November 23, 2023 • 32 mins
A Thanksgiving Surprise! Donna Martin and Griffin Stone reunite after decades! Tori and Jennie haven't seen Casper since the 90s and there's a lot of catching up to do. From his behind-the-scenes friendships to the slap heard around Beverly Hills, this was a real Season 5 treat!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nine OGE.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
With Jenny Garth and Tory spelling. Okay, everybody today on OMG,
we have a very.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
But crowds exploding was so guessed.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Spesual guest today on the pod tour since he was your.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Lover were Randy.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Oh my god, you guys look so beautiful. It's like
it hasn't even changed. You guys looked the same as
that in the nineties.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
In the nineties. Oh my gosh, is beautiful too. You
are saying that about a boy.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You haven't seen either of us since the nineties.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I haven't seen either of you since the night I
don't think.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I think we we've run into each other at events,
but it was not long after the nineties.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, it's not long at the nice quite a few years.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Starship Trooper days.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
That's nineteen ninety seven, so there is.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Still the nineties.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, still, So we haven't seen each other the nineties. Yeah,
I think I think I almost saw well. I think
I ran into you once Torri and in maybe the
early two thousands, but it was just briefly, and I
think you were going through something and I was going something,
so like crossing like that, and I think I saw
you too. I just it's been so long though it's
(01:26):
been it's been one hundred years.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh my love interest, Griffin Stone, Oh my gosh, this
was like Donna's first, like big love interest, like that
wasn't a main character.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, then you got you you you left me for
the Ray Pruet guy right after that. I know I'm
kind of a pumpkin headude or or something like that.
I think that was the line.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
You know what, in hindsight thirty something years later, I
think I got that one wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah maybe, Yeah, you guys are very You were committed
to the whole.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, you were still on the very pruit train until
we washed it back. And now she has a respect.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, because he know too late. So Griffin and Donna, Well,
if we ever do something else, you.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Never know, I would love that. That would be amazing.
I wanted to tell you. I wanted to get this
off right away. Your father, Uh was so good to me.
He was such a good man to me, and he
always believed in me. He come over here and he
would he just give me a hug, and he pulled
me over and he he then put me on a
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series afterwards, Titans. He just he always was thinking about me.
So you're your your father. I mean, of course you
guys were wonderful, and and and and Jason and Luke
were wonderful, but your your dad was something special to me.
So I just want you to know that I never
have never forgotten him, or his kindness, or his uh
his belief in me and uh and and I just
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was always had much gratitude. And I've never gotten the
chance to tell you how I was sorry about his
passing because he meant a lot to me. So I
just wanted to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Well he cared about you a lot too, and did
believe in you. He thought you were so talented. Obviously
you are very talented. He knows how to pick him, right,
he went on, I mean, look at your career, like, okay,
so how.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Did it go?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
So you were on NINEO tourrent, you were on One
Life to Live first, right, Yes.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
It was One Life to Live for a little bit.
And then I got when I came back out, I
got on nine on two. Oh, I had those those
I think it was supposed to be seven episodes. I
think we shot five. I think I shot five, And
what happened to.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Was kind of the seven Prime Time.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, it was one. It was, Yeah, it was. I
had had a show that competed with you. I know
what was it called. It was called Freshman Dorm. I
remember that show briefly. Yeah, I came on and uh,
I think I might have done that. I don't know
if that was afterwards, I can't know. That was in
nineteen ninety three, so that was before that was That
(04:07):
was before I was it was competing with Melrose Place
or something like that, or they thought they were going to.
But Steve Tish produced that. It had Robin Lively in
it and right and Matthew Fox and you know it
was and I played a surfer in that, and it
was before this guy from Jersey playing a surfer. So
it was kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So tell us how it happened for you, how you
got the role on.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
You remember, well, I just remember going to the offices
out which later we did shoot. We shot Titans at
the same place we shot nine O two and oh.
So when I was on.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Titans, wait, really in the same warehouse.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Same warehouse out in the valley. So what yeah? Yeah,
how long were you there?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
How many years were you stuck in that warehouse?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I only only one season. We got canned right away.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
We were there for were you were you locked into
the warehouse. I'm just as a friend.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I basically didn't want to go out. I was boarding
myself in you know, the you know, I was trying
to you know, everything was it was just similar. It
was just a similar place and and it just reminded
me of that. But it was the same casting office
and everything that we had. So I had to go
in an audition for that, and uh uh yeah, I was.
I was so excited when I gotten on or too,
(05:29):
because I uh had I auditioned for the other I
don't think I auditioned for the other roles. I don't
think I auditioned for the lead roles in that, but
I had always gone.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I don't think Brandon you would have been like a Brandon, right.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I think was seen more as like a surfer back
then or something like that. You know. It was so
funny because the first two roles I got when I
went to Hollywood were a lifeguard and a surfer.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I'm literally from early Dylan.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, and I went to a military school, to an
all guy military school. I grew up in Jersey, so
I grew up, you know, shooting and uh fighting and
doing all this other stuff. And then I I got
out to Hollywood and like, you co'd only play a
surfer and a lifeguard. And I'm like, this guy from
Jersey can only be a surfer? What the hell you're
talking about?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
And then you know you in an accent.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I did. Yeah, I used to talk like this. This
is how I talk. I'm from Jersey.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Can you keep talking like that please for the rest
of the interview.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I could totally talk like this for the rest of
that you were interview. I actually grew up.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I remember having a crush on you. Now it just
all went away, Okay, keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well, I actually, so you're saying you don't like guys
from Jersey.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
No, you just said it.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You just said you said you crush on me.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
But I'm totally about you. No, No, you're studying The
stage is very funny, very good. So you could have
gone into the military or go to Hollywood. Wait, so
vastly different.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yes, I yea.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
How do you make that choice?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I I grew up in the military family. I feel
very lucky. My dad was a Navy pilot. Both educator.
So I didn't really have a jersey accident except for
if I was with my friends. But I wasn't really
allowed to have it at home. It's not that I
wasn't allowed to have it, but my dad was like
talk proper. So yeah, so I grew up. You know,
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they're the reason why. So I grew grew up thinking
I was going to go in the military, went to
an all guy military school by choice, graduated operations officer.
I was third in command. I was in charge of
putting everybody to bed, wake them up. I had had
the most responsible abilities at that time. At that age,
I even had the key to the armory.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
All you were important, am I.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I don't know why they did that, but you know
there was a lot of checks and balances that they
had for that, so that I couldn't just get in.
But uh, I thought, I just uh. I went to
Then I went to Florida State, and I was going
to take a year off going to achool. They had
three girls every guy. For a little bit. I'm thinking
I was going to have more fun because I'd gone
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an all guy in military school by choice. And then
I thought. Then I got started taking theater, but my
parents had introduced me. My parents are both educators of
both teachers, and my mom's a nurse. And then my
grandfather's marine World War One and he also did vaudeville.
