This week on 4 from the South: a new trend followed by hipsters in Tulum: smoking toad venom, El Salvador's self-proclaimed dictator, Can Peronism save your sex life?, and a Chilean man running from justice in the University of Alabama.
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We're back. Hold on nuts. Wherever you are, it is
four from the South. I'm Steve Healey. I'm here with
my good friend for Brizzio Capano. How are you everyone?
When as when as ds when Buen Torres. Welcome to
the show where You've got a good episode today This
on this show always we bring you four stories from
Big Latin America, which extends from somewhere around Canada all
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the way to Antarctica. Today we're gonna be talking about
hipster's smoking toad venom in the in the town of Tuloom.
We're gonna talk about We're gonna return once again to
one of our favorite characters, El Salvador's hipster Twitter Bitcoin dictator.
We're gonna talk about a remark in Spanish about whether
pair on Ese m the political philosophy of Argentina will
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be good for your sexual life. We're gonna get into
detail on that. And we're also going to talk about
a man from Chile who's trying to escape justice by
fleeing to the University of Alabama. Interesting plan, So fab hope,
I'm gonad this off today. You're ready to go? I
trust I can feel the enthusiasm fab. This one comes
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from to us from Vice magazine. The headline and the headline,
Yeah you've heard of Vice. You know. They're the guys
running around causing trouble and filming people eating snakes and stuff.
And this time they've got a headline. The headline was
tourists are now smoking toad venom in Mexico's hipster town
of Toloom. The articles by Matha Buzzby. Shout out to him.
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Always gonna give credit to these guys out there getting
the story on toad venom into Loom. I imagine pitching
to your editor. I'm going I hear about people doing
a crazy drug down in Mexico. I need five thousand
dollars so I can go check it out. Yeah, just
grab a handful of cash from the big Vice pile
and off you go. Well, anyway, I guess I've been
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to Tuloom. If you've been to Tulum, pap it's a
town on Yeah, it seems like because we're hipsters, of
course we had to go there. Man. I thought it
was part of her Yeah, it was great. I have
fun there, and it was it was a little bit
of annoying people, but it wasn't that bad, I say
expected to be to be honest, Sure, you're chilling on
the beach. There's there's grades of it from extremely fancy
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to like barefoot backpackers sleeping in hammocks, but it's generally
a hipster vibe. It's a pretty narrow stretch of land,
sort of like there's basically one road that runs along
the beach and then there's jungle on one side and
beach on the other side. The beaches covered with seaweed. Right,
that was my experience. Yeah, they had these guys. I
was staying at a nice place and they had these
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guys raking all day, just raking up the seaweed, and
then just more seaweed came in. It was the closest
job I've ever seen to Like sisipis rolling that rock
up hill is the kind of place where people going like, yeah,
I want to live here, and some people I've done it.
You know. You can see people who are like they
don't supposed to be there and they're there forever. Yeah.
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And another thing happened to me is like when I
went there, it was kind of like country intuitive. I
was trying to watch a soccer game and it was impossible.
I tried like five different places no one care about
like soccer or normal stuff, you know, so it was
like the only one, like, hey, shut down. I don't
know if I'm by weakend and just please with the
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soccer game. But the hipsters, the American hipster is kind
of adopted soccer. So I'm surprised you couldn't find anybody.
What game are you trying to watch now? I was
trying to watch a minor game of Chile between I mean,
I think it was Chili Peru or something like. They
didn't not that hips. They had United States against Germany
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or something. I bet it would have been on because
that's what the hipsters love. Well. Anyway, the hipsters are
not having enough fun like drinking Margarita's and going to
the beach, so they've taken it to the next level.
They're smoking the venom of the It's called the buffo
al various toad, which has inside it uh five M
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E O d M T d M T. You smoke it,
it's like a rocket ride out of your body. It's gone. Now.
The thing about d M T I always thought was
that it exists everywhere. I think it's in most plants
and stuff. But I guess it's particularly available on the
the secretion of this toad, this poor toad. By the way,
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this toad lives over there. It's the Colorado rumber Signoran
desert toad, just trying to make it in the desert,
just looking for water. And some guy grabs it and
rubs all its uh secretions off and makes it into
a drug. And hipsters are smoking this. Now what do
we think of this? Fab Well, uh, do you ever
smoke d MT? Smoked d MT? But I did have
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d M T in the form of ayahuasca. So I
feel like I'm part of the problem here. Like I
was a hepster going to South America experiencing these weird things.
But to me, toad venom a bridge too far. You know,
you gotta plant is one thing, But a toad, I
don't know. I was. I was. I was in a
party and it was not a party. It was like
gathering of five people and because you can't do that
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in a party, to be honest, it's more like, yeah,
like let's try to like, you know, find God and
find meaning and that what was this people that they
were smoking this? And I was like, I'm not I'm
not gonna do it, and they were all having like
amazing experiences while I was just I mean drinking I
don't know, coca cola and one of them, one of
them starts smoking this and I was like, oh, this
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ship smells so bad. And it smells really bad. That's
the first thing is like it smells like, uh, I
don't know, like you're in a farm, doesn't smell it
doesn't smell great. And saying I want to say, like, um,
I know about it. I know about this because I
have a friend. She's a great comic, Alexi Danda. She's
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a super funny comedian. You can follow her, and she
told me about this long time ago. So MIXI has
been doing this for a long time and now Americans
are there to ruin it. We're going to ruin it
like we do everything. The list of people. By the way,
in this article, the guy who runs the resort, his
name is Hyatta Luoma. He says, if the client doesn't
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lose the notion of time and space completely, I consider
it too low a dose. So he's running a resort
for this, and they're listing some of the celebrities who
have enjoyed the toad venom Many attest to the life changing, illuminating,
and breakthrough trips, including here's the list of people. US
President Joe Biden's son Hunter, former boxer Mike Tyson, Yeah,
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former boxer Mike Tyson, and TV personality Christina Hack. I
had to look up Christina Hack. I guess she hosts
the show an HDTV where she like fixes houses or
some thing and maybe toad venom. Hey, if it gives
you some cool insights into how to fix your house,
that could be great. I mean, I think everything that
hunted by then have try Ah should be legal. He's
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he goes too far. He went too far with this,
He's gone too far with these things. I think. You know,
if you're a vegan, are you allowed to smoke toad venom? Or?
