January 11, 2024 • 23 mins
Andrea Zuckerman has caught a bad case of laundromat love and we're kind of here for it!!
Especially after talking to James C. Victor who played medical resident Peter Tucker.
In this episode, we find out that he actually auditioned for a different role two years earlier but didn't get it!
And how did fans really feel about his adulterous character? Did he even know he would play "the other man" in Andrea's life?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nine O Genegen with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling. Today,
we are very excited we are being joined by one
of our amazing co stars from season five, actor James Victor.
(00:20):
He played Peter Tucker on seven episodes. Here's our chat
with James. Hi, Hey, how are you great?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh my gosh, you haven't aged at all.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I have it. Oh that's good to know you have
the exact same hair do that we're looking at a
picture of you on our computers here when you were
playing the character on nine O two and I Peter Tucker.
You have the same exact hairdo.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm thankful that I still have it. You can be
good hair, good jeans, I guess right.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Let me ask you a question. Does your mom have
good hair? And your mom's dad?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Actually, you know, I never met my mom's dad, but
that was the Ironically, I never found out that I
was Irish until I was in college. I always wondered
because of the hair color. I said, you sure, I'm
not Irish? And my grandparents used to tell me that
I was Northern Italian because my whole family's Italian. So
(01:21):
but yeah, I think Irish.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Part, how'd you find out you're Irish.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well, years later I saw a picture. I found a
picture of my mom's real dad, and I just I wondered, like,
I said, who is this person? And I found out
that they kind of, you know, because my grandparents, my
grandmother got divorced really early on, when my mother was
(01:49):
like two or three years old. They kind of it
was kind of shameful to admit that. I guess, so
I guess she was very proud, and so you know,
when she married, that was the only grandfather that I knew,
and I thought, you know, I thought he was my
biological grandfather.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Of Okay, but yeah, that's so fascinating.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
The hair because my brother and I have are the
only ones who have like strawberry blonde hair, and we
both have it and no one else has it in
the entire family. So it always been a weird thing
of a joke in high school of like, you know,
the milkman did.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
The milk Man?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You guys look amazing as well.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, it's really good to see you. We've just gotten
into the episodes where Peter, that's your character. Uh, you
are flirting at the laundromat with Andrea and then you
show up as the doctor in the ery she brings her.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Baby the doctor med Med is the med student or
he was.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What is young to be the doctor?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But yeah, yeah, but yeah, that was that was so
much fun.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
By the way, we just found out what happens we
we didn't remember and.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well into that. We haven't gotten to that episode on
the podcast rewatch, so we try not to spoil things
for our viewers or for me.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Hopefully viewers have seen it or the new you know,
going out to a whole new audience hopefully. Right. Yeah,
So when when you guys invited me to do this,
thank you so much. I hadn't seen the episodes in
so long. I actually tried to, you know, figure out
where I can watch them, and they're on Amazon right now.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
And good to know.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, so I know that, and seasons are on Amazon,
and so I was like, oh, you know what, I'm
going to watch some of these. But I thought it
was interesting that which one was it? You have You
Got to Have Heart was not? It skipped over it,
and I was kind of like on this mission of like,
what happened? Why is that one not there? Why are they.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Skipping that one on streaming?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, they want to save it. They want you to
be like, ok I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Think it's that.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Got more to do with this.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Who knows, I don't know, I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But uh, but is that one? Does that one come
after the laundromat and after the hospital? Yeah, when you're referencing, Okay,
maybe hopefully we get to see it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Sort of start. Yeah, there's the obviously, the flirting that's happening,
and the kind of random running into each other and
uh and then.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
The little fact of your character being married.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yes, yes, that is uh, well she's married.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, she's married.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Too, and you address that in our little telltale wedding
rings that we both avoided to notice.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So right, I don't think you guys she doesn't wear
her rings when she goes to the laundermeat Oh okay,
I just want to lose them. Yeah, that's true, that
type though her Andrea, Yeah, she didn't want to lose
her I believe she's very practical. She didn't want to
lose her rings at the laundromat. Okay, but I buy
that Peter purposely took his ring off when he saw
(05:15):
this hot girl at the laundromat.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, yeah, it was a little deceptive. Yeah, yeah, but
any kind of yeah. So but that was a fun
scene to film, and I was so excited to just
get this role because it was it was such an easy.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
M H fit.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I don't know, I don't know how to explain it,
but I don't know if you guys know that I
auditioned for the show once before what no tell us?
