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November 13, 2024 44 mins

Jennie and Sherri Shepherd discuss the power of saying "no" and why everyone should practice it, Sherri's biggest "I Choose Me" decisions, and why she had to learn to date after her divorce.  

Plus, Jennie has exciting details about her upcoming "I Choose Me" live event - tickets are on sale now! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi. Everyone,
welcome to the I Choose Me Podcast. This podcast is
all about the choices we make and where they lead us.
I have such a good guest today, but before we

(00:22):
get into that, I have an exciting announcement you guys.
I am hosting our very first I Choose Me Live
women's empowerment event right here in Los Angeles on Saturday,
January eleventh, and I want you to come. The whole
I Choose Me movement started as three little words in

(00:43):
a script on Beverly Hills, Nana two and to oh.
It has now evolved into something so much more than that.
It is a message that I feel so passionate about
and it needs to continue to be amplified. The One
Day Lady Party will be focused on self care and
self love. We're going to have a great panel, powerful women,
lunch cocktails. It is going to be amazing. So start

(01:07):
the new year off right by choosing yourself. Or you
can make it a fun getaway trip to beautiful California
with your friends. I don't know, whatever it takes, just
get here. I can't wait to see you. All tickets
are on sale now, and all of the info will
be in our show notes. I hope you come. My
guest today is a comedian and actress, a best selling author,

(01:32):
and the host of her own Emmy nominated and NAACP
Image Award winning talk show. She's also the co host
of the hilarious podcast Too Fuddy Mamas. Please welcome Sherry
Sheppard to the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I just loved being on your show recently. It was
such a fun, positive experience. Oh and your gorgeous makeup lady.
I can't remember her name, Nanni. Yes, she let me
hold her beautiful little baby dog.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
It made me so happy.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'll tell her that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
And we are Q fifty sisters, which is so cool.
So I'm really really glad that we get to talk
to Dan go a little deep.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, absolutely, this is fun.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I mean you're basically the poster child for the age
of possibility. I mean you've you've had some time to
adjust now to this big, you know, next chapter in
your life, turning fifty. Yeah, but go back. What was
it like as you entered into your fifties?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Horrible? I want I tell you, I'm fifty, I'm fifty seven,
and when I turned fifty. I Jinny, I thought my
life was over. I thought it was downhill. I just
had all of this doom and gloom about what it
was going to be like. And I said to my assistant,
I don't want anybody to call me. Don't give me

(02:57):
the phone. I don't want gifts. I'm going to save
my room and cry. And if you even bother me,
you're fired, Like Larry, That's how bad it was. And
a friend, a dear friend of mine, what he sent
me changed my life. He went to, you know when
you can like send your photos to like snapfish, not
the cheating website, but it was, you know, you download

(03:19):
your photos and you can make a photo book. He
had asked me probably six months prior. He said, Cherry,
if you were to have a party, who would you invite? Like,
who were your top ten friends you'd invite? So I
told them. He went to all of those friends and
he said, I'm doing a birthday book for Sherry. Can
you write a story of what she means to you

(03:40):
and send me a picture? And he created this wonderful
book about turning fifty and Jenny, when I opened the
book and I saw everybody had a story about what
I meant to them. I couldn't stop crying, and immediately
my paradigm shifted about being fifty because I thought, this

(04:01):
is the sum total of who I am. I made
such a difference in these folks' lives, and if I
wasn't around, it would be a real big loss to them.
That's what they're saying in these letters. And I just
after that, I looked at fifty different. I said, this
is it literally was age of possibilities. This is like
life is short. Take the bull by the horns, try

(04:24):
some stuff you've never tried before. Go for it.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I love this book idea. I'm gonna do that. But yeah,
I'm sure that just made you feel so seen and
so like everything that you've done so far in this
life of yours has had such a beautiful impact on
not just people everywhere, but really important people to you personally.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Absolutely, that's a book that I've done for people in
my life, and I can see how much it means
to them, you know, because you can sit down when
you're feeling down and go through this book of the
people and what an impact you know you've made. So Yeah,
and relationships are important to me.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, so much has happened to you since you turned fifty,
like so many great things. Well, I mean, you have
your very own talk show.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Now a talk show, it's more acting has come in.
I'm writing a children's book which has been so much
fun for me.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
What's it about.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
It's called The Sunshine Queens, and it's really all of
my stories that I go through with my girlfriends and
how they lift me up and how we're so close,
and we're putting it into a format four an eight
year old about confidence, about self esteem, what happens when
you fall, how do you get back up? And it's

