Bring Your Daughter to Work Day (S2 E11, “Leading from the Heart”)

Jennie's daughter Luca is here! She's 24 and ready to judge her mom's performance in this episode!

Jennie reveals she was back at work when Luca was one month old and that Luca had her own trailer! Luca first watched 90210 when she was in middle school and she isn't holding back today.

 

Plus, Christine Elise (Emily Valentine) join Jennie and Tori to talk about this episode.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey, hey, everybody,
welcome to another exciting episode of nine two one. OMG,
I'm here. My name is Jenny. I'm here with Tori
and Sissony. Hey, hi, and you guys. There's a special

(00:25):
guest in the studio with me. My mother has separation anxiety,
so that is when I'm here. My daughter is here
with me. I have come to work with Mommy day.
One of your greatest accomplishments. Yes, this is my oldest
and greatest accomplishment. She's twenty almost No, you did. She

(00:46):
turned twenty four Mr birthday. Just so you know, you
guys the only one of her brood that was actually
alive during the filming of nine. That's right. I had
my own little trailer, you did. But before you had
your own trailer on the set, you were Bob in
the belly. We called you Bob. Yeah, well, Jason kind

(01:10):
of coined that. He named you Bob. I think he
was directing an episode and um he was trying to
figure out how the hell to hide Bob my stomach.
So we would always just be like, what are we
gonna do the Bob? Should I have gone by Bob
him and Bob growled all the time during scenes and
Bob kicked. Yeah, she was there. You were wonder what season?

(01:35):
So you were in like the seventh season ish, So
I can't wait to watch that season. See like, how
do you hit your bump? What would you wear? Like
purses or just big bags? Yeah, big mo moves. Hiding
behind I was like holding random objects. Yeah, he'd get

(01:55):
her in and get her on the couch as fast
as possible. But that it was worth it. It was
worth every moment of it. But yeah, I remember we
had that little trailer set up for you in the
back and you were just a little toddler running around
and we had like astro turf and a pick white
picket fence like area, and um, it got real hot

(02:16):
one day, so we had to put in sprinklers a
little misters. Again. She has separation anxiety and wanted to
take me. Yeah. No, I couldn't leave. I had to
go back. I don't know about you guys, but when
you have a kid and you're working, you have to
go back right away to work. I was back at
work one month and when you were one month old.

(02:37):
I think if that right, tour you've had that experience
going back to work with a baby on your boob basically,
oh yeah, oh yeah. But it's great when you have
a workplace where you can bring them with you and
it's welcoming, and we were so excited to have you there.
I'm set. Did anybody else her first baby? First? The

(02:59):
first Andrea? Andrea Gabbett had a baby, right, But I
don't know. It's different with Luca Bella, she was just
she was ours, thanks story. I can I call you that.
I can't call you that. I'm sad I'm not in
the same space as you because I haven't seen you

(03:20):
in person since you came to our house during quarantine.
I napped off snacks for my mom's birthday. It was
like that of quarantine. We were so scared to be
close to you because we hadn't seen humans in like
two months. And I checked Dorito's at her from six
ft apart, and then we quietly looked around and then

(03:41):
said can we hug? And we hug major no one
was watching. I know I miss you. I follow you
on Instagram every day. I feel like I'm creepy, but
I don't know. I'm such a fan of the podcast,
So I'm so happy to be here. She listens. She's
one of our listeners right here in the flesh, big fan,
I listen, I run. I live in Manhattan, so I

(04:01):
always put you in when I'm walking around. Yeah, it's
so lovely. It's like having my mom's plural in my ears.
Oh my gosh, that is so beautiful. You do? You
get her right there every week since you are a listener, Um,
how many stars do you give us? And and what

(04:22):
what's your opinion? Like? What can we do better? Well?
When I first started listening, I called my mom and
I said, Mom, I know you have a bad memory
because I live with you and you never remember anything.
But you've got to try hard to remember some juicy
gossip because that's all the all we want out here
is some good gossip. So I said that earlier, but
she's been getting better. I just want some juice. I'm like,

(04:45):
I want some I'm like, I don't know what. I
want her to spill the JA moments from the both
of you. I'm like playing cheet Sometimes. You did a
good jobs with me of getting it out of them. Yeah,
but yeah, it's fun because I, of course was so
little when they were, UM being all hot and famous

(05:07):
and going around, and you know, now I get to, UM,
I feel like live. I know, I never asked my
mom questions. I get to kind of live vicariously through
the question af through UM you asking them questions? Has
any Luca you said, We're sorry, sorry, sorry, we're no
longer hot and we're no longer famous. You picked that up.
I didn't even pick that up. Ye, sorry, heard nothing

(05:29):
else except for them. It's still hot story. I don't
care about the famous part. I'm like, I'm not hot
anymore than damn it. Have you watched all the episodes?
I was trying to remember. I watched them in middle school,
and I haven't watched them in a while. So it's
fun to watch UM this episode that you guys are
gonna talk about. Mm hmm yeah. M She's she's nervous

(05:55):
to be here. I think she's like, I don't want
to be on the air. Is it called on the air?
Do you say that? Are we on the air? We
say it? I feel like I'm on the air. We
still are, like we have listeners, viewers, what do we have?
What's happening? I'll just sit in and maybe if we
can get some more and juicy stuff out of them.
Listening together, I can help you pull the teeth. Oh

(06:16):
my gosh, I'm nervous. I'm nervous. I'm gonna say something
inappropriate in front of my child. What's new? Sorry, I'm
worried I'm gonna say something inappropriate in front of your child. Well,
so happy happy week, everybody. We're onto another episode. This
this episode eleven of season two, Leading from the Heart.

(06:38):
It aired on October. In case you were wondering, synopsis
of mutual attraction between Kelly and the Walsh's visiting cousin
Bobby is complicated more by others assumptions than by Bobby's wheelchair. Meanwhile,
Brenda hesitantly takes another driving test. Directed by Daniel Addius
and written by Darren Starr. We had we had a

(07:02):
couple of really great co stars in this episode. We
did our favor. Christina a Lee is back. She is
back up, Emily Valentine's back, and you know what, we
have her with us? Uh today, I think coming up.
She's with us. Oh great, Okay, she's going to answer
all those questions we have for her. What were those questions? Store?

(07:23):
Oh my god? We had so many questions for her. No,
I'm not gonna remember any of them. I remember all
of them. I mean, oh, she's in the waiting room.
Do you guys want right now? Hi? Hi, beautiful? How
are you? I love that hat? Thank you it's my
security hat. I'm well, thank you. How are you, guys?

(07:45):
We're good. Thank you. I know you're hard working, so
thank you for taking a moment to do this. Yeah,
you're you're on set. You're on location, aren't you. Where
are you? Tell us where you are what you're doing.
I'm in Toronto shooting the Chuck Ete series. WHOA, I'm
so excited obsessively am like, not that I don't already

(08:06):
stock your Instagram, but obsessively looking at all the pictures
you're posting and super excited. Oh my gosh, she was
Jennifer Tilly and Laurie Petty and oh my god, well
Laura Petty is not on the show, Laurie. Umh No,
she she was here doing an HBO Max show UM
called Station eleven. UM. But I met Lori in I

(08:29):
think one of my first jobs of pilot, and she
and I were both in it UM and so I've
known her forever but I haven't seen her really. I
haven't gotten to do quality time with her really since then. Um,
but I got to go with her a lot. In fact,
I'm in her room right now. She she was here
since February. This is her room since February, and she

(08:49):
left on Monday. As you can see there, fresh flowers everywhere,
looks really beautiful. I'm a huge fan of hers. She's fantastic,
and so I just I used served her whole environment.
She left a ton of stuff for me. Flower always
home me, stuff like the horrible corporate couch stuffs covered
with fabric you see over there. And she's fresh flowers