Is that? I don't think so. It's the same as
cheese or milk or something. Right, you're taking something from
your animal that it doesn't want to give you. And
I think I remember like someone saying that it comes
from like their their back. It's like in the back
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of the toad, like they just ratch it. You know this,
it's not It's not a nice thing to do to
a little animal. No, it's rude. To do to a toad.
So I think officially our podcast position is curious but
negative on smoking toad venom for now. But listeners, if
you've smoked toad venom, if you have insights, you can
watch me toe for from the South on Twitter and
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at Gmail. Okay, we've got another one one of our
favorite characters, Uh Boo Kelly. His name is he's the
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guy running. Yeah, we called him the President and sometimes
we we even we were nervous about calling him the
Dictator of El Salvador because you know, it's it's hard
to call somebody a dictator. You want to make sure
that you're getting your facts right, you know, if he's
just being an honest broker and following the constitution whatever.
But over this week, apparently the term Dictator of El
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Salvador was trending on Twitter, and so I'm kind of
an ironic wink. This guy Boo Kelly, he changed his Twitter,
his own Twitter handled to dictator of El Salvador. Wow,
that's the ultimate move for a dictator, you know, start
making fun of dictatorship. If when you say like worse,
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I'm not I mean guys like I just look look
at look at the jug I'm growning right now on
Twitter like Okay, I'm gonna change my hand. Look, come on,
and no one's laughing. We're gonna kill all of you
jail right now. Yeah. I saw a quote from him
where he said something like, hey, if I were a dictator,
I would shoot all these people, not just fire them.
And I felt like that was kind of a veiled threat,
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you know, like, well, that's exactly what Maduro always said
in Venezuela. He's always like, oh, but you guys are
saying that you hate me, and you guys are not dead,
So I'm not that bad. I'm a great guy. Yeah. Um.
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And I was reading this weekend about Gillian. It was
like everyone's loved this guy so much and he's so
cool and young and beat cunning ship. But he's against
the abortion and same stage marriage in you know soul
he's very religious. Oh really yeah, what way? What religion?
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I mean? I think like he's very conservative in like
the okay, no sex same same same sex marriage or
you know know, any any kind of abortion. Um. So
I don't know. This guy is always like showing he's
slowly showing his true phase, I think every month. But
I think in this world. You can be like, yeah, here,
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you guys have bitcoins and Dutch coins and at the
same time no books, and everyone will be like, oh,
it's still kind of cool. You know, we're cool. You
know we didn't have books before, and now at least
we're part of some kind of movement. I think that, um,
the bigger story here to me is like irony and
sort of like playing along, going with the joke. I
guess Trump was one of the great pioneers of this,
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but like saying the opposite, saying leaning into the joke
of what you are. That's becoming a very powerful tool
for politicians, and it's a little hard for It's kind
of like a cheap code because the newspapers and the
sort of political journalists are not prepared to discuss what
something like this might mean. I used to taking people literally, yes,
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and the irony is just kind of a game breaker.
Teenagers discovered this a long time ago to mess with
their parents, and now I think politicians are discovering it
to mess with the kind of people that usually regulate
or keep some kind of eye on politicians. Yeah, and
and they were always like, you can I mean, you
can always see like it's a joke. It's a joke.
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It's just I'm a pretend dictator. I'm not a real dictator.
I'm a pretend dictator. Story. Sorry, yeah I was. I
was just gonna say this reminds me of a story
of a friend of mine who was sort of ironically
be rating the assistant at a TV show he worked
on in it kind of a joke way, but also
he was really mad and another writer that worked there
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told him, remember your pretend Hollywood asshole, not a real one.
I mean, that's how it works. I also like this
reminds me of a Pinochet quote that there was an
interview and they asked him like a they found human bodies,
like three people, three human bodies in a in a
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hole in the ground. I mean it's telling like, hey, this,
this is like your government is killing these people. And
he answered, oh, that sounds good economy and it's like
how economical like something like that, and you're like, oh,
so these people have since the humor, you know, so
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a really dark one, the thin line of like making
jokes and tried to be funny. It's not isn't there.
It's always been there. Yeah, Yeah, I think now they
used to say, now was actually pretty funny, and then
people would think, oh, it was fine. I was just
choking around with him, and then they end up like
sent out to dig ditches in Mongolia or something. Um,
so just listen here. Comedy comedy be warned of. You know,
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it used to be that the Tater you could tell
who he was because he wore a big uniform with
a ton of medals on it and he was watching
a parade of tanks go by. But now he's on
Twitter and he's treating bitcoins. You gotta watch out. There's
a new the Dictator two point Oh, we we're gonna
need to keep our eye on. Yeah, it's more he's nicer. Okay,
we've got another story for you, and this is from
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um Argentina. Fab You're gonna have to help me out
with this one. I learned about it in the Economists.
They quoted in Argentinian politician. They just had their primary
in Argentina, which is kind of like in Argentina, they
have like a preview election, which is the primary, and
then they have the regular totally crazy and his mandatory
you have to vote in the primary, which is massively
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change American politics. I think anyway. A woman named Victoria
Tolosa pas she is sort of supporting the ruling party,
and she had a quote. It was translated for me
as in paroh is um the philosophy she has, the
political side she's on in parahi is um, you always
get laid and people like you know, she probably thought
this was cute and funny thing to say, but people
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didn't like it and her party suffered a defeat at
the polls. But I was hoping you could walk me
through a little bit the linguistic meanings here, what's going on?
So yeah, I was I was looking for this quote
and uh and it's first of all, it's true. This
is a true story. Uh. And this was she she
was being asked. Uh, it was like a Facebook um
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kind of a conference that she was doing. So a
lot of people were asking her questions and she trying
to be cool and nice. You know, young. Is she
on video or she likes me it's a video? Yeah?
And she she she was like according to this news
She was like, oh, um, a lot of young people
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love our party. You know, the real strongest part of
our party. It's a it's young, you know. And uh,
then someone asked him, like one of the hosts is like,
so people young, like when a dance, when to have sex?
When people are going to be able to go back
to have sex? I mean because of the condemning, there
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was a lot of restrictions. There was no parties. And
she answered it's huge because in Baron is mum, you
always get laid. But she said in better name, that
is a very Argentina wait to say got a chill.