(05:47):
really all of my stories with my girlfriends, and we're
putting that in a book with four girls who just
have these great adventures together. And they're called the Sunshine
Queens because they all love to smile.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Okay, this is gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'm very excited about it. I mean from the from
the beginning to picking the characters and what their hair
looks like. And you know, I said, oh, I gotta
one's got to have braces because my girlfriend has a
visile line that she's always losing her visil line. So
you got to get somebody braces. We gotta you know,
there's me. You gotta make me. It's a character based
on me. So I gotta be a little chubby little

(06:23):
you know what, a cute little smile.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Oh, it's like a world of creativity for you.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I love the creativity. I love the sketches and the stories.
So I'm very excited about this book.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Well, I'm excited to see it because we need more
messaging like that for the youngest of the young. We
got to start giving them all this positive stuff that
we have learned.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Absolutely just pay you need. You know, having girlfriends is
a big deal. I believe we can't move forward without
women being undergirding us and encourage and those friends, those
deep friendships. This life is like, this is hard going
through life.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
If you don't have anybody it is You're so right,
do you like? How many really close, tight girlfriends do
you have?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Not many? You know? I probably five.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's good. That's a good number.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Probably five girlfriends that I have that are just I'm
so we've been really really close. And then now I'm
bringing in new people because sometimes you need younger people
to keep you young, you know. And I'll meet people
on the show like it's just yourself and I'm like, wow,
they're so cool, so so cool.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I know, and then you didn't even know, Like, and
everybody has something to offer, like something that they can
bring into your life that you didn't even see coming.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Like it's not wild absolutely, And that's the thing. If
you're open to it, somebody can bring something in your
life that is so wonderful, something that you never thought.
You can get something from every body, you's got to
be open to it.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, that's the key is being open, staying open, and
that's very vulnerable. That's a feeling of you know, that's
very scary feeling for a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
It is because you have to open up and you
have to you have to be willing to be hurt.
Which nobody who wants to be hurt. Who wants to
go into something knowing that you could be hurt. But
I think that if you've being if you're willing to
open yourself up, that's when you get the maximum from it.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I agree, I agree. I'm curious. You seem so grounded
and so confident and so in your body. I love
that about you. I always have. Have you ever dealt
with imposter syndrome?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
You know? I I haven't dealt with it lately. Now
I'm really embracing who I am and knowing my place
in this world and what I bring is pretty unique.
But yeah, even up until a few years ago, always
feeling like they're going to find out who I am

(09:06):
is not who I portray, and then when they find out,
they're not gonna want me. That took a lot to
get over. That took a lot to get over. It's
a lot of you know, me prayer, knowing that God,
God has ordained this in my life, that it's divinely ordered.

(09:26):
It's you know, he gave me a skill set. I mean,
I think I had a full blown panic attack before
I started the first day of my show.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I can imagine express a lot of pressure.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I had a full blown panic attack. And I said,
because we were supposed to you know, everybody who does
I'm the only talk show host who does a monologue.
Ellen used to do it, but nobody else does it.
And they wanted me to do a monologue. And I'm like,
oh my gosh, we didn't have a comedy writer. Every

(09:58):
talk show host, Jimmy ca Ellen, they all had like
they all have like twelve comedy writers who they give
them jokes. They feed them NonStop jokes. So for the
first season it was me. Season and a half, it
was me coming up with all of my material, and
I panicked because I said, what am I supposed to
talk about? Like I don't like, how do I come out?

(10:19):
Do I come out and go this is a monologue.
I'm doing comedy. What do I say? And like, well,
I couldn't breathe. My heart was beating, and something said,
a voice within said, talk about what Oprah told you,
the advice that Oprah gave you, Because I had talked
to Oprah that weekend for an hour and she gave

(10:42):
me advice. And I said, I can't talk about Oprah.
That was like sacred, that's private, and that voice said, no,
there's some very funny stuff that Oprah gave you. The
way you look at it, it's funny. And so I
asked Oprah, is there some things that I can talk about?
And she said, absolutely, do what you want to do.
And I came out and I started talking about how

(11:04):
nervous I was in my conversation with Oprah and it
was really funny. Oprah was like, oh my god, I
didn't know do I say I don't like that, do I?
And so I started realizing, you know what this talk
show was, It was a blessing. And I have to
walk into what has already been written for me, what

(11:24):
has already been prepared for me that place, walk in
it and be confident. Sherry. You know who you are.
You know you have the experience. You've been given the
gift to make people laugh. Lean into it, and right
before the door opens when they say welcome, Sherry Shepherd.
Some days I feel like, oh, I don't have any jokes.

