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December 12, 2025 40 mins

Were the writers trying too hard?Someone on this show says YES.

Meanwhile, Detective Tori traces back the sports agent storyline, and Jennie remembers turning her trailer into a daycare.

Plus, forget her fear of flying...Amy reveals another phobia she deals with almost every day. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nine one.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
With Jenny Garth and Tory spelling. We are gathered here today.
Gathered here today.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Someone getting married.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
No, somebody's breaking up. It looks like on that ring, Kelly,
take the ring off her neck. Your amnesia is like annoying.
There so many things to say. It's annoys Esia, annoyed.
I may trying to make up a word that was
a good one, annoys Jia.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
It feels like somebody wrote about amnesia that doesn't know
anything about amnesia.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, what do you know about amnesia?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I don't know much, but I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I don't either, And you, guys, I was there to ride.
I loved this episode. I was in.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
So much happened. Noah, I don't know your boyfriend, that's all.
She's got amnesia about right and the Valerie of it all.
You guys, I'm here. I'm here for you.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Sorry, I got passionate.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Why I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Why is anybody friends with Valerie. She's not even doing
right by Brandon.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
She This was a whole new level.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Okay, let's tell them what we're talking about first.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
All right, Well, I don't even remember hold on Season eight,
episode four The Way We Weren't aired September twenty fourth,
nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Synopsis. Noah showers Kelly with attention, but when Brandon finds out,
you can feel the tension. Donna has it rough when
her boss's hound goes as stray. Steve's dream job goes
away here, but Big Daddy Rush saves the day. Meanwhile,
Valerie uses Kelly's memory loss to manipulate her way back
to Brandon.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
What I don't even understand? Why? What is her motive? Now?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Could we start at the beginning?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yes? Please go ahead, I'm sorry?

Speaker 1 (02:03):
No? Or should we just go by character?

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Actually?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Interesting?

Speaker 5 (02:08):
That's an interesting angle because I.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Are you going to change our angles in the season eight? No?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
No, No, it's just a vibe.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Let's do it, Let's do character, Let's do no Valerie
sin was Valerie? Okay, valoie.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
She's not nice.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
She's just a bad person. We're no longer giving her
sorry you had trauma. No, she's just a bad um. No.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I was hopeful. I was like, oh my gosh, maybe
Kelly and val can start over and be friends afresh.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Start now.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
No, one person who's always sort of been there, even
though she's so still kind of sabotages him lightly. Now
she's sabotaging him completely.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
It's so brutal.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
It's brutal. I don't understand what's okay. So she she
goes in. She's kind of like memory bombing or whatever Kelly.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Which they're supposed to do because they have that meeting
in the ladies room. You guys, what was that table
and book? You've seen these before when they all met
Steve Brandon Valerie.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
It's like it's new angle, Okay, thank you?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Because I was like looking, I was like, have we
seen this the bookshelves.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
And it's shot into the dining room. We've never That's
like completely a new way to shoot the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Do you think that was like a pick?

Speaker 5 (03:31):
So crazy?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I thought it was me.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
I was like, I just I guess I've missed this
one after because you guys notice this stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Maybe it was like a pic of missing some sort
of an insert they needed to explain the book or
something that happens.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Wait, you mean they're trying to.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Think they're trying to be crafty and new.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, And I was kind of there for it, just
like the opening, like not credits, but the like music
and like Beverly Hills.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Wait, I didn't say directed this Frank Thackeray and it
was written by Michael Cassuit Casuit. I don't know which
one he does know those people, Michael never heard of
him before.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I love so the director like kind of didn't he
wasn't overbearing or they weren't Frank gray haired man Thackery.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Frank sounds the name sounds familiar. I like the b
roll I like all the like cool Hills stuff, like
so much did that? How much? How much do they
allot in an episode for establishing shots? So because I
think we hit the limit.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
But you know what, for the first time in years,
I watched them all why why?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
What was it? I don't know. They were edited differently.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
It was like fast currents, Like it didn't feel like, yes,
you know sometimes nine two. In the previous years, it
was a different vibe and it was slower. So to
watch them now you're like, oh god, no more.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
More hip like a little more. We're catching up to
the times of the nineties now that it's nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
The stairs, the stairs of I was seeing things in
the nineties that were important to meet out on my own. Finally,
for the first time and the stairs of Santa Monica,
and did you used.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
To do the stairs of Santa Monica?

