June 14, 2021 • 71 mins
David Silver's Dad joins Tori and Jennie.
Matthew Laurance, Dr. Mel Silver, is sharing all the great 90210 stories and memories.
Find out the beautiful location of the cabin in this episode. (heheheh wink wink)
Plus, We solve the mystery of "The Slap"!
And now, we have a new mystery to discuss...THE SPIDER!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys,
welcome to another riveting episode of nine oh to one.
O MG, I'm Tori Spelling with the amazing Jenny Garth
and Sisseny Hi ladies. Hi, I thought we were only
(00:23):
using first names. Oh that's right, rewind Hi, I'm Tori.
This is Jenny and of course Siseny. Hi. Everybody. Hi,
how's this week going? It's going. Don't sound so excited, jeez,
I know, don't you guys agree? Mama's like when you
(00:45):
have kids, it's just there's no weekends. It's just there's
I don't know, it just happens. There's holidays. We mark
things by holidays, birthdays, things like that. Well, speaking of
birth days, Stella had a birthday. Oh my goodness, daughter
(01:06):
turned what thirteen? Fourteen thirteen? And this is yeah, this
is what you warned me about. You said, just wait,
just wait till they become teenagers. And I think you
met girls because you've got girls, and yeah, I don't
really know anything about boys. It's happening. It's happening. Oh,
(01:26):
send her to me, Send her to me. Oh, she
wouldn't like that, she because because from afar. She thinks
you're just the best, and I'm not, like, Aunt Jenny's
the best. But imagine a week in your house. I
remember when we were shooting our movie, our movie, our
show in Canada and one time you had me take
(01:49):
Stella home early, and like we had dinner together and
hung out and watched a show together. She she was
she didn't really know what to do with me. She
was like kind of scared and kind of defiant at
the same time, kind of like I'll do whatever I want.
You're not the boss of me. But she liked me too.
(02:12):
She loves you. Do you remember when Liam and Stella
were younger and you had them over for a sleepover? No,
I don't remember that. What happened the house? Okay? What
house you u? I don't know what house you were in?
How old house from Uh? It was when we were
(02:34):
doing Mystery Girls and Liam and Stella wanted to sleep
over with Fiona. They were young. It was like what
six years ago, um, and you had them all over
and you gave them their first turkey dog because we're
meat eaters and you gave him then and they don't
need healthy so they probably were like, what are you guy,
(02:55):
and you're like a turkey. Dogs they had and somehow
Liam got his foot closed in the Remember in the
trams in the pool couch was the trampline, same spring.
Why didn't take in the in the trampoline springs? Yeah, okay,
(03:16):
that's it. That was so I did good job. I
did it. I was great with them. They had the
best time, and then you were like you had the
worst sleep. You got to set really tired because you
were like, I knew like all night, I was just like,
I'm so I feel responsible for her kids, and I
just like all night I kept like waking up like
are they okay? And you kept checking on him. That's
(03:36):
why I love you. Yeah, we should have another sleepover.
Would be a little different now than they're teenagers, though,
Oh my goodness. They would just wanna game and play
on their phones and was it happy right? Net you
have a party? Would you guys? Do nothing yet? Because
I was working so I wasn't with her during the day.
(03:56):
We went for sushi at night. But she wants she's
up sessed, Okay, you guys, So she's obsessed with Harry
Potter and um, do you know who Tom Felton is?
Oh really, he's already have this conversation. He's malfolly. We
didn't have this. Oh my god, we totally talked about
(04:19):
on the podcast of the podcast. Yeah, I remember, and
I remember not really knowing right now that I remember
something and you don't. Oh my god, you guys. Thirty
years later, she wins. She wins the prize of finally
remembering something first before me. Character. Yeah, so anyway, wait,
(04:39):
we have this conversation. What did I say, Because she's
obsessed with us, with him, and that you were going
to get her cameo. My life, Sorry, my life. I
can't believe. Yeah, but I can't because it's six hundred
dollars Tom Felton's charging for for a second Cameo And
(04:59):
I understand he's a big, big star. But that's good.
I go on Instagram and try d ming him and
see if you can work out a deal. You guys,
I'm pathetic. I contacted Cameo and they were like, well
paying his because he's the European team, well paying them
(05:20):
the international team. No response to the ping, and then
I don't know, it's like the new version of slide
into my DM, like now just it's like ping mead
of hit me. It's paying me now, it's maybe just
on the app baby one more time? So I can't
keep up from the cameo. You only paying someone on
(05:42):
a cameo? Oh no, I think it's other things, right, Sis,
Like I don't know. You can don't ping on Instagram.
Not a lady lady on the golf course say I'll
ping you. And I was like, oh with the No,
it's it's different platforms. I can't keep up. But yeah,
so I d m him, I painted him. I've done
everything except like flash my boobies and pray that he'll
(06:05):
like that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what
to do. I'm very I'm very sad about it. Just
get her some get her. Oh my daughter was in
Harry Potter for a second, like a year ago and
into him really and she has a Oh we should
(06:28):
do this. One of her friends had a blanket made
for her with his face on it. Oh yeah, that's
a good one. And you know where the blankets are
made with faces because you've done it. Okay, I'm gonna
ask you after Yeah, but we're going to Universal Studios
to Harry Potter World next week. Anyway, Tom fellon, just
(06:53):
got way too much airtime. Let's move on. She tested
him so mad stick center dollars. Well that is a lot. Well,
let's talk about the episode, shall we Shall we just
get right into it for a minute, because I do
it's exciting things in store a little bit later. But
we are moving on to episode seven of season two,
(07:14):
Camping Trip, air date August nine. Synopsis. The gang decides
to take an end of the summer trip to Yosemite,
but an unexpected downpour of rain strands them next to
a couple of Newlywoods who seemed to be going through
a storm themselves. Directed by Jeffrey Melman, written by the
(07:38):
lovely Karen Rosen and Darren Starr, starring us the whole cast.
Could you imagine if we read all the names of
all the actors in the show, we would really as
Brandon Walsh, let's read the list of all of our
(07:58):
fellow castmates who have not come on our podcast, starting
with Jason Priestley, followed by Shannon Doherty, Iron's earring, Luke Perry, obviously,
Brian Austin Green, Carol Potter. Oh no, she was right,
we haven't had that cose either. We have to have
your crush, your man crush. I can't wait to see him.
(08:21):
Oh my gosh, we gotta do that sooner than later.
Just as a gift to you and Gab. Obviously we
skipped Gab Gab because she's been on and I remember
Gab who said last week the slap was real. We
buried that headline from episode six. How did this come about? You?
(08:45):
Texted her? She confirmed what happened. As she confirmed, she
said it was real and she learned a lot on
that show because what she thought, she said, she went
into it thinking like, you know, it's not real, or
you disc us it, but there was no discussion, and
then it happened and it was very real and very
hard and she learned a lot on that show. And
(09:08):
then I said, oh, can you tell more? And she said,
not on the podcast, but I'll tell you in Jen
in real life. I cannot believe it wasn't discussed and
it was shocking. Yeah. Oh, and a fan reminded us
that you had a slap on the show, Vanessa, Marcel
(09:31):
slapped you in a later episode. Do you remember. We
haven't gotten to that episode. I haven't watched it. I
have no I know, it's just we're talking about slaps. Yeah,
you'd think I remember something like that. Maybe when you
see it it will jog your memory. And I wonder
if you guys discussed it. I hope so, I hope
(09:53):
it comes back to me, the slap. This episode starts
out with I love the whole casual friendship vibe that
is like brewing at the Walsh at Castle Walsh before
we all depart on our Yosemite adventure. Everybody seems so
happy and excited and and it's so cute how you're
(10:15):
overpacked and Steve's busting you. He's like he's like travel
Nazi with a poofy hair do, Like he's really his
hair was higher than I've ever seen it in this
episode and shocking that I was overpacked because I don't
do that in real life, right, BFF doing funny, not
(10:39):
at all. I don't know how you actually get your
suitcases zipped closed. I don't know how that ever happens.
It takes more work to to zip my suitcases than
it does for me to get into my three pairs
of spinks daily, Like literally, it's so I'm sweating afterwards,
I'm sitting on it. I have my kids sit on it.
(10:59):
It's heart and he yanks out the shoulder pads of
all things. Those are you like, you need shoulder pads
at Yosemite? And I'm like, shoulder pad before b b J, Yes,
b b J O instead of p b J B
b J. You're not a sandwich people. No. Yeah. So
(11:27):
they they hit the road and they sing their songs
and it's so cute and I'm really glad that Dylan
goes along with them on the me too. Then they
get to the cabin. The cabin, so you know, they
were like, we don't have it in the budget to
film it Yosemite, so we're gonna stick them in a
(11:48):
cabin and we're gonna make it work. There's a reason
there's a rain storm. And then we're going to film
it on a set. Okay, so they built do you
remember did they build those cabin sets on our stages?
They did. They did, And for some reason, I just
remember I can picture right now. It was really hot
in that cabin and we were supposed to be really cold.
(12:11):
It was so hot and we were all in there
for we filmed those scenes like an entire day. That
was maybe the least fun ever. Was that really it
looked fun. I know, I wanted to be well. They
were all kind of turning on each other at one point.
It was like or the flies for a minute, like,
m hmm, it happens after a long drive. Yeah, cranky.
(12:35):
They were a little soggy. They didn't have any good snacks. No,
alcohol doesn't sound fun. Um And he was super afraid
of the spider and she was really cute about that. Yeah,
it was interesting that Brenda just went into action. None
of the boys offered to help. It was Brenda who
went to kill the spider. You know, she she was
(12:57):
giving off some some mom vibes like Red Potter ribes
take care of things this episode, she was mom, and
you're right, but you know what what I saw the
boom three times and I felt like I was I
was catching a prize instantly. Everybody always right in and
(13:24):
tell me because it's my obsession. Now three times obsession,
I never I don't care. Machine. Yes, it was in
the vending machine. And then it was in one of
the cabin scenes with the couple just dipping right in there.
They were standing in front of the fireplace, Brenda and Dylan,
I think, and the and the couple was they were
talking to the couple. Okay, so if you guys see this,
(13:48):
you can't tell me in editing when they watched this
so many times that they don't see it. Is it
like we can't go back and reshoot that would cost
too much? Or or what what do you think it is?
I must see it? Mean I don't you know, because
when you're moving so fast on a show, you're you're
only printing sometimes one take, sometimes two takes, right, and
(14:12):
maybe they don't have another shot that it's not in
or that now you can now you have like programs
on your computers that you could zoom the image in
and essentially crop it out of the scene if you
needed to. But did you have that type of stuff
back in the nineties. That's expensive though, right shot by
shot to do that. And and for the record, if
(14:34):
you're listening, if you're listening, if you're happy to be
listening to this, print, tell them Print means that you
got the take, you're happy with the take, you're moving on.
Can you stop waving your I knew you're about to
say that, you know what, you're pointing your nails at us.
They're good, right, they're very I don't but not too fancy,
(14:59):
but super and they look dangerous. Yeah any sorry, try
to get contacts on with these, just try thinking other things.
That's all right, Um, but the husband and wife duo,
we're super cute the newlyweds. But I thought it was
(15:20):
a little creepy when when um Brandon and Andrea were
sitting in there talking to them, and all of a sudden,
he gets on top of her on the couch and
like starts basically, yeah, why why was that in there
just to like throw some Laundrea Brandon like could have
(15:41):
been us. I didn't get that vibe at all. I
thought Andrea was cute, though she looked like she needed
like some popcorn. She wanted to watch the show. They
came in to look for extra firewood, and they they're
on their honeymoon. They go, we're about to make a toast.
Why don't you join us? YEA awkward because they're nice.
(16:04):
That's that's what nice people do. They're all inclusive. Would
you do that? Yeah, because I would feel the pressure too,
But I'd be like, here's your wood by yeah, Harne.
Moon we didn't talk to another person for one week,
like we literally just people the restaurant. Yeah, but if
I mean, they're all kind of they're on my first honeymoon.
(16:27):
I just remember on my first honeymoon, I did make
a friend in the pool, and and they're still they're
still a friend. Really, I'm not still married to that man.
I'm still with a friend. What Wait, where'd you go
for your first honeymoon? I don't remember Hawaii, Maui, somewhere.
