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OMG is right!  Ian Ziering is back to co-host and he's answering your burning questions!(and one of us is trying to act calm, cool, and collected...) 

 

As we discuss THE BACK STORY we have many thoughts... Brenda and those darn cigarettes...Brandon and Nikki's kiss...BJ Harrison and that key...Vests are making a real fashion statement in this episode. 

 

Oh, and did we mention that Ian Ziering takes his shirt off during this podcast?!9021Oh yeah...

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi everybody, Okay
this week Tori is not with us, but Amy and
I are going to do our best move forward. I
did not sleep last night. I'm not sure. Were you nervous.

(00:21):
I'm just like overwhelmed by it, because okay, what are
you talking about? You always you're acting normal? Now is
something about to happen? That's okay, you guys. Um Steve
Sanders is going to be on our show, just saying
he's going to co host with us today and I, okay,

(00:43):
you guys before he gets off. I didn't want to
look like I was trying too hard like this has been.
I have not slept because it's like I want to
look good what you do, thank you so much, But
I don't want to look like trying too hard or
I'm not gonna I'm my shure. It's like a little bit,
a little bit open, a little bit further than But

(01:03):
I didn't want to be too weird and I don't
want to be like creeped out because I still like
friends with him, so I don't And you're still, yeah,
you're like still I have a professional relationship, yes, like
I have to be normal. I literally, for the last
hour I've been saying to myself, abnormal, abnormal, abnormal, This
is normal abnormal. Oh my gosh, I can't wait to
see how this goes. He's so great with that. Let's

(01:28):
have let's have Iron Zerring join us. What's up, beautiful?
Oh my gosh, you guys, this is so exciting for me.
But wait, but it's much much, much, much more exciting
for Amy. Sugarman. Uh start, don't start, let me back up.

(01:49):
So everybody, thank you for tuning in for another week
of nine O two and o MG. We're so excited
to be with you, and Tori is off this week.
But we have the ex best thing, if, if there
is such a thing, we have with almost today I
almost said better, No, Amy, never better. Well in your eyes,

(02:10):
maybe I don't know, but we have with us today,
Iron Searing, filling in as a co host, feeling what's
going on? Jen? How are you? Amy? Hi? Everybody who's
watching this completely new. I don't do podcasts, but they're
they're not watching, they're listening to Hello, they're listening to it. Oh,

(02:32):
they're listening to it. Okay, Hi, Oh my gosh, I'm giddy.
To see you. Every time I see you, I'm just
so happy. You're a smile maker to meet you. Have
you seen each other since you were on the plane together. No,
we haven't seen each other since uh one of us
kicked the other ones duty in the in the don't

(02:56):
even get you got for not not coming through with
I dream of Genie. It's like unbelievable. Oh my god,
let it go, you guys. He's talking about we did
an episode of uh name that tune. It's coming on
very soon on Fox in the next couple of weeks,
so we can't give it away. Who did what? But

(03:19):
there were mistakes all around I so don't worry about it.
We we can never live that down in each other's eyes.
That was embarrassing. This theme song will grant you three wishes,
Like how many freaking shows? How many theme songs could
have possibly been? I completely blanked and I said, okay,

(03:39):
nine notes. I figured I could figure it out nine notes,
and then you jumped to six. But Jenny, you little
sneaky bird, you Jenny like before the show is like,
I don't remember anything. I don't remember anything. I can
name that tune in two weeks and so she says,
all right, I can name that tune in six notes.
So I'm thinking she's trying to flex zombie and I'm like,
go ahead, named that too, and she busts out I

(04:04):
dream of Genie and it was a knife in my heart,
a smack in my face, and a kick in my
pants all at once. Out. I knew she kicked your ass.
We knew it. Oh, I don't know. I don't know,
but you're welcome. I'm sorry. I don't know what to say,
but I mean, I grew up watching that show, so
I had to know that watching that show too. It's

(04:26):
the first belly button I've ever seen on TV. So
don't even tell me I've got graphic memories of of
gene your shame. Oh yeah, so we haven't. We haven't
seen each other caught up since Ireland and that was
just a great trip. I had so much fun, uh
pub crawling with you or whatever that was that we did.

(04:46):
We look out, We laughed our asses off, oh my god,
as we always do. You know, people think that, you know,
they're probably not friends anymore, and you know that's not true.
We're really friendly with the entire cast. It's just geography
that separates us. We don't have the benefit and joy
of working, you know, shoulder to shoulder every day. That

(05:06):
was a ten year event that set the stage for
a lifelong friendship, and I'm grateful for it. You know,
I'm so happy to see you. We followed each other's post. Jimmy,
you can ask on the golf course. I don't know
you had an ounce of athleticism and now you're like
smacking the ball like a pro. You never thought I
had an ounce of athleticism. Did you see my skills

(05:29):
on the volleyball court in season three? Hello? Didn't you
have a stand in for that? Oh? Probably? I don't know. No,
I you know what, We've never done anything like that.
I mean, yeah, in front of the camera. But you
know you you're really I've got to tell you. I'm
impressed with your your golf game. You want to go

(05:50):
with me? You want to go golf on with me? No?
I hate golf. I'm good for nine holes for me personally,
golf is five holes too long around thirteen I'm okay.
I'm done, me too. Four sleeves of balls, Yeah, I'm great.
You know when I go I like to play a
best ball, hits but you play the best ball, quick couple.

(06:12):
I got a couple of good jokes, and I like
a nice corn beat sandwich on the night, and I'm
I like a glass of wine. That's why I go.
I go wine and nine, No, nine and wine and
nine and wine. That's that's why I don't love it
as much. Yeah, you gotta come play with me. Okay, done,
let's go. Let's go do that. I don't know Amy though,

(06:32):
but today I was so excited that Iron was coming
on the show today that I I would I wore
my tank top. I could hardly sleep last night. I
had to get Steve Sanders tank top, and I wore
my Well it's not a belly shirt, but I can
make it that way. But I also wore I was sure.
I was. Yes, it was very disappointing. We didn't see

(06:55):
the shorty short shorts in the episode. No, no, no
shorts in this wet like a bare middriff and shorts. Yeah,
you know, you give us a lot of material to
work with. I with the costumes, I'm sorry. I didn't
feel like I had a friend to clue me in
on fashion. Okay, there was no mirror in my dressing room,
nobody spoke up. Who the hell wears their shirts like this?

