August 2, 2025 • 30 mins
Leslie and Theresa might have competed against one another on "The Golden Bachelor," but these two single gals are now thick as thieves!
These Golden Girls tell Jennifer Fessler why they're tired of being called "cute" and why the older crew brought the heat to the beach on Bachelor in Paradise.
Should you FaceTime before a date? The ladies are giving their unfiltered opinions.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome back. It's I Do Part two and I am
one of your celebrity mentors, Jennifer Bessler. You know me
from the Real Housewives of New Jersey and today I
am coming to you from the gorgeous Lake Tahoe, where
I'm joined by some incredible golden women. These ladies are
living proof that life only gets better and more fulfilling
as you get older. From The Golden Bachelor, it's Teresa
(00:30):
Niss Hello. And from The Golden Bachelor and this season
of Bachelor in Paradise, it's Leslie Fema.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
A you guys, We're so happy welcome. Not as happy
as I am to have you. I I'm a little obsessed,
but I also I do want to let everyone know
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Lake Tahoe. And I want everyone to know that because
now this is my absolute destination. How gorgeous is it here?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm definitely I'm bringing my kids here. I mean, who
knew I was always a peach person? Yes, and the
way that like they're what they're facing, they're the mould eggs.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We're blown away?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yes, right, are actually used to good views though you've
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Speaker 1 (02:16):
So you guys, I also want our listeners to know
that we are at a pickleball tournament, which seems to
write is reflected reflected, I do not play pickleball. I
rather would lay out by the pool, hence the non pickle.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Entire.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yes, that's not my things. But so you both are
partnered up for the tournament, right, you had a game
plan going into this.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Well, actually, Teresa was in Minneapolis a couple weeks ago
and we did play. We played with two of my
friends and we did really well.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I think we're a good team.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Do we name the team? Is there a name?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I the hottest of the back, the hottest of the Golden,
the Hottest.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Although I actually love a few of you guys this show.
I loved so much watching The Golden Bachelor and the
Golden Bachelorette and now Bachelor in Paradise, I have to
say I feel like I was waiting and waiting for
them to, you know, finally recognize that there are women
on that are walking this world who are not twenty
(03:32):
and one hundred and ten pounds and hot. And there
are women that are even hotter because they are older
and smarter and wiser.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So I have been really happy, not that they give
what I think, but the fact that The Bachelor, you know,
started this.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I'm really glad that they are acknowledging women our age
and men our age as well.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know that that's huge.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
We feel like we're finally showing the world what has
a has been that when you're at this age you
still have so much love and life to give.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So a man's sister, Yeah, what are the what is
the age range getting on the show? Is they take?
What is it?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, for our show, it was sixty and up.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Okay, yeah it started, so I got three more years
Jeff Ussler before I get it. Just kidding, just kidd it, okay,
sixty and up. Yeah, And I feel like you all
on the younger side.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I was sixty five when I was on, so I was,
but there were there were a lot of women that
were sixty really and.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I turned seventy the night that show. It was her birthdayes, Well,
you are not very am She's amazing, No, I.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Mean, it's just it is really incredible. I mean, with
the legs of it, all you guys in these like outfits,
I can't it is.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah. Sometimes we're like, are we dressing all right?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Plenty of people tell us we're not dressing. We don't care.
You get that really? Okay, yes, we get that. I
get that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I mean, I'm a big cursor, so please forgive me.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
But them, I know, I mean it's I don't really
care people think, you know, I try to keep try
to it his very own. Yeah, ever makes you exactly
anyone else exactly?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
This is what makes in my view, older women hotter.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah right, it's I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And also like, as long as my kids don't go,
oh my god, mom, what are you wearing? Then I'm okay.
You know, like if they did say that to me,
I'd be like, all right, maybe I'd better take this off.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But they don't.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, my kids do say it to me, and I say,
stay in your please stay in your exactly that way I.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Tend to my daughter to send me straight. Is this wrong?
Is I like that?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
No, I'm I don't listen to them at all. But anyway,
moving on, So, Leslie, I am enthralled by Bachelor in
Paradise and what is going on with you? So let's
just kind of first start out there. Okay, so talk
to me about you and Gary. You guys had such
a nice moment on the beach. I have to say.
I saw him obviously on the Bachelorette. What a doll
(06:08):
of a man, I mean, just sugar, right, yeah, is
he's so sweet. He just seems so warm and wonderful.
So tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Well, the funny thing is I hadn't met Gary at all,
and some of the other people did things and they
met each other, but I hadn't met Gary. And then
they were they announced us on the finale of Grant's season.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So I walked into the green room.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
It's the first time I met Gary, and I walk
in and he is just larger than light really, and
you know, he's so kind, and we became fast friends,
you know, because we were going out, like at the
end of the show and Jesse was going to say,
and we have a surprise, you know, the Goldens are
coming to Paraguis, And so we were the two people
that were announced together.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I didn't think, you know, I mean, we didn't really
talk after that at all. I mean, we had like
two months before we were going, and so when I
got to Paradise and Gary came came a couple of
days later than I did, I don't know, we just
like hit it off and we had talked in the
green room, we're gonna dance because we both like to dance.
(07:11):
And then he gets this day card and it's dancing,
and so he decided to take me on the date
and I was thrilled and we had the best time
because it like every night in Costa Rican May, it rains,
so of course I started to rain and everything's outside,
you know, the dance floor of the band, the dancers,
they're all outside, and we danced in the rain.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I kicked my shoes off. We had so much fun.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
We were so good partners. You guys were like, you're
really well matched.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Serious. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I mean I, first of all, I dance, but I
do not sell a dance. I mean I've never taken
a lesson. I've done ballroom dance. I don't do anything
like that. Well, so you know, he's like, let me
take the lead. I'm like, okay, okay, that's gonna be
hard for me, but okay, but we Yeah, we just
had so much fun and we just literally had a
great time.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
That's what it looked like. There are so many dates
where you're like, you see like the awkwardness or it
doesn't seem like the connection is real. But I felt
like watching that, like you guys were just really honestly,
earnestly having a good time.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, I can't like stress enough.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
How we just like couldn't stop laughing and making jokes.