(16:47):
I don't remember which island, but I remember meeting a
guy in the pool. Well, you've been a guy to
do I know this friend? I don't know. He lives
in slow in sam Luisibispo. His name's Chris of mckiern
in law. Maybe anybody needs a lawyer? We was was
Dan pissed that you were talking to a guy? What? No,
(17:10):
he was like, hey, what's up here? What are you talking? Okay,
so this is yeah, right up your alley. Then first
I thought he was hitting on me, but then it
was like he just want to be friends with all
of us, like we just we just and it It It
actually improved our honeymoon. We had a better time because
we made friends. You should have known that was the problem, flag,
(17:35):
But you knew that before you married him. Oh my goodness. Well,
we have a special guest coming on pretty soon. Can
I just tell you what one more part of the
episode that I'm trying. Yes, Okay, So I'm watching it
and my husband comes on from work last night at eleven,
and it's the scene with um when Brandon and Dylan
(17:57):
decided to go on a hike. Oh yeah, and he
was like, wait, what's going on? Is this the prequel
to Broke Back Mountain? I don't understand what's happening, like
he was. So he was like, what is about to happen?
He didn't understand it all. And I said, no, they're
just they're going on a friend hike up to the
top of the mountain. But anyway, I I just needed
to talk a little bit about the stunt doubles and
(18:19):
the and the hanging off the cliff part. Yeah, he
was hanging for a long time, and like he was
really strong, like with that one hand he pulled himself
right up. It was still suspenseful for me as a fan.
Like watching it again, I'm just like I remember as
(18:40):
a teen watching I watched this episode and watching it,
I was just like I was so excited like that
that friendship. I was just like, yes, really, yeah, Well
they were so just like a big deal. They're just
so handsome and they look so perfect in every shot
that I think he got a little weird about that.
(19:01):
He thought this is getting weird. But I this, the
stunt doubles made me laugh so hard that there their
little wigs, and I did not notice the stunt double.
You didn't notice this, So I was wondering, like, if
you don't know that there's a stunt double, then you
just don't notice. No, I didn't Well, I didn't know
and I didn't notice. It didn't even cross my mind.
(19:24):
Why would they new stunt double? It was just I
imagine it wasn't real, like real real Cliff. There was
a couple of shots really definitely stunt doubles, like looking
Dad looking up at the mountain and seeing him hanging there.
That was stunt double. Really yeah, but I really thought
it was crazy when when Dylan was trying to help him,
(19:46):
but he kept knocking off those big rocks right onto
his head. That's not helpful. Oh my gosh. This was
the first time we ever did and I'm not sure
how we did it because we didn't really have cell
phones back then with cameras. This is the first time
(20:09):
that uh it was always I in the organized It
showed us how to do this shot where we put
a camera on the bottom and we all stand and
look down at it in a group. Do you remember
those shots we used to do pictures. I didn't know
that we would never do that now with that angle.
Oh yeah, too old. Maybe overhead we can all look
(20:33):
up at it. That would be better now, Yeah, you're right. Yeah,
Ian used to be like guys, guys watched this and
put on self It was like a camera on self
timer and then yeah, we would all like link arms
in the circle and all look down and have a
shot in this the first time on the camping trip
that we actually didn't remind you of that when we're
in the in the huddle at the end, I did
(20:56):
that was good good memories. Uh yeah, it's being a
good time. So let's let's let the good times role
syste Yeah, we need to take a break. But when
we come back, we have Mel Silver Matthew Lawrence who
plays Mel David's father, So we actually reached out to
(21:20):
him and we emailed him to come on. Actually we'll
redo the email when we come back because it's pretty
like pretty direct. Um, we'll come back with Matthew Lawrence.
M okay, so this Nick, tell us about the email
(21:43):
that you got from. So we emailed Matthew Lawrence to
come onto the podcast and this was his response. Hi,
dot dot dot, I would love to dot dot dot.
I'll change a couple of things. Dot dot dot anything
to see those two dot dot dot. Thank and then
all new lines. By the way, you know what, dot
(22:04):
dot I'm already. We love this man so much. You
have no idea. All ten years he was the highlights,
Like when he would be on set, we would be
so happy. Well, let's bring him in. He's in the radio.
Let's not keep him waiting. Matthew, look at you, Look
(22:25):
at me. Don't look at me, look at you. Two
we want to look at you. No, no, no, no, no.
Where are you, Matthew? What are you doing? I am
in Lexington, Kentucky. Um, and I am for twelve years
now I am on ESPN Radio here in Lexington. Wow,
(22:52):
I'm a big radio guy now because I have I
have a face for radio. So you know that's what
it is, a great voice. Oh, my husband's going to
be so excited. Then, I'm sure he listens to ESPN
Radio constantly. Yeah he does, but not mine your big
(23:12):
sports guy my entire life, I didn't know that. Oh yeah,
I played for sports, had basketball scholarship offers, all that stuff,
and I've been very involved in sports my whole life. Wow,
we probably never talked about that. That wasn't That wasn't
our common like thread. No, nobody, nobody ever asked me
(23:38):
the entire time I was on the show about me.
All you guys cared about was you. That's all you
cared about. Nobody, what do you? What do you like?
We thought you liked what we liked. What do you
mean us in? Though I did well Man before we were,
(24:04):
before you were mel Silver, you were on You've done
a lot on a lot of other shows SNL do
it lots of things over the course of your career,
And we were just talking off air about that. You
have a twin brother, yes, who was also an actor. Yeah.
He made for a really interesting part of our lives. Um,
(24:26):
not only a twin but identical twin. So the first
few years when we got out of college, I immediately
went to acting school and he didn't. He there was
nothing about him being an actor, And for five years
or so he was the associate producer on Saturday Night Live,
(24:48):
the original Saturday Night Live. He did all kinds of
stuff and then when their cast left, they all left.
He went to l A and out of nowhere. I
got a phone call one day and said I'm coming
to New York. I need to talk to you. And
I said okay. And he came and sat down with
(25:09):
me and said, I'm going to be an actor. And
I went, excuse me what? And he um, He said
it was something he had always wanted to do, but
because I was doing it, he didn't and it was
time to live his own life and all that crap
that brothers say to you. You know, I didn't pay
attention anyway. Um, but we went through a period, uh
(25:34):
of almost five years where we didn't talk to each
other pretty much. Well, I think it brought up a
lot of things about while we were growing up, also
jealous ease and all kinds. But I mean, think about it.
When you're in a business based on how you look,
and you have somebody that looks exactly like you competing
(25:56):
for jobs, it doesn't make for a really happy time,
you know, Like you would be up for the same parts,
like would you bump into him at And it only happened.
It only happened a few times. And I think it's
because our agents tried to keep away we were up
for the same parts, we didn't. They often scheduled us
(26:18):
at different times. Um. But he was on a very
successful show called Not Necessarily the News on HBO for
I think six years and we both auditioned the same
day at the same time for that. Wait, so did
he audition for for Mel the part of Mel? No? No,
(26:38):
no no. By that time, I was a much bigger
star than he was. And but you know, ever, wait,
is he gonna see this? Um? Uh no, he didn't.
And do you want me to tell you about Mel? Now? Yeah?
Tell us about Wait? Wait, I I have one question.
Did he get stopped? He must have once you became
(27:00):
famous as Melf Mel Silver. I know you already were,
but as Mel, Like, did he get stopped? And people
are like, oh my god, is David Silver's dad? Well,
you know what, it's it's really interesting. It's it's great
that you asked that, Tori, because the worst part of
it all was when he was on Not Necessarily the news.
(27:21):
I still was. I wasn't working. I didn't have a
regular job like he did, and people knew him, and
people would come up to me all the time and say,
I love not necessarily the news, and I would go,
that's not me, it's my brother. And when I was
on say Duet for three years on Fox, people would
(27:45):
come up to him and go, Duets my favorite show.
And the first time it would happen ten times in
a night if you were out, and the first time
you just say, that's not me, it's my brother. And
by the tenth time you're yelling at the purse. I mean,
you're you get it, You're angry. But and that happened
(28:05):
a lot for a long time, and it was it
was really hard. It was really hard for both of us.
And just to wrap this us up, you'll love this.
At the time he was living, there was a very
famous director named Brian Gibson who directed Poltergeist and a
whole bunch of things, and Brian lived in a mansion
(28:27):
up in the hills, and Mitchell lived in Brian's house.
He had his own wing of this castle he lived
in and um Mitchell called me one day and he
said we were at that point we were kind of
cordial to each other, but still not friendlier. And and
he called me and said, I have to come over.
I need to talk to you. And he came over
(28:48):
to my house. And it turns out that Brian was
a very spiritual guy. He was into He was a Buddhist,
he was into chanting and psychics and all kinds of uh.
He had a best friend in Florida that was a psychic,
this woman and he Mitchell, my brother, went out to
dinner with Brian and this woman, and she didn't know
(29:11):
anything about Mitchell. Brian hadn't told her anything. She said
to Mitchell after about two minutes, You're a twin, aren't you.
And Mitchell said, yeah, I am. And she said to him,
don't you know you will never get anywhere in life
by wishing bad things on your brother. And he said
(29:35):
that to me, And we stood for hours in my
kitchen crying and laughing and talking. And from that day
on we decided we were going to work together, we
were going to be and he's been my absolute best
friend in the world. This is a long time ago, um,
(29:57):
and it's been great up doing all kinds of things
together and it's been amazing. Oh that's beautiful, but you
still didn't answer. Did he get recognized as Mels Silver?
Yes he did, Yes, I'm sorry, Yes, yeah he did,
and he still does. Actually, that's funny. And he lives
(30:18):
in Conway, South Carolina, near Myrtle Beach and it still
happens to him. And I still every once in a
while and get somebody that comes up to me in
the grocery store and go, are you the guy that
was not necessarily didn't news. I would just say oh,
thank you, yeah, and just call it a day. You know.
That's I never thought of that tour. That's that's what
(30:40):
I should have done. Yes, that's what I should. So
I was telling them before the show, when we were
super excited that you were coming on. I was like,
you know what you guys, he was on. He was
in a movie that is so iconic and I couldn't
remember what it was. And Jem was like with Michael Parrey, Parrey,
(31:02):
I always say his name, run Michael h Streets of
Fire and I was like, no, no, no, it's something else.
It was seen almost fire, Yes, And I never got
the chance to talk to you about it because it
wasn't until later when I watched it again with my kids,
I was like, this is a movie from my generation.
And I was like, oh my god, Matthew, that's it.
And I couldn't remember at the time. Yeah, well, Michael Parade.
(31:25):
The movie I was in with Michael was Eddie and
the Cruisers, which is also it's like the biggest cult
movie ever. But saying almost Fire was a really amazing
experience because now again it's the same thing with me
and this just hit me. You guys to the success
of nine O two one oh and all of you
(31:47):
and the success of the Brat Pack with all of
them from saying almost Fire has to be because of me.
You just he's the rink. Just hit me. I'm like
the older actor guy who I don't know maybe mentored
all of you. I don't know what degrees from Matthew Lawrence.
(32:13):
But working on that film was incredible and um, I
played to me Moore's gay next door neighbor and worked
with Joel Schumacher, who was one of the iconic directors
of all times. Um just an incredible person and to
this day, Uh, Andrew McCarthy is one of my best friends.
(32:39):
I just did a big, huge He came out with
a book that he wrote called Bratt that is a
huge deal right now. Amazing incredible book about his life.
And he's a great writer. And I just did a
virtual book sale thing with him. We met on st
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almost fire and to this day we're still He's one
of my absolute best friends. And I have, you know,
just talking about this stuff. I have been so blessed
in my life with the people that I have met,
Like I actually I can't believe I'm sitting talking to
the two of you, because you two are two of
my have always been two of my favorite people in
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the world. And um, I'm a sap. I'm gonna'll tear
up with much food commercials and I tear up, um.
But like looking at your face, Jen and your face story,
it does something to me that I'm just incredibly grateful,
incredibly grateful. Oh, we feel the same way about you
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to our I don't know if you remember this, but
this is an example of if I can tell this
short story real quickly. When I was doing the show,
probably the third or fourth year, I was sharing a
house with some friends of mine on Mulholland Drive up
in the hills and for the summer they swift swapped
(34:15):
houses with a family from Edinburgh, scott and this family
came over and they had a sixteen year old daughter.
And I went out in the driveway when they pulled
up to meet them, and this sixteen year old girl
couldn't breathe when she saw that I was living at
this house because nine o two one oh was you
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know what? It was all over the world. And about
a week later I said to her, tomorrow morning, meet
me at my car eight o'clock. You're coming to the
set with me. I'm gonna take you to work. And
I brought her in and we went into the makeup trailer.