So they introduced me to Broadway and off Broadway, and I,
you know, in literature, so I read a lot, and
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I just grew up, you know, enjoying seeing movies and
stuff like that. I got hooked at an early age,
and I think I just went out to Hollywood to
just see what it would be like. And that was
thirty six years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
So how old were you when you went to Hollywood
for the first time.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I was nineteen.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
How long before you booked your first job?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Well, they said I was an overnight hit in nineteen
ninety seven when I got Starship Troopers when it came out.
But I got there September twelfth, nineteen eighty nine, and
I worked on nine two and oh, and I'd worked
on One Life to Live and I'd worked on that
Freshman Dorm series and a Dangerous Women's series and all
these other different shows and movies. But they said I
was an overnight success because they that's just what they.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Do, you know, they like to we always like to
take credit for you.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
By the way, I love the you guys in a
way you basically did. I mean, you got the biggest
deal to be on nine O two one oh was
one of the hugest deals. And you know, I don't
know if I'm sure you guys might have heard this,
but everybody always says to me, they used to say, oh,
nine O two one oho in space because it was
me and Diana Meyer who were on nine or two, right,
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Denise Richards and uh Patrick Patrick muldoon who were on
nine O two and oh, so we had we had
a We had a lot of people on there that
were so they called us. I used to say nine
O two one oh in space. So I even had
it then, which was cool. I loved it. I was like,
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you know, you know, and I had nothing. You know,
people would say, you know, they'd ask me about and
I was like, yes, you know, mister Spelling he'd cast
me in that, and I believe he took a chance.
I mean I always appreciated that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So O, hey, you're giving me drill sergeant energy right now.
I don't know, do you feel it to her? I
feel like you are.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You do you have kids?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
My kids are all grown.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Were you like a strict dad, like a like when.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You were in high school at your school, like did
you use your military training too?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I made my kids do uh squats and push ups
and oh no, but you do you know why when
they were arguing I'm getting yeah, I'm not kidding. When
they would beat each other up, I would go, okay,
ten squats and they would sit there and they'd be like,
and then ten ten jumping jacks and they start doing
and then they start laughing because they get them in
their body and out of their head, and then they
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start being and then they would laugh and like, dad,
you're so silly and they go off. Didn't never hit
my kids, never spank my kids never did anything like that.
But you know, ten pushs, you give me ten push ups.
You guys are fighting right now.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You pulled her or I feel like you need to
try this.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I feel like my kids would be like, are you
kidding me?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I would last, well, I don't know, I just get
I think that sometimes when we get you know, it's
also like go play outside like what we did when
we were kids. You know, the kids nowadays all they
are their things, so they don't have the same. You know,
when you get outside and you start doing that kind
of stuff it and you get do physical activity, it
(11:29):
gets you out of being in the depressions part of you,
or that anger and in your head. So I felt
like I never did it to be cruel. I wasn't
like I was some military sergeant, like I was like, hey,
you've got over here. But I would go, okay, that's
them push ups and I would do them with them.
So I didn't mind doing it with it. So I'd
sit down, I do the push ups with them, sit
ups with them, whatever it was. And if they kept arguing, okay,
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let's go do some more, or we go outside for
a run, or we go jump in the pool. So
I mean, well, I have one daughter who I mean,
they're all twenty to thirty, but I have one daughter
who is twenty seven who she was wandering Starship Troopers
and she is now on Strangers. She was on Stranger
Things last season. You guys see Stranger Things.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
She didn't watch the last season, so she.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Was Chrissy and Chrissy wake up that the cheerleader. And
so she is. I'm more famous now for being her
dad than cool. It is the coolest thing. You know.
People come up to.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Like, do you get recognized from Nina two?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
And Oh, I do? I do. I get I'm gonna
say it like this. I get that, Oh, you're the
guy that burnt the house the lesbians were.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
In, and I was like, we're not on that episode yet.
Spoiler alert, Oh spoiler.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
There's lesbians in a burning house. I know I was
on burning house.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Well you were, well, there was the long girl was
but I had happened there was one girl. That's what
she said to me. She said that, you know, and
my wife's pan saxual, so I'm you know, she she's
she dated girls and I just married me and my
daughter's pant circles. She liked girls and boys. So I'm
all in the family. I'm all support of it, of it,
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so I when I have to, I have to say that,
I always have a disclaimer because it's like, I am
not that guy. It was the way it was written.
I would never do that for any woman, So I
just go lesbian strange call in supporting the women. So,
but that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
People still recognize you for nine to two and No,
and I'm sure you get recognized for Starship trooper.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
That's the one I get recognized the most for as well,
was until Chrissy, until Gracie. Gracie was called Christ. That
a stranger thing because like, the dads will come up
to me at the cons and they'll go, you don't
even know who this guy is, right, And the girls
will be like, no, the thirteen fourteen, sixteen year old girls,
and then he goes, that's Chrissy's dad, and the girls
will start crying, and then they want to take a
picture with me. They could care less before their dads
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say that or the mom say it.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
But now, oh my gosh, I feel like I definitely
saw that now now that you're thinking, told said Chrissy
the cheerleader.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
She's the guitarist that plays, you know. He he he plays,
and he had the long to the great better actor
than I ever was. So that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Like we pass it down to our kids and they
are better at whatever we were good at.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I think that's how it's supposed to be, if we're
doing our jobs.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
You're the only one of my kids is an actor,
and she really gets She used to. She used to
come and sit and set and watch. So when I
was Tarzan, and she was. She was there when I
was in Sleepy Hollow with Johnny Depp. She'd be in
the background. She was always quiet, but always watching. She
reads a lot. All my kids read because it's just
something that that I got held back in first grade
because I couldn't read because I'm severely dyslexic. But I
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uh I, So it's always a challenge for me. So
in the beginning of my acting it was more difficult
for me. Now it's it's become a superpower. I can
memorize like that and and it's become sometimes extremely good
at But when I was younger, it was it was
more difficult for me. And of course being to Slexea
choose acting, which is probably one of the most confusing
things for it. But it actually worked out really well
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for me for that part.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Okay, can we talk about you and me now?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I want to ask you about Tarzan. I just want
to know about he.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Did play Tarzan a lot Tarzan by allegedly just.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
You just slipped in the word Tarzan and I was like,
oh my god, I forgot all about that.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Right was twenty of Tarzan? It was uh books. When
I was a kid, so when I got there when
they called me.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Was so cool as a guy to be like what,
I go, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Tall enough to be him. I'm only you know, I'm
only five nine and a half. And they're like, they're like,
and I'll go and that's a legit, five nine and
a half. I'm not one of those guys that says
I'm five nine and a half.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Oh my god, I love as an actor. You just
said five nine and.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
A half and a half. You know what it is
because there's a lot I throw it in. Well, the
guys come up to me to go, hey, you're about
my height and they they they're looking up at me
and they go, You'reboddy five eleven like me, And I'm like, no,
I'm only five nine and a half. I'm looking down
at these actors and I'm barefoot and I'm looking down
at them. I'm like, mm, so I'm honest when it
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comes to that apple boxes, whatever the apple.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Get back to Donna. Back to Donna. So everybody knows
that you were obviously Donna's love interest. I was you
were the guy at the frat. First of all, you
were you didn't were you in a frat when you
were in college.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
No, yes, I was. I was.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Is it was it similar at all to the cake house?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
You know, those were back in my drinking days, so
I think it might have been a little similar. But uh,
she remember, I don't when I was. I'm I'm almost
thirty years sober. I'm twenty nine and a half years sober,
so I haven't had a drink twenty nine, thank you.
