put

(22:12):
you in positions where you look like a villain or
the bad guy. I think Angel ree says, we all know,
and she said very eloquently, I'm totally okay with being that.
So in that moment, I think she was mature enough
to understand if I don't do this, I already know
what's going on and it's gonna be what it is.
I remember interviewing Angel a couple months ago and it
was a very casual just hey girl. Hey, it wasn't

(22:33):
any drama, no drama at all. And I said, She
was like, well, can you can you just I would
just like my management to see this, just to make sure.
And I said, it's no problem, I can. I can
send a dropbox link. I'll send it over just to
make sure you guys are comfortable. And I said, but
you know, it wasn't it was a regular interview Angel.
We were just having a good time, she said. I know,
she said, but people will take whatever I say and

(22:54):
make something out of it that's negative. In the moment
she said that, I really part of me felt sad
for her, because you're talking about a young lady in
her early twenties who's just starting out of her career,
who has to be that mindful of every little thing
she says and does being turned around. So we see
her and Kennedy decline in many respects right after the
game for whatever reason. I'm not saying it's right before

(23:17):
whatever reason. But the next day they both showed up
and got be rated with the same question, asked twenty
five different ways for twenty minutes, and did it both
with a smile on their faces. And so I just
want to continue to bring perspective into play because I
am personally sick and tired of black women in particular
being painted as a sailance villains, demon eyes, bad behavior, rebellious.

(23:46):
We're not in these locker rooms, guys, we are not
in these spaces with these women. I'm not trying to justify.
I just want us to all be open to the
fact that certain things happen for certain reasons. So I
applaud them for standing their ground for twenty minutes and
being asked the same question over and over again and

(24:07):
taking it with a smile. And I hope I encourage everybody,
especially for those of you who have very strong feelings
about what happened between Kennedy and Caitlin, please watch that
full interview. It's not to excuse anyone's behavior, but it's
just to give you an understanding and context for again
the competitive nature of what's happening and what's been happening

(24:28):
in women's basketball in particular.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Very well said, very well set. And what I also
love about Angel in that clip or in that interview
after a few days after the game, was how she
called out one of the members of the media and
said JJ John Cooe Jones, she did the same thing
to me. And we can't pick and choose when we
want to discuss this uproar, right, Yeah, And to be fair,

(24:55):
she was absolutely right. Nobody is right. It was not
a media firestorm at all. And so her to your
point about you know, emotional intelligence, it's clear how smart
and mature Angel is even at such a young age,
and that really speaks to you know, I guess the
job that her mom has done in the way she's

(25:18):
cared herself, because that's not easy, especially given the fact
about how there are so many people who villainize her,
over hyper sexualize her, you know, death threats, and she
still takes it on the chin. She's like, you want
to make me the bad guy. Cool, I got it.
But what you're not going to do is play favorites
or oh well, it only matters when you know the

(25:39):
media is darling as people are calling Kaitlin it happens
to her. So yeah. And the other thing is we
need to talk about all the other players who have
done a tremendous job in growing the game outside of
you know, the Caitlin Clarks, the Angel Readsis right, even

(26:01):
you know, to an extent, the Cameron Brinks. Because we
talked about Brianna Stewart, Asia Wilson, Diana Tarassi, Skyler digg
and Smith. People do not give her enough flowers, and
the list goes on. Right, We could talk about, you know,
Christy Tollifford, so many other players that had to want
to bond her, right. Alyssa tomas Rique Arik. Arik had

(26:23):
one of the greatest college grinds she's ever right back
to back buzzer beaters in the final four. She was
on top of the world, and then because of misogyny
and the fact that people did not appreciate the women's
game back in those years eighteen twenty nineteen, she didn't
get that attention that she deserved, Like if she had
came up in this era, she might have gotten more.

(26:46):
But because she is a black woman, a black queer woman,
probably not to the same level. No, definitely not to
the same level as Caitlyn Clark. So I just want
people to what's that, no, go ahead? I was just saying, yeah,
I want people to understand there have been so many
other players too, Cannis Parker. There have been so many

(27:06):
other players who have contributed to the game and made
it what it is today, so that people like Kaitlyn
Clark and Angelice are able to reap the benefits and
they can take the baton and grow the game even further.
It's not just one person.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Absolutely, and I mean even to that point. Cheneo Gumaka
made a video where she talked about the greats in
the game and she talked about the physicality of the
game and that this is something that has been going
on for years. We've talked about it, I've mentioned it,
and of course my mention has been blowing up because
I said, listen, this is part of basketball. It doesn't
matter that it didn't happen or that things get physical

(27:47):
on plays that are off ball. Diana Tarrazzi, and I
specifically used her as an example where you tell anybody
who's ever had to be guarded by Diana Tarrassey that
this game ain't physical. She don't even damn you got
the ball. You don't care about this. If the play
is happening over here, DT gonna be DT. And that's
why people love a hater, because it is what it is.

