December 28, 2020 • 46 mins
Jennie remembers what Luke whispered in her ear during this episode.
Donna Martin and Tori ...life imitates art.
Find out the mistake Tori made that Donna made decades earlier.
Inside details about the Walsh house and why the boys liked the Extras but Tori wasn’t happy about that!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys. Wow,
So Christmas is over. That's few. We are almost towards
the end of and we're super excited. This is nine
(00:20):
O two one O m G. And I'm Tori Spelling.
I am here with my best friend Jenny Garth and
our friends Sisson E. Hi guys, Hi, Hi. Oh Happy
almost New Year, you guys. Oh? Who's doggie? That is Musso? Musso? Oh? Yeah,
(00:44):
his best friend is Jenny's dog his best friend Buddy, Yeah,
Buddy's here asleep. They haven't seen each other in a while,
and when they see each other they sniff butts and
lick wieners. It's super cute because I never do that
to Jenn when I see her. That one time one time,
I was like, am I supposed to give you like
a motor boat or something like? Is that the equivalent
(01:06):
of when the dogs smell each other's butts? I don't
know what a motor boat is, but I'm not sure
that I really want to open that, like when you
go to movies, And how do you know that? I've
never heard that? Am I alone? I guess I'm alone here.
I didn't I'm the only one to say. It's something
like girls would never want boys to do. But it's
(01:29):
a thing. Yeah, it's like you so gross. Well we
are on episode six of Beverly Hills, NANA two and oh,
and this episode is called higher Education and it first
aired on November nineteen ninety. I was a good year.
(01:50):
Good year. You know, we're like fine wines. Here's a
little synopsis for all y'all. Brandon's favorite subject, American history,
becomes an issue when he continuously kids sees and considers
alternative study aids, much to Andrea's chagrin. Brenda finds herself
(02:12):
drawn to the resident high school bad boy legend, Dylan McKay.
Do you say chagrins, I said chagrin, chagrin. I've never
heard that word same. I believe chagrin means like, you know,
she's not that happy about it. In this context, Andrea
was not very happy with Brands not studying with her
(02:34):
and going in quote unquote studying with Steve, which wasn't
really studying, right, I was cheating a lot of pool time. Um, okay,
let's do this. Jump right into it. Let's jump right
into it. Okay, Can I just say, well, you know,
I you know, I like the fashion. Uh, so we
(02:55):
get some peach pit love. Here we see the outside
of the peach pit, a lot of like inside of
the peach but they didn't have peach but uniforms yet.
You know, they have the cute little white button downs
with the rolled up sleeves. Will Brandon had his sleeves
rolled up, of course, because he don't show off his
like muscles, his little dream his dreamy muscles. Um, but
(03:15):
isn't that crazy? It was. It was much more so
like a fifties diner going for that vibe and like
old school, like Marty McFly, like for the diner in
Back to the Future. Yeah, definitely like that. This was.
This was. I was a little confused though, because in
the very beginning of the episode, Brand is walking and
(03:39):
he calls Andrea Andrea, and I didn't catch it. Yeah,
he called her Andrea, and then in the next scene
he calls her Andrea. So I, as a viewer, I
don't know who he's talking about. I think you're the
same person. That's a continuity issue if there ever was one.
(04:00):
It's true. When did you guys film I'm like, I'm
watching all these scenes on every day of every month.
But like it wasn't this an active high school, wasn't
the school? Yeah, we definitely. We shot at Torrance High
School and the school was in session, um just like
a normal high school, and um are like, you know,
(04:24):
base camp was set up out front like it was
like a zoo. We were we were animals on display
in a zoo. And we would come out and try
to get like the scenes done between you know, their
class bells or whatever. But it's a lot of schedule
and if it didn't, if it overlapped and we heard
the bell, we just had to like freeze. Yeah, and
then and then they were all the kids would come
(04:45):
out and stare at us and point and laugh. They're
all gonna laugh at you. Well, I'm sure at first
they were like what is the show? Who? What is?
You didn't know anything? And then obviously after they figured
it out, I probably thought it was so cool that
I know. I wonder if like they got cool because
of it. People were like, whoa, that shows a hit
(05:06):
and it's filmed at your high school. And at first
they were like go home, and then they were like hey,
So they were never in the background all the all
the people you see in the scenes are extras? Are
actual actors or were some of those students? No? Those
are all extras for sure, Okay, okay, yeah, And they
had a lot of extras on those days, thank god.
And they were so rad they that, you know, extras.
(05:30):
That's a hard job to be an extra. And we,
I mean shows movies couldn't do what they do without
these super talented background actors because they bring the life
to the to the whole scene. And I think that
so many times they get overlooked. I think there should
be a category for best background actor for the and
(05:57):
the Boys. The boys loved The Beautiful X Stress really yeah,
because I guess it's like fresh and it was the nineties.
You know. It was like, it doesn't matter if it's
the nineties. Okay, fine, I was being nice, like it wasn't.
It's like six seven episodes and they were sick of us,
So yeah, it was. But I feel like we would
(06:20):
get jealous a little bit, a little bit. It was
like they were our territory, Like like, yeah, if we
could have if we could have peed on all the boys,
we would have marked them. They were ours. I would
not pee on any of them. I don't think peing
for yourself. Really, yeah, I would have marked them. Those
(06:40):
boys were ours hands off well in this episode, this
is the first episode that we see the whole Brenda
Dylan I start to that starts with the spark between
Dylan and Kelly. You see that. It was so telling
of the future. I liked ones. I know what, don't
(07:02):
give it away for people that are watching for the
first time. This is I mean we did at thirty
year old episode. That's the thing, Tori. We actually did
get some d m s of of listeners that are
saying that we're spoiling some things in future episode because
they're watching for the first time. But you're right, since
(07:24):
it was first it was that at the lockers. I
remember that scene when Dylan says, no, the girls are
like which to really really important question, which do you
prefer blondes or brunettes? And he said he's always been
a blonde guy, right, he says it right to Brenda's face.
(07:44):
I know that was painful and for me that brought
that like triggered me. I don't know about you, ladies,
but like he was just fucking with her, like right
out of the gate, just like I was triggered for
you because I was like, you are his well, Brenda
(08:05):
is his in in the By the end of this episode,
you really see that that's kind of the direction that
the show is going to get Brenda and Dylan together.
I feel like the feelings that she had with wanting
to change your color something that was just so relatable
to a teenage girl. But you don't have you want.
(08:29):
The grass is always greener. When you have blonde hair,
you want brown hair. When you have straight hair, you
want curly hair. To this day, like you know, I'm
in my forties, I still go through like I just
wish I had blue eyes, Like do you know what
I mean? It's that thing. There's certain things that you're
just like, you know, we keep waiting for some surgery
to change your eye color. It'll happen in our lifetime, ladies. Yea, yeah,
(08:54):
So Brenda goes and for something. This is a life lesson. People.
Never ask your friend to dye your hair just after it.
It will always end badly unless they're like, you know, professional,
But that was a big mistake. I'd let you do
my hair, you let me take your extensions out. Once
(09:17):
you have taken my extensions. She has it was an undertaking.
She has taken out my extensions. She has put in
new extensions. She has cut my hair. Yeah, have you
ever done she has shaved my face. She has. I
don't think you've ever reciprocated. You've tanned. You've tanned my
(09:38):
body head to toe with your gloves. That's true friendship.
I have have I cut your hair? No, but I
want to cut those damn bangs. You know I want
you back in banks. You need to bring him back
for the podcast sake. I'm going to the bangs were
(09:59):
like for you, I'm going to order some from the
from the bangs. Nothing would make me happier. Nothing those
bangs unless on this last episode, we're just like fire
and on all cylinders. They were like coming out with
a trajectory that I mean, did they put like a
soda can under there and then just blow dry? How
(10:21):
was it done? Just a round brush like a round brush.
But that was must have been the biggest round brush
ever made because he applied like really got some like depth.
I was watching it with Fiona last night and she
was like, wow, Mom, those are some big bangs. And
then she said, and those are some big teeth, and
(10:44):
I thought you would appreciate that. I knew she was
my favorite of yours. I just knew it from the
mouths of babes. And she didn't say big. She said you, wow, Mom,
you have a lot of teeth. I said, I have
the same number of teeth as everybody else. Were you like?
(11:04):
Were you like? Go? Tori? Tori, she talks about my
teeth a lot. No, I said, She'll be happy. I'm
gonna get blinding you. There's a moment when in the
episode where Kelly and Dylan are coming down the stairs.
We actually had Beverly email us and it's asking if
(11:27):
you remember, Jenny, what Luke said in your ear to
make a giggle? I mean, or was it just acting?