(07:18):
What the hell you do? You do? My friend, and
you do it? How much input did you have in
that wardrobe? I care to admit Amy a lot. I
thought I was being cool. You know you were. There's
war those shirts. It's a huge mistake, and you had

(07:39):
big guns like you wanted to show them off. Let's
be honest, it was. It was all to deflect on
that I didn't have any talent, so I had to,
like when we when we did nine O two on
b H O two on oh, when I had to
go back and talk to my younger Steve self, I
had to make sure I know I got something much

(08:01):
better to warn them about the future. Never to wear
those belly shirts again. Never throw them out. It's not
the belly shirts. And it stood out to us so
much as the shorts that are like underwear. Basically, yeah,
those those running shorts, but everybody wore them. I mean,
I'm feel so much of your legs, Oh my god,

(08:26):
um yeah, thank you. Look, I'm trying to control myself.
I'm not going to get too like flirty, but you
you know what a fan, Amy is right, You're like
my favorite favorite. I'm not gonna thank you. I like
Jason a lot, but you're my favorite. So you look good,

(08:48):
like I don't want to make it seem like you
didn't look good and you look really good now, but
your fashion isn't good in this show. In this show, yeah,
you know, Um, it's reflective of the time. It's reflective

(09:08):
of of Steve Sanders attitude, very a lot of confidence.
You know, he didn't care what people said. You know,
that's maybe when he went home and cried to beat
some of you, but that you know, Steve Sanders was
very flashy. Uh. He did things with no regard for

(09:30):
consequences because he always felt that he could possibly buy
his way out of that. And later he learned through
his own evolution the value of the friendship and and
decided to chase respect rather than chase being cool. Uh.
And now that really was the arc of the character
that created a lot of facets to Steve. Yeah, but

(09:53):
in the early years, it was a spoiled rich kid.
Why would why wouldn't you wear those razor glasses? Had
you remember those that had like sharp pointy ends, like
what a you know, me saw kind of a really
cool side of Steve in the episode the Backstory, because
you really did you defend your mom and you've gotten

(10:14):
Michael Cutlet's face in this one. You were like, uh yeah,
I had to bring game that that episode. That was
you know a lot of times they would write stuff
for me that was unexpected. I'm like, oh great, this
is creates a little depth of character. You know. When
we first started started doing the show, I hated Steve

(10:35):
Sanders such a prank you like nobody. I didn't like him.
I didn't like him. I had a meeting with the
writers and Rose and like, look, no one's gonna like
this kid. It's a spoiled, rich kid. He's brash, he's obnoxious.
We need to find something redeeming about him. Okay, otherwise
it's one note and it's gonna be a slow death. Wow.

(11:01):
So they put their heads together and they came up
with the fact that he was a victim of poor parenting,
that he was adopted and his mom, who was a celebrity,
and his father, who was an entrepreneur, really just adopted
a kid. Me out of love, but more so out
of like, look at me, I'm a good person. I
adopted a kid, but never really nurtured him other than

(11:24):
putting a hundred dollar bills in his pockets and letting
him figure out his ways uh forward, by himself. It
wasn't until he met Brandon and Brenda and understood you know,
greater family values, um that he started to to evolve.

(11:46):
You know when before the show, the pre life of
the show was Stephen Kelly, and you know, Steve thought like,
I got this beautiful Kelly on my arm, and this
is gonna be the best and where the couple and
you know, I think Kelly to heloped a sense of
a greater depth of character in wanting something more, knowing

(12:07):
that it wasn't with Steve, uh the love that she
had yearned for, and then when she read Brandon and Delon,
you know, it took it to a greater level. That
was that was her journey. Steve's was more about himself.
He found a family in the Walshes. And I love
that we all found a family in the Walshes. Yea.

(12:29):
And it made the family that I had prior to them.
David Silver was never in Steve Sanders orbit. He was
a little kid Donna. You know, Kelly and Donna may
have hung out a little bit, but she was an
underclassman as well. It just it just pulled the draw
string a little closer on the group of friends that

(12:52):
he had interesting once the Walshes were included into that fabric. Yeah,
I just love the way Steven so always been so
protective of his mama though, like you, even though she's
not your birth mom, she's your mom and you the
character Steve is always there and like ready to fist

(13:13):
up for her, And I love that about you. Was
that something that you wanted to play or did they
bring that to you or do you remember? You know
it once you read the words, you've got to bring
your life to those experiences, and it was an easy
choice for me. Um And I think you know, any

(13:33):
time that you can uh champion a cause or create
a situation that you know might be uh not what
people expect, but have a have more impact than what
they expect, it is always going to be a better choice.
That's what the way I approached things as an actor.

(13:54):
When they brought you know, Steve's mom into the picture
and then we've found out that he was adopted, it's like,
you know, I don't know what my thought process was
at the time. But I think, you know, if I
look back at it now, if someone goes to the
trouble of adopting a child, I would think, hopefully ideally

(14:18):
that child would be imbued with a sense of gratitude
and appreciation and go worder the mat for someone who
gave gave up a chunk of their life to share
and nurture and raise you. So you know there, that
was the greatest gift that Steve ever got was to

(14:39):
be adopted by Samantha and Rush even though they were
screw ups. Rush Sanders, Oh my god, Jenny, Oh my god,
I know, character never good God. Yeah, you know. And

(15:00):
then at that time they bought Florence and remember her.
Oh yeah, I remember Florence. No, you're making stuff up now,
nothing with me whatever. I'm just trying to point out
that it made your character more lovable, all right, thank
you talked about that before Iron where I feel like
Brandon and Steve because I think maybe, like in the Zeit, guys,

(15:24):
everyone's always like Brandon and Dylan, Brandon and Dylan they
were best friends. But I actually really think that Brandon
and Steve we're best friends, were way closer, especially up
until this the episodes we've rewatched. Yeah, um yeah, I
think the opposites of the two characters really created a

(15:46):
mutual respect and attraction. You know, there was a certain
sameness to Brandon and Dylan that helped them commune on
on that level. But what you know, I don't know
that Brandon and Dylan were right or die buddies. Yeah,
I don't think. I think they were great friends, best

(16:08):
friends even But I think, you know, if if there
was an opportunity to jump in front of a bullet,
uh to stop it from hitting his buddy, I think
Steve would have would have done that. I totally agree.
I totally agree with that Brandon would have done it
begrudgingly because he knows, like I would never be in

(16:29):
a situation where his guns in the first place. Um.
And then, I don't know, I think Brandon Dylan, I
think instead of either of those guys jumping in front
of the bullet, I think they maybe would have pushed
them out of the way kind of thing. So while
it's still there's still that uh love, it's not the

(16:50):
kind you would go to the mad for. I don't know,
that's my opinion. I'm well, I'm welcome I'm welcoming conjecture
on this. I don't know the truth and this is
all uh theoretical, But yeah, I think Brandon and Steve
were true best friends did too, especially just as we're
rewatching when they really like communicate more like it's Brandon

(17:16):
will see Dylan like in the hallway, and it's kind
of like, oh hey, and every once in a while
they sort of have a moment. And I don't know
if it's because of Brenda. I mean, I'm getting a
little bit too in the weeds, Like I don't know
if you really could be best friends with your sisters, dude,
But everything I've seen always makes me feel like it's
Steven Brandon that are really the besties. We'll push it