(28:09):
Kandice Parker is another one. I know Clearson been catching
stro for the last two days. But as as as
a Detroit Shot fan growing up in those years, I
loved every bit of a bad boy, bad girl attitude
that the Detroit Shock had because Bill Lambert brought it.
He brought it from when he was a player. He
brought it, so we've seen it. Tweety was small, but

(28:30):
she had it. Who knows that he wasn't coming in
you know what I mean? Swin cash Yeah, period, you
know what I mean? Like it's and one of the
reasons that we can talk about this the way we
can is because we have all been involved in this
game for a long time. So I recognized that as
fans of this league since inception in nineteen ninety seven.

(28:51):
My memory s fan goes back of the things that
people will hardly remember because they weren't watching it then.
So I really am trying to be cognizant of the
fact that the growth of this league is new to
a lot of people, and even those who were fans
before this year may not have been fans back in
ninety seven, so they might not remember. You know, Candas

(29:11):
Parker having to fight her way out of Detroit. You
ain't the first one this. I lived there and I
got to fight my way out. But I'm just like,
there are just those who might not remember that. Just
what six years ago? BG and Kayla Thorpe and when
she was playing for Dallas, Yo, you have to say,
you're righted thought blow? She was like blows and I
was like, yo, y'all really pissed her off. BG.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Remember no, remember there was also an incident between the
Murky and the Wings where it was Christina Neguay right
and B Yeah, where Yo what? BG?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I think that was Christine I'm thinking about I think
I'm saying Kayla Thornton, but I mean, yes.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
That's the one where you had Brittany haul and ass
and Christine is flying away.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
From Britain running once Christina is running.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
He want no part of that, and I understand.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
He ain't want no parts of BG. I don't blame
you this.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I don't want no part of that MEI Yo, what's crazy?

Speaker 3 (30:11):
This is it?

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Like? What's crazy about BG is Like? It's interesting. I
feel like we forget that she literally went from the
most notoriously tough labor camp in Russia into a WNBA
season and it happened, and we kind of just dismissed

(30:32):
from a mental and physical and even emotional standpoint, what
that transition was like for her, I can't imagine. And
so thinking about a league that to your point to Rika,
I remember in nineteen ninety seven, I was because before then,
as a girl playing basketball, I didn't I wanted to play,
and I didn't even know if there was options for
me passed a certain point, and so when I found

(30:54):
out there was going to be a women's professional basketball league,
I was, like all of us that played or loved
the get or wanted to play at some level professionally,
there was a sense of hope that we had never
had before. And so I just I want to see
the collision of that sense of hope with this incredible
uptick of just passion and talent that we're seeing with

(31:15):
not only the women that are the rookie class and
the women that have been there for a few years,
but the women that are still here. Like as much
as we talk about Lebron as we should, guys, Diana
Trassi is forty years old. Let's go back to just
being a woman and just drop thirty one. Absolutely not
the things that we experience transitionally between thirty five and forty.

(31:38):
I don't even have time to get into it talking
about you're talking about a woman that is forty years
not even dominated one excuse me, forty one, still dominating
and still being arguably the brick wall that rookies have
to go through to be considered, Like, oh, you got

(32:01):
to go through Diana Tarassi and then then it's gonna
be all right. It's almost like crossing, like if you're greed,
you gotta go through that. And what's funny is there's
an entire if you guys, go on social media, even
back to the physicality, there's an entire like there was
a there was it was either Twitter, Instagram, it was
a whole chain and a trend where women that played
in the WNBA talked about when they were rookies. They're
Diana Tarassi's stories.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
How physical and impactful she's meant to this game. So
when she said it's going to be a transition, it's
coming from a real place. So to Tarika's other point, yes,
hello new fans, it's fine, We're glad you're here. But
my thing is this, get to know the history of
something that you feel so intent upon speaking on that

(32:44):
you really don't know. Now, if you just want to
be a spectator, that's a different story. But there's so
many conversations swirling around from people that have absolutely no
understanding of the game of basketball and or this league,
and or women like Diana Tarassi. You ask these people
who were the first WNBA champs in the league's history,
they couldn't tell you. They don't even know who these

(33:05):
women are. So I it's so I don't know, you know.
I think about, you know, coming up on the thirtieth
in a few years, I would love the WNBA to
do something just to commemorate the women that have paved
the way. You know, we saw the NBA do the
fifty and the seventy five, Like I would love the
WNBA to do something to cebmit the thirtieth the thirtieth year.