And we had a little thing we like would wipe
our brow and then flick it because.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
The rain was like in our face. So we just
we're great.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And you know what, guys will have to watch the
show to see what happens, obviously, but I can honestly
say right now he's one of my dearest friends.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Love it, And that's all I can really say about that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
All Right, Well, I want to know, then you had
that moment with Captain Kim Teresa, what do you think
of that poem?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I loved it. I loved it so much. You did
so great.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
She was so good in that moment. She listened intently,
she told him it was beautiful. Yeah, she gave him
his due.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I loved it. She handle it. Thank you, well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'm not really surprised that you loved it, because I
have to say that it felt like a gary move,
like a.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Little bit depends who the woman is, a little cringey.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, but also very The problem was that I was
in a predicament because we didn't know who was going
to go first, and I can't tell Natasha who to
pick that. I'm not going to do that, you know,
so obviously, so I was hoping i'd be called first
so I can give Gary my rose, because of course
I want to give my rose. We just literally had
(09:36):
this amazing date, and I was really scrambling in my head,
like what if I don't get called first, because I
heard that Natasha might want to pick Gary, and I'm like,
what would I do? Well, I'll figure that out when
I get there, right, So it happened, and I literally
was standing there thinking, I don't know what to do
right now, I don't know who to pick.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I'm glad, I mean, I'm I was happy. He just
seems such also.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, and so I did.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I did tell him after he wrote that poem for me.
I did say, you know, Kim, I would have given
I wanted to be honest with them. I said I
would have given Gary may rose if I had been
called first, but I felt like, you deserve to be here,
and you added the group, so I be honest.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I did tell him that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I love it. I love that. So why does it
seem like in watching it that the Goldens. I'm not
sure yet if I love that. I'm a little like
(10:40):
Iffy on it. I know, I don't know, But why
does it seem like the Goldens are having more fun
than I don't care, than the children. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You're the Goldens, they're the children, Teresa, You answered.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Because we're we have wisdom and we know that you
should not sweat the small stuff, and we know that
the things that getting upset about is it's just not
important in the large scheme of things. And we're at
this age where we want to enjoy life and have
yeah and have joined our lives and just will get
the good every part of this right, some of it
(11:15):
just seems just trivial.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, you know, we just don't care. We don't care.
I don't care if my hair is wet. And you
guys say that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
New I can't believe saying this. But there's like a
somebody who's viral, this woman who's says a club for
women in perimenopause and menopause, and so that we do
not care club.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I love that that She's hilarious, but that's us, that's
Costa Rican.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
We don't care, like we'll just do anything, say anything,
like who cares? I mean, you know we're being judged.
We're sixty six, sixty eight, seventy, I don't it doesn't
matter what we are, and we don't care anymore. Yeah,
and I think you yeah, it's like it's it's one
of the persons of getting older.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Agreed. Agreed. So I'm curious how you guys feel about this,
because so I'm going to be fifty seven in August.
But I watching it, I don't know. I was a
little triggered, And I'll tell you what it was. I
was a little triggered watching the young's and the way
that they were so aren't they cute? Yes, I really
(12:24):
really bugs me. Oh my god, or saying you know, wow,
talk about a cougar, or I could I better share
my cialis like that?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That bothered It really bothers me.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It feels very patronizing.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It did, right.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I didn't want to say that to you, but I
did feel that way on the first episode. I'll look
at them in their cute outfits. If we've never kissed
anyone or never babies, Yeah, we've been through so much,
and I did feel that way. And I was so
happy on the second episode where that went away, Yeah,
it did.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I think they were expecting something different, and I think
when we came in they were expecting, oh, you know,
cute outfit. I had a bikini on and all the
girls are like, where'd you get that? But you know,
like so I think they were expecting something different. And
after probably i'd say four hours, they were like, oh, yeah,
this is this is not what we were expecting.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, I mean, yeah they have they're human, who knew, Like,
I don't know, your bikini wasn't cute? It was hot? Yeah,
And I don't know. It just doesn't feel respectful to
me to be so patronizing. You know, at our age,
we don't need to be We're not looking to be cute. No,
right now, we're looking to be grown ass women sexy.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I hey, when people say he's so cute, I'm like, no, no, for.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Me, that is not for me.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
All right, So let's talk a little bit. We're going
to shift gears just a little bit. So a lot
of our listeners out there struggling when it comes to dating,
just learning to date all over again after having been
in a long marriage, a long term relationship. Obviously you
two have had some experience in this area. So what
(14:05):
do you feel like is your best advice now for
someone a woman who is getting back out there after
you know, being with someone for years and years.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
So before this all started, I was on the dating
apps and I did a lot, and I guess I
had hundreds of dates. I won't go back to doing that. Personally,
I think that it's just getting out there and out
of your shell and maybe do five things. Or you're volunteering,
or you're doing you're taking a cooking class, or you're
going out and meeting, taking a wine class. Just get
(14:39):
out and do things. And I really I said this recently,
like making eye contact with people and then telling everybody
in your circle of friends. And we meet so many
people now, so even to tell them that you're looking.
And that's that's what I think I'm doing at this
at this point.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, And I can say people do ask me like what,
you know, what's your advice with you know what? And
basically I tell everyone the same thing. Don't say no,
don't say no to anything.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Just go.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
If you're asked to go to a show, go even
if you don't feel like it if you're asked to
go to a concert, get out there, go have fun.
You never know who you're going to meet. You never
know who you're going to meet that knows somebody. You
might be standing in line at a concert to get
a drink and the's a cute guy ahead of you, Like,
you just don't know. And that's what I always tell people.