But I just uh uh yeah, around nine too, and
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I was getting sober.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You were sober when we met.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, I was. I was sober when you. Yeah, I
was scared.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Just this took so much like balls for me to
be like, let's talk about you and me, And then
Jen skipped to the characters.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Well, sorry, I would make it would.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Be like I'm sure girls and boys always see things
differently as Brian Austin Green, but as the kids would say,
now behind the scenes, like we were talking a bit, Yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Were good friends. We were you know, like I said,
I was going through a divorce, so I was confused
at that point in time, but we were definitely talking
a lot. We were. I thought you, I thought of
he was a really good friend and and somebody that
I mean, I liked you. I liked you a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I liked you, you know, like what Brian said, A
really good friend. Damn, I can't get it right here.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Well, no, but you guys have.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Things we were like learning.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, yes, definitely.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But you also helped me. Yes, you were going through
a divorce, and I would like to say we were
for a short time there for each other because I
was going through a really hard relationship too, that you
actually were there for me and I had a very
abusive boyfriend and you were gave it a lot of
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advice and you were such a gentleman and worried about me.
And I just remember that and it meant a lot
to me. And you and I and Kathleen hung out
a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yes, Kathleen, that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, so it was. You were always very good to me.
So thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Well, I thank you too. I wish I could have
even been a better friend at that time. But you know,
when you have a kid and you're going through yeah,
you know how it messes with your head so much.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, we were going through two totally different things. You
were already here, you know, wife kid, and I was
like first boyfriend that was verbally you know, it's just
not aligned.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But what it was, I mean, we were very supportive
for each other. You were really awesome. I mean, you know,
you know if you know, I just I know that
I was in the headspace. It was like, I felt
like such a failure when when you have a marriage
and you're you're losing that and you're like trying to
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and like it wasn't it was already not going to
work out at that point in time. We were already
we were already awash. But I was like, I was
so messed up about that because I had taken those vows,
I had done all that, and I had really I thought,
but you know, we were just young, and I was
too hard on myself at the time. When we when
we make these mistakes and we're young, you know, it's
not her faults, not my fault. It's just we were
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young and that's the mistakes. But we had we got
two beautiful kids out of it, So I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Our journeys all happened for a reason.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, they do, they do. They're they're crazy and wow,
but it's I mean, it's amazing to see you guys,
and I'm so happy. No, I was like, when I
got the call for this, my wife's like, oh my god,
you have to do it. She loved by the way.
She loved you guys, and she loved she probably had
questions on you guys more than she would have on me.
So so.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
So learn.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
How did you How did you meet your wife?
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well? I had done a movie with her two years
before I got a divorce, but I didn't have any
scenes with her. She had scenes with my ex wife.
And I was asked to promote the movie. And the
producer called me up, Roger Corman, and he goes, Hey,
would you and your wife promote the movie? I hear
you're down at San Diego Comic Con. It's going to
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be on Sci Fi Channel And I go, Roger, I'm
getting a divorce. My ex wife is in Mexico with
her boyfriend, so you'll have to call her to ask her.
But yes, I'll promote. He goes, oh, I'm sorry to
hear that. Would you say hello to the other actor?
And I went, I met her and the day I
met her, she was best as wonder Woman because she
she does, she goes, she does charity events as wonder Woman.
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She also is a comedian and she'd been on Jimmy
Kimmelive thirty eight times as Wonder Woman. She was also
the reference model for Wonder Woman for Warner Brothers with
Actually you go in at Warner Brothers and they draw
her in costumes as Wonder Woman. She's just but she's
a beautiful. She goes to the Make a Wish Foundation
like once a month for the kids that want to
meet Wonder Woman when they're sick and stuff. She's really
just an amazing woman. Yeah, thank you. I met her
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and I was I was not. I hadn't dated anybody.
It'd been two years this time, so when my ex
wife and I were going through divorce, I just focused
on my work. I thought, I'm never getting married again.
That's my second divorce. I'm done and never doing that.
And then I meet her and we started dating. And
then I took a while to tell her, talk to her,
to meet her, and to introduce her to my kids.
But once I introduced her to my kids, after six
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months of dating her, all my kids, all my daughters
came to me and my stepdaughter at the time, and
they all said, if you don't I know, you said
you'd never get married again. But if you don't marry
this one, You're an idiot. This is for my daughter.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Huge.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
So yeah, it is huge because I literally was like,
I will never get married again. I will date this time.
I just I literally thought, I really suck at this
marriage thing. And I'm not very good. I've made plenty
of mistakes. I've made so many mistakes. I'm not an
innocent man or anything like that. I'm not some saint,
I'm not some great guy. I'm not I'm you know,
I'm a dude who's made a lot of mistakes. But
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I'm not willing to make him this time. I really
think I have somebody who really you know, everybody mattered.
Mix wives mattered to me too. You know they were
beautiful women and not going to negate any of that,
but it just didn't work out. We won't write for it.
Like you mix things. Sometimes you think it's going to
work and it might work for a little bit, but
it doesn't. And but I really have a deep soul
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connection with this woman, and uh, and she makes me
really strive to be in even better man, so that
that's what I needed and that's what I want, and
it really is. Yeah, are you third?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
She I'll let you know. Yeah, uh, am I allowed
to talk about your exes.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I'm not at them too.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm not going to really talk about them, but it
is we're talking about Aaron Spelling, and it is like
six degrees of Aaron Spelling because my dad was good
friends with your first father, your ex father in law
with Robert Mitcham, with Robert Mitcham, and you were married
to Carrie Mitcham and then Katherine Oxenberg obviously worked for
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my dad.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
So yeah, there's a lot of connections.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
There's a lot of connections with you and Aaron Spelling
and all the exes. And and when am I allowed
to talk about the fact that you did a reality show?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Oh yeah, that was.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I was at that one. I didn't tag it for
that type that you would ever do reality TV.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Well, I put my foot down and said I would not.