(33:25):
I think that would be really great, another way to
bridge the generational gap, because the women that have laid
the foundation, as you mentioned Chris, for the Kaitlin Clarks,
for the Andrew Reeses, for the Camera Brinks, for the
Rakia Jacksons to be here and be as impactful as
they are and will continue to be because they do
have that button. I really think it's important that we
bridge that gap. So I hope they do something in

(33:45):
a few years for them.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
I remember and I was talking to I'm really good
friends with Devro Peters. Jefro Peters, Oh yeah, Man, Devro
played played together in high school on ch Express.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Shout out to.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Them exals me when when you ask her about her
Welcome to the WNBA moment, he will tell you how
Diana was so nice to her and when she first
walked on the court and gave her love and she
was kind of stuck like oh, and then the moment
that the ball was tips over with it and she
was like, oh, well damn. So like that's just kind

(34:19):
of how that's just kind of how it is that
we roll and I mean any moment that has Liz
Cambaesian and I'm pretty sure we.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Can got today.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
So I say all that to say, you know, we
really have to release this imagery that we have in
our head that women are only supposed to be dainty
and lady like. You can have all of that divine
femininity when we are off the court, but when you
are on the court, you are a competitor. And it's
not just basketball, although I know we're a basketball show.
It's with all sports, you know what I mean. I

(34:49):
didn't play basketball in college. I played basketball up until
my senior year high school. I knew I wasn't gonna
be good for real, for real, so I moved on
to continue to play the sports I was good at,
which was volleyball, and Baby, my teammates on the softball
team didn't give a damn about what accolades and what
you might have dated Detroit when you was in high school.
But I've spent one as a college freshman, I found

(35:12):
out real quick what it meant as a catcher to
have this senior running to me at the play. Absolutely absolutely,
I'm here, clearly. So I say all that to say
there will be rookies that come in in twenty twenty five,
there will be rookies that come in in twenty twenty six,
and they will all endure the same thing. It's a

(35:33):
physical game and it will continue to be and we
gonna continue to show right after this break, All right, family,
we're back here on the three on three pod, and
Tarika made a good point. She mentioned a word competitive competitive.
I would like to say that there's a differentiation between
competitiveness and jealousy. For some reason, we have blurred those

(35:56):
lines and we have we have made competitiveness, jealousy and
hater ration in my Mary J.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Blige voice, which is completely she made up like five
words in that song. But let me say, let me
stay on topic. So I just want to provide you
guys with an example. I don't want to go belabor
this too long, but to Tarika's point, you're coming in,
you're coming in as a freshman, and you get ran
into by a senior that's looking at you like, let

(36:24):
me let this freshman know that she's in a different
world right now. That's not jealousy, that's competitiveness. When I
was playing in the Big Ten, I remember having to
defend several all Americans because I was one of the
best defenders on the team. These are girls that I
would watch later on go to WNBA and beyond, And
I remember before the game, I would say to myself,

(36:46):
I don't care if you drop thirty last night or
the night before. I don't care if you're not all American.
I don't care if youre getting drafted in six months.
You're not dropping thirty on me. You're not dropping twenty
on me. I'm about to lock you up. Yeah, that's
not jealousy. That's competitiveness. That is the essence of sports.
So I want us to be understanding and very clear

(37:08):
about that. For those who may have never really participated
in sports at a high level, you may not understand that,
but I'm sure you've had some level of competitiveness in
your life. It's a way of challenging yourself to be better,
and it's a way of challenging somebody that you're competing
against to show you there better. That's all it is.
Got us we have to be mindful of our words.
You got journalist, We all journalists over here. We understand

(37:30):
that there's a misuse of language that's happening that is
incredibly dangerous to how this sport, and I'll just stick
to women's basketball particular in the WNBA particular, how it's
able to continue to grow. We care about it, and
that's why we're talking about it. But just as much
as players go out and they play hard and they

(37:51):
do their best, you have people in front offices trying
to make sure people get the funds and charter flights.
We can go all day long and talk about that
as spectators, as commentators, as journalists, as just flat out
Twitter fans, whatever you want to call it. X. Our
language is extremely important. So before you go on X
and just type away and use the word hater or jealous,

(38:15):
please be mindful of what those words mean for the
women that have been building this league, that are going
out there and putting those uniforms on, and that are
playing under some of what some of them under extremely
strenuous circumstances. There's a level of advocacy and pioneering that
they're still functioning under because the league is still relatively
young and has a long way to go. So as