(09:12):
and every surface and anyway, so I'm sort of I'm
a foe Lori petty right now. Wait, can I ask
you a question about your hair? Yeah? Is your hair
really longer? Do you put extensions in? No? My hair
is not long, y, My hair is like this, that's long.
This is this is long hair for you? Well it's not, well,

(09:34):
it's long like this is let your hair down, girl,
that's a year of COVID's senior hair and so long. Yes,
you almost have a bob. You almost have like an
actual bob. I could and I mean actually structure and
I get home again. But because um my look, my

(09:56):
hair like look was dictated by s post um credits scene,
I did and culled a Chucky. Um. I had long
blonde hair then, so I had to match that color
and length. That's why you see me as you do now.
So yeah, that longer hair is a piece. This is
so fun for so many people that there's going to

(10:18):
be a Chucky's TV series because so many people loved
that movie. There's seven movies. Oh sorry those movies. The
show is going to be insane. I saw UM on
last Saturday. I saw last Friday. I saw the trailer,
the official trailer, and I saw most of the first
episode and half of the second episode, and it's it's

(10:39):
so much cooler than I even hoped, because there's a
there's a you know, a suspicion, maybe that of brand
or a franchise has been around as long as this
fun has and maybe there you know, explored every avenue
or every idea that could be you know, how much more,
how much more story can be told, and the interest

(11:00):
a lot because it's gonna be funny and dark and
modern and unexpectedly. I think um news stories to be
told for new characters. Old characters have more story to
be told too, So it's really kind of a great
mashup of awesomeness. Good for you. That's so exciting. When

(11:20):
is it start airing? I don't know the exact date.
I am imagining because of the nature of the show,
that will be sometime in October because of Halloween. Um.
But Mike with men or to Io, Uh, we did
it two years ago. I've known Don Mancini he was
the creator of Chucky uh for thirties something years and
Alex Vincent to his a little Boy in the first

(11:41):
two Uh. He was seven when I met him. He's
here playing the same character at forty um. And so
it's like another homecome. I don't I've known Jennifer Tilly
since the eighties two. Both of us we're doing plays
at the l A Theater Center down town l A.
Different plays in the same theater at the same time,
when we shared a dressing room. So I knew Jennifer
before either one of us was in the up the universe. So, um,

(12:02):
it's like it was like for us, you know, two
years ago, was coming home to people that have known
for a really long time. It was really safe environment
and really nostalgic for me, so exciting. We wanted to
have you back on the show because we had we
had you on a while back, but your character Emil

(12:22):
Emily Valentine hadn't debuted yet. So now she is out
in the open for everyone to adore, and you are
so cute on the show. I've forgotten how much I
loved your hair and your outfits, but most of all,
thank you. She wasn't much loved though she's she's she's
I think as much I'm aligned as she has loved.
But right, so, when you started the show, did you

(12:44):
know that you were coming on to sort of play
a stir? Did you know that your character was going
to be used as as you know that kind of provocateur.
I did not, because, as you remember, how have you
watched them in real time? You're watching them like in sequence,
where you know what do you want? Right now? We're
not in too deep on Emily Valentine. I think you've

(13:06):
only been on two episodes so far. Okay, so I
read the first one. I did the audition for the
first one. I got it, and they were like, okay, great,
if it goes well, you could get up to ten more,
but shoot the first one and we'll see how it goes.
And so and the first one I really liked because
the sort of the moral of the story of the
first episode when she shows up is don't judge a
book by its cover. Everyone thinks she's a slut and

(13:26):
she dresses a different so she's a bad girl, and
ultimately she's not not she's a virgin, and she's kind
of a good kid. And I liked that because I
was that girl in high school too. I was super
punk rock in high school, and everybody thought that I
was um either stupid or doing drugs or slutty or something,
none of which were true. Um, And so I like that.

(13:47):
I like that don't judge a book by its cover thing.
So I was super upset when they ultimately went with
you can judge a book by its cover, you know. Um,
And I even tour I even called your dad. Is
kind of a story Jason telling me that I wasn't
plenty about the whole my desperate Valentine stuff, but you
haven't gotten to yet. But I Jason did me a

(14:08):
disservice and put me on the rare cell phone that
existed at that point in time, and you have me
call your dad to complain about the storyline, which isn't
what wait wait wait wait wait? So I didn't go
will what happened? Why did he Why did he tell
you to do that? Why didn't he call exactly exactly? Then?
I don't know, And it wasn't I guess it wasn't
his character that was that was the problem. So he's like, oh,

(14:32):
let's call right here. Here's the dicting things the phone
of mine face and I'm like, can I splay Darren Spelling? Please?
Like who's spelling? I'm Christina Alice. And your dad took
the call. He took the call, which is outrageous for
a guest star on a show to call somebody the
statue of Aaron Spelling to complain about the writing. Oh,

(14:53):
you know, rageous. And he was so super generous to me,
and he said, don't where you were going to redeem her?
And I said okay, okay. He's like yeah, and then
we're gonna give you a spinoff. And I was like, um, what, Yeah,
I'm not gonna spinoff. And I said, I don't know
what's happening right now. And he said have I ever

(15:15):
lied to you? And I said, I've never spoken to
you before, You've never had the opportunity to lie to
before because I'm just an asshole all the time apparently,
and he was like, uh no really. I was like, okay, bye,
and then he did. Emily Valentine was the original spinoff
character for Melro's Place, and Emily Valentine was the original

(15:41):
spinoff character Melrose Place. I took meetings with Darren up
with Darren uh Star and Duke Vincent and your dad
and they were a lot and you know, obviously all
the other powers that were um, and they were like,
here's the deal. You know, Emily's gonna move into this building,
and here's the other cares and what do you think.

(16:02):
I was like, that sounds great to me, um, And
then they offered me money that wasn't super fun. The
money was really bad, actually really really really like crazy bad.
And for me, I was like, Wow, everyone thinks I
got the job on that or two who because of
Jason which I met Jason Hunt or two and he
had nothing to do with me getting that job. Um.

(16:23):
But I had this vision of like if I did
Marrow's Place, that I was sort of selling my soul
to forever being considered, um, the spawn of Jason really,
you know. And I could envision that every like Emmy
Show or whatever, like Christine from Marrow's Place and Jason
Rono too will present the best actor thing and that

(16:43):
I would be forever tied to him in a way
that would ilegitimize me and I as an actress, that
was a self supporting, you know, individual and um, and
I felt like I should be paid a lot of
money to make that compromise in my life. And I know,
and then they created the Jake character and Grand Show

(17:04):
did it. So I wonder if, like Emily Valentine was
inspiration for like the Joe character. She was kind of alternative. No,
I think all those characters existed, uh with me that
that that universe already was. And I kind of, in
all fairness too, I'll tell you the truth, I felt
sort of like I was in a power seat because
it was really late in the season, and I think

(17:24):
I'm the only spin off character they have. Is nobody
else they can spin off. I have a I have
a like a power place. I can like stand here
and demand more money. How can they create a new
character like in two episodes and spend that person off,
which they did. You know that. You know Jake was
on the show for like what two episodes and they
spun them off, which is insane hot Damn, I have chills.