Years before I auditioned about two years earlier, I had
auditioned for I don't know, it was a it was
a drama teacher during summer school. I don't know if
you remember that. The actor, the young Elvis Presley who
(06:01):
ended up getting it, I think I don't know his name,
but yeah, And so I auditioned for that, and I
have to say it was I don't know. I came
up with this crazy, fun, out of the box audition
and it went so well, and then I got a callback.
And when I realized, like my agent didn't tell me
(06:23):
that it was, I just assumed like it was a
callback for a guest star, and I was going to
producers and when I got there there was all of
these former series regulars and I had I'd never been
to network before, and so when I actually got in
the room, there was about about like fifty people sitting
(06:45):
there scary, right, and I totally bombed. I did. I froze,
and yeah, it was just it was the first time
that that had happened, and it was kind of just
such a I should have.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, but then you made the bed and not the part.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, wow.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It worked out better, which I don't know if that happens,
It feels like it happens rarely. But to have it
come back around like that a couple of years later
and to get this role was was just like a blessing.
I was just like, oh my god. It was just
you know, you have to tell yourself like that that
maybe things happened for a reason. But I just remember, yeah,
(07:30):
just feeling like, oh my god, I got another opportunity
to Did.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You know that it would be a seven episode sort
of big, huge character arc for one of the main characters.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I didn't. I didn't at the time. Now yeah I didn't.
It was just like I think it was the only
time I went into an audition where the producers actually
said they had me read for also the student activist,
and they were like, oh, wow, you're so perfect for
this one too. We don't know which one to cast you,
because usually nobody tells you a thing when you're in
(08:01):
the room, right, But they were so open about it,
and it just put me really at ease. I felt like, wow,
this is this is so so great.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And had you watched the show before because it had
been on for four seasons before you joined?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Four seasons and I had. I had watched the first season,
but I hadn't seen it since the first season.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Wait, you, guys, I got to go back to something.
I'm so sorry. What when you went to network? I know,
sorry you didn't get that role, but so much better
this role? Right, the drama school teacher Summer School? Was
he meant to be a series regular? Like if he
went to network?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, that's what was so confusing. Confusing he wasn't. I
wasn't supposed to be a series regular. I went in
under the impression that it was just a guest star.
I felt like it was similar to this role of Peter,
where it was a guest star possible recurring, but maybe
it was already a guaranteed recurring for the whole summer.
(09:09):
And so that's why when I first got there and
I was surprised, I was like, wait a second, there
was all these series regulars, like I recognized that guy
from Coach and I recognized this guy, and I was
just kind of like, I didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
One number did they put you in when you went
in the room.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, I don't know what number. But my kid called
me afterwards. My agent called me afterwards, and he was
just like, what happened? You were their first choice and
they just don't know what happened. And I was like,
I was their first choice. I said, it would have
been nice to have some information. By the way I'm
being prepared. I was so thrown and was not expecting
(09:48):
because I guess it wasn't. I mean, that's network, right,
I mean there were fifty people on a couch and
and your father sitting in the middle. So I was anyway,
But I get it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We've all been there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Do you get recognized by people as Peter?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Do You?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Not?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Not anymore?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Because if I were to see you, like at the
grocery store, I would look at you and be like,
I know that guy from somewhere.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, because that fa I still look similar. But I
had gotten recognized up until about honestly, up until about
probably in my forties, I was still getting recognized, and
I have to be honest, I had no idea doing
the show the power that it actually had, Like after
(10:39):
I did the show, I mean obviously just you think
having a recurring role. I had no idea that people
would recognize me as much as they did or where
honestly I could. I mean, my biggest memory is being
at an Elton John and Billy Joel concert. Someone before
it started came down from the stands and tapped me
on the shoulder, so it's like, oh, you're that guy
(11:01):
from I and I was. I was really taken aback
because that was the first time something like that had
happened to me.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So did SAMs get mad at you? Like it's Andrea?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Like, I guess I'm thinking so many characters like that,
they didn't like what they were doing on the show,
and they like hated them in real life. It's like,
it's just a character.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Did that happen?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
No, I had, no, I never happened, you know, that
had never come up. I had never I had gotten
fan mail, and it seemed like it was all positive.