I absolutely to do it. And then my ex wife
was like, no, we're doing this, and I good premise.
You know, it's hard for me because reality it wasn't reality.
There's a lot of things that are said that you
then also can't say things too, and there's things I
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would never say because I wouldn't do that. I'm not
that kind of man, and so like doing a reality
show when you're not being real, it's really not who
I am, and it went against a lot of things
I tried to do it. I think I was probably
more grumpy in it than anything something.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I sorry, what was it called I married a Princess?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
No, yeah, that's exactly what I got it. Oh my god. Sorry, yeah,
you know, I don't. I don't watch reality shows and
I never have and I didn't even watch mine, so
I didn't. I wasn't. I'm not. It's not what I
watch is I'm so stupid because I watch I watch
movies all the time. That's what I do. I watch
old Westerns. I watch Western to day. I watched a
(25:07):
lot of your dad's Westerns. I've watched I find Him
and I'm like, oh my god, miss Pelly did the
Western and I watched.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I'm like, I just had to ask you, because I
remember when it came out. I was like, I'm probably
never going to get the chance to ask him this,
but I can't even from the short time we spent together,
I can't even imagine him being on a reality show.
So sorry, I never thought i'd get to ask you.
So there, I asked you.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Well, I'm actually grateful that you asked me that, and
I'm grateful that you did that disclaimer because if I'm
being authentically myself, no, there's no way.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
But also, I was do a lot of things for
our partners that we don't always want to do. Share
your guests.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
But then then I have to take full responsibility for
I did do it, So it is me. She she
didn't put a gun to my head, so you know,
it is that. And and they paid us a lot
of money, so you know that was you know, people like,
why'd you do it? I go, I got paid a
lot of money. So it took me away from a
lot of films. That was fortunate. I didn't like that.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
So what's next, what's happening right now?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Well, we you know, we just got over this strike,
but I got I just got to do a film.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
It's grateful. Your first guest after the strike, Well.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I'm so glad you guys had me on. I was
so thrilled about that. I just shot a film up
in Canada with Sean Patrick Flannery and that was that
was a lot of fun to work with him. I
had never really worked briefly. Oh my god, but he was.
He was a lot of fun to work with. And
it's interesting is he was offered the Tarzan movie before
I was, but he had to turn down because he
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had a previoate he had. He was he was had
another film that he had to do, so I got
that because he couldn't do Tarzan. He was offered it
before me.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
He seemed more like Tarzan.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Sweet, thank you. I loved the books when I was
a kid, and my dad's favorite. Yes, he was powdered
and he was young Indiana Jones. He's a good guy.
He's a he's a martial artist. He has a school
in Texas. He's he's the real deal. So he's a
real fighter. I just fight to look prettyan movies.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Well, you're clearly doing something right. You have something coming
up soon.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I have a couple of movies out right now, and
I have a couple I have. I just just finished
this one. It's called Ruthless Bastards with him. We're a
couple of hitman trying to trying to become better people.
And it's an action comedy buddy film, but we're like,
we're the Ruthless Bastards. So it was a lot of
fun working with him. He had he's we've been doing
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it combined like seventy years.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It's just you know, a long time in it. And
and then I have a couple of the movies out
right now. It's interesting. I get to play a lot
of villainous type characters now now that I'm older. So
it's and I was going to direct a movie and
I might still direct it in the spring, a baseball movie.
But it's kind of like an American graffiti but young kids,
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you know, in set in the eighties, which would be
fun because yeah, so I'm going to direct that one.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I'll do wardrobe.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Awesome, you'll do wardrobe on that, all right? Hit the
Tory spelling deal. Wow. I don't know if we can
afford you.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
A favor. We're old friends.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Oh I got I got this. I'm going to record this.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I think we are recording it.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Oh good, well, thank you, Yeah, thanks for coming on
our little pod.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Well I appreciate it, and I mean it. You guys
both look incredible. I'm so glad you're keeping this up.
And I do have a lot of people that come
up to me about nine o two and oh, all
the time. It's such a big part of my life.
I'm thrilled about it. I'll tag it in some of
my posts nine o two and oh sometimes I tag
it in my posts. I'm so happy for you guys
that this is going well. And if you ever want
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me on again, I would love to come on any time.
If you were going to talk specifics on the show
and I'm allowed to talk about it, I'll tell you
exactly what it is. I didn't always given spoilers.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Thirty years later, baby, we'll have you back when when
the big fire with the lesbian comes on.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
I did say that, didn't I.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Didn't. We still not at like the Universal Studio backlot.
Was there some part of the fire you guys?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Oh yeah, I remember that?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Was it there?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I don't remember where we filmed it.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I get I used to go you did that. I
can't believe you tried to burn the house down with
them in there. And I was like, I wouldn't do that.
But Griffinstone was not the best guy.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
No one got mad the way you treat it, Donna.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Would you call me Harlette a hussy? And teas? What
there was you had a very descriptive line of Donna.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Did I What did I say?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Oh, it was a good one. And I slapped you?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, you slapped me. That hurt?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
What did you didn't?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I think you were like, it's okay, you can do
it harder. I'm like so scared.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, I don't think you even hit me.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
What are you talking in that? I totally hit you.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I see you hit me so hard. I can't even
remember that.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I hate you. Her producer just told us you called
me a pathological tease. Never been called that before.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
That's pathological teas. Wow.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I don't even know how to dissect that.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I don't either, I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
It goes over my brain. But I guess he thought
she was a tease because she wouldn't give it up.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
But I mean, we have to ask the writer of
that one, because I don't even know what a.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Patholo pathological like if you're a pathological liar, Like.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, you're always teasing, so.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm always teasing. You just thought I was like the
ultimate like you know, chicken teas.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Wow, that's is that fair? That's a big put down.
You must have really slapped me really hard for that one.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I know my mom really liked you. Police Martin was
all about you on paper.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
On paper, Yeah, on paper, I sound like a much
nicer guy. Well, thank you guys for having me on this.