She couldn't she was having panic attack. She was so
(35:02):
she couldn't believe she was there. I mean, think about
a sixteen year old from Edinburgh. And we went into
the makeup trailer and you were in there, and I
introduced her and I told you, and I think Brian
might have been in there, that she was from Edinburgh, Scotland,
and she was visiting the house and you said you
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were finished with makeup. You said, okay, we'll see you later,
and you took her by the hand and disappeared with
her and took her to all the sets and took
had people take pictures with her in the peach pit
and in different places. It was one of the most
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amazing days of her life. I mean, I haven't seen
her since that summer, but I know she will never
forget that, and I never forgot that about you. Um anyway,
all right, she's a good egg, that Tori. Well, we
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wanted to just ask you, you know, like questions about
Mel and your time on the show. And yeah, obviously
we all formed really strong bond with you. I think Tori, myself,
Brian and of course Anna who played Jackie worked with
you the most. Um, But we just wanted to ask you, like,
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what did you did you how did you come about
getting the role of Mel, and how did you like
the character? You know. The funny part is at that time,
this is how the actual call went. And I just
as I just saw both of you with Larry and
Chuck and Peter on their wonderful thing that they're doing. Um,
(36:53):
I think Chuck corrected me. I got a call from
my agent and he said, they want to talk to
you about uh playing a father on nine or two
one off And at that time this was during the
first I think at the beginning of the second year maybe,
And at that time the show was not very popular.
(37:15):
As you remember, there were a lot of people didn't
have Fox in their houses. And I had never really
seen the show. And I said to my agent, I
don't think I want to do that. It's a show
about some high school kids or something. I don't I
don't think I want to. And he said, you've never
(37:35):
played a father before. It would be really good for you.
Just go talk to them. And I went in and
I sat down and I met with them, and I
didn't even know whose father I was going to play.
And when they asked, they said, Brian Austin Green. I
think Brian was maybe eighteen at the time, or nine,
(37:58):
maybe eighteen maybe four four years or five years before that,
I had done. Do you remember a show called Circus
of the Stars I had done. She was on it.
I had done that show the year that Brian was on.
What was your act? I walked the high wire? Did
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you wear tights? Of course? Uh? And can we see
a picture? Not I'll send you pictures. Not only tights,
but a big frilly shirt that was opened down to here.
And I was I was very funny. Actually, okay, anyway,
I got very friendly with Brian. He was a little
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kid who was like thirteen or something. He was on
not landing, I believe, and with his mom, and we
were hearsed for weeks for that thing. Anyway, when they
told me it was to play Brian's father, I said absolutely.
I thought it would be one a couple of episodes
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or one episode. What I found out from Chuck or
Larry was it was kind of an audition that first
episode to see how Anna and I got along. I mean,
the way your character was introduced was so great. We
just watched that episode recently and were sitting behind her
and she I love this so much. And You're like,
(39:28):
it sounds like you need a dentist or something, and
there you were, Oh my lord, Mr cheeseball. I was.
But that started. You know that that one or two
shows turned into nine years years. Um. I still can't
(39:49):
believe it. And like I say, all the it's part
of the of some of the greatest memories I have
of my life. And I got a lot of great ones.
I've done a lot of really razing things. But as
I said that, I'm sitting here talking to you two
is it's amazing to me. Amazing and that show. I mean,
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as you know, maybe four years in I'm a big
history buff. I got a chance to work in Germany
and I went over to what was used to be
East Berlin and there was it's called the Brandenburg Gate.
Napoleon's armies marched underneath this thing. I couldn't wait to
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see it, and I went took a cab, went by
myself and I'm standing there looking at this massive thing.
And a bus of tourists pulls up, Swedish tourists in Berlin, Germany,
about thirty of them, and they get off this bus
and they start walking towards this thing, and one of
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them turns and sees me and goes Beverly Hills and
the whole book comes running over. They could have cared
less where they were, sweetest tourist, Blynn. That's you know.
You stand there and you guys know this better than anybody,
but you stand there and you just go the power
(41:16):
of TV and the reach of all this stuff is.
And you know from how people talk about the influence
you guys had on their lives growing up. Um, it's
pretty amazing. It's really really amazing. It's something, isn't it. Yep,
something to be proud of. You should you should be
so proud because your character was so memorable and we
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you made such a lasting impression on each of us
as just people on the show. We all everyone loves you. Yeah, well,
do you know? I get? I still get how could
you do that? Would you do? Oh? I got all
you drunk? Don't you? I mean on the show. It
(42:04):
wasn't your fault. It was like half a glass, like
it was a toast. What Donna Martin? Thank you? And
what I say to these idiots that say that to
me is, first of all, I'm an actor. They give
you a script and you do what they tell you.
That's first number two. I didn't get them drunk. We
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made a toast. I left, Steve came running back in
and grabbed the champagne and disappeared. It wasn't even real champagne.
It's a thirty years later, however long it is, I
still have to explain to people like it wasn't well,
you could flip it. You could say if it wasn't
(42:45):
for me, there would be no Donna Martin. Graduate It's like, hello,
there you go I think that I still get yelled
at too, because you know, I had an affair with
somebody when I had a three month old daughter or
whatever that. You know, Mike, excuse me, Hello, I'm an actor,
wasn't me? Okay? If you weren't an actor, what what
(43:07):
would you do? What? What? What would you have been
if you were an actor? What have you been in sports? What?
A good question probably would have been something to do
with sports. Absolutely. I mean sports has been the biggest
the way I got here. And I don't know if
you know who this is, but when I left l
(43:27):
a UM I just couldn't take living in l a anymore.
And uh I played in all these celebrity golf tournaments
over the years. And in the early nineties I met
coach Ka, who was the basketball coach at Duke and
he's a very big deal and he was then too,
(43:50):
and I was having dinner with he and his wife
in at a golf tournament and I told him I
wanted to leave l A. I was done, and he said, well,
why don't you come work with me? And I said,
what he said, just come to Durham, North Carolina. I
have an idea. So I sold all my stuff, drove
to Durham with my mom. She flew out to l
(44:13):
A and he told me he wanted me to do
radio for the Duke basketball team. So for ten years
that's what I did. I sat right behind coach k
and for ten years did radio for the Duke basketball team.
That sounds like so much fun. It was incredible, incredible.
(44:33):
And then I got married. Uh, we had a young
two young sons, and my wife was from here, from Kentucky,
from Lexington, and I was playing in the golf tournament
here and the guy that owns all these radio stations
here offered me a job with the ESPN Radio. So
(44:54):
we moved here mostly because my wife and my boys. Right,
That's how I got here. So sport it is the
answer to that question. How old are your kids now?
Oh my lord, Uh, I'm really old. You were not.
Excuse me, I am really old old. Thank you. Jenny
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always told me the truth. I have a seventeen and
a fourteen year old, that's nothing. I got a twenty
three year old, Matthew. Excuse me, I'm seventy one. Jen,
I know you're not what stop it? Yeah? What you
just blew my mind? Don't compare me with you, Jen
(45:41):
with your children. Okay, wow, you are you are old?
What the hell? You look great? You look great for
seventy one. Wait, I gotta go backwards. I forgot to.
I gotta ask just one question about Saturday Night Live.
(46:02):
I I just want to know what that experience was like, Like,
that's like one of my dreams. Like, can you just
tell me what it was like to be on SNL. Well,
it was. It was different than almost anybody else that
has done it because our year, which was one, was
the first year of the new cast. It was when
(46:24):
everybody left and we were the next People hated us,
I mean, and so the whole experience was very different
culturally from the way the show was run to everything
about it. But for me personally, where do you get
(46:44):
the experience of even though not as many people watched,
millions of people and you're doing live TV every week. Um,
the three or four of the people on the show
at the time, I absolutely loved. We were very close.
Um and the musical guests that we had. That was
(47:05):
the best part of the show to me. Every Friday
when they would do they would come out and do
voice checks. Aretha Franklin James Brown, Prince, Uh, Debbie Harry
would stand there nobody in the studio, and and then
when of course, when they were you know, doing their thing,
(47:28):
Prince came out. Nobody knew who he was, and he
came out and did the weirdest song. He was humping
the stage he was at I mean, and nobody knew
who he was, and we were all I can Eddie
Murphy was on with with me that year. All I
can remember is Eddie that laugh that Eddie has, just hysterical.
(47:50):
And then you know, when all of a sudden Prince hit,
we went, wait, that's that guy that was on the show.
Here I and I have I have wonderful men. Reason
like I said, of the people just like you guys,
it's so much about the people that you work with,
as you know, I mean, um, it was an amazing experience,
(48:11):
but it was weird. That year was definitely weird. You
have the greatest stories. First of all, Oh, you have
no idea, You have no idea. I could spend hours
just listening to your stories. And you know what, Jen
and I have talked about this so many times, but
(48:31):
it is one thing that we we regret. But when
you're young. It is yourself involved, You're it's about you
and what's going on. But if we we've this is
numerous times this has happened. We wish we could go
back and do a do over and have gotten to
know people on a different level. We've talked about that
with Carol Potter and because it's like we didn't know
(48:54):
and I'm sorry that we didn't ask you about you
because listen to the stories you have. We would have
been so blessed to hear these stories. Then, yes, but
then I could have nearly as many stories as I
do now. First, I always say this about You're You
said that, so I'll say this about you. I always
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talk about this because people ask me about you guys
a lot. They always haven't, they always will. You grew
up in a situation that nobody in the world grows
up in and for you back then, It's why I
love the story about what you did with that little
girl when she came. For you to be the person
(49:39):
that you are is the most incredible thing in the world.
It's not easy, what what all of you went through.
I mean, nobody realizes to what it's like to be
the most famous people when you're that young. You don't
even know who you are. Yeah, and everybody has these
(50:03):
feelings about you and thoughts about you and criticisms about you.
It's an almost impossible situation. And this is what I
mean for me to look at the two of you.
I just spoke to Brian for the first time twenty
five years. We talked for sorry a half hour. It
(50:26):
was what he's turned out to be after everything he's
been through. And you, guys, people have no idea how
amazing it is. They have no idea. Um You're such
a blessing, both of you to so many people, so
many thank you. You wish we could hug you right now.
(50:51):
Boy do I wish that. I'm going to come out
to l A this summer. Can we see you? I
I promptly we will get together and we'll have dinner.
I'll tell you a bunch more stories that I can't
talk about. Good. Look at that face on gin. We
(51:15):
we we before we end with you, we want to play.
We do these rapid fire questions with what we do
with that, because I know you'll be a hoot. Many
sisany sisney is gonna give it to you. Be sure
I've got them here. Okay, So favorite character on then
Antino besides mal Silver. You know what, no one ever
(51:39):
said themselves, Yeah yeah, hell yeah, alright, favorite cast member. Oh,
I can't answer that. You can't do that, all right?
If you take the girls out, the least favorite cast member,
I'm just I'm just I'm just missing. I almost that almost.
(52:00):
I'm doubt that's for when we get together. And okay,
I would say, Brian, if I take the two of
them out, I would say, okay, Now, if you had
a favorite no to a NO couple out of all
the couples that were more throughout the whole seasons, which
one would be your favorite? Me and Jackie there you
(52:20):
get nice before I had the affair with the dental,
got it, it happens. Now this is gonna be tough
for you. But if you had to kiss Mary or
kicked the curb one of the characters, who would it be?
So you kiss a character, you marry a character, and
then one of them you just throw away basically, Okay,
(52:44):
I'm going to be real honest here. I would kiss Tiffany. Okay,
I like it. She's very kissable. I get it. I've
done it, all right. Who would you marry Oh god,
(53:09):
I uh see, I can't say this. If we lived
in Utah, I would marry those two perfect that your
aunt's sister lives and me siver new show. Okay, we
got a show here. This is good, and I imagine
you probably don't want to kick anybody to the curb.
(53:29):
But if you had to know, all right, we will
make you towards you. Okay. Interesting he went with the
real life actors, not the not the characters. I did that.
Neverbody crossed my mind. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, oh the
characters easy? That. No, they're not easy. I still want
(53:52):
to go with the real people. Well, you're you're the
real deal, that's for sure. No, did you ever get
to keep anything from the show wardrobe or prop anything?
I didn't. I didn't keep any props. I don't know
what what kind of props my dental drill. This is
(54:16):
a funny story that I told Larry and Chuck too
real quick. We got a script one time and it
said mel is doing root canal on a patient in
his office. And I said, I can't remember who wrote it.