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Look me in the eye and asked me that question again.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh sorry, that's a really ridiculous question. I thought maybe
back in the day I did it.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I did it one time.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Very cute boy. No, you're just okay. That makes sense
to me that you would do it to like I.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Did it one time when I hired a trainer in
the nineties to try to fit in and she was
really nice, but I was like, I can't do this.
And I think I was like, oh, planning to do
it with my friends because they all did it.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I never I've never down Anica stairs.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
They're so narrow that I don't think you could really
enjoy chatting because I think you have to go in
single file.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Right. Yeah, it's like a it looks like one one
person experience.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Also, who can talk when they're climbing stairs, But it was.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
A thing I can.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
You can have an elevator, so I'm like, really good
at stairs.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Okay, that makes sense. That's so good for you. Amy
always take the elevator. I love that. I never take it.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I haven't been in an elevator since twenty seventeen years.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Wait, even if you're like going to the thirtieth floor.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yep, I don't go on elevators.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, we know the plane thing. What is the elevator thing?

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Same thing?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Glaustrophobic.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Like the other day I got stuck in a bathroom
like you know what a like that was at the
Soho house and I went in the bathroom and the
door locked, and then at first I tried to unlock
it and I didn't unlock it enough and just a
full panic of like.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Drap like that.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Okay, wait, cou go back. Does something happen in your
childhood that meets you claustrophobic and afraid of things like this?
All of these things? No, I feel like that's another episode.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
We'd have to dig into what would you have done
the spelling manner?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Never go in the elevator.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
You had been there, and they've been like, we're insulted,
you must please try our elevator.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
I'd say, spiral stairs. We learned your nine holiday shirt.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I love I am.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Of us about somewhere I gotta go find that. It's
the season to pretty.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Good shirt, It's I have that shirt.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I found it and I was like, oh my gosh,
perfect time a yere.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Okay, who can we talk about that?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
We were talking about all we were seeing, like what's
your evil ways? Our VW and and and what's the
who's thes? What's what's his name?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Noah?

Speaker 5 (07:47):
Noah?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
So go away?

Speaker 5 (07:49):
Noah is right, We've got a lot to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
What's the deal with this? Are they they hooking up?
Are they not friends? Or they well they have sex?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Correct, Well, we don't know, but we know that they
did stuff. But here's the thing that's befuddling me. If
she likes Noah and Noah and Kelly likes Noah, why
wouldn't she say, Kelly, you need to be with Brandon
so she could have Noah.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
It's completely confusing.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
So does she really ultimately want to be Brandon's wife?
Like in her core? Is that her goal?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Maybe? Maybe maybe she's like some sort of sick of
weirdo just want Brandon.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Sure, she for sure will wait to get married.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
She loves Brandon.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Oh my god, then she's gonna kill Sydney. Oh this
could be a whole movie.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh gosh. But Okay, so we don't know their status
val and Noah, but.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Then she now knows Kelly kind of likes him, so
she's definitely going to go for him. Correct.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Well, that's what's so confusing.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
She wants some more now I don't think she wanted him. Also,
she thinks he's poor.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Why what, Well, I can't I'm not gonna jump to Kelly,
but really it frustrates me when he walks Noah walks
in the room and she lights up like what why?
And also how about looking.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
At that picture of no what just like it's so weirdy.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Him, it's so creepy, such.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
A I feel like I know him the best.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
It's just the time's so so hard.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
You're a really good actress, It.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Is so true. I gotta give I gotta say, I'm
gonna give myself drops. That's some good acting right there.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
I it Wow.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Okay, come going back to.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Valerie's geting really hard. Like the writers, that's my thing.
It's always the writers in season.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Eight, I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
They want Tory to be like the Lucy character, like
from I Love Lucy, like having sort of like yeah,
but then.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
They destroy everything we've ever done with that ridiculous music. Please,
it's always the music. Oh my god, stop it. This
is not the Three Stooges.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
It's not making the comic relief.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
And then you can do your comedy, but please not
with that soundtrack. I like that you got to work
with a dog though. Wait we're stopped. I'm sorry we