It's a very Argentina way to say have sexy. Uh so, yeah,
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it's it's it's all true. And she was like talking
about like she was being asked about, Oh okay, when
people are gonna be able to like actually I'm listening
to the video right now. Sorry, um in yeah, she
was in a very young setting. If you watch the conference,
like she was part of like kind of like a
TV show on YouTube, a chill kind of like talk
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show chill format. It looks like she's on like one
of those British style panel show with a couple of
guys or like a radio show kind of thing. Like
she's not killing a four love to say she's trying
to be chill. I mean even like she's not saying
a formal speech and this is like very chill and
like having fun. And then she said this, she's right.
I think she have a point here, tell me more.
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I don't know. I feel like Argentina always been like
this crazy fun place. Uh and people always very liberal
with with with their buddies and like, you know, it's
like sex, it's not that a big deal. Like in
Chile she was more conservative. And I mean I can
feel that during pardi Ism there was a lot of sex. Okay,
the old these years Argentina here, I don't but a
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couple of thoughts. I love this attitude for a politician,
Like it's amazing that no politicians have tried this before.
I haven't heard a Democrat or a Republicans say like
we're the sexier party. You're gonna have you have more
sex when we're in charge, like and that's a powerful
argument that would break through, and I really haven't heard it.
Another thought I had though in English, like almost any
way you would say that, possibly because of sort of
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underlying misogynistic ideas in the language, but saying like you're
always gonna get late, it's probably the most gentle way.
But saying like you're gonna get screwed, or you're like,
there's a way where the saying could mean like you're
it would have a double meaning of like we're gonna
stick it. You know, it's not going to be right.
So I was just wondering if that came through in
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Spanish too, or if this is like if Spanish has
more beautiful ways of saying, uh, you're gonna have sex,
that that they're sort of gender positive. No, I'm pretty
sure that someone doing this joker pretty into they're like, yeah,
it buries them already. I know that because I mean,
look at my business. But at the same time, I
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think she means like I mean, she mean a woman
telling the saying this that helps the vote. You know,
maybe if they do it will be like like you're
gonna add a little later and get out of here.
And by the way, you made me think because I
think if Trump have said that at some point, yeah,
I don't think if the base will be happy because
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I think He's base is very scared of sex. It's
like you, I mean on internet drolls, then maybe are
you going to have more sex? Will be like oh really,
ter for Chan mafia would be terrified, very I mean,
they would say like, yes, exactly what we want, and
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then inside me like I'm not sure, but you know,
I wish the Trump had sech amount this because the
sort of Brooklyn uh you know, protester anti Trump people
would have immediately their immediate reaction be like, oh yeah,
we'll show you. And then there would have been a
sexual explosion just as an act of protest to Trump,
which could have benefited a lot of people. I don't know,
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it could have changed the whole game. So maybe Trump
was wisely steered clear of this. And for pause, I
think it was an error, right she this was this
It broke through enough that I heard about in an
English magazine, The Economist, which doesn't think very highly of
what's going on in Argentina. No, and and and by
the way, like there's a war going on right now
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between the president Alberto Fernandez and the vice president Christina Fernandez.
And at the beginning of this relationship, because they always
have a tense relationship. By the way, um, the story
is like when Christina she was the president, she was
very shady, you know, and a lot of people think
that she also like murdered someone. I mean, there's no
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any proof of that, but like a lot of people
think that way and this this this is the guy
who's the president right now. He was very hesitant about,
you know, work with her, and he was part of
the same party, but like he was like one of
the first to criticize her. So then when because he
was a nobody, to be honest, like the prisoner Argentina
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was not like an important politician at the time. Uh,
but then they needed someone looks fresh and it was
kind of like out of the raidar and they have
a meeting with Christina Fernandez and they kind of like
make a deal like Okay, I'm going to be the president,
you're gonna be the vice president. We're gonna make this work.
And it was like peaceful time still now because now
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everyone's blaming each other, like is your fall, You're not
strong enough? And well he also did this party um
Fernandez Alberto the president did this little gathering during COVID
and everyone said hating him. So Christina occasion kind of
like joined that group of criticizing this guy. So yeah,
there's a war right now between president and vice president
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ongoing in Argentina. Got it a shaky alliance, which you
know that can be that can lead to sexy situations.
So maybe she's right, you know, the reading about Argentina,
Like it's something that I think we here in the
United States, like, don't there's always an economic crisis going
on in Argentina. That's beyond the thing, like inflation is
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at fifty unemployment is double. Just like it's a wonder
that people are getting up and going to work in Argentina.
You know, it would if that happened in the United States,
there'll be riots in the streets, would be crazy. And yeah,
somehow it does seem to function and people are doing
their thing and it's just life now in Argentina. I
think it's been so long without a crazy The funny
thing I mean, or are not funny but crazy, is
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that even when like now they lose a lot of votes,
these people go like for a long time, they belove it,
not know for like their economical respond more for like
their character. The character. Yes, you know, you can have
like a really huge crasis and be like charismatic enough
and smart enough to like play with the tools of
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the country and make it work, you know, which true.
I get the sense in the United States, politicians, especially
at the presidential level sort of held responsible for the economy,
but it seems like Argentina's Everyone accepts that Argentina's economy
is some crazy monster up down left right. They are
forty five billion dollars to the I m F. I mean,
it's just it's it's like if you think they have
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the enemy of the it seems like when you do,
you make your enemy and something some force from outside
the country. You're like, okay, I can't do anything, man, Like,
it's not my fault. They're trying to, like, you know,
make us pay this debt, and it's impossible. So um
and I don't remember who was the first one to
say this, but like they decided to, like, we're not
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gonna pay for this debt anymore. Why should you know
what what's gonna happens? The debt I didn't do. If
I'm a thirty year old Argentinian guy, it's like I
I didn't get dollars from Why am I going to
suffer to pay it back? It doesn't make sense. Go
get the guys who did it. They're probably well, okay,
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we have to wrap up, of course, with the story
from Chile. What have you got for worlds? What's going
on in your beautiful, wonderful narrow country. So, guys, it's
been a crazy couple of months. Uh, if you if
you guys are thising this podcast in the last month,
just in the last month, one of the guys who
was writing the convention for to be I mean for
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the next Constitution of Chile fake his cancer. He's supposed
to have cancer. He won't because you have cancer. And
then this week we found out that he has syphilis.
Oh okay, so he was it was syphilis. He just
lied about what it was. Yeah, but I mean, I
think cancer, it's it's it's big worse than syphilis totally.
