This week on 4 From the South, Steve and Fab dive into Chile’s contested elections and talk about what is happening in Peru with their presidential election. They also examine the value of the job of Vice President and how South American countries handle presidential succession… perhaps not every country needs someone to take the reigns right away. They finish up with a conversation about Coldplay and how they might be the right band to bring the world together as concerts start back up again.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hey, we're back here on fourth from the South. I'm
Steve Healey. I've got my co host for Britto Capano. Fab.
How are you doing? I'm great? How are you doing, Steve?
I'm incredible. I have to one up you. If you're great,
I'm even better. We've got some amazing stories this week.
We've got we're gonna talk about Parissi down there in Chile.
He's going to do a live cast sort of. I
want to know how much he is like Alex Jones. Fab.
(00:37):
We're gonna get into that Peru. Uh. Look if it's Prue,
what's going on there? They're having a contested presidential election.
It's a perennial story. We're going to dive into it
here on the podcast. We're going to talk about Kamala
Harris here in the United States and the idea of
the vice president and whether they've got that going in
um Latin America. That's only three stories, so suspense as
(00:59):
we see if we can get to a fourth topic
here on four from the South. Okay, so, Fab, take
us down there to Chile. What's the latest the contested
election is going on. We've got the leftist Porridge against
the rightest cast. It's always phrased in such simple terms.
Maybe there's more complexity to it. What do you think
there is some complexity, but I mean it works, it
(01:22):
works for the what we need for this show. I
have to say that the at the beginning of the
election in Chile, all the international media was like the
extreme right and the extreme left, and now every time
they're like, man, maybe it's not really the extreme left.
So now he's like, yeah, boridges the left and Cast
(01:44):
is the extreme right and right. Cast was angry about it,
so he wrote a couple of like articles and letters
to newspapers saying like, hey, I'm not extremist, but of
course he is um to be honest. The election right now,
it looks like in every poll that borig is gonna win.
(02:06):
But of course the polls are always wrong. We don't
trust them. And it's they always find an excuse after
the election. I mean, it's it's funny that the way
they weren't like five thirty eight, always find an excuse
after the election. There's always some reason. Well, it does
seem like polling, like there was a time when you
(02:28):
would get called on the phone and you might answer
it and the person would ask you who you're gonna
vote for, and you might tell them. But now I
feel like no one's answering the phone. If they're answering
the phone, they're lying there's no It just doesn't I
don't know how you would get an honest sampling of
people's opinions to anyone who's asking you a polling question.
By definition, is somebody you're gonna work with um or
(02:48):
actually connecting with that. The well, until we have the
system that we have an election, then we have a runoff,
and we are in the runoff part. But the guy
who was running in the first part of election, by
the see Franco Paisi. We already talked about this guy.
He's living in Alabama. He do his whole campaign through Zoom.
He doesn't pay Ali money, so he can't go to Chile.
(03:08):
And he's still classics talk radio host kind of persona
great guy, and he is third. He came out third
in the in the election, and so of course he
couldn't make it to the runoff. But you know what,
something that happened when you you lose the runoff historically
is um when you run like you run and you lose,
(03:30):
you disappear, no one cares about you anymore. You know.
It's like, you look, we all talk about the two
guys who are still in the race. Who cares about
the rest? And but this guy managed to still be
relevant and the way he did it is true his
YouTube channel where he and four losers. They're not the
(03:52):
definition for these guys. They they they just talk with
with with the candidates who are still running and try
to get them in the show to decide who's gonna
Paris support. So these guys are like, who we thinking
you just lost? But they're like, which is here trying
to play kingmaker a little bit? They're playing Kingmaker and
(04:14):
it's working. That's the same part of it. Now it
looks like the whole election is of course not true
because people vote for whatever they want, but like it
looks like Parissi is the one who have the power
to choose who's gonna win. Uh. So he's doing like
this live streams and he already got cast uh this week,
(04:34):
and and who he's supposed to have bored each next
week but actually bored. She's hesitated about going. He think
it's not a great idea. We said before. He's number
one in the polls. So maybe it's not a smart
thing to do to go to a live stream with
four guys that hate you. Uh you just trying to
(04:57):
destroy you. Um, But I don't know. It's not a
crazy times that YouTuber can't have so much power in
an election. It's it's you know, my mind goes to
when I think of YouTube personalities, the guy I think
is Alex Jones, right, and I and as we have
a theme on this podcast that like, uh, you know,
things that happened in Latin America, a lot of them
(05:19):
then end up happening here in the United States. The
patterns if you're trying to learn what's gonna happen, there's
a lot of laboratories down there that are giving you
possible outcomes. And I immediately could foresee an election where
Alex Jones demands both candidates come on his show. Uh
in one of them says he's not going to because
Alex Jones is too weird, and the other one goes
(05:40):
and it's important and it swings some votes. Similar to
how Joe Rogan only had Bernie, you know, he would
only allow Bernie on his show, and he wouldn't take
the Buddha judge or whoever, so I remember that. I
mean really, the first thing I thought was like, oh,
this is like Joe Rogan interviewing uh Bernie Sanders. But
(06:02):
at the same time, this is not as cool. This
is just a zoom meeting, right, this is three hours
zoom meeting that doesn't have Like this guy doesn't have
a he doesn't have a He's only a politics guy, right,
he doesn't have like you know, Joe Brogan is actually
his brand is like a dumb guy who doesn't know
(06:23):
about politics. So it's interesting when he has Burnie on
because it's like, but this guy is already a failed,
busted candidate. I think Boris hasn't asked me for any advice,
but I'm thinking, no, on this, is there a cooler
YouTube he could go on? Like why doesn't boards be Like, no,
I don't go on the third Loser YouTube. I go
with this cool guy. Maybe it's you found or the show.