(10:33):
jumped ahead to Donna Giant Dog.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
You said there making toy the Lucille Ball. You know,
I met the other night Lucille Ball's assistant for her
entire girl where that's cool, right and stuff? That guy
knows the stories. He must have just thought.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
I thought you were going to say so many other things,
but that like I was.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Like you Lucy the daughter. No, no, I thought maybe
you were.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Assistant and apparently the story that guy has better stories
than the kids than the acts. Trust me.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, how old is that person?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
And my dad made her last show which she played
Lucy and it was a sitcom and he reminded me,
he's like you were like eight and you came every
week and I was like, yeah, oh my god, my dad,
I was so excited to see that show. Now it's
her last show. Anyway, back to Valerie.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Valerie is bad. We got it. Okay, let's move on
to Donna. Because Donna's got a new job working for missus.
What do you keep calling her full name? It's so funny.
Your new boss. What's her name?

Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's not a yay name.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Sure, I was so confused. I don't know who your
boss is. I don't know if Charlie.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Is that her name? Missus Camp? What did you keep
referring to as?

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Because started with an s. Sorry, I can't put up
the I don't see this.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Anyways. You kept calling your new boss by her full name,
and she say she's giving you all these referrals, And
now all of a sudden, you're calling all these women
are calling you to be their stylist when she you
haven't even styled her at all yet. All you did
was go meet with her, right and then take her
dog to the vet.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
And who are the two other ladies that were calling?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Also, she's already she's so busy she can't take her
dog to the vet, but she can make time to
send referrals to somebody friends.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
So who were those two other ladies?

Speaker 2 (12:44):
That's what I was so confused about. Are already booked me? Yes,
she's now all of a sudden, highly sought out stylist
personal stylists. Between the last.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
An act of kindness, I took that one second to
say I'll take your dog in and because of that.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
But she was in last week's episode, yes, yes, okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Also you wouldn't know my biggest concern. The dog never
went to the vet. So whatever the dog needed at
the vet, it never even happened.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
He probably just need to have his anal glands repressed
or whatever. You know, that happens a lot. But also
I was worried that her watch was going to fall off,
because I'm sure it was very expensive. But she kept
referring to her watch in that scene when she was
running late and she couldn't take the dog and her
watch was like dingling, and I was like, oh my gosh,
somebody fixed her watch. It's right, you know, these are

(13:39):
the things you know.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
It wasn't real.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
It was fake watch, yeah, probably, But what about the
dog was real? Because he was real cute? You guys.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
He buckled him into the seat, which I wasn't sure
was safe.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
But I agree, and that actually bothered me.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
What do you mean you tied his leash to the
seatbelt or what do you mean, or you seat belted
him as a seatbelt and he just sat there like
a human. He's so big chestedt Oh my god. He
was really cute. But of course he leaves and I'm like, okay,
the dog's definitely dead because he's running around Beverly Hills.

(14:18):
He's on Beverly Boulevard, Santa Monica Boulevard. Where is he
definitely getting killed? And he was gone for an overnight.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Right did they micro chip back in those days? Now,
that wasn't a thing.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
This free?

Speaker 5 (14:31):
I think that was free.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, So what happened? How do you find your dog?
He came a home, he came a like, I know,
how do people find their dogs?

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Sign? I remember? I don't know. Like when my dog
rocks he went missing one night and I made signs
for her and put them up all over my neighborhood
like xerox, copied signs and staple them everywhere I could.
And then the next day somebody called because I had