I can assure you it was inappropriate. Oh really, what
do you say something like that? I love it. I
can assure you it was completely inappropriate. Do you remember, No,
(11:50):
I don't remember all the inappropriate things he said to me, Tori,
can you speculate? What do you think? Well? And like
a whispery like breathy warm right in your ear? He
was probably like and then said something inappropriate that made
her blush and giggle and laugh and her heart pound.
(12:16):
Yeah he was. He was really good at doing that.
And he loved he got he Yeah, he would get
her all riled up like all, oh giggly, you're giggly
now look at her. I know, I know. We should
talk about the Brandon part. We should talk about Brandon
(12:37):
and um, what's the teacher's name? Mr Dunn Denzel, Mr Washington,
Mr Dunne, interesting name d Mr Danzel, Mr. Okay, let's
get into that in one second. We have to take
a break. Okay, can't gay? So now can we talk
(13:07):
about Mr d Now we can? Okay? Good? Um, he
was really cute. I have a thing for older guys though,
and he was. He was a daughter when married to
a younger man. For your character in real life, now,
I like, I love I love the elders. What are
you talking about you've only dated younger men? Well yeah,
(13:30):
but not like to Oh you mean just like like
I appreciate I love h Okay, I get that. I
know what she means. But he was a rough teacher.
He was pretty pretty. Um I had one lady school.
Did you ever cheat? Did you ever cheat? And one thing, guys,
(13:51):
I hate to admit it, but I did there was
a final and someone got the test and a bunch
of us did it it, and yeah, we had to
go in and individually got caught. And they were like,
if you admit you did it, you're you know, you're
going to fail and have to do it over, but
you won't get expelled from school. And in fact, I
(14:15):
think I was doing nine O two one oh at
the time, so I was barely there and I just
wanted to like graduate and yeah, so that that was rough.
But it was really scary because someone promised us it
was like an old test. It was like an old test,
and they were like, this is the new test. And
because it was an old test and like six different
people had the exact same answers, they were able to
(14:37):
like call it. It was so scary. Not worth it,
Like worth it that takes years off your life, huh.
But you can really see how important, um their g
p A was to these kids. Oh my gosh. They
were so stressed out about their g p A and
like Andrea was so odd about her grades and Brandon
(14:58):
was so worried about his. I felt so stressed out
for them. Steve was so not worried about his grades.
With his character he wasn't, but he was. He was going.
He was pretty sure that he was going to go
to USC. That is every confidence in himself in the
right because he just felt like what his parents would
(15:18):
buy him into it, because that's what happens. I guess
when you're you get a little glimpse into him get
brought into college. I don't know, does that happen. I've
never heard a story about that. Turns out that's happened before. Interesting,
but we get a little glimpse into Steve's character, I
think a little bit more you find out he's like
(15:40):
both his parents are divorced multiple times, and he was
almost shocked that Brandon Walsh's parents were stayed together. Yea,
how set them? He laughs at Brandon because he's like,
are your parents still together? Like, and then it was
what did he say? He was like, uh, you'll be okay,
and then he like reversed it on him, comforting and yeah,
(16:02):
it's not the norm, but you're going to survive it.
Like it was just so mocking. I mean, I mean,
my parents we're still together when my dad passed away.
Your parents were still together, tour same, Yeah, both of
our parents together. How about you mine are still together
(16:23):
going on fifty years almost, I think like forty six,
forty seven. Maybe I love that so much. I always
wanted that to be the old couple that celebrates their
like seventy five anniversary together. Well, that's gonna be us.
That's gonna be us, and do it okay, because yeah,
(16:44):
they didn't speculate it had to be husband and wife.
Could be it could be your life wife. Can you
guys please have like a seventy fifth anniversary party like that?
Oh my god, Oh my god, we're doing it. We're
doing It's going to be a good night. The toast
you cris crossed your arms and drink the champagne. Oh
my gosh. And we're going to be like in rocking,
(17:04):
like bedazzled rocking chairs, ankers, the whole nine yards. We're
so by the way, we're doing that. I'm doing that yet.
But I did laugh out loud when Steve called Mr.
D the hemorrhoid. I feel like Donna was a little
(17:25):
feisty towards Mr. You were friend, and Donna's like the sweetest,
like she had been defined yet, so she was just
kind of like the like little like going along with it.
You had a good, nice tie. You had a good
line where you were like, I'm wearing both contacts on
the I didn't know when to bring this up, but
(17:47):
it's literally one of my favorite lines of Donna's from
all ten years is, oh my god, this is so embarrassing.
I think I'm wearing both contacts in the same eye
because it showed like she was so like giggly and
kind of dizzy, I guess and quirky. Um. The funny
thing is when we filmed it, I didn't wear contacts.
(18:08):
I was, you know, seventeen, I guess when we did
this one, and I was like, this is so weird.
Does this ever happen? And no joke, this happened maybe
four years ago. I was putting on my contacts and
I was like, what's going on? And I was like,
oh my god, I'm wearing the same contact wearing and
I was like, oh my god, I'm wearing both contacts
(18:29):
in the same eye. And I was like, life imitates
Donna Martin at her finest. It happened. That was glorious.
I felt like, Um, since you said that was a
really funny line, I feel like there was another couple
of really good lines in this episode. Um, that one
(18:49):
was my favorite. There was another one, Brenda said to Brandon,
excuse me for living that, remember that was such a thing.
Excuse me for breathing. Excuse me for a living. And
the other one was the other one was when Dylan.
I'm jumping ahead of the end of the episode, but
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like when Dylan he comes up when he's on the
motorcycle and he says, blonde, brunette, redheads, girls and tank tops.
Oh yeah, you felt the tingliness through that scene, burn
smoldering boy. He knew just what to say and always
did right under the skin. Him taking off his helmet
(19:32):
in that scene is iconic, is I That's how I
remember him when I think of him in a stare
like that's it. I'm picturing it right now. It's like
a grained in every female's brain. And those wrinkles on
his forehead he had like those great lines across his
worst and the one eye like going up. I mean,
(19:52):
is this strange? I was attracted to him at like
eight years old, Like is that like completely my not
at all? All? Over my wall? Like no, I wish
we had those now. The same In that same scene,
Brenda says to him, I like your butt. I mean
(20:14):
you're bike. I mean you're bike. But he never had
a butt, but now I'm going to look for it. No,
but when she said that, Fiona was like, oh my god, Brenda,
she never says the right thing. She was so like, no,
why did you say that. I love being able to
(20:35):
cringe in an episode, like when I'm watching something and
just like being able to feel the energy through the
TV and just like, oh, you're feeling with them. Yes,
I love that. How do we get back onto Dylan again?
We just keep jumping back to Brenda, and Dylan just happens.
I know. I have more to say about Brandon though,
because I felt like Brandon was so hard on Andrea
(20:59):
in this epiod, so he was so like borderline her
and Mrs Brandon. Brandon is like the nice guy, so
why is he so he's intense? But this episode he
was actually angry at people, which is very again character
again with the yelling in the library, Yeah, and what's
(21:21):
going on in that library? But I gotta get to
the bottom of it. I think in your past life
you really want to be a librarian apparently, because it
really bothers me that they kept having fights in the library.
I don't think I've ever been in the library. It's
just a teacher like he choose them out, Like could
you guys ever have chewed out that way like her? No,
(21:43):
but Brandon, I feel like that was not that was uncharacteristic.
I feel like they didn't write they missed the mark. Sorry. Yeah,
he was really a little bit too angry, too like
hot headed, because Brandon really wasn't hot No, but maybe
where maybe because we know what he is, we don't
(22:04):
see it. But right now he's just being introduced as
this character to the viewers what episode six, So he
obviously evolves, but they're definitely things out. But yeah, you
definitely see that like range of like when he is
sweet and cute and then he gets so fiery and
angry and then he gets guilty and then he is
(22:26):
apologetic and he kind of you know, finds the meaning
in it, and you know, he really did go through
kind of an emotional journey in this episode. I felt like, yeah,
I think he's like trying to find himself still. I
guess all of you guys are truly, but who isn't
I meant in the episode, Oh yeah, but touche we
(22:55):
just I mean, and Andrea was just really who she
comes at you man, I wouldn't want to piss off Andrea. Yeah,
but not like scary, just like you and accurate, like
she's got a point. I felt like, um, Jim the
(23:19):
dad Mr Walsh there again in a kind of a
weird helicoptery um like, hey, Musso zipping mus that's awesome.