(17:45):
Emily Valentine on Melrose Place would have been iconic. Not
to rub it in, like you, you should have been
paid well. But I'm just saying, like that would have
been so good. It's not rubbing it in. It's not.
It's not a thing I regret. I told you why
I had took a position I did, and um, I
don't regret that at all. I was working and your

(18:06):
dad kept hiring me. Your dad, your dad is like
um Carol O'Connor for me, uh, in the in the
in my early acting world, they were both like like
godparents to me. They're both super They both tolerated my
being sort of inappropriate, like calling and complaining about writing.
They both tolerated my foul mouth. I would swear in

(18:27):
front of them both. I call your dad Aaron. I
called Carol Carol, which everybody else called your dad Mr.
Right and um, and they called Carol Mr O'Connor, and
I'm like Carol Aaron and both of them understood that
it wasn't disrespect and they both seemed to. They were
both really generous to me and really kind to me,
and I have nothing but very very warm thoughts about

(18:49):
both of them because of it. My dad loved you.
But I just can't get past Melrose Place would have
been so good. I was like outside of being like
like in the whole world of it, like, I was
also a really big fandom placed out and I wasn't
really like that's not my kind of TV. So, you know,
you know, I'm happy to get work when I can

(19:09):
get work. But I always say about one of the
greatest misconceptions about actors is that their resume necessarily reflects
their taste in in cinema or in television, which it doesn't.
It reflects the jobs you were offered, you know, it doesn't.
I'm not like Kate Blanchet, but I can't. I can't
pick my projects based on my taste in things, and
most actors can't. So there's a lots of my resume

(19:30):
that I really really love, and there's a lot of
stuff in my resume that I wouldn't have watched. I
wasn't in it, And a lot of my resume that
I still haven't seen a lot of stuff I've done,
and I haven't even Why do people think that you
got the job because of Jason? Like I, if I
were just a fan, I would have assumed, oh my god,
they met on set and fell in love. Well, you know,
the Internet, I think has revealed to all of us

(19:52):
that people are really, really, really mean and not necessarily
particularly imaginative or clever. So yeah, it's just easy to
It's also I just watched this documentary Cult that changes
everything about women and in Hollywood and women directors and
how much the percentage of the pie, whether it's directing
Pie or producing Pie or acting Pie, how even in cartoons,

(20:12):
even in Disney movies, animation, how how little female representation
there is and how much more male so there is.
So I mean, it's a male dominated world and it's
certainly a male dominated industry, and so women are sort
of written off, as you know, And so I think
it's easy to right a girl like me, a little

(20:32):
unknown girl that's like it looks like a little you know,
scamp um. How could I have any kind of power?
It must have come from Jason h which is just
a sexist thing. It's a sexist reality that we live in. Right. Wait,
did you guys, like we were talking about this when
we watched your first episode, and we like we knew

(20:53):
you guys as a couple when you guys met and
fell in love in person. You guys were always so
great together. But Jen and I were saying when as
we were watching that first episode, sorry, my glasses are broken, um,
that we couldn't see the chemistry, the chemistry as far
as I mean, as far as the two of us
as human beings, the characters I think characters like sometimes
you can watch and be like, oh, I know that

(21:14):
these two were together off camera, like you could see it,
even like if they're not playing romantic with somebody else
at the time when you first started, Yeah, I was
living with somebody else for who's again still my friend
much as Jason is. Um, Yeah, I was living with
somebody else named Jamie who has a great creep truck
in l a blackflower. He and his wife to a

(21:37):
creep and then she's Parisian and he lived in Paris
forever when they got three French kids. They're in Paris
right now, but they had the food trucks in l a, Um, yeah,
I was living with somebody else, so you wouldn't have
gotten any behind the scenes chemistry with him because there
wasn't any yet. It was Jason still with Robin. Know
when you guys met, Now when did it kind of

(21:58):
cross over to off camera way later, way later, like
after euphor yeah, yes, this part we didn't know that
we couldn't remember. So yeah, Jamie and I broke up
during the course of the show early episodes, and then yeah,
and then inappropriately quickly I became a couple with Jason.

(22:20):
It happened very fast and uh, very fast, like two
weeks later. I was like, oh break up. Oh no,
new boyfriend, Like bam, it's very fast. But yeah, did
you have reservations about dating your co star? No, because
I wasn't gonna be on the show for very long.
It's like, I'm yes, sir, I you know, I might
not have done this thing if if we were cast

(22:40):
as series regulars and I thought we'd have ten years
of working together and I gotter done it then, but
I wasn't. That wasn't part of but my feature was
going to be you know, and also you know, um,
he what are you gonna do? You, you fall in lovely,
you fall in love with so when I was twenty

(23:03):
years old, So like you know, I'm not gonna question it.
I'm just gonna do it. Yeah, true, Oh glad I did.
It was great, It was awesome, and when my god
from that is that Jason is still a great friend,
his wife one of my best friends. They are they're
my family. They recently moved, which is a huge dagger
in my heart. Um, it's gonna leave a big I left.

(23:27):
They left l A once. I once I was already
here in Toronto, so I haven't had to live in
l A the absence of those people. Um, but that's
gonna suck for me because they're they're they're my family.
They're my holidays, they're my Christmas, my Thanksgiving and my
that's they're my family. So it's tough. That's a tough loss.
You're just you can kind of yeah, you can come
to our Thanksgiving dinner. Thank here. We'll hold off you

(23:50):
into our families. Thank here. Have you always had short hair,
because I've seen pictures of you when you were younger,
and you had beautiful short hair then too. No, I
had long, dark hair. I had this petty page thing
for like a decade, and apparently I was totally invisible
with it because nobody remembers it. But it was like

(24:11):
tan you and not that like from two thousand three
or two thousand thirteen or something. I had this, you know,
auburn hair along with the banks um and everyone's like,
I like, you bet it was sharp blonde here. But
you guys, know, whatever you do with your hair, some
girl has to tell you, like the other one was better.
Whenever you have wrong, always building up, building up your confidence.

(24:33):
People so true, you're unsolicited opinion. You're so great about that.
Like you're so strong. You're such a strong lady. And
I love it when you clap back at the haters
on Instagram and just anywhere in general. I mean, because
you don't let people take advantage of you. You stand
up for what you think is right, and I've always

(24:54):
respected that about you. Thank you. That's kind. Thank you.
I have nothing to lose, you know, I had like
eighty thou followers or something that I don't have some
like social media empire to protect them just like me
posted like is my dog's birthday picture? You know, so
uh people that you you you know, you just scounded

(25:15):
yourself and unfollowed. It's like you are who if I was?
You know, I was Lena go even then though we've
got like some five hundred billion followed person following, why
are you handering too people who are mean? So? I
I just don't think cruelty should be rewarded with anything
but being ignored. Do you do you guys do this

(25:40):
when someone says like something mean and says I'm gonna
un follow you, I just blocked them. I sometimes right
by Felicia or I say or I'm O, my god,
please don't leave. I was just bragging to my friends
that you're my follower. I think, Arl, is this you
mom that you know? Uh? But yeah, So if we

(26:01):
could just get back to nine two and O for
a second before we leave you, we just wanted to
kind of talk to you about, like what was your
we had you on before. I'm not even sure if
we ask you this question before, but for those people
that didn't listen to it, UM, what was your like
first UM day on the set? Like what was your
first experience with because you came in and you were
an outsider, did you feel like an outsider? Did you

(26:22):
feel included? How did it go down. Um at the time,
certainly then and very much. I was a professional guest star.
So that's your job is to be the new kid
of school. Like every set you go on is scary,
and everyone knows each other and you don't know anyone
or where the craft service table is or who the
crazy person is or you know, you're just like a

(26:43):
new kid to school always, so that you learned to
you know, just navigate as best you can and like
keep your self esteem as much intact as you can
and these totally foreign environments and just try to do
your job right. Show up and stand on your markets,
say your words and hopefully say them convincingly. Um. And

(27:03):
that was sort of how I entered that show, even
though that was the most high profile show I've ever done. Like,
you guys were a phenomenon at that point, like maul
Riots had already happened for Luke and Jason, and so
it was a different um level of thing to walk into.
So it was super intumidating. And I think I told
you guys before that. Uh. Paul Paul Wagner, the showrunner,