(15:01):
put reward on it, and somebody brought her back. But
I think they were stealing my dog. They were they
took my dog and were like, we have a new puppy.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
They loved her so much until they saw a reward. Whoa, yep, yeah,
you're right, that happened to me.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
We talk about Hillary Swank.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Please don't if you praise her this episode, I'm like, out,
I can't.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
She's just doing it for five seconds, and as.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I'm watching it, all I'm thinking is Amy's going to
say she's such a good actress.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
First of all, I'm just like, I did this dirty?
Well they did.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
I agree with that, but she's in it for five seconds,
and like.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Did you just say they did her the dirty? The
dirty Sanchester Okay, and you did say that for a
number of times. Last week they did her dirty, But
this week she seems fine.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
She it's just Steve suddenly wants to date her so much,
and she's just like but there's slurring. But she's also
like I killed Dan Hill, Like I don't remember what
she said.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
But I'm just like, fella, Like I'm sorry. I know
you're you're new there, but say, can I not say fella?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
You think fella was written in the script? Hey fella,
that's like what hey, Fellah, she's gonna be gone in
a blank.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
I think she literally only does nine episodes.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, she can't be there for long. Because Steve's starting
the newspaper and that's where he meets Janet.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
You guys, yes, oh, but but maybe not for a minute. Oh,
she did sixteen episodes, so.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
We wow, well we're on number three.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
You think she did nine. That's like with the ninto
we don't speak of when you thought you did three
and you did twenty two.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Absolutely still believe I only did three episodes. By the way, Hey,
maybe the ever on the show gave me mn in
real life. Maybe I think so. Anyhow, I think she.
I have no problem with her and Steve together. I

(17:07):
don't know what the big deal is.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I have a problem.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I'm fine with it too, if they did it right,
like just let her go into the chemistry, and I
think they kind of do.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
I don't know, they just it's just Steve's.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Hair was on fuego, whoa fuego?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
His hair, his outfits.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I he was so erect all the time too, like
he was. Did you notice he's just erect all the time.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
That's a great word.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
It reminds me. The word erect makes me think of
Steve Sanders or Iron Zerring. Actually he's also very erect.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I just think get your head together, like you can't
just suddenly say you're an agent, Like I think that's
a crime.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Is he I'm sorry? Is he challenged? Like to think
that he's like, all of a sudden now going to
be a sports agent because he's so crazy? Oh wait,
I have a question.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
What ear did Jerry McGuire him out.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Later, Doug on it. I love that movie.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
No way, didn't I know too an O come up
with something in these later seasons on their own. It's
following Jerry maguire, Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
No, Jerry McGuire was later, you're right, wow, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
And I almost backed down because I was like, oh,
you put it? I mean nothing, No, I was.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I was honestly think you're going to get this one
because you have good instincts about that. But you're so right.
This came the year after Jerry maguire was on, so
somebody going to be like in their bonnet about, oh,
let's right, we don't know what the hell to write
Steve Sanders doing. Let's make him a sports agent.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
But then for like a blank because now he works
at a paper passboard.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Through every Steve Sanders scene minus the one with Hillary Swink,
just like the court side ones.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
I like looked.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I got the gist.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I'm like him out well.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I like the guy the sports agent that played the
sports agent has a good look about him. I think
he could have done things. He could have gone places perhaps,
but uh yeah, I'm glad that he's not going to
be a sports agent because it's just weird with that
his own that girl and she's hugging him and he's
giving her tickets. I feel like it's not going to

(19:20):
work out well. But maybe they're pivoting right.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Away, so that they've pivoted real fast.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
So now he's going to be a newspaper, a rag
newspaper owner. Yeah, is that what they call them? Rags?
Don't even it's a rag.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
I got the vibe that it was sort of like
the community paper.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's way better. When you say rags, you.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Mean like to Acquier, Yeah, inquirer. I thought it used
to be a ragmag and they now He's like, you
can do whatever you want with it. Oh true, but
he's saying, you can use the sixty grand that the
mag he said, and left in the bank and you
can make it whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I think when he said ragtag, I think he meant
like this ragtag thing like it's like it's not a
rag like, it's not like, oh, like we just saw
Johnny Depp and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Bless his heart like bluss Steve's heart because he's like,
I'm going to bring in all my friends. I'm gonna
get my Brandon's gonna do it, and David's gonna do it,
and right Don, everybody on the show is now going
to work at his new newspaper. It's so sweet and
so no, you're gonna be the fashion mash writer.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
M hm, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Imagine being twenty too and you're like, I've run a paper.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
What Yeah? And the space is very nice. I'm surprised
the Brandon went in there and was like, No, if
I were brand and I walked into that space, I
would be like totally.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
I thought that was so weird too. I'm like, uh,
this place is awesome.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
But then you kind of got to consider where brandon
headspace is right now. He just took that call from
the other job that he's got on hold and this
doesn't remember him.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Can you guys answer this? I feel like, Amy, you
will know this world ish, like would they really wait
a week? Like a paper.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Likes it for a job.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Oh, you mean like the paper went down for a week?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
They hold his job position, his job for a week.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I've never gone out for jobs like this.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
I thought that seemed totally reasonable.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Like if I offered someone a job and they were like, hey,
I've got a couple of things I got to figure out.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Can you give me a week?