It was like no one ever said, like, how can
you do that to Andrea? What's wrong with you. It
was more like I had still gotten fan mail saying, oh,
we're so sorry to see you go. And even that
(11:46):
last episode where I'm kind of like, you know, not
very nice, and she's she's.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Really haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yes, okay, you'll be you'll be surprised. You'll be surprised.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
So in the end, it's not nice, and you still
didn't get fans mad at you.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Hey he got no hate. Well there was no internet then,
so maybe that was the stuff I know.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
But I'm thinking, like it's it's on the same season
that Jamie Walters is in who plays Ray with Donna,
and because later on he goes on to not be
nice to Donna, fans got really mad.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
So I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Why fans didn't get mad at not you, but you Peter.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Ray seemed like I just watched them. Yeah, I just
watched like most of the episodes just over, you know,
the last couple of days, and Ray seemed like he
was a lot meaner than me. He seemed like, I
don't know, demons, yeah, yeah, I mean, or he seemed
like he was. Yeah, he seemed like he just I
(12:46):
don't know. The moody, brooding, kind of bad boy guy.
But I think I was just maybe my character just
seemed to be having more fun, you know. I think
I was excited to be.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You know, I don't know character is super likable, that's true.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, yeah, you know, the most that I'd ever gotten
was people actually would say to me like, are you
that guy from And then I'd be like no, no, no,
and then they would say come on, come on mine.
I'd finally go yeah, and they go, no, you're not
shut up. Let me see your driver's license, prove it
to me.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, it was funny that that happened.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You work so much in your early career. You were
on an episode of Cheers, one of the best sitcoms
ever made television history. What was that like?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, that was amazing. That was my first job in
Los Angeles. Oh yeah, that was so much fun, just
to be on that kind of iconic show, you know. Yeah,
that was that was great story too, because I was
in a play in Los Angeles and I you know
at the time when you used to send out postcards,
(14:07):
and I sent out postcards to casting people to come
see me. And Jeff Greenberg he actually he actually responded
and said that he wished he could have come because
he was going out of town and he couldn't make it.
But he did respond n Yeah, that was really nice.
(14:29):
And then something happened and he showed up. He actually
showed up and a week later, a week later, he
called me in to audition, and it was at that
time I was so excited. I remember the audition I
actually brought, you know, I brought in like I jumped
on the couch that he had in his office and
I sat on the back of the couch and it
(14:51):
was probably h too much. I wouldn't do that now,
but it was. I ended up getting it, and so
that was like a nice way to get a job
like that, you know, for being proactive and sending it.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, taking matters in your own hands.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah at that time when yeah, so that was yeah,
that was That was like my first job in LA
It's not on IMDb, but I had done when I
was you know, I'm from New Jersey, so uh, I
studied in New York and so I was in the
really young kind of when I was like thirteen years old,
(15:31):
and I ended up booking a job on World. According
to Garth in the movie.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
So that was like my first job and that was
just an interesting to be on the set with, you know,
with Robin Williams.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And do you say thirteen.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, wow, yeah I was. I was twelve or thirteen thirteen,
I think, yeah, yeah, I just played a young wrestler.
I told one joke, and the joke was, what's the
deafer of a brazier? It's an over the shoulder boulder holder.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Still, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
That that was one line.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Awesome line, over the shoulder boulder holder. I love that.
I've said that a million times.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah, that was that was the joke.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So you've stayed really busy through the years. What are
you working on now? Where are you living, what are
you working on? Tell us give us an update.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
What's going on? Yeah, I mean this is still like
my first passion, I will, you know, honestly, I hope
that I get another opportunity on a show like, you know,
like to One now because that show was just so
amazing and it was such a fun job. But right now,
(16:46):
I've been honestly, since the Pandemic, you know, I'd worked
with Justine Bateman on a movie that she directed called
Violet with Olivia Mon and that was really fun to do.
Awesome and yeah, and then but during the pandemic, my
parents needed help, so I kind of been going back
(17:09):
and forth. They live in Las Vegas now, so that's
where I am right now. I'm kind of helping out
my dad as my dad has gotten sick and he
has some health issues, and so I'm kind of juggling now.