(15:30):
Just don't say no, and you've got to force yourself.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
When I was in my twenties, I was the director
of a dating service. Oh it's just lunch. It's actually
how I met my husband.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah it was not. It was definitely against the rules.
But here we are whatever, all these years later. But
I remember saying then and saying now with dating apps
because we didn't have that back then, right, Like the
whole thing about not saying no. And I know dating
apps can be tricky, but even if it's just meeting
up with someone never it doesn't have to be dinner. No,
it could be a coffee.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I would do a.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Coffee and not knowing, like expecting it, not expecting there
to not be a spark. Right, The probability is that
you're not going to click with someone in that way
until you do. But like having said that, potentially this
is a new friend and he knows someone for you
and you know someone for him. And to just if
you go in looking at it like this is just
an experience to make a new friends. Sit down. And
(16:23):
by the way, you're not giving out your home address
and so and and I feel like at our age,
it's easier to say, listen, you seem like a really
nice guy. I don't feel a spark, but you know,
and at our age, I feel like that kind of
thing we could take it.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
But there's nothing I'm staying about having friendships too, Like
you know, when you're our age, relationships and they come
in a lot of different forms. And I believe that
you know, having relationships whether it's a girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Or a guy.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I have a lot of guys guy friends, you know,
And I think that's important you know, around out your life.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I agree, you agree?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
What is? What do you feel like is different now
in terms of dating in twenty twenty five than it was? Well? Certainly,
well you guys, how long were you both? You were
married twice?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Right? I was, But I've been single for like twenty years.
I mean, you had a few in the social media. Yeah, yeah,
maybe not the social media. Right, Yeah, it's different now, right, Yeah,
it's different. I just don't I mean Minneapolis, I've lived
there my whole life. I know everybody, and it's a small,
big town, and I just don't see me finding somebody there.
(17:31):
Maybe somebody that is going to move there, or somebody
that has a dad that lives in Chicago or you know,
someplace like that. I would love to, you know, find somebody.
I don't care where they live, you know, But I
don't know. It's hard at home.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's hard when you feel like, yeah, you've met everybody
and you know them all. I know, I'm sure that
is what are you thinking?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
So my husband passed away almost eleven years and so
at first I thought, no, I'll never be with the
man again, and and then I did do It's what's
different about now. I guess the taking apps is that
it just seems like there could could be another better
person and a better person. But I love your advice
(18:15):
about not thinking of it in terms of it absolutely
has to be your love.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's expected, not to be expect but don't go into
it knowing, yeah, probably this is not going to be
a love connection. Yeah, but it's another human yeasting down
to I don't know nothing about this person, but like.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
That guy, I might know somebody or you know, you
just don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, and again like not taking it all so seriously,
I think not, you know, being our age. Also, and
when I was in my twenties and dating, it was
it was life or death. I wanted to get married
and have a baby. Yeah, it's all like me think
about it was so right.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, it was too. I got married at twenty one.
Oh my god, wow, uh huh eighteen eighteen.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I mean I remember this from the show. You guys,
it's just been a while crazy. My kids are twenty
three and twenty five. I cannot even picture either one
of them coming to me saying that they oh I
know right.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I mean my son got married at thirty and I'm like, oh,
you know, you're so young.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
But I'm like, no, he's not.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You know, Jess, I was thirty, I was thirty. Yeah,
I was thirty and Jeff was thirty six, and I
was like as much and I wanted it was long
ten years between twenty and thirty. And again like the
biological clock and I know that, but to kind of
not have that pressure now, right, like like we know,
like that was I felt like I had to get
(19:38):
my life started right in our life.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Because it was like TikTok, we don't go you know, yeah, yeah,
you're so right.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
That's what's so different now is that we don't have
that urgency. Yeah, we're not looking to make a family.
And I really love what you said that. Now I
might go back on a dating app. Really just think
think of it as just finding friends.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I mean, yeah, by the way, you might not even
hit it off as friends, but it's it's you'll have
a good cup of coffee, maybe you'll meet maybe it'll
be a really nice guy. And you put a time
frame on it. You could say, I'd love to meet
for coffee. I've got, you know, a half an hour
here in and out right, yeah, and see what happens.
Maybe you'll stay longer.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Never know.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, I'll go back into uh the dating stereo.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You should? You should?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I love that. Do you think that you should FaceTime someone?
And this is interesting because this is sort of like
I'm saying to you meet somebody for half an hour,
but or do you FaceTime a man before you go
(20:45):
out with him?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't. You don't I do you do? I don't.