Oh my god, if you've ever the screeching of Musso
that goes on when because we usually take our dogs
(23:40):
with us to work wherever we go, Buddy and Musso
so they can see each other. And Musso is notorious
bar yapping and anyone that comes around, he's like the
guard dog and she Tori will just scream, go ahead,
do it for all the listeners give him the Musso screech. Well,
(24:03):
first of all, it usually goes to are you gonna
do anything? Like are you gonna saying yeah, because you'll
sit there and he'll just be yapping, and the guy
ever starking at will be like back like yeah, Musso musto,
and they're like, are you just gonna sit there? You
have to do something or you're not gonna do something?
And then I'm like, oh, it's very enjoyable. Yeah, didn't
(24:26):
it hurt, like like the core of your brain when
you hear that little ball in the back of your
throat Like he stopped. He stopped. He's like mibrato during
bh I know someone ever he hated Brian Austin Green, Like,
why did I just say Brian Austin? He did? He
hated the listeners every time I come around. Remember every day,
(24:47):
he'd be like, it's me. Every time Brian would like,
Brian would say, it's me. Musso, you like me? You
remember like yesterday when we did this, you just saw me.
We just went through this every day. It's me. But
like he was kind of like kidding and like the
(25:08):
dry sense, but the same thing every day day and Musso.
I literally at the end of the student I think
Musso was just sing with him. I think he was
just like, oh, I know you, buddy, but good stuff. Sorry.
What were we even talking about before Musso rudely interrupted?
Just the anger between everyone kind of like being up
in a tizzy with all the cheating. You know, we
(25:29):
were talking about Jim. We were talking about Jim. Oh yeah, yes,
he was shame about not a helicopter. Yes, he was
kind of like hovering about the grades, and I felt
I felt pressured from him watching. I felt like, oh my,
I'll never be able to live up to his standards.
That probably was what Brandon felt like that all that
extra pressure. You guys have young kids, Like your kids
(25:53):
are still in elementary school, all of them, right, diapers
so even yet, so you haven't gotten to that. But
when they are in high school, yeah, yeah, when they
are in high school, like things do have to start
getting a little more serious if they want to go
on to college and like whatever they want in their lives.
(26:16):
And sometimes it's hard to like step back and let
them handle it. But I think that Jim needed to
step back, and Cindy was, you know, as always the
voice of reason right there to keep him in line.
While she's barbecuing. Another scene where she's barbecuing, I was like,
this girl is amazing, super mom. She cooks all the time.
(26:38):
I think that's all she did was garden and cook,
garden and cook, Oh my goodness. And they would have
their barbecues in the front yard or was that like
that was the backyard. It's a backyard. I would always
see the car like I was always confused. It was
like on the side, Yeah, there was like a cart
port and then that basketball cart where they the boys
always played basketball was attached to the was this house
(27:00):
owned by you guys? Like could you you guys were
always filming there or no, how did you do the scenes?
They we just used it like one day an episode
in the beginning when we used the Walsh House a lot.
We used to like when we shoot all the scenes
that took place exterior of the Walsh House that day.
Oh wait, so we did you hear this news? So
(27:22):
in a previous episode. I think you said that. Now
how they're just used to it and they welcome people, right,
but apparently they're still mad about it. There's still like
annoyed that people come there. They are because our our
number one super fan, Darren Martin, who knows everything nine
(27:43):
o two one bro knows everything about the show. He said, Uh,
last time they all went there when Brian was having
his podcast and they drove by, they were like, no,
you can't come into They couldn't come past the street.
Really yeah, well maybe they sold it to new people, didn't,
didn't I hear? He said? No, Darren say that, No,
(28:03):
it was not new owners. Maybe I might be speaking
at it. I kind of remember him saying something about
it was new own, new owners that weren't worn as
um excited. Okay, okay that maybe yeah, No, I don't know.
So it was all engines used for exterior. Any interior
was in vanuy correct set my world being crushed in
(28:25):
the bubble. Jenny refers to the box we were locked
in ten years next to the porn, next to the porn,
the good old day, good time, Oh my gosh. But
we left when we would go to that that location though,
And shoot, I loved going to that location in Altadena
because it was like it was beautiful. It was like
(28:47):
you were kind of out of l a a little bit.
And it's just remember we would like sit on the
front lawn in between takes and like just talk and
oh my gosh, I'll never forget the I don't even
know why this is coming up, but I'm having like
this vivid memory of we were filming at the wallsh
House and we were sitting on the front lawn the
day the O J trial was announced, the verdict, and
(29:12):
they had cameras in our faces and I just remember
being like, don't know a motion like you don't want
to have a response at all, But like I can
remember us all just like sitting in there and we
were like watching this old TV and like seeing what
was happening. Wow, that's a good memorizy. I mean, I
think we all remember where we were for that. I
don't long as you were there. You were sitting right
(29:35):
next to me. Apparently I was on the Walshlan. I
don't know if we talked about this, because we chatted
a little bit before we started the podcast. Did we
talk about Brenda's hair and the wig? We didn't. We
just I just said it never let your friend do
your hair. But yeah, that was a bad die job.
But the like the frizziness was so accurate to what
(29:57):
it would be like as a brunette because I tried.
I dyed my hair blonde when I was in high
school and I went to the grocery store and I
bought the blonde box because I was like, well, it's
gonna be blonde. And then it was like the picture
and you guys son and it would turn your hair orange? Yes,
why why do you want to be a blonde? Though?
I'm curious, like what seeing that Brenda was feeling. It
(30:21):
just felt like it was probably for a boy. It
was probably probably Dylan McKay's fault. Yeah, you see a
Kelly Taylor and you're just like, I want to look
like her. That's so funny because I dyed my hair
dark as soon as the show wrapped. I colored my
hair permanent colored super dark, like dark dark, dark, darker
(30:41):
than your hair, and why and why? Just to escape
because I wanted to experience what it was like to
not be a blonde like I wanted to know the
different album There was a huge difference, let me tell you.
But I went dark in the show. In the show, yeah,
I regret that overly. I think I just feel like Donna.
Donna's like a blonde like she was like, it looks
(31:04):
so beautiful. Though as that I loved that red. I
like it, it just didn't feel like Donna. I wish
I hadn't married David. I wanted to remember Donna and
David the way they met and so in mind, but
it was like at the time, I just remember I
had a manager that was like, um, you know to
do things beyond nine two and oh, you need to
(31:27):
you know, be the girl next door. You need not
to be blonde and platinum, like you need brown hair
and just to be taken seriously as an actress. Did
it work? That didn't work out that? I feel like
that was a really bad wig though on Brenda poor thing,
it was really bad, yeah Champ, though she did good
(31:50):
sport on that one. That wasn't early in the series
of Dylan like, well, we have some emails and some
d ms from people, which I think we should get to. Um,
but let's take a break and we'll come right back. Yeah, wait,
(32:15):
we into emails. No, yeah, you know we have a few,
and I know that we've we've read one already, so
I wanted to pick up this one from thank you
guys for writing in like we love this right and more.
We want to hear what you think about it, bad
or good. We want to hear questions you have for
us upcoming episodes, like let us know. Yeah, that was
like one that we got from Monica where she was like,
(32:35):
can you guys not spoil anything from future seasons for example?
I cannot promise that. But the good to think of
like people, that's so cool that people are jumping in
watching it for the first time with us just kind
of like my husband is truly watching it for the
first time. He's still in love. This good Okay, This
(32:58):
one is from Karen says, how long did you have Well,
there's a few questions, so we'll just break it up.
How long did you have a script before shooting? Good question, Karen,
very sensible question. I like it. I know. I'm actually
curious too. We would get like, um, the episode. The
We'll be shooting one episode and then we get the
(33:19):
new episode, sometimes as late as the day before we
started shooting. Um, but sometimes we get it like three
days before we start shooting. Yeah, I mean, there were
there were times when we weren't getting scripts until the
day of shooting, but that was later. How do they
expect you guys to memorize it, because don't you think
there was like a first draft that would come out
(33:41):
like a shooting script, and then it would change radically
I know what she means, like later season. Sometimes things
were rushed and there were notes and we never really
got to look at the first drafts though. Remever, the
first drafts were kind of not for our eyes. And
then they went through and that they would do revisions
(34:02):
what's called revisions, and they would every revision is a
different color. So the script would come out on white paper,
and then you would get your first revision, which was
usually either pink or blue. Um that draft would you
would add those pages to the white one, and then
you would add the pink pages when those came out,
because it kept going through changes. I can't like the
(34:24):
rainbow you see her O C D coming out. This
is what's important to I'm picturing her binders remember things
that she filmed in a show. But she can remember
the order of the color of the order. You gotta
you gotta have the binder. I got to have the binder,
and much I love you. You got to take out
the white ones, put in the blue ones right in there,
(34:47):
and then you close their back up until you get
your new ones. So exciting. I never did that. They
just all sat in my room that they didn't even
open them, open them piled up. How had I learn
my lines? Yeah, Like I have like a photographic memory,
(35:08):
so I'm good at learning lines. Like spending time online
isn't good for me because I'll forget it by the
time I get there. For me, it's easier to like
look it up, pick it up, and move on. To
the next scene. Yeah, me too, Okay. Her next question
was how hard is it to memorize the scene? I
was just saying this, like, I feel like because I've
used my short term memory so much, meaning that like
(35:30):
instant recall looking at something on paper one time, looking
and picking it up and then going and reciting it
in the scene. I've used my short term memory so
much that that kind of, you know, I've been shadowed
my long term memories. Maybe that's part of it. Is
that your story and you're sticking to it. I mean
it works. Yeah, that's crazy. We were we were we
(35:54):
would literally like just like look at it. We didn't.