Maybe maybe it's this show. But I don't think speaking
(06:45):
in English for an hour is going to help him
to get more votes in Left Frond. Yeah, But at
the same time, I'm just I'm just like really shocked
about in in like the media, the old media, you know,
like the the newspapers and everyone in this in the
(07:06):
Julean media are like just giving everything to this guy.
You know, They're like, okay, you have a YouTube channel.
The last night a TV station connected to this YouTube
channel live and everyone just give up. I'm gonna saying
like the media didn't fight back to like get their respect.
They were like, okay, now you do wrong with it?
(07:28):
Just please. This is like an old entertainer trying to
sing a rock and roll song or something. It seems sad.
It's always sad. It's always sad. So let's see what happened.
I don't know if Bord is gonna go to this show,
but Cast it was last night and they treat him
like a king. Uh. Everyone thinks that there's just a
(07:48):
secret deal between Cast and pard C. Cast actually went
to They came to the US for four a hours. Uh.
During the election, wn't run off. In a weird move,
he met with Mark Garrubio. He was with some businessman's
and some people say they secretly he met with PARISSI
make a deal about how they're gonna go with the
(08:09):
with the votes. But I don't know. The election and
she is still going We're not going to know till
the eighteen. So yeah, we would not keep talking about
this in next episodes. Okay, we've got another presidential conflict
(08:34):
going on down there in Peru. We've talked about this
guy quite a bit, the man with the hat. What's
what's going on in the Peruvian election? So well, these
Day won finally. It was a very contended election and
Petro Castillo finally the president of Peru. He's been there
for a minute, and now he's getting impeach Yes, okay,
(08:56):
wait a second, so just to refill, refresh our listeners
of you haven't been found allowing Peruvian politics. I know
there are five or six of you out there who
haven't been. But Castillo a farmer, a teacher from a
fairly rural district. He wears a big farmer hat. That's
kind of his brand. He's a little bit of an outsider.
In a sort of shocker, he defeated the daughter of Fujimura,
(09:17):
former president slash dictator of Peru. There was some contention
over the election, but it seemed like Christillo won it
and he apparently fair and square. But now he's getting impeached. Well,
I thought right, according to Bloomberg, and this is I
think this is a first statement. Removing president is Peru
is the easier than almost anywhere else on earth. Okay,
(09:41):
Christio will be gone if eighty seven lawmakers a two
third majority, opposed him in impeachment vote. The former president
Bikara was in peached last year. Can you imagine like
you peached someone last year, next year you've beached someone again.
And nearly every proving president elected since has been impeached,
(10:05):
in prison or sought in criminal investigations. Wow, okay, cool.
So this is just a part of a circle of life,
the circle of life in in Brew and uh, well,
this is a problem. Is like they looks like the
system in Peru. It's it's really like the Congress have
a lot of power and it's a mass. They do
(10:26):
whatever they want, and they always have a lot of
indebta between one party and the other. And they also
they're like, okay, we need to destroy this guy. I
was part of his party a minute ago. Now I
can be on the other side. I don't care. They're
very flexible, uh to say at least and yeah, an
(10:46):
other impeachment in prew twists turns betrayals. Maybe I'm being stereotypical,
but it does sound a bit like the politics often
reflects telenovela, a lot of reversals, ups and downs, like
you need high, high stakes and drama to to check
(11:08):
politics in in South America, that's for sure. But I
should say we shouldn't see we can't just beat up
on Latin America here, because I was reading the other
day that every former president of South Korea has either
been in jail or is in jail at the moment,
So this isn't a unique to Latin America problem. Being
the president. There's a lot of opportunity for corruption when
you've got power. We all know that. And and you
(11:29):
know what, what else is very good South Korean self opreas. Yes,
that's a good point. Wherever the dramas are good, the
politics will follow the dramas because people they need it,
they love exactly. Okay, I'm kind a story from up
here in the United States, part of big Latin America. Um,
we've been hearing a lot. It's sort of slowly. It
(11:52):
began a sort of rumors, and then there'd be articles
about the rumors, and it's sort of popped fully to
the surface that like Kamala Harris, Okay, Joe Biden is
very very old if he runs for reelection, he'll be
eighty two or so, astronomically too old to be president. Uh.