(11:46):
I'm not funny. And my prayer is I always pray
for the audience. I pray that God will make them
feel better than when they came. And I also pray
for my live audience and the audience that's watching me. God,
show them that side of you that is laughter, Show
them that side of you that is you laugh straight

(12:07):
from your belly, that side of laughter and that side
of light, and show them you through me. And I
ask for fresh mercy and fresh grace and fresh jokes.
And the door opens up, and I'll just walk out
and I go, this is what was given to me,
And if it was given to me, then He's gonna

(12:27):
give me everything to see it through.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
That's right, because that's what they say. You're never given
something you can't handle.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Absolutely, And I sit in that chair, I don't think
about it anymore, sitting in that chair, and jokes just
come to me. Funny just comes to me.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, that's because you're just funny. I mean, jeez, speaking
of funny. Everything that you do, all the things that
you're doing, and you still make time to go out
there and do comedy shows. Why is it important for
you to keep flexing that muscle? And what is it

(13:04):
that you love about getting out there on stage and
making people laugh.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I love stand up comedy so much. That's my first love.
That's what I started doing before I became an actress.
I was a legal secretary and I took the other
secretaries with me to the world famous comedy store and
I got bit by the bug at that comedy club.
And if you go by the comedy store right now,
it's on Sunset near Lo Sienega. And if you look

(13:32):
above the main room, all the way to the right,
above the main room door, my name is the third
from the top, Sherry Shepherd. When they painted my name,
I was like, oh my gosh, so you can see
my name is one of the original comics there, not
the original because they had a lot of comics before me.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
You started in like nineteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, like probably about eighty nine, and I auditioned twenty
three times for Mitzy Shore at the Comedy Store. She
made me a regular. What do you talk about? What's
your name? Yeah, And I've been a regular there, and
I became a regular at the laugh Factory, and a
regular at the Improv and a regular at Ice House

(14:15):
in Pasadena. So you know, that is my first love.
Because I'm on stage, That's kind of what the talk
show reminds me of. I'm by myself, there's nobody else,
and I'm sharing stuff that I know that the audience
is gone through too. There's somebody in that audience that
has children. There's somebody in that audience that has a
teenage boy who doesn't want you to come into their bedroom,

(14:37):
and their bedroom smells like somebody came in and died.
There's five dead people in your son's room. There's somebody
whose son used X way too much. You know. There's
somebody in that audience who's been single and they're trying
to date and they're going through it, and I love
telling those stories. And that's what I get to do

(14:58):
on my talk show, an extension of what I do
on stage. So I do stand up even still because
it's so much fun to go on stage and know
that I can make somebody feel better with the story
that I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Right, because everybody can relate to you. You're a very relatable,
real person.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
You can reach so many people. What do you do
to prioritize yourself, like your self care?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I'm still working on that, Jenny. I have to say,
because this is a unique situation. When I was co
hosting on the View, if I didn't feel good, there
were four other women who could hold down the fort
and they could put a guest host in that place
of me, and I could stay home. I didn't have

(15:47):
to go visit affiliates. Barbara Walters did that. I didn't.
You know, if I couldn't go and see a play
that you were doing on Broadway, there was somebody else
could fill in and go see that play or read
that book. You have a talk show and it's just you.
I have to do all of that myself, and I
can't call in sick because if I call him sick.

(16:09):
There's two hundred people here that don't work, that don't
get paid. If I call in sick, they have to
show a rerun, and reruns don't do as well as
the original programming. So you know, there's nobody that I
can put in to take my place. So it's a
lot more responsibility and it doesn't stop after I say,
you know, you know, come back tomorrow. Then if there

(16:33):
is somebody that dropped out, they call me. If they're
looking for a booking, can you call that person shry
if they have to do a you know, change up something.
They call me for every aspect of the show. So
I'm always on my cell phone to come up with
my hot topics. I'm always on the cell phone looking
for interesting items. Zoe Kravitz and Channing Tatum broke up.