(27:26):
m hm uh sat me down and said, hey, welcome
to the show. Um. The guys are gonna be great.
I can't make any promises about the girls have fun.
Jeem so helpful. That's also scary, right like so um,
but that's worse. That makes it worse almost. Yeah, Well,

(27:48):
most of my work was with Luke and Jason in
the first episodes that and and so, I don't know
which day was the first day. Partner wants to say,
it's actually my introduction scene on the Motorcycle War. I
talked to Luke. That may or may not be true.
I don't remember. My my fake memory tells me that
was the first day. Um, Luke, what if you read

(28:09):
interviews that I gave that year. I was saying then,
and I will repeat now that he was the kindest
person I've ever met on a first day on the set. Ever.
He was really really generous to me. He sat with
me at lunch like you, made sure I knew where
the food was, and he sat with me while I
ate it. He was just an incredible gentleman. And people
who aren't actors can't understand how huge that is for

(28:31):
somebody a regular on the show to take a single episode.
At that point, guests are under their wing and be
that kind and generous. It's unheard of, let alone somebody
who was at the like Elvis Pressley, famous, like Luke
was at that point in time for him to take
time out of his day to be nice to this

(28:52):
little girl is gonna go away in five days and
it's if I got to see her again, is spectacular.
And that's what he did. Yeah, we hear that all
the time from across the board, from all the guest
stars that we've talked to, that he was so kind,
and I mean Tory and I can definitely relate and
know how kind he was to everybody just all the time.

(29:13):
So I'm glad he was. I hope we were kind
to you, you guys. You know what. Here's the deal.
So the first episode, and I say this too, I
sort of I used to have a less less nuanced
response to like where they were. I was chanting already
a bit like which everybody has to ask that question
like an interesting question, which it is not um And

(29:33):
my answer has evolved to this is the real truth
of it. No, nobody was a bit You guys weren't bitches.
You guys were famous and distracted and and and had
lives and like that. You were I was invisible to you,
and that's totally fair. I've been on a show where
somebody coming in ford three lines or whatever. I didn't
bout of my way to be particularly gracious to that person,

(29:55):
you know, like it's just work. You don't go you
don't get a job to go and make a ten
a new best friends. You go there, like I said,
stand on the mark and say some words and then
go home. And so nobody was overtly mean to me.
Everybody was indifferent to me. But when you're when you're
feeling as insecure as you do with this new kid
in school thing, which I was literally and figuratively on

(30:15):
that show, um in difference feels like hostility, you know,
because you're so insecure and everyone everyone in the center
of their own universe. You're like, oh my god, there's
Tory spelling and she walks by and I go, oh,
she didn't even say hi. She must hate me. It's
like you are, she doesn't know who you are, so
and we just face us. You were I was scared
of you the first episode. You more and but anyway,

(30:38):
I was scared of you. She was. She was scared.
I was scared of my own shadow back then I
just was like kind of like trying the same reaction
you're saying that you had was how I felt at
first as well, like you know, and I was both
you know, I was a regular like it was. It
was hard, and you've fit in as best you can,

(30:59):
and I saw you as a strong I you know,
I have gotten better in life, but I've definitely not
been an alpha female. So anytime I am around an
alpha female, I suddenly feel stupid, I feel insignificant, I
feel and so my version of acting out is kind
of just being quiet and just like going about my
business and smiling. And so we've talked since, and obviously

(31:21):
we're good friends now, and it's like I wish I
had had the voice back then to even like get
to know you, because I would have loved you then. Yeah,
you would have, because I was awesome. I know, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding, but imagine being me. So now you may
identify or character might just describe me as an alpha
I don't. I wouldn't call myself alpha. I don't know

(31:41):
what I would call. I don't consider myself help. I pretend,
but I'm not. I'm still a house of cars inside,
like everybody else, right, So, um, I guess I say
strong females are like alpha's I guess not an alpha.
Alpha's the wrong word. What's the word I'm looking for?
Like strong? Independent? Hm? I out spoken? But imagine being

(32:02):
like the new kids school and having to do that.
I don't sing, and it maybe record that horrible still
songs and you know, none of us sang in that
breaking wait. Okay, so that wasn't you singing because we
were so curious because unsounded like you. I sang the
Jannie Joplin song, which isn't doesn't exist anymore, but that
breaking up. I had to sing Mercedes Bends in the

(32:24):
pod in front of you, two of you and Shannon,
and I had to sit there and pretend to play guitar,
which I don't do. So they had a frame like
above the guitar because I don't play guitar. I don't sing,
and I just say that that is my voice. Actually
that's a cappella me which I recorded in the studio
and they played it over loudspeakers of the whole crew
and all the extra and I had to lip sync

(32:48):
to myself to you guys. You know. Three for the
three was the famous girls in the world, and I'm like,
oh lord, what would you You don't remember? I was
literally crying in between they go cut or say oh man,

(33:15):
I'm so glad that's cut. I'm so glad they couldn't
get the rights to that or afford the rights, and
it's not in the DVD. It sounded good, But so
why didn't they use your voice for the main song?
That is the song that actually sounded like you. It's
not me. It's not you either. By the way, the
same girls, um you guys are not tree you in
the background, it's her doing that triple fold. It's her.

(33:39):
And if you listen really carefully to the the breaking
up song, occasionally they loop in my voice to it
anywhere that sounds a little bit sour or off key.
That's so they did record you in the studio. I knew.
I could tell that there were some of you in there,
like seasoned in there is it is, it's all the

(34:01):
It's like, it's like a bad piece of garlic in
a beautiful That's not true. Come on, we love garlic.
You love garlic. I like garlic too, but nobody wants
burned garlic. And that's what I was in that song.
We had so many questions for you when your character
first appeared, Like all we did was say, oh my gosh,
we have to ask Christine this. We have to ask

(34:22):
Christine this, and and now we don't remember that was
one of them. But and we also wanted we also
wanted to ask her about kissing Luke and kissing Jason
in the same episode in the same spot, the same
out overlook, right, the makeout spot that you guys they
took you to the assembly line makeout so that that
was probably filmed both in the same night. Yeah, So

(34:45):
it was like Luke was in the chair and then
they took him out and put Jason in the chair,
you lucky bitch, which made me, Uh, that's why every
little girl in America hated my guts for to this day.
You that that talk about an embarrassment of riches, right, like,
oh my god, yeah, I'm the guests are no one's

(35:07):
heard of, and I'm making out Dylan and Brandon. It's crazy.
It was scary. And um, I'll tell you what, like,
I'm not I personally find actual kissing, like French kissing
on camera. I think that's vulgar. I never like to
see it unless it's like a really important to a
story that like we see the graphicness of somebody's of

(35:28):
the sexual nature of some interaction. You're talking about, like tongue, Yes,
I am. I don't want anybody's tongue in my mouth. Um,
And they were both gentlemen and did not. What's super
gross is it? Later on when Jason and I were
actually a couple, we really were kissing? Really, because why not?

(35:48):
He's I lived with him or was? You know, it's
my boyfriend. It's so gross, it's so vulgar. I look
and I can't. I just it's like, oh my god,
Oh my god, how can anybody watch that? It's so disgusting?
Why did you think that it was real? It was
like a real affection. It's vulgar. We weren't. We were

(36:09):
like naked. I love that you're calling something vulgar. I've
never heard you call anything vulgar really, trust Oh, you're
such a prude when it comes to, like, you know,
making out on TV? Were you supposed to kiss Steve
in the episode as well? What and what happened? I
thought that was too much. I thought that was contrary

(36:29):
to the story of the don't judge a book by
its covered. Thing, like, why is this virgin making everybody
on the one show? Yeah, And I went to Dan Addius,
who directed that episode, and said, Dan, I'm super bombed,
Like I feel like this is this is contrary to
the legend, move the ball we put on this. That's
like when in the last scene she's making out with Steve,

(36:49):
Dan Addius had already had that thought, had that change,
so I didn't have to call your dad and complain
about it. I'm sure Iron was bummed out. Maybe just
maybe you don't like blondes. Then because you kissed Jason,
you kissed Luke, maybe you had it. You were like, yeah, no,
I don't like blonde so I'm not gonna kiss Steve.
And then I was apposed to make out with Shannon.