(17:36):
twenty five years down the line. You know, are they
still talking or like? Who which which set of friends
are still talking? Which set of friends are still friends
but have grown apart? Like which one of these pairs
probably talk once or twice a month, Which pair probably
talks once or twice a year? Right? You know that

(17:59):
that he focuses for me. Dylan was very independent, very
much a loaner, very much I'm gonna do it. And
he was surfing he was off visiting his dad, he
was off with his girlfriend. He was more of a loner.
So it doesn't degrade the relationship as much as it

(18:21):
really shines a light on the closeness, how tight knit
the companionship was between the two Bats. And that's for
both Brandon and Steve and for Brandon and Dylon. Okay,

(18:47):
so you guys know irons with us, and we're going
to jump into this week's episode because there's a lot
to talk about and we have him here, so let's
take advantage of it. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited
this week. Uh is season three, episode eight. The backstory
aired on September six nine, And since Tory isn't here, uh, sugarman,

(19:10):
would you like to read the synopsis? I don't have
an in front of me. During s A T Week,
Brenda tries desperately to quit smoking habit. Oh, I gotta
try it to get hold on starting over good. During
s A T Week, Brenda tries desperately to quit the
smoking habit she picked up while in Paris. At the

(19:31):
same time, she talks a little too openly to Beth Nielsen,
a tabloid TV reporter, about life in Beverly Hills. Meanwhile,
Nikky turns her sights on Brandon and tries to win
his affections, and an academic shortcut tempts Steve when a
West Beverly alumni b J. Harrison offers him the master

(19:52):
key to the school. Directed by Bradley Gross, written by
Karen Rosen and Darren Starr, and starring Irons Eering. Oh
my god, you guys, can we get Hien's opinion right
at the top about Jason Slash Brandon's aggressive kissing, Like

(20:13):
he's an aggressive kiss That is one of my notes
this week. Amy, I'm like, wait, Brandon just grabs whoever
he wants and kisses them. He meets a girl, no,
Jason Brandon. Yeah, he he just grabs their head and
kisses them in the middle of a sentence whatever, whenever
the impulse strikes him. Yeah, Jason's very impassioned aggressive. I

(20:37):
don't know, let's let's go with passion. That's a better word.
It's a much more politically correct word. I'm not looking
to get anybody in any trouble, and you can't say
aggressive these days. Well, pardon me. He's very strong about it. Yeah,
but don't women like that? Amy. Of course, Hello, that
is a generalization. Not all women like that to being

(21:01):
grabbed by the head and pushed into a kiss. When
he kissed Nicky I was in I'm talking about kissed passionately,
you know, with intention, looking into her eyes. He holds
her and he's just so taken he you know, he Well,
I don't know, Jen, you kissed him more than I did?

(21:22):
This was that? Did he do that every time you
guys had that kind of scene? Uh? No, not every time? Yeah,
how about you? So? Actually never, He's never really grabbed
me by the hair and kissed me. So if he
did grab you by the hair back in the day,
he would have gotten a nice handful with that mullet. Though,
I want to point out, Yeah, the hair is a

(21:43):
little shorter now, about forty hairs shorter. But let's move on.
You look good, You look good. Party in the front.
What was it? Wait? Hold on, party up front? No
business upfront, party in the rear? Yeah? Yeah, you had
as many kisses up until season three, like I wasn't

(22:05):
kissing anybody. Were you angry about that? I sent? I
think my first kiss was I think episode fourteen when
Steve Vett got stolen and when I found out that
they hired like two playboy playmates to Jay and I
were like, dude, right, I remember that they were playmates

(22:28):
and you guys were so stoked. Yeah. Well, but we
were more concerned that they were good actress and they delivered. Recently,
saw the kisses with the twins that we yeah, you
know what when you have the twins swap right? That
was juicy. You kissed me hello, you don't remember that?

(22:50):
Oh which which time yet? On the stairs? Or perhaps
before that in the garage when you made me practice
it with you? Oh? Yeah? All that you're you know,
it's it's supposed to be a packet. There's no reason
to stick your tongue about ear, Jenny. We're rehearsing here.
I understand passion, but let's move on. You just have
such hot ears. I can help myself, you know if

(23:14):
every time I've heard that, Jenny, the romances are a
great part of the show. Their iconic, So it's like,
what can you do? Like these relationships you guys have
are iconic. It's all about that. Well, okay, so this
week's episode was starts out on the S A T S.
And everybody's like freaked out about the s A T S.

(23:35):
And it's okay. I'm just curious what they start out
when they say scan, discard, select, move on. This is
the teachings of the guy that's saying this is what
you need to do to prepare to take the SA
T S. Is that real? Do they really tell people scan, discard, select,
move on before they take the SA T S. It's

(23:56):
probably from the Kaplan School of academic research. It makes
sense to me. You know, you scan, you look for
the right answer, and then if you don't know what,
move on. You narrow down what what doesn't make sense,
You throw away what doesn't make sense, and then you
take a look at the choices that are left and
then and then move on. You know, I never took

(24:19):
the s A T S. So how did you get
out of high school without? Did you finish? Yeah? But
how do you get out of high school without taking
the s A T S. I don't know. I'm just
good that way. I took a prep course. You're going
to college? Yeah, oh yeah, I took a prep course
and there was something like that. I don't remember exactly
what that's probably exactly what it was, but yeah, they

(24:41):
teach you how to take the test. How crazy is
it now that these kids don't even have to take
it anymore? Like me, I was ahead of my I
was ahead of the curve. I knew it wasn't necessary. Yeah,
they don't take it. My fifth grader had to apply
to get into middle school. How about that? No, I know,
it's don't fully a ball at Wait, isn't it? Aren't

(25:03):
you allowed to go to school? Isn't that compulsory? I've
got to apply? Yeah, you want to go to here
in Los Angeles, there's several different schools, and you know,
if you want to go to a particular school, you
have to apply a ten page application and there was
no legacy key and you gotta pay the big bucks.
Is that a lot of pressure on you, dad? Hell? Yeah,

(25:24):
it's more on my parents. Yeah. Yeah, especially when they
asked the child to fill in the last two pages.
You gotta like hand the form to them to answer
and say, please, just messed us up, don't screw I'm
gonna be proof reading your answers before we are listen. Sorry.