They were little. We had the little side because they
would staple it together, all your scenes and all the sides,
and they were little. Now why would they make them little,
like why would they make I don't know, instead of
full sized pages like of a regular It doesn't make sense.
Names very round in your pocket. But now like we're
(36:15):
old and we all have to have it food please,
and we all like on beach and I don't know,
it was a joke. I think we added it to
a scene because we thought it was so funny that
we all needed huge fond printed out and nobody used
the many pages anymore. That is hysterical. And back then
(36:40):
we had all had perfect vision and yeah, we like
glanced at it once and be like, oh a paragraph.
Yeah I haven't memorized, let's go. Our next question was
who in particular would be more likely to forget their
lines or always had bloopers or reduce. I feel like
we all had her share, but I know I'd definitely
forgot my lines a lot. There were times I remember
(37:04):
being in the middle of the scene and just flatlining,
like completely losing track of what we were doing, where
we were, what was was supposed to be happening, and
that they would be like there she goes and she
would and she'd and she'd like freeze and like pursonal
lips look around and she'd be like, I got nothing?
(37:25):
What nothing? So funny. But in general, I feel like
everyone was pretty on it with their lines. Yeah, I
mean because we did. We didn't. It wasn't like I
would go home and maybe peruse the next day's work
before I would go to sleep, or before I worked
that the day before. But it wasn't like a go
home and sit down and study and you know, break
(37:46):
it all down very often their room for improv or
did you guys really stick to the lines always? We
were pretty good about they made a stick tight to that. Yeah.
First at first we could add in little inflections, are
little like you know, flavors here and there. But we
definitely had to get their words across. And I don't
think it even it didn't even really enter our minds
(38:10):
to want to improve or that we could. Yeah, we
just like must say the words as written like robots.
I feel like a lot of the I feel like
the boys would put in a little like they would
do their handshakes and add like equivalent of like what
the new word like bro is. Everything was mapped out
for you guys from the lines to like the physical
(38:32):
acting and all that as well. No, no, no, I'm
saying like the guys like any of the handshakes, like
the that was whatever came down to a little like
high fives that the boys did like their head. We
did that too. We we brought our own flavor to
they did all our stuff. We did too. Though. I
feel like the writers were so great about writing to
(38:55):
all of our individual sort of voices because they really
listen to the way we talked to each other and
they they still listen. It was really great to see
that happened. We didn't even know what was happening. Don't
you feel like you didn't know what was happening? But
then all of a sudden, like Donna and Kelly turned
(39:16):
into Torrey and Jenny, but we didn't know. It was
like they just did it, like like like a little
like puppeteers behind the scenes, like the Wizard of Oz,
like all knowing were watching us listening all the time.
Pretty cool, Like it didn't occur to us at the time,
like oh, our characters are evolving more into us and
becoming more of us, Like we can look back now
(39:38):
and see it, but at the time we didn't know.
It was just like I felt, right, maybe they had
one specific person to easedrop on you guys at all time.
That was their job the notes. Who is that person?
Maybe it's maybe that was the same person that told
Jessica Alba not to look us in the eyes. We
don't know, We will never know, but we will never
let that go. One more question from Karen. She really
(40:01):
had a lot of them for wardrobe. Did you choose
your outfits or did someone select that for you. I
feel like we've touched on, touched on this before. But
speaking of outfits, before we answer that your little tummy,
what was that was the cutest little shirt you were
wearing in the school, in the classroom. It barely went
below your boobs and your entire midriff was out so
(40:25):
tan and taught and cute. She called me tat talt.
Those were the days I didn't even appreciate it. Then
I was like, oh, look at that. It's something to
see little Tom Tom. Yeah, she was a good one.
(40:50):
She's been through a lot now she's still a good one.
And another one of the fashion moments was like Steve,
every scene he had a new oh Glee shirt on.
He had so many shirt changes in this episode. And
then it was just like Highways of jeans with a
belt and another big blousy, ugly shirt, big blousy collar. Sure,
(41:14):
I feel like like it was like almost Pirates of
Penzance kind of ish, but like mixed with like what
it was like, I don't know, I don't know what's happening.
It was like bad, you know, like when you think
of like a comedy, a stand up comic back in
the nineties, that's what he dressed like, but that was
the style back then. But like apparently, like so here
(41:37):
back to your question, like we did have say in it,
and more and more as the show progressed. I think
in the first you know, the pilot, we let them
do whatever they wanted. We didn't know they were not
us first episode as well. But as I started to progress,
you know, they started to figure out our individual styles,
what worked best on our bodies, what we liked. Um,
(41:58):
but we definitely could say, like, know, that doesn't work
for me. Like, it's not like you had to wear it.
There was a big room, big room full of clothes,
and they would kind of separate it. That means the
iron pick those shirts. He gravitated right towards them. Yeah,
would it be day of or did you guys go
(42:18):
a separate day and do No. You had to do
a fitting for every episode, and they were gruesome. They
were like marathons sometimes because sometimes a lot of changes
in the next episode, and so while we're filming the
episode before, we would have to go in and do
your wardrobe fitting for the next episode, sometimes during your
lunch hour after work, like early it was Yeah, it
(42:41):
was it's always a lot. Wardrobe is a really tricky,
challenging part of acting, I think more so than people
even think, because it takes a lot of energy and
planning and you know, wardrobe stylists and coordinators or they
have a lot of work to do and then the
actor comes in it's like, I don't like that. Yeah,
that's what they've done so much work. Yeah, but we
(43:05):
there was. It was a lot of a lot of
clothes we went through on that show Man. What's so
crazy is that the majority of it is back in
style in that wish I could go into that room
now it looks like H and M or top Shop.
Right now, that's all the styles that are crazy. Do
(43:28):
you think they linger into one. Do you guys have
any New Year's resolutions? Oh? Good questions? New Year's resolutions,
it's happening. We're getting the hell out of people, let's
hear it. I mean that right there is like I
don't even think we need resolutions for the year. You
(43:50):
know what? Crazy enough? I know was horrific on so
many levels for so many people. Um, but there were
moments of it they gave us pause to kind of
go back to what was important, the simpler things. In
life like Quarantine as awful as it was, like, let
us be with our family. Sometimes life moves really fast.
(44:12):
Who didn't fare Spuelers say that, and you don't get
that moment um for Jen and I like we started
a lot of passion projects in um we had time
to kind of do that and really get our our
ducks lined up. That is going to be really amazing. Yeah, yeah,
I feel like one, I mean, it's got to be
better than So there's that everybody's starting off, you know,
(44:37):
in the in the positive. Yeah, I think I think
we all have like a new mindset, like you said, Tori,
because of what we went through this year. And I
know what's like more important versus like I was just
going a hundred miles per hour two before we all paused.
So and it really doesn't. It's like a lesson and
like you don't like you don't, it doesn't matter what
your resolution is, because going to be whatever, it's going
(45:00):
to be, right, You've got no control. Yeah, Remember like
every year you'd be like, this is going to be
the best year, best year, Like I feel like none
of us are saying that anymore because of what happened.
We were like we had no idea. You know, we're
ringing in whoa, it's gonna be the best year, and
then everyone's like whoa. So now we're just like just like,
(45:22):
just take it as it comes and go the flow.
Be in the moment, be with your loved ones, focus
on the things that are important and good for you,
and keep you safe and just go with it and
see what happens. That's my resolution. I love that. Like that, Well, ladies,
(45:44):
I think it's time to wrap it up and no, no,
oh my gosh, wait, this is it. This is it. Yeah,
this is our last. This year. Homework assignment will be
to watch episode seven, Episode seven coming up next week, everybuddy,
do your homework. Oh my gosh. So by yeah. I
(46:06):
always love it at the end of of a year
when you and you're done working or seeing people and
you can say, okay, see you next year. So it's
really like in a week, oh my god. And this
was like one of those years they're like, hope's here
next year for what's going to happen. But we're there,
We're gonna get through it. It's going to happen, so
(46:26):
we will. We will definitely see you next year. Um,
be safe. See you next year, O m G
It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys. Wow,
So Christmas is over. That's few. We are almost towards
the end of and we're super excited. This is nine
(00:20):
O two one O m G. And I'm Tori Spelling.