I said, have you ever had root canal? Do you
know what's involved in a root canal? I can't fake that.
(54:37):
They said, Okay, well, what should you do? I said,
give me one of those little mirror things, you know
that you look in somebody's mouth. How about I'm doing
that in this scene. You don't know how to get
a root canal? What's wrong with you? No? I know,
I should. I had plenty of them. I should know
how to do. I didn't get to keep any props.
(54:57):
I think I kept some of the wardrobe because my
wardrobe was pretty nice, except for the wedding pictures that
I keep seeing. People keep watching the show and they
text me with a picture of what they just saw
our marriage, that tuxedo thing that I was wearing for
the wedding. Of course, it was a long time ago,
(55:19):
but remember that my clothes, for the most part, were
pretty cool. I'm sure I stole I mean, I'm sure
they gave me some of them. Some of them. You
taught us all the tricks. Wait. Were you on the
new nine O two one? Oh? Okay, No, which I'd
(55:41):
always thought was kind of weird because you and Jackie
created and one of the main characters Silver It was
Aaron Silver. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. And you know what,
I'm glad, I really am. I really don't. I want
to be associated with our show. That's all the O.
G Yeah, loyalty is there. So Matthew, we love you
(56:07):
talking to you. I love you guys more. Um, I
really mean it. This has been a really tough year
obviously for everybody. Yeah, and it's things like this that
I can't tell you how this makes me feel inside,
just to not only talk to you, but to look
at your two faces. So thank you for thinking of
(56:30):
me than hugs. We always think about you, and we
love you, and we'll see you this summer. Okay, love you,
love you too. Oh oh my god. That just made
me so emotional. I love that man so much. He
was so good to me on that show, gud. There
(56:52):
were days, because you know, we went through stuff off
camera that was hard, and there were days that he
was just so kind and made me laugh and hugging
me and just he's always so warm and a good
person could just take a bad mood and make it better. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
it's one of the good ones. I can't wait to
(57:12):
get drunk with him this summer and hear some juicy stories.
It's so good baby. We'll let you guys know what happens.
We'll let you get a tissue tory and we'll take
a break and we will come right back. Okay, so
(57:40):
let's get into fashion deus and don't who liked what,
who hated what? Tell me? Tell me this is a
little bit of a fashion less episode, right, Well, it's
it's just a theme. Everybody's kind of got that can't
be theme. So there was no there were no like
fashion standout moments. I just appreciated all of the campaign.
(58:06):
Dylan and a jean jacket with a white T shirt
is just so classic perfect, that's it. Yeah, Yeah, and
that's It's like when I saw that, Yeah, when I
saw that scene of him, I was like that that
works now, like it worked then works out and it
was him and that was just like that's how you
always remember Dylan McKay that white T shirt and jean
(58:28):
jacket and his hair was just on point, Like both
Brandon and Dylan's hair were like the best they've ever been.
I think this is when they were like really realized
it's all about her hair. I know that scene of
them before they went hiking. I was just going back
and forth, like looking at both of them and just
their sideburns. Did you guys ever noticed Tory? I want
(58:50):
to ask you this Luke has a scar and his
eyebrow in his right eyebrow, I think, And do you
remember it becoming more prominent through the run of the show,
like early on it wasn't as prominent. I feel like
you're right for the makeup lady. Think her name was Alex,
(59:11):
Yeah was, And I can't even remember her cutting the
hairs to like accentuate the scar. Smart. Yeah, I don't
know whose idea that was. But do you remember why
he had that scar? I don't. I don't remember why.
M Yeah, you're right, You're right, that's a smart move.
(59:35):
That's like iconically part of him, So why not enhanceome
watching it? It was the first time we wore what
were those boots like Doc Martin's were obviously Timberland's, Thank you,
the Timberland's with the slouch socks. Yes, making you don't
you have to have those? Oh you have to. Yeah,
(01:00:00):
it also if you're not going hiking. They were a
fashion statement. Now now you can wear them with them
just about anything. Yeah, do you think I've ever hiked?
Like I wore them all the time. You're not a
big hiker, you know the answer to this. She's trying
to rile me up. We should go hiking sometime, like
(01:00:22):
never yeah. Uh. Lines from the show nine to two one, No,
you didn't. I kind of said mine. Earlier it was
the Newlyweds that said, do you want to come in
for a toast? I like Dylan's line, my mom says,
my planetary alignement is in severe disarray, which was setting
the stage for his mom, who was Stephanie Beacham so
(01:00:43):
iconic and um, okay, say my own. You know what
they say, it takes two to tango, tangle tangle. You
said takes two to tangle, right, I miss obviously in
Donna true Donna form said the wrong line because like
it is a term like it takes two to tangle. Sorry,
(01:01:04):
it takes two to tangle. Whatever I am, Donna Martin,
It's okay, I still can't get it right. You know
what it means? You know what they say, it takes
two to tangle. All right. We have a few listener questions.
Listens from Christine. I've heard that sometimes in the entertainment
world you are surrounded by yes people. Have either of
(01:01:24):
you experienced this and did you know they would do
whatever you asked? Does this cause problems in other relationships
in real life? Did any of your other castmates have
yes people? And did they use this to their benefit? Oh,
they want you to call some people out as well.
A lot of questions on that one question. There's a
lot of questions in these questions. I've noticed that they
(01:01:47):
get they packed them there. Yeah, definitely, I think actors,
that's what happens. And especially when you're young, at least
from my perspective, and Jen, I know you feel the
same way, Like you know, there you don't know that
they're doing whatever you want. You think it's like, oh,
(01:02:08):
I have all these new friends and they always just
want to do what I want to do and we
just get along so well, it's like we want the
same thing. And it's not until you look back on
the situation you're like, oh, but the yes people it's
not always to your advantage because usually the yes people
are also the clingers there, you know. Yeah, not only that,
but like it sets you up for failure later in
(01:02:31):
your life because reality check, there's not a lot of
yes people out there, you know, and and as you
as I've grown up and and like experience different things.
I kind of expect people to go along with whatever
I want, but that's not necessarily what they want, and
so it kind of sets you up to be like
(01:02:53):
to have a harsh reality check later in life, because
the people around you that truly love you are not
going to be yes people. They're going to be honest people.
That's true. And also it's those yes people that are
also We've talked about this before. When you're out and
having fun, you're like, Oh, they like to eat what
I like to eat. They like to go to places
(01:03:14):
I like to go. They're also the first to go
to the bathroom or like go about to get their
cars when the track comes, Like there's a reason you
just can't believe that you're paying for it. Oh well,
Mitchell is asking. You said your personal lives changed because
of your nine o two celebrity status, but what about
your professional ones, Like were there people around you who
(01:03:37):
really came through or let you fall hard when you
didn't expect them to, And what about career choices during
and right after the original run? Would you choose to
go in the same direction now or would you change
things up? Are we sure it's Mitchell. What if it's
Michelle or I thought it was Michelle, but there was
no e at the end, so Michel, it's mckel. Well,
(01:04:01):
m this is for you. I mean, it's so hard
to go back and say I wish things had gone
differently or what would I have done if it was different?
But I feel like, I mean, our paths just sort
of presented themselves before us, and you sort of take
advantage of what comes your way and make your decisions
(01:04:24):
based on what's kind of what are your options right
in front of you? And I mean I know that
right after the original run of the ten years of
the show, when we did our finale, it took a
minute for me to get my feet back under me
and decide what I wanted to do next, Like what
(01:04:46):
what do you do after that? And and who's going
to hire you to play a different role because everybody
identifies you with what you've just played for ten years
on the super popular show. So it was about sort
of waiting for the right thing to them along for
me and being sort of selective. And I kind of
like that now, Like I don't like to work, like
(01:05:06):
it takes a lot of incentive to get me to
leave my house to go work. I love what I do.
I love acting, and I love like telling stories and
helping and like giving people emotional journeys like I love that,
but I hate to leave my house. So how old
were your girls when the show rapped? I think I
(01:05:29):
had one? Yeah, I definitely only you only had one? Okay,
she was still little? One or two probably, And did
it ever cross your mind and just like I just
want to maybe be a mom for a few years,
or or did you want to jump right back into
something that's the only thing I knew how to do? So,
like I had to pay the bills, Like, you know,
I had created all through this ten years a lifestyle
(01:05:53):
that's certainly something that I had come from. It's something
that was created by this show and and the industry,
and so I had to keep up the lifestyle, you know,
and and pay for the house and pay for the
cars and pay for the kid, you know, all the
things you have to do when when when your life
starts to roll like that? So then yeah, you just
(01:06:15):
want to work when the show ended. For me, I
really wanted to do comedy. That was my thing because
that was like Donna's thing. You know everyone you know,
Jen was so I mean she's hilarious, Like obviously, now
she's just amazing comedy. At the time, you were known
for being like chromatic actress. Yes, and I never felt
(01:06:37):
like I could find my thing and and that was
my Niche was like the comedic moments. And when the
show ended, um, I did a deal with Fox to
develop my own sitcom and I was super excited and
it was the first time it was in front of
a live audience, and um it was the creator that
went on to create Family Guy. Like it was like
(01:06:59):
a big deal. And I was like, oh, all I
knew was a successful TV show, right and went on
for ten years? Did the pilot. I was like, oh cool,
now I'm gonna be on a sick I'm a sitcom attress, actress,
I'm gonna be funny, and it's gonna go on for
ten years. And it didn't get picked up. So that
was like a harsh reality because it was like you're
on such a high and you're like, it's just gonna
(01:07:20):
go right into something else successful and that didn't get
picked up. And then after that it was like back
to auditioning. It was like whoa reality check? You know,
you can go from a hit show and then have
nothing and have to you've climbed that mountain and just
you have to start all over again. That was a
big deal, but it helped turn me into what I think.
(01:07:40):
I'm a hustler. Like I was just like, Okay, let's okay,
here I go. I'm back out auditioning every week and
just let's do it. I wish that I had had
sort of more of a plan, like your question would
would would you change things up? Would you go in
the same direction? Now? I wish that I had some
sort of a plan, you know, like a business plan
(01:08:02):
of how I wanted to run my corporation, like like
created more things off of the buzz and the hype
of what I was and like you're you're not necessarily,
but just like I wish I knew what I wanted
to do, Like I never even wanted to be an actress,
Like I didn't know I wanted to be a nine
or two one. Oh, I didn't know I wanted to
(01:08:22):
be a mom my. My life is just sort of
always unfolded in front of me and I kind of
go with it. But I wish if I could go
back that I was like the person that said, I'm
going to go to business school, I'm gonna learn to
do this. I'm going to create my own company. I'm
gonna have a fortune situation. I'm gonna have a yacht.
Like I wish I had a plan for my career.
(01:08:44):
I still can. Do you feel like anyone on nine
oh two and I had that plan, like a plan
in place of what was next and like mapped it
out strategically. I mean, I think if if anyone had
those conceptions, I don't know if they played out the
way they wanted them to, because I think after the after,
after any show ends, an actor has that natural time
(01:09:08):
where they have to kind of reinvent themselves or you know,
take a breath and and and change gears a little bit.
I think all of us kind of experienced that in
our own way. It's it is interesting though we were
so young, but like now, like if Jan and I
suddenly had like a nine two oh right now, we
(01:09:31):
would know to be like, Okay, what's the big picture,
what's the merch s? You know, what are the would
be rolland hell yeah, we would like own private island
now two and openating suits. We would be we would
have our own airplane or something. Yeah, we would. We
would have our faces wrapped on everything. But there was
(01:09:55):
all this like no No two and no merch back
in the day, even during the show. Did you guys
get to cut it now? Oh my gosh, it was
all your faces that angers me. It should like we said,
we would do it all very yeah. Yeah, the contract
negotiations would have taken longer for that reason. Oh my goodness. Well,
(01:10:18):
this is a jam pack show, you guys. This is
a good episode. It's fun. That was what's next? What's
our next episode? Wild fire? You that sounds dangerous? Is
there fire involved it? Wild? No? I just remember the title. Well,
(01:10:41):
I'm excited to watch it. I hope you guys are too.
I hope you liked our chat with Matthew Lawrence did.
We sure had a good time. Amazing. He's very sweet.
He loves you girls so much. Lots of love. There's
so much love on our show with all that, all
the moving parts, a lot of love, crew cat used everybody.
(01:11:02):
So we're really happy to be here with you guys
every week. And uh, I guess we'll see you next week.