(37:11):
Come on, no good that hot Christy and we love
talking to talk to you forever, but we were told
you only have fifteen minutes, so I think we've gone
past it. Oh my goodness. No, I know, not breaking
of all your nights. So I'm here in Toronto though,

(37:33):
So if you think of the questions you want to ask,
feel free to let me back. You know, you know,
I'll answer them and all answer. We love it. You
always answer our texts and you're so great to us.
So thank you, thank you, we love you, We love you, Lady,
have fun. Thanks for having me. Good luck. Watch Chucky
when it comes out. It's gonna be great. Everybody's gonna

(37:55):
watch Chucky. Everyone's so excited. Internet's blown up about it.
Everyone's so excited. Is checking in a air? Is it
going to be streaming network? Sci Fi and USA sci
Fi Network and USA so too works? Uh simultaneously. I
think they're airing like first episode that I think the
same night on each which is unusual. Its two networks.

(38:15):
But it is so cool. That is super cool. Ve
an eye out for it, everybody. Christine, we love you,
love you, have a great night. Bye. Can we just
like have her on every episode and just ask her memories?
He's got good memories, right, God, she's got good stories.

(38:36):
It's interesting what she said about the vulgarness with using tongue,
because as a viewer, when you see that, it almost
it makes it seem so real. I don't you know
what I'm going to decide with Christine. I don't need
to see that. Nobody needs and not even my tongue.
I don't want to see my tongue, but I don't
want to see other people's tongues going in other people's mouth.

(38:58):
It's like a little too intimate. I felt like that
was all you saw now to be with me, and
I really appreciate that. Yeah, we were watching till I
was like, Mom, and then you're making out the cousin.
What's happening? Just like Kelly was in making out because
I'm like, Mom, what are you doing? That's me? I
think like when I watch TV or movies if it's

(39:22):
a super hot couple, like I don't know, probably like
when I saw like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, Like
I wasn't mad if I saw Ton like you know,
like I don't know, but you're right. Also, have you
seen teen shows now? It's like I'm thinking, I know
too when I was very gentle with its bull guaranty
back in the day. Why do you think they're worse now? Yes,

(39:45):
I'm so sad for my sisters. My sisters are thirteen
and eighteen or are they not anymore? Whoa fourteen? Like?
Are you talking about topics or do you just like
teen show? It just the content that the storylines that
what they do. That's why we've talked about this on

(40:05):
the podcast before. Young adult television is really pushing the
envelope about their people. Lots of tongue. Wow, don't watch
other shows on Netflix? Or is Christine calls it French
kissing old fashioned? I know it was adorable. I like

(40:26):
when she gets prude and talks like that and the
whole new side of her we didn't see. Yeah, I
love it. When did you guys know that they were
dating or was that like something that was known by
everyone or it was more like a secret. Why didn't
you ask that question when you ask her? Why are
you going to do it? You're a co host today?
It was a great question. That's a good question. It

(40:48):
was like a big reviewer. It was like you saw
them holding it. It It was kind of just like a
slow roll into it, like we all like eased into it.
I feel like we saw it coming. But it wasn't
shocking and they seemed great together. I can't remember. I
just remember they were just together. Just it just was
I wonder, yeah, I wonder if we were like secretly,

(41:12):
like you know, girls do gossiping, Like, oh, do you
think they're together. Do you think he likes or does
she like him? Do we need to take a break?
We doutes. Sorry, guys, we'll be right back. Okay, you guys,

(41:41):
that was amazing, but we now need to definitely dive
into leading from the Heart episode eleven. Um, what do
you guys think of it? I didn't love this episode,
but I liked it. I thought Gordon Curry was um
adorable who played Bobby Um And I loved your like

(42:03):
I loved your storyline with him. Yeah, it was at
la Field for sure. Yeah it was. It was good.
It was a showed a vulnerable side to Kelly, and
I like that seeing that and seeing her with him.
And I love seeing you on a horse. You know
you love me, I do. I do give me all
the feelings we did that. It was fun. It was

(42:25):
a good moment and a good lesson. I feel for
kids who are watching too not necessarily rule somebody out
because they're in a wheelchair or they can't do something
that you can do. It's so hard to navigate that
conversation though, and I think that the show kind of
opened that up a little bit. Hopefully people did take

(42:48):
away that from it. But yeah, it's so hard to
sort of you don't know what to say and how
what should you say? What should you not say? And
I think Kelly was really not she had never had
an encounter like that, but or so, But yeah, it
was sweet and it was I kind of felt like
it was a glimpse into future nine o two on
oh Land, where there's a new guy every episode kind

(43:10):
of a thing, you know, like a new boy comes
into town and one of us was dating him. Did
he did he ever come back? No? Never? What cousin
Bobby left and never called. I gave him my number
and everything. Did you know? It was really cute and

(43:30):
we're alive. I remember him being a really good friend
of Jason's. Had they already knew each other. Did Jason
maybe recommend him for the job or something? Maybe I
don't know they were really I feel like I don't
want to speak out of school, but I feel like
Jason was like, I have a great buddy Canadian actor

(43:51):
for this job, and he recommended him. You know, he
didn't get him the job, but recommended they look at
his his reel and see and cast him. That was
I remember. I don't know, but I thought I remember
Jason saying always gonna be coming back, He's going to
be recurring, but that never hap. I thought that I
was curious as to why Jim and Cindy but I

(44:11):
like to call him, Uh wait, James and Candy, I
don't know. Jim and Cindy was so kind of like
out of sorts about him coming. They thought he was
moving in with them, and I couldn't really read like
why they were so upset or concerned about Bobby visiting
and potentially moving to California because they would have to

(44:36):
figure out how he couldn't be able to navigate through
the house. I think right like, if he lived there,
he wouldn't be able to ever go upstairs and they
would have to figure out that out. They'd have to
addle on you. I just also too felt like because
when Cindy was having that heart to heart in bed,
which Luca pointed out, she was like, do you and
Dave sit in bed and talk about us like they

(44:57):
sit in bed and talk about their chips? Parroina was like,
what are you guys talking about TV? Parents in the nineties?
Did that it only happens on TV? That is so
that is such a valid point. Parents always talk in
bed on TV never in real life. I never knew
that till I was a parent. I always assumed that
was the case. So true. I think I talked about

(45:21):
you guys in bed sometimes sitting straight up. Yeah, it's
more like pillow talk kind of just like yeah, back
and forth. I felt like maybe it was she was
feeling super guilty about it, like because she kind of
admitted that she felt guilty about thinking that she was

(45:43):
glad that wasn't Brandon that had to have that accident,
and I could I could relate, as you know, that's
a very human reaction for her to have. So maybe
that was sort of flavoring the whole being worried about
him coming. Was this Jason's first crying scene? You know what?
I felt like it might have been because I was

(46:03):
trying to think, like I was like, whoa, he's pulling
out the acting troops. Let's go, and he and he
got me, he got I teared up, You guys, did
you you did? Totally? I wrote it down. Brandon moved
me to tear up when he talks about cousin Bobby
good acting. Or maybe it was the muscle relaxed, or
I had took earlier. Her eyes get dry all the time.