I am here with my best friend Jenny Garth and
our friends Sisson E. Hi guys, Hi, Hi. Oh Happy
almost New Year, you guys. Oh? Who's doggie? That is Musso? Musso? Oh? Yeah,
(00:44):
his best friend is Jenny's dog his best friend Buddy, Yeah,
Buddy's here asleep. They haven't seen each other in a while,
and when they see each other they sniff butts and
lick wieners. It's super cute because I never do that
to Jenn when I see her. That one time one time,
I was like, am I supposed to give you like
a motor boat or something like? Is that the equivalent
(01:06):
of when the dogs smell each other's butts? I don't
know what a motor boat is, but I'm not sure
that I really want to open that, like when you
go to movies, And how do you know that? I've
never heard that? Am I alone? I guess I'm alone here.
I didn't I'm the only one to say. It's something
like girls would never want boys to do. But it's
(01:29):
a thing. Yeah, it's like you so gross. Well we
are on episode six of Beverly Hills, NANA two and oh,
and this episode is called higher Education and it first
aired on November nineteen ninety. I was a good year.
(01:50):
Good year. You know, we're like fine wines. Here's a
little synopsis for all y'all. Brandon's favorite subject, American history,
becomes an issue when he continuously kids sees and considers
alternative study aids, much to Andrea's chagrin. Brenda finds herself
(02:12):
drawn to the resident high school bad boy legend, Dylan McKay.
Do you say chagrins, I said chagrin, chagrin. I've never
heard that word same. I believe chagrin means like, you know,
she's not that happy about it. In this context, Andrea
was not very happy with Brands not studying with her
(02:34):
and going in quote unquote studying with Steve, which wasn't
really studying, right, I was cheating a lot of pool time. Um, okay,
let's do this. Jump right into it. Let's jump right
into it. Okay, Can I just say, well, you know,
I you know, I like the fashion. Uh, so we
(02:55):
get some peach pit love. Here we see the outside
of the peach pit, a lot of like inside of
the peach but they didn't have peach but uniforms yet.
You know, they have the cute little white button downs
with the rolled up sleeves. Will Brandon had his sleeves
rolled up, of course, because he don't show off his
like muscles, his little dream his dreamy muscles. Um, but
(03:15):
isn't that crazy? It was. It was much more so
like a fifties diner going for that vibe and like
old school, like Marty McFly, like for the diner in
Back to the Future. Yeah, definitely like that. This was.
This was. I was a little confused though, because in
the very beginning of the episode, Brand is walking and
(03:39):
he calls Andrea Andrea, and I didn't catch it. Yeah,
he called her Andrea, and then in the next scene
he calls her Andrea. So I, as a viewer, I
don't know who he's talking about. I think you're the
same person. That's a continuity issue if there ever was one.
(04:00):
It's true. When did you guys film I'm like, I'm
watching all these scenes on every day of every month.
But like it wasn't this an active high school, wasn't
the school? Yeah, we definitely. We shot at Torrance High
School and the school was in session, um just like
a normal high school, and um are like, you know,
(04:24):
base camp was set up out front like it was
like a zoo. We were we were animals on display
in a zoo. And we would come out and try
to get like the scenes done between you know, their
class bells or whatever. But it's a lot of schedule
and if it didn't, if it overlapped and we heard
the bell, we just had to like freeze. Yeah, and
then and then they were all the kids would come
(04:45):
out and stare at us and point and laugh. They're
all gonna laugh at you. Well, I'm sure at first
they were like what is the show? Who? What is?
You didn't know anything? And then obviously after they figured
it out, I probably thought it was so cool that
I know. I wonder if like they got cool because
of it. People were like, whoa, that shows a hit
(05:06):
and it's filmed at your high school. And at first
they were like go home, and then they were like hey,
So they were never in the background all the all
the people you see in the scenes are extras? Are
actual actors or were some of those students? No? Those
are all extras for sure, Okay, okay, yeah, And they
had a lot of extras on those days, thank god.
And they were so rad they that, you know, extras.
(05:30):
That's a hard job to be an extra. And we,
I mean shows movies couldn't do what they do without
these super talented background actors because they bring the life
to the to the whole scene. And I think that
so many times they get overlooked. I think there should
be a category for best background actor for the and
(05:57):
the Boys. The boys loved The Beautiful X Stress really yeah,
because I guess it's like fresh and it was the nineties.
You know. It was like, it doesn't matter if it's
the nineties. Okay, fine, I was being nice, like it wasn't.
It's like six seven episodes and they were sick of us,
So yeah, it was. But I feel like we would
(06:20):
get jealous a little bit, a little bit. It was
like they were our territory, Like like, yeah, if we
could have if we could have peed on all the boys,
we would have marked them. They were ours. I would
not pee on any of them. I don't think peing
for yourself. Really, yeah, I would have marked them. Those
(06:40):
boys were ours hands off well in this episode, this
is the first episode that we see the whole Brenda
Dylan I start to that starts with the spark between
Dylan and Kelly. You see that. It was so telling
of the future. I liked ones. I know what, don't
(07:02):
give it away for people that are watching for the
first time. This is I mean we did at thirty
year old episode. That's the thing, Tori. We actually did
get some d m s of of listeners that are
saying that we're spoiling some things in future episode because
they're watching for the first time. But you're right, since
(07:24):
it was first it was that at the lockers. I
remember that scene when Dylan says, no, the girls are
like which to really really important question, which do you
prefer blondes or brunettes? And he said he's always been
a blonde guy, right, he says it right to Brenda's face.
(07:44):
I know that was painful and for me that brought
that like triggered me. I don't know about you, ladies,
but like he was just fucking with her, like right
out of the gate, just like I was triggered for
you because I was like, you are his well, Brenda
(08:05):
is his in in the By the end of this episode,
you really see that that's kind of the direction that
the show is going to get Brenda and Dylan together.
I feel like the feelings that she had with wanting
to change your color something that was just so relatable
to a teenage girl. But you don't have you want.
(08:29):
The grass is always greener. When you have blonde hair,
you want brown hair. When you have straight hair, you
want curly hair. To this day, like you know, I'm
in my forties, I still go through like I just
wish I had blue eyes, Like do you know what
I mean? It's that thing. There's certain things that you're
just like, you know, we keep waiting for some surgery
to change your eye color. It'll happen in our lifetime, ladies. Yea, yeah,
(08:54):
So Brenda goes and for something. This is a life lesson. People.
Never ask your friend to dye your hair just after it.
It will always end badly unless they're like, you know, professional,
But that was a big mistake. I'd let you do
my hair, you let me take your extensions out. Once
(09:17):
you have taken my extensions. She has it was an undertaking.
She has taken out my extensions. She has put in
new extensions. She has cut my hair. Yeah, have you
ever done she has shaved my face. She has. I
don't think you've ever reciprocated. You've tanned. You've tanned my
(09:38):
body head to toe with your gloves. That's true friendship.
I have have I cut your hair? No, but I
want to cut those damn bangs. You know I want
you back in banks. You need to bring him back
for the podcast sake. I'm going to the bangs were
(09:59):
like for you, I'm going to order some from the
from the bangs. Nothing would make me happier. Nothing those
bangs unless on this last episode, we're just like fire
and on all cylinders. They were like coming out with
a trajectory that I mean, did they put like a
soda can under there and then just blow dry? How
(10:21):
was it done? Just a round brush like a round brush.
But that was must have been the biggest round brush
ever made because he applied like really got some like depth.
I was watching it with Fiona last night and she
was like, wow, Mom, those are some big bangs. And
then she said, and those are some big teeth, and
(10:44):
I thought you would appreciate that. I knew she was
my favorite of yours. I just knew it from the
mouths of babes. And she didn't say big. She said you, wow, Mom,
you have a lot of teeth. I said, I have
the same number of teeth as everybody else. Were you like?
(11:04):
Were you like? Go? Tori? Tori, she talks about my
teeth a lot. No, I said, She'll be happy. I'm
gonna get blinding you. There's a moment when in the
episode where Kelly and Dylan are coming down the stairs.
We actually had Beverly email us and it's asking if
(11:27):
you remember, Jenny, what Luke said in your ear to
make a giggle? I mean, or was it just acting?