You guys. Bye. H
It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys,
welcome to another riveting episode of nine oh to one.
O MG, I'm Tori Spelling with the amazing Jenny Garth
and Sisseny Hi ladies. Hi, I thought we were only
(00:23):
using first names. Oh that's right, rewind Hi, I'm Tori.
This is Jenny and of course Siseny. Hi. Everybody. Hi,
how's this week going? It's going. Don't sound so excited, jeez,
I know, don't you guys agree? Mama's like when you
(00:45):
have kids, it's just there's no weekends. It's just there's
I don't know, it just happens. There's holidays. We mark
things by holidays, birthdays, things like that. Well, speaking of
birth days, Stella had a birthday. Oh my goodness, daughter
(01:06):
turned what thirteen? Fourteen thirteen? And this is yeah, this
is what you warned me about. You said, just wait,
just wait till they become teenagers. And I think you
met girls because you've got girls, and yeah, I don't
really know anything about boys. It's happening. It's happening. Oh,
(01:26):
send her to me, Send her to me. Oh, she
wouldn't like that, she because because from afar. She thinks
you're just the best, and I'm not, like, Aunt Jenny's
the best. But imagine a week in your house. I
remember when we were shooting our movie, our movie, our
show in Canada and one time you had me take
(01:49):
Stella home early, and like we had dinner together and
hung out and watched a show together. She she was
she didn't really know what to do with me. She
was like kind of scared and kind of defiant at
the same time, kind of like I'll do whatever I want.
You're not the boss of me. But she liked me too.
(02:12):
She loves you. Do you remember when Liam and Stella
were younger and you had them over for a sleepover? No,
I don't remember that. What happened the house? Okay? What
house you u? I don't know what house you were in?
How old house from Uh? It was when we were
(02:34):
doing Mystery Girls and Liam and Stella wanted to sleep
over with Fiona. They were young. It was like what
six years ago, um, and you had them all over
and you gave them their first turkey dog because we're
meat eaters and you gave him then and they don't
need healthy so they probably were like, what are you guy,
(02:55):
and you're like a turkey. Dogs they had and somehow
Liam got his foot closed in the Remember in the
trams in the pool couch was the trampline, same spring.
Why didn't take in the in the trampoline springs? Yeah, okay,
(03:16):
that's it. That was so I did good job. I
did it. I was great with them. They had the
best time, and then you were like you had the
worst sleep. You got to set really tired because you
were like, I knew like all night, I was just like,
I'm so I feel responsible for her kids, and I
just like all night I kept like waking up like
are they okay? And you kept checking on him. That's
(03:36):
why I love you. Yeah, we should have another sleepover.
Would be a little different now than they're teenagers, though,
Oh my goodness. They would just wanna game and play
on their phones and was it happy right? Net you
have a party? Would you guys? Do nothing yet? Because
I was working so I wasn't with her during the day.
(03:56):
We went for sushi at night. But she wants she's
up sessed, Okay, you guys, So she's obsessed with Harry
Potter and um, do you know who Tom Felton is?
Oh really, he's already have this conversation. He's malfolly. We
didn't have this. Oh my god, we totally talked about
(04:19):
on the podcast of the podcast. Yeah, I remember, and
I remember not really knowing right now that I remember
something and you don't. Oh my god, you guys. Thirty
years later, she wins. She wins the prize of finally
remembering something first before me. Character. Yeah, so anyway, wait,
(04:39):
we have this conversation. What did I say, Because she's
obsessed with us, with him, and that you were going
to get her cameo. My life, Sorry, my life. I
can't believe. Yeah, but I can't because it's six hundred
dollars Tom Felton's charging for for a second Cameo And
(04:59):
I understand he's a big, big star. But that's good.
I go on Instagram and try d ming him and
see if you can work out a deal. You guys,
I'm pathetic. I contacted Cameo and they were like, well
paying his because he's the European team, well paying them
(05:20):
the international team. No response to the ping, and then
I don't know, it's like the new version of slide
into my DM, like now just it's like ping mead
of hit me. It's paying me now, it's maybe just
on the app baby one more time? So I can't
keep up from the cameo. You only paying someone on
(05:42):
a cameo? Oh no, I think it's other things, right, Sis,
Like I don't know. You can don't ping on Instagram.
Not a lady lady on the golf course say I'll
ping you. And I was like, oh with the No,
it's it's different platforms. I can't keep up. But yeah,
so I d m him, I painted him. I've done
everything except like flash my boobies and pray that he'll
(06:05):
like that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what
to do. I'm very I'm very sad about it. Just
get her some get her. Oh my daughter was in
Harry Potter for a second, like a year ago and
into him really and she has a Oh we should
(06:28):
do this. One of her friends had a blanket made
for her with his face on it. Oh yeah, that's
a good one. And you know where the blankets are
made with faces because you've done it. Okay, I'm gonna
ask you after Yeah, but we're going to Universal Studios
to Harry Potter World next week. Anyway, Tom fellon, just
(06:53):
got way too much airtime. Let's move on. She tested
him so mad stick center dollars. Well that is a lot. Well,
let's talk about the episode, shall we Shall we just
get right into it for a minute, because I do
it's exciting things in store a little bit later. But
we are moving on to episode seven of season two,
(07:14):
Camping Trip, air date August nine. Synopsis. The gang decides
to take an end of the summer trip to Yosemite,
but an unexpected downpour of rain strands them next to
a couple of Newlywoods who seemed to be going through
a storm themselves. Directed by Jeffrey Melman, written by the
(07:38):
lovely Karen Rosen and Darren Starr, starring us the whole cast.
Could you imagine if we read all the names of
all the actors in the show, we would really as
Brandon Walsh, let's read the list of all of our
(07:58):
fellow castmates who have not come on our podcast, starting
with Jason Priestley, followed by Shannon Doherty, Iron's earring, Luke Perry, obviously,
Brian Austin Green, Carol Potter. Oh no, she was right,
we haven't had that cose either. We have to have
your crush, your man crush. I can't wait to see him.
(08:21):
Oh my gosh, we gotta do that sooner than later.
Just as a gift to you and Gab. Obviously we
skipped Gab Gab because she's been on and I remember
Gab who said last week the slap was real. We
buried that headline from episode six. How did this come about? You?
(08:45):
Texted her? She confirmed what happened. As she confirmed, she
said it was real and she learned a lot on
that show because what she thought, she said, she went
into it thinking like, you know, it's not real, or
you disc us it, but there was no discussion, and
then it happened and it was very real and very
hard and she learned a lot on that show. And
(09:08):
then I said, oh, can you tell more? And she said,
not on the podcast, but I'll tell you in Jen
in real life. I cannot believe it wasn't discussed and
it was shocking. Yeah. Oh, and a fan reminded us
that you had a slap on the show, Vanessa, Marcel
(09:31):
slapped you in a later episode. Do you remember. We
haven't gotten to that episode. I haven't watched it. I
have no I know, it's just we're talking about slaps. Yeah,
you'd think I remember something like that. Maybe when you
see it it will jog your memory. And I wonder
if you guys discussed it. I hope so, I hope
(09:53):
it comes back to me, the slap. This episode starts
out with I love the whole casual friendship vibe that
is like brewing at the Walsh at Castle Walsh before
we all depart on our Yosemite adventure. Everybody seems so
happy and excited and and it's so cute how you're
(10:15):
overpacked and Steve's busting you. He's like he's like travel
Nazi with a poofy hair do, Like he's really his
hair was higher than I've ever seen it in this
episode and shocking that I was overpacked because I don't
do that in real life, right, BFF doing funny, not
(10:39):
at all. I don't know how you actually get your
suitcases zipped closed. I don't know how that ever happens.
It takes more work to to zip my suitcases than
it does for me to get into my three pairs
of spinks daily, Like literally, it's so I'm sweating afterwards,
I'm sitting on it. I have my kids sit on it.
(10:59):
It's heart and he yanks out the shoulder pads of
all things. Those are you like, you need shoulder pads
at Yosemite? And I'm like, shoulder pad before b b J, Yes,
b b J O instead of p b J B
b J. You're not a sandwich people. No. Yeah. So
(11:27):
they they hit the road and they sing their songs
and it's so cute and I'm really glad that Dylan
goes along with them on the me too. Then they
get to the cabin. The cabin, so you know, they
were like, we don't have it in the budget to
film it Yosemite, so we're gonna stick them in a
(11:48):
cabin and we're gonna make it work. There's a reason
there's a rain storm. And then we're going to film
it on a set. Okay, so they built do you
remember did they build those cabin sets on our stages?
They did. They did, And for some reason, I just
remember I can picture right now. It was really hot
in that cabin and we were supposed to be really cold.
(12:11):
It was so hot and we were all in there
for we filmed those scenes like an entire day. That
was maybe the least fun ever. Was that really it
looked fun. I know, I wanted to be well. They
were all kind of turning on each other at one point.
It was like or the flies for a minute, like,
m hmm, it happens after a long drive. Yeah, cranky.
(12:35):
They were a little soggy. They didn't have any good snacks. No,
alcohol doesn't sound fun. Um And he was super afraid
of the spider and she was really cute about that. Yeah,
it was interesting that Brenda just went into action. None
of the boys offered to help. It was Brenda who
went to kill the spider. You know, she she was
(12:57):
giving off some some mom vibes like Red Potter ribes
take care of things this episode, she was mom, and
you're right, but you know what what I saw the
boom three times and I felt like I was I
was catching a prize instantly. Everybody always right in and
(13:24):
tell me because it's my obsession. Now three times obsession,
I never I don't care. Machine. Yes, it was in
the vending machine. And then it was in one of
the cabin scenes with the couple just dipping right in there.
They were standing in front of the fireplace, Brenda and Dylan,
I think, and the and the couple was they were
talking to the couple. Okay, so if you guys see this,
(13:48):
you can't tell me in editing when they watched this
so many times that they don't see it. Is it
like we can't go back and reshoot that would cost
too much? Or or what what do you think it is?
I must see it? Mean I don't you know, because
when you're moving so fast on a show, you're you're
only printing sometimes one take, sometimes two takes, right, and
(14:12):
maybe they don't have another shot that it's not in
or that now you can now you have like programs
on your computers that you could zoom the image in
and essentially crop it out of the scene if you
needed to. But did you have that type of stuff
back in the nineties. That's expensive though, right shot by
shot to do that. And and for the record, if
(14:34):
you're listening, if you're listening, if you're happy to be
listening to this, print, tell them Print means that you
got the take, you're happy with the take, you're moving on.
Can you stop waving your I knew you're about to
say that, you know what, you're pointing your nails at us.
They're good, right, they're very I don't but not too fancy,
(14:59):
but super and they look dangerous. Yeah any sorry, try
to get contacts on with these, just try thinking other things.
That's all right, Um, but the husband and wife duo,
we're super cute the newlyweds. But I thought it was
(15:20):
a little creepy when when um Brandon and Andrea were
sitting in there talking to them, and all of a sudden,
he gets on top of her on the couch and
like starts basically, yeah, why why was that in there
just to like throw some Laundrea Brandon like could have
(15:41):
been us. I didn't get that vibe at all. I
thought Andrea was cute, though she looked like she needed
like some popcorn. She wanted to watch the show. They
came in to look for extra firewood, and they they're
on their honeymoon. They go, we're about to make a toast.
Why don't you join us? YEA awkward because they're nice.
(16:04):
That's that's what nice people do. They're all inclusive. Would
you do that? Yeah, because I would feel the pressure too,
But I'd be like, here's your wood by yeah, Harne.
Moon we didn't talk to another person for one week,
like we literally just people the restaurant. Yeah, but if
I mean, they're all kind of they're on my first honeymoon.
(16:27):
I just remember on my first honeymoon, I did make
a friend in the pool, and and they're still they're
still a friend. Really, I'm not still married to that man.
I'm still with a friend. What Wait, where'd you go
for your first honeymoon? I don't remember Hawaii, Maui, somewhere.