(16:58):
Oh my gosh, that means Lenny krab It is not
taking me to the wedding. I send that to my
team and got we gotta I want to talk about this,
you know.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yet, it's a lot of work. It's the Sherry Show.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Come on, It's the Sherry Show. It's like you know,
so it never stops. Plus I got my stand up
that I'm doing. I'm writing the children's book. Oh did
I say I have a nineteen year old son?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh wait, what about the Yeah, the mom roll, the
biggest royal ever.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Mom. You know, I'm starting to let my son take
the train by himself. My son is on the spectrum,
the autism spectrum, so I'm letting him take the train
by himself. So it's me in between photo shoots or
you know, doing a zoom looking at my thing, going
him going, mom, I'm here where I'm supposed to be.
I just got off the train. So a lot.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
It's so much to juggle.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's a lot to juggle. Jeffrey's older now, so I
can do a lot more because he's older. But I
used to take him to the comedy clubs with me.
I'd be in there with him on my hip. I
would take him to the clubs and go go in
the back room. So you don't have to hear Mommy
say a curse word. But you know now I have
to say intentionally on the weekends, we go and grab
something to eat. On a Sunday morning, he and I Intentionally,

(18:10):
I go, I'm going to go and get a massage. Intentionally,
I say, you know, you have to be intentional about things. Yeah,
I asked, somebody, can you take Jeffrey to a Knixt
game so I can have time to just go to
the movie theater and sit there by myself munch and
my popcorn, And that's what I love doing.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Those are all really great things to take care of yourself.
But you mentioned something about saying no. I remember you
talking about the power of saying no before and it
being such a stress reliever. So tell us about the
power of no, because it has been a difficult thing
for me to learn over the years too.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, no, because I would get stressed out because I
say yes all the time because I had this thing
of you know, I wanted people to like me. I
don't want to be would be mad at me, so
I'll say yes, And what that was doing was putting
a lot of stress on me. And then I would
resent that I said yes, but you can't. It's easier,
my pastor said one time, it's easier to change a

(19:14):
no into a yes, but it's hard to change it
yes into a no. And then I was like, ah,
now I got to do it, and I tell this
person yes, and it was getting stressful and I said Cheer.
You gotta put up boundaries because a lot of times
when you say no, the person will figure out how
to get it done. We keep thinking, oh, the world's
gonna fall apart if we don't say yes, but literally,

(19:34):
the world keeps moving, and so does your frustration. And
when you say yes too much, you get sick. It
even says when the plane, if something happens to the plane,
pull that oxygen mask down and take care of yourself first,
because if you're not full, you can't take care of anybody.
And I had to start saying no. I started out
going no, I'm sorry, No, you know I had to

(19:57):
do this, and I'd run down everything why I couldn't
say yes Now, Jenny, especially at this age, I'm like, Nah, Nope,
you can't do it. It don't work for me. I
know I could loan it to you. I know I
got the money to loan it to it. No, you're
not getting it. I have turned into that untie.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I love that. Yeah, because it sounds scary to say
no to people.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I tell young ladies to stand in front of the
mirror and practice saying no. Practice five ways to say no.
No that doesn't work for me. No, but maybe somebody
else can do that. No, maybe at a different time. No,
maybe we can go out next week. No, just practice it.
It's got it. You got to just start speaking it

(20:41):
and saying it. Everything goes where the energy flows is
where it goes. So and I've practiced saying no. Now
I'm at the point where I go, no, can you
do this on No? No? No? No am my off day? No.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
No, I'm gonna try this this technique. I think we
should all try this. Let's try all try to say
no to ourselves in five different ways. In the mirror.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'm telling you no now, I say no, Nuka n it. However,
I'll say it every night. No. Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Saying no is the ultimate ews me moment.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I think that's it. And you gotta let go of
people thinking you're selfish or you don't care. But it's
just like to preserve my sanity and my mental health.
I can't take all of that on, and I refuse
to do it now. Life is too short. I can't
remember half the stuff I say yes to, So if

(21:36):
I say no, then I can always go back and
go you know what, Maybe we can't, but I'll stop
myself from doing that. Too, I'll let my no be no.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
You made an incredible I choose me moment. I think
it was like over a year ago and you decided
to get your breast reduction that you shared about that.
It was so powerful because I think so many women
would probably be really afraid to have that done.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I did it. I've always said, you know, this is
what God gave me, So if he gave it to me,
why would I cut them? But what happened was it
started affecting my body, like they were so heavy, Like
I came out of the womb. Every woman in my life,
we all came out of the womb as a forty
two double D that runs in my family. I don't