I can assure you it was inappropriate. Oh really, what
do you say something like that? I love it. I
can assure you it was completely inappropriate. Do you remember, No,
(11:50):
I don't remember all the inappropriate things he said to me, Tori,
can you speculate? What do you think? Well? And like
a whispery like breathy warm right in your ear? He
was probably like and then said something inappropriate that made
her blush and giggle and laugh and her heart pound.
(12:16):
Yeah he was. He was really good at doing that.
And he loved he got he Yeah, he would get
her all riled up like all, oh giggly, you're giggly
now look at her. I know, I know. We should
talk about the Brandon part. We should talk about Brandon
(12:37):
and um, what's the teacher's name? Mr Dunn Denzel, Mr Washington,
Mr Dunne, interesting name d Mr Danzel, Mr. Okay, let's
get into that in one second. We have to take
a break. Okay, can't gay? So now can we talk
(13:07):
about Mr d Now we can? Okay? Good? Um, he
was really cute. I have a thing for older guys though,
and he was. He was a daughter when married to
a younger man. For your character in real life, now,
I like, I love I love the elders. What are
you talking about you've only dated younger men? Well yeah,
(13:30):
but not like to Oh you mean just like like
I appreciate I love h Okay, I get that. I
know what she means. But he was a rough teacher.
He was pretty pretty. Um I had one lady school.
Did you ever cheat? Did you ever cheat? And one thing, guys,
(13:51):
I hate to admit it, but I did there was
a final and someone got the test and a bunch
of us did it it, and yeah, we had to
go in and individually got caught. And they were like,
if you admit you did it, you're you know, you're
going to fail and have to do it over, but
you won't get expelled from school. And in fact, I
(14:15):
think I was doing nine O two one oh at
the time, so I was barely there and I just
wanted to like graduate and yeah, so that that was rough.
But it was really scary because someone promised us it
was like an old test. It was like an old test,
and they were like, this is the new test. And
because it was an old test and like six different
people had the exact same answers, they were able to
(14:37):
like call it. It was so scary. Not worth it,
Like worth it that takes years off your life, huh.
But you can really see how important, um their g
p A was to these kids. Oh my gosh. They
were so stressed out about their g p A and
like Andrea was so odd about her grades and Brandon
(14:58):
was so worried about his. I felt so stressed out
for them. Steve was so not worried about his grades.
With his character he wasn't, but he was. He was going.
He was pretty sure that he was going to go
to USC. That is every confidence in himself in the
right because he just felt like what his parents would
(15:18):
buy him into it, because that's what happens. I guess
when you're you get a little glimpse into him get
brought into college. I don't know, does that happen. I've
never heard a story about that. Turns out that's happened before. Interesting,
but we get a little glimpse into Steve's character, I
think a little bit more you find out he's like
(15:40):
both his parents are divorced multiple times, and he was
almost shocked that Brandon Walsh's parents were stayed together. Yea,
how set them? He laughs at Brandon because he's like,
are your parents still together? Like, and then it was
what did he say? He was like, uh, you'll be okay,
and then he like reversed it on him, comforting and yeah,
(16:02):
it's not the norm, but you're going to survive it.
Like it was just so mocking. I mean, I mean,
my parents we're still together when my dad passed away.
Your parents were still together, tour same, Yeah, both of
our parents together. How about you mine are still together
(16:23):
going on fifty years almost, I think like forty six,
forty seven. Maybe I love that so much. I always
wanted that to be the old couple that celebrates their
like seventy five anniversary together. Well, that's gonna be us.
That's gonna be us, and do it okay, because yeah,
(16:44):
they didn't speculate it had to be husband and wife.
Could be it could be your life wife. Can you
guys please have like a seventy fifth anniversary party like that?
Oh my god, Oh my god, we're doing it. We're
doing It's going to be a good night. The toast
you cris crossed your arms and drink the champagne. Oh
my gosh. And we're going to be like in rocking,
(17:04):
like bedazzled rocking chairs, ankers, the whole nine yards. We're
so by the way, we're doing that. I'm doing that yet.
But I did laugh out loud when Steve called Mr.
D the hemorrhoid. I feel like Donna was a little
(17:25):
feisty towards Mr. You were friend, and Donna's like the sweetest,
like she had been defined yet, so she was just
kind of like the like little like going along with it.
You had a good, nice tie. You had a good
line where you were like, I'm wearing both contacts on
the I didn't know when to bring this up, but
(17:47):
it's literally one of my favorite lines of Donna's from
all ten years is, oh my god, this is so embarrassing.
I think I'm wearing both contacts in the same eye
because it showed like she was so like giggly and
kind of dizzy, I guess and quirky. Um. The funny
thing is when we filmed it, I didn't wear contacts.
(18:08):
I was, you know, seventeen, I guess when we did
this one, and I was like, this is so weird.
Does this ever happen? And no joke, this happened maybe
four years ago. I was putting on my contacts and
I was like, what's going on? And I was like,
oh my god, I'm wearing the same contact wearing and
I was like, oh my god, I'm wearing both contacts
(18:29):
in the same eye. And I was like, life imitates
Donna Martin at her finest. It happened. That was glorious.
I felt like, Um, since you said that was a
really funny line, I feel like there was another couple
of really good lines in this episode. Um, that one
(18:49):
was my favorite. There was another one, Brenda said to Brandon,
excuse me for living that, remember that was such a thing.
Excuse me for breathing. Excuse me for a living. And
the other one was the other one was when Dylan.
I'm jumping ahead of the end of the episode, but
(19:10):
like when Dylan he comes up when he's on the
motorcycle and he says, blonde, brunette, redheads, girls and tank tops.
Oh yeah, you felt the tingliness through that scene, burn
smoldering boy. He knew just what to say and always
did right under the skin. Him taking off his helmet
(19:32):
in that scene is iconic, is I That's how I
remember him when I think of him in a stare
like that's it. I'm picturing it right now. It's like
a grained in every female's brain. And those wrinkles on
his forehead he had like those great lines across his
worst and the one eye like going up. I mean,
(19:52):
is this strange? I was attracted to him at like
eight years old, Like is that like completely my not
at all? All? Over my wall? Like no, I wish
we had those now. The same In that same scene,
Brenda says to him, I like your butt. I mean
(20:14):
you're bike. I mean you're bike. But he never had
a butt, but now I'm going to look for it. No,
but when she said that, Fiona was like, oh my god, Brenda,
she never says the right thing. She was so like, no,
why did you say that. I love being able to
(20:35):
cringe in an episode, like when I'm watching something and
just like being able to feel the energy through the
TV and just like, oh, you're feeling with them. Yes,
I love that. How do we get back onto Dylan again?
We just keep jumping back to Brenda, and Dylan just happens.
I know. I have more to say about Brandon though,
because I felt like Brandon was so hard on Andrea
(20:59):
in this epiod, so he was so like borderline her
and Mrs Brandon. Brandon is like the nice guy, so
why is he so he's intense? But this episode he
was actually angry at people, which is very again character
again with the yelling in the library, Yeah, and what's
(21:21):
going on in that library? But I gotta get to
the bottom of it. I think in your past life
you really want to be a librarian apparently, because it
really bothers me that they kept having fights in the library.
I don't think I've ever been in the library. It's
just a teacher like he choose them out, Like could
you guys ever have chewed out that way like her? No,
(21:43):
but Brandon, I feel like that was not that was uncharacteristic.
I feel like they didn't write they missed the mark. Sorry. Yeah,
he was really a little bit too angry, too like
hot headed, because Brandon really wasn't hot No, but maybe
where maybe because we know what he is, we don't
(22:04):
see it. But right now he's just being introduced as
this character to the viewers what episode six, So he
obviously evolves, but they're definitely things out. But yeah, you
definitely see that like range of like when he is
sweet and cute and then he gets so fiery and
angry and then he gets guilty and then he is
(22:26):
apologetic and he kind of you know, finds the meaning
in it, and you know, he really did go through
kind of an emotional journey in this episode. I felt like, yeah,
I think he's like trying to find himself still. I
guess all of you guys are truly, but who isn't
I meant in the episode, Oh yeah, but touche we
(22:55):
just I mean, and Andrea was just really who she
comes at you man, I wouldn't want to piss off Andrea. Yeah,
but not like scary, just like you and accurate, like
she's got a point. I felt like, um, Jim the
(23:19):
dad Mr Walsh there again in a kind of a
weird helicoptery um like, hey, Musso zipping mus that's awesome.
Oh my god, if you've ever the screeching of Musso
that goes on when because we usually take our dogs
(23:40):
with us to work wherever we go, Buddy and Musso
so they can see each other. And Musso is notorious
bar yapping and anyone that comes around, he's like the
guard dog and she Tori will just scream, go ahead,
do it for all the listeners give him the Musso screech. Well,
(24:03):
first of all, it usually goes to are you gonna
do anything? Like are you gonna saying yeah, because you'll
sit there and he'll just be yapping, and the guy
ever starking at will be like back like yeah, Musso musto,
and they're like, are you just gonna sit there? You
have to do something or you're not gonna do something?