(38:37):
responsible as we can be with our words, the better
off the league will also be in the long run.
Why you have stars like Caitlin Clark and Angels, and
they're like building it in the way that they can.
So competitiveness, jealousy, hate not the same, guys. Stop applying
that word hat and jealousy to everything because it's not applicable.
These women are simply competing.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
And I say all time, the league is young enough
to still have hit. The league is old enough to
have history, but young enough to still be influenced and
affected by the spread of misinformation.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I love that. That's a bar. That's a bar right there,
and the other thing just but quickly before we move
on to the NBA Finals, Like jealousy and you know,
rezimb or whatever, like those are human emotions. So it's
okay if that were the case, Okay, so what okay,
all right, I'm jealous whatever you know. And so there's

(39:31):
so much Yeah, I love Shari that point you made.
We really have to understand what competitive competitiveness actually means.
And speaking of competitiveness, the NBA Finals is going to
be incredibly competitive because it's excuse me, yes, it is

(39:51):
going seven games between the Celtics in my opinion, yes,
in my opinion, yes, because there's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
People collar it could get weird. She snatching at her collar.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah weird. No, I pete, I pete. People thought the
Temple Wolves they were going to beat the Mavericks, a
lot of people because of their size and Anthony Edwards,
and we saw what happened there. I don't know who
you're in favor of, Tarrika, but for me, I got
I'm not betting against Luca and Kyrie again because I

(40:26):
bet against them in the Western Conference finals and they
showed my ass that I didn't know what I was
talking about. I underestimated them me too. Yeah, you know
so that that just is what it is. But nah,
you got one of the best defenses in the league
in Boston. You have one of the top offenses with
both Boston and Dallas, and Dallas is playing much better

(40:48):
defense than we've seen in the past because of the
trades that they made. Kyrie and Luca are more committed. PJ. Washington,
Daniel gafferd have been great, Derek Lively. So look, the
Dallas Mavericks are going to win the NBA Finals for
the first time since twenty eleven, which is their only

(41:08):
finals championship. Right with a guy named Dirk Nowitzki and
there's the same storylines, right, you have a European player,
you know, trying to go through the gauntlet of the
NBA and Luca and they've done that, and Kyrie's balling
his ass off. I don't know the other part.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Tell the other part. Tell the other part of that.
What the other part of the other part of that
that they played against the Miami team who had a
star and Lebron James who didn't show up.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Oh yes, yes, that's important.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
That's important to this story.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
You're right, you're right.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
She set you up, bro, Just quit now she's setting
you up.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Oh lord, Oh it just hit me. Oh lord, she's
about to get you.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
She's about to get you.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
I don't know what you're about to say, but you
said something else saying anything.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Okay, all right, the puppet mask is a waiting.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
You said, Jason Tatum, they're gonna struggle. He's gonna be
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Jason Tatum gonna be just like Lebron and not show
the hell up. I agree with you that, dab. I'm
just saying you talking about it's gonna be competitive and
it's gonna go seven games.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
No the hell it ain't.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Luca Ain Kyrie finished shut this ship down in five,
maybe even six. I give him six because I get
Boston ain't no punk. But Jason Tatum is not gonna
show up. Bro. Gave me twenty six and thirteen one time,
one time, one time, Perzincis is your only saving grace?

Speaker 1 (42:38):
What about you?

Speaker 2 (42:40):
What about you?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Okay, No, I'm not disrespecting Jaylen Brown for sure, Like
for sure, I'm not disrespecting Jaylen Brown. But I'm saying
this team has been able to skirt through these NBA
playoffs because they ain't seen nobody. And you're also telling
me that Kyrie is getting ready to go back to
Boston where he's stumped on the damn little Irish Man
and told fans to kiss his ass. Yo, get me

(43:03):
the popcorn now, because Celtics are going home. Bro, They're
going home. This is an exact repeat. It's gonna be competitive.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
I will see.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Sure, Yo, Sure it'll be competitive.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Sure we get to get to recomplet.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Let me tell you some I appreciate her take. I
appreciate both of your takes. I have been really struggling
with this guys. I'll be honest with you. What Kyrie
and Luca continue to build on every series is something
that we'll look back at this in some years and
say history was made. For sure, they're already doing it,

(43:41):
but the way that they've jeled and figured it out,
I don't know if Boston is gonna be able to
withstand that. And then you throw Lively and Gafford in there,
who simply are just ready at all times. When we
think about post players who are just always ready, whether
it's catching oops, rebounds, you know, when we think about