(22:32):
have hips in a butt. I got boobs. And what
was happening was as I got older, they were so heavy,
and I would find myself interviewing people like leaning over
because it was so heavy. I tore a part of
my rotator cuff, and my chiropractice said, you probably want
to think about a breast reduction because you're carrying all

(22:54):
of that and it's affecting your rotator cuff. And then
I was getting grooves in my shoulders from my bra
They were starting, you know, when I was in my thirties,
my twenties having these big boobs. Oh, they were sitting
up front of my chin. After a while, they started
looking like I was going to church. I call them
church lady booth. It was sitting on my knees and

(23:15):
it was just like I could you know everything. It
just took too long to find something to wear. I
think somebody made a joke at a comedy club because
they knew me, and they said, Sherry's boobs are so big.
She's got like a credit card slide, like you could
slide a credit card all the way through. And I'm
a comic, I can take a lot. I laughed, but
I said, I'm just tired. I think that. I asked

(23:38):
a lot of other people who got breast reductions, and
I said, I think my little girl's my best friends.
They've always been my best friends. It's time to say bye.
And I did a lot of research and I found
my lady doctor. She was like amazing and she answered
all my questions. And when I went under, I just said,

(24:00):
when I go under, you bring me back because I
have a son. Because I think, you know, as we
get older, going under scares a heck out of us,
cause I don't know if my heart is gonna skip
an extra beat or And I just said to her,
I looked her in our eyes and I said, I
am a mother and I have a child, and when
I go under, I need you to bring me back.
And she was like, okay, Sherry, I do three thousand

(24:23):
of these where you think you're going. I was like,
I don't know. I'm just saying I don't need to
be nobody named Peter, Paul, John or Luke. What I'm saying. No.
So they did reduce them, and it just feels so
much better, like it's lightness. I wish I had done
it years ago. I tell people that it's so great. Girl.

(24:45):
My areola is it's like a quarter. Used to be
like a big used to like a big pancake. Now
it's like a little quarter. It's nice.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I got that's quarter size.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Good for you, nice quarter size. And she says, you
know you'll have a look little scar. And I said, look,
if a man can't take a scar at this age,
I don't need them. I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh h, that's good.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I like you.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
You love your scars. That's good.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I love them. These cars made a lot.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
I think by you sharing all this and talking about
it on your show and everything like there's I think
it helps so many people. I know, when I talked
about like when I got my hips replaced and I
shared that story, so many people just came out of
nowhere and wanted to talk about their problems with their
hips and how fearful they were of getting a surgery.

(25:31):
So I think just you know, talking about it is
so powerful.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, absolutely, of taking the fear out of it, you know,
of having it done. And I think that's It's just
you have a lot of women who've had to have
that done and they feel a little shame at talking
about it. But it's something so natural. We all it's
a circle of life that we go through. Things happen,
and it's just like, you know, our bodies have done

(25:57):
so much for us, but sometimes we got to help
them out, yep, to even be better, to live more
to you know, I talk about having diabetes all the time.
Some people say it's not really sexy. Well, I'm not
trying to be sexy. I'm trying to live.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, my priorities are a little different, things a.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Little different, you know. Yeah, I'm not going. My goal
is not to fit into a bikini, but my goal
is lived to be able to go to the beach
and be healthy.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Feel comfortable. Because you work out like a fiend. I've
seen you. We both work out. I've seen your workouts
online and you just are such a hard worker. What
time do you get up to go to the gym.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I get up at four forty five in the morning.
I have to be at the gym. My gym is
thirty minutes away, so I have to be there at
six in the morning, and it takes me thirty minutes
to get there. So I'm there six from six to seven,
and then I go straight to work and I literally
genmy My goal was, I said, I want working out
to be like breathing, like I want to. I want
to if I miss a class, I want to like

(26:59):
be your to go. And I had to so I
had to change the language. So I would go to
the gym and make these videos about oh I hate going,
but I went and I said, I got to stop that,
So I started changing my language going. I love getting
the chance to take care of me and thank you
Lord that you're giving me this opportunity for another chance

(27:20):
at life and health. And I love how I'm gonna
feel after I'm lifting these weights she wants me to
do fifteen. I love that my body is just like
taking to this. I kept saying, I love going to
the gym, even when I didn't feel like it.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
This is so good, this is so good. So changing
the dialogue, changing how you speak to certain things, make sure.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Changing how you speak to certain things, and it has worked.
I do love going to the gym. Now that's hard,
but I just keep going, Cherry, this is gonna be
some fun because your body is gonna thank you. You're
gonna feel confident, you're gonna be so when I would
go and do the show, I feel so good because
I even felt like I would say to myself, your
body is like leaner. My stomach still look the same.