I'm thankful though that, you know, I've had to be
able to spend time, you know, with them more than
(17:30):
I would have. Yeah, because of the pandemic. It's just
kind of and it wasn't COVID that they got sick with,
so it was kind of just weird timing. But I'm able.
I'm happy that I'm able to help out and just
kind of step in be able to Since they're in Vegas,
I can go back and forth between Los Angeles and Vegas.
And also with the remote auditioning where you can do
(17:51):
self tapes.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Online now and do things like this like talk to me. Yeah,
this is so awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Really helpful is well, and and yeah, so you know,
I've been doing a lot of writing. I've written a
couple of scripts that I'm kind of in the process
of trying to to get made and you know, which
is not an easy task.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, it sounds like your priorities have just sort of
shifted as they as they do sometimes and and you'll
never know when another shift will come and you'll be
doing something completely different. But really, kudos to you for
stepping up for your parents. And I mean, you know
(18:34):
what it's like to be a caregiver. It's a lot,
and so.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
It's been challenging. But yeah, but I'm I'm I'm happy
that I've been able to to stay connected to this.
And yes, it sort of kind of took a back
seat during the pandemic as I guess we had a
big break as well.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Everyone.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, and then going into the writer strike and then
the actors strike, say, it seems like it's been like, wow, you.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Know, yours a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
That's what it feels like. Yeah, that's been a big break,
and so it actually has got given me a little
more time to focus on this, this kind of caregiving
and also writing.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So, like I said, that's good, like keep your creative
juices working and you never know, like something will happen
and things will.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Change that juices.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'm sorry, but it's just really nice to talk to
you and see your face, and.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You know, I know this is the first time we're
actually meeting because on the set, I really, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
We never met you.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I know, come on, we have to have met. I
met you, Gabrielle and Mark with Mark actually awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, you know, I see each other periodically and we
go have lunch.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
He's great.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And and so Actually, and it was Luke. You know
that I met him because you know, he was in
one of the episodes that I was in.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Right, Yeah, so I know I met you.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Maybe we met in the hall passing. I think, you know,
I remember I passed by Tiffany's room once. She's just
me a wave, welcome to the show. Wow.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Must have seen each other in the trailer and wardrobe.
I'm still focused on that.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, she'll DM you later when you actually met, and.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'll literally remember it at some point.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I remember, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is
like the thirty year anniversary of that season.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I guess is it thirty there's numbers.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Grow out, numbers don't numbers that is not that is.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
That It seems like more than that, honestly, But maybe
for this episode because this was in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Four, Right, so that's what I'm saying, we're.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
In twenty twenty four, makes sense?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, in season five because I was in season five,
so yep, midway now. It was kind of like I
got so comfortable on the show that I didn't feel
like a series regular. I was just like, well, I'm
not what's going?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Well, We're glad you feel comfortable.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I did. I felt comfortable.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, what would have happened if they
had kept you guys together? What would have happened?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Like Jesse would be out?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Who knows? They could have gone a million different ways
that I kept its secret for a very.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Long about that sometimes like what if?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
What if? Yeah? I know that's true. What if? But
how long have you guys been doing this podcast? Is it?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Five seasons?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Five?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Five seasons, five and a half seasons? Now? It's really fun.
We're having a lot of fun and loving going back
and talking to some of the pivotal guests star is
like yourself, Yes, thank you, and just reconnecting and touch
base about where they are and what the experience was
like for them. So thank you for sharing your story
with us and spending some time with us.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, no, it was. It was really wonderful. So thank
you for inviting me and having me and getting to
go down memory lane a little bit. And uh it
was a pleasure to actually for me to go back
and watch myself and I was like, is that me? Holy?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah right, yeah, give yourself a little pat on the back.
You're awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Definitely met you.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Thank you, thank you. She's still on it, she's.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Just talking about it.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's been a while and uh,
we didn't have any scenes together, so.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
No, I know, I have a photographic memory, so I
definitely am remembering you right now.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I'll figure it out. And that's right.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I'll slide into your dam to let you know we
are you on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, uh huh, I am that's right.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Tell everybody it's your handle. What's your handle there?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It sounds weird at James C. Victor one, At James C.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Victor one. We will look for you, yes, okay, Thank
you all the best. To your parents, thank you, We'll
see you out there.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
To your scripts coming to Fruition.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
The Mind, thank you so much. It was really great
to see you guys, and thanks
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You, James, thank you all right, thank you
It's nine O Genegen with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling. Today,
we are very excited we are being joined by one
of our amazing co stars from season five, actor James Victor.