I appreciate it so much.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
And holidays you too and your lovely family.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yes, happy, thanks, give your wife our love.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I will ask any questions we're here, we're around.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Oh good, good, I will.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I will let it go into our DM slip slip slip, Nope,
slip and slide slip.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Into your d MS. Okay, I'll have her do that, perfect,
perfect not of love. You guys, Thank you, guys, thank you,
thank you. H
It's nine OGE.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
With Jenny Garth and Tory spelling. Okay, everybody today on OMG,
we have a very.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
But crowds exploding was so guessed.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Spesual guest today on the pod tour since he was your.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Lover were Randy.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Oh my god, you guys look so beautiful. It's like
it hasn't even changed. You guys looked the same as
that in the nineties.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
In the nineties. Oh my gosh, is beautiful too. You
are saying that about a boy.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You haven't seen either of us since the nineties.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I haven't seen either of you since the night I
don't think.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I think we we've run into each other at events,
but it was not long after the nineties.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, it's not long at the nice quite a few years.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Starship Trooper days.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
That's nineteen ninety seven, so there is.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Still the nineties.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, still, So we haven't seen each other the nineties. Yeah,
I think I think I almost saw well. I think
I ran into you once Torri and in maybe the
early two thousands, but it was just briefly, and I
think you were going through something and I was going something,
so like crossing like that, and I think I saw
you too. I just it's been so long though it's
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been it's been one hundred years.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh my love interest, Griffin Stone, Oh my gosh, this
was like Donna's first, like big love interest, like that
wasn't a main character.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, then you got you you you left me for
the Ray Pruet guy right after that. I know I'm
kind of a pumpkin headude or or something like that.
I think that was the line.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
You know what, in hindsight thirty something years later, I
think I got that one wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah maybe, Yeah, you guys are very You were committed
to the whole.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, you were still on the very pruit train until
we washed it back. And now she has a respect.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, because he know too late. So Griffin and Donna, Well,
if we ever do something else, you.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Never know, I would love that. That would be amazing.
I wanted to tell you. I wanted to get this
off right away. Your father, Uh was so good to me.
He was such a good man to me, and he
always believed in me. He come over here and he
would he just give me a hug, and he pulled
me over and he he then put me on a
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series afterwards, Titans. He just he always was thinking about me.
So you're your your father. I mean, of course you
guys were wonderful, and and and and Jason and Luke
were wonderful, but your your dad was something special to me.
So I just want you to know that I never
have never forgotten him, or his kindness, or his uh
his belief in me and uh and and I just
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was always had much gratitude. And I've never gotten the
chance to tell you how I was sorry about his
passing because he meant a lot to me. So I
just wanted to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Well he cared about you a lot too, and did
believe in you. He thought you were so talented. Obviously
you are very talented. He knows how to pick him, right,
he went on, I mean, look at your career, like, okay,
so how.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Did it go?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
So you were on NINEO tourrent, you were on One
Life to Live first, right, Yes.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
It was One Life to Live for a little bit.
And then I got when I came back out, I
got on nine on two. Oh, I had those those
I think it was supposed to be seven episodes. I
think we shot five. I think I shot five, And
what happened to.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Was kind of the seven Prime Time.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, it was one. It was, Yeah, it was. I
had had a show that competed with you. I know
what was it called. It was called Freshman Dorm. I
remember that show briefly. Yeah, I came on and uh,
I think I might have done that. I don't know
if that was afterwards, I can't know. That was in
nineteen ninety three, so that was before that was That
(04:07):
was before I was it was competing with Melrose Place
or something like that, or they thought they were going to.
But Steve Tish produced that. It had Robin Lively in
it and right and Matthew Fox and you know it
was and I played a surfer in that, and it
was before this guy from Jersey playing a surfer. So
it was kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So tell us how it happened for you, how you
got the role on.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
You remember, well, I just remember going to the offices
out which later we did shoot. We shot Titans at
the same place we shot nine O two and oh.
So when I was on.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Titans, wait, really in the same warehouse.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Same warehouse out in the valley. So what yeah? Yeah,
how long were you there?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
How many years were you stuck in that warehouse?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I only only one season. We got canned right away.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
We were there for were you were you locked into
the warehouse. I'm just as a friend.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I basically didn't want to go out. I was boarding
myself in you know, the you know, I was trying
to you know, everything was it was just similar. It
was just a similar place and and it just reminded
me of that. But it was the same casting office
and everything that we had. So I had to go
in an audition for that, and uh uh yeah, I was.
I was so excited when I gotten on or too,
(05:29):
because I uh had I auditioned for the other I
don't think I auditioned for the other roles. I don't
think I auditioned for the lead roles in that, but
I had always gone.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I don't think Brandon you would have been like a Brandon, right.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I think was seen more as like a surfer back
then or something like that. You know. It was so
funny because the first two roles I got when I
went to Hollywood were a lifeguard and a surfer.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I'm literally from early Dylan.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, and I went to a military school, to an
all guy military school. I grew up in Jersey, so
I grew up, you know, shooting and uh fighting and
doing all this other stuff. And then I I got
out to Hollywood and like, you co'd only play a
surfer and a lifeguard. And I'm like, this guy from
Jersey can only be a surfer? What the hell you're
talking about?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
And then you know you in an accent.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I did. Yeah, I used to talk like this. This
is how I talk. I'm from Jersey.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Can you keep talking like that please for the rest
of the interview.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I could totally talk like this for the rest of
that you were interview. I actually grew up.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I remember having a crush on you. Now it just
all went away, Okay, keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well, I actually, so you're saying you don't like guys
from Jersey.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
No, you just said it.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You just said you said you crush on me.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
But I'm totally about you. No, No, you're studying The
stage is very funny, very good. So you could have
gone into the military or go to Hollywood. Wait, so
vastly different.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yes, I yea.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
How do you make that choice?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I I grew up in the military family. I feel
very lucky. My dad was a Navy pilot. Both educator.
So I didn't really have a jersey accident except for
if I was with my friends. But I wasn't really
allowed to have it at home. It's not that I
wasn't allowed to have it, but my dad was like
talk proper. So yeah, so I grew up. You know,
(07:25):
they're the reason why. So I grew grew up thinking
I was going to go in the military, went to
an all guy military school by choice, graduated operations officer.
I was third in command. I was in charge of
putting everybody to bed, wake them up. I had had
the most responsible abilities at that time. At that age,
I even had the key to the armory.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
All you were important, am I.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I don't know why they did that, but you know
there was a lot of checks and balances that they
had for that, so that I couldn't just get in.
But uh, I thought, I just uh. I went to
Then I went to Florida State, and I was going
to take a year off going to achool. They had
three girls every guy. For a little bit. I'm thinking
I was going to have more fun because I'd gone
(08:07):
an all guy in military school by choice. And then
I thought. Then I got started taking theater, but my
parents had introduced me. My parents are both educators of
both teachers, and my mom's a nurse. And then my
grandfather's marine World War One and he also did vaudeville.