(46:23):
And you didn't know, you didn't And I'm a crier.
I didn't believe him. You you are. You are sucker
for those storylines too. I know, I know I didn't
believe it. I didn't believe him. I was like, I
thought it was not great. Maybe he'll get better in
another scene. Yeah, well you got me all right. And
I also noticed that whenever Kelly gets um emotional or

(46:50):
like starts talking about something serious, her nostrils flare. Did
you guys a little bit like the best crier on TV?
Like you look beautiful crying? Not many people look good
crying talking about the nostrils? Why did not someone not
tell me stop doing that? Because that's a reflex. It's

(47:11):
whenever you would get mad or emotional. Yeah, the nose flares.
When the nose flares, you know something's about to go down.
It was good, though, Like, do you do it now?
I'm doing it right now? You can't see, can you see?
I've never noticed in real life, only on screen, looked
at her nostrils flair when she's upset. Isn't the word

(47:31):
nostrils weird? Just yeah, just keep saying it nostrils, No,
Luca does she and the other thing? Okay, well, I
love the horseback riding thing. They look so it looks
like really a lot of fun to go riding a horse.
In the middle, I could tell Luke was very happy

(47:54):
on the on the back of a horse, very content,
and Jason was. He didn't He wasn't convincing as a
bad rider, because I was thinking he must be a
good horseback rider because he didn't he do a Western?
Was it was the Western? After this? Oh? You're right,
it was after this? Yeah, maybe he didn't know how

(48:17):
to ride yet. Maybe he did. He's a sports guy,
I'm sure. And ride through the Canadian mountains is that thing?
I really got mountains in Canada. I don't know if
he does everything else a sport he um? And what
about the party, did you guys enjoy? Well, first, let's

(48:38):
go back really cuteness overload. When David asked Donna out,
Oh my god, it was so cute. Oh my god.
I thought we were going to skip that part. I
don't know, I don't know. It was cute. Why why
would you want to skip it? That is the beginning,
that's the little seed in the in the soil of
the story. Really, she says no. She says they're just friends,

(49:02):
which friends, Yeah, but I can tell because then she
goes to Brenda and says, Brenda, can I bring David?
And she says no. It's like, but there's too many people,
you can't bring them. That's so sad. I mean, you
do feel that way in school, Like if you ever
liked somebody and they weren't cool or your friends weren't

(49:23):
into them, you were like, oh, I guess I can't
really like them, and you convince yourself you don't. But
that's such an honest respond response from someone like Brenda,
because you would do that, you'd be like, there's no,
there's not enough room. You can't it's too much. I
will uh sorry, I'm gonna say something that's gonna gross
my best friend out right now. But I'll never personally

(49:46):
forget this episode because there is a scene I was
supposed to be in, but I can't remember what it
was that I had to be written out of because
I got my first bladder infection a U T I
as a young girl, and we were on set and
it was so bad and I was crying so hard
that I had to leave to go to urgent care,

(50:08):
and they had to write me out of the scene.
Maybe it was the scene when they gang arrives to
the house in his outside when we're picking up the
wheelchair and taking up because you're not in that scene,
and then that's exactly where Brenda say, Donna, hurry up,
and then in the next shot you're walking through the
door with them, So they had to like add that
line because we were I just remember sitting outside. We

(50:29):
were on like we're sitting outside on a big blanket
and I literally was like, I can't film and I
was so embarrassed because I was like, oh my god,
this is the moment I always feared being the producer's daughter.
I never want to be late. I never want to
like not be able to work. And I was in
so much pain that I had to go. I had
to go. That explains it, which yehole aligned aligns with
my first time a little bit. M hmm. Interesting any him,

(50:54):
Let's move on, David and Donna. Did you guys see
the boom at all? Because I did boom care just
we needed like a tally on the on the on
our screens that wow, what was happening with the boom
guy robo was sleeping on the job. I don't know.
It's really hard to hold your arms up like this

(51:17):
holding a rod a boom. The microphone is on a
long stick thing and it's really long, and they can
they follow around the actors like, oh my didn't shape mander.
I'm still like, um, they follow I'm watching all the
actors around and it's heavy and you must go gil
tie sometimes and just kind of drops it down like that.

(51:39):
Does that job still exist or is it like all
mechanical now? I think that I think there's still boom guys,
boom operators. I mean more the mics are better now
so a lot of times, but I think sometimes they're
still right, well, that's a job. When we were on
like we took for granted because we never got it,
you know, and we'd just be messing up and like

(52:01):
standing there probably thinking like, please get the scene. My
arms are killing me. A man, if this were that
type of show, because remember we always would hear that
in college people would have like parties and watch and
I as don't know if they were the drinking age.
I always say that, by the way I am, and

(52:22):
they would be like, oh whenever you know, for instance,
I'm sure they were like if Kelly Flair's her nostrils,
take a shot, you know, Brenda is a bit to
take a shot. I used to hear when Donna would
wears the belly take the show. Yes, so every time
you see a boom, you have to take a shop.
Come in, let's do it. Okay. I have a question

(52:43):
for Tori. Question. You know how Christine said that she
would go and if she wasn't loving the storyline, make
some suggestions or call um your dad. Did you ever
make any requests or hey, maybe I should date Brian's character.

(53:04):
I was once like I was on the show. I didn't.
We never talked like again, like I would help him
before the show, like with casting suggestions, but like once
I was like in it. I was like, okay, we
have to like disconnect because I don't want people to
think I'm like getting better treatment because it's my dad.
So we never would talk about it. So no except

(53:27):
and I've told them this. At one point I went
to him and I was like, everyone's scared for Donna
lose her virginity, like it's enough now, like she needs
to lose it. And He's like all right, but um,
I've done that now. Did you ever make any ask
their requests for Kelly? I can only remember off the

(53:48):
top of my head requesting to not work with somebody,
but but never. I don't think they had so many
amazing twists and turns for storylines for Kelly that I
didn't have any reason to add more to that. Yeah,
there were so many twist of your character. Yeah, and
I think up until a certain point, we didn't I

(54:09):
feel entitled to be able to do that, right, like
any of us. Well, maybe we don't know. Maybe maybe
some people were. You were never like that. I was
never like that, but I was like, here's my lens,
do my job, go home. Yeah. And you guys never
directed an episode or did you once? Yeah? We both
did not together separately early on later later much later.

(54:35):
I don't even know season eight. So would that give
you full saying what would happen in that episode then?
Or was it already written? It was written? You could
like give feedback if you are suggestions, but yeah, it
was written already And I don't think we even got
to pick which one we directed. It was like, okay,
now here's a long episode. Yeah, we weren't like, Hey,

(54:58):
I wanna yeah, direct this storyline like that didn't happen. Wait,
can we talk about the guy at the party that
Kelly goes to dance with? Yeah, rude? Do you think
Kelly was rude to go dance with him? Well, she
asked him if it was okay, and he was like, sure,
go ahead. He didn't really mean it, but asking him
to hold her purse was a little over the top. Yeah,

(55:20):
that's not that doesn't look good. It was the guy
with long hair, right, the guy tall. It's his party.
And first of all, there was no alcohol there, which
I totally did not believe because what teenager throws a
party and there's an alcohol? Um, hopefully there are some
out there. I'd like to hold, hope, But um, he's

(55:40):
so tall and has long blond hair, And the minute
he came on the screen, I was like, oh, is
that my first husband? He looks exactly. I didn't want
to be rude. I thought it was Dan when I
first watched it back sort of and he kind of
acted like him to like all kind of that crazy swaggy. Yeah,
it was weird. J you say waggy. I was like,

(56:03):
what's waggy? Tell me but that was weird. If you
guys don't know what my first husband looked like. He
had long blond hair, and he looked just like that guy.
I just wanted to tell you all that who went
on this is his first job to be Well, he
didn't go on to be He is Gabriel Ma who
became very successful and was on suits and um is

(56:23):
married to just send a Barrett. I love her um anyway, Um,
but yeah, this was his first job and he looks
totally different now than he did then, totally nothing, very handsome,
short hair, short brown hair. But he was a really
good looking guy. He still is. Do you remember thinking
he was cute at the time, since he was clearly

(56:45):
your type? Um, I'm sure I did. He was tall
and good looking. I'm sure there was, but I mean
this was pretty in post. I don't know. Mm hmmm.
I'm lining it up with my scenario. You were with Dan,
but Gabriel Mott could have been your first husband. Yeah,

(57:07):
it could have been. We'll never know. The Luca might
not be sitting next to me, not that you're not
that your child something I want to tell you your
real dad Stella. The other day I was talking about
my ex husband, and she's like, I'm so glad that
it didn't work out because I wouldn't look the same.