(23:38):
In the government help you if you have syphilis, also
help if you have cancers. Is not the same amount
of money, but like if you have syphilis, you'll you'll
be fine, you know. Uh. So his character was built
in this idea of like he was was more of like,
I don't know, cancer fighter, trying to exactly exactly. And
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then he was what you said he had cancer? Did
he know, like did he actually have syphilis? And then
he knew he had something. He just made a cancer
because that's better or was he not even sick yet?
He just later he lied about having cancer and then
he got syphilis. No, I think I think this story
is like he had syphilis and he was kind of
ashamed of this, sure, and he just decided to go
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with cancer. But the problem with that is, like I mean,
I understand that you can fake it and be like
a lie, and you know, everyone come in mistakes, but
he was like writing a blog about cancer. He had
like a blog with like chemo thirty six the pain.
You know, yeah, that's a lot of research. Yes, yes,
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one of the biggest lie on your blog. No, you
don't lie in blogs. And he also, like I think
one of the mistakes was the numbers. He he'd be like, oh,
I have this debt on chemos and it was like, oh,
chemos are not that expense. You know, he inflated the
price of his fake chemo. Wow. Yeah. Well so then
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a couple of days before that, the same political movement
of this guy they found out like he has they
run with a presidential candidate called Diegon Callao, and they
found out like more than sixty percent of his signatures
to be to run for president. Because if you're independent
in Chile, you have to get a bunch of signatures
to run. We're fake, we're from Manori. And Thenari was death. Okay.
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Um so the old day we keep scratching like people
from you know politics, and then yesterday, I mean we
used to have seven people running for president. Now we're
like going to five probably. Um. So this week they
found out that one of the candidates who is kind
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of like a libertarian kind of I mean he approached
to the idea of government with like I'm outside of
the political spectrum. You know, I don't care for the people.
But like if you read his idea as a more
like a libertarian kind of character. And he was a
guy to give you advice on TV about what to
do with your money. H So that that was his platform.
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You know, I help you with their money. I can
make your money. I give me a president. Um. And
then uh, well he was a teacher at the University
of Alabama. Uh, he decided economics or something. He decided
to run again as a president of Chilling this election.
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The last time he ran four years ago, he got
not bad at all. He came up for yeah, a player.
So he's running again and he's I mean I was
checking his social media because his candidacy was kind of weird.
He don't give any interviews. I mean we're two months
from the election. You know someone from the is he
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in Alabama? Or where is he? Yes? You have a
touch for three years. Okay. So this guy was running
an online campaign. I mean there's a video, there's a
video like he's he's the supporters goes to Uh, you
have to do a whole ritual to like get into
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the candidates. You have to go to like the set avail.
That is the place where like they approved the signatures
and approved that you're you're you're going to be the canadidate.
And there's people with an iPhone and he, you know,
rooting for a guy who isn't zoom like, yeah, I'm
going to be the president of this country. Okay. And
so if you watch you social media, you can see
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that the trend of its audience starting like hey, when
are you coming? The campaign is kind of down here
six miles away before you are. And he keeps saying like,
in this world, we do we do zoom for everything,
do zoom for classes? We do soon with their kids? True? Yes, yeah,
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but what what what he is not doing classes in
the University of Alabama. Maybe center yourself geographically in the
place where you're trying to be the president and not
where in your work, right. Okay, So this controversy keep going,
and he was making this video saying like, um oh,
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there's a debate coming up next week, the first presidential debate,
and he was invited, and he's like like, yeah, of
course through zoom and the rest of the kind of
is like, that's not fair. We're gonna be there. You know,
this guy's gonna have the chance to be in another place.
We don't know who's there. Maybe they're gonna be like,
you know, throwing him numbers behind cameras he can have
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the cheats right in front of him exactly, just like
make him come here and you know, we'll debate. Um.
And he was like this censorship, they're trying to destroy.
The media hates me. They're doing this because it's like
the media is shady and they don't want me to
tell the truth of power to power blah blah blah uh.
And yesterday they find out he have haven't paid for
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the money to his for his kids. Okay, maybe that's
child support or alimony depending on it, for your kids. Okay,
So he's he shows up in Chili. He's in trouble
in Chile. We called them like, oh that's nice. Part payments. Yeah, yeah,
(29:33):
because he's like a father who's now to show up
is like heartful dad, heartful payments. Okay, Wow, that's it's
pretty brutal to put that in a to put heart
stuff in the form of money, but I kind of
like it. Well, yeah, and he clearly haven't paid for years.
He and the story run by can in Chile is
(29:57):
that if he stepped on Chile like he arrived on
a plane, he could be taken to jail immediately. Got you.
That does the reason why he was running the a
Zume campaign stick in Alabama. Hang out, Maybe you get
lucky and then if he becomes what if he had
become president, still have the pain. He's gonna be the
zoom resident of Chile. You know. I was just what
(30:18):
I was thinking, is it is football season up here Alabama.
That's a pretty big deal. Maybe he didn't want to
miss that. That makes sense. That makes more sense than
anything else you've said. And he called the University of
Alabama and he still love him. I was like, yeah,
he hasn't worked here since two thousand fifteen. Another twist.
So he's avoiding Chile for his fake job in Alabama. Wow, okay,
(30:40):
it seems like good work. But Chilean journalists for uncovering
all this, By the way, he dismissed, I mean he
he changed he's LinkedIn, Like, oh no, I was never
in the right. I meant to get to my LinkedIn
and explained that one. Sorry about that. Okay, moment of thinking, like,
(31:01):
damn it my LinkedIn. That's so rude of me. Well,
it is like you you might not get to changing
your linked until you know, five or six years after
you change jobs. You never know you're running for president.
You're very preoccupied. Linkedn' is not your number one thing. Yeah,
you're right, no one is chaking them that. But well,
this is another candidate. Was he's still in the ballot.
(31:21):
You know, he's still in the ballot right now, and
I think he's hact like he's not going to be
in the ballot. So maybe he can be the first
zoom president. Why you should interview a couple of his
voters and see how they the die hard loyalists who
still think he's the guy for the job. I'm sure
there's not a lot of out there. Well, guys, toad
Venom getting laid relative to politics, irony, Twitter presidents and
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on this show always we bring you four stories from
Big Latin America, which extends from somewhere around Canada all
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the way to Antarctica. Today we're gonna be talking about
hipster's smoking toad venom in the in the town of Tuloom.
We're gonna talk about We're gonna return once again to
one of our favorite characters, El Salvador's hipster Twitter Bitcoin dictator.