So they introduced me to Broadway and off Broadway, and I,
you know, in literature, so I read a lot, and
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I just grew up, you know, enjoying seeing movies and
stuff like that. I got hooked at an early age,
and I think I just went out to Hollywood to
just see what it would be like. And that was
thirty six years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
So how old were you when you went to Hollywood
for the first time.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I was nineteen.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
How long before you booked your first job?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Well, they said I was an overnight hit in nineteen
ninety seven when I got Starship Troopers when it came out.
But I got there September twelfth, nineteen eighty nine, and
I worked on nine two and oh, and I'd worked
on One Life to Live and I'd worked on that
Freshman Dorm series and a Dangerous Women's series and all
these other different shows and movies. But they said I
was an overnight success because they that's just what they.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Do, you know, they like to we always like to
take credit for you.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
By the way, I love the you guys in a
way you basically did. I mean, you got the biggest
deal to be on nine O two one oh was
one of the hugest deals. And you know, I don't
know if I'm sure you guys might have heard this,
but everybody always says to me, they used to say, oh,
nine O two one oho in space because it was
me and Diana Meyer who were on nine or two, right,
(09:38):
Denise Richards and uh Patrick Patrick muldoon who were on
nine O two and oh, so we had we had
a We had a lot of people on there that
were so they called us. I used to say nine
O two one oh in space. So I even had
it then, which was cool. I loved it. I was like,
(09:58):
you know, you know, and I had nothing. You know,
people would say, you know, they'd ask me about and
I was like, yes, you know, mister Spelling he'd cast
me in that, and I believe he took a chance.
I mean I always appreciated that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So O, hey, you're giving me drill sergeant energy right now.
I don't know, do you feel it to her? I
feel like you are.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You do you have kids?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
My kids are all grown.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Were you like a strict dad, like a like when.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You were in high school at your school, like did
you use your military training too?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I made my kids do uh squats and push ups
and oh no, but you do you know why when
they were arguing I'm getting yeah, I'm not kidding. When
they would beat each other up, I would go, okay,
ten squats and they would sit there and they'd be like,
and then ten ten jumping jacks and they start doing
and then they start laughing because they get them in
their body and out of their head, and then they
(10:48):
start being and then they would laugh and like, dad,
you're so silly and they go off. Didn't never hit
my kids, never spank my kids never did anything like that.
But you know, ten pushs, you give me ten push ups.
You guys are fighting right now.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You pulled her or I feel like you need to
try this.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I feel like my kids would be like, are you
kidding me?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I would last, well, I don't know, I just get
I think that sometimes when we get you know, it's
also like go play outside like what we did when
we were kids. You know, the kids nowadays all they
are their things, so they don't have the same. You know,
when you get outside and you start doing that kind
of stuff it and you get do physical activity, it
(11:29):
gets you out of being in the depressions part of you,
or that anger and in your head. So I felt
like I never did it to be cruel. I wasn't
like I was some military sergeant, like I was like, hey,
you've got over here. But I would go, okay, that's
them push ups and I would do them with them.
So I didn't mind doing it with it. So I'd
sit down, I do the push ups with them, sit
ups with them, whatever it was. And if they kept arguing, okay,
(11:51):
let's go do some more, or we go outside for
a run, or we go jump in the pool. So
I mean, well, I have one daughter who I mean,
they're all twenty to thirty, but I have one daughter
who is twenty seven who she was wandering Starship Troopers
and she is now on Strangers. She was on Stranger
Things last season. You guys see Stranger Things.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
She didn't watch the last season, so she.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Was Chrissy and Chrissy wake up that the cheerleader. And
so she is. I'm more famous now for being her
dad than cool. It is the coolest thing. You know.
People come up to.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Like, do you get recognized from Nina two?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
And Oh, I do? I do. I get I'm gonna
say it like this. I get that, Oh, you're the
guy that burnt the house the lesbians were.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
In, and I was like, we're not on that episode yet.
Spoiler alert, Oh spoiler.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
There's lesbians in a burning house. I know I was
on burning house.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Well you were, well, there was the long girl was
but I had happened there was one girl. That's what
she said to me. She said that, you know, and
my wife's pan saxual, so I'm you know, she she's
she dated girls and I just married me and my
daughter's pant circles. She liked girls and boys. So I'm
all in the family. I'm all support of it, of it,
(13:13):
so I when I have to, I have to say that,
I always have a disclaimer because it's like, I am
not that guy. It was the way it was written.
I would never do that for any woman, So I
just go lesbian strange call in supporting the women. So,
but that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
People still recognize you for nine to two and No,
and I'm sure you get recognized for Starship trooper.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
That's the one I get recognized the most for as well,
was until Chrissy, until Gracie. Gracie was called Christ. That
a stranger thing because like, the dads will come up
to me at the cons and they'll go, you don't
even know who this guy is, right, And the girls
will be like, no, the thirteen fourteen, sixteen year old girls,
and then he goes, that's Chrissy's dad, and the girls
will start crying, and then they want to take a
picture with me. They could care less before their dads
(13:54):
say that or the mom say it.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
But now, oh my gosh, I feel like I definitely
saw that now now that you're thinking, told said Chrissy
the cheerleader.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
She's the guitarist that plays, you know. He he he plays,
and he had the long to the great better actor
than I ever was. So that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Like we pass it down to our kids and they
are better at whatever we were good at.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I think that's how it's supposed to be, if we're
doing our jobs.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
You're the only one of my kids is an actor,
and she really gets She used to. She used to
come and sit and set and watch. So when I
was Tarzan, and she was. She was there when I
was in Sleepy Hollow with Johnny Depp. She'd be in
the background. She was always quiet, but always watching. She
reads a lot. All my kids read because it's just
something that that I got held back in first grade
because I couldn't read because I'm severely dyslexic. But I
(14:44):
uh I, So it's always a challenge for me. So
in the beginning of my acting it was more difficult
for me. Now it's it's become a superpower. I can
memorize like that and and it's become sometimes extremely good
at But when I was younger, it was it was
more difficult for me. And of course being to Slexea
choose acting, which is probably one of the most confusing
things for it. But it actually worked out really well
(15:06):
for me for that part.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Okay, can we talk about you and me now?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I want to ask you about Tarzan. I just want
to know about he.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Did play Tarzan a lot Tarzan by allegedly just.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
You just slipped in the word Tarzan and I was like,
oh my god, I forgot all about that.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Right was twenty of Tarzan? It was uh books. When
I was a kid, so when I got there when
they called me.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Was so cool as a guy to be like what,
I go, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Tall enough to be him. I'm only you know, I'm
only five nine and a half. And they're like, they're like,
and I'll go and that's a legit, five nine and
a half. I'm not one of those guys that says
I'm five nine and a half.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Oh my god, I love as an actor. You just
said five nine and.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
A half and a half. You know what it is
because there's a lot I throw it in. Well, the
guys come up to me to go, hey, you're about
my height and they they they're looking up at me
and they go, You'reboddy five eleven like me, And I'm like, no,
I'm only five nine and a half. I'm looking down
at these actors and I'm barefoot and I'm looking down
at them. I'm like, mm, so I'm honest when it
(16:20):
comes to that apple boxes, whatever the apple.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Get back to Donna. Back to Donna. So everybody knows
that you were obviously Donna's love interest. I was you
were the guy at the frat. First of all, you
were you didn't were you in a frat when you
were in college.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
No, yes, I was. I was.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Is it was it similar at all to the cake house?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
You know, those were back in my drinking days, so
I think it might have been a little similar. But uh,
she remember, I don't when I was. I'm I'm almost
thirty years sober. I'm twenty nine and a half years sober,
so I haven't had a drink twenty nine, thank you.