(00:20):
He played Peter Tucker on seven episodes. Here's our chat
with James. Hi, Hey, how are you great?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh my gosh, you haven't aged at all.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I have it. Oh that's good to know you have
the exact same hair do that we're looking at a
picture of you on our computers here when you were
playing the character on nine O two and I Peter Tucker.
You have the same exact hairdo.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm thankful that I still have it. You can be
good hair, good jeans, I guess right.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Let me ask you a question. Does your mom have
good hair? And your mom's dad?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Actually, you know, I never met my mom's dad, but
that was the Ironically, I never found out that I
was Irish until I was in college. I always wondered
because of the hair color. I said, you sure, I'm
not Irish? And my grandparents used to tell me that
I was Northern Italian because my whole family's Italian. So
(01:21):
but yeah, I think Irish.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Part, how'd you find out you're Irish.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well, years later I saw a picture. I found a
picture of my mom's real dad, and I just I wondered, like,
I said, who is this person? And I found out
that they kind of, you know, because my grandparents, my
grandmother got divorced really early on, when my mother was
(01:49):
like two or three years old. They kind of it
was kind of shameful to admit that. I guess, so
I guess she was very proud, and so you know,
when she married, that was the only grandfather that I knew,
and I thought, you know, I thought he was my
biological grandfather.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Of Okay, but yeah, that's so fascinating.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
The hair because my brother and I have are the
only ones who have like strawberry blonde hair, and we
both have it and no one else has it in
the entire family. So it always been a weird thing
of a joke in high school of like, you know,
the milkman did.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
The milk Man?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You guys look amazing as well.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, it's really good to see you. We've just gotten
into the episodes where Peter, that's your character. Uh, you
are flirting at the laundromat with Andrea and then you
show up as the doctor in the ery she brings her.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Baby the doctor med Med is the med student or
he was.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What is young to be the doctor?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But yeah, yeah, but yeah, that was that was so
much fun.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
By the way, we just found out what happens we
we didn't remember and.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well into that. We haven't gotten to that episode on
the podcast rewatch, so we try not to spoil things
for our viewers or for me.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Hopefully viewers have seen it or the new you know,
going out to a whole new audience hopefully. Right. Yeah,
So when when you guys invited me to do this,
thank you so much. I hadn't seen the episodes in
so long. I actually tried to, you know, figure out
where I can watch them, and they're on Amazon right now.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
And good to know.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, so I know that, and seasons are on Amazon,
and so I was like, oh, you know what, I'm
going to watch some of these. But I thought it
was interesting that which one was it? You have You
Got to Have Heart was not? It skipped over it,
and I was kind of like on this mission of like,
what happened? Why is that one not there? Why are they.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Skipping that one on streaming?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, they want to save it. They want you to
be like, ok I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Think it's that.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Got more to do with this.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Who knows, I don't know, I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But uh, but is that one? Does that one come
after the laundromat and after the hospital? Yeah, when you're referencing, Okay,
maybe hopefully we get to see it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Sort of start. Yeah, there's the obviously, the flirting that's happening,
and the kind of random running into each other and
uh and then.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
The little fact of your character being married.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yes, yes, that is uh, well she's married.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, she's married.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Too, and you address that in our little telltale wedding
rings that we both avoided to notice.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So right, I don't think you guys she doesn't wear
her rings when she goes to the laundermeat Oh okay,
I just want to lose them. Yeah, that's true, that
type though her Andrea, Yeah, she didn't want to lose
her I believe she's very practical. She didn't want to
lose her rings at the laundromat. Okay, but I buy
that Peter purposely took his ring off when he saw
(05:15):
this hot girl at the laundromat.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, yeah, it was a little deceptive. Yeah, yeah, but
any kind of yeah. So but that was a fun
scene to film, and I was so excited to just
get this role because it was it was such an easy.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
M H fit.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I don't know, I don't know how to explain it,
but I don't know if you guys know that I
auditioned for the show once before what no tell us?