(28:04):
I was like, okay, but it looked leaner.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
But you feel strong from within though I feel strong.
That's so good, that's so inspirational. Four forty five. Jeez,
I get up at six am to be there at
seven and my gym is thirty minutes away too. We're nuts.
Why don't we just go to like the local gym
down the street.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I don't know. I think by showing you know. And
sometimes I take the train to my gym. I think
that it requires me to show up. If it was close,
I could give them an excuse, Oh something happened, ba
ba boh. But this, it shows thirty minutes away shows
your commitment. You're committed to going because you gotta go far.

(28:48):
It takes. If I take a ob back, it takes
me forty five minutes to get home, and I fall asleep.
If I'm not working, I go to sleep in the uber.
I'm so tired. But I think it helps me keep
my amitment. And I go to a woman she's Moroccan
and she don't play, and she let me know my
time is valuable, so call in more than three times.

(29:08):
And you got to find another trainer that keeps me
on my feet too.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
That's good. Yeah, she's not taking.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
But I get up so early because I like to
get it out of the weight. Like if I got
to go at three o'clock with hair a wig on
and makeup on and lashes, I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
No, no, no, it has to be the first thing
for me to It.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Has to be first thing. But you feel I tell
people you've never you don't feel bad going after you
leave that gym. You don't feel bad that you win, No,
and know that the end result is you feel It
feels so good and being in this season lifting weights
is really really important for our bodies. I think a
lot of women don't understand our bones break down as

(29:48):
we get older, we start slouching. That's when you know,
when you fall and you break your hip, or you
fall and you break your wrist. You sprain your wrist
trying to catch your with like, we have to now
lift weights to keep our balance. So many benefits from listening,
from going to the gym period.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Oh yeah, anything moving your body moving anyway, it's good.
Like we can all be like Sherry and give ourselves
that appointment first thing in the morning. I think that's
that's gonna help a lot.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah. Walking, I love walking, Jenny. I walked four miles
the other day. My butt cheek froze up. That left
butt cheek was frozen.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Wait were you flexing as you were walking?

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I don't know what I was doing. I usually do
two miles. I can do one of two miles, but
I did four because I was like, well, let me
see if I could go a little further. Let me
see if I go a little further. And my butt
cheek was like, no, go home. But I did it.
I did it. I was so happy. I love walking
by myself. I used to take Jeffrey with me when
I walk, but he complained so much, how long we

(30:50):
gotta walk when we're gonna be done. It takes all
the fun out of it. So I walked by myself
with only I walked with one ear butt in so
I can hear everything else is going on on and
I just walk, and I my creative stuff comes. I
get to think about things. I love walking. Yeah, that
four miles almost took me out. That four miles.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Whoo.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
It's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
You listen to your butt cheek.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I listened to my I always listen to my butt cheeks.
They would never let me lead me astray.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Oh my gosh. When I was on your show, we
talked about communicating with our exes, and you made me
laugh because.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
You've got a great relationship with yours.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I mean it took a while, it took a good minute. Girl,
But what what what's going on with you at this
point in your life? Like, are you open to dating.
Are you dating? Are you going to find him husband?
Are you put on your own?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
That's the best option I am right now. My wish
is that Jeffrey Zaid and I could have a good relationship.
At the at the moment, it's not there. We communicate
by which is kind of hard to do, but that's
the way it works, you know. So I would love
like you are squad goals for me. With that said,

(32:10):
like with dating, at this I'm very open to marriage.
I think marriage is an amazing and amazing thing, and
you know, it's nice to know you can depend on
your mate. But I've gone through two very public marriages
and two very public divorces, and I have for me

(32:32):
and nobody else. I lost everything in my first marriage
because I did not have a pre nup And when
I say everything I was doing, the view broke, like
all my money was going to pay expenses for living
in New York and going to my attorneys. I hosted
a show called The Newlywag Game, and every check they

(32:53):
gave me was going to attorneys. So it was awful.
And then the second marriage, it just it costs so
much money, even though we had a prenup. That was
a great thing, but it cost so much money and
I lost everything again, and so having to build up,
you know, my money, my finances again, to take care