We're gonna talk about a remark in Spanish about whether
pair on Ese m the political philosophy of Argentina will
(01:03):
be good for your sexual life. We're gonna get into
detail on that. And we're also going to talk about
a man from Chile who's trying to escape justice by
fleeing to the University of Alabama. Interesting plan, So fab hope,
I'm gonad this off today. You're ready to go? I
trust I can feel the enthusiasm fab. This one comes
(01:24):
from to us from Vice magazine. The headline and the headline,
Yeah you've heard of Vice. You know. They're the guys
running around causing trouble and filming people eating snakes and stuff.
And this time they've got a headline. The headline was
tourists are now smoking toad venom in Mexico's hipster town
of Toloom. The articles by Matha Buzzby. Shout out to him.
(01:45):
Always gonna give credit to these guys out there getting
the story on toad venom into Loom. I imagine pitching
to your editor. I'm going I hear about people doing
a crazy drug down in Mexico. I need five thousand
dollars so I can go check it out. Yeah, just
grab a handful of cash from the big Vice pile
and off you go. Well, anyway, I guess I've been
(02:06):
to Tuloom. If you've been to Tulum, pap it's a
town on Yeah, it seems like because we're hipsters, of
course we had to go there. Man. I thought it
was part of her Yeah, it was great. I have
fun there, and it was it was a little bit
of annoying people, but it wasn't that bad, I say
expected to be to be honest, Sure, you're chilling on
the beach. There's there's grades of it from extremely fancy
(02:29):
to like barefoot backpackers sleeping in hammocks, but it's generally
a hipster vibe. It's a pretty narrow stretch of land,
sort of like there's basically one road that runs along
the beach and then there's jungle on one side and
beach on the other side. The beaches covered with seaweed. Right,
that was my experience. Yeah, they had these guys. I
was staying at a nice place and they had these
(02:50):
guys raking all day, just raking up the seaweed, and
then just more seaweed came in. It was the closest
job I've ever seen to Like sisipis rolling that rock
up hill is the kind of place where people going like, yeah,
I want to live here, and some people I've done it.
You know. You can see people who are like they
don't supposed to be there and they're there forever. Yeah.
(03:10):
And another thing happened to me is like when I
went there, it was kind of like country intuitive. I
was trying to watch a soccer game and it was impossible.
I tried like five different places no one care about
like soccer or normal stuff, you know, so it was
like the only one, like, hey, shut down. I don't
know if I'm by weakend and just please with the
(03:33):
soccer game. But the hipsters, the American hipster is kind
of adopted soccer. So I'm surprised you couldn't find anybody.
What game are you trying to watch now? I was
trying to watch a minor game of Chile between I mean,
I think it was Chili Peru or something like. They
didn't not that hips. They had United States against Germany
(03:55):
or something. I bet it would have been on because
that's what the hipsters love. Well. Anyway, the hipsters are
not having enough fun like drinking Margarita's and going to
the beach, so they've taken it to the next level.
They're smoking the venom of the It's called the buffo
al various toad, which has inside it uh five M
(04:15):
E O d M T d M T. You smoke it,
it's like a rocket ride out of your body. It's gone. Now.
The thing about d M T I always thought was
that it exists everywhere. I think it's in most plants
and stuff. But I guess it's particularly available on the
the secretion of this toad, this poor toad. By the way,
(04:37):
this toad lives over there. It's the Colorado rumber Signoran
desert toad, just trying to make it in the desert,
just looking for water. And some guy grabs it and
rubs all its uh secretions off and makes it into
a drug. And hipsters are smoking this. Now what do
we think of this? Fab Well, uh, do you ever
smoke d MT? Smoked d MT? But I did have
(05:02):
d M T in the form of ayahuasca. So I
feel like I'm part of the problem here. Like I
was a hepster going to South America experiencing these weird things.
But to me, toad venom a bridge too far. You know,
you gotta plant is one thing, But a toad, I
don't know. I was. I was. I was in a
party and it was not a party. It was like
gathering of five people and because you can't do that
(05:23):
in a party, to be honest, it's more like, yeah,
like let's try to like, you know, find God and
find meaning and that what was this people that they
were smoking this? And I was like, I'm not I'm
not gonna do it, and they were all having like
amazing experiences while I was just I mean drinking I
don't know, coca cola and one of them, one of
them starts smoking this and I was like, oh, this
(05:46):
ship smells so bad. And it smells really bad. That's
the first thing is like it smells like, uh, I
don't know, like you're in a farm, doesn't smell it
doesn't smell great. And saying I want to say, like, um,
I know about it. I know about this because I
have a friend. She's a great comic, Alexi Danda. She's
(06:07):
a super funny comedian. You can follow her, and she
told me about this long time ago. So MIXI has
been doing this for a long time and now Americans
are there to ruin it. We're going to ruin it
like we do everything. The list of people. By the way,
in this article, the guy who runs the resort, his
name is Hyatta Luoma. He says, if the client doesn't
(06:29):
lose the notion of time and space completely, I consider
it too low a dose. So he's running a resort
for this, and they're listing some of the celebrities who
have enjoyed the toad venom Many attest to the life changing, illuminating,
and breakthrough trips, including here's the list of people. US
President Joe Biden's son Hunter, former boxer Mike Tyson, Yeah,
(06:51):
former boxer Mike Tyson, and TV personality Christina Hack. I
had to look up Christina Hack. I guess she hosts
the show an HDTV where she like fixes houses or
some thing and maybe toad venom. Hey, if it gives
you some cool insights into how to fix your house,
that could be great. I mean, I think everything that
hunted by then have try Ah should be legal. He's
(07:15):
he goes too far. He went too far with this,
He's gone too far with these things. I think. You know,
if you're a vegan, are you allowed to smoke toad venom? Or?
Is that? I don't think so. It's the same as
cheese or milk or something. Right, you're taking something from
your animal that it doesn't want to give you. And
I think I remember like someone saying that it comes
from like their their back. It's like in the back
(07:37):
of the toad, like they just ratch it. You know this,
it's not It's not a nice thing to do to
a little animal. No, it's rude. To do to a toad.