And then I'm like, oh, it's very enjoyable. Yeah, didn't
(24:26):
it hurt, like like the core of your brain when
you hear that little ball in the back of your
throat Like he stopped. He stopped. He's like mibrato during
bh I know someone ever he hated Brian Austin Green, Like,
why did I just say Brian Austin? He did? He
hated the listeners every time I come around. Remember every day,
(24:47):
he'd be like, it's me. Every time Brian would like,
Brian would say, it's me. Musso, you like me? You
remember like yesterday when we did this, you just saw me.
We just went through this every day. It's me. But
like he was kind of like kidding and like the
(25:08):
dry sense, but the same thing every day day and Musso.
I literally at the end of the student I think
Musso was just sing with him. I think he was
just like, oh, I know you, buddy, but good stuff. Sorry.
What were we even talking about before Musso rudely interrupted?
Just the anger between everyone kind of like being up
in a tizzy with all the cheating. You know, we
(25:29):
were talking about Jim. We were talking about Jim. Oh yeah, yes,
he was shame about not a helicopter. Yes, he was
kind of like hovering about the grades, and I felt
I felt pressured from him watching. I felt like, oh my,
I'll never be able to live up to his standards.
That probably was what Brandon felt like that all that
extra pressure. You guys have young kids, Like your kids
(25:53):
are still in elementary school, all of them, right, diapers
so even yet, so you haven't gotten to that. But
when they are in high school, yeah, yeah, when they
are in high school, like things do have to start
getting a little more serious if they want to go
on to college and like whatever they want in their lives.
(26:16):
And sometimes it's hard to like step back and let
them handle it. But I think that Jim needed to
step back, and Cindy was, you know, as always the
voice of reason right there to keep him in line.
While she's barbecuing. Another scene where she's barbecuing, I was like,
this girl is amazing, super mom. She cooks all the time.
(26:38):
I think that's all she did was garden and cook,
garden and cook, Oh my goodness. And they would have
their barbecues in the front yard or was that like
that was the backyard. It's a backyard. I would always
see the car like I was always confused. It was
like on the side, Yeah, there was like a cart
port and then that basketball cart where they the boys
always played basketball was attached to the was this house
(27:00):
owned by you guys? Like could you you guys were
always filming there or no, how did you do the scenes?
They we just used it like one day an episode
in the beginning when we used the Walsh House a lot.
We used to like when we shoot all the scenes
that took place exterior of the Walsh House that day.
Oh wait, so we did you hear this news? So
(27:22):
in a previous episode. I think you said that. Now
how they're just used to it and they welcome people, right,
but apparently they're still mad about it. There's still like
annoyed that people come there. They are because our our
number one super fan, Darren Martin, who knows everything nine
(27:43):
o two one bro knows everything about the show. He said, Uh,
last time they all went there when Brian was having
his podcast and they drove by, they were like, no,
you can't come into They couldn't come past the street.
Really yeah, well maybe they sold it to new people, didn't,
didn't I hear? He said? No, Darren say that, No,
(28:03):
it was not new owners. Maybe I might be speaking
at it. I kind of remember him saying something about
it was new own, new owners that weren't worn as
um excited. Okay, okay that maybe yeah, No, I don't know.
So it was all engines used for exterior. Any interior
was in vanuy correct set my world being crushed in
(28:25):
the bubble. Jenny refers to the box we were locked
in ten years next to the porn, next to the porn,
the good old day, good time, Oh my gosh. But
we left when we would go to that that location though,
And shoot, I loved going to that location in Altadena
because it was like it was beautiful. It was like
(28:47):
you were kind of out of l a a little bit.
And it's just remember we would like sit on the
front lawn in between takes and like just talk and
oh my gosh, I'll never forget the I don't even
know why this is coming up, but I'm having like
this vivid memory of we were filming at the wallsh
House and we were sitting on the front lawn the
day the O J trial was announced, the verdict, and
(29:12):
they had cameras in our faces and I just remember
being like, don't know a motion like you don't want
to have a response at all, But like I can
remember us all just like sitting in there and we
were like watching this old TV and like seeing what
was happening. Wow, that's a good memorizy. I mean, I
think we all remember where we were for that. I
don't long as you were there. You were sitting right
(29:35):
next to me. Apparently I was on the Walshlan. I
don't know if we talked about this, because we chatted
a little bit before we started the podcast. Did we
talk about Brenda's hair and the wig? We didn't. We
just I just said it never let your friend do
your hair. But yeah, that was a bad die job.
But the like the frizziness was so accurate to what
(29:57):
it would be like as a brunette because I tried.
I dyed my hair blonde when I was in high
school and I went to the grocery store and I
bought the blonde box because I was like, well, it's
gonna be blonde. And then it was like the picture
and you guys son and it would turn your hair orange? Yes,
why why do you want to be a blonde? Though?
I'm curious, like what seeing that Brenda was feeling. It
(30:21):
just felt like it was probably for a boy. It
was probably probably Dylan McKay's fault. Yeah, you see a
Kelly Taylor and you're just like, I want to look
like her. That's so funny because I dyed my hair
dark as soon as the show wrapped. I colored my
hair permanent colored super dark, like dark dark, dark, darker
(30:41):
than your hair, and why and why? Just to escape
because I wanted to experience what it was like to
not be a blonde like I wanted to know the
different album There was a huge difference, let me tell you.
But I went dark in the show. In the show, yeah,
I regret that overly. I think I just feel like Donna.
Donna's like a blonde like she was like, it looks
(31:04):
so beautiful. Though as that I loved that red. I
like it, it just didn't feel like Donna. I wish
I hadn't married David. I wanted to remember Donna and
David the way they met and so in mind, but
it was like at the time, I just remember I
had a manager that was like, um, you know to
do things beyond nine two and oh, you need to
(31:27):
you know, be the girl next door. You need not
to be blonde and platinum, like you need brown hair
and just to be taken seriously as an actress. Did
it work? That didn't work out that? I feel like
that was a really bad wig though on Brenda poor thing,
it was really bad, yeah Champ, though she did good
(31:50):
sport on that one. That wasn't early in the series
of Dylan like, well, we have some emails and some
d ms from people, which I think we should get to. Um,
but let's take a break and we'll come right back. Yeah, wait,
(32:15):
we into emails. No, yeah, you know we have a few,
and I know that we've we've read one already, so
I wanted to pick up this one from thank you
guys for writing in like we love this right and more.
We want to hear what you think about it, bad
or good. We want to hear questions you have for
us upcoming episodes, like let us know. Yeah, that was
like one that we got from Monica where she was like,
(32:35):
can you guys not spoil anything from future seasons for example?
I cannot promise that. But the good to think of
like people, that's so cool that people are jumping in
watching it for the first time with us just kind
of like my husband is truly watching it for the
first time. He's still in love. This good Okay, This
(32:58):
one is from Karen says, how long did you have Well,
there's a few questions, so we'll just break it up.
How long did you have a script before shooting? Good question, Karen,
very sensible question. I like it. I know. I'm actually
curious too. We would get like, um, the episode. The
We'll be shooting one episode and then we get the
(33:19):
new episode, sometimes as late as the day before we
started shooting. Um, but sometimes we get it like three
days before we start shooting. Yeah, I mean, there were
there were times when we weren't getting scripts until the
day of shooting, but that was later. How do they
expect you guys to memorize it, because don't you think
there was like a first draft that would come out
(33:41):
like a shooting script, and then it would change radically
I know what she means, like later season. Sometimes things
were rushed and there were notes and we never really
got to look at the first drafts though. Remever, the
first drafts were kind of not for our eyes. And
then they went through and that they would do revisions
(34:02):
what's called revisions, and they would every revision is a
different color. So the script would come out on white paper,
and then you would get your first revision, which was
usually either pink or blue. Um that draft would you
would add those pages to the white one, and then
you would add the pink pages when those came out,
because it kept going through changes. I can't like the
(34:24):
rainbow you see her O C D coming out. This
is what's important to I'm picturing her binders remember things
that she filmed in a show. But she can remember
the order of the color of the order. You gotta
you gotta have the binder. I got to have the binder,
and much I love you. You got to take out
the white ones, put in the blue ones right in there,
(34:47):
and then you close their back up until you get
your new ones. So exciting. I never did that. They
just all sat in my room that they didn't even
open them, open them piled up. How had I learn
my lines? Yeah, Like I have like a photographic memory,
(35:08):
so I'm good at learning lines. Like spending time online
isn't good for me because I'll forget it by the
time I get there. For me, it's easier to like
look it up, pick it up, and move on. To
the next scene. Yeah, me too, Okay. Her next question
was how hard is it to memorize the scene? I
was just saying this, like, I feel like because I've
used my short term memory so much, meaning that like
(35:30):
instant recall looking at something on paper one time, looking
and picking it up and then going and reciting it
in the scene. I've used my short term memory so
much that that kind of, you know, I've been shadowed
my long term memories. Maybe that's part of it. Is
that your story and you're sticking to it. I mean
it works. Yeah, that's crazy. We were we were we
(35:54):
would literally like just like look at it. We didn't.