(16:47):
I don't remember which island, but I remember meeting a
guy in the pool. Well, you've been a guy to
do I know this friend? I don't know. He lives
in slow in sam Luisibispo. His name's Chris of mckiern
in law. Maybe anybody needs a lawyer? We was was
Dan pissed that you were talking to a guy? What? No,
(17:10):
he was like, hey, what's up here? What are you talking? Okay,
so this is yeah, right up your alley. Then first
I thought he was hitting on me, but then it
was like he just want to be friends with all
of us, like we just we just and it It It
actually improved our honeymoon. We had a better time because
we made friends. You should have known that was the problem, flag,
(17:35):
But you knew that before you married him. Oh my goodness. Well,
we have a special guest coming on pretty soon. Can
I just tell you what one more part of the
episode that I'm trying. Yes, Okay, So I'm watching it
and my husband comes on from work last night at eleven,
and it's the scene with um when Brandon and Dylan
(17:57):
decided to go on a hike. Oh yeah, and he
was like, wait, what's going on? Is this the prequel
to Broke Back Mountain? I don't understand what's happening, like
he was. So he was like, what is about to happen?
He didn't understand it all. And I said, no, they're
just they're going on a friend hike up to the
top of the mountain. But anyway, I I just needed
to talk a little bit about the stunt doubles and
(18:19):
the and the hanging off the cliff part. Yeah, he
was hanging for a long time, and like he was
really strong, like with that one hand he pulled himself
right up. It was still suspenseful for me as a fan.
Like watching it again, I'm just like I remember as
(18:40):
a teen watching I watched this episode and watching it,
I was just like I was so excited like that
that friendship. I was just like, yes, really, yeah, Well
they were so just like a big deal. They're just
so handsome and they look so perfect in every shot
that I think he got a little weird about that.
(19:01):
He thought this is getting weird. But I this, the
stunt doubles made me laugh so hard that there their
little wigs, and I did not notice the stunt double.
You didn't notice this, So I was wondering, like, if
you don't know that there's a stunt double, then you
just don't notice. No, I didn't Well, I didn't know
and I didn't notice. It didn't even cross my mind.
(19:24):
Why would they new stunt double? It was just I
imagine it wasn't real, like real real Cliff. There was
a couple of shots really definitely stunt doubles, like looking
Dad looking up at the mountain and seeing him hanging there.
That was stunt double. Really yeah, but I really thought
it was crazy when when Dylan was trying to help him,
(19:46):
but he kept knocking off those big rocks right onto
his head. That's not helpful. Oh my gosh. This was
the first time we ever did and I'm not sure
how we did it because we didn't really have cell
phones back then with cameras. This is the first time
(20:09):
that uh it was always I in the organized It
showed us how to do this shot where we put
a camera on the bottom and we all stand and
look down at it in a group. Do you remember
those shots we used to do pictures. I didn't know
that we would never do that now with that angle.
Oh yeah, too old. Maybe overhead we can all look
(20:33):
up at it. That would be better now, Yeah, you're right. Yeah,
Ian used to be like guys, guys watched this and
put on self It was like a camera on self
timer and then yeah, we would all like link arms
in the circle and all look down and have a
shot in this the first time on the camping trip
that we actually didn't remind you of that when we're
in the in the huddle at the end, I did
(20:56):
that was good good memories. Uh yeah, it's being a
good time. So let's let's let the good times role
syste Yeah, we need to take a break. But when
we come back, we have Mel Silver Matthew Lawrence who
plays Mel David's father, So we actually reached out to
(21:20):
him and we emailed him to come on. Actually we'll
redo the email when we come back because it's pretty
like pretty direct. Um, we'll come back with Matthew Lawrence.
M okay, so this Nick, tell us about the email
(21:43):
that you got from. So we emailed Matthew Lawrence to
come onto the podcast and this was his response. Hi,
dot dot dot, I would love to dot dot dot.
I'll change a couple of things. Dot dot dot anything
to see those two dot dot dot. Thank and then
all new lines. By the way, you know what, dot
(22:04):
dot I'm already. We love this man so much. You
have no idea. All ten years he was the highlights,
Like when he would be on set, we would be
so happy. Well, let's bring him in. He's in the radio.
Let's not keep him waiting. Matthew, look at you, Look
(22:25):
at me. Don't look at me, look at you. Two
we want to look at you. No, no, no, no, no.
Where are you, Matthew? What are you doing? I am
in Lexington, Kentucky. Um, and I am for twelve years
now I am on ESPN Radio here in Lexington. Wow,
(22:52):
I'm a big radio guy now because I have I
have a face for radio. So you know that's what
it is, a great voice. Oh, my husband's going to
be so excited. Then, I'm sure he listens to ESPN
Radio constantly. Yeah he does, but not mine your big
(23:12):
sports guy my entire life, I didn't know that. Oh yeah,
I played for sports, had basketball scholarship offers, all that stuff,
and I've been very involved in sports my whole life. Wow,
we probably never talked about that. That wasn't That wasn't
our common like thread. No, nobody, nobody ever asked me
(23:38):
the entire time I was on the show about me.
All you guys cared about was you. That's all you
cared about. Nobody, what do you? What do you like?
We thought you liked what we liked. What do you
mean us in? Though I did well Man before we were,
(24:04):
before you were mel Silver, you were on You've done
a lot on a lot of other shows SNL do
it lots of things over the course of your career,
And we were just talking off air about that. You
have a twin brother, yes, who was also an actor. Yeah.
He made for a really interesting part of our lives. Um,
(24:26):
not only a twin but identical twin. So the first
few years when we got out of college, I immediately
went to acting school and he didn't. He there was
nothing about him being an actor, And for five years
or so he was the associate producer on Saturday Night Live,
(24:48):
the original Saturday Night Live. He did all kinds of
stuff and then when their cast left, they all left.
He went to l A and out of nowhere. I
got a phone call one day and said I'm coming
to New York. I need to talk to you. And
I said okay. And he came and sat down with
(25:09):
me and said, I'm going to be an actor. And
I went, excuse me what? And he um, He said
it was something he had always wanted to do, but
because I was doing it, he didn't and it was
time to live his own life and all that crap
that brothers say to you. You know, I didn't pay
attention anyway. Um, but we went through a period, uh
(25:34):
of almost five years where we didn't talk to each
other pretty much. Well, I think it brought up a
lot of things about while we were growing up, also
jealous ease and all kinds. But I mean, think about it.
When you're in a business based on how you look,
and you have somebody that looks exactly like you competing
(25:56):
for jobs, it doesn't make for a really happy time,
you know, Like you would be up for the same parts,
like would you bump into him at And it only happened.
It only happened a few times. And I think it's
because our agents tried to keep away we were up
for the same parts, we didn't. They often scheduled us
(26:18):
at different times. Um. But he was on a very
successful show called Not Necessarily the News on HBO for
I think six years and we both auditioned the same
day at the same time for that. Wait, so did
he audition for for Mel the part of Mel? No? No,
(26:38):
no no. By that time, I was a much bigger
star than he was. And but you know, ever, wait,
is he gonna see this? Um? Uh no, he didn't.
And do you want me to tell you about Mel? Now? Yeah?
Tell us about Wait? Wait, I I have one question.
Did he get stopped? He must have once you became
(27:00):
famous as Melf Mel Silver. I know you already were,
but as Mel, Like, did he get stopped? And people
are like, oh my god, is David Silver's dad? Well,
you know what, it's it's really interesting. It's it's great
that you asked that, Tori, because the worst part of
it all was when he was on Not Necessarily the news.
(27:21):
I still was. I wasn't working. I didn't have a
regular job like he did, and people knew him, and
people would come up to me all the time and say,
I love not necessarily the news, and I would go,
that's not me, it's my brother. And when I was
on say Duet for three years on Fox, people would
(27:45):
come up to him and go, Duets my favorite show.
And the first time it would happen ten times in
a night if you were out, and the first time
you just say, that's not me, it's my brother. And
by the tenth time you're yelling at the purse. I mean,
you're you get it, You're angry. But and that happened
(28:05):
a lot for a long time, and it was it
was really hard. It was really hard for both of us.
And just to wrap this us up, you'll love this.
At the time he was living, there was a very
famous director named Brian Gibson who directed Poltergeist and a
whole bunch of things, and Brian lived in a mansion
(28:27):
up in the hills, and Mitchell lived in Brian's house.
He had his own wing of this castle he lived
in and um Mitchell called me one day and he
said we were at that point we were kind of
cordial to each other, but still not friendlier. And and
he called me and said, I have to come over.
I need to talk to you. And he came over
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to my house. And it turns out that Brian was
a very spiritual guy. He was into He was a Buddhist,
he was into chanting and psychics and all kinds of uh.
He had a best friend in Florida that was a psychic,
this woman and he Mitchell, my brother, went out to
dinner with Brian and this woman, and she didn't know
(29:11):
anything about Mitchell. Brian hadn't told her anything. She said
to Mitchell after about two minutes, You're a twin, aren't you.
And Mitchell said, yeah, I am. And she said to him,
don't you know you will never get anywhere in life
by wishing bad things on your brother. And he said
(29:35):
that to me, And we stood for hours in my
kitchen crying and laughing and talking. And from that day
on we decided we were going to work together, we
were going to be and he's been my absolute best
friend in the world. This is a long time ago, um,
(29:57):
and it's been great up doing all kinds of things
together and it's been amazing. Oh that's beautiful, but you
still didn't answer. Did he get recognized as Mels Silver?
Yes he did, Yes, I'm sorry, Yes, yeah he did,
and he still does. Actually, that's funny. And he lives
(30:18):
in Conway, South Carolina, near Myrtle Beach and it still
happens to him. And I still every once in a
while and get somebody that comes up to me in
the grocery store and go, are you the guy that
was not necessarily didn't news. I would just say oh,
thank you, yeah, and just call it a day. You know.
That's I never thought of that tour. That's that's what
(30:40):
I should have done. Yes, that's what I should. So
I was telling them before the show, when we were
super excited that you were coming on. I was like,
you know what you guys, he was on. He was
in a movie that is so iconic and I couldn't
remember what it was. And Jem was like with Michael Parrey, Parrey,
(31:02):
I always say his name, run Michael h Streets of
Fire and I was like, no, no, no, it's something else.
It was seen almost fire, Yes, And I never got
the chance to talk to you about it because it
wasn't until later when I watched it again with my kids,
I was like, this is a movie from my generation.
And I was like, oh my god, Matthew, that's it.
And I couldn't remember at the time. Yeah, well, Michael Parade.
(31:25):
The movie I was in with Michael was Eddie and
the Cruisers, which is also it's like the biggest cult
movie ever. But saying almost Fire was a really amazing
experience because now again it's the same thing with me
and this just hit me. You guys to the success
of nine O two one oh and all of you
(31:47):
and the success of the Brat Pack with all of
them from saying almost Fire has to be because of me.
You just he's the rink. Just hit me. I'm like
the older actor guy who I don't know maybe mentored
all of you. I don't know what degrees from Matthew Lawrence.
(32:13):
But working on that film was incredible and um, I
played to me Moore's gay next door neighbor and worked
with Joel Schumacher, who was one of the iconic directors
of all times. Um just an incredible person and to
this day, Uh, Andrew McCarthy is one of my best friends.
(32:39):
I just did a big, huge He came out with
a book that he wrote called Bratt that is a
huge deal right now. Amazing incredible book about his life.
And he's a great writer. And I just did a
virtual book sale thing with him. We met on st
(33:03):
almost fire and to this day we're still He's one
of my absolute best friends. And I have, you know,
just talking about this stuff. I have been so blessed
in my life with the people that I have met,
Like I actually I can't believe I'm sitting talking to
the two of you, because you two are two of
my have always been two of my favorite people in
(33:26):
the world. And um, I'm a sap. I'm gonna'll tear
up with much food commercials and I tear up, um.
But like looking at your face, Jen and your face story,
it does something to me that I'm just incredibly grateful,
incredibly grateful. Oh, we feel the same way about you
(33:52):
to our I don't know if you remember this, but
this is an example of if I can tell this
short story real quickly. When I was doing the show,
probably the third or fourth year, I was sharing a
house with some friends of mine on Mulholland Drive up
in the hills and for the summer they swift swapped
(34:15):
houses with a family from Edinburgh, scott and this family
came over and they had a sixteen year old daughter.
And I went out in the driveway when they pulled
up to meet them, and this sixteen year old girl
couldn't breathe when she saw that I was living at
this house because nine o two one oh was you
(34:40):
know what? It was all over the world. And about
a week later I said to her, tomorrow morning, meet
me at my car eight o'clock. You're coming to the
set with me. I'm gonna take you to work. And
I brought her in and we went into the makeup trailer.