But I just uh uh yeah, around nine too, and
(17:05):
I was getting sober.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You were sober when we met.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, I was. I was sober when you. Yeah, I
was scared.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Just this took so much like balls for me to
be like, let's talk about you and me, And then
Jen skipped to the characters.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Well, sorry, I would make it would.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Be like I'm sure girls and boys always see things
differently as Brian Austin Green, but as the kids would say,
now behind the scenes, like we were talking a bit, Yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Were good friends. We were you know, like I said,
I was going through a divorce, so I was confused
at that point in time, but we were definitely talking
a lot. We were. I thought you, I thought of
he was a really good friend and and somebody that
I mean, I liked you. I liked you a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I liked you, you know, like what Brian said, A
really good friend. Damn, I can't get it right here.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Well, no, but you guys have.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Things we were like learning.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, yes, definitely.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But you also helped me. Yes, you were going through
a divorce, and I would like to say we were
for a short time there for each other because I
was going through a really hard relationship too, that you
actually were there for me and I had a very
abusive boyfriend and you were gave it a lot of
(18:21):
advice and you were such a gentleman and worried about me.
And I just remember that and it meant a lot
to me. And you and I and Kathleen hung out
a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yes, Kathleen, that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, so it was. You were always very good to me.
So thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Well, I thank you too. I wish I could have
even been a better friend at that time. But you know,
when you have a kid and you're going through yeah,
you know how it messes with your head so much.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, we were going through two totally different things. You
were already here, you know, wife kid, and I was
like first boyfriend that was verbally you know, it's just
not aligned.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But what it was, I mean, we were very supportive
for each other. You were really awesome. I mean, you know,
you know if you know, I just I know that
I was in the headspace. It was like, I felt
like such a failure when when you have a marriage
and you're you're losing that and you're like trying to
(19:24):
and like it wasn't it was already not going to
work out at that point in time. We were already
we were already awash. But I was like, I was
so messed up about that because I had taken those vows,
I had done all that, and I had really I thought,
but you know, we were just young, and I was
too hard on myself at the time. When we when
we make these mistakes and we're young, you know, it's
not her faults, not my fault. It's just we were
(19:45):
young and that's the mistakes. But we had we got
two beautiful kids out of it, So I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Our journeys all happened for a reason.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, they do, they do. They're they're crazy and wow,
but it's I mean, it's amazing to see you guys,
and I'm so happy. No, I was like, when I
got the call for this, my wife's like, oh my god,
you have to do it. She loved by the way.
She loved you guys, and she loved she probably had
questions on you guys more than she would have on me.
So so.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
So learn.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
How did you How did you meet your wife?
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well? I had done a movie with her two years
before I got a divorce, but I didn't have any
scenes with her. She had scenes with my ex wife.
And I was asked to promote the movie. And the
producer called me up, Roger Corman, and he goes, Hey,
would you and your wife promote the movie? I hear
you're down at San Diego Comic Con. It's going to
(20:41):
be on Sci Fi Channel And I go, Roger, I'm
getting a divorce. My ex wife is in Mexico with
her boyfriend, so you'll have to call her to ask her.
But yes, I'll promote. He goes, oh, I'm sorry to
hear that. Would you say hello to the other actor?
And I went, I met her and the day I
met her, she was best as wonder Woman because she
she does, she goes, she does charity events as wonder Woman.
(21:02):
She also is a comedian and she'd been on Jimmy
Kimmelive thirty eight times as Wonder Woman. She was also
the reference model for Wonder Woman for Warner Brothers with
Actually you go in at Warner Brothers and they draw
her in costumes as Wonder Woman. She's just but she's
a beautiful. She goes to the Make a Wish Foundation
like once a month for the kids that want to
meet Wonder Woman when they're sick and stuff. She's really
just an amazing woman. Yeah, thank you. I met her
(21:26):
and I was I was not. I hadn't dated anybody.
It'd been two years this time, so when my ex
wife and I were going through divorce, I just focused
on my work. I thought, I'm never getting married again.
That's my second divorce. I'm done and never doing that.
And then I meet her and we started dating. And
then I took a while to tell her, talk to her,
to meet her, and to introduce her to my kids.
But once I introduced her to my kids, after six
(21:48):
months of dating her, all my kids, all my daughters
came to me and my stepdaughter at the time, and
they all said, if you don't I know, you said
you'd never get married again. But if you don't marry
this one, You're an idiot. This is for my daughter.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Huge.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
So yeah, it is huge because I literally was like,
I will never get married again. I will date this time.
I just I literally thought, I really suck at this
marriage thing. And I'm not very good. I've made plenty
of mistakes. I've made so many mistakes. I'm not an
innocent man or anything like that. I'm not some saint,
I'm not some great guy. I'm not I'm you know,
I'm a dude who's made a lot of mistakes. But
(22:24):
I'm not willing to make him this time. I really
think I have somebody who really you know, everybody mattered.
Mix wives mattered to me too. You know they were
beautiful women and not going to negate any of that,
but it just didn't work out. We won't write for it.
Like you mix things. Sometimes you think it's going to
work and it might work for a little bit, but
it doesn't. And but I really have a deep soul
(22:46):
connection with this woman, and uh, and she makes me
really strive to be in even better man, so that
that's what I needed and that's what I want, and
it really is. Yeah, are you third?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
She I'll let you know. Yeah, uh, am I allowed
to talk about your exes.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I'm not at them too.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm not going to really talk about them, but it
is we're talking about Aaron Spelling, and it is like
six degrees of Aaron Spelling because my dad was good
friends with your first father, your ex father in law
with Robert Mitcham, with Robert Mitcham, and you were married
to Carrie Mitcham and then Katherine Oxenberg obviously worked for
(23:43):
my dad.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
So yeah, there's a lot of connections.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
There's a lot of connections with you and Aaron Spelling
and all the exes. And and when am I allowed
to talk about the fact that you did a reality show?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Oh yeah, that was.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I was at that one. I didn't tag it for
that type that you would ever do reality TV.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Well, I put my foot down and said I would not.