And so who's who would maybe step in Kamala Harris
(12:12):
as a vice president? One after another, staffers from Kamala
Harris's office have been kind of quitting, which isn't what
you do if you're a political operator. And you thought
she was going to places, Stories started to leak that
she's a bully, that she doesn't do her homework. Then
the White House sort of said it's nothing but rumor.
But then Kamala Harris and Pete Boudaged were on a
(12:32):
sort of tour that seemed like it was designed to
repair a rift or or see which one or maybe
suggest a possible ticket for the next election. So it
just raised a question to me that maybe you have
some insight on the vice president. What is I mean,
how would first of all, how would Kamala Harris be
a good vice president? I don't know. It seems like
this is largely a media concoction, um uh. And they
(12:54):
just sort of make it up as they go along.
In the Telenovella style. But what's going on with vice
presidents in in American countries? I feel like I don't
hear about that quite as often as I do here
in the US. Well, I know different stories of I mean, Chile,
we doesn't. We don't have a vice president and we
never talked about it because it's not even a concept
(13:16):
for us. And once again, if the president die then
goes to Congress too, Yeah, we'll go to like a
Nancy Pelosi or something like that. You know, some person
in Congress will take the country. And uh yeah. The
vice press president also here is kind of like a
more of a it's it's it's just like it's a
(13:39):
TV character. No, they don't really do a lot, you know,
they don't have real power as far as they know.
So maybe that's the reason why we didn't copy that,
because I don't know. But the only thing I know is,
like right now in Chilling, the new election boardg is
kind of running with which would a doctor during the pandemic.
(14:02):
They give advice on TV. She's running kind of a
running mate. It's not rounding vice president, but she's in
every poster she's with him, and they yeah, they're running
as a team. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, she's probably gonna
be like the secretary of health or something. And I
think that's once again, in the perspective of the media
(14:24):
character it works. Then this is what I know about Venezuela,
and Venezuela is very tricky. So if someone is listening
and knows more about this, please let us know. I
know that they have six vice presidents. Okay, all right,
so they have six vice presidents and not all of
them are famous or there on the on the TV
(14:47):
or whatever. Some of them are just shady dudes that
live in Iran and run like an arcle state from outside.
It's once again, it's like over there. I think it's
more of a your vice president so you don't go
to jail kind of thing, gotcha? Okay, so now, yea,
someimes the vice president is like immune from prosecution or something. Yeah.
(15:09):
So actually the dirtiest guy that come of the vice
president for well, he's like, hey, dude, I need help.
I'm gonna go to jail. Okay, now your vice president.
Uh So, I think this the vice president system in
Latin America is very is very messy. Yeah, I mean,
it's maybe it's a weird institution in a way in
the United States. I mean, like I guess the sort
of we've had it for a long time, and it
(15:31):
seems in the age where the President of the United
States is like in command of a lot of like
nuclear missile submarines and stuff like, it might be pretty
important to have a guy or gal who's going to
take over immediately. There's a lot of sort of like
you know, designated survivor Tom Clancy kind of stuff that
involves weird scenarios where the vice president has to take
over right away. So clearly it's like a collective fantasy
(15:53):
of the United States. But if you don't have like
nuclear weapons at the disposal, it seems like you could
wait a couple of days a swell Congress figures out
who the next guy is. I don't know, like one
right now. I think when when when we we think
about the idea of a headless government, it's not that bad.
(16:15):
Maybe a week without anyone taking care of the country
will be refreshing. Uh. Sure, it looks like the system
hold itself, looks like the sititions keep going. You know,
the newspaper can be delivered and like the mails get
in time. I don't know. I think we'll be fine.
I mean, not the entire year, but maybe a week
(16:36):
of no precedent, a week a month, Yeah, you sort
it out. I mean, of course, in the in the
old when the founders of the U S started the
constitution that they had it that that the vice president
was the loser of the election. So it was like,
you know, it wasn't even like you pick your guy,
it was how how that works? Like the loser of
the election became the vice president. Yeah, he'd be the
(16:57):
vice president and so then you know if the president,
I guess his exact opposite would take over. They changed
that at some point they put in the running mates
and all that. So now you're kind of vote for
the world bonus, like I don't know, Joe Biden wins
and the vice president is Trump like something like that,
or think I think if they were playing under the
original rules of the U S Constitution, that's how it
(17:17):
would have gone down. Now we changed that, maybe for
the best, but who else, maybe we should go back
to that. Well flap I was worried that we wouldn't
have a fourth story here, and our shows called forward
(17:39):
from the South, so are would be justified to sue
us for mal practice if we failed to come through
with a fourth story. But luckily I've got one. A
headline for you. Cold Play the first great band to
play in Argentina after the pandemic. What they're sustainable tour
will be like, So it seems like bands are coming back.