Speaker 3 (21:24):
If I wanted the person, I would be like yeah, absolutely.
A week is like nothing.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh wow, okay.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
In our industry, they move on.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, you got five minutes to say yes or no yes,
and then they start you in fittings and they get
you on.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
And imagine you get offered a movie and you're like,
can you just hold that for a week?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well?

Speaker 1 (21:43):
That actually going for a job.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes, that was fine. So I'm excited to see where
the newspaper goes. Does Brandon stay involved with it because
everything is up in the air right now because of
Brandon's relationship with Kelly. Yeah, she's not going back.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's a question. Where is the metro job Portland? No, Washington?
Where's the Seattle?

Speaker 6 (22:06):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Okay, I don't know where's the what? Where where's the job?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
The metro job?

Speaker 5 (22:12):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Portant Seattle, Seattle, I could be I thought it was Seattle,
but I know he.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Can't go there. That's where Emily Valentine livesh Is that right? No?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Whatever? Weak she moved Francisco.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
To go to some aquarium. Remember she left San Francisco
to move to another country. Oh, I think she's in
like the Bahamas at an aquarium.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
I don't know when I made that up, Like Atlantis
the Mermaid that.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Who is the previous Tracy? The one you always talk
about Susan? Where does Susan live?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
She took a job. I can't keep track of all
his exes.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I just realized, did who did we bump into in Hawaii?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Tracy?

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Okay, so she just got married to somebody soups fast, Okay,
got it?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Okay, But what happened to Susan? She chose a job
over She's.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
At a job where Washington.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
I think she's working for like Obama, but not Obama
like it was like some Clinton Clinton?

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Was it Clinton? I really kind of want Brandon and
Susan to be together now all of a sudden, right
now that now that we see all the options.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Now that they've all been laid out for us.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I am literally like yelling at the TVs.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Then moved to Washington, d C. For Clinton.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I mean, wow, you are good.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
It's still you're always right except for the one time
one time you are right.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Wow. Yeah, no, you guys. I just am yelling at
the TV, like why are they doing this to Brandon Kelly?
And then she like the way she looks at him,
and it's just so sad the way he looks at her,
and so it's really sad.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
It'll be over fast.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
And then they break up. I bet because things it's
not yet. No they see together? Does she does? Does
Kelly try to go anywhere with Noah?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I want to take her date?

Speaker 5 (24:06):
I don't want to ruin it. It's like gonna happen
next week.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Okay, don't ruin it. We want to watch.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I don't want Are there any lips touching between Kelly
and Nolah?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
This is what I yes, I'm gonna go with it.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I would remember this. I do not remember you.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well, there's a reason you don't remember, So what's the reason?
Maybe no, maybe we kissed him. It wasn't. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
It's not a.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Bad episode, like it's entertaining when I watch it, but.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
It's also like it happening.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Nothing's really exciting getting me on, like looking forward to
anything other than knowing what what happens with her amnesia
and what happens maybe Steve and that girl are gonna
I don't.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Know, Kelly, Brandon, Valerie, I am show in it for
these og ish characters.

Speaker 6 (25:04):
It's just it's just the same old trope I was
usually I'm like whatever, I was, like invested.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I want to see what happened.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I think it's the amnesia because this is exacting and
it's exciting.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
It's different.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
We don't know what is going to unfold because we
don't know what she's gonna, how she's gonna come back
from this, or she's gonna want to be friends with Valerie.
But she remembers Donna, she remembers her mom, she remembers Winston.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Now she remembers a class.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Is Winston a callback? Was he there in the show before? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
I think so, yeah, I feel like we I think
so she's going to be gone like super soon?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Oh good? Yeah? Does she ever remember Brandon though? That's
my question?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Is she gonna remember him?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Like when I was feeling this is where this is headed. Correct,
it's Brandon that's going to get her out of the amnesia,
because it's all going to come coming back, come back
to her their relationship. And he's like, no, damn it,
you guys, don't make me tell you.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Don't tell us. No, we're always don't tell telling us,
but don't tell us, but just watch it. Wait, you
had a question? What was it? Oh?