(44:04):
having two X factors like that, and they bring a
certain level of energy. And it's thinking about Lively's backstory,
I mean, lost both his parents, lost his mom very recently.
There's something on the line, and people play different when
something is on the line. You know, it can continue
to be argued that the Boston Celtics have had an
easy run in this playoff. I would agree with that
to a large extent. And also, you know, Porzingis will

(44:26):
be back, But just the athlete in me understands what
it takes to get back on the basketball court. Not
just I'm not saying he's been laying around and just resting,
but it's different. You're going through workouts and practices. It's
very different than being out there and running up and
down the basketball court and get banged and hit again
and all those different things that encompass that. I do
think there's going to be a window of adjustment that

(44:47):
he's going to be stuck in for a game or two,
and with that, the Celtics can't afford that, unfortunately. Although
I have the biggest school crush on Jason Tatum and
I always cheer for him regardless how he plays, hasn't
been playing well. And you know, he's beginning shots up
and finding a way to score because scorers do that,
but if you look at his defensive intensity, it is

(45:08):
very unsettling, especially in this last series, how he played defense.
It's almost like he didn't care, which was very weird.
And offensively, he is still leaning into that shot beyond
the arc off the dribble that has not worked pretty
much this entire playoff. He's going to have to attack,
and honestly, he's going to have to lean into Jaylen Brown,
probably a little more than he wants to, because he's
got a chip on his shoulder and a point that

(45:30):
he has to prove. Because everybody's saying the same thing
that Tarika has just said, where are you, Jason Tatum?
You are not. You're arguably not the guy that everybody
said you would be or should be at this point,
not only in this playoff, but in your career. So,
because I am nervous as well about Jason Tatum showing up,
I can't say with certainty that Boston's gonna win this.

(45:52):
I would like to see them win it for a
number of reasons. I also think you Holliday has really
rolls in, the rolls into the casion, especially rolls in
as a word. You get what I'm saying. He's risen.
There you go, hallelujah. He's risen to the occasion, especially
in this most recent series. So to see him in
white and what they can do just being you know,
X factors for the Celtics. We'll see what happens. But

(46:12):
I'm torn, guys. I can't say interestingly enough who's gonna
take this? But I will say this, if Boston didn't
win these finals, it wouldn't shock me. Oh right, that's
what of course.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
And I think it's also fair too, Chris, Like, I
think it's also fair to understand this when I talk
about Jason Tatum not showing up. I'm not only talking
about what it looks like as in points. For example,
twenty six points against the Pacers on the twenty seven,
thirty six points in I think game three, twenty three
points in game two, thirty six points in game one. Sure,
so if you were a person who only looks at stats,

(46:45):
you'd be like, oh, you score thirty six points, like whatever,
only in game four. I think it was game four
where it was the twenty six and thirteen game where
I was like, I felt Jason Tatum's presence in those games. Yeah, yeah,
shooting nine for twenty, shooting eleven for twenty six, like
all of that. That's kind of gone like that. Sheep

(47:06):
will say, yeah, you gave me twenty three points. But
I ain't felt you in this game. You haven't impacted
this game. You haven't taken over this game. You ain't
been Jason Tatum. You ain't been Jason Tatum. He did
that at all. And that is where I am concerned,
because as many people think you can just turn it
on and turn it off, you can't turn it.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
You cannot go off. You can do that.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
And I, on the other hand, believe that Dallas is
coming in this game. Like, first of all, Luca out
here so disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Absolutely, you know how I feel, not care like he just.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Don't like he's bringing the funk every single time. And
I've also said that Dallas winning the games that they won,
and there were times Kyrie was not taking over like
Kyrie style. I'm like, y'all doing that, and Kyrie ain't
even went off yet. So I feel comfortable in my
assessment that as as as popular and historic from a

(47:59):
numerical standpoint as this series could be, an as historical
of a run numerically that the Celtics have been on,
I feel it will be a similar to twenty eleven
situation where the biggest star needs to show up and
he doesn't in the moment that he'll need to, and
it will cost them this championship. I think Dallas wins

(48:20):
in six Wow.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Okay, ay ay, all right, I got you, like what becompetters. No,
I get that you shouldn't. Yet you should not in
three out of the four games. You should not be
in a last second situation, especially because in two of
those games they didn't have Tyrese Halliburton right, their best player,
big man.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
That that's the scary that's the scary part. That's a
scary part. It's interesting we talk about Jason Tatum, but
it's funny, like I'm at a point where I'm where
I'm now saying Jalen Brown's gonna need help, like Jalen
Brown's gonna need Jason Tatum to show up before. I've
felt like the opposite for a while, even last season,
but now I'm like, Jalen's doing what he's supposed to do,