(25:46):
I would love it if you were my dad. I
think you'd be such a fun dad. Your girls are
so lucky. Thanks Jenny, I uh, you know, Dad's the
best role I'll ever play, and I enjoy it. You're
there's a lot of cigarette smoking in this episode, and
it really bugged me. Oh my gosh. It was a

(26:08):
little bit like after School Special. It was perfectly placed
in every scene and pointed out, and the Kelly's very
against it. I wonder if that's where, like I developed
my disdain for smoking, Like I can't stand cigarettes or
smoking at this point. I don't think I was in
one scene while they were smoking. You probably wouldn't have

(26:29):
done it if I know you. First of all, I
am pore smoking. I can't. Even when I was a
little kid, my mom had a quit smoking because I
couldn't breathe. And I've never smoked a cigarette. I mean
I've held more and faked it in front of the camera,
but I've never smoked a cigarette. And I like don't
even like to be in the company of people that

(26:51):
that do. That doesn't mean I don't like those people,
It's just I can't breathe. So you think they made
that a storyline to ultimately make it such a big
deal to not do it. I mean, it was very
in your face in this episode. She's smoking in a restaurant.
Not only in a restaurant, she also goes and smokes
inside of a winnebago where they where they're editing a

(27:15):
top story or whatever the backstory show. I'm like that
poor editor man is sitting there inhaling all her smoke.
It really was a huge storyline in this episode, like
it was. But I guess this is it that like
she's I'm I'm assuming there's gonna be no more smoking
after this episode. You know, that's one thing about our show.
They did every once in a while, they throw in

(27:37):
an episode that was issue oriented, you know, something that
um was a lesson to be learned. They would slide
it in there, and you know, it wasn't too heavy handed.
It was done in a way that was true to
the the demographic. You know, young kids in high schools,
they're they're exposed to smoking. They would smoke to be cool. Um.

(28:01):
I remember there was an episode where he freaked out
because he had like a skin cancer, and the whole
damn episode turned into a p s A. It was
so dumb. I was thinking, someone's being paid. What season
is this? I don't even remember what's that is it? Later?
Is it coming up. It's later. Yeah, I haven't seen

(28:22):
that one yet. Oh, I can't wait to watch it.
It's it's it's almost too much. I felt. That was
how I felt about the cigarettes in this one, Like
I got the point, but it was a little bit
so like on the nose that you're just like, we
get it. She smoked. Smoking is bad. Brandon is better
than Brenda. Like there was a lot of that, like
where you realize Brandon is the perfect kid and Brenda's

(28:45):
the f up you know what I mean? That was
really but they smoked in real life, like Jason, Luke, Shannon,
they were all smokers, you know. At that ended very quickly,
uh right after that, but they came to the show
all being smokers. I think that that was it. I

(29:06):
don't maybe you know, Brian was smoking for a little bit,
but you know, he was smoking those beats or whatever
those clothes things were, and I don't know, nobody smokes.
What was in those is that wacky tobacky? No, it
was I think it was clothes or something. Oh, clothes
right right? Yeah, just like really don't even This was

(29:34):
also the big legacy key Master Key episode for Steve
when b j uh picks Steve to carry on the
tradition of criminal action. But yes, like's it's passed down
by generations and generations of like breaking into the schools
like great banks or something. What's a great thing, get

(29:56):
in and steals tests or do whatever. And it was
fick for Steve because he's just the kind of guy
that will take an advantage of the situation where he
can get over on the man. J did you end
up taking the key? And I can't think we know yet.
It's like you don't know if you have it. He
has the key, but we don't know if you use
it yet. Yeah. I'm not going to give away any secrets,

(30:17):
but Steve has a legacy key. What do you think
he's gonna do with it? Okay, you really don't have
to think too hard on this one. And okay, did
you not think that was so? Like? Okay, so b J.
Harrison or whatever his name was, who I liked, by
the way, Yeah, he was cute. And that was also
a little Tiboth. That was Brooke Langton playing SuDS Lipton.
You guys remember her. She went on to be on

(30:38):
Melrose Place. Oh, his girlfriend, and her name was She
was cute. Yea. She went on to do a lot
of acting. But that guy is so mean to Steve,
but yet he picked Steve to give him the key.
It was like so weird. It's like, you're being so
mean to my Steve, but yet you're choosing him to
give him this like key. Yeah, you had to bust

(31:00):
your chops or something. Yeah, no, uh no, attempt to know.
There was no reason not to bus Steve's chops. I mean,
there's like he's the only one on the entire cast
that you can bust chops without Steve. Do you like it?
Like I want to know. I n feels about Steve,

(31:21):
Like really, oh Amy, Steve Sanders has been very good
to me. I like Steve. I appreciate Steve. Steve. You know,
everywhere I go, literally in the world, I'm reminded how
much I appreciate Steve because of the the joy and

(31:41):
pleasure and fun that he brought to so many people
around the world. He's like for me, he's like the
gift that keeps on giving. Fortunate for me, in two thousand,
I got to live my own life. Then, you know,
Steve and I stopped sharing in existence his life, though
stunted Will go on a lot longer than mine. But

(32:05):
I did like Steve's he was a jungle gym to play,
you know, he was an opportunity for me. I never
missed a day of work in ten years. I was
never too sick that I didn't go in. It was
uh for loss. I lost a grandma, my mom passed
away during that Those the only days that I missed work.
And you are never late. I don't remember a time
where you're ever late. I you know what I would?

(32:29):
I still do. I jump out of bed every morning
and like make my movesyched myself up, change my physiology
to get myself the passion to to get after it.
And wait, wait, wait, let me talk to you about
that for a second. You do you you every morning
you have to like psych yourself up like we all do,
but like you really do it. It's not really psyching

(32:49):
myself up. It's more of like seas in the Carpe
d m incantations. Every day and every way, I'm getting
stronger and stronger every day, and every way I getting
in the shower, like every day and every day you
believe in positive affirmations. That's what you're saying. I like that, right,
now you have more energy than any person I've ever known.

(33:12):
You've always had more energy, more positivity. Why why you
making fun of my hairy arms? No? No, my my
arm hair is standing up. I've just got myself in
such a state that it's like, it's because you're talking
to me. What are you talking about. I'm very excited
to be on this podcast with you guys to begin with.
But you know when you talk about coming to work,

(33:34):
I love what I do. I absolutely love, love love
what I do. Every listening realizes, like you are genuinely
the nicest person, Like you get dogs, you are children.
I'm got edged because I when I texted, I am
because I texted last minute, like, can you fill in
for Tory? Like you are the nicest person. I gotta

(33:58):
change that attitude. It's not working for you. I have
to ask you, guys. So, Hollywood four or five, six,
nine wants to know where do you see Steve Sanders? Oh?
Clearly I see him in the cloud forest of Costa Rica,
where he is the personal life coach to the world's
most interesting man. I mean, really, where else is he?

(34:22):
He just pulls this right up like that that fast
always yeah, and he is he married, Did he is
he married? No? No? Yeah? Was he ever married? Yeah?
He was married to Janet. He has baby? Oh? Hello,

(34:44):
have you seen that episode yet? This is a hologram.
You're not really, Jenny, No, I really am. It's barely
see the puppet springs. Think he has more kids? Um,
I think he has more than one child. Yes, I'm
not sure if he has more. He got divorced from Janet.