Speaker 1 (26:20):
I did have a question. So I feel like, Noah's
supposed to be you know, he's he's part of the gang.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Now, No, he's not. He is not.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
I refuse allegedly, you guys, I understand this is how
it's written. But he comes in and he's like supposed
to be like there and buddy buddy with Brandon. He
knows Kelly is with Brandon. I'm telling, why does.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
He bring her all these gifts?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I feel like he's coming on to.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Her right And why is he taking her to the beach.
Brandon should be taking her to the beach. Brand's elevating
around tallis.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
I think he's just trying to be nice and gave her.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
The blood because of the blood. Oh, he gave her this,
she's his blood sister. No I know, but like he
brings her everything, says I'll come back.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Ew and he's got his hand on her back. It's
too much, too much. If I was Brandon, I'd be like,
that's off. He does. He goes to his boat. He's like, hey, buddy,
such a nice morning. He's like, if you say so,
I liked it. I like when Brandon gets all like.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Hey, it's like so weird, though, I know what Brandon
has to stop being kind of passive aggressive.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
He's a little passive, I know. But I saw him
standing up for a second with with no one.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I liked it, but a moment like don't you want
to just go and be like literally stop talking to her?

Speaker 2 (27:35):
No, let's add I don't know. It's not gonna happen
next week.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
It's like and he's just gone so soon.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
No, I think he like settled that. He Brandon's you know,
he pissed in the sand there, so he knows that
it's a is that what it's saying is no draw
line in the sand, you piss on the well.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
He doesn't know what's what her next week?

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Correct, no, stop it, you know what that smile is
just so I guess know things Miss sugar there, but
she won't say.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
That guy dates half the group.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
He is, Oh, he's in there with David. He's he's
asking for information on Valerie and then David fills him in.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
We a still found out he's wealthy and went to Harvard.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Harvard what but he just likes to clean boat? What
he went to Harvard?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
What? Like it's hard.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Parents, but his parents bottom into Harvard maybe or maybe
he's just really smart.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
No, I think he's smart. I just think he's like
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I just think they're trying so hard to make him
like wait too, Dylan like like a superstar and everyone's like,
but we just get Dylan.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Why is he asking about Valerie? Though? Is there are
they because they already hooked up? So does he want
to continue that? He's trying he's questioning that from David.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I think he kind of likes her.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
No, why is he hanging out with with Kilty all
the time? That's what I'm asking that.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Why is that happening? I get that they want her
to like supposed to like him and random, but like,
why is he doing it?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
That's what?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Because he likes Valerie?

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Listen, if I was like Amy's age when she was
watching the show, like in college, or if I was
in high school, if I was in you know, like
middle school, and this was my show back in the day,
and I waited all week for it, and I was
still invested in these bad characters.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
That would be bad all out.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
So but I would be like, oh my god, Kelly
has amnesia, uh val, and it's so exciting, Like I
want to know. Can you imagine not being able to
bene and watch forward? I mean, this is killing me
not being able to do it.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
I know I did sneak a little bit. You like,
you need to stop them.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
You need to take yourself like you were back in
the day, and maybe you'd be more excited instead of
thinking it's sharky.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yes, I would think you would be the one to
not peek.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
I mostly don't, but once in a blue moment, I'm like, hmm,
how does this?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
How does this go that next week? Wait, you're saying,
You're like, I can't dated or dirty and this isn't
going well and it's sharky, but yet you can't stop
watching it.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Well, correct, but it is shark It is sharky. Look,
I didn't think season one was that great. I think
it really hit its stride two, three, four, five, and
then it started to get a little funkier.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
No.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Season one is just for me.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
It was a little slow, a little slow. What's going
to happen? Okay, I just want to know what's happened.
I don't care about this episode. I know what's happening.
Is David going to keep the Pea Pad? Is that