(57:28):
I'm like, I wouldn't look the same. It wouldn't be you.
It doesn't look like She's like, no, I would still
be me, Mom. I just I think I would look different.
I'm like, I don't know that's how that works. But
though maybe she's onto something there. Maybe some people believe
that the little souls pick their parents and they come
into their lives for a reason. I believe that. Yeah,

(57:51):
you know what, I'm gonna go, I'm believing it more
shows you, I know. I like that. She definitely shows
you smart girl. Yeah. Um, we have a little bit
of fashion and some listener questions. If you guys want
to take a break and come back with those, yeah,

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we're back you guys. Um, okay, let's do this. Let's
talk nineties fashion dues and don't what do you guys
think from this episode? A lot of blazers, but I
was into it, like too much though it's it was
a little blazer heavy. Even they were just like they
they were gonna be with stuff ever borrowed and then
have to be returned. So then they made you guys

(58:38):
wear it more. I just I think you were talking
about that one scene where Donna's in a blazer, Brenda's
in a blazer and they're standing next to each other.
That that really bothered you. I don't love like I
love Brenda and a blazer. I love Kelly and a blazer.
I'm not a fan of Donna and a blazer. I
thought you looked great in a blazer. What are you

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talking about? Shoulder pain? You know, even even to this day,
I feel like I feel really uh what is the
word like? I just feel like I'm trying to look
smart or something really got a fine. Now I have
some weird thing about blazers that's too funny. Well, I

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always throw a blazer on you when you don't love
your outfit or like the shirts a little too tight here,
too short there something. They're like, oh it's fine, we'll
just pay a blazer over it. That that's the wardrobe
answer to every problem, and clearly it worked. It's true,
and no one wears jewel tones like Kelly Taylor A K.
Jenny Garth. Are you talking in the blue dress? The

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part of dress? I just love you and any kind
of jewel tones. You. It's so funny. You love the
color on me. I don't ever wear color, as you
can see, and wearing black. I'm always wearing black. And
you guys, she looks so good in color. And it's
always it's always a fight. It's always as you do fight. No,

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I love her in color. And when she puts it on,
you have to admit you feel good once it's on.
It's just not your instinct. No, I don't feel good
in color. Do you think it's because of Kelly? You
have PTSD from her wearing so much? Yeah, color overload? Maybe?
What about the up do? That was? That was a
That was a French twist if I've ever seen one,

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but a French twist was hot. It was something even
there was a great like shot where she tilts her
head down. You see the top of the French twist,
which you don't see very often. It looks like kind
of like a little sharp paced but hole like it's
like you never you know. That is a forgotten hairstyle.
I feel like it needs to be brought back. You

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should try it. Maybe you could when you give birth,
you could give yourself a French twist. You're making your
way to the hospital. It's interesting because shows in the
nineties a lot of times, I think we've talked about this,
like makeup and hair were old school and it was
wasn't cutting edge, like young people like trying new trends

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and stuff. Um, and most of the makeup department were
straight older men, which is sounds weird now, And I
feel like some of the dues were iconic, but like
at the time, didn't you feel like when they were like,
we're going to twist your hair up like a little
too a little too mature. Maybe yes, yeah, But then

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we got some we we got some young people in
the department that shook things up a lot. This is true,
but I thought in general that I wrote it down
that the lady's hair looked really good, your hair, Brenda's hair,
My hair looked like blown out, beautifully great blowouts they
gave us. Yeah, there was a scene where Donna's hair

(01:01:47):
was like blown out on the sides and like hair
sprayed and gelled perfectly. That was all me. I just
used to put my fingers here and spray it, put here,
spray it and here. Really oh yeah, we have a
different perspective, different generation. You are she's wearing all the
nineties things now and that's like what the kids these

(01:02:08):
days they're wearing. And you're sitting right here, what did
you think of like the wardrobe and like the effect
that's sort of like the wardrobe pad on the show.
Amazing mom jeans, so many great mom jeans throughout the series,
which is so big now. But I was just thinking
I got bangs that when I was watching None Tunona
was super into it because I was like, oh my gosh,

(01:02:28):
everyone on the show has bangs, but banks are really
hard to make look good every day. So you guys
really set my bangs expectations too high. Thank your mom
for that. Yeah, and um, Shannon had cool bangs. Her
hair is always so poofy and perfect. Yeah, she has
great hair. Um, are there any trends that we wore

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that are in now that you're like, I didn't like
it then, don't like and now, well not that you
liked it then, but when you saw it in middle
school and now it's in now. Um, there's some cool
like leotard moments. I'm thinking, like the pilot. I know
you got made fun of for that, but that was
that's actually kind of feel like everything, uh, quirky and
kind of weird is cool now Kyle girl boots with

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like shorts, you know, or like random things that you're
like weirded out by, but then it's cool, like even um,
you're the flannel that she's wearing is super cool and
the blazers are cool. I don't know, It's just these
characters were so unique. Do you think the MATCHI is
going to come back, like where they would match their
dresses to the perfectly dyed shoes to the purse for sure? Sure, Yeah,

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I feel like so. I hope so too. The parts
is iconic, I think yeah, Just like the amount of
effort that um people put into looking que is kind
of more of a thing now after quarantine, everyone's excited
to get dressed up after standing a year in pajamas.
Do you remember at the malls, they used to have

(01:03:57):
a store and you could go into it and it
was inexpensive. You get white satin shoes and they would
dye in them any color. Yeah, and then like Sarah
Jessica Parker, like that went out because with Sex in
the City, it was like all about mismatch. So like
any popa color with like a totally different color on
top and all different things thrown in. But I kind

(01:04:18):
of the match you. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah she
made showing your bra strap cool, Carrie or accepted. Yeah,
what about Steve's turtle that way, let's talk about the
turtle action. Okay, he's wearing a turtle net first of all,
which I know you you love. Um, he has that
one in real life, right, John? Yep? Does? We've seen

(01:04:41):
the vessel? Is what I need to talk about. He
is wearing that. It looks like my grandma's slipcover or
like her curtains. Like it's like like a big bear cabin.
Poor guy, and it's ginormous. It's like it's like a
fishing vest on him. But he's at a party I

(01:05:02):
don't understand, and he has a turtle like under it.
There's so many things happening. What's the temperature at this party?
Because and with some tapestry hanging on him. Yeah, it's
a weird look. I'm surprised he didn't say no to
that one. Okay, So nine O two one, No you
didn't favorite lines from the episode, ladies, I don't have

(01:05:22):
one that sticks out either. Um. I was trying to
remember it because I on the way here. We were
actually listening to the show because Luke was rewatching it. Um.
It was something about when Kelly said, who's the Who's that?
Is that? The guy that's in the picture over your
mantle of your fireplace? Is he the honky stud in
the little red bathing suit? No? Yeah, what why is