(18:02):
They're coming it's happening. The world is opening up again.
They're gonna be big bands. I don't think even om Necron,
oh my Crown will stop this. It looks like it
looks like everyone is trying to ignore oh my crime
and the media and like the newspapers are like, hey, guys,
check this out, and I was like, no, no, yeah,
it's like all the hospitalizations in Europe. I mean, like,
(18:24):
just don't, don't do this to me. It's tough. You
can't just give the same story over and over again
in the media. You've got to even if that is
the truth, you've got to give us a twist or something.
And they tried it with the Delta, and that one
pretty far. And the narrating the truth not necessarily always
the same thing, and and and and this one have
a bad name, Like the marketing team really ruined this one.
(18:49):
I think O macron not a green name. Actually, it
was like an article in the New York Times was like,
how you said O my crons? Like I don't want
to say it. Don't teach me how to say it, right. Um. Well,
a friend of mine pointed out to me a somewhat
mind blowing thing that hadn't occurred to me. Oh micron small, oh,
oh mega big. Oh there's two letters in Greek. Yeah.
(19:11):
So it's like it's like how the US has double you,
you know, like it's just a description of the letter
oh micron. But don't start going around saying oh micron,
because no one will respect to you. I've discovered. Yeah. Um.
But going back to concerts and life events, I mean,
you can't stop them anymore. I think we we are
(19:33):
the other side. No one's going to go back to
the I think the only way, and this is my
my theory, the only way that the world will go
back to craziness. If there's a mutation of the virus
where kids die, yes, that will be a game changer.
But if it's not like that, I think, will we
go with oh macron macron and no one will care?
(19:57):
I would think by now, like there would be a like,
if they really wanted to scare you, there'd be a
famous kid who died of COVID and they you'd see
the kids picture and stuff, and that we haven't achieved that.
Maybe I've missed it, but I'm pretty happened media consumer,
and I've never heard of like a famous case of
a childhooded of COVID. And I am certain that there
there may be a kid who died of COVID. I
(20:18):
don't know, but um, it just hasn't broken through as
like a thing that we're fixating on. And I agree
with you. Until that happens, we're just gonna be like whatever.
But now, but now, going back to what this story
is about, why cold Play, Why when you have freedom
and you finally can't go back to live events, you're
(20:40):
getting these guys who are like so into colors. Why
they're so obsessed with colors and every health of colors. Yeah,
I mean colors are very basic stuff. You know, we've
seen colors before, so yeah, they're really obsessed with colors.
You know. It's funny because it's like I kind of
agree with you, and I wouldn't call myself exactly a
cold Play fan, but if we're gonna have like the
(21:02):
first huge concert, it does have to be on a
certain level of big and just you know, everybody there
can get with it. And I feel like cold Play
one of the few bands it's like YouTube cold Play,
like if they're your favorite band, that's weird. But everybody
there's nobody who's like I guess there's some snobs who
(21:23):
don't like cold Play, but it's fine. Whatever. They're gonna
play clocks and Yellow and you'll have a good time.
They're professionals. They're professionals. That's that's why they are. They
are professionals. Yeah, I I was. I was checking the
other day other bands they're they're coming, and I read
about that. Maroon five h still have an ongoing fight
(21:49):
with Latin America. A couple of years to go. Maroon
five perform at the festival and they put so little
energy and looks like they don't even know that they
were being live stream so they they just did like
the Cheets show possible. They just didn't even try and
(22:11):
live stream all over Latin America. And since then, their
their Instagram account, every picture has been bombarded by kids
tell them to go to hell because they didn't put
it off energy in a concert in Latin America. I'm saying, wow,
well that sucks, but I hope they learned their lesson
not to be half asking it and to find out
(22:33):
who's watching Come on Marine five. That's lame, that's the flips.
I feel like every band, any musician, their Instagram is
just comments of people saying come to Brazil. No now,
it's like, don't come too. If you hit that, don't
come to Brazil level, you've fallen far, you're falling far.
And uh yeah, I think I think right now you
(22:54):
can check Maroon five social media and you will see
some messages in Spanish tell them to go to you
screwed up when you've got messages in Spanish on your
Instagram telling you to go to hell wealth translate to
against me. I think we did a pretty good round
up once again of the events and news and currents
(23:16):
of big Latin America. We'll be back because we've got
to follow this Chilean election and a million other things
going on. Hit us up on Twitter, Gmail, Uh four
from the South is our name, and let us know
what you want to hear about in your world episode.