So I think officially our podcast position is curious but
negative on smoking toad venom for now. But listeners, if
you've smoked toad venom, if you have insights, you can
watch me toe for from the South on Twitter and
(07:57):
at Gmail. Okay, we've got another one one of our
favorite characters, Uh Boo Kelly. His name is he's the
(08:18):
guy running. Yeah, we called him the President and sometimes
we we even we were nervous about calling him the
Dictator of El Salvador because you know, it's it's hard
to call somebody a dictator. You want to make sure
that you're getting your facts right, you know, if he's
just being an honest broker and following the constitution whatever.
But over this week, apparently the term Dictator of El
(08:39):
Salvador was trending on Twitter, and so I'm kind of
an ironic wink. This guy Boo Kelly, he changed his Twitter,
his own Twitter handled to dictator of El Salvador. Wow,
that's the ultimate move for a dictator, you know, start
making fun of dictatorship. If when you say like worse,
(09:00):
I'm not I mean guys like I just look look
at look at the jug I'm growning right now on
Twitter like Okay, I'm gonna change my hand. Look, come on,
and no one's laughing. We're gonna kill all of you
jail right now. Yeah. I saw a quote from him
where he said something like, hey, if I were a dictator,
I would shoot all these people, not just fire them.
And I felt like that was kind of a veiled threat,
(09:22):
you know, like, well, that's exactly what Maduro always said
in Venezuela. He's always like, oh, but you guys are
saying that you hate me, and you guys are not dead,
So I'm not that bad. I'm a great guy. Yeah. Um.
(09:43):
And I was reading this weekend about Gillian. It was
like everyone's loved this guy so much and he's so
cool and young and beat cunning ship. But he's against
the abortion and same stage marriage in you know soul
he's very religious. Oh really yeah, what way? What religion?
(10:06):
I mean? I think like he's very conservative in like
the okay, no sex same same same sex marriage or
you know know, any any kind of abortion. Um. So
I don't know. This guy is always like showing he's
slowly showing his true phase, I think every month. But
I think in this world. You can be like, yeah, here,
(10:26):
you guys have bitcoins and Dutch coins and at the
same time no books, and everyone will be like, oh,
it's still kind of cool. You know, we're cool. You
know we didn't have books before, and now at least
we're part of some kind of movement. I think that, um,
the bigger story here to me is like irony and
sort of like playing along, going with the joke. I
guess Trump was one of the great pioneers of this,
(10:48):
but like saying the opposite, saying leaning into the joke
of what you are. That's becoming a very powerful tool
for politicians, and it's a little hard for It's kind
of like a cheap code because the newspapers and the
sort of political journalists are not prepared to discuss what
something like this might mean. I used to taking people literally, yes,
(11:09):
and the irony is just kind of a game breaker.
Teenagers discovered this a long time ago to mess with
their parents, and now I think politicians are discovering it
to mess with the kind of people that usually regulate
or keep some kind of eye on politicians. Yeah, and
and they were always like, you can I mean, you
can always see like it's a joke. It's a joke.
(11:29):
It's just I'm a pretend dictator. I'm not a real dictator.
I'm a pretend dictator. Story. Sorry, yeah I was. I
was just gonna say this reminds me of a story
of a friend of mine who was sort of ironically
be rating the assistant at a TV show he worked
on in it kind of a joke way, but also
he was really mad and another writer that worked there
(11:52):
told him, remember your pretend Hollywood asshole, not a real one.
I mean, that's how it works. I also like this
reminds me of a Pinochet quote that there was an
interview and they asked him like a they found human bodies,
like three people, three human bodies in a in a
(12:14):
hole in the ground. I mean it's telling like, hey, this,
this is like your government is killing these people. And
he answered, oh, that sounds good economy and it's like
how economical like something like that, and you're like, oh,
so these people have since the humor, you know, so
(12:36):
a really dark one, the thin line of like making
jokes and tried to be funny. It's not isn't there.
It's always been there. Yeah, Yeah, I think now they
used to say, now was actually pretty funny, and then
people would think, oh, it was fine. I was just
choking around with him, and then they end up like
sent out to dig ditches in Mongolia or something. Um,
so just listen here. Comedy comedy be warned of. You know,
(12:59):
it used to be that the Tater you could tell
who he was because he wore a big uniform with
a ton of medals on it and he was watching
a parade of tanks go by. But now he's on
Twitter and he's treating bitcoins. You gotta watch out. There's
a new the Dictator two point Oh, we we're gonna
need to keep our eye on. Yeah, it's more he's nicer. Okay,
we've got another story for you, and this is from
(13:19):
um Argentina. Fab You're gonna have to help me out
with this one. I learned about it in the Economists.
They quoted in Argentinian politician. They just had their primary
in Argentina, which is kind of like in Argentina, they
have like a preview election, which is the primary, and
then they have the regular totally crazy and his mandatory
you have to vote in the primary, which is massively
(13:40):
change American politics. I think anyway. A woman named Victoria
Tolosa pas she is sort of supporting the ruling party,
and she had a quote. It was translated for me
as in paroh is um the philosophy she has, the
political side she's on in parahi is um, you always
get laid and people like you know, she probably thought
this was cute and funny thing to say, but people
(14:01):
didn't like it and her party suffered a defeat at
the polls. But I was hoping you could walk me
through a little bit the linguistic meanings here, what's going on?
So yeah, I was I was looking for this quote
and uh and it's first of all, it's true. This
is a true story. Uh. And this was she she
was being asked. Uh, it was like a Facebook um
(14:24):
kind of a conference that she was doing. So a
lot of people were asking her questions and she trying
to be cool and nice. You know, young. Is she
on video or she likes me it's a video? Yeah?
And she she she was like according to this news
She was like, oh, um, a lot of young people
(14:44):
love our party. You know, the real strongest part of
our party. It's a it's young, you know. And uh,
then someone asked him, like one of the hosts is like,
so people young, like when a dance, when to have sex?
When people are going to be able to go back
to have sex? I mean because of the condemning, there
(15:05):
was a lot of restrictions. There was no parties. And
she answered it's huge because in Baron is mum, you
always get laid. But she said in better name, that
is a very Argentina wait to say got a chill.
It's a very Argentina way to say have sexy. Uh so, yeah,
(15:27):
it's it's it's all true. And she was like talking
about like she was being asked about, Oh okay, when
people are gonna be able to like actually I'm listening
to the video right now. Sorry, um in yeah, she
was in a very young setting. If you watch the conference,
like she was part of like kind of like a
TV show on YouTube, a chill kind of like talk
(15:51):
show chill format. It looks like she's on like one
of those British style panel show with a couple of
guys or like a radio show kind of thing. Like
she's not killing a four love to say she's trying
to be chill. I mean even like she's not saying
a formal speech and this is like very chill and
like having fun. And then she said this, she's right.