(49:06):
and actually he's doing more than people give him credit
have been giving him credit for or quote air quotes
expected him to do, but he's been consistent throughout and
I don't I don't know, guys, it's gonna it's gonna
be be interesting. But I will say I don't know
how many chances the Celtics have after this if they

(49:28):
don't seal this deal. And that's another conversation that I think,
or I hope to not have to have in the
next few weeks.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Chris. You notice how Cherie still ain't said her prediction, right.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I don't have I'm not I told like, honestly, guys,
I am torn. I am really and mind you, I
and and I again, Hey, everybody, that's gonna call me,
I don't know, a racist, or find a name for me.
I would love to see Kyrie win. To be quite
frank with you, he's he's been through a lot, and
you know in certain respects that have put him in

(50:00):
an underdog type position. But to see somebody kind of
rise from the ashes and get to a space and
place where they're in a position to win a championship
and actually do it. I like that storyline. It doesn't
mean I align with what Kyrie has said and done
in the past that has not been things that he
should be saying or doing. I'm not aligning with his behavior.

(50:21):
I'm simply saying we watched somebody push through some very
serious circumstances and when potentially win a championship. I like
that storyline. On the other side of it, we've been
talking about Boston in this championship for quite some time.
I want to see it happen because I also want
to be right. I want a lot of us that
have been saying that they're supposed to win it be right.

(50:42):
And if that's selfish, oh well, but it could literally
go either way. I will say this, I don't think
it would be seven games either I think at most
six games. I don't just based on how the Celtics
have been playing, I don't see a seven game series
in them for this because I don't think they'll be
competitive enough to take it that far based on what

(51:04):
I've seen. Now, if Porzingis comes back in and all
of a sudden, he just jails and everybody just plays
like out of their minds. They've been waiting for this
moment and now all of a sudden, everybody's clicking on
all cylinders. God bless you. But from what I've seen,
Eve went porzingis no more than six games either way.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
All right, yeah, all right, all right, Well I'm claiming
Luca for finals MVP.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I'm claiming Kyrie Kyrie for Finals MVP, like his growth
and maturity to your point, SERI, but look, we gotta
go to the other side of the break, right because
on the other side, we're gonna be talking about how
male journalists seem to have no idea how to talk
about women's basketball except.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
For Chris Williamson. He knows how to try to do
my best, teach them like a master class.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I try to do my best. But yeah, we're gonna
get into that for our jump off. Right after the break, fans.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
We are back with more three on three, Tarica Foster, Bradsbe,
Chris Williamson, Scherena Cole and jump ball. You know, this
is our segment where we just kind of like toss
it up in the air. We do whatever we do.
We get on some things just real quick, and we
absolutely have to discuss why nobody outside of Chris Williamson
on our show knows how to discuss when basketball or

(52:24):
just women athletes because men men have been doing some
real men like stuff over the coladays. First of all,
you got steven A. Smith trying to call out Monica McNutt.
Let's not do that, steven A. Smith. And I also
love the fact that he goes on the show the
next day to try to be like, these are my girls,
these are my girls? Well, if they was your girls,
you wouldn't have been on your freaking podcast making videos

(52:47):
talking about you put them on like you like you
made them. No. But bull, let me tell you something.
First time I heard Monica McNutt on w ON on ESPN,
before she was even on the ACC network, she was
still doing Big East Best.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
China clob and myself were hosting the women's basketball show
that we created, and we asked her to come on
the show to be our women's basketball analysts to talk
about the Big East. So let's not do that. And
I'm absolutely not claiming to have put Barb on hell No,
Monica was Monica well before, well before she got to ESPN.

(53:26):
But bro, stop your madness. We're not going to talk
about Pat McAfee going on his damn show that you know,
people got laid off for so that his seventeen and
a half million dollar contract can exist. And you're gonna
really have the audacity and comfortability to say, but this
one white bitch from Indiana, that's really what we're doing

(53:48):
in twenty twenty four, That's really what we're doing. And
your little little cut group out there in this world
up here trying to have your back talking about when
I am z okay for Kennedy Carter to say, I
tell you what I will remind you that what you
will never ever need to condone is to have a
man go on national television and call a woman out