First of all, I have to hear a voice.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So I if if there's just texting and a meeting,
I'm like, no, I got to hear your voice because
for me, a voice is says a lot and the
way they talk and if they have good grammar and
you know. But I know it's supposed to be just
a quick cup of coffee or whatever. But that's when
I was on the dating apps, I always had to
hear their voice first.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I understand that.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I feel the same way, but I kind of feel
like the FaceTime takes away some of the mystery of it,
Like there's an excitement about meeting someone for the first time. Yeah,
I do several phone calls before I would meet.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
It's also like, do you think that it's not when
it's not live, it's just a different dynamic. It's like,
you know, and it's like you can't you can't really
connect in the same way. And maybe if you meet
face to face there's some kind.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Of that's how I have there's a chemistry.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Maybe that could happen. I remember, probably not, but I have.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
To say I was on not the I was it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
It's not a matchmaker, but it kind of is a
matchmaker and they match you up and.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Then you have a zoom date.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
And I had a great Zoom date with some and
he was I could have talked to him and been
on whatever. And then actually he lived in New York
and I went to New York and I met him
for coffee face to face, and it was like a
completely different person.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And I'm like, hmmm, that wasn't how it was on zoom. Yeah,
so you just don't know. I know Lloyd's New York
for coffee. No, I was in New York.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
No, no, No, I was about to say I was
in No, I didn't go to New York for a
coffee day. I was in New York and he was,
you know, and I happened to be going there. I'm like,
I'd love to meet you, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well all right, And now I'm just
curious about how these how these guys, these older guys
find you besides the apps, like to any of them,
I hate this expression slide into your dms like the
young people say they do well, especially now.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Because you guys have said your daughter sliding into my
dms really for their fathers.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yes, me too.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
And I've had a man send me roses. Yeah, letter
and he's just convinced I'm the woman And.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Where is it?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
No, not for you, definitely got it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
And mostly we get very young guys like way too young,
really like thirty year old. Yes, we don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
No, I understand it. Do you want to explain it
to you? I don't know, I understand it. Come on,
I mean, I listen, it's whatever. I mean. I find
you both just so charming and lovely and beautiful. But
so do you get hit on a lot, like do
people recognize you?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
They recognize us everywhere? Really, but we don't. I mean,
I don't know, we don't.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
We get recognized by young people so much. All the
young people show and that they loved us. A lot
of times it's the it's a boyfriend and girlfriend and
the boyfriend recognizes us and or they were her and yeah,
and he goes.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I told you it was her. Yeah to the girl.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's so funny, you guys, because I got on a
reality show on Housewives. I was fifty three at the time,
and it's it's that's a whole different, you know, there's
a whole different situation. Housewis is whatever. But it's still
like I was able to kind of reinvent myself and
this not that I wanted even to reinvent myself, but
it was such an adventure and I think like for
you guys, I would think too, Like it says, what
(24:10):
an adventure you're you're having? You know?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Right, well everybody says did you have fun? I said
I had the best time. I mean, first of all,
I came away with like having a best friend are.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
So much?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
We were best friends in yeah, yeah, and then we're
the last two and we're like.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I was going.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
To say, see, this is also the difference I think
between maybe the younger the younger kids, and like like
the fact that you were able to maintain that friendship
even when it was down to the.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Two of just the two of you, that's tricky.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Well, I mean, you know, after that us going to
Costa Rica, I we didn't see each other, right, you know,
they keep us apart, and so I I did come
home broken hearted, and Teresa wrote me a beautiful text
message and she invited me to her wedding, and you know,
but but but I'm just saying we got over so
(25:06):
many things and we came out like I can honestly say,
this girl has my back for everything.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
She's my biggest cheerleader. I hope, I'm yours. You are
my biggest you know, And I'm going to cry because
it's like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I'm gonna cry to that was the point, you guys,
the point that you found each other.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
So I feel like a winner because I came out
with her, I know the same way.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean everything I know.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And now I've gone to visit her and friends and
her family, and.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
We went to New York together in Minnesota, Minneapolis life.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Now I'm going again keep inviting her to New Jersey.
I am asking taking me up on my invitation some day.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Just kidding. I want to go every time.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Then I had paradise. But things are going to call.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Let's walking around the people when you're when you do
make it to we're gonna. I would appreciate that later.
I have to. I just have to. I can't help it.
So the Gary of it all, so Gary, No.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
The Gary Gary, the Gary Gary Gary.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah I hate to say that, but now no, I
didn't say, you know, but now there's another Gary.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Gary, Yes, okay, so so the one that we are
no longer in contact with. But I mean, you guys
feel like it's a weird thing. It's a different thing
obviously with very different experiences. But looking back, do you feel,
you know, like it was an experience worth having loving
him and you know at this point or was it
(26:56):
just I hope it wasn't too wearbreaking and it was
worth it.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Way worth it. I in the experience overall.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
With him being good and you seem like a really
kind person.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well, I mean you're in a bubble.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, and my experience was probably different than Teresa's. But
my experience was he was very nice to me and
very kind, and he, you know, was very interested in
what I had to say, and you know, way different
than any other person I've been with. But I laughed
at my jokes. I like that I made him laugh.
(27:29):
I like that, So you know, I felt like I
was seeing you know, and appreciate appreciate it. But obviously
you don't know what else is going on. You don't
know other conversations at all.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's hard to watch back.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Do you get something here that we are so similar
in type? You really that there was there there was
a reason why he.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
D Yeah, very much alike it. It was hard for me.
It was hard for me to watch.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, yeah, that was terrible. But listen, now you're both
single again.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah we were a single.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Oh I love this the dynamic duo.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Same thing.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
So Teresa and Leslie loved having you on. Thank you.
I really appreciate having you again here quite quite a
long time now. I mean I'm telling you, like when
the when the show, when it first happened, I was thrilled.
I was just I felt like finally, and then you know,
seeing women like you and that are I don't know,
I'm not whatever. I'm not going to get too sappy. Yeah,
(28:30):
but women that again, I'm fifty seven, we're not far apart. Yeah,
but I just I'm watching even a little bit ahead
of myself and seeing what there is not just look
forward to. But you're so vibrant. Yeah, and so you.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
And that's the thing about the young people watching us.
They come up to me daily and say, you make
growing old look okay. You know, because when you're young
sometimes you don't think about it, but then it creeps
in your head like in your thirties, right, young you
know whatever, And that is for me my biggest I
just love that. I love being able to, you know,
(29:04):
motivate younger people to you know, stay in shape and
just be happy, do things and all that.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah. You know they say, we're not afraid to get
old anymore. Yeah, that's so rewarding.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I do love that.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
The best part of this whole thing, the friendships, meeting
all these people come up to us.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's one seem like, imagine what life has to offer, right,
like the adventures to follow. I mean, I am I'm
taking a random guest here, but I just think for
some reason that you, my friend Urisa are going to
end up on Bachelor's in Paradise one day. I just
see it, just see it. Just say all right, guys.
So anyways, so again, thank you, love your bank again.