Years before I auditioned about two years earlier, I had
auditioned for I don't know, it was a it was
a drama teacher during summer school. I don't know if
you remember that. The actor, the young Elvis Presley who
(06:01):
ended up getting it, I think I don't know his name,
but yeah, And so I auditioned for that, and I
have to say it was I don't know. I came
up with this crazy, fun, out of the box audition
and it went so well, and then I got a callback.
And when I realized, like my agent didn't tell me
(06:23):
that it was, I just assumed like it was a
callback for a guest star, and I was going to
producers and when I got there there was all of
these former series regulars and I had I'd never been
to network before, and so when I actually got in
the room, there was about about like fifty people sitting
(06:45):
there scary, right, and I totally bombed. I did. I froze,
and yeah, it was just it was the first time
that that had happened, and it was kind of just
such a I should have.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, but then you made the bed and not the part.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, wow.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It worked out better, which I don't know if that happens,
It feels like it happens rarely. But to have it
come back around like that a couple of years later
and to get this role was was just like a blessing.
I was just like, oh my god. It was just
you know, you have to tell yourself like that that
maybe things happened for a reason. But I just remember, yeah,
(07:30):
just feeling like, oh my god, I got another opportunity
to Did.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You know that it would be a seven episode sort
of big, huge character arc for one of the main characters.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I didn't. I didn't at the time. Now yeah I didn't.
It was just like I think it was the only
time I went into an audition where the producers actually
said they had me read for also the student activist,
and they were like, oh, wow, you're so perfect for
this one too. We don't know which one to cast you,
because usually nobody tells you a thing when you're in
(08:01):
the room, right, But they were so open about it,
and it just put me really at ease. I felt like, wow,
this is this is so so great.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And had you watched the show before because it had
been on for four seasons before you joined?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Four seasons and I had. I had watched the first season,
but I hadn't seen it since the first season.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Wait, you, guys, I got to go back to something.
I'm so sorry. What when you went to network? I know,
sorry you didn't get that role, but so much better
this role? Right, the drama school teacher Summer School? Was
he meant to be a series regular? Like if he
went to network?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, that's what was so confusing. Confusing he wasn't. I
wasn't supposed to be a series regular. I went in
under the impression that it was just a guest star.
I felt like it was similar to this role of Peter,
where it was a guest star possible recurring, but maybe
it was already a guaranteed recurring for the whole summer.
(09:09):
And so that's why when I first got there and
I was surprised, I was like, wait a second, there
was all these series regulars, like I recognized that guy
from Coach and I recognized this guy, and I was
just kind of like, I didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
One number did they put you in when you went
in the room.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, I don't know what number. But my kid called
me afterwards. My agent called me afterwards, and he was
just like, what happened? You were their first choice and
they just don't know what happened. And I was like,
I was their first choice. I said, it would have
been nice to have some information. By the way I'm
being prepared. I was so thrown and was not expecting
(09:48):
because I guess it wasn't. I mean, that's network, right,
I mean there were fifty people on a couch and
and your father sitting in the middle. So I was anyway,
But I get it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We've all been there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Do you get recognized by people as Peter?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Do You?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Not?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Not anymore?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Because if I were to see you, like at the
grocery store, I would look at you and be like,
I know that guy from somewhere.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, because that fa I still look similar. But I
had gotten recognized up until about honestly, up until about
probably in my forties, I was still getting recognized, and
I have to be honest, I had no idea doing
the show the power that it actually had, Like after
(10:39):
I did the show, I mean obviously just you think
having a recurring role. I had no idea that people
would recognize me as much as they did or where
honestly I could. I mean, my biggest memory is being
at an Elton John and Billy Joel concert. Someone before
it started came down from the stands and tapped me
on the shoulder, so it's like, oh, you're that guy
(11:01):
from I and I was. I was really taken aback
because that was the first time something like that had
happened to me.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So did SAMs get mad at you? Like it's Andrea?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Like, I guess I'm thinking so many characters like that,
they didn't like what they were doing on the show,
and they like hated them in real life. It's like,
it's just a character.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Did that happen?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
No, I had, no, I never happened, you know, that
had never come up. I had never I had gotten
fan mail, and it seemed like it was all positive.