(54:09):
of her name, let alone a bitch. And let's talk
about bitches. The men that were sitting up there on
that stage with you and allowed you to say that,
and they didn't say a word. Wasn't a whoe, wasn't
a pushback, wasn't a nothing. That's some bitch attitude to
me if we're really talking about it. But you know what,
I'm gonna let y'all have go.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
You didn't have to do that, but you did. And
I'm so glad because that was some coward ass behavior
by all of his co hosts, right, just so weak again.
And the other thing is, I forget who made the point,
So forgive me if it comes across some taking credit

(54:48):
for or whatever. But people have been talking about how
a lot of these male journalists journalist, right because Pat
mcfee's not a journalist. Stephen a is, you know, drifting
more into the commentator role even though he's the background
his journalist. They don't see these women athletes, these female athletes,
as athletes. They see him as women first, right, So

(55:11):
they're treating them like how they view women in the
everyday world, where there is a lot of misogyny. Right,
there's a lot of sexism, and then there's a lot
of missogyny war with black women. That is what they
are revealing to the public. So I'm glad they have
exposed themselves because we know how they get down. And

(55:34):
then the other thing that pisses me off is how
Pat McAfee said, Yeah, I shouldn't have used, you know,
the B word to refer I shouldn't have called her
a white B word, right, even though we're you know,
talking about race whatever everything else. Facts, Okay, so you
were denigrating, you were demeaning the rookie class. The rest
of the rookie class. We have some badass players to

(55:56):
prop up Caitlin and you still stick by that, which
means you're fullish shit and you're only here for the
Caitlin Clark show. You're only here for her. That's it.
That is not uplifting the game, that is not growing it.
And this is why people talk about gatekeeping the game
from individuals like him and a steven A, because you're

(56:17):
not doing anything to add to the discourse. You only
bring it down. And I know, Tariky, you brought it up.
I think it was. Yeah, as of this recording earlier,
when we watch the first take, how they could be
talking about the Connecticut sun being eight and no, they
could be talking about how Anfisa Collier is having an

(56:37):
MVP like your Asia Wilson averaging twenty seven and thirteen. Basically,
but the.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Lincoln, the Storm, and the Storm and the Mercury are
facing off, which means we about to get to see
Skyler Dinnis Smith versus Diana ta Rossi.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Hello, exactly, but that's not We're still talking about the
Kennedy Carter fucking hip check, the fucking check, which happens
so routinely, and again we're not defending it, but it
happens sill routinely in basketball and yet yeah, so for me,

(57:12):
it just shows how they do not have the depth.
They don't have the range to talk about basketball play
because they're not watching the games, so they can only
focus on the salacious material. They can only focus on
the drama. And again, drama is part of sports, that's good.
But when that's all you're doing, shut the fuck up?

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Period? Are we dropping mic mics?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Wow? How do I come behind these? I am completely aligned? Hello,
white privilege. You can come sit here with me in
narcissism because Pat McAfee, that's just you're the personification of
those two things collectively. So hello, somebody. The fact that
you did what you did and said what you said,
and still have a show. Wake up the next day

(57:57):
and see you on television like nothing happened. Your apology,
which wasn't an apology at all. No one cares that
you didn't really apologize. How dare you you discussed me?
You just said several weeks ago that you weren't even
keeping up with the women's game. You didn't know who
these women were. I know, I'm not wrong. I saw
that with my own eyes. So now, yeah, you did.

(58:21):
You didn't know anyone. And now you're a devout Kaitlyn
Clark fan. In mind. You you can be a Kaitlyn Clark
fan all you want to, but you disrespected her and
it was wrong, and you disrespected women, and you disrespected
the other women in this league, and you disrespected the league.
Just leave us out of it, Leave us out of
your little show. We don't want to be involved in it.
And you shouldn't have a job today, sorry, because if

(58:43):
someone else, it's so convenient to be able to throw
that in there, if someone else did what you did,
and I'll leave you guys up to the someone else,
they wouldn't have a job today. So that's where your
white privilege comes in. Stephen A, I'm disappointed. This isn't
the first time, Shannon Sharp. You continuously disappin the level
of massogyny and narcissism I don't even have words for.