She couldn't she was having panic attack. She was so
(35:02):
she couldn't believe she was there. I mean, think about
a sixteen year old from Edinburgh. And we went into
the makeup trailer and you were in there, and I
introduced her and I told you, and I think Brian
might have been in there, that she was from Edinburgh, Scotland,
and she was visiting the house and you said you
(35:25):
were finished with makeup. You said, okay, we'll see you later,
and you took her by the hand and disappeared with
her and took her to all the sets and took
had people take pictures with her in the peach pit
and in different places. It was one of the most
(35:46):
amazing days of her life. I mean, I haven't seen
her since that summer, but I know she will never
forget that, and I never forgot that about you. Um anyway,
all right, she's a good egg, that Tori. Well, we
(36:08):
wanted to just ask you, you know, like questions about
Mel and your time on the show. And yeah, obviously
we all formed really strong bond with you. I think Tori, myself,
Brian and of course Anna who played Jackie worked with
you the most. Um, But we just wanted to ask you, like,
(36:30):
what did you did you how did you come about
getting the role of Mel, and how did you like
the character? You know. The funny part is at that time,
this is how the actual call went. And I just
as I just saw both of you with Larry and
Chuck and Peter on their wonderful thing that they're doing. Um,
(36:53):
I think Chuck corrected me. I got a call from
my agent and he said, they want to talk to
you about uh playing a father on nine or two
one off And at that time this was during the
first I think at the beginning of the second year maybe,
And at that time the show was not very popular.
(37:15):
As you remember, there were a lot of people didn't
have Fox in their houses. And I had never really
seen the show. And I said to my agent, I
don't think I want to do that. It's a show
about some high school kids or something. I don't I
don't think I want to. And he said, you've never
(37:35):
played a father before. It would be really good for you.
Just go talk to them. And I went in and
I sat down and I met with them, and I
didn't even know whose father I was going to play.
And when they asked, they said, Brian Austin Green. I
think Brian was maybe eighteen at the time, or nine,
(37:58):
maybe eighteen maybe four four years or five years before that,
I had done. Do you remember a show called Circus
of the Stars I had done. She was on it.
I had done that show the year that Brian was on.
What was your act? I walked the high wire? Did
(38:19):
you wear tights? Of course? Uh? And can we see
a picture? Not I'll send you pictures. Not only tights,
but a big frilly shirt that was opened down to here.
And I was I was very funny. Actually, okay, anyway,
I got very friendly with Brian. He was a little
(38:43):
kid who was like thirteen or something. He was on
not landing, I believe, and with his mom, and we
were hearsed for weeks for that thing. Anyway, when they
told me it was to play Brian's father, I said absolutely.
I thought it would be one a couple of episodes
(39:05):
or one episode. What I found out from Chuck or
Larry was it was kind of an audition that first
episode to see how Anna and I got along. I mean,
the way your character was introduced was so great. We
just watched that episode recently and were sitting behind her
and she I love this so much. And You're like,
(39:28):
it sounds like you need a dentist or something, and
there you were, Oh my lord, Mr cheeseball. I was.
But that started. You know that that one or two
shows turned into nine years years. Um. I still can't
(39:49):
believe it. And like I say, all the it's part
of the of some of the greatest memories I have
of my life. And I got a lot of great ones.
I've done a lot of really razing things. But as
I said that, I'm sitting here talking to you two
is it's amazing to me. Amazing and that show. I mean,
(40:11):
as you know, maybe four years in I'm a big
history buff. I got a chance to work in Germany
and I went over to what was used to be
East Berlin and there was it's called the Brandenburg Gate.
Napoleon's armies marched underneath this thing. I couldn't wait to
(40:33):
see it, and I went took a cab, went by
myself and I'm standing there looking at this massive thing.
And a bus of tourists pulls up, Swedish tourists in Berlin, Germany,
about thirty of them, and they get off this bus
and they start walking towards this thing, and one of
(40:55):
them turns and sees me and goes Beverly Hills and
the whole book comes running over. They could have cared
less where they were, sweetest tourist, Blynn. That's you know.
You stand there and you guys know this better than anybody,
but you stand there and you just go the power
(41:16):
of TV and the reach of all this stuff is.
And you know from how people talk about the influence
you guys had on their lives growing up. Um, it's
pretty amazing. It's really really amazing. It's something, isn't it. Yep,
something to be proud of. You should you should be
so proud because your character was so memorable and we
(41:39):
you made such a lasting impression on each of us
as just people on the show. We all everyone loves you. Yeah, well,
do you know? I get? I still get how could
you do that? Would you do? Oh? I got all
you drunk? Don't you? I mean on the show. It
(42:04):
wasn't your fault. It was like half a glass, like
it was a toast. What Donna Martin? Thank you? And
what I say to these idiots that say that to
me is, first of all, I'm an actor. They give
you a script and you do what they tell you.
That's first number two. I didn't get them drunk. We
(42:24):
made a toast. I left, Steve came running back in
and grabbed the champagne and disappeared. It wasn't even real champagne.
It's a thirty years later, however long it is, I
still have to explain to people like it wasn't well,
you could flip it. You could say if it wasn't
(42:45):
for me, there would be no Donna Martin. Graduate It's like, hello,
there you go I think that I still get yelled
at too, because you know, I had an affair with
somebody when I had a three month old daughter or
whatever that. You know, Mike, excuse me, Hello, I'm an actor,
wasn't me? Okay? If you weren't an actor, what what
(43:07):
would you do? What? What? What would you have been
if you were an actor? What have you been in sports? What?
A good question probably would have been something to do
with sports. Absolutely. I mean sports has been the biggest
the way I got here. And I don't know if
you know who this is, but when I left l
(43:27):
a UM I just couldn't take living in l a anymore.
And uh I played in all these celebrity golf tournaments
over the years. And in the early nineties I met
coach Ka, who was the basketball coach at Duke and
he's a very big deal and he was then too,
(43:50):
and I was having dinner with he and his wife
in at a golf tournament and I told him I
wanted to leave l A. I was done, and he said, well,
why don't you come work with me? And I said,
what he said, just come to Durham, North Carolina. I
have an idea. So I sold all my stuff, drove
to Durham with my mom. She flew out to l
(44:13):
A and he told me he wanted me to do
radio for the Duke basketball team. So for ten years
that's what I did. I sat right behind coach k
and for ten years did radio for the Duke basketball team.
That sounds like so much fun. It was incredible, incredible.
(44:33):
And then I got married. Uh, we had a young
two young sons, and my wife was from here, from Kentucky,
from Lexington, and I was playing in the golf tournament
here and the guy that owns all these radio stations
here offered me a job with the ESPN Radio. So
(44:54):
we moved here mostly because my wife and my boys. Right,
That's how I got here. So sport it is the
answer to that question. How old are your kids now?
Oh my lord, Uh, I'm really old. You were not.
Excuse me, I am really old old. Thank you. Jenny
(45:18):
always told me the truth. I have a seventeen and
a fourteen year old, that's nothing. I got a twenty
three year old, Matthew. Excuse me, I'm seventy one. Jen,
I know you're not what stop it? Yeah? What you
just blew my mind? Don't compare me with you, Jen
(45:41):
with your children. Okay, wow, you are you are old?
What the hell? You look great? You look great for
seventy one. Wait, I gotta go backwards. I forgot to.
I gotta ask just one question about Saturday Night Live.
(46:02):
I I just want to know what that experience was like, Like,
that's like one of my dreams. Like, can you just
tell me what it was like to be on SNL. Well,
it was. It was different than almost anybody else that
has done it because our year, which was one, was
the first year of the new cast. It was when
(46:24):
everybody left and we were the next People hated us,
I mean, and so the whole experience was very different
culturally from the way the show was run to everything
about it. But for me personally, where do you get
(46:44):
the experience of even though not as many people watched,
millions of people and you're doing live TV every week. Um,
the three or four of the people on the show
at the time, I absolutely loved. We were very close.
Um and the musical guests that we had. That was
(47:05):
the best part of the show to me. Every Friday
when they would do they would come out and do
voice checks. Aretha Franklin James Brown, Prince, Uh, Debbie Harry
would stand there nobody in the studio, and and then
when of course, when they were you know, doing their thing,
(47:28):
Prince came out. Nobody knew who he was, and he
came out and did the weirdest song. He was humping
the stage he was at I mean, and nobody knew
who he was, and we were all I can Eddie
Murphy was on with with me that year. All I
can remember is Eddie that laugh that Eddie has, just hysterical.
(47:50):
And then you know, when all of a sudden Prince hit,
we went, wait, that's that guy that was on the show.
Here I and I have I have wonderful men. Reason
like I said, of the people just like you guys,
it's so much about the people that you work with,
as you know, I mean, um, it was an amazing experience,
(48:11):
but it was weird. That year was definitely weird. You
have the greatest stories. First of all, Oh, you have
no idea, You have no idea. I could spend hours
just listening to your stories. And you know what, Jen
and I have talked about this so many times, but
(48:31):
it is one thing that we we regret. But when
you're young. It is yourself involved, You're it's about you
and what's going on. But if we we've this is
numerous times this has happened. We wish we could go
back and do a do over and have gotten to
know people on a different level. We've talked about that
with Carol Potter and because it's like we didn't know
(48:54):
and I'm sorry that we didn't ask you about you
because listen to the stories you have. We would have
been so blessed to hear these stories. Then, yes, but
then I could have nearly as many stories as I
do now. First, I always say this about You're You
said that, so I'll say this about you. I always
(49:16):
talk about this because people ask me about you guys
a lot. They always haven't, they always will. You grew
up in a situation that nobody in the world grows
up in and for you back then, It's why I
love the story about what you did with that little
girl when she came. For you to be the person
(49:39):
that you are is the most incredible thing in the world.
It's not easy, what what all of you went through.
I mean, nobody realizes to what it's like to be
the most famous people when you're that young. You don't
even know who you are. Yeah, and everybody has these
(50:03):
feelings about you and thoughts about you and criticisms about you.
It's an almost impossible situation. And this is what I
mean for me to look at the two of you.
I just spoke to Brian for the first time twenty
five years. We talked for sorry a half hour. It
(50:26):
was what he's turned out to be after everything he's
been through. And you, guys, people have no idea how
amazing it is. They have no idea. Um You're such
a blessing, both of you to so many people, so
many thank you. You wish we could hug you right now.
(50:51):
Boy do I wish that. I'm going to come out
to l A this summer. Can we see you? I
I promptly we will get together and we'll have dinner.
I'll tell you a bunch more stories that I can't
talk about. Good. Look at that face on gin. We
(51:15):
we we before we end with you, we want to play.
We do these rapid fire questions with what we do
with that, because I know you'll be a hoot. Many
sisany sisney is gonna give it to you. Be sure
I've got them here. Okay, So favorite character on then
Antino besides mal Silver. You know what, no one ever
(51:39):
said themselves, Yeah yeah, hell yeah, alright, favorite cast member. Oh,
I can't answer that. You can't do that, all right?
If you take the girls out, the least favorite cast member,
I'm just I'm just I'm just missing. I almost that almost.
(52:00):
I'm doubt that's for when we get together. And okay,
I would say, Brian, if I take the two of
them out, I would say, okay, Now, if you had
a favorite no to a NO couple out of all
the couples that were more throughout the whole seasons, which
one would be your favorite? Me and Jackie there you
(52:20):
get nice before I had the affair with the dental,
got it, it happens. Now this is gonna be tough
for you. But if you had to kiss Mary or
kicked the curb one of the characters, who would it be?
So you kiss a character, you marry a character, and
then one of them you just throw away basically, Okay,
(52:44):
I'm going to be real honest here. I would kiss Tiffany. Okay,
I like it. She's very kissable. I get it. I've
done it, all right. Who would you marry Oh god,
(53:09):
I uh see, I can't say this. If we lived
in Utah, I would marry those two perfect that your
aunt's sister lives and me siver new show. Okay, we
got a show here. This is good, and I imagine
you probably don't want to kick anybody to the curb.
(53:29):
But if you had to know, all right, we will
make you towards you. Okay. Interesting he went with the
real life actors, not the not the characters. I did that.
Neverbody crossed my mind. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, oh the
characters easy? That. No, they're not easy. I still want
(53:52):
to go with the real people. Well, you're you're the
real deal, that's for sure. No, did you ever get
to keep anything from the show wardrobe or prop anything?
I didn't. I didn't keep any props. I don't know
what what kind of props my dental drill. This is
(54:16):
a funny story that I told Larry and Chuck too
real quick. We got a script one time and it
said mel is doing root canal on a patient in
his office. And I said, I can't remember who wrote it.