(30:44):
going to come back into the Pea Pad? Is Noah
going to come in and be a partner in the
Pea Pad?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
But he already told us, she gave that away, that
Noah's going to become one of the owners.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
With all his money.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Wait, so it's going to be Noah and David.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
No, what's here till the end? Which is like crazy
to me?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh I know this?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Wait, No was there till the end?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Jennifer Eve.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Yeah, No, he's at your wedding. He's at your wedding.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, they tried real hard to make him.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I have blocked this.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
But what I'm saying is, isn't it Valerie going to
be out and Noah and David are going to control
the peepap. That's all I'm I know all of that other.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Amy Jenny don't worry, Jenny, don't worry. I did an
ex boyfriend text me something so nice? He goes, remember
blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I mean nothing nothing.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
I was like, what.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Did you think of me? Where You're like, this is
what it feels like being said Jenny's brain. I was
just like, I have.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
No memory of that, but how long did you get him?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Well? I remembered him, It's not like I know. She
just brought up like a specific thing and I was just.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Like, yeah, like I don't have any memory of that. Really,
it's the fuck with.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
You texting your ex boy friend?

Speaker 2 (32:01):
He doesn't care? Does he know your texting?

Speaker 1 (32:05):
If I had a hot body like Bross, I wouldn't
care either. I'd be like, that's a.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Whole long story. Guys, that's a whole nother story.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I have to update you on things. We're fine.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I'm not crying.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
It's all fine.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Waait what it's fine?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Talk about this. This is not the Amy Sugarman's Personal
Life podcast.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
News flash. The fans love the Amy Sugarman component.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
They want to know about your love life.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Five fans do. The rest are like shut up, and
the rest are like who the.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
F R conventions. I'm like, wait, I thought you're here
to see me Amy. Jenny knows too. They're always like,
we love Amy. Why does she say no one likes her?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
We love her. I've had to make.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Videos for you, try to get you on FaceTime with them.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I'm trying to improve my lighting so I don't look eighty,
but I still can't.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
It's like, I'm gonna have to get professional lighting in here.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Do I look less eighty? You just need a more
stronger light.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Yeah, I just don't have any light. I'm using like
like a flashlight.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
You're using like a lamp with the shade taken off
of it.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
But I'm going to get a new room next in January,
in twenty twenty six, I'm gona have a different place.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Oh good, more of a professional now that you're a
professional podcast, now.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
That I'm becoming so famous, and he no, what do
we have next week?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
You guys? This episode was clearly like.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Your amnesia starts to fade next week?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Okay, good, but I don't know. This episode felt good
to me, like maybe a six six and I can
give it like a seven. Yeah, Why why are you?
Sopha clemped at my sixth.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Because I feel like you've given higher. It's way worse.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Probably I'm not very consistent in nature, It's true.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, we're kind of haphazard about our reviews and ratings.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Well, you know what, it's instinctual. People. We just watched it.
I just watched it ten ten minute before we started
the podcast. Same, and I don't know how I feel.
I feel as if I'm watching a show and I
don't know what's about to happen, and that really doesn't
make me feel good, like I I have too many questions.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
That's great, it's a conversation. Start.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
I need some comfort. I need I don't know. You're
missing person is in the pitch pit. That's a waitress. Now,
where'd she come from? This guy in these tight polos
with the tent, the tan and the brooding polos.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
It's just that photo you're looking at with his shirt off.
You're just constantly looking at it. And where did we
even get that photo? It's so ram Why do we
have pictures of him?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
He's a solo.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I told you guys, I have a photo album. Speaking
of photo albums, like Valve brings you, I don't even
do photo albums. But I have one from the Hawaii trip.
I have that photo.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
Can you please bring that.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
An It's kind of like I feel like I gave
them my thros to copy because their photo of is
it Steve and Noah on the beach.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
There's I don't want to see this photo album. I
want you to burn it. What well, I wasn't there.
I don't have any memory.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
I love that you were fake there though. That's like
the best part.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
It's just like it doesn't count you guys, I wasn't
There're so fake there. That's the moment in my life
things fractured. I had to leave behind the life that
I knew as a care free cast member on our
show and become a mother and not do the things
that were fun anymore. I just stay home and make
the milk.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's totally profound.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
It is oh my gosh, I have to go to therapy.
Bye you guys.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Emotionally things completely changed for you. That was the moment.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, it was very splitting. I remember feeling very isolated.
Talked about it with Gabrielle too. When she had her
baby on the show, which was even before before she left.
She had a baby on the show and she had
that same feeling of like I don't fit in here
these we don't have the same interests or any commonalities.