(33:16):
of a child who has special needs that's therapy every week,
that's a you know, that's a psychologist, that's he goes
to a you know, a special school. That's money, and
to have to build that up again. I just the
marriage is just not something that I'm seeking right now,

(33:37):
but I'm open to it. So nobody's came to float
float on my boat. So right now, I like being single.
I like being single and dating. I like being single
because I had to learn to date. Jenny, I would
date and get married. Yeah, so I had to work
with a dating coach and she said, you need to

(33:58):
date more than one man. And I went clutch my pearls.
I can't date more than one man. I came up
in a religion you dated to get married, and she said, no, Sherry,
you need to learn how to date, to just go
on a date and have conversation. You need to learn
how to date, to just go and have a nice time.
You need to learn how to date so that if
you get ghosted by one, you're not putting all your

(34:21):
eggs in that one basket and love with the first
one who gives you some affection. You need to be
able to go have a good time and say I
got another date on Thursday. So all your eggs aren't
in that one basket. You need to just date and
to figure out what you like, who you like, the
treatment you want. And that's what I started doing, so Jenny.

(34:46):
One day, whenever I would go to town, a different town
to do stand up, I'd set up a date and
I went at lane time. I had three dates at
a breakfast date, a lunch date, and a dinner date.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Oh my god, you're such a good student. By the way.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I went out Now, I was full because everybody took
me to a restaurant. But it was very interesting because
the first one he was a sheriff. I met him
on Instagram. Okay, he was a sheriff. He sent me
a DM he said, I'm a I'm a sheriff. Here's
pictures of me at the at the you know station.
Can I take you out? I said, Okay, you're not
a You're not a stalker or nothing, right? He said no.

(35:22):
But we we met in a public place. We went out.
He was very very much the the man's man, so
he was really jarring to him. So many people came
up and wanted to autograph or wanted a picture. You know.
He had made reservations at a restaurant for breakfast, but
it wasn't open. So there was another restaurant, and he says, oh,

(35:44):
that's not open. But I happened to know Candy Burris
who owned She owned the restaurant, and I'm like, I
don't want to like, I don't want them to think
that I'm usurping or but I texted her and I
was like, I'm outside. So he's like, we got to
go somewhere else because this is not open. And they
came and they they opened it up for us. That
was a little bit much for him. Yeah, then he

(36:06):
you know, he smoked cigars. He was gorgeous. But I
was like, you know what, this is not working. So
but I got a lunch date and the lunch day
was amazing, so much fun. He took me roller skating,
which I love, so he was very thoughtful. We went
roller skating and had a great time and he showed
me some moves he taught roller skating. Then I was like, well,

(36:28):
that was good, but I have a dinner day tonight.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Oh oh my god.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
All this was all on one day and the dinner
did I want up? Girl? He was gorgeous. He had
his own business and he built roofs. It was a
siding business. He built decks and muscles and whoa. He
was gorgeous. But he was used to being the gorgeous
one and getting all the attention, so he didn't like it.
And I thought that was great. We had a good time.

(36:54):
He ghosted me, but it was fine when I got ghosted.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, because you got to learn what works and what
doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
What works. But I have three dates and I was like,
it's okay because I'm going to North Carolina and my
friends set up a date with somebody else.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
This is I love this, Sherry. This is so good.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, because before I would date and I'd be you know,
you day, you have such a great time, and then
you go home and you're doing curly cues. You know,
you're writing your name with his last name, you know,
mister and missus, and I'd be like in love now
I want to get married, and it's like yeah, So
it was really great dating to see what I liked,

(37:37):
and what kind of treatment I liked. I don't want
anybody who smoked cigars, and I'm not settling that sheriff
smoked cigars. We got into his car and I felt
like cancer was coming. That's a bad joke. I shouldn't.
I don't want to offend anybody. But I was like,
he smoked so much.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
It just smell.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
It just smells so bad. And I was like, I can't,
I can't do this, and he was, I hope he's
not gonna. I'm not saying I don't want anybody not
to watch your podcast, Jenny, but he was mudery. So
dating is, you know, So for me, I like, I

(38:14):
like dating. I like if there's somebody that I date
a few times, I like it, and I like and
I like not sharing it. I know as a talk
show host, I share a lot. But there's some things
I have learned in the season of my life. You
have to keep something as special, something that's so special
that everybody's not in your Sometimes I think we overshare