(59:06):
But I won't do what you've done to black women.
I'm not gonna beat you down. I'm not gonna beat
you up. Mind you, Tarik, I already got y'all together
in part so I don't need to do that. I'm
gonna take a different course, and I'm going to just
shout out and celebrate and give flowers to Monica and
Molly who sat on those sets and stood up to

(59:29):
a wall of tone death irresponsible behavior. When I talked
about irresponsible use of language, Steve, what stephen A and
Shannon Sharp did on that episode the first take was
a prime example of that. Watching two men just make
it their point to disagree with women for no other

(59:51):
reason than to disagree was quite fascinating. It speaks to
where we are in our society. And that's what Monica
said in her when she was talking to stephen A,
that this is very layered. We don't have time to
get into how there's an issue with black men protecting
black women. We don't have time to get into how
there's misogyny that permeates this entire storyline. We could have

(01:00:11):
a whole series about that. We don't have time to
talk about how black women and black men just need
to come together on some things. We don't have time
to talk about how behind the scenes we need to
have certain conversations and I put everything up top for
everybody else to see and scrutinize us once more. We
don't have time for that. But I want to celebrate
Molly and Monica because their level of poise, their level

(01:00:32):
of tact, the way that that they were communicating despite
being frustrated. That is a prime example of the divine
feminine that I spoke about earlier. So if you're so ladies,
all you journalists out there, if you want to get
into this industry, if you want to sit in front
of camp live, live mics and cameras and you need
a mentor, or you need some examples, those two are

(01:00:53):
a prime example of how you do it. It's very difficult,
especially as a black woman. And yes, I'm leaning into
this because it's a real thing, and people try to
act like it's not what it is. It's very difficult
to be unapologetic, especially in the sports space, sure is.
And when I look at Monica in particular as a
black woman, I'll throw Kimberly Martin, even though she's football,
I'll throw her in the mixes well, a Karie, champion

(01:01:14):
of Jamail Hill, go on and on and on. It's
very difficult to stand your ground in these spaces, and
they have done it with such grace, and Monica doing that,
I just I wanted to cry. I was so happy
because I know what risks she took in standing her

(01:01:34):
ground that in those moments, and I know what it
could have meant for her. I was glad to see
the next day she was still on first sake, she
was still on get up morning. She still got the exposure.
Because a lot of people were saying we'll never see
her again. What she did signifies that we're in a
new time now, and we're in a new day, and
people are a lot less willing to get the scrutiny
behind giving her the boot, rather than okay, it's part

(01:01:57):
of sports, it's part of the talk. We'll keep her around.
Thank you, Monica, Thank you Molly. I can only imagine
we're sitting here in part because especially treating I because
of what you've sown into this industry in very under,
very very difficult circumstances. So I won't sit on the
men too long. I'm gonna sit up and give you
guys your flowers and thank you. And I was just man,

(01:02:19):
a paradigm shift happened the other day, and I'm so
glad I was able to witness it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Yeah, that's facts, and we can probably get out of
here after that. I just think that before we do,
the message here needs to be for those of you
who are new to covering, talking about, or bringing the
WNBA women's basketball and women's sports into your programs, into
your networks, and into the audiences that you generate. Be mindful,

(01:02:51):
be insightful with people on your show who can bring
that kind of conversation in an insightful way. Don't think
that you have to talk about everything because you're the host.
If it's not your lane, get people whose lane it is,
especially if you're on a network like an ESPN or
a Fox or a CBS or whatever, because you have

(01:03:12):
the platform. Media is what runs the circuit. The reason
why we gravitate to the popular things is because media
has placed it before us enough to where we want it,
desire it, and we see it. So I don't want
to hear WNBA one popular d N. That's why people didn't.
But with your platform and with your audience, and with

(01:03:33):
the way that you can make people care about stuff
they may not have cared about, that was a moment
for you. I made a tweet a long time ago,
and I ain't got time to go all into it,
but essentially what I said was that about a very
popular show right now, and the people behind the scenes
ain't like it. The vice presidents of the company didn't

(01:03:53):
like it. The people who run stuff didn't like it.
They didn't like the fact that I put out publicly
that I have been someone's trying to advocate for this
particular sport to get more love on this show that
was the number one show in the company, that had
more eyes on the show than any other show in
the company. And if you could just give this one sport,
this one segment, five minutes, it would do more than

(01:04:16):
not talking about it at all. Here we are, six
years later, you know, saying, people act like they have
been on the front lines of covering and talking about
the sport this entire time, and I refuse to bring
up their receipts because that would be petty. But no
I got them, and no I could, but I don't
need to because Monica and Molly and those who sat

(01:04:39):
in those seats have already done what needed to be done.
So kudos to y'all, and you know what we need.
We need y'all to do what needs to be done too.
So make sure you are following us on a SAT
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wherever you get your pot podcast. You've got to make

(01:05:01):
sure you give us five stars, pick us up, grade us,
you know, do all that good stuff. Don't be out
here saying no foolishness. Now, don't be no hater. There's
that word again. But it's been a heck of a show.
I've enjoyed it. I know you guys did too. So
from Tarika, Shari and Chris, we're out of here, guys,

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