I said, have you ever had root canal? Do you
know what's involved in a root canal? I can't fake that.
(54:37):
They said, Okay, well, what should you do? I said,
give me one of those little mirror things, you know
that you look in somebody's mouth. How about I'm doing
that in this scene. You don't know how to get
a root canal? What's wrong with you? No? I know,
I should. I had plenty of them. I should know
how to do. I didn't get to keep any props.
(54:57):
I think I kept some of the wardrobe because my
wardrobe was pretty nice, except for the wedding pictures that
I keep seeing. People keep watching the show and they
text me with a picture of what they just saw
our marriage, that tuxedo thing that I was wearing for
the wedding. Of course, it was a long time ago,
(55:19):
but remember that my clothes, for the most part, were
pretty cool. I'm sure I stole I mean, I'm sure
they gave me some of them. Some of them. You
taught us all the tricks. Wait. Were you on the
new nine O two one? Oh? Okay, No, which I'd
(55:41):
always thought was kind of weird because you and Jackie
created and one of the main characters Silver It was
Aaron Silver. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. And you know what,
I'm glad, I really am. I really don't. I want
to be associated with our show. That's all the O.
G Yeah, loyalty is there. So Matthew, we love you
(56:07):
talking to you. I love you guys more. Um, I
really mean it. This has been a really tough year
obviously for everybody. Yeah, and it's things like this that
I can't tell you how this makes me feel inside,
just to not only talk to you, but to look
at your two faces. So thank you for thinking of
(56:30):
me than hugs. We always think about you, and we
love you, and we'll see you this summer. Okay, love you,
love you too. Oh oh my god. That just made
me so emotional. I love that man so much. He
was so good to me on that show, gud. There
(56:52):
were days, because you know, we went through stuff off
camera that was hard, and there were days that he
was just so kind and made me laugh and hugging
me and just he's always so warm and a good
person could just take a bad mood and make it better. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
it's one of the good ones. I can't wait to
(57:12):
get drunk with him this summer and hear some juicy stories.
It's so good baby. We'll let you guys know what happens.
We'll let you get a tissue tory and we'll take
a break and we will come right back. Okay, so
(57:40):
let's get into fashion deus and don't who liked what,
who hated what? Tell me? Tell me this is a
little bit of a fashion less episode, right, Well, it's
it's just a theme. Everybody's kind of got that can't
be theme. So there was no there were no like
fashion standout moments. I just appreciated all of the campaign.
(58:06):
Dylan and a jean jacket with a white T shirt
is just so classic perfect, that's it. Yeah, Yeah, and
that's It's like when I saw that, Yeah, when I
saw that scene of him, I was like that that
works now, like it worked then works out and it
was him and that was just like that's how you
always remember Dylan McKay that white T shirt and jean
(58:28):
jacket and his hair was just on point, Like both
Brandon and Dylan's hair were like the best they've ever been.
I think this is when they were like really realized
it's all about her hair. I know that scene of
them before they went hiking. I was just going back
and forth, like looking at both of them and just
their sideburns. Did you guys ever noticed Tory? I want
(58:50):
to ask you this Luke has a scar and his
eyebrow in his right eyebrow, I think, And do you
remember it becoming more prominent through the run of the show,
like early on it wasn't as prominent. I feel like
you're right for the makeup lady. Think her name was Alex,
(59:11):
Yeah was, And I can't even remember her cutting the
hairs to like accentuate the scar. Smart. Yeah, I don't
know whose idea that was. But do you remember why
he had that scar? I don't. I don't remember why.
M Yeah, you're right, You're right, that's a smart move.
(59:35):
That's like iconically part of him, So why not enhanceome
watching it? It was the first time we wore what
were those boots like Doc Martin's were obviously Timberland's, Thank you,
the Timberland's with the slouch socks. Yes, making you don't
you have to have those? Oh you have to. Yeah,
(01:00:00):
it also if you're not going hiking. They were a
fashion statement. Now now you can wear them with them
just about anything. Yeah, do you think I've ever hiked?
Like I wore them all the time. You're not a
big hiker, you know the answer to this. She's trying
to rile me up. We should go hiking sometime, like
(01:00:22):
never yeah. Uh. Lines from the show nine to two one, No,
you didn't. I kind of said mine. Earlier it was
the Newlyweds that said, do you want to come in
for a toast? I like Dylan's line, my mom says,
my planetary alignement is in severe disarray, which was setting
the stage for his mom, who was Stephanie Beacham so
(01:00:43):
iconic and um, okay, say my own. You know what
they say, it takes two to tango, tangle tangle. You
said takes two to tangle, right, I miss obviously in
Donna true Donna form said the wrong line because like
it is a term like it takes two to tangle. Sorry,
(01:01:04):
it takes two to tangle. Whatever I am, Donna Martin,
It's okay, I still can't get it right. You know
what it means? You know what they say, it takes
two to tangle. All right. We have a few listener questions.
Listens from Christine. I've heard that sometimes in the entertainment
world you are surrounded by yes people. Have either of
(01:01:24):
you experienced this and did you know they would do
whatever you asked? Does this cause problems in other relationships
in real life? Did any of your other castmates have
yes people? And did they use this to their benefit? Oh,
they want you to call some people out as well.
A lot of questions on that one question. There's a
lot of questions in these questions. I've noticed that they
(01:01:47):
get they packed them there. Yeah, definitely, I think actors,
that's what happens. And especially when you're young, at least
from my perspective, and Jen, I know you feel the
same way, Like you know, there you don't know that
they're doing whatever you want. You think it's like, oh,
(01:02:08):
I have all these new friends and they always just
want to do what I want to do and we
just get along so well, it's like we want the
same thing. And it's not until you look back on
the situation you're like, oh, but the yes people it's
not always to your advantage because usually the yes people
are also the clingers there, you know. Yeah, not only that,
but like it sets you up for failure later in
(01:02:31):
your life because reality check, there's not a lot of
yes people out there, you know, and and as you
as I've grown up and and like experience different things.
I kind of expect people to go along with whatever
I want, but that's not necessarily what they want, and
so it kind of sets you up to be like
(01:02:53):
to have a harsh reality check later in life, because
the people around you that truly love you are not
going to be yes people. They're going to be honest people.
That's true. And also it's those yes people that are
also We've talked about this before. When you're out and
having fun, you're like, Oh, they like to eat what
I like to eat. They like to go to places
(01:03:14):
I like to go. They're also the first to go
to the bathroom or like go about to get their
cars when the track comes, Like there's a reason you
just can't believe that you're paying for it. Oh well,
Mitchell is asking. You said your personal lives changed because
of your nine o two celebrity status, but what about
your professional ones, Like were there people around you who
(01:03:37):
really came through or let you fall hard when you
didn't expect them to, And what about career choices during
and right after the original run? Would you choose to
go in the same direction now or would you change
things up? Are we sure it's Mitchell. What if it's
Michelle or I thought it was Michelle, but there was
no e at the end, so Michel, it's mckel. Well,
(01:04:01):
m this is for you. I mean, it's so hard
to go back and say I wish things had gone
differently or what would I have done if it was different?
But I feel like, I mean, our paths just sort
of presented themselves before us, and you sort of take
advantage of what comes your way and make your decisions
(01:04:24):
based on what's kind of what are your options right
in front of you? And I mean I know that
right after the original run of the ten years of
the show, when we did our finale, it took a
minute for me to get my feet back under me
and decide what I wanted to do next, Like what
(01:04:46):
what do you do after that? And and who's going
to hire you to play a different role because everybody
identifies you with what you've just played for ten years
on the super popular show. So it was about sort
of waiting for the right thing to them along for
me and being sort of selective. And I kind of
like that now, Like I don't like to work, like
(01:05:06):
it takes a lot of incentive to get me to
leave my house to go work. I love what I do.
I love acting, and I love like telling stories and
helping and like giving people emotional journeys like I love that,
but I hate to leave my house. So how old
were your girls when the show rapped? I think I
(01:05:29):
had one? Yeah, I definitely only you only had one? Okay,
she was still little? One or two probably, And did
it ever cross your mind and just like I just
want to maybe be a mom for a few years,
or or did you want to jump right back into
something that's the only thing I knew how to do? So,
like I had to pay the bills, Like, you know,
I had created all through this ten years a lifestyle
(01:05:53):
that's certainly something that I had come from. It's something
that was created by this show and and the industry,
and so I had to keep up the lifestyle, you know,
and and pay for the house and pay for the
cars and pay for the kid, you know, all the
things you have to do when when when your life
starts to roll like that? So then yeah, you just
(01:06:15):
want to work when the show ended. For me, I
really wanted to do comedy. That was my thing because
that was like Donna's thing. You know everyone you know,
Jen was so I mean she's hilarious, Like obviously, now
she's just amazing comedy. At the time, you were known
for being like chromatic actress. Yes, and I never felt
(01:06:37):
like I could find my thing and and that was
my Niche was like the comedic moments. And when the
show ended, um, I did a deal with Fox to
develop my own sitcom and I was super excited and
it was the first time it was in front of
a live audience, and um it was the creator that
went on to create Family Guy. Like it was like
(01:06:59):
a big deal. And I was like, oh, all I
knew was a successful TV show, right and went on
for ten years? Did the pilot. I was like, oh cool,
now I'm gonna be on a sick I'm a sitcom attress, actress,
I'm gonna be funny, and it's gonna go on for
ten years. And it didn't get picked up. So that
was like a harsh reality because it was like you're
on such a high and you're like, it's just gonna
(01:07:20):
go right into something else successful and that didn't get
picked up. And then after that it was like back
to auditioning. It was like whoa reality check? You know,
you can go from a hit show and then have
nothing and have to you've climbed that mountain and just
you have to start all over again. That was a
big deal, but it helped turn me into what I think.
(01:07:40):
I'm a hustler. Like I was just like, Okay, let's okay,
here I go. I'm back out auditioning every week and
just let's do it. I wish that I had had
sort of more of a plan, like your question would
would would you change things up? Would you go in
the same direction? Now? I wish that I had some
sort of a plan, you know, like a business plan
(01:08:02):
of how I wanted to run my corporation, like like
created more things off of the buzz and the hype
of what I was and like you're you're not necessarily,
but just like I wish I knew what I wanted
to do, Like I never even wanted to be an actress,
Like I didn't know I wanted to be a nine
or two one. Oh, I didn't know I wanted to
(01:08:22):
be a mom my. My life is just sort of
always unfolded in front of me and I kind of
go with it. But I wish if I could go
back that I was like the person that said, I'm
going to go to business school, I'm gonna learn to
do this. I'm going to create my own company. I'm
gonna have a fortune situation. I'm gonna have a yacht.
Like I wish I had a plan for my career.
(01:08:44):
I still can. Do you feel like anyone on nine
oh two and I had that plan, like a plan
in place of what was next and like mapped it
out strategically. I mean, I think if if anyone had
those conceptions, I don't know if they played out the
way they wanted them to, because I think after the after,
after any show ends, an actor has that natural time
(01:09:08):
where they have to kind of reinvent themselves or you know,
take a breath and and and change gears a little bit.
I think all of us kind of experienced that in
our own way. It's it is interesting though we were
so young, but like now, like if Jan and I
suddenly had like a nine two oh right now, we
(01:09:31):
would know to be like, Okay, what's the big picture,
what's the merch s? You know, what are the would
be rolland hell yeah, we would like own private island
now two and openating suits. We would be we would
have our own airplane or something. Yeah, we would. We
would have our faces wrapped on everything. But there was
(01:09:55):
all this like no No two and no merch back
in the day, even during the show. Did you guys
get to cut it now? Oh my gosh, it was
all your faces that angers me. It should like we said,
we would do it all very yeah. Yeah, the contract
negotiations would have taken longer for that reason. Oh my goodness. Well,
(01:10:18):
this is a jam pack show, you guys. This is
a good episode. It's fun. That was what's next? What's
our next episode? Wild fire? You that sounds dangerous? Is
there fire involved it? Wild? No? I just remember the title. Well,
(01:10:41):
I'm excited to watch it. I hope you guys are too.
I hope you liked our chat with Matthew Lawrence did.
We sure had a good time. Amazing. He's very sweet.
He loves you girls so much. Lots of love. There's
so much love on our show with all that, all
the moving parts, a lot of love, crew cat used everybody.
(01:11:02):
So we're really happy to be here with you guys
every week. And uh, I guess we'll see you next week.
You guys. Bye. H
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