(35:08):
You know. I think Janet probably divorced him. And I
think it's because it's sad, you know. And I think
it's because I don't know that Steve really has the
skill set two have long, deep, meaningful relationships. I don't

(35:29):
know that he's never really displayed believe that. I don't
believe that at all. I see you Steve having those
developing those and that's what you do at that age. Well,
I don't sell him short. I'm not. There's nothing short.
I'm trying to. I'm trying to. I'm trying to push
the narrative where it would have been more interesting to see,

(35:52):
to see Steve have more ups and downs. Right, you know,
married as an art but like married, divorced, new love, um,
being torn between you know, you know, I just think
being torn is so much more dramatic than playing the

(36:12):
marriage note on TV. It doesn't. I'm name three successful
marriages that you've seen on TV Monica Monica and Chandler
Monican Ship. Well, oh the guys from This is It? Yeah,

(36:32):
that one and you know what's his doozy on Modern Family?
We can do it. Yeah, there there are certainly several,
but uh, I just my point is, I think it's
more more interesting. There's more drama opportunity, uh, you know,

(36:53):
otherwise then you have to bring you more characters to
to add color. T J twelve ten wants to know
who is Steve's true love? Who is Steve's true love?

(37:15):
Do I have to like Kelly Kelly Teller? Of course,
thanks for reminding me, like thinking, do we have to
stay within the combines of those ten years? But yeah,
I think yeah, I would actually say that without you
even uh nudging me. Jin. You know, first true love
was was Kelly Taylor, and I think that though there

(37:41):
they didn't go on to be a couple. I think
that Steve will always love Kelly. I think he will
always look out for her and realize that, you know,
through his own screw ups, or for whatever it was
that they broke up, was that she was the one
that he let getaway. I find that like watching back
this early seasons and seeing their relationship develop the way

(38:05):
that it has so far, it gives me such an
appreciation for you and for my relationship with you, because
not unlike Kelly and Steve, you and I have a
very beautiful, you know, long standing relationship and you're always
you will always be one of my very favorite people

(38:26):
in the world. And I feel like our characters sort
of felt that way about each other too. Yeah, yeah,
well that's what we do. We bring our life to
those imaginary circumstances, and that's how those characters bloom by
what we bring to the plate, what we bring to
the table from our own personal relationship, it's just going

(38:46):
to transfer, especially since the writing facilitated that. I mean,
if they created bump or bumps or or any kind
of uh dressed between us, any kind of conflict, you know,
we would have played that. You know, I think probably
would have had an underlying tone as like I love you,

(39:08):
but I don't like you kind of stuff. Yeah, we
saw that so much. When Grant Show Guests starred with
Jenny because Steve comes to the door and I remember
being like heartbroken, yeah in that, and it was some
of Jenny's like amazing work, Like I really saw like
a Kelly change then, and it was like you were

(39:28):
at the door and there's Grant show and you're kind
of like what's that, Like Steve, so what's happening? And
it was so devastating punch stuff. Yes, the show would
do that every once in a while. It was great
moments like that, and they, of course they would fill
it with such wonderful music that would just increase the
sorrow or heartbreak. Sound design was so great. Whoever did

(39:51):
sound on our show was so good in making it
play up or emphasized. There's a theme song on some
commercial that us constantly right now on Channel four about
it's like some insurance car commercial and it's like that
this like or like this guitar riff. And every single
time I hear that commercial, I turned around and I

(40:12):
think that our shows on because it's like the same
sound as the theme song from our show. Now I've
got that stuck in my head. I know I'm going
to hear that today at some point, Like that's what
you're talking about? I'm not pulling it right now. You'll know,
You'll know Simon wants to know. There's an emotional scene
that both of you remember, not necessarily with each other,
but it just really stands out like the most emotional

(40:36):
scene you had to shoot for Jimmy. Uh, you know,
there was one There was one episode that I think
it was the same episode that Steve Zvett got stolen,
the slumber Party episode where I really, uh just got

(40:58):
a huge dose of respect for what Jenny brings to
the to the table and also an appreciation for how
amazing our show is. When Kelly Taylor had to talk
about a date that went wrong, and it was like
the first time that it was an emotional spin on

(41:21):
what up until that point had been glitz and glamour
and the slumber party. Where Kelly is talking about how
um was it great? He pushed himself on your right
something like that, Jenny, And I'm watching this and I
was riveted because as Kelly's talking, all of all of

(41:45):
a sudden, tears start to drop and the camera's doing
a slow push in and it just it gave me chills.
And it was at that moment, like everyone uh on
the cast at some point, UM gained a tremendous amount
of respect when I saw something displayed or that they

(42:08):
brought to the table that was beyond and very early on,
Jen you did that in that episodes like Holy, that
was awesome. Yeah, yeah, we all had to bring that though. That.
I think that that's why people got so connected to
these characters is because they really could feel their feelings. Yeah,

(42:30):
that was That was such great work that I didn't
see coming. Um. I remember another episode later when I
was working with Lindsey Price Um where I would I
don't remember the exact situation. I came to the door
and it was either to break up or for her
to tell me her parents didn't like me. And you know,

(42:52):
we had to do it six times for some reason,
director wanted to move the camera or one of the
tap at it. But you know, Lindsey would start out
with a like a dry palette and she'd be talking
and it was such an emotional scene that all of
a sudden the water would stop and it would start,
and you know, for an actor to have that kind

(43:14):
of skill is it's really amazing, you know, to be
able to be brought internally to a level that You're
able to convey that sense of sorrow for an imaginary circumstance. Uh, repeatedly.
Uh was was amazing. She crushed it. You know, Uh,

(43:38):
everyone everyone at some point, and it didn't have to
be through tears. It could be just through a particular
line read or a particular situation where you know it
wasn't expected. I mean, if I was, that character would
have come out a different way. But I was so
enamored and um enthralled by the performance of each and
every one of my cast mates at one point or

(44:00):
another when they were given the tools, when they were
given the words to say that enabled them to really shine.
That one particular episode, Jenny for You was like the
beginning of me being in the awe of what you're capable.
So sweet, I have a question, uh for you? Can
I be the next question on the line? Okay, good,

(44:23):
thank you, thank you? Pick me. Uh. You have so
many of the best ad libbing moments all the time.
Every time it's always you ad lipping, and I know
you brought so much, like in particular in this episode alone,
when you walk up to Mrs Teasley in the hallway
and you go you say, Mrs t how you be

(44:44):
this is a favorite thing, like, and I'm like, only
you could pull that off. And I know that wasn't
in the script. You just brought so much, so much
flavor to your character and with all your ad libs.
I like to laugh a lot. I'm always looking for
humor in everything. Do you just like an icebreaker? You
were the guy that made everybody happy to be there? Oh?