I absolutely to do it. And then my ex wife
was like, no, we're doing this, and I good premise.
You know, it's hard for me because reality it wasn't reality.
There's a lot of things that are said that you
then also can't say things too, and there's things I
(24:27):
would never say because I wouldn't do that. I'm not
that kind of man, and so like doing a reality
show when you're not being real, it's really not who
I am, and it went against a lot of things
I tried to do it. I think I was probably
more grumpy in it than anything something.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I sorry, what was it called I married a Princess?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
No, yeah, that's exactly what I got it. Oh my god. Sorry, yeah,
you know, I don't. I don't watch reality shows and
I never have and I didn't even watch mine, so
I didn't. I wasn't. I'm not. It's not what I
watch is I'm so stupid because I watch I watch
movies all the time. That's what I do. I watch
old Westerns. I watch Western to day. I watched a
(25:07):
lot of your dad's Westerns. I've watched I find Him
and I'm like, oh my god, miss Pelly did the
Western and I watched.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I'm like, I just had to ask you, because I
remember when it came out. I was like, I'm probably
never going to get the chance to ask him this,
but I can't even from the short time we spent together,
I can't even imagine him being on a reality show.
So sorry, I never thought i'd get to ask you.
So there, I asked you.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Well, I'm actually grateful that you asked me that, and
I'm grateful that you did that disclaimer because if I'm
being authentically myself, no, there's no way.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
But also, I was do a lot of things for
our partners that we don't always want to do. Share
your guests.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
But then then I have to take full responsibility for
I did do it, So it is me. She she
didn't put a gun to my head, so you know,
it is that. And and they paid us a lot
of money, so you know that was you know, people like,
why'd you do it? I go, I got paid a
lot of money. So it took me away from a
lot of films. That was fortunate. I didn't like that.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
So what's next, what's happening right now?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Well, we you know, we just got over this strike,
but I got I just got to do a film.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
It's grateful. Your first guest after the strike, Well.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I'm so glad you guys had me on. I was
so thrilled about that. I just shot a film up
in Canada with Sean Patrick Flannery and that was that
was a lot of fun to work with him. I
had never really worked briefly. Oh my god, but he was.
He was a lot of fun to work with. And
it's interesting is he was offered the Tarzan movie before
I was, but he had to turn down because he
(26:56):
had a previoate he had. He was he was had
another film that he had to do, so I got
that because he couldn't do Tarzan. He was offered it
before me.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
He seemed more like Tarzan.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Sweet, thank you. I loved the books when I was
a kid, and my dad's favorite. Yes, he was powdered
and he was young Indiana Jones. He's a good guy.
He's a he's a martial artist. He has a school
in Texas. He's he's the real deal. So he's a
real fighter. I just fight to look prettyan movies.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Well, you're clearly doing something right. You have something coming
up soon.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I have a couple of movies out right now, and
I have a couple I have. I just just finished
this one. It's called Ruthless Bastards with him. We're a
couple of hitman trying to trying to become better people.
And it's an action comedy buddy film, but we're like,
we're the Ruthless Bastards. So it was a lot of
fun working with him. He had he's we've been doing
(27:55):
it combined like seventy years.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It's just you know, a long time in it. And
and then I have a couple of the movies out
right now. It's interesting. I get to play a lot
of villainous type characters now now that I'm older. So
it's and I was going to direct a movie and
I might still direct it in the spring, a baseball movie.
But it's kind of like an American graffiti but young kids,
(28:20):
you know, in set in the eighties, which would be
fun because yeah, so I'm going to direct that one.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I'll do wardrobe.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Awesome, you'll do wardrobe on that, all right? Hit the
Tory spelling deal. Wow. I don't know if we can
afford you.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
A favor. We're old friends.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Oh I got I got this. I'm going to record this.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I think we are recording it.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Oh good, well, thank you, Yeah, thanks for coming on
our little pod.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Well I appreciate it, and I mean it. You guys
both look incredible. I'm so glad you're keeping this up.
And I do have a lot of people that come
up to me about nine o two and oh, all
the time. It's such a big part of my life.
I'm thrilled about it. I'll tag it in some of
my posts nine o two and oh sometimes I tag
it in my posts. I'm so happy for you guys
that this is going well. And if you ever want
(29:16):
me on again, I would love to come on any time.
If you were going to talk specifics on the show
and I'm allowed to talk about it, I'll tell you
exactly what it is. I didn't always given spoilers.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Thirty years later, baby, we'll have you back when when
the big fire with the lesbian comes on.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
I did say that, didn't I.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Didn't. We still not at like the Universal Studio backlot.
Was there some part of the fire you guys?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Oh yeah, I remember that?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Was it there?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I don't remember where we filmed it.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I get I used to go you did that. I
can't believe you tried to burn the house down with
them in there. And I was like, I wouldn't do that.
But Griffinstone was not the best guy.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
No one got mad the way you treat it, Donna.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Would you call me Harlette a hussy? And teas? What
there was you had a very descriptive line of Donna.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Did I What did I say?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Oh, it was a good one. And I slapped you?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, you slapped me. That hurt?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
What did you didn't?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I think you were like, it's okay, you can do
it harder. I'm like so scared.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, I don't think you even hit me.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
What are you talking in that? I totally hit you.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I see you hit me so hard. I can't even
remember that.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I hate you. Her producer just told us you called
me a pathological tease. Never been called that before.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
That's pathological teas. Wow.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I don't even know how to dissect that.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I don't either, I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
It goes over my brain. But I guess he thought
she was a tease because she wouldn't give it up.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
But I mean, we have to ask the writer of
that one, because I don't even know what a.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Patholo pathological like if you're a pathological liar, Like.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, you're always teasing, so.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm always teasing. You just thought I was like the
ultimate like you know, chicken teas.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Wow, that's is that fair? That's a big put down.
You must have really slapped me really hard for that one.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I know my mom really liked you. Police Martin was
all about you on paper.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
On paper, Yeah, on paper, I sound like a much
nicer guy. Well, thank you guys for having me on this.
I appreciate it so much.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
And holidays you too and your lovely family.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yes, happy, thanks, give your wife our love.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I will ask any questions we're here, we're around.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Oh good, good, I will.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I will let it go into our DM slip slip slip, Nope,
slip and slide slip.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Into your d MS. Okay, I'll have her do that, perfect,
perfect not of love. You guys, Thank you, guys, thank you,
thank you. H
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Jennie Garth
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