(29:40):
So check out Bachelor and Paradise and it is on
Monday nights on ABC and streaming on Hulu. So do
you have dating horror stories you want to share? Call us,
email us, we want to hear them.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
All.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
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Part two an iHeartRadio podcast where fall Lank and Love
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Welcome back. It's I Do Part two and I am
one of your celebrity mentors, Jennifer Bessler. You know me
from the Real Housewives of New Jersey and today I
am coming to you from the gorgeous Lake Tahoe, where
I'm joined by some incredible golden women. These ladies are
living proof that life only gets better and more fulfilling
as you get older. From The Golden Bachelor, it's Teresa
(00:30):
Niss Hello. And from The Golden Bachelor and this season
of Bachelor in Paradise, it's Leslie Fema.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
A you guys, We're so happy welcome. Not as happy
as I am to have you. I I'm a little obsessed,
but I also I do want to let everyone know
that we are podcasting from Verbo at the Summerhouse in
Lake Tahoe. And I want everyone to know that because
now this is my absolute destination. How gorgeous is it here?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm definitely I'm bringing my kids here. I mean, who
knew I was always a peach person? Yes, and the
way that like they're what they're facing, they're the mould eggs.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We're blown away?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yes, right, are actually used to good views though you've
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Speaker 1 (02:16):
So you guys, I also want our listeners to know
that we are at a pickleball tournament, which seems to
write is reflected reflected, I do not play pickleball. I
rather would lay out by the pool, hence the non pickle.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Entire.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yes, that's not my things. But so you both are
partnered up for the tournament, right, you had a game
plan going into this.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Well, actually, Teresa was in Minneapolis a couple weeks ago
and we did play. We played with two of my
friends and we did really well.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I think we're a good team.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Do we name the team? Is there a name?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I the hottest of the back, the hottest of the Golden,
the Hottest.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Although I actually love a few of you guys this show.
I loved so much watching The Golden Bachelor and the
Golden Bachelorette and now Bachelor in Paradise, I have to
say I feel like I was waiting and waiting for
them to, you know, finally recognize that there are women
on that are walking this world who are not twenty
(03:32):
and one hundred and ten pounds and hot. And there
are women that are even hotter because they are older
and smarter and wiser.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So I have been really happy, not that they give
what I think, but the fact that The Bachelor, you know,
started this.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I'm really glad that they are acknowledging women our age
and men our age as well.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know that that's huge.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
We feel like we're finally showing the world what has
a has been that when you're at this age you
still have so much love and life to give.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So a man's sister, Yeah, what are the what is
the age range getting on the show? Is they take?
What is it?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, for our show, it was sixty and up.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Okay, yeah it started, so I got three more years
Jeff Ussler before I get it. Just kidding, just kidd it, okay,
sixty and up. Yeah, And I feel like you all
on the younger side.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I was sixty five when I was on, so I was,
but there were there were a lot of women that
were sixty really and.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I turned seventy the night that show. It was her birthdayes, Well,
you are not very am She's amazing, No, I.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Mean, it's just it is really incredible. I mean, with
the legs of it, all you guys in these like outfits,
I can't it is.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah. Sometimes we're like, are we dressing all right?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Plenty of people tell us we're not dressing. We don't care.
You get that really? Okay, yes, we get that. I
get that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I mean, I'm a big cursor, so please forgive me.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
But them, I know, I mean it's I don't really
care people think, you know, I try to keep try
to it his very own. Yeah, ever makes you exactly
anyone else exactly?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
This is what makes in my view, older women hotter.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah right, it's I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And also like, as long as my kids don't go,
oh my god, mom, what are you wearing? Then I'm okay.
You know, like if they did say that to me,
I'd be like, all right, maybe I'd better take this off.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But they don't.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, my kids do say it to me, and I say,
stay in your please stay in your exactly that way I.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Tend to my daughter to send me straight. Is this wrong?
Is I like that?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
No, I'm I don't listen to them at all. But anyway,
moving on, So, Leslie, I am enthralled by Bachelor in
Paradise and what is going on with you? So let's
just kind of first start out there. Okay, so talk
to me about you and Gary. You guys had such
a nice moment on the beach. I have to say.
I saw him obviously on the Bachelorette. What a doll
(06:08):
of a man, I mean, just sugar, right, yeah, is
he's so sweet. He just seems so warm and wonderful.
So tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Well, the funny thing is I hadn't met Gary at all,
and some of the other people did things and they
met each other, but I hadn't met Gary. And then
they were they announced us on the finale of Grant's season.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So I walked into the green room.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
It's the first time I met Gary, and I walk
in and he is just larger than light really, and
you know, he's so kind, and we became fast friends,
you know, because we were going out, like at the
end of the show and Jesse was going to say,
and we have a surprise, you know, the Goldens are
coming to Paraguis, And so we were the two people
that were announced together.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I didn't think, you know, I mean, we didn't really
talk after that at all. I mean, we had like
two months before we were going, and so when I
got to Paradise and Gary came came a couple of
days later than I did, I don't know, we just
like hit it off and we had talked in the
green room, we're gonna dance because we both like to dance.
(07:11):
And then he gets this day card and it's dancing,
and so he decided to take me on the date
and I was thrilled and we had the best time
because it like every night in Costa Rican May, it rains,
so of course I started to rain and everything's outside,
you know, the dance floor of the band, the dancers,
they're all outside, and we danced in the rain.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I kicked my shoes off. We had so much fun.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
We were so good partners. You guys were like, you're
really well matched.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Serious. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I mean I, first of all, I dance, but I
do not sell a dance. I mean I've never taken
a lesson. I've done ballroom dance. I don't do anything
like that. Well, so you know, he's like, let me
take the lead. I'm like, okay, okay, that's gonna be
hard for me, but okay, but we Yeah, we just
had so much fun and we just literally had a
great time.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
That's what it looked like. There are so many dates
where you're like, you see like the awkwardness or it
doesn't seem like the connection is real. But I felt
like watching that, like you guys were just really honestly,
earnestly having a good time.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, I can't like stress enough.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
How we just like couldn't stop laughing and making jokes.