(36:04):
I was able to continue my relationships with the cast
and have a separately. You know, the baby was in
the baby trailer and I would go to her most
of the time, but I felt like I still tried
to be a cast member and connect cast member.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
You were more than that, you know, but like friend,
you were still a sister.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Like things changed so much when you have your first baby.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Though, you know, I understand, and I feel like, and
I'm sure you went over this with God, because I
know they guys just had an interview. But I feel
like we were too young in going through it that
when she went through it, we didn't understand.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
No, we didn't. We didn't even have a clue interesting
what she was going through or what she was dealing with.
Like we were so caught up in ourselves. Yes, that's interesting,
and isn't that crazy? That kind of if you if
you don't have a child, like if you don't have
a kid and you continue on that path of solo,

(37:01):
like I mean for me personally, if I hadn't had
a child, I don't know where I would have ended
up like and on a personal level because I was
able to like stop being so brought up and me
and all the things of you know, I don't know

(37:21):
what to think back the Holly Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Would But I feel on the flip side, we were
all somewhat at that age that when you had Luca,
we were all like the fun aunts and uncles.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, but it's still like you could take it to
leave it right. Well, at the end of the day,
you had to do right.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
But it was still I feel like we were old
enough to really well I was, I don't know, I
was excited like that she was there.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I don't know how I think twenty three so you
were really young. You were really really young. Yeah wow.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah's true. Felt isolated and had to go through.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
That only I remember. Also just like the milking of
the boobs was like I don't know, just the.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
I don't remember this one time.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
She there with you?

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Was she there with you?

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Awesome?

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, baby, yeah. Uca was every day the month after.
What did they build for her? Like a I bought
my own trailer for her, and I customized it inside
so I took out the bed and it had like
a baby's room in the back, and my nanny Nina
would come with me every morning. It's you know how

(38:35):
it works, can get it? Yeah, five, come at five am.
We'll leave by five thirty. We'll get to work. Settle
you by six am. Oh yes, she's Nina's my best friend.
She's raised my way. That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
And when I see her, she goes, I'm old. Now geez,
she loves you.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Oh my god. Well it was a trip, definitely.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
The thing they put up when Luca was maybe a
little bit older.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, well, she got like she needed to play and run.
Now it's filthy. Where we shot that show in Van Eysed, California,
in like a back, dirty danky lot, and so they
built like a yard off of the front. I remember
they built stairs, like these beautiful stairs that went into
the baby trailer, and then we put AstroTurf down and

(39:23):
put a picket fence around it. So she had like
a little yard. And it was so hot back there
because it was like an asphalt jungle. They put misters
on my little awning so she wouldn't get overheat on
her little plastic slide out there. I thought she loved it.
I think that's one of the reasons. She's such a
like just open to anybody. And you know when kids

(39:45):
have that kind of exposure to all different kinds of
people and people coming and going all the time.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
She was totally socialized. That's green. Yeah, that's true. It
does make a difference, definitely.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
AnyWho, that baby's in the back parking lot this part.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I those were good memories. Those are happy memories.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Behind the scenes. I'm giving a toen.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Okay, I'm giving the episode an eight.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's very high. But jeedger, listen, she can get whatever
she wants. What do we have next week? Coming Home? Okay,
that's what an exciting title.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
It's a nail nail it on the head.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, next episode, you guys, Season eight, episode five, coming Home,
you gotta watch it so you know what.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Happened home with them.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
She won't tell us. I'm not going to do the
podcast next week. I'm just going to watch it and
then you find out.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
I mean, it's very you'll find out.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
So good
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