We'll be like five presidents of Peru from now. That's
how that's how the time is in Peru. I took
(23:40):
a nap. It was like two presidents of Peru. I
feel so refreshed. We're gonna drive to Grandma's house. It
will be a whole president of Peruvian presidency. So bring
a book. Okay, talk soon, Bye bye. Four From the
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Hey, we're back here on fourth from the South. I'm
Steve Healey. I've got my co host for Britto Capano. Fab.
How are you doing? I'm great? How are you doing, Steve?
I'm incredible. I have to one up you. If you're great,
I'm even better. We've got some amazing stories this week.
We've got we're gonna talk about Parissi down there in Chile.
He's going to do a live cast sort of. I
want to know how much he is like Alex Jones. Fab.
(00:37):
We're gonna get into that Peru. Uh. Look if it's Prue,
what's going on there? They're having a contested presidential election.
It's a perennial story. We're going to dive into it
here on the podcast. We're going to talk about Kamala
Harris here in the United States and the idea of
the vice president and whether they've got that going in
um Latin America. That's only three stories, so suspense as
(00:59):
we see if we can get to a fourth topic
here on four from the South. Okay, so, Fab, take
us down there to Chile. What's the latest the contested
election is going on. We've got the leftist Porridge against
the rightest cast. It's always phrased in such simple terms.
Maybe there's more complexity to it. What do you think
there is some complexity, but I mean it works, it
(01:22):
works for the what we need for this show. I
have to say that the at the beginning of the
election in Chile, all the international media was like the
extreme right and the extreme left, and now every time
they're like, man, maybe it's not really the extreme left.
So now he's like, yeah, boridges the left and Cast
(01:44):
is the extreme right and right. Cast was angry about it,
so he wrote a couple of like articles and letters
to newspapers saying like, hey, I'm not extremist, but of
course he is um to be honest. The election right now,
it looks like in every poll that borig is gonna win.
(02:06):
But of course the polls are always wrong. We don't
trust them. And it's they always find an excuse after
the election. I mean, it's it's funny that the way
they weren't like five thirty eight, always find an excuse
after the election. There's always some reason. Well, it does
seem like polling, like there was a time when you
(02:28):
would get called on the phone and you might answer
it and the person would ask you who you're gonna
vote for, and you might tell them. But now I
feel like no one's answering the phone. If they're answering
the phone, they're lying there's no It just doesn't I
don't know how you would get an honest sampling of
people's opinions to anyone who's asking you a polling question.
By definition, is somebody you're gonna work with um or
(02:48):
actually connecting with that. The well, until we have the
system that we have an election, then we have a runoff,
and we are in the runoff part. But the guy
who was running in the first part of election, by
the see Franco Paisi. We already talked about this guy.
He's living in Alabama. He do his whole campaign through Zoom.
He doesn't pay Ali money, so he can't go to Chile.
(03:08):
And he's still classics talk radio host kind of persona
great guy, and he is third. He came out third
in the in the election, and so of course he
couldn't make it to the runoff. But you know what,
something that happened when you you lose the runoff historically
is um when you run like you run and you lose,
(03:30):
you disappear, no one cares about you anymore. You know.
It's like, you look, we all talk about the two
guys who are still in the race. Who cares about
the rest? And but this guy managed to still be
relevant and the way he did it is true his
YouTube channel where he and four losers. They're not the
(03:52):
definition for these guys. They they they just talk with
with with the candidates who are still running and try
to get them in the show to decide who's gonna
Paris support. So these guys are like, who we thinking
you just lost? But they're like, which is here trying
to play kingmaker a little bit? They're playing Kingmaker and
(04:14):
it's working. That's the same part of it. Now it
looks like the whole election is of course not true
because people vote for whatever they want, but like it
looks like Parissi is the one who have the power
to choose who's gonna win. Uh. So he's doing like
this live streams and he already got cast uh this week,
(04:34):
and and who he's supposed to have bored each next
week but actually bored. She's hesitated about going. He think
it's not a great idea. We said before. He's number
one in the polls. So maybe it's not a smart
thing to do to go to a live stream with
four guys that hate you. Uh you just trying to
(04:57):
destroy you. Um, But I don't know. It's not a
crazy times that YouTuber can't have so much power in
an election. It's it's you know, my mind goes to
when I think of YouTube personalities, the guy I think
is Alex Jones, right, and I and as we have
a theme on this podcast that like, uh, you know,
things that happened in Latin America, a lot of them
(05:19):
then end up happening here in the United States. The
patterns if you're trying to learn what's gonna happen, there's
a lot of laboratories down there that are giving you
possible outcomes. And I immediately could foresee an election where
Alex Jones demands both candidates come on his show. Uh
in one of them says he's not going to because
Alex Jones is too weird, and the other one goes
(05:40):
and it's important and it swings some votes. Similar to
how Joe Rogan only had Bernie, you know, he would
only allow Bernie on his show, and he wouldn't take
the Buddha judge or whoever, so I remember that. I
mean really, the first thing I thought was like, oh,
this is like Joe Rogan interviewing uh Bernie Sanders. But
(06:02):
at the same time, this is not as cool. This
is just a zoom meeting, right, this is three hours
zoom meeting that doesn't have Like this guy doesn't have
a he doesn't have a He's only a politics guy, right,
he doesn't have like you know, Joe Brogan is actually
his brand is like a dumb guy who doesn't know
(06:23):
about politics. So it's interesting when he has Burnie on
because it's like, but this guy is already a failed,
busted candidate. I think Boris hasn't asked me for any advice,
but I'm thinking, no, on this, is there a cooler
YouTube he could go on? Like why doesn't boards be Like, no,
I don't go on the third Loser YouTube. I go
with this cool guy. Maybe it's you found or the show.