And we had a little thing we like would wipe
our brow and then flick it because.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
The rain was like in our face. So we just
we're great.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And you know what, guys will have to watch the
show to see what happens, obviously, but I can honestly
say right now he's one of my dearest friends.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Love it, And that's all I can really say about that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
All Right, Well, I want to know, then you had
that moment with Captain Kim Teresa, what do you think
of that poem?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I loved it. I loved it so much. You did
so great.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
She was so good in that moment. She listened intently,
she told him it was beautiful. Yeah, she gave him
his due.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I loved it. She handle it. Thank you, well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'm not really surprised that you loved it, because I
have to say that it felt like a gary move,
like a.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Little bit depends who the woman is, a little cringey.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, but also very The problem was that I was
in a predicament because we didn't know who was going
to go first, and I can't tell Natasha who to
pick that. I'm not going to do that, you know,
so obviously, so I was hoping i'd be called first
so I can give Gary my rose, because of course
I want to give my rose. We just literally had
(09:36):
this amazing date, and I was really scrambling in my head,
like what if I don't get called first, because I
heard that Natasha might want to pick Gary, and I'm like,
what would I do? Well, I'll figure that out when
I get there, right, So it happened, and I literally
was standing there thinking, I don't know what to do
right now, I don't know who to pick.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I'm glad, I mean, I'm I was happy. He just
seems such also.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, and so I did.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I did tell him after he wrote that poem for me.
I did say, you know, Kim, I would have given
I wanted to be honest with them. I said I
would have given Gary may rose if I had been
called first, but I felt like, you deserve to be here,
and you added the group, so I be honest.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I did tell him that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I love it. I love that. So why does it
seem like in watching it that the Goldens. I'm not
sure yet if I love that. I'm a little like
(10:40):
Iffy on it. I know, I don't know, But why
does it seem like the Goldens are having more fun
than I don't care, than the children. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You're the Goldens, they're the children, Teresa, You answered.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Because we're we have wisdom and we know that you
should not sweat the small stuff, and we know that
the things that getting upset about is it's just not
important in the large scheme of things. And we're at
this age where we want to enjoy life and have
yeah and have joined our lives and just will get
the good every part of this right, some of it
(11:15):
just seems just trivial.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, you know, we just don't care. We don't care.
I don't care if my hair is wet. And you
guys say that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
New I can't believe saying this. But there's like a
somebody who's viral, this woman who's says a club for
women in perimenopause and menopause, and so that we do
not care club.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I love that that She's hilarious, but that's us, that's
Costa Rican.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
We don't care, like we'll just do anything, say anything,
like who cares? I mean, you know we're being judged.
We're sixty six, sixty eight, seventy, I don't it doesn't
matter what we are, and we don't care anymore. Yeah,
and I think you yeah, it's like it's it's one
of the persons of getting older.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Agreed. Agreed. So I'm curious how you guys feel about this,
because so I'm going to be fifty seven in August.
But I watching it, I don't know. I was a
little triggered, And I'll tell you what it was. I
was a little triggered watching the young's and the way
that they were so aren't they cute? Yes, I really
(12:24):
really bugs me. Oh my god, or saying you know, wow,
talk about a cougar, or I could I better share
my cialis like that?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That bothered It really bothers me.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It feels very patronizing.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It did, right.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I didn't want to say that to you, but I
did feel that way on the first episode. I'll look
at them in their cute outfits. If we've never kissed
anyone or never babies, Yeah, we've been through so much,
and I did feel that way. And I was so
happy on the second episode where that went away, Yeah,
it did.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I think they were expecting something different, and I think
when we came in they were expecting, oh, you know,
cute outfit. I had a bikini on and all the
girls are like, where'd you get that? But you know,
like so I think they were expecting something different. And
after probably i'd say four hours, they were like, oh, yeah,
this is this is not what we were expecting.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, I mean, yeah they have they're human, who knew, Like,
I don't know, your bikini wasn't cute? It was hot? Yeah,
And I don't know. It just doesn't feel respectful to
me to be so patronizing. You know, at our age,
we don't need to be We're not looking to be cute. No,
right now, we're looking to be grown ass women sexy.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I hey, when people say he's so cute, I'm like, no, no, for.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Me, that is not for me.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
All right, So let's talk a little bit. We're going
to shift gears just a little bit. So a lot
of our listeners out there struggling when it comes to dating,
just learning to date all over again after having been
in a long marriage, a long term relationship. Obviously you
two have had some experience in this area. So what
(14:05):
do you feel like is your best advice now for
someone a woman who is getting back out there after
you know, being with someone for years and years.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
So before this all started, I was on the dating
apps and I did a lot, and I guess I
had hundreds of dates. I won't go back to doing that. Personally,
I think that it's just getting out there and out
of your shell and maybe do five things. Or you're volunteering,
or you're doing you're taking a cooking class, or you're
going out and meeting, taking a wine class. Just get
(14:39):
out and do things. And I really I said this recently,
like making eye contact with people and then telling everybody
in your circle of friends. And we meet so many
people now, so even to tell them that you're looking.
And that's that's what I think I'm doing at this
at this point.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, And I can say people do ask me like what,
you know, what's your advice with you know what? And
basically I tell everyone the same thing. Don't say no,
don't say no to anything.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Just go.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
If you're asked to go to a show, go even
if you don't feel like it if you're asked to
go to a concert, get out there, go have fun.
You never know who you're going to meet. You never
know who you're going to meet that knows somebody. You
might be standing in line at a concert to get
a drink and the's a cute guy ahead of you, Like,
you just don't know. And that's what I always tell people.