(45:06):
I love you, I love you, I love you. Thank
you sweet. It's like you guys really are. It's like
I want everyone listening to know like they are. This
is real. It's just so you guys will be bonded forever. Yeah,
he cannot get rid of me or any of us. Nope,

(45:29):
till the end of time. This episode also um we
see Dylan visit his dad and jail briefly. Very briefly though,
but his dad commences some good parenting advice to him
from jail and convinced him to make something of himself.

(45:50):
Go take his You know s A T S will
you will? You want your girls to go to college? Yeah,
schools over when college is thrown. If they want to
go on to UH master's program or something more than that,
that's an option. But I grew up in a family
of educators. My father, all my aunts and uncles, there

(46:13):
were five siblings altogether. They were all in education. My
uncle was a principal. My father was a music teacher,
and then he was a guidance counsel first his career. Yeah,
education is very important, Uh for me, I'm gonna pass
that down to my kids. And if they want to
stop school, it's after college. Good for you. My parents

(46:33):
were educators too, and I didn't even graduate high school.
I don't growing up. Growing up, I didn't know. I'm
telling you. I was in twelfth grade, graduating, heading to college,
and I spoke to a buddy, I'm like, what college
youre going to? I'm not going to college, Mike. What
because like for me, tenth grade, eleventh grade, twelfth grade, college, freshman, senior, junior, whatever.

(47:01):
I didn't know it was an option. There was an option.
It was never made like, no school, You'll be done
with school when you're throw with college. So I didn't
know that college was an option. It was weird. My
father just yeah, I had. My brothers were ten years
older than me, still our tenures on me, and they went,
you know, one got an NBA, another got a master's one.

(47:24):
One of my brothers went on got his PhD. But
those were I knew those were options. But do you
still think that in today, in the same age, college
is vital to success. I think it's vital for a
few reasons, not just for the course of study that
you choose, but also for the socialization. Um it's uh.

(47:50):
You know, I've got a nephew that I graduated with
a poetry poetry degree. I'm not sure that was money
well spent. This particular kid happens to be a Virginius,
started a business and sold it to Boeing. That's some
that's some poetry dedviers right there, right right. Um. I

(48:10):
I feel college is important. You know, it's very difficult
now that we live in a gig economy where people
look to start their own business. I think the best
course of study, if you're looking focusing on the lifestyle
you want, would probably be business because everything else, you're
going to be an employee, and employees are working a

(48:33):
job and a job you know what job stands for
journey of the broke. It's true. People that are working
as an employee are not going to create the kind
of wealth that's going to give them the life that
they may long for. You got to own a business,
so I think a business degree, uh is H is

(48:56):
probably the best degree too to go forward. Otherwise you
work hard for a living rather than smart for a lifestyle.
Or even if you're studying something else, to minor in
business would be a good choice. I mean, I'm always
telling my girls that to just learn how to do
business because it's going to be an integral part of
whatever it is that you do moving forward. Because even

(49:17):
if it's just your life, you're the CEO of your life,
like you know how to run it, know how to
take care of yourself. Absolutely. I had a I got
a degree in in drama from my college. But my
father said to me, look, you better have a plan B.
You need to figure it out because not very many
people make it as well. Was your plan B? What

(49:37):
was your What was it? Um? Well? I wanted to
do something that I could be passionate about. My dad said,
you know, find something you love. You'll never work a
day in your life. And you know, when I was
in junior high school and high school, I loved saltwater fish.
I had fish tanks at my house and I thought
it would be interesting two maybe one day have I

(50:00):
at that time called catcheries around the world where I
could capture saltwater fish in their environment and then import
them to the United States for the fish tank industry.
And in college, my first two years of college, I

(50:20):
worked in a fish store to learn the business while
I was going to school, just because first of all,
I got wholesale prices on all my fish, but then
I also learned the business. I never knew this about you.
I always wonder what that smell was, but I never
knew that was the fish tank stank, you know, I

(50:42):
swear I never knew you were a big fish guy. Yeah,
I mean I haven't had a fish tank in thirty years.
But in my early years. Somebody's birthday is coming, like
maybe yours. How many days today is your birth birthday?
Believe you're for you for days after mind, Jenny, So
don't even Okay, nobody's getting any younger, nobody gets out

(51:05):
of Okay, that's cute, you guys. You guys have your
birthdays right near each other. We're both aries. Did you
ever joint like a joint party? Back in the day,
we partied a lot, But I don't know that. I
don't know. At birthday parties together, yeah maybe, I don't know.
They would always get a birthday cake for everybody on

(51:26):
the set or on the crew that was in that month,
and then they would write everybody's name on the birthday cake.
You remember that, So there was one cake for every month.
I love cake day, Jenny. I just saw your eyes
looked to the side. That was such a delicious reverie
lived in that moment. Just you know, I'm hungry right
how let me tell you something off topic right now?

(51:48):
But I'm doing that fasting thing where you eat, you
only eat for a certain amount of time and then
I'm really hungry right now. Oh you, Jennet, to see
my generation, we just call it missing breakfast. I guess
so I'm used to my I like my berries in
the morning. Anyway, how do we get to the places

(52:09):
we get? I don't know. Well, let's get back to
the episode. Let's let's let's any of you. Did you
think of this episode in general? I kind of loved
it and sort of laughed at it a little bit
because it was I really liked it. It was like
what it was so different. It was so centered around
this like news story in this selation an inside edition,

(52:33):
yeah story. I felt like it was a very special
episode of you knows something super weird. So when you
guys are taking the s a t S. So there's
like all this stuff's happening, and then we go towards
the end of the s A T S And I

(52:53):
was like, is this camera being hand held? Like you
guys have to rewatch the scene because it was shot
so messy, Like I was like, what did they forget
all the crew that day? And somebody showed up with
like their camcorder. Maybe that's when the whole like handheld
camera man it was saying. It was so jarring. I

(53:14):
was like, wait, what just happened? He directed this right? Yeah?
He was At first, ad wasn't he? And then he becnted.
I think he was one of the He used handheld
quite a bit. Back then, handheld was much different than
it is now because they don't nowadays. They have this
contraption that the cameraman will wear which stabilizes the camera

(53:36):
so there's no shake whatsoever. Bluid it's beautiful and that's
what they use now. But back then it was literally
a guy with a camera on his shoulder trying not
to jiggle or sneeze or fart or anything, you know,
like it was. There was a scene like everybody needs
to rewatch it and tell me if I'm crazy or not.
But I was like, what just happened? Like, am I
watching like a weird I don't know. It felt the

(54:01):
episode felt disjoined. It to me. I did like when
seeing the twins together. I always love a good twin
scene with Brandon and Brenda, so I enjoyed that. I
thought Brandon was particularly I mean, I am You're still
my favorite. You're my favorite. I'm just gonna but Brandon
looked hot, like he looks so good, and I do

(54:24):
saying that a lot lately. I know he looks real good.
OPT text Jason and say you look good. Let's don't
don't say it like that. That's crazy, and you get
to say it looks good, don't spell it. G e
W D gets weird. And I like Nikki. I think
Nikki is cool. I think she gave Brandon a real

(54:47):
SmackDown in that one scene where he was like just
when he kind of went nuts and I was like,
it's never gonna work and she's like sorry, yeahs is
awesome those who love it. Well I did. I did
have several uh takeaway quotes from this episode. But let's

(55:08):
take a break and when we come back we'll get
into that. Okay. So yeah, this episode I don't usually
cling onto like the lines of the dialogue or anything.