It was like no one ever said, like, how can
you do that to Andrea? What's wrong with you. It
was more like I had still gotten fan mail saying, oh,
we're so sorry to see you go. And even that
(11:46):
last episode where I'm kind of like, you know, not
very nice, and she's she's.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Really haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yes, okay, you'll be you'll be surprised. You'll be surprised.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
So in the end, it's not nice, and you still
didn't get fans mad at you.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Hey he got no hate. Well there was no internet then,
so maybe that was the stuff I know.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
But I'm thinking, like it's it's on the same season
that Jamie Walters is in who plays Ray with Donna,
and because later on he goes on to not be
nice to Donna, fans got really mad.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
So I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Why fans didn't get mad at not you, but you Peter.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Ray seemed like I just watched them. Yeah, I just
watched like most of the episodes just over, you know,
the last couple of days, and Ray seemed like he
was a lot meaner than me. He seemed like, I
don't know, demons, yeah, yeah, I mean, or he seemed
like he was. Yeah, he seemed like he just I
(12:46):
don't know. The moody, brooding, kind of bad boy guy.
But I think I was just maybe my character just
seemed to be having more fun, you know. I think
I was excited to be.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You know, I don't know character is super likable, that's true.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, yeah, you know, the most that I'd ever gotten
was people actually would say to me like, are you
that guy from And then I'd be like no, no, no,
and then they would say come on, come on mine.
I'd finally go yeah, and they go, no, you're not
shut up. Let me see your driver's license, prove it
to me.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, it was funny that that happened.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You work so much in your early career. You were
on an episode of Cheers, one of the best sitcoms
ever made television history. What was that like?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, that was amazing. That was my first job in
Los Angeles. Oh yeah, that was so much fun, just
to be on that kind of iconic show, you know. Yeah,
that was that was great story too, because I was
in a play in Los Angeles and I you know
at the time when you used to send out postcards,
(14:07):
and I sent out postcards to casting people to come
see me. And Jeff Greenberg he actually he actually responded
and said that he wished he could have come because
he was going out of town and he couldn't make it.
But he did respond n Yeah, that was really nice.
(14:29):
And then something happened and he showed up. He actually
showed up and a week later, a week later, he
called me in to audition, and it was at that
time I was so excited. I remember the audition I
actually brought, you know, I brought in like I jumped
on the couch that he had in his office and
I sat on the back of the couch and it
(14:51):
was probably h too much. I wouldn't do that now,
but it was. I ended up getting it, and so
that was like a nice way to get a job
like that, you know, for being proactive and sending it.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, taking matters in your own hands.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah at that time when yeah, so that was yeah,
that was That was like my first job in LA
It's not on IMDb, but I had done when I
was you know, I'm from New Jersey, so uh, I
studied in New York and so I was in the
really young kind of when I was like thirteen years old,
(15:31):
and I ended up booking a job on World. According
to Garth in the movie.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
So that was like my first job and that was
just an interesting to be on the set with, you know,
with Robin Williams.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And do you say thirteen.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, wow, yeah I was. I was twelve or thirteen thirteen,
I think, yeah, yeah, I just played a young wrestler.
I told one joke, and the joke was, what's the
deafer of a brazier? It's an over the shoulder boulder holder.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Still, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
That that was one line.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Awesome line, over the shoulder boulder holder. I love that.
I've said that a million times.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah, that was that was the joke.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So you've stayed really busy through the years. What are
you working on now? Where are you living, what are
you working on? Tell us give us an update.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
What's going on? Yeah, I mean this is still like
my first passion, I will, you know, honestly, I hope
that I get another opportunity on a show like, you know,
like to One now because that show was just so
amazing and it was such a fun job. But right now,
(16:46):
I've been honestly, since the Pandemic, you know, I'd worked
with Justine Bateman on a movie that she directed called
Violet with Olivia Mon and that was really fun to do.
Awesome and yeah, and then but during the pandemic, my
parents needed help, so I kind of been going back
(17:09):
and forth. They live in Las Vegas now, so that's
where I am right now. I'm kind of helping out
my dad as my dad has gotten sick and he
has some health issues, and so I'm kind of juggling now.
I'm thankful though that, you know, I've had to be
able to spend time, you know, with them more than
(17:30):
I would have. Yeah, because of the pandemic. It's just
kind of and it wasn't COVID that they got sick with,
so it was kind of just weird timing. But I'm able.