(15:30):
Just don't say no, and you've got to force yourself.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
When I was in my twenties, I was the director
of a dating service. Oh it's just lunch. It's actually
how I met my husband.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah it was not. It was definitely against the rules.
But here we are whatever, all these years later. But
I remember saying then and saying now with dating apps
because we didn't have that back then, right, Like the
whole thing about not saying no. And I know dating
apps can be tricky, but even if it's just meeting
up with someone never it doesn't have to be dinner. No,
it could be a coffee.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I would do a.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Coffee and not knowing, like expecting it, not expecting there
to not be a spark. Right, The probability is that
you're not going to click with someone in that way
until you do. But like having said that, potentially this
is a new friend and he knows someone for you
and you know someone for him. And to just if
you go in looking at it like this is just
an experience to make a new friends. Sit down. And
(16:23):
by the way, you're not giving out your home address
and so and and I feel like at our age,
it's easier to say, listen, you seem like a really
nice guy. I don't feel a spark, but you know,
and at our age, I feel like that kind of
thing we could take it.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
But there's nothing I'm staying about having friendships too, Like
you know, when you're our age, relationships and they come
in a lot of different forms. And I believe that
you know, having relationships whether it's a girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Or a guy.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I have a lot of guys guy friends, you know,
And I think that's important you know, around out your life.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I agree, you agree?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
What is? What do you feel like is different now
in terms of dating in twenty twenty five than it was? Well? Certainly,
well you guys, how long were you both? You were
married twice?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Right? I was, But I've been single for like twenty years.
I mean, you had a few in the social media. Yeah, yeah,
maybe not the social media. Right, Yeah, it's different now, right, Yeah,
it's different. I just don't I mean Minneapolis, I've lived
there my whole life. I know everybody, and it's a small,
big town, and I just don't see me finding somebody there.
(17:31):
Maybe somebody that is going to move there, or somebody
that has a dad that lives in Chicago or you know,
someplace like that. I would love to, you know, find somebody.
I don't care where they live, you know, But I
don't know. It's hard at home.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's hard when you feel like, yeah, you've met everybody
and you know them all. I know, I'm sure that
is what are you thinking?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
So my husband passed away almost eleven years and so
at first I thought, no, I'll never be with the
man again, and and then I did do It's what's
different about now. I guess the taking apps is that
it just seems like there could could be another better
person and a better person. But I love your advice
(18:15):
about not thinking of it in terms of it absolutely
has to be your love.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's expected, not to be expect but don't go into
it knowing, yeah, probably this is not going to be
a love connection. Yeah, but it's another human yeasting down
to I don't know nothing about this person, but like.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
That guy, I might know somebody or you know, you
just don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, and again like not taking it all so seriously,
I think not, you know, being our age. Also, and
when I was in my twenties and dating, it was
it was life or death. I wanted to get married
and have a baby. Yeah, it's all like me think
about it was so right.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, it was too. I got married at twenty one.
Oh my god, wow, uh huh eighteen eighteen.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I mean I remember this from the show. You guys,
it's just been a while crazy. My kids are twenty
three and twenty five. I cannot even picture either one
of them coming to me saying that they oh I
know right.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I mean my son got married at thirty and I'm like, oh,
you know, you're so young.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
But I'm like, no, he's not.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You know, Jess, I was thirty, I was thirty. Yeah,
I was thirty and Jeff was thirty six, and I
was like as much and I wanted it was long
ten years between twenty and thirty. And again like the
biological clock and I know that, but to kind of
not have that pressure now, right, like like we know,
like that was I felt like I had to get
(19:38):
my life started right in our life.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Because it was like TikTok, we don't go you know, yeah, yeah,
you're so right.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
That's what's so different now is that we don't have
that urgency. Yeah, we're not looking to make a family.
And I really love what you said that. Now I
might go back on a dating app. Really just think
think of it as just finding friends.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I mean, yeah, by the way, you might not even
hit it off as friends, but it's it's you'll have
a good cup of coffee, maybe you'll meet maybe it'll
be a really nice guy. And you put a time
frame on it. You could say, I'd love to meet
for coffee. I've got, you know, a half an hour
here in and out right, yeah, and see what happens.
Maybe you'll stay longer.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Never know.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, I'll go back into uh the dating stereo.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You should? You should?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I love that. Do you think that you should FaceTime someone?
And this is interesting because this is sort of like
I'm saying to you meet somebody for half an hour,
but or do you FaceTime a man before you go
(20:45):
out with him?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't. You don't I do you do? I don't.