(38:35):
so much on social media, and then when it goes south,
you're scrubbing off the pictures that you had with them.
You're asking everybody to respect your privacy, but you've opened
the door. And I like that I get to date
because they didn't ask for the fame I did. So
it's really nice to be able to go out and

(38:56):
just have a really good time and I don't have
to talk about it now, talk about the dates that
I go on. That there really crazy. But I like
being able to just state and have a good time.
And if there's somebody I meet, hell maybe I'll talk
about them.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
If I like him, see what happens.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I always tell my daughters, we'll see. Just think to yourself,
we'll see.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
We'll see. That's good. I like that. That's really such
a great phrase. We'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Okay. I like to ask everybody this Sherry Shepherd, before
I let you go, what was your last?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I choose me, moment, my last, I choose me, moment,
my last, my last, I choose me. Oh, it's so
much where I say, I choose me. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. I went to a private island. Somebody gave

(39:50):
me their private island to go and just rest. And
it was a person that I was seeing and he
wanted it to go. He wanted to be like, you know,
we can go and we have a great time and
we can do this. And I said, you know what,
I want to invite my friends because I don't want
to I don't want to be in a romantic thing.
I want to go to this island, be able to laugh, giggle,

(40:15):
not have to feel like, Oh, I don't want to
make you feel like you're not included. I don't want
to make you feel like you know, I'm being I
want to be, you know, because I took some of
my glam team and I'm bossy with them because it
worked for me.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
It's free to be yourself.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
I just want to be myself. And these feelings were
very hurt, and I said, I just I want to
do a romantic thing. This somebody offered me this private
island for seven days, and I wanted to be about
me and the people are brought and I want to
be silly and I want to be and I want
to be able to go back to my hotel room

(40:46):
I'm not well, the villa that was on the island,
and go to sleep. Yes, I don't want to have
to worry about, you know, is he having a good time?
You know? Are you having a Is there anything I
could do to make you happy. I don't want none
of that. And I chose me and I don't And
you know, I was like, and I don't care. I

(41:07):
want to go and have a good time. And it
felt great and I had a blast with my friends.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Oh, I think that might be one of the best
I choose me moments I've ever heard of private island
by yourself.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
It was a private island and we and had I
taken him, everybody would have had a great time with him.
But what would have been missing is all of the stories,
Like we really talked about our hopes and our dreams,
and you know, we stayed up. I one of my
dearest friends of twenty two years, Like, I went and

(41:39):
we got in the same bed and we talked and
giggled like we were schoolgirls. I wouldn't have been able
to do that.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, you just need those trips.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
You need those trips. I got to bond with my
sister friends.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Oh. I love that for you. I love it. I
just love talking to you. I could talk to you forever.
And I want to hear about some of those dates
going wrong, because those are good.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
You're laughing. I need to write a book. I've had
some do then I have. Yeah, it's been some. It's
been some funny ones. It's been some like okay, this
this is not gonna work all right? Oh you didn't
tell me there was a Oh there's a you got
a girlfriend. Didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Little detail you left that little one?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Now? Oh Hi, who are you? You know?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Oh my god, so much fun talking to you, Cherm.
I'll let you go. I know you're a busy, busy lady.
And thank you for spending some time with us.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Jinny, thank you so much. So when I come to
when I come to La, we've got to hang out.
I love you you too, girl. Bye bye bye.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Jerry is so funny.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
I love when I get to connect with her. She's
such an inspirational woman. I love what she said about
saying no. That word is so powerful, and I know,
after walking away from this conversation, what she said is
going to stick with me and hopefully empower me to
say no more. This week, as I choose myself, speaking

(43:10):
of choosing ourselves, as we continue to do that each week,
I want to challenge you to making a different first
choice in your morning. Cherry said she chooses to get
up at four forty five every morning and drive thirty
minutes to the gym. I know a lot of us
struggle with looking at our phones as soon as we

(43:31):
open our eyes, but we can do better than that.
So this week, make a better choice and choose yourself.
Maybe start with I don't know, letting the sunshine hit
your face, or drink a big glass of cold water,
or maybe go on a morning walk with your dog.

(43:52):
Take those first few moments or even hour of your
morning to choose yourself. You are worse. Thanks for listening
to I Choose Me and don't forget. Tickets are on
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You can check out all the information along with our
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(44:15):
and use the hashtag I Choose Me. I will be
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