They were little. We had the little side because they
would staple it together, all your scenes and all the sides,
and they were little. Now why would they make them little,
like why would they make I don't know, instead of
full sized pages like of a regular It doesn't make sense.
Names very round in your pocket. But now like we're
(36:15):
old and we all have to have it food please,
and we all like on beach and I don't know,
it was a joke. I think we added it to
a scene because we thought it was so funny that
we all needed huge fond printed out and nobody used
the many pages anymore. That is hysterical. And back then
(36:40):
we had all had perfect vision and yeah, we like
glanced at it once and be like, oh a paragraph.
Yeah I haven't memorized, let's go. Our next question was
who in particular would be more likely to forget their
lines or always had bloopers or reduce. I feel like
we all had her share, but I know I'd definitely
forgot my lines a lot. There were times I remember
(37:04):
being in the middle of the scene and just flatlining,
like completely losing track of what we were doing, where
we were, what was was supposed to be happening, and
that they would be like there she goes and she
would and she'd and she'd like freeze and like pursonal
lips look around and she'd be like, I got nothing?
(37:25):
What nothing? So funny. But in general, I feel like
everyone was pretty on it with their lines. Yeah, I
mean because we did. We didn't. It wasn't like I
would go home and maybe peruse the next day's work
before I would go to sleep, or before I worked
that the day before. But it wasn't like a go
home and sit down and study and you know, break
(37:46):
it all down very often their room for improv or
did you guys really stick to the lines always? We
were pretty good about they made a stick tight to that. Yeah.
First at first we could add in little inflections, are
little like you know, flavors here and there. But we
definitely had to get their words across. And I don't
think it even it didn't even really enter our minds
(38:10):
to want to improve or that we could. Yeah, we
just like must say the words as written like robots.
I feel like a lot of the I feel like
the boys would put in a little like they would
do their handshakes and add like equivalent of like what
the new word like bro is. Everything was mapped out
for you guys from the lines to like the physical
(38:32):
acting and all that as well. No, no, no, I'm
saying like the guys like any of the handshakes, like
the that was whatever came down to a little like
high fives that the boys did like their head. We
did that too. We we brought our own flavor to
they did all our stuff. We did too. Though. I
feel like the writers were so great about writing to
(38:55):
all of our individual sort of voices because they really
listen to the way we talked to each other and
they they still listen. It was really great to see
that happened. We didn't even know what was happening. Don't
you feel like you didn't know what was happening? But
then all of a sudden, like Donna and Kelly turned
(39:16):
into Torrey and Jenny, but we didn't know. It was
like they just did it, like like like a little
like puppeteers behind the scenes, like the Wizard of Oz,
like all knowing were watching us listening all the time.
Pretty cool, Like it didn't occur to us at the time,
like oh, our characters are evolving more into us and
becoming more of us, Like we can look back now
(39:38):
and see it, but at the time we didn't know.
It was just like I felt, right, maybe they had
one specific person to easedrop on you guys at all time.
That was their job the notes. Who is that person?
Maybe it's maybe that was the same person that told
Jessica Alba not to look us in the eyes. We
don't know, We will never know, but we will never
let that go. One more question from Karen. She really
(40:01):
had a lot of them for wardrobe. Did you choose
your outfits or did someone select that for you. I
feel like we've touched on, touched on this before. But
speaking of outfits, before we answer that your little tummy,
what was that was the cutest little shirt you were
wearing in the school, in the classroom. It barely went
below your boobs and your entire midriff was out so
(40:25):
tan and taught and cute. She called me tat talt.
Those were the days I didn't even appreciate it. Then
I was like, oh, look at that. It's something to
see little Tom Tom. Yeah, she was a good one.
(40:50):
She's been through a lot now she's still a good one.
And another one of the fashion moments was like Steve,
every scene he had a new oh Glee shirt on.
He had so many shirt changes in this episode. And
then it was just like Highways of jeans with a
belt and another big blousy, ugly shirt, big blousy collar. Sure,
(41:14):
I feel like like it was like almost Pirates of
Penzance kind of ish, but like mixed with like what
it was like, I don't know, I don't know what's happening.
It was like bad, you know, like when you think
of like a comedy, a stand up comic back in
the nineties, that's what he dressed like, but that was
the style back then. But like apparently, like so here
(41:37):
back to your question, like we did have say in it,
and more and more as the show progressed. I think
in the first you know, the pilot, we let them
do whatever they wanted. We didn't know they were not
us first episode as well. But as I started to progress,
you know, they started to figure out our individual styles,
what worked best on our bodies, what we liked. Um,
(41:58):
but we definitely could say, like, know, that doesn't work
for me. Like, it's not like you had to wear it.
There was a big room, big room full of clothes,
and they would kind of separate it. That means the
iron pick those shirts. He gravitated right towards them. Yeah,
would it be day of or did you guys go
(42:18):
a separate day and do No. You had to do
a fitting for every episode, and they were gruesome. They
were like marathons sometimes because sometimes a lot of changes
in the next episode, and so while we're filming the
episode before, we would have to go in and do
your wardrobe fitting for the next episode, sometimes during your
lunch hour after work, like early it was Yeah, it
(42:41):
was it's always a lot. Wardrobe is a really tricky,
challenging part of acting, I think more so than people
even think, because it takes a lot of energy and
planning and you know, wardrobe stylists and coordinators or they
have a lot of work to do and then the
actor comes in it's like, I don't like that. Yeah,
that's what they've done so much work. Yeah, but we
(43:05):
there was. It was a lot of a lot of
clothes we went through on that show Man. What's so
crazy is that the majority of it is back in
style in that wish I could go into that room
now it looks like H and M or top Shop.
Right now, that's all the styles that are crazy. Do
(43:28):
you think they linger into one. Do you guys have
any New Year's resolutions? Oh? Good questions? New Year's resolutions,
it's happening. We're getting the hell out of people, let's
hear it. I mean that right there is like I
don't even think we need resolutions for the year. You
(43:50):
know what? Crazy enough? I know was horrific on so
many levels for so many people. Um, but there were
moments of it they gave us pause to kind of
go back to what was important, the simpler things. In
life like Quarantine as awful as it was, like, let
us be with our family. Sometimes life moves really fast.
(44:12):
Who didn't fare Spuelers say that, and you don't get
that moment um for Jen and I like we started
a lot of passion projects in um we had time
to kind of do that and really get our our
ducks lined up. That is going to be really amazing. Yeah, yeah,
I feel like one, I mean, it's got to be
better than So there's that everybody's starting off, you know,
(44:37):
in the in the positive. Yeah, I think I think
we all have like a new mindset, like you said, Tori,
because of what we went through this year. And I
know what's like more important versus like I was just
going a hundred miles per hour two before we all paused.
So and it really doesn't. It's like a lesson and
like you don't like you don't, it doesn't matter what
your resolution is, because going to be whatever, it's going
(45:00):
to be, right, You've got no control. Yeah, Remember like
every year you'd be like, this is going to be
the best year, best year, Like I feel like none
of us are saying that anymore because of what happened.
We were like we had no idea. You know, we're
ringing in whoa, it's gonna be the best year, and
then everyone's like whoa. So now we're just like just like,
(45:22):
just take it as it comes and go the flow.
Be in the moment, be with your loved ones, focus
on the things that are important and good for you,
and keep you safe and just go with it and
see what happens. That's my resolution. I love that. Like that, Well, ladies,
(45:44):
I think it's time to wrap it up and no, no,
oh my gosh, wait, this is it. This is it. Yeah,
this is our last. This year. Homework assignment will be
to watch episode seven, Episode seven coming up next week, everybuddy,
do your homework. Oh my gosh. So by yeah. I
(46:06):
always love it at the end of of a year
when you and you're done working or seeing people and
you can say, okay, see you next year. So it's
really like in a week, oh my god. And this
was like one of those years they're like, hope's here
next year for what's going to happen. But we're there,
We're gonna get through it. It's going to happen, so
(46:26):
we will. We will definitely see you next year. Um,
be safe. See you next year, O m G
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