Maybe maybe it's this show. But I don't think speaking
(06:45):
in English for an hour is going to help him
to get more votes in Left Frond. Yeah, But at
the same time, I'm just I'm just like really shocked
about in in like the media, the old media, you know,
like the the newspapers and everyone in this in the
(07:06):
Julean media are like just giving everything to this guy.
You know, They're like, okay, you have a YouTube channel.
The last night a TV station connected to this YouTube
channel live and everyone just give up. I'm gonna saying
like the media didn't fight back to like get their respect.
They were like, okay, now you do wrong with it?
(07:28):
Just please. This is like an old entertainer trying to
sing a rock and roll song or something. It seems sad.
It's always sad. It's always sad. So let's see what happened.
I don't know if Bord is gonna go to this show,
but Cast it was last night and they treat him
like a king. Uh. Everyone thinks that there's just a
(07:48):
secret deal between Cast and pard C. Cast actually went
to They came to the US for four a hours. Uh.
During the election, wn't run off. In a weird move,
he met with Mark Garrubio. He was with some businessman's
and some people say they secretly he met with PARISSI
make a deal about how they're gonna go with the
(08:09):
with the votes. But I don't know. The election and
she is still going We're not going to know till
the eighteen. So yeah, we would not keep talking about
this in next episodes. Okay, we've got another presidential conflict
(08:34):
going on down there in Peru. We've talked about this
guy quite a bit, the man with the hat. What's
what's going on in the Peruvian election? So well, these
Day won finally. It was a very contended election and
Petro Castillo finally the president of Peru. He's been there
for a minute, and now he's getting impeach Yes, okay,
(08:56):
wait a second, so just to refill, refresh our listeners
of you haven't been found allowing Peruvian politics. I know
there are five or six of you out there who
haven't been. But Castillo a farmer, a teacher from a
fairly rural district. He wears a big farmer hat. That's
kind of his brand. He's a little bit of an outsider.
In a sort of shocker, he defeated the daughter of Fujimura,
(09:17):
former president slash dictator of Peru. There was some contention
over the election, but it seemed like Christillo won it
and he apparently fair and square. But now he's getting impeached. Well,
I thought right, according to Bloomberg, and this is I
think this is a first statement. Removing president is Peru
is the easier than almost anywhere else on earth. Okay,
(09:41):
Christio will be gone if eighty seven lawmakers a two
third majority, opposed him in impeachment vote. The former president
Bikara was in peached last year. Can you imagine like
you peached someone last year, next year you've beached someone again.
And nearly every proving president elected since has been impeached,
(10:05):
in prison or sought in criminal investigations. Wow, okay, cool.
So this is just a part of a circle of life,
the circle of life in in Brew and uh, well,
this is a problem. Is like they looks like the
system in Peru. It's it's really like the Congress have
a lot of power and it's a mass. They do
(10:26):
whatever they want, and they always have a lot of
indebta between one party and the other. And they also
they're like, okay, we need to destroy this guy. I
was part of his party a minute ago. Now I
can be on the other side. I don't care. They're
very flexible, uh to say at least and yeah, an
(10:46):
other impeachment in prew twists turns betrayals. Maybe I'm being stereotypical,
but it does sound a bit like the politics often
reflects telenovela, a lot of reversals, ups and downs, like
you need high, high stakes and drama to to check
(11:08):
politics in in South America, that's for sure. But I
should say we shouldn't see we can't just beat up
on Latin America here, because I was reading the other
day that every former president of South Korea has either
been in jail or is in jail at the moment,
So this isn't a unique to Latin America problem. Being
the president. There's a lot of opportunity for corruption when
you've got power. We all know that. And and you
(11:29):
know what, what else is very good South Korean self opreas. Yes,
that's a good point. Wherever the dramas are good, the
politics will follow the dramas because people they need it,
they love exactly. Okay, I'm kind a story from up
here in the United States, part of big Latin America. Um,
we've been hearing a lot. It's sort of slowly. It
(11:52):
began a sort of rumors, and then there'd be articles
about the rumors, and it's sort of popped fully to
the surface that like Kamala Harris, Okay, Joe Biden is
very very old if he runs for reelection, he'll be
eighty two or so, astronomically too old to be president. Uh.