I think she have a point here, tell me more.
(16:14):
I don't know. I feel like Argentina always been like
this crazy fun place. Uh and people always very liberal
with with with their buddies and like, you know, it's
like sex, it's not that a big deal. Like in
Chile she was more conservative. And I mean I can
feel that during pardi Ism there was a lot of sex. Okay,
the old these years Argentina here, I don't but a
(16:39):
couple of thoughts. I love this attitude for a politician,
Like it's amazing that no politicians have tried this before.
I haven't heard a Democrat or a Republicans say like
we're the sexier party. You're gonna have you have more
sex when we're in charge, like and that's a powerful
argument that would break through, and I really haven't heard it.
Another thought I had though in English, like almost any
way you would say that, possibly because of sort of
(17:02):
underlying misogynistic ideas in the language, but saying like you're
always gonna get late, it's probably the most gentle way.
But saying like you're gonna get screwed, or you're like,
there's a way where the saying could mean like you're
it would have a double meaning of like we're gonna
stick it. You know, it's not going to be right.
So I was just wondering if that came through in
(17:22):
Spanish too, or if this is like if Spanish has
more beautiful ways of saying, uh, you're gonna have sex,
that that they're sort of gender positive. No, I'm pretty
sure that someone doing this joker pretty into they're like, yeah,
it buries them already. I know that because I mean,
look at my business. But at the same time, I
(17:45):
think she means like I mean, she mean a woman
telling the saying this that helps the vote. You know,
maybe if they do it will be like like you're
gonna add a little later and get out of here.
And by the way, you made me think because I
think if Trump have said that at some point, yeah,
I don't think if the base will be happy because
(18:07):
I think He's base is very scared of sex. It's
like you, I mean on internet drolls, then maybe are
you going to have more sex? Will be like oh really,
ter for Chan mafia would be terrified, very I mean,
they would say like, yes, exactly what we want, and
(18:28):
then inside me like I'm not sure, but you know,
I wish the Trump had sech amount this because the
sort of Brooklyn uh you know, protester anti Trump people
would have immediately their immediate reaction be like, oh yeah,
we'll show you. And then there would have been a
sexual explosion just as an act of protest to Trump,
which could have benefited a lot of people. I don't know,
(18:49):
it could have changed the whole game. So maybe Trump
was wisely steered clear of this. And for pause, I
think it was an error, right she this was this
It broke through enough that I heard about in an
English magazine, The Economist, which doesn't think very highly of
what's going on in Argentina. No, and and and by
the way, like there's a war going on right now
(19:11):
between the president Alberto Fernandez and the vice president Christina Fernandez.
And at the beginning of this relationship, because they always
have a tense relationship. By the way, um, the story
is like when Christina she was the president, she was
very shady, you know, and a lot of people think
that she also like murdered someone. I mean, there's no
(19:32):
any proof of that, but like a lot of people
think that way and this this this is the guy
who's the president right now. He was very hesitant about,
you know, work with her, and he was part of
the same party, but like he was like one of
the first to criticize her. So then when because he
was a nobody, to be honest, like the prisoner Argentina
(19:52):
was not like an important politician at the time. Uh,
but then they needed someone looks fresh and it was
kind of like out of the raidar and they have
a meeting with Christina Fernandez and they kind of like
make a deal like Okay, I'm going to be the president,
you're gonna be the vice president. We're gonna make this work.
And it was like peaceful time still now because now
(20:14):
everyone's blaming each other, like is your fall, You're not
strong enough? And well he also did this party um
Fernandez Alberto the president did this little gathering during COVID
and everyone said hating him. So Christina occasion kind of
like joined that group of criticizing this guy. So yeah,
there's a war right now between president and vice president
(20:36):
ongoing in Argentina. Got it a shaky alliance, which you
know that can be that can lead to sexy situations.
So maybe she's right, you know, the reading about Argentina,
Like it's something that I think we here in the
United States, like, don't there's always an economic crisis going
on in Argentina. That's beyond the thing, like inflation is
(20:57):
at fifty unemployment is double. Just like it's a wonder
that people are getting up and going to work in Argentina.
You know, it would if that happened in the United States,
there'll be riots in the streets, would be crazy. And yeah,
somehow it does seem to function and people are doing
their thing and it's just life now in Argentina. I
think it's been so long without a crazy The funny
thing I mean, or are not funny but crazy, is
(21:19):
that even when like now they lose a lot of votes,
these people go like for a long time, they belove it,
not know for like their economical respond more for like
their character. The character. Yes, you know, you can have
like a really huge crasis and be like charismatic enough
and smart enough to like play with the tools of
(21:41):
the country and make it work, you know, which true.
I get the sense in the United States, politicians, especially
at the presidential level sort of held responsible for the economy,
but it seems like Argentina's Everyone accepts that Argentina's economy
is some crazy monster up down left right. They are
forty five billion dollars to the I m F. I mean,
it's just it's it's like if you think they have
(22:02):
the enemy of the it seems like when you do,
you make your enemy and something some force from outside
the country. You're like, okay, I can't do anything, man, Like,
it's not my fault. They're trying to, like, you know,
make us pay this debt, and it's impossible. So um
and I don't remember who was the first one to
say this, but like they decided to, like, we're not
(22:22):
gonna pay for this debt anymore. Why should you know
what what's gonna happens? The debt I didn't do. If
I'm a thirty year old Argentinian guy, it's like I
I didn't get dollars from Why am I going to
suffer to pay it back? It doesn't make sense. Go
get the guys who did it. They're probably well, okay,
(22:56):
we have to wrap up, of course, with the story
from Chile. What have you got for worlds? What's going
on in your beautiful, wonderful narrow country. So, guys, it's
been a crazy couple of months. Uh, if you if
you guys are thising this podcast in the last month,
just in the last month, one of the guys who
was writing the convention for to be I mean for
(23:17):
the next Constitution of Chile fake his cancer. He's supposed
to have cancer. He won't because you have cancer. And
then this week we found out that he has syphilis.
Oh okay, so he was it was syphilis. He just
lied about what it was. Yeah, but I mean, I
think cancer, it's it's it's big worse than syphilis totally.