First of all, I have to hear a voice.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So I if if there's just texting and a meeting,
I'm like, no, I got to hear your voice because
for me, a voice is says a lot and the
way they talk and if they have good grammar and
you know. But I know it's supposed to be just
a quick cup of coffee or whatever. But that's when
I was on the dating apps, I always had to
hear their voice first.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I understand that.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I feel the same way, but I kind of feel
like the FaceTime takes away some of the mystery of it,
Like there's an excitement about meeting someone for the first time. Yeah,
I do several phone calls before I would meet.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
It's also like, do you think that it's not when
it's not live, it's just a different dynamic. It's like,
you know, and it's like you can't you can't really
connect in the same way. And maybe if you meet
face to face there's some kind.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Of that's how I have there's a chemistry.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Maybe that could happen. I remember, probably not, but I have.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
To say I was on not the I was it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
It's not a matchmaker, but it kind of is a
matchmaker and they match you up and.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Then you have a zoom date.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
And I had a great Zoom date with some and
he was I could have talked to him and been
on whatever. And then actually he lived in New York
and I went to New York and I met him
for coffee face to face, and it was like a
completely different person.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And I'm like, hmmm, that wasn't how it was on zoom. Yeah,
so you just don't know. I know Lloyd's New York
for coffee. No, I was in New York.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
No, no, No, I was about to say I was
in No, I didn't go to New York for a
coffee day. I was in New York and he was,
you know, and I happened to be going there. I'm like,
I'd love to meet you, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well all right, And now I'm just
curious about how these how these guys, these older guys
find you besides the apps, like to any of them,
I hate this expression slide into your dms like the
young people say they do well, especially now.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Because you guys have said your daughter sliding into my
dms really for their fathers.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yes, me too.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
And I've had a man send me roses. Yeah, letter
and he's just convinced I'm the woman And.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Where is it?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
No, not for you, definitely got it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
And mostly we get very young guys like way too young,
really like thirty year old. Yes, we don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
No, I understand it. Do you want to explain it
to you? I don't know, I understand it. Come on,
I mean, I listen, it's whatever. I mean. I find
you both just so charming and lovely and beautiful. But
so do you get hit on a lot, like do
people recognize you?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
They recognize us everywhere? Really, but we don't. I mean,
I don't know, we don't.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
We get recognized by young people so much. All the
young people show and that they loved us. A lot
of times it's the it's a boyfriend and girlfriend and
the boyfriend recognizes us and or they were her and yeah,
and he goes.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I told you it was her. Yeah to the girl.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's so funny, you guys, because I got on a
reality show on Housewives. I was fifty three at the time,
and it's it's that's a whole different, you know, there's
a whole different situation. Housewis is whatever. But it's still
like I was able to kind of reinvent myself and
this not that I wanted even to reinvent myself, but
it was such an adventure and I think like for
you guys, I would think too, Like it says, what
(24:10):
an adventure you're you're having? You know?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Right, well everybody says did you have fun? I said
I had the best time. I mean, first of all,
I came away with like having a best friend are.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
So much?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
We were best friends in yeah, yeah, and then we're
the last two and we're like.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I was going.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
To say, see, this is also the difference I think
between maybe the younger the younger kids, and like like
the fact that you were able to maintain that friendship
even when it was down to the.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Two of just the two of you, that's tricky.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Well, I mean, you know, after that us going to
Costa Rica, I we didn't see each other, right, you know,
they keep us apart, and so I I did come
home broken hearted, and Teresa wrote me a beautiful text
message and she invited me to her wedding, and you know,
but but but I'm just saying we got over so
(25:06):
many things and we came out like I can honestly say,
this girl has my back for everything.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
She's my biggest cheerleader. I hope, I'm yours. You are
my biggest you know, And I'm going to cry because
it's like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I'm gonna cry to that was the point, you guys,
the point that you found each other.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
So I feel like a winner because I came out
with her, I know the same way.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean everything I know.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And now I've gone to visit her and friends and
her family, and.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
We went to New York together in Minnesota, Minneapolis life.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Now I'm going again keep inviting her to New Jersey.
I am asking taking me up on my invitation some day.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Just kidding. I want to go every time.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Then I had paradise. But things are going to call.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Let's walking around the people when you're when you do
make it to we're gonna. I would appreciate that later.
I have to. I just have to. I can't help it.
So the Gary of it all, so Gary, No.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
The Gary Gary, the Gary Gary Gary.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah I hate to say that, but now no, I
didn't say, you know, but now there's another Gary.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Gary, Yes, okay, so so the one that we are
no longer in contact with. But I mean, you guys
feel like it's a weird thing. It's a different thing
obviously with very different experiences. But looking back, do you feel,
you know, like it was an experience worth having loving
him and you know at this point or was it
(26:56):
just I hope it wasn't too wearbreaking and it was
worth it.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Way worth it. I in the experience overall.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
With him being good and you seem like a really
kind person.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well, I mean you're in a bubble.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, and my experience was probably different than Teresa's. But
my experience was he was very nice to me and
very kind, and he, you know, was very interested in
what I had to say, and you know, way different
than any other person I've been with. But I laughed
at my jokes. I like that I made him laugh.
(27:29):
I like that, So you know, I felt like I
was seeing you know, and appreciate appreciate it. But obviously
you don't know what else is going on. You don't
know other conversations at all.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's hard to watch back.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Do you get something here that we are so similar
in type? You really that there was there there was
a reason why he.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
D Yeah, very much alike it. It was hard for me.
It was hard for me to watch.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, yeah, that was terrible. But listen, now you're both
single again.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah we were a single.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Oh I love this the dynamic duo.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Same thing.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
So Teresa and Leslie loved having you on. Thank you.
I really appreciate having you again here quite quite a
long time now. I mean I'm telling you, like when
the when the show, when it first happened, I was thrilled.
I was just I felt like finally, and then you know,
seeing women like you and that are I don't know,
I'm not whatever. I'm not going to get too sappy. Yeah,
(28:30):
but women that again, I'm fifty seven, we're not far apart. Yeah,
but I just I'm watching even a little bit ahead
of myself and seeing what there is not just look
forward to. But you're so vibrant. Yeah, and so you.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
And that's the thing about the young people watching us.
They come up to me daily and say, you make
growing old look okay. You know, because when you're young
sometimes you don't think about it, but then it creeps
in your head like in your thirties, right, young you
know whatever, And that is for me my biggest I
just love that. I love being able to, you know,
(29:04):
motivate younger people to you know, stay in shape and
just be happy, do things and all that.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah. You know they say, we're not afraid to get
old anymore. Yeah, that's so rewarding.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I do love that.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
The best part of this whole thing, the friendships, meeting
all these people come up to us.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's one seem like, imagine what life has to offer, right,
like the adventures to follow. I mean, I am I'm
taking a random guest here, but I just think for
some reason that you, my friend Urisa are going to
end up on Bachelor's in Paradise one day. I just
see it, just see it. Just say all right, guys.
So anyways, so again, thank you, love your bank again.
(29:40):
So check out Bachelor and Paradise and it is on
Monday nights on ABC and streaming on Hulu. So do
you have dating horror stories you want to share? Call us,
email us, we want to hear them.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
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Speaker 1 (29:52):
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