I'm happy that I'm able to help out and just
kind of step in be able to Since they're in Vegas,
I can go back and forth between Los Angeles and Vegas.
And also with the remote auditioning where you can do
(17:51):
self tapes.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Online now and do things like this like talk to me. Yeah,
this is so awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Really helpful is well, and and yeah, so you know,
I've been doing a lot of writing. I've written a
couple of scripts that I'm kind of in the process
of trying to to get made and you know, which
is not an easy task.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, it sounds like your priorities have just sort of
shifted as they as they do sometimes and and you'll
never know when another shift will come and you'll be
doing something completely different. But really, kudos to you for
stepping up for your parents. And I mean, you know
(18:34):
what it's like to be a caregiver. It's a lot,
and so.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
It's been challenging. But yeah, but I'm I'm I'm happy
that I've been able to to stay connected to this.
And yes, it sort of kind of took a back
seat during the pandemic as I guess we had a
big break as well.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Everyone.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, and then going into the writer strike and then
the actors strike, say, it seems like it's been like, wow, you.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Know, yours a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
That's what it feels like. Yeah, that's been a big break,
and so it actually has got given me a little
more time to focus on this, this kind of caregiving
and also writing.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So, like I said, that's good, like keep your creative
juices working and you never know, like something will happen
and things will.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Change that juices.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'm sorry, but it's just really nice to talk to
you and see your face, and.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You know, I know this is the first time we're
actually meeting because on the set, I really, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
We never met you.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I know, come on, we have to have met. I
met you, Gabrielle and Mark with Mark actually awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, you know, I see each other periodically and we
go have lunch.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
He's great.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And and so Actually, and it was Luke. You know
that I met him because you know, he was in
one of the episodes that I was in.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Right, Yeah, so I know I met you.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Maybe we met in the hall passing. I think, you know,
I remember I passed by Tiffany's room once. She's just
me a wave, welcome to the show. Wow.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Must have seen each other in the trailer and wardrobe.
I'm still focused on that.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, she'll DM you later when you actually met, and.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'll literally remember it at some point.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I remember, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is
like the thirty year anniversary of that season.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I guess is it thirty there's numbers.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Grow out, numbers don't numbers that is not that is.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
That It seems like more than that, honestly, But maybe
for this episode because this was in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Four, Right, so that's what I'm saying, we're.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
In twenty twenty four, makes sense?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, in season five because I was in season five,
so yep, midway now. It was kind of like I
got so comfortable on the show that I didn't feel
like a series regular. I was just like, well, I'm
not what's going?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Well, We're glad you feel comfortable.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I did. I felt comfortable.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, what would have happened if they
had kept you guys together? What would have happened?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Like Jesse would be out?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Who knows? They could have gone a million different ways
that I kept its secret for a very.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Long about that sometimes like what if?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
What if? Yeah? I know that's true. What if? But
how long have you guys been doing this podcast? Is it?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Five seasons?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Five?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Five seasons, five and a half seasons? Now? It's really fun.
We're having a lot of fun and loving going back
and talking to some of the pivotal guests star is
like yourself, Yes, thank you, and just reconnecting and touch
base about where they are and what the experience was
like for them. So thank you for sharing your story
with us and spending some time with us.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, no, it was. It was really wonderful. So thank
you for inviting me and having me and getting to
go down memory lane a little bit. And uh it
was a pleasure to actually for me to go back
and watch myself and I was like, is that me? Holy?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah right, yeah, give yourself a little pat on the back.
You're awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Definitely met you.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Thank you, thank you. She's still on it, she's.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Just talking about it.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's been a while and uh,
we didn't have any scenes together, so.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
No, I know, I have a photographic memory, so I
definitely am remembering you right now.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I'll figure it out. And that's right.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I'll slide into your dam to let you know we
are you on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, uh huh, I am that's right.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Tell everybody it's your handle. What's your handle there?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It sounds weird at James C. Victor one, At James C.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Victor one. We will look for you, yes, okay, Thank
you all the best. To your parents, thank you, We'll
see you out there.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
To your scripts coming to Fruition.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
The Mind, thank you so much. It was really great
to see you guys, and thanks
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You, James, thank you all right, thank you
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