And so who's who would maybe step in Kamala Harris
(12:12):
as a vice president? One after another, staffers from Kamala
Harris's office have been kind of quitting, which isn't what
you do if you're a political operator. And you thought
she was going to places, Stories started to leak that
she's a bully, that she doesn't do her homework. Then
the White House sort of said it's nothing but rumor.
But then Kamala Harris and Pete Boudaged were on a
(12:32):
sort of tour that seemed like it was designed to
repair a rift or or see which one or maybe
suggest a possible ticket for the next election. So it
just raised a question to me that maybe you have
some insight on the vice president. What is I mean,
how would first of all, how would Kamala Harris be
a good vice president? I don't know. It seems like
this is largely a media concoction, um uh. And they
(12:54):
just sort of make it up as they go along.
In the Telenovella style. But what's going on with vice
presidents in in American countries? I feel like I don't
hear about that quite as often as I do here
in the US. Well, I know different stories of I mean, Chile,
we doesn't. We don't have a vice president and we
never talked about it because it's not even a concept
(13:16):
for us. And once again, if the president die then
goes to Congress too, Yeah, we'll go to like a
Nancy Pelosi or something like that. You know, some person
in Congress will take the country. And uh yeah. The
vice press president also here is kind of like a
more of a it's it's it's just like it's a
(13:39):
TV character. No, they don't really do a lot, you know,
they don't have real power as far as they know.
So maybe that's the reason why we didn't copy that,
because I don't know. But the only thing I know is,
like right now in Chilling, the new election boardg is
kind of running with which would a doctor during the pandemic.
(14:02):
They give advice on TV. She's running kind of a
running mate. It's not rounding vice president, but she's in
every poster she's with him, and they yeah, they're running
as a team. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, she's probably gonna
be like the secretary of health or something. And I
think that's once again, in the perspective of the media
(14:24):
character it works. Then this is what I know about Venezuela,
and Venezuela is very tricky. So if someone is listening
and knows more about this, please let us know. I
know that they have six vice presidents. Okay, all right,
so they have six vice presidents and not all of
them are famous or there on the on the TV
(14:47):
or whatever. Some of them are just shady dudes that
live in Iran and run like an arcle state from outside.
It's once again, it's like over there. I think it's
more of a your vice president so you don't go
to jail kind of thing, gotcha? Okay, so now, yea,
someimes the vice president is like immune from prosecution or something. Yeah.
(15:09):
So actually the dirtiest guy that come of the vice
president for well, he's like, hey, dude, I need help.
I'm gonna go to jail. Okay, now your vice president.
Uh So, I think this the vice president system in
Latin America is very is very messy. Yeah, I mean,
it's maybe it's a weird institution in a way in
the United States. I mean, like I guess the sort
of we've had it for a long time, and it
(15:31):
seems in the age where the President of the United
States is like in command of a lot of like
nuclear missile submarines and stuff like, it might be pretty
important to have a guy or gal who's going to
take over immediately. There's a lot of sort of like
you know, designated survivor Tom Clancy kind of stuff that
involves weird scenarios where the vice president has to take
over right away. So clearly it's like a collective fantasy
(15:53):
of the United States. But if you don't have like
nuclear weapons at the disposal, it seems like you could
wait a couple of days a swell Congress figures out
who the next guy is. I don't know, like one
right now. I think when when when we we think
about the idea of a headless government, it's not that bad.
(16:15):
Maybe a week without anyone taking care of the country
will be refreshing. Uh. Sure, it looks like the system
hold itself, looks like the sititions keep going. You know,
the newspaper can be delivered and like the mails get
in time. I don't know. I think we'll be fine.
I mean, not the entire year, but maybe a week
(16:36):
of no precedent, a week a month, Yeah, you sort
it out. I mean, of course, in the in the
old when the founders of the U S started the
constitution that they had it that that the vice president
was the loser of the election. So it was like,
you know, it wasn't even like you pick your guy,
it was how how that works? Like the loser of
the election became the vice president. Yeah, he'd be the
(16:57):
vice president and so then you know if the president,
I guess his exact opposite would take over. They changed
that at some point they put in the running mates
and all that. So now you're kind of vote for
the world bonus, like I don't know, Joe Biden wins
and the vice president is Trump like something like that,
or think I think if they were playing under the
original rules of the U S Constitution, that's how it
(17:17):
would have gone down. Now we changed that, maybe for
the best, but who else, maybe we should go back
to that. Well flap I was worried that we wouldn't
have a fourth story here, and our shows called forward
(17:39):
from the South, so are would be justified to sue
us for mal practice if we failed to come through
with a fourth story. But luckily I've got one. A
headline for you. Cold Play the first great band to
play in Argentina after the pandemic. What they're sustainable tour
will be like, So it seems like bands are coming back.