(01:05:43):
there a picture of him other fireplace? You know? Bathing
suit is what I want? And why is it red?
And why is it little? Those were my questions. Valid.
I love the things you spot in the episode. No,
it's good. Well you guys. You guys don't have any
favor lines. That's not fair some episodes I feel like, yeah,

(01:06:09):
but we have some questions. You guys want to get
to those. Okay, this is from anonymous. Was there any
food or special treat craft services provided that you really miss? Now?
I assume you can just buy it for yourself now,
but what stands out? Yeah, but we can buy it,
but it's not like all cleaned and cut and presented

(01:06:29):
on a tray like a craft services. I mean, do
you think people don't know what craft services? Should we
kind of like explain that? Okay, so craft services when
you work on a set there's a craft service man
or woman or person whoa UM and they can they
bring off food so people can snack throughout the day
because you eat breakfast, then you eat lunch, and then

(01:06:50):
you eat dinner and there's a long time in between,
and so they have this like table will pre COVID
they had at a table just plethora of choices, like
a smorgash board of treats and snacks and candies everything
you could ever imagine. It was something like whenever you
go to a set, you like, where's the craft service table?
You'd find it immediately for sure. And and it depends

(01:07:13):
on the production, like if it's a low budget film
or something like you'll have like a backup Ta Tricks
or something Granola bars. Yeah, exactly. We had a good
craft service From what I remember, there was always a
lot of food and sandwiches coming out. What did you?
What did you? What was what's your go to at
a craft service table? Pre Corona because now they don't
do it that way. Everything's like, well, I've think of

(01:07:35):
a set since Corona and it was um they had
like a craft service table, but there was a lot
of rules around it, like nobody you can't touch it.
Now they have to hand it to you, right, you
can't go over. That was a whole fun standing around talking,
But I can understand how that would not be allowed
now because like people just stand around the craft service
table and yack it up and like they're just few

(01:07:57):
in there is a live everywhere. Probably it's really not
very sanitary, that's true. But then you eat less now though,
because you feel embarrassed because you have to, like from
six ft away, be like can I have that? But
you want to like just look at it because you're
not even sure if you wanted. You want to read
the ingredients, but you can't do that now. So my
favorite thing at crafts there was always the candy selection

(01:08:19):
because there's so much, so many different kinds of things
you wouldn't normally try and are we'd always have cups,
cups of candy, cups of candy whatever. Yeah, just employ
us with candy. We'll keep acting as long as you
want all that. I think I used to eat uh
hot to Molly's so um. Now like when I'm want

(01:08:39):
to set, my instinct is always like do you have
hot to Mollies? And like people don't really have that anymore.
But I just remember always having a cup of hot
to Mollies, Like I love them so much that I
think that sounds good. I love a hot Tolly. I
do remember having like an obsession at one point. I
think I was pregnant with either you or one of
your sisters. I was on another set. Uh. I had
to have strawberry soda at all times, Like when I

(01:09:03):
was at I just had to have a strawberry soda
in my hand. In your contract, no, not in my contract.
But I was pretty convinced that my child is going
to come out pink were like pink Care, but she didn't.
My favorite memory ever going to work with my mom
is that her other show she did Right Afternoon to
Know What I Like about You. Every Friday they would

(01:09:25):
bring a Crispy cream box and they said it was
just for me, but every Friday was very special special treatment. Yeah. Wow,
I don't remember this. Why didn't I get any donuts?
Love that al right? Next questions from Brad. He says,
do you guys still get residual checks every time in

(01:09:45):
episode airs on TV? Yes? And and they're like two
cents now? No really, yeah, because what happens is like
sagum after a kind of makes the rules when it
comes to how residuals come to the actors, and um,
residual is like when they pay you for an episode

(01:10:07):
that's already been on if they re air it. So
these episodes have been re aired so many times. Every
time it airs, the price goes down. The what they
give they paid the actors goes down, down, down, down
down to literally what she just says, like two cents
a check for two cents or something. But you can,
you know, you can add up the two cents and
probably come up with like not you know, seven dollars,

(01:10:31):
probably be even because it's two cents, but uh yeah,
it adds Uh that's my point. Um okay. Brad is
also asking where all cast members paid the same salary
equally or were some paid more. We're not paid equally,
We're not paid equally. Did it cause friction between you
guys or did you guys not know? I think we

(01:10:52):
all knew. It just wasn't something that we worried about.
We I mean, I didn't hold it against any one.
What what how alred salaries are different. I didn't think
less of somebody because they had a lesser salary. I
think that that that was based on when you go in,
what your quote was, what work you'd already done previously

(01:11:13):
to sort of establish your your rate, and then you
go from there and you negotiate that every year you
can kind of negotiate up from that rate, you know.
I just remember I didn't really care, but I got
paid less than everybody, and to the point where it
was like crazy, how like it wasn't actually like fair. Um,

(01:11:37):
And I wasn't comfortable say anything to my dad because
I didn't want special treatment. So I was like, I
don't know what to do. So I remember my agent
had to go in and renegotiate to even bring me.
I mean I'm talking about like I was making less
than what like a co star would make. Yeah, I
was a regular, But didn't we at one point, like
the first two stand together and and sort of solved.

(01:11:58):
I think I maybe spearheaded a movement to get everyone
to sort of make the same salary at one point
later later in the in the series, yes, and I
feel like we tried, but it didn't happen. It didn't happen.
And then when friends did it, he was like, see

(01:12:20):
you guys, look and we're like crap, what do they get?
Like later on in the series, when you had other
um cast members that were regulars but they hadn't been
you know, part of the O G crew, I'm assuming
you guys still made more than m right, Yeah, most

(01:12:42):
of the time. Again, it just kind of comes down
to like what you come in at, what your quote
is when you come in at, and then how intricral
you are to the show, how many episodes you're in
if you're in every episode, and then how good of
a negotiator your agent has come time to renegotiate. We're
the contracts per season. M hmm. No, I feel like

(01:13:04):
I renegotiated every season. I could be wrong about that,
but I feel like there was a salary there was
There were built in bumps, and then they would try
to go for more I think, But yeah, that's how
was structured. Right. There was like a yearly salary and
then if it's the show gets picked up for another seasons,
you get x amount more. On top of that, they

(01:13:27):
had it all laid out. Listen, Money's not either of
our strong suits. So we were just happy to be
making a paycheck for sure. And now you still get
that paycheck two cents every Now I'm seeking you out
to dinner tonight. We're going to Denny. Hey, I love Denny's.

(01:13:49):
The only reason I said that. We have these uh
friends on on Kiss to two jocks and they're going
to thirty Dennis in thirty days for no reason whatsoever,
Just because I love Denys. Yeah. Wow, I love a
Denny's breakfast. Kids he free on their birthday, never gone,
not a I always I always see this sign. I

(01:14:11):
don't think so you should really take them up on that.
With five kids, I know a lot of money after year.
Well that doesn't ladies. That's our episode. I hope you
guys liked it. Thanks fun, Thanks for letting me sit in.
It was cool to be here live. And now when
I'm listening in my headphones, I'm gonna be like, I

(01:14:33):
know exactly how it goes down into workings. Well, you
know what's going to happen now, right, there's gonna be
listener questions for you. Yeah, no, I'll be sending in
listener questions. I'll be on your friend cheete. Thanks guys,
thanks for listening. Thank you. What's your episode next week? Oh?

(01:14:54):
Good question? Good question? Find it in my notes on
man it's UM season two, episode twelve, Down and out
of district in Beverly Hills. All right, everybody watch it.

(01:15:15):
Do your homework, we will do ours, and we will
talk about episode twelve next week. Bye guys, Bye bye,