(55:29):
Usually tend to focus on the boom and the shot
or like the camera seeing the camera shadow and stuff
like that. But there was so many lines in this episode. Um,
I'm just gonna go Okay. The first one that stood
out to me was a bunch of ordinary kids living
a world in a world that is extraordinary. I remember
who said it, but it was in the beginning, and
I was like, well, that's basically the you know, the

(55:52):
the one pair one sentence of our show was the show. Yeah, basically,
So they just decided to write that in there. I
guess you know. That was easy. Yes, it had backstory
show like fake inside edition. They took it right off
the i MD page there dB. I don't think they

(56:15):
had that then. Okay, Now the way was from the internet,
all right, right, forgot The other one was from Brenda Dad.
If I can survive the smog in the air, pesticides
in my food, and the crime on the streets, then
I can surely manage a couple of lousy cigarettes. Okay,

(56:37):
you're right, Brenda, go ahead. What is he supposed to
say to that? The cigarette thing was so like really
really annoying. Okay, wait, one more, one more, one more
on the Mrs T how you be? That's what everyone? Uh?
And then um Brandon says to you when he's giving
him you his pearls of wisdom, he says, anything you

(56:58):
can't do out in the open, isn't it worth doing? Random?
Is such a goody two shoes. And so I'm like, dude,
I love you can't do out in the open. You
can do a lot out in the open, now, I
just want to point out that's true. But still there's
a lot you can do behind closed doors that are
equally maybe more so fun. And my final one is

(57:21):
from you as Steve Sanders, get out of my space,
butt head, get out of my space. But head, you
know that's uh, that was definitely scripted because butt head,
butt head Beavis and butt head. I don't know, maybe
that's what it was. Is there a Steve Sanders line that,

(57:44):
like people say to you in the airport all the time,
is there like a line that stuck, you know, like
I choose me for Jenny, I think she'll Yeah, no,
there there's not one thing. There's so many. You know.
It's I don't know, learned from the master get the
first base faster? Remember that from when Steve started is

(58:07):
how to meet women. Course, I'm Steve Sanders, I have
a PhD. And women just so many like, yeah, it
has have been so much fun to write for your character.
But you would think so, I didn't see many words
on but uh but whatever, I don't know. I think

(58:28):
I I'm just reading my notes and I hate b J. Harrison.
I there's something I love about how I sort. I
was like, this is what I wrote because he says
to Steve turned up to be jerk to Steve, and
I literally wrote my notes, why is this tool giving
the key if he hates Steve, w T really get involved?

(58:50):
Mean to Steve? I was like, get lost. B J. Harrison,
who wrote this episode, I uh, let me go back.
Written by Karen Rosen and Darren Starr, So this was
our creator. It was a part of writing this one.
Yea good episode with with weird after school special moment.

(59:13):
It was it was written it was There was a
lot of writing in this episode, like I felt like
it was overwritten. I'm thinking that Darren probably did the
smoking stuff, or Darren did that legacy stuff and Karen
did the smoking stuff because she seems like much more
motherly and yeah, like oh no, no, shame on you

(59:34):
kind of. Yeah. I think she also, Oh my god,
I think Karen Rosen also wrote the episode where cancer. Yeah,
well it makes sense. I wonder if she wrote when
you had when Brenda had the lump. Maybe she really
likes a teaching moment, a teachable moment people. That'd be

(59:55):
interesting to see what particular writers that we had on
f put together all the episodes of what they wrote
to see if there's any common theme. And I would
say that there is a common thread in Karen Rosen's
work about that that that's it, that there's a lesson

(01:00:16):
to be learned. Yeah. She was always a very maternal presence,
like very motherly and kind of wanted to help and
very empathetic to everybody, So that would make sense. Yeah,
poor Andrea. They really make her look like a teacher.
It's like it was she in this episode. She had
two scenes. One she really looked teachery. She was like

(01:00:39):
in a blazer and talking to Brandon, and then there
was the Nikki scene where she's sort of like be
nice to Nikki, like what's your problem to Brandon, And
then there's that moment where um, Mrs Teasley or no,
somebody's like Mrs TEUs like yeah, and then tell nobody
running around like a crazy person to find Brenda to

(01:01:01):
be like I told you so. I don't know he
was real. He had a blue shirt in this one
button down that I was just like, you look great,
really great. You know, people watch the show for different reasons.
Clearly I could see what yours is doing. I just

(01:01:21):
got her takes me back every time. It's like, so
it's like a it's like a time travel. When I
watch it, I'm just back in college in the TV room,
all huddled up with my friends, Like it's it's really weird.
Like last night when I watched it, I'm like, I'm
just gonna watch ten minutes and then I'll do something
else and then I'm just completely like I watched the
whole thing. Wow, It's yeah, it's like a time travel.

(01:01:43):
I've seen people comment on our pages and things that
they don't think we really watched show. We do. We
watched when it first aired. I didn't watch the show.
I would see it once in a while, but we
were usually busy working, you know we, I said, I
mean like, I don't remember anything. But now watching it back,

(01:02:04):
it's like the first time I've seen it because we
didn't get the opportunity to sit down and watch it.
We're always working. I have the entire series in its
original presentation with original music on a hard drive. WHOA,
how did you get that? When did you get the
legacy key to the to the producer's office? Right? I

(01:02:28):
when we started going, when we went into syndication, I
started to go to the nappy conventions where they would
I wanted to learn the business of television syndication and
I got to know all the guys that were selling
our show. And as a thank you for me going
down there, when the show ended, they gave me the

(01:02:49):
entire Showy did they hand you a floppy disk? They were?
They were VHS tapes that I had for it. So
I'm gonna watch those with my kids one day. I
was gonna your kids have ever seen it? No, it's not.
I think it's on what's it on now? Hulu? Where

(01:03:12):
do you? Yeah? Amazon Prime? Is it on Amazon Prime?
Every I guess maybe you could buy. There's weird missing episodes,
totally weird, and I think it's music. There's probably right.
You know you're not gonna see watch it like there's
a great there's a great box set out there. I
don't know where. A friend fan friend of ours sent it, Crystal,

(01:03:36):
and it is all the episodes of the original show
and the episodes of pH nine two and oh all
on DVD. Oh that's great. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah,
So it's out there, just hard to find. I think
I think you might know some people you could pike
your hands on it. You got a feeling I know
a few you specifically, Steve looked good in that gray

(01:04:11):
shirt in this episode, just saying what about my fashion?
Your jeans were actually really good the whole episode. Um,
and you the shirts are fine. It is the way
too buttoned up high. It's not the shirt, it's just
the button. And it's sometimes it's the shirt because this

(01:04:31):
checkered like a picnic blanket on your pot and they
switched you to like a or you did apparently I
thought you had a wardrobe person. But now I'm learning
you liked shorty short shorts, but you have like just
like a gray long sleeved t shirt. It might have
had a bit of a mock turtleneck, which I wasn't
as into. But you looked good, looked good. If you
have legs like iron searings, legs, you show them off.