(18:02):
They're coming it's happening. The world is opening up again.
They're gonna be big bands. I don't think even om Necron,
oh my Crown will stop this. It looks like it
looks like everyone is trying to ignore oh my crime
and the media and like the newspapers are like, hey, guys,
check this out, and I was like, no, no, yeah,
it's like all the hospitalizations in Europe. I mean, like,
(18:24):
just don't, don't do this to me. It's tough. You
can't just give the same story over and over again
in the media. You've got to even if that is
the truth, you've got to give us a twist or something.
And they tried it with the Delta, and that one
pretty far. And the narrating the truth not necessarily always
the same thing, and and and and this one have
a bad name, Like the marketing team really ruined this one.
(18:49):
I think O macron not a green name. Actually, it
was like an article in the New York Times was like,
how you said O my crons? Like I don't want
to say it. Don't teach me how to say it, right. Um. Well,
a friend of mine pointed out to me a somewhat
mind blowing thing that hadn't occurred to me. Oh micron small, oh,
oh mega big. Oh there's two letters in Greek. Yeah.
(19:11):
So it's like it's like how the US has double you,
you know, like it's just a description of the letter
oh micron. But don't start going around saying oh micron,
because no one will respect to you. I've discovered. Yeah. Um.
But going back to concerts and life events, I mean,
you can't stop them anymore. I think we we are
(19:33):
the other side. No one's going to go back to
the I think the only way, and this is my
my theory, the only way that the world will go
back to craziness. If there's a mutation of the virus
where kids die, yes, that will be a game changer.
But if it's not like that, I think, will we
go with oh macron macron and no one will care?
(19:57):
I would think by now, like there would be a like,
if they really wanted to scare you, there'd be a
famous kid who died of COVID and they you'd see
the kids picture and stuff, and that we haven't achieved that.
Maybe I've missed it, but I'm pretty happened media consumer,
and I've never heard of like a famous case of
a childhooded of COVID. And I am certain that there
there may be a kid who died of COVID. I
(20:18):
don't know, but um, it just hasn't broken through as
like a thing that we're fixating on. And I agree
with you. Until that happens, we're just gonna be like whatever.
But now, but now, going back to what this story
is about, why cold Play, Why when you have freedom
and you finally can't go back to live events, you're
(20:40):
getting these guys who are like so into colors. Why
they're so obsessed with colors and every health of colors. Yeah,
I mean colors are very basic stuff. You know, we've
seen colors before, so yeah, they're really obsessed with colors.
You know. It's funny because it's like I kind of
agree with you, and I wouldn't call myself exactly a
cold Play fan, but if we're gonna have like the
(21:02):
first huge concert, it does have to be on a
certain level of big and just you know, everybody there
can get with it. And I feel like cold Play
one of the few bands it's like YouTube cold Play,
like if they're your favorite band, that's weird. But everybody
there's nobody who's like I guess there's some snobs who
(21:23):
don't like cold Play, but it's fine. Whatever. They're gonna
play clocks and Yellow and you'll have a good time.
They're professionals. They're professionals. That's that's why they are. They
are professionals. Yeah, I I was. I was checking the
other day other bands they're they're coming, and I read
about that. Maroon five h still have an ongoing fight
(21:49):
with Latin America. A couple of years to go. Maroon
five perform at the festival and they put so little
energy and looks like they don't even know that they
were being live stream so they they just did like
the Cheets show possible. They just didn't even try and
(22:11):
live stream all over Latin America. And since then, their
their Instagram account, every picture has been bombarded by kids
tell them to go to hell because they didn't put
it off energy in a concert in Latin America. I'm saying, wow,
well that sucks, but I hope they learned their lesson
not to be half asking it and to find out
(22:33):
who's watching Come on Marine five. That's lame, that's the flips.
I feel like every band, any musician, their Instagram is
just comments of people saying come to Brazil. No now,
it's like, don't come too. If you hit that, don't
come to Brazil level, you've fallen far, you're falling far.
And uh yeah, I think I think right now you
(22:54):
can check Maroon five social media and you will see
some messages in Spanish tell them to go to you
screwed up when you've got messages in Spanish on your
Instagram telling you to go to hell wealth translate to
against me. I think we did a pretty good round
up once again of the events and news and currents
(23:16):
of big Latin America. We'll be back because we've got
to follow this Chilean election and a million other things
going on. Hit us up on Twitter, Gmail, Uh four
from the South is our name, and let us know
what you want to hear about in your world episode.
We'll be like five presidents of Peru from now. That's
how that's how the time is in Peru. I took
(23:40):
a nap. It was like two presidents of Peru. I
feel so refreshed. We're gonna drive to Grandma's house. It
will be a whole president of Peruvian presidency. So bring
a book. Okay, talk soon, Bye bye. Four From the
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