(23:38):
In the government help you if you have syphilis, also
help if you have cancers. Is not the same amount
of money, but like if you have syphilis, you'll you'll
be fine, you know. Uh. So his character was built
in this idea of like he was was more of like,
I don't know, cancer fighter, trying to exactly exactly. And
(24:00):
then he was what you said he had cancer? Did
he know, like did he actually have syphilis? And then
he knew he had something. He just made a cancer
because that's better or was he not even sick yet?
He just later he lied about having cancer and then
he got syphilis. No, I think I think this story
is like he had syphilis and he was kind of
ashamed of this, sure, and he just decided to go
(24:24):
with cancer. But the problem with that is, like I mean,
I understand that you can fake it and be like
a lie, and you know, everyone come in mistakes, but
he was like writing a blog about cancer. He had
like a blog with like chemo thirty six the pain.
You know, yeah, that's a lot of research. Yes, yes,
(24:48):
one of the biggest lie on your blog. No, you
don't lie in blogs. And he also, like I think
one of the mistakes was the numbers. He he'd be like, oh,
I have this debt on chemos and it was like, oh,
chemos are not that expense. You know, he inflated the
price of his fake chemo. Wow. Yeah. Well so then
(25:08):
a couple of days before that, the same political movement
of this guy they found out like he has they
run with a presidential candidate called Diegon Callao, and they
found out like more than sixty percent of his signatures
to be to run for president. Because if you're independent
in Chile, you have to get a bunch of signatures
to run. We're fake, we're from Manori. And Thenari was death. Okay.
(25:32):
Um so the old day we keep scratching like people
from you know politics, and then yesterday, I mean we
used to have seven people running for president. Now we're
like going to five probably. Um. So this week they
found out that one of the candidates who is kind
(25:53):
of like a libertarian kind of I mean he approached
to the idea of government with like I'm outside of
the political spectrum. You know, I don't care for the people.
But like if you read his idea as a more
like a libertarian kind of character. And he was a
guy to give you advice on TV about what to
do with your money. H So that that was his platform.
(26:17):
You know, I help you with their money. I can
make your money. I give me a president. Um. And
then uh, well he was a teacher at the University
of Alabama. Uh, he decided economics or something. He decided
to run again as a president of Chilling this election.
(26:37):
The last time he ran four years ago, he got
not bad at all. He came up for yeah, a player.
So he's running again and he's I mean I was
checking his social media because his candidacy was kind of weird.
He don't give any interviews. I mean we're two months
from the election. You know someone from the is he
(27:01):
in Alabama? Or where is he? Yes? You have a
touch for three years. Okay. So this guy was running
an online campaign. I mean there's a video, there's a
video like he's he's the supporters goes to Uh, you
have to do a whole ritual to like get into
(27:22):
the candidates. You have to go to like the set avail.
That is the place where like they approved the signatures
and approved that you're you're you're going to be the canadidate.
And there's people with an iPhone and he, you know,
rooting for a guy who isn't zoom like, yeah, I'm
going to be the president of this country. Okay. And
so if you watch you social media, you can see
(27:43):
that the trend of its audience starting like hey, when
are you coming? The campaign is kind of down here
six miles away before you are. And he keeps saying like,
in this world, we do we do zoom for everything,
do zoom for classes? We do soon with their kids? True? Yes, yeah,
(28:05):
but what what what he is not doing classes in
the University of Alabama. Maybe center yourself geographically in the
place where you're trying to be the president and not
where in your work, right. Okay, So this controversy keep going,
and he was making this video saying like, um oh,
(28:28):
there's a debate coming up next week, the first presidential debate,
and he was invited, and he's like like, yeah, of
course through zoom and the rest of the kind of
is like, that's not fair. We're gonna be there. You know,
this guy's gonna have the chance to be in another place.
We don't know who's there. Maybe they're gonna be like,
you know, throwing him numbers behind cameras he can have
(28:49):
the cheats right in front of him exactly, just like
make him come here and you know, we'll debate. Um.
And he was like this censorship, they're trying to destroy.
The media hates me. They're doing this because it's like
the media is shady and they don't want me to
tell the truth of power to power blah blah blah uh.
And yesterday they find out he have haven't paid for
(29:12):
the money to his for his kids. Okay, maybe that's
child support or alimony depending on it, for your kids. Okay,
So he's he shows up in Chili. He's in trouble
in Chile. We called them like, oh that's nice. Part payments. Yeah, yeah,
(29:33):
because he's like a father who's now to show up
is like heartful dad, heartful payments. Okay, Wow, that's it's
pretty brutal to put that in a to put heart
stuff in the form of money, but I kind of
like it. Well, yeah, and he clearly haven't paid for years.
He and the story run by can in Chile is
(29:57):
that if he stepped on Chile like he arrived on
a plane, he could be taken to jail immediately. Got you.
That does the reason why he was running the a
Zume campaign stick in Alabama. Hang out, Maybe you get
lucky and then if he becomes what if he had
become president, still have the pain. He's gonna be the
zoom resident of Chile. You know. I was just what
(30:18):
I was thinking, is it is football season up here Alabama.
That's a pretty big deal. Maybe he didn't want to
miss that. That makes sense. That makes more sense than
anything else you've said. And he called the University of
Alabama and he still love him. I was like, yeah,
he hasn't worked here since two thousand fifteen. Another twist.
So he's avoiding Chile for his fake job in Alabama. Wow, okay,
(30:40):
it seems like good work. But Chilean journalists for uncovering
all this, By the way, he dismissed, I mean he
he changed he's LinkedIn, Like, oh no, I was never
in the right. I meant to get to my LinkedIn
and explained that one. Sorry about that. Okay, moment of thinking, like,
(31:01):
damn it my LinkedIn. That's so rude of me. Well,
it is like you you might not get to changing
your linked until you know, five or six years after
you change jobs. You never know you're running for president.
You're very preoccupied. Linkedn' is not your number one thing. Yeah,
you're right, no one is chaking them that. But well,
this is another candidate. Was he's still in the ballot.
(31:21):
You know, he's still in the ballot right now, and
I think he's hact like he's not going to be
in the ballot. So maybe he can be the first
zoom president. Why you should interview a couple of his
voters and see how they the die hard loyalists who
still think he's the guy for the job. I'm sure
there's not a lot of out there. Well, guys, toad
Venom getting laid relative to politics, irony, Twitter presidents and
(31:46):
Chilean Alabama zoom presidential impostors. I think we've covered it all.
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