(01:04:54):
Let me tell you you got some damns. Look at
him who you can still stretch and bend even that
you're doing good? What's happening? I can't, no, no, no, no,
oh my god, take it off? What's happening? Look at

(01:05:18):
your physique, my friend? No, you look better. I don't
want to be a weirdo, but you look better now
to an indocioing like a fine one. This is this
is this is on radio. Right, we have Instagram. You
are shameless. He knows he looks sex. I know you

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look good. You look good. I can't. I gotta go.
You guys, how do you do that? Do you go
to the gym? How do you do do you work
out five days a week? Seventy? How? What's your regime? Yes?
What is your regime? I intermittent fast, just like I'm
shirt on backwards I'm so sorry. You can look Amy,

(01:06:05):
he's putting his clothes back on. It's fine. You're a
total babe. I'm just gonna say, you're complete babe. I
gotta go. What happened to you chips? Yep? He I
don't think Amy got to see that. Oh yes, Oh
my god, I wish I went to that one. I'm
sure we interviewed you for that. But yeah, yeah, you're

(01:06:26):
very handsome. I'm gonna act normal now, normal normal. You're
beautiful to Amy. Is there anything else to talk about
for this episode? Amy got the best day in my life.
Just the fashion and we talked about it. Well, Nikki
and vests, vests on women. I mean there was four
different vests on. Oh. I liked when Kelly had that

(01:06:49):
one dress on with like the t back yep. And
Tori had some great looks in this episode, two of
which I loved. And then is just funky and it's
super cool. Yeah, she's so different than anybody else on
the show. Yeah. We had several wardrobe designers over the
course of the show, and I think I think the focus,

(01:07:10):
you know, really, they put a lot more effort into
the women's clothes. Definitely, they did you know, because guys
were wearing jeans and shirts and it was like an
also Ran kind of situation where the focus was on
the women's clothes and they were beautiful, uh you know,
from Sundress and Doc Martin's to you know, whenever they

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got dressed up, the women always looked gorgeous. And the guys,
you know, Brandon, never wore anything that was special. They
just sim in blue with those eyes. Yeah, and then
they like those muscles. They like, all y'alls are muscles
for sure. You know David Silver, he his clothing was

(01:07:54):
out there kind of as well. You know, Steve's a
lot of Steve stuff. What they would give me the
shoes from was a bit outlandish, um and yeah, but
the women always like had beautiful shoes, beautiful clothes. You know,
they give us sneakers to wear or whatever, and it

(01:08:15):
really you know, it's come back to buy me. But
it's such an important part of the show, like I like,
it really is. The fashion is a character of itself.
And they would give me silk shirts to wear, and
I'm like, can we cut the sleeves off? This is ridiculous.
They were like puffy balloon sleeves. I have a lot

(01:08:36):
of this clothes at the end of the year. The um,
you have clothes, see Sanders clothes. I do. Yeah, Where
where are they right now? Are they closet in my closet?
Right now? I've got I've got a green silk shirt,
sleeveless show shirt that they that they tailored for me,

(01:08:58):
a purple shirt that I've worn. I gave Darren Martin
one of my shirts. You know, several ties. Oh my god,
you are so You're always so smart to take stuff.
You always are, like, I'll be putting this in my
car and take it. You know. I've got several shoes
and I still wear I mean, they bought me product

(01:09:19):
shoes that like, are so well made, beautiful black. You
know those shoes are thirty five years old. Now, yeah,
but like a man's dress, shoe hasn't really changed in
thirty five years. It's not too gorgeous. Vintage now, great,
I wore vintage shoes the other day. But that's cool.

(01:09:42):
That's what you want, that's leg I want to see
those shoes next time I see you. You best be
wearing those shoes. Vintage O G Yes, good, so good.
I love you both so much. It's weird. It's just
we love having you on the show meantime, but today
in particular. Thank you for stepping in and filling in

(01:10:04):
for pleasure Tour and just so nice to Every time
I see you makes me happy. It makes my day better.
Same here for you both. Actually it's nice. Yeah, you
are the sweetest person on the planet. Like you are
the best. I am. Thanks. It's nice to you to say,
regardless of how true it is. It's all true. It's
all true. Okay, everybody. Next week's episode is episode nine,

(01:10:28):
season three, high Wire, So let's all watch it so
we can talk about it. All right, everybody, have a
great week. By everybody. Bye, So good I thank you
are the best. Thank you for letting indulge me in
my my flirting. It's so funny. She does love you, Okay,

(01:10:53):
for reals, it's guys are so nice. Ouch, you don't
want to be the nice guy first, we don't think
I can go back and watch the Zoom again where
the shirt came off. I'm gonna watch that. Oh my god.
This week we're gonna get a lot of downloads. Hey, Randy,

(01:11:16):
I'm good height at the end of this month, dude, Randy.
We know we tried to not act crazy. We know

(01:11:37):
it's insane. I'm trying so hard to be professional. Just really,
it's like, it's great to hear your voice, Randy. Thanks
my pleasure anytime. Great, thanks for including me. I appreciate it.
I'll talk to you guys soon. Everybody, did you like that?

(01:12:06):
Like I did, I seem I tried so hard to
seem normal. You're still a little flushed. I gotta be honest.
First of all, I tried to seem normal. He's so sweet.
He's so so so sweet, he's so charismatic. But you
guys like he took his shirt off and I literally
could not act normal. I had to because I was like,

(01:12:28):
I can't I can't function, I can't do I can't
do this at me, I was like, let me see
show show me. I covered my face with my notepad.
I was like, I can't look. I'm gonna act so weird.
I literally just was, and that wasn't weird. Norm He's
so funny and cool. That's why I's so Oh my god,

(01:12:49):
that was so Somebody so sweet sent a message that
was like, I don't have any questions. I'm just so
happy for Amy. I love that person, and so I
hope everyone loved it as much as we did. Pitching
up with him have to like fan myself. I don't
know what to do. He's adorable, good guy,