July 27, 2023 • 37 mins
He gets recognized as Roy Randolph to this day. Jason Carter aka Roy Randolph recalls how (and why) he got the part. He shares with Tori and Jennie that he was nervous to do the podcast and reveals his experience acting opposite Shannen Doherty.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nine oh Gene onegin with Jenny Garth and Tory spelling. Okay,
Today on another installment of nine O two one on one,
we have another amazing guest star with us. We have
Jason Carter. We have Jason Carter.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You guys who played the one and only Roy Randolph.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yes, he was in season four of Beverly Hill ZENA
two and oh and uh he was a controversial character.
So let's find out all about Roy Randolph.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Jason, are you there?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Hello, silver Fox.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Silver Fox. That's right, that's me Hello that hi.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh my goodness, it's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes it does.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We have just thirteen reveriting the Roy Randolph episodes on
our podcast Season four. You made quite a splash, quite
an impression on all the ladies in the show. But now,
as Tory and I are watching the show back for
the first time and seeing what really happened, you know,
from a from a viewer's fans perspective, we have to
(01:15):
tell you Roy Randolph's given us kind of creepy vibes.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What do you think I mean, I think he's sexy,
but she means in like how it plays out.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, you're a little close for comfort with the with
the co eds there.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I think I think I was. I think I was
playing the theatrical camp so it's not quite bad guy,
but in charge. I don't know it was. It's been
a long time. I'm supposed to remember this stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well back then it was a different day.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean, right, yeah, yeah, I'm wearing this shirt because
this actually is a nineties shirt, as you can tell
from the collar. I've had the thirty years and not worn.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh you dressed for the show. I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's amazing. Well, everything that's nine days back in so
you looked on trends, you looked very current.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Look at you.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
He is.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Making an effort, you know what. And we appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
You had such your your character on the show. Did
you have you been able to rewatch any of the
episodes that you were in?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
No, did you.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Ever see them?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes? I did? Yes, I did. I know I'm a
terrible man.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
No, good, don't watch. Let us tell you what you did?
And then no comment.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So obviously you were the director.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It started with a chat on a hot tin roof
that the girls were all auditioning for and.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Met who was it? Kelly was auditioning Brenda was auditioning
and Laura.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It was funny because when I got the notification for
the casting to go to go and auditioned.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
For it, Oh yeah, tell us.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It was being a r S director who was directing
on Broadway and was taking some time off and everything
like that, and the horror director and then at the
time with Peter Hall and Trevor Nan and all of
that lot, they all had goate's and long hair, which
is what I had, so.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Perfect, absolutely perfect for that part.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
We walked in and They're like, nailed it for we
even hear the scene. Did you so you came in audition?
Did you audition for my Dad? Do you?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yes? Yes? I did, Yes, I did, And it was
it was a straight I had just happened to be
one of my first roles in America because I just
moved to America and my Asian already had an agent
here from History. But and I was being sent up
for auditions and I got sent up for this one.
And I turned out and I'm wearing I've just come
from London, and I'm in London kind of actor style,
(03:51):
and I've got this huge military black coat on in
Los Angeles and I'm wearing this thing. I don't know
why I'm wearing this thing, and uh. And I was
staring out the window because the view from the office
was so great, and I think your dad walked in
and I said, oh, a great view, and then turned
back to the view. I was so kind of like
(04:12):
this was a whole new world as a consequence of
which I don't know. I think I I just accidentally
nailed it.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't think it was an accident.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Would you like to read for us, because I'm still
looking out of the window. I took my coat off,
put my coat on the couch, sat down on the couch,
picked up the pages. It was just it was, it was.
It worked very well. For some strange reason, I kind.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Of wish you had watched the episode back because I
want to ask you who you thought should have played
the role of Maggie if it was cast properly with Brenda,
or was it or.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It was Jenny who kind of came into the mix
because she was just you kind of got talked into it.
You were just going to read for another role, not
the main role in then Laura Kingman, the other one
who goes cuckoo, who literally this rule was everything to her.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
That's right, that's right. Now I recalled who do I
think should have played it right?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And I think you can't really answer that it was
exactly the person. We do think that Shannon did an
amazing job.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, because the whole point about it
is is that, I mean, even from Roy Randolphstanity, seeing
what could be expressed by this person given the given
the right coaxing.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm just curious. So Kelly kind of came in just
was Ernest did it and nailed it right, right, and
then all of a sudden, Brenda goes to his place.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yes, Brenda knock knock knocks on on Roy Randolph's door
at night.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yes, yes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
How did she get.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Er not to do that?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yes? I think that's frowned upon these days. But I wonder,
we wonder what happened? What happened when she went into
Roy Randolph's house, right, because she got the role right
after that she did she did what?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh that's right, So you're asking me to speculate on
what may or may not have happened.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I can't imagine Roy Randolph doing anything terror like terror.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I feel like she gave another audition and just knocked
his socks off.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, I will just just the sheer audacity to even
come round to his house.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It's scary. Expressly expressed, you were terrified.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Every then you didn't know where this was going. How
did she?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Did you know? Did you know at that point? I don't,
None of us knew. But did you know that your
character was kind of being used to have Shannon's Brenda's
storyline separate from everybody else's And did you know that?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
What? I was completely unacquainted with the show. I just
arrived in America. I'm going for an audition for show.
I don't know whatever, I'm going for it, and then
I get the part, and then I'm thrust into the
middle of it with you guys on a sound stage
similar to the sound stage that we had in Babylon five.
As it wasn't a sound stage, you have to stop.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
At that time, it was not soundproof, no from LA
so you probably didn't know, but you were working in
at a time.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It's nice now, but thirty three years ago, a very
seedy area that was on It wasn't a sound stage,
it was an abandoned warehouse they turned into one, and
right next door they filmed porn.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Oh really, yeah, I missed that. I mean, you guys
check that out. I didn't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, the boys were all over that, but we weren't.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
We were like, that's fun.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I love it that you didn't. You didn't know about
the show because the show was not popular overseas at
that time. Before it was.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It was the nineties. It was the most creative decade
I think occurred. It was a brilliant time to be
in Los Angeles. I mean I consequently went on It's
funny you stay, I was creepy and everything like that.
I consequently went on to play a bunch of bad
guys in Guests Evil.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You're so damn good at it.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Well, it's I think it's the trick is that maybe
it's the European thing to be able to get Hello Darling.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Right and then I mean, you're so iconic and known
for Babylon five obviously, but did you ever get recognized? Yes,
Roy Randolph, you did, Okay, like people were in public.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Okay, a very popular show, and it would come out
of left field. I wouldn't be expecting it. Oh you know,
they get you. You're you were on nine o two
or no, and for some reason the character had such
an impact on the world because it was the end
of episodes, at the end of the season, and Nike
I thought I was a new regular. Did you an invitation?
(09:10):
I was. I don't know. I got an invitation to
go to Nike and pick out some clothes nice promise
to wear them in interviews?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Remember that those days, Jen, Oh yeah, we got the
same back then with a good old day Nike.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. No, it was.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Do people ever come up and say, if it wasn't
for you, Brenda wouldn't be off the show because she
chose this acting off.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
London mobody seems to know that I didn't sleep with her,
even after all the shows played.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Fans think it, Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So because because it's not clear, it's unresolved, it's it's
it's and then oh, please go to London to my
my my drama school. Did I run her?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Where in the we never see her again? So what
have you done with Brenda?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
What if they ended up getting married and had what
beautiful Brandon marriage, that's what you think happened?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Well, I was looking up because just before I do
the podcast I think I was on the German side
or whatever. But there's kind of fan fiction about that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
There is tell us, tell us, tell us this is
so cool.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
No, no, no, it was five minutes. I just not
noticed that while you're checking it out.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So there is fan fiction. Sorry, we actually do not
know about this.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I didn't read it. I didn't read it, but it
was intimated that there was fiction, so I didn't click
on the link because I was busy. Oh what am
I doing? And I'll tell you something. It's if only
having been an acceor all my life here. Sorry, more
nervous about this than anything else.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Guys, Well it was everything you've done. You're nervous about this.
We're just low hanging fruit. No, what do you mean nervous?
What do you mean nervous?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
No, I don't know it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Just blushing? Are you blushing? Jason Carter?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
No, I don't think so. I might be. I might
be hot, but flushed. That's right when I'm talking to babes.
What can I do remaining professional?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah? Please? Please? So you moved just before this to America,
to Los Angeles, and you've stayed here ever since.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yes, funny, isn't people? In fact? I think that happened
at the beginning, which is why we've got America point
out to people. You do realize that America was founded
by a bunch of Brits saying no to George, that's
Americans suddenly magically appeared.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You just came a little late.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yes, yes, that's right. Fine, I came there, so I'm
a late immigrant.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
And you've had such a crazy, like just fulfilling career.
You've done so much, many different projects, like.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, it's been well, it's it's yes, I think I
think I did all my theater in London and then
I came to America and didn't do theater ever again.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Really is that sad in you?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You can't really compare the theater here to the here
in London.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, I was in Los Angeles so at the time
during the nineties. I don't know what it's like now,
but it was basically a bunch of actors doing shows
for casting directors to see them and cast them in television. Yeah,
like Showcase, and half the audience would leave in the interval.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Once you moved here, you never did anymore. Once you
moved to America, you never did any more work In Britain.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, wow, so you walked quite a lot before you came.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Oh well, I was lucky enough to do the West
End four times National Theater.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Do you miss being on stage? Though?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
There's a time of life thing. Do I miss anything?
Do I? What I do is I Actually, I'm very
grateful to having had experienced it. I know what it's
like to walk out in front of two thousand people
in a character. The hardest thing, the hardest thing, no
stage right there. The hardest thing was when you know
the science fiction thing, Babylon five, whatever that you know
(13:35):
from your fan base, When you have to step out
on a stage as yourself, it's a very strange experience.
Worst the first time I did it, I had no
idea what to do. And I don't know whether you
know him, great actor Peter Jurassica was in Babylon five
on my first audition, on my first convention, I followed
him out on stage. Well, he spoke for forty minutes
(13:57):
without fielding a question. He just talked me. I just
stood there like animal gon any questions.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh, that's like our Jason Priestley. I remember the first
time we were at the Emmy's and Jen and I
were going to present. Jason was doing something before and
we were so nervous because you know, talking as yourself
in front of and people are like, what do you mean?
You're an actor?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You can do it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I said to Jason, are you nervous? And He's like, Nah,
this doesn't bother me at all. And I was like,
this is the hardest part.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Well, yeah, he's a special case. I think it was.
It was a weird because it was a weird experience
because we're on for an out. We had an hour
to talk to the crowd. This was in London, and.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
He took forty five minutes of it.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Well he did forty five minutes without fielding a question,
and then and then it was my hour and I
was on next after was all the cars were there.
I went on an accent and I got to about
thirty minutes in and said, anybody got.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Any more questions, that would be me too.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Do you want to hear a poem?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I want to hear a poem, I.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Said some of my I started saying to myself of
my parents, I write a drama school.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Wow, you could say anything to me right now. I
could listen to you.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Oh well, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Okay, So did you have kids?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Did I have kids? This does a question that we
have after we've crossed the threshold and with death. So
how was your life?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Did you have kids? I've just told you live with
your family, but.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
A bit of romantic rock and roll historically, but.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I have How old is.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Ever? So? I mean nearly forty thirty five and oh
I have to do the numbers on that one. But
you starting, I had two. I had two sons in London,
and I had a daughter in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay, so very young okay.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And unfortunately divorces followed eventually. I'm not one a bad, bad, bad,
bad bad man, but I am happily married and with
an Albuquerque.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Oh wonderful, just at the foot of.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
The San Dia Mountains, so I can.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Go from there. When'd you move to Albuquerque?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Uh? You about a year ago? Still getting used to
the lack of oxygen here because of course you're a
mile high. So the air is very thin. Wow much,
it's sunny from most of the year, and it's not d.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well, it's not one And then wait, so uh why where?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Why there? Though?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Why there? That's it's a weird one. It's interestingly enough,
a friend of mine from thirty years ago in Los
Angeles had moved to Albuquerque, and he s, hey, you
ferenty moving to Albuquerque so we can hang out and
everything like that. I thought about it living louis the
end of the time and moved and we moved. I
told my wife about it, and she she was looking
(16:54):
at the idea and thinking about it and didn't tell me.
She applied for a job, got a job in Albuquerque.
Can she moved four months before I did.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's wild, so we're just ready for a change.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, it had come to the point. Yeah, this is interesting.
So it's a weird story of me in America. I've
lived in the low desert Los Angeles, I've lived, then
I moved to Michigan so serious winters, then Louisiana and
so that's the swamp. And now I'm in the high desert,
(17:26):
so low desert whatever you call Michigan lake country.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And I feel like you need to move to the
Pacific Northwest next.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
That's a pretty good idea, just certainly.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, so you can play.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
If there's time.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well, we keep talking about your past, what are you
going on now?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Tell us, no, I'm actually I'm happily contemplatively looking back
and not particularly worried about the future. And yes, I
did the outrageous thing. I'm sixty two. I retired. Doesn't
mean I can't work as an actress.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Enough, Wait, we can do that at sixty two, Can
we do it?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You can technically do it? Yeah, I mean I didn't
reize I could get a discount on the bus when
I was fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But hey, the other day I wanted the movies with
my daughter and she bought me a senior citizen ticket.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Oh but that's the weird thing. And I get so
upset now when I'm in the supermarket and no one
wants to ide me that happened.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You're just there, living in the now.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I suppose. So I suppose. I suppose that. I suppose
that's the thing I've always done, which is why I've
just been responsive to life rather than having any plans.
Just like what doors appear, and then I go through
them if they appear, but they might not appear for
a very long time, and then they appear it or not,
what we'll see.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You giving her anxiety.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
She's a planner I'm a planner, but I'm the same
way as you. I've never I've never had goals or
plan as far as like what I want to do
next with my life. So I love that that.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Don't promise yourself. It's like Christ thinks something. But don't
promise yourself anything, and you won't disappoint yourself. If you
set goals, you can fail your goals. Now says they
never promise anybody anything, and then you'll never disappoint anybody.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, as a parent, that's a good one to practice.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Whatever I mean, that's it sounds like you have beautiful
life though.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Well I do know, yeah, like most Well, I mean happiness,
this is for everybody. Happiness is a choice, no small print,
no read this book, no do this. It's a choice.
It's a choice. What did you just say happiness is
(19:53):
a choice.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh my god, I am so embarrassed, Jason Carter. I
did not hear happiness for whatever reason, it came out
pens and but Jen usually would react and she didn't,
And I was like, guys, I don't know what's happening
right now.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Is just a quote. People, he said happiness is a choice.
I thought he.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Said, my penis is a choice, and then he wanted.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's my awful accent? Or is when I got to
Los Angeles and I'm meeting casting directors. Yeah he's great,
but can he lose the accent?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Can you? Can you lose your accent?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Do let me do it?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Talking like American? We just put him on a spot.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
That's all I was about. Southerner. If I okay, just.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Say I'm living in Albuquerque with my wife, say that
in like American.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I'm living in Albuquerque with my wife.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
No, pretty good. No, I heard it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I heard the wife she did. I I love that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
You admit you can't though.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But the thing is, people say I've lived there for
thirty two years or whatever it is or more, and
people said, you haven't lost your accent.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Why would you?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Because yeah, why would I? Because here's it's different. It's
very common where I come from and where I come
from people that go, oh, I love your accent. They
don't do that, No, but they do here, so so
why would they change it? Also, Also, the nineties was
great because I did your show playing a very nice man,
but I did play a lot of villains and at
(21:32):
the time during the nineties, British villains were in in
a big way, you know, like the bad guys speaking
charmingly and not taking your gun out but just going
hello down everywhere else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sinister, but in
a charming way, you know, darling villainry, which is what
you know, the Alan Rickman territory of life and camp villainry.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You're so sexy. Sorry, tell your wife, I apologize.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
We thank you. Goodness me ah.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
You can I ask you one question?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Please do so you did do a lot of comedy,
but you were on and tell us about your experience
on Third Rock from the Sun.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
That was actually a marvelous experience. And I was very
lucky to have gone for that audition at that time
because they had had they cast it three times before me.
I didn't know this and hadn't got the right person.
Because they're the comedians. They're looking for something to launch from,
some spring from. So I had the chain smoking, roll
(22:39):
up poet London guy, which I can easily do. But
I got cast. I got cast pretty much on the
set because they were doing all the auditions at the
studio Columbia. Figures. Can't remember, no, but I'm there and
I'm on the phone outside in a British phone box,
of course, because they decorate sometimes and I'm on the
(22:59):
phone just calling my wife and suddenly there's an assistant
tapping in the window. You've got the job. What you've
got the job? Can you go to wardrobe and makeup? Whoa?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Literally go right there.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It was all Hollywood. It was like you were doing it.
We were in rehears because they rehearsed it, and it
is shot in front of a live audience. And John Lithgow,
the massive, massive John Lifga is the nicest man on
the planet. And it was directed by David Hughes who
was also massive as indeed was what's the name that
the daughter. I can't remember their names now, but they're
(23:33):
all massive, and I was her boyfriend. There's the point
that was the gag, and then they're all chained smoking
and doing poetry. But every single take that John Lithgu
did was different. And the director, John Hughes, I found out,
directed the original Monty Python.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
That hence the relationship with John Clees being on the
shore and stuff like that. But he would just let
John Lift do his stuff. Just Ris.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Kristin Johnston, she's yeah, very tall, oh.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But they were all super lovely and and being their comedians,
they needed something to launch from. So having this chained smoke,
self indulgent of writing the poem about myself to myself,
by writing my poem of myself, it was already just
like all intents and yeah, and they're all chained smoking
and they're all wearing black.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I didn't realize John Lithgow was that tall.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Oh, he's massively tall, and so is that so so
is David Houston, the British director there was Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I love him so much.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Brilliant, so sweet and so in charge, just different, different
stuff coming out of their mouths each time. Great people,
we love that. Yeah, and very welcoming, very gracious, very hello,
Thank you, Ry, you know, very nice. Well, that's good
your show is having like that, But it's very often
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regulars can be total guests.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Which wasn't your experience on the show.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Wasn't your show?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That never happened on our show?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
How did everyone treat you on our set when you
first came on?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Oh? Very well, it was it was you.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Can't transition after seeing these like a less megastars were
amazing and then now be like you guys were okay, no, no.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It was it was. It was fair enough, it was.
It was a weird one because initially I was a
bit of fish at water because everyone had relationships and
it's all going on, and most of my scenes were
with Shannon, and initially, first couple of episodes, Shandon didn't
talk to me. That's fine because I was in my
own world as well, and I was more interested in
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how the camera worked and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Hey, I was young, But why didn't she talk to you?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't know who she talked to, but she didn't
talk to me at the time, but then then the
subsequent episode because I didn't bother Maybe because it didn't
bother me. I was invited to a birthday party, which
was her twenty third birthday party.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think where was it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
It was in a in a nightclub thing in Hollywood,
down by the Grime and Chinese I think theater, and
there was a lot. There was a bunch of fights
there and bouncers. It was a wild one.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I was just a Thursday night out. But okay, are
we talking bar one? Are we talking China Club? Are
we talking Rosy?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
No? I believe me even if i'd gone to those places.
I probably couldn't remember now.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Was I there?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You don't have to remember this, did you?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Did you g I'm serious? Was I there?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I went to the party?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yes, went Jason, but toured. Do you don't you.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Remember was being there?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I goeh? Were we there? We just came about it.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Remember now, it's all overwhelmed by the fact there was
a big fight. I suddenly broke out from our primaries
and don't know what it was. But of course the
tabloids decided there was a reason.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
How did you remember, specifically twenty third birthday? I have
a good memory. I would never remember that.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Maybe because you were so shocked to get the invitation.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, but well it was it was I wonder what was?
It was a weird one, and it was also an
interesting lesson that I had in life because the big
fight was happening. One of the guys who was fing
I actually was. I was. I don't know what it was.
It was the time of my life. I was in
Jesus mode. I don't know, but I grabbed this big, hulking,
massive guy and just I'm holding him a whole him
like this, Like the big man walks away the big
(28:03):
man walks away. You b calmed him down, and he's
trying to the door, and then the bouncers grab him
and the fight starts again because they're violent too.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
There. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I think you would remember a big fight again.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
You'd be typical Thursday night out. No, every time.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Because I got it involved, because I decided to pretend
that I could solve the problem.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
And I feel like you did. You made a difference.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
First second, more than the lost of people went crazy. Yeah,
I was looking for a fight. Don't calm him down.
I didn't say that, but that's it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Gosh, we wish we could.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
It's lovely when she's thinking.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You're talking about me yourself into trouble right now? Wow,
it's just fun to catch up with our producers find it.
Oh my gosh, I have to know where that birthday
party was. I wonder if we'll look it up. Wheat
Was it at the Hollywood Athletic Club?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
It might have been. I was very I was very
new to Los Angeles, so I couldn't have pinned anything down,
but I knew we were down in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think it's coming back to me, But you know,
I don't know this is how her process works about
thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So I hope you have some time. Yeah, what are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I'll get there and then I'll be whoa amazing Okay, anyway,
we'll find out at some point. Okay, I'll slide into
your DMS and not to talk about that, but just kidding.
Jason Carter, do you have Instagram?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I am very bad on all those social things. Yes
I do. I think I do, but I don't use
it in the same way as I don't use Twitter,
which I also have. Yeah, what's going on? Because she
scrolls down and goes gives me the news. But but
I use WhatsApp. That's it. What'sapp with my family? Very
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cool WhatsApp.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
It is what's up? What's upp what'spp what's up? Well,
what's happy you? Then? Yeah, you can what's happened? When
you remember where the bird? I remember the party?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Okay, okay? Or email me. I have my email addresse,
which hasn't changed in thirty years.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
A speeler.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Oh my gosh, don't tell us.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Are you Are you AOL dot com?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Oh, don't react that way. We're proud we are AOL
dot com and it makes us pretty proud it is, even.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Though every time we give it to someone I.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Know historically America online, way back, way back, way back,
way back. Yes, but they're still running, are they there?
You go just now.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
But we can't let it go. It's literally just the
two of us, the habit. I'll never let it go,
will you, Jen?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Nope?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Hold on, what are you looking at, Jason?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I'm looking at Tory Spelling's twenty third birthday and I
can't find it either.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You mean Shannon's Tory Spelling on the brain? Nor?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Sorry? Sorry, I'm old? All right? You young people don't understand.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
We are not that much younger than you. Just know
I want you to We're not.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
It's the great leveling out as you get older. Like
my my younger brother, My youngest brother is seven years
younger than me. Well, when I'm eighteen and he's eleven,
that's a big difference, no relationship whatsoever. But I'm sixty
two he's fifty five. Were the same age.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It happens.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And don't you like what age do you feel even
though you're sixty five? How old do you feel?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
We all have that number.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Are you prepared for some Jason kind of thought wisdom
things is that some people get old. Bear with this one.
Some people get old and turn into old men. Other
people just become decrepit. That I'm that model. I will
always be Jason, but the vehicle will fall apart.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
But some people, Wait, you just called yourself decrepit.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah yeah, yah, yeah yeah, but but but I'm not decrepit.
But I'm just saying my vehicle will fall apart, right,
but I will still be driving it. Some people turn
into something else. Some people become old people. I don't
know what it is. I've met loads of old people
who didn't you get a point. Yes, you remain You're
(32:50):
the same driver. You're the you guys have been driving
for the years you have. I can see you're the
same drivers.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I don't think Tori and I will ever become old
people in.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
My no, but that that's the point.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And emotionally.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
The weird lesson for this was during COVID. Yes, I've
done some strange jobs. I was a working for a
wine liquor store and as a delivery driver in Louisiana
during COVID. Okay, and I had to go.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
That was that was a necessity for people.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Nobody was on the road, so the police weren't stopping anybody,
because who was going to stop anybody? You'd have to
talk to them. So we were the heroes of the
road in the medical profession, delivering liquor in Louisiana, in
loss in New Orleans, of course, but because of the law,
I would have to ask them for their birthday and
the holding their license up to their window, like how
(33:49):
dare you come to my door? You ordered the liquor?
But old people. I see old men, and I know
I'm twenty years older than them. They're in the forties.
But they had they appeared to be old. They had set,
they had set, they had become, they had stopped. Unfortunate.
(34:14):
So I'm My father died when he was seventy one,
ten years ago. But my mother said at his funeral,
isn't as Brian, Brian has his name Brian? Or is it?
Because I always used to say to Brian, growing up
is optional? Growing up is optional?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, very wise words, Jason.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I stole him. I stole them.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
One last thing though, to Jen's point, because there is
I feel like we all have that one number stuck
in our head, like you remember yourself at and for
some reason is there an age.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Well, I suppose it's going to actually be the most
consequential period of your life as well as that sound.
And that would have probably been when I went to
Grammar School when I was twenty. I mean I was
there when I was eighteen to twenty one, but I
was at Lambda, not the Royal had Me Acting school,
which of course was invented by Peter Frere. He sent
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me the shirt.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Oh my god, I wondered why you had that shirt.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Of course, Peter is okay, amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah, I was playing Roy Randolph now and I did
it totally camp and I wore wore top hat. Really,
I was directing epic productions and I'd married somebody who
had a stately home.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I just had an epiphany.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Wait, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
What if this had.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Happened to you, guys, because I keep bringing up Brenda
went there and married you or whatever and had babies.
But in the final episode that we ever see Brenda Walsh,
she says to Dylan, give me something to come back to,
and we allude to the fact that they make love
one last time. But if we were to allude to
(35:53):
the fact that when she went to get the part
for Maggie the cat. She made love with Roy Randolph,
then technically she could go away and she could have
come baby and be pregnant or have a baby. But
we don't know who the father is. It could be
Dylan or it could be Roy Randolph. Oh, my dad
would be so proud, right now.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
That's right. I don't know. Wow, this is obviously an
adventure that could have happened.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Oh my god, these things that will never know. This
is sad, but it's so great to catch up with you,
so much to see you and you will forever be
Roy Randolph.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
You're wonderfully nice. Thank you, and you're looking great.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Guys, thank you. I apologize to your wife that I
seem to have hit on you. I wasn't. I just
appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Hey, you can hit tell me anytime.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Sorry, all right, Thank you so much. Jon, Bye, Jason.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Two
It's nine oh Gene onegin with Jenny Garth and Tory spelling. Okay,
Today on another installment of nine O two one on one,
we have another amazing guest star with us. We have
Jason Carter. We have Jason Carter.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You guys who played the one and only Roy Randolph.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yes, he was in season four of Beverly Hill ZENA
two and oh and uh he was a controversial character.
So let's find out all about Roy Randolph.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Jason, are you there?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Hello, silver Fox.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Silver Fox. That's right, that's me Hello that hi.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh my goodness, it's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes it does.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We have just thirteen reveriting the Roy Randolph episodes on
our podcast Season four. You made quite a splash, quite
an impression on all the ladies in the show. But now,
as Tory and I are watching the show back for
the first time and seeing what really happened, you know,
from a from a viewer's fans perspective, we have to
(01:15):
tell you Roy Randolph's given us kind of creepy vibes.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What do you think I mean, I think he's sexy,
but she means in like how it plays out.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, you're a little close for comfort with the with
the co eds there.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I think I think I was. I think I was
playing the theatrical camp so it's not quite bad guy,
but in charge. I don't know it was. It's been
a long time. I'm supposed to remember this stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well back then it was a different day.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean, right, yeah, yeah, I'm wearing this shirt because
this actually is a nineties shirt, as you can tell
from the collar. I've had the thirty years and not worn.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh you dressed for the show. I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's amazing. Well, everything that's nine days back in so
you looked on trends, you looked very current.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Look at you.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
He is.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Making an effort, you know what. And we appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
You had such your your character on the show. Did
you have you been able to rewatch any of the
episodes that you were in?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
No, did you.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Ever see them?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes? I did? Yes, I did. I know I'm a
terrible man.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
No, good, don't watch. Let us tell you what you did?
And then no comment.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So obviously you were the director.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It started with a chat on a hot tin roof
that the girls were all auditioning for and.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Met who was it? Kelly was auditioning Brenda was auditioning
and Laura.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It was funny because when I got the notification for
the casting to go to go and auditioned.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
For it, Oh yeah, tell us.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It was being a r S director who was directing
on Broadway and was taking some time off and everything
like that, and the horror director and then at the
time with Peter Hall and Trevor Nan and all of
that lot, they all had goate's and long hair, which
is what I had, so.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Perfect, absolutely perfect for that part.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
We walked in and They're like, nailed it for we
even hear the scene. Did you so you came in audition?
Did you audition for my Dad? Do you?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yes? Yes? I did, Yes, I did, And it was
it was a straight I had just happened to be
one of my first roles in America because I just
moved to America and my Asian already had an agent
here from History. But and I was being sent up
for auditions and I got sent up for this one.
And I turned out and I'm wearing I've just come
from London, and I'm in London kind of actor style,
(03:51):
and I've got this huge military black coat on in
Los Angeles and I'm wearing this thing. I don't know
why I'm wearing this thing, and uh. And I was
staring out the window because the view from the office
was so great, and I think your dad walked in
and I said, oh, a great view, and then turned
back to the view. I was so kind of like
(04:12):
this was a whole new world as a consequence of
which I don't know. I think I I just accidentally
nailed it.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't think it was an accident.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Would you like to read for us, because I'm still
looking out of the window. I took my coat off,
put my coat on the couch, sat down on the couch,
picked up the pages. It was just it was, it was.
It worked very well. For some strange reason, I kind.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Of wish you had watched the episode back because I
want to ask you who you thought should have played
the role of Maggie if it was cast properly with Brenda,
or was it or.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It was Jenny who kind of came into the mix
because she was just you kind of got talked into it.
You were just going to read for another role, not
the main role in then Laura Kingman, the other one
who goes cuckoo, who literally this rule was everything to her.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
That's right, that's right. Now I recalled who do I
think should have played it right?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And I think you can't really answer that it was
exactly the person. We do think that Shannon did an
amazing job.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, because the whole point about it
is is that, I mean, even from Roy Randolphstanity, seeing
what could be expressed by this person given the given
the right coaxing.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm just curious. So Kelly kind of came in just
was Ernest did it and nailed it right, right, and
then all of a sudden, Brenda goes to his place.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yes, Brenda knock knock knocks on on Roy Randolph's door
at night.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yes, yes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
How did she get.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Er not to do that?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yes? I think that's frowned upon these days. But I wonder,
we wonder what happened? What happened when she went into
Roy Randolph's house, right, because she got the role right
after that she did she did what?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh that's right, So you're asking me to speculate on
what may or may not have happened.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I can't imagine Roy Randolph doing anything terror like terror.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I feel like she gave another audition and just knocked
his socks off.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, I will just just the sheer audacity to even
come round to his house.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It's scary. Expressly expressed, you were terrified.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Every then you didn't know where this was going. How
did she?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Did you know? Did you know at that point? I don't,
None of us knew. But did you know that your
character was kind of being used to have Shannon's Brenda's
storyline separate from everybody else's And did you know that?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
What? I was completely unacquainted with the show. I just
arrived in America. I'm going for an audition for show.
I don't know whatever, I'm going for it, and then
I get the part, and then I'm thrust into the
middle of it with you guys on a sound stage
similar to the sound stage that we had in Babylon five.
As it wasn't a sound stage, you have to stop.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
At that time, it was not soundproof, no from LA
so you probably didn't know, but you were working in
at a time.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It's nice now, but thirty three years ago, a very
seedy area that was on It wasn't a sound stage,
it was an abandoned warehouse they turned into one, and
right next door they filmed porn.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Oh really, yeah, I missed that. I mean, you guys
check that out. I didn't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, the boys were all over that, but we weren't.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
We were like, that's fun.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I love it that you didn't. You didn't know about
the show because the show was not popular overseas at
that time. Before it was.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It was the nineties. It was the most creative decade
I think occurred. It was a brilliant time to be
in Los Angeles. I mean I consequently went on It's
funny you stay, I was creepy and everything like that.
I consequently went on to play a bunch of bad
guys in Guests Evil.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You're so damn good at it.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Well, it's I think it's the trick is that maybe
it's the European thing to be able to get Hello Darling.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Right and then I mean, you're so iconic and known
for Babylon five obviously, but did you ever get recognized? Yes,
Roy Randolph, you did, Okay, like people were in public.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Okay, a very popular show, and it would come out
of left field. I wouldn't be expecting it. Oh you know,
they get you. You're you were on nine o two
or no, and for some reason the character had such
an impact on the world because it was the end
of episodes, at the end of the season, and Nike
I thought I was a new regular. Did you an invitation?
(09:10):
I was. I don't know. I got an invitation to
go to Nike and pick out some clothes nice promise
to wear them in interviews?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Remember that those days, Jen, Oh yeah, we got the
same back then with a good old day Nike.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. No, it was.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Do people ever come up and say, if it wasn't
for you, Brenda wouldn't be off the show because she
chose this acting off.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
London mobody seems to know that I didn't sleep with her,
even after all the shows played.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Fans think it, Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So because because it's not clear, it's unresolved, it's it's
it's and then oh, please go to London to my
my my drama school. Did I run her?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Where in the we never see her again? So what
have you done with Brenda?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
What if they ended up getting married and had what
beautiful Brandon marriage, that's what you think happened?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Well, I was looking up because just before I do
the podcast I think I was on the German side
or whatever. But there's kind of fan fiction about that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
There is tell us, tell us, tell us this is
so cool.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
No, no, no, it was five minutes. I just not
noticed that while you're checking it out.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So there is fan fiction. Sorry, we actually do not
know about this.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I didn't read it. I didn't read it, but it
was intimated that there was fiction, so I didn't click
on the link because I was busy. Oh what am
I doing? And I'll tell you something. It's if only
having been an acceor all my life here. Sorry, more
nervous about this than anything else.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Guys, Well it was everything you've done. You're nervous about this.
We're just low hanging fruit. No, what do you mean nervous?
What do you mean nervous?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
No, I don't know it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Just blushing? Are you blushing? Jason Carter?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
No, I don't think so. I might be. I might
be hot, but flushed. That's right when I'm talking to babes.
What can I do remaining professional?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah? Please? Please? So you moved just before this to America,
to Los Angeles, and you've stayed here ever since.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yes, funny, isn't people? In fact? I think that happened
at the beginning, which is why we've got America point
out to people. You do realize that America was founded
by a bunch of Brits saying no to George, that's
Americans suddenly magically appeared.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You just came a little late.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yes, yes, that's right. Fine, I came there, so I'm
a late immigrant.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
And you've had such a crazy, like just fulfilling career.
You've done so much, many different projects, like.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, it's been well, it's it's yes, I think I
think I did all my theater in London and then
I came to America and didn't do theater ever again.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Really is that sad in you?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You can't really compare the theater here to the here
in London.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, I was in Los Angeles so at the time
during the nineties. I don't know what it's like now,
but it was basically a bunch of actors doing shows
for casting directors to see them and cast them in television. Yeah,
like Showcase, and half the audience would leave in the interval.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Once you moved here, you never did anymore. Once you
moved to America, you never did any more work In Britain.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, wow, so you walked quite a lot before you came.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Oh well, I was lucky enough to do the West
End four times National Theater.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Do you miss being on stage? Though?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
There's a time of life thing. Do I miss anything?
Do I? What I do is I Actually, I'm very
grateful to having had experienced it. I know what it's
like to walk out in front of two thousand people
in a character. The hardest thing, the hardest thing, no
stage right there. The hardest thing was when you know
the science fiction thing, Babylon five, whatever that you know
(13:35):
from your fan base, When you have to step out
on a stage as yourself, it's a very strange experience.
Worst the first time I did it, I had no
idea what to do. And I don't know whether you
know him, great actor Peter Jurassica was in Babylon five
on my first audition, on my first convention, I followed
him out on stage. Well, he spoke for forty minutes
(13:57):
without fielding a question. He just talked me. I just
stood there like animal gon any questions.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh, that's like our Jason Priestley. I remember the first
time we were at the Emmy's and Jen and I
were going to present. Jason was doing something before and
we were so nervous because you know, talking as yourself
in front of and people are like, what do you mean?
You're an actor?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You can do it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I said to Jason, are you nervous? And He's like, Nah,
this doesn't bother me at all. And I was like,
this is the hardest part.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Well, yeah, he's a special case. I think it was.
It was a weird because it was a weird experience
because we're on for an out. We had an hour
to talk to the crowd. This was in London, and.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
He took forty five minutes of it.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Well he did forty five minutes without fielding a question,
and then and then it was my hour and I
was on next after was all the cars were there.
I went on an accent and I got to about
thirty minutes in and said, anybody got.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Any more questions, that would be me too.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Do you want to hear a poem?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I want to hear a poem, I.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Said some of my I started saying to myself of
my parents, I write a drama school.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Wow, you could say anything to me right now. I
could listen to you.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Oh well, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Okay, So did you have kids?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Did I have kids? This does a question that we
have after we've crossed the threshold and with death. So
how was your life?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Did you have kids? I've just told you live with
your family, but.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
A bit of romantic rock and roll historically, but.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I have How old is.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Ever? So? I mean nearly forty thirty five and oh
I have to do the numbers on that one. But
you starting, I had two. I had two sons in London,
and I had a daughter in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay, so very young okay.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And unfortunately divorces followed eventually. I'm not one a bad, bad, bad,
bad bad man, but I am happily married and with
an Albuquerque.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Oh wonderful, just at the foot of.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
The San Dia Mountains, so I can.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Go from there. When'd you move to Albuquerque?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Uh? You about a year ago? Still getting used to
the lack of oxygen here because of course you're a
mile high. So the air is very thin. Wow much,
it's sunny from most of the year, and it's not d.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well, it's not one And then wait, so uh why where?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Why there? Though?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Why there? That's it's a weird one. It's interestingly enough,
a friend of mine from thirty years ago in Los
Angeles had moved to Albuquerque, and he s, hey, you
ferenty moving to Albuquerque so we can hang out and
everything like that. I thought about it living louis the
end of the time and moved and we moved. I
told my wife about it, and she she was looking
(16:54):
at the idea and thinking about it and didn't tell me.
She applied for a job, got a job in Albuquerque.
Can she moved four months before I did.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's wild, so we're just ready for a change.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, it had come to the point. Yeah, this is interesting.
So it's a weird story of me in America. I've
lived in the low desert Los Angeles, I've lived, then
I moved to Michigan so serious winters, then Louisiana and
so that's the swamp. And now I'm in the high desert,
(17:26):
so low desert whatever you call Michigan lake country.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And I feel like you need to move to the
Pacific Northwest next.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
That's a pretty good idea, just certainly.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, so you can play.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
If there's time.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well, we keep talking about your past, what are you
going on now?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Tell us, no, I'm actually I'm happily contemplatively looking back
and not particularly worried about the future. And yes, I
did the outrageous thing. I'm sixty two. I retired. Doesn't
mean I can't work as an actress.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Enough, Wait, we can do that at sixty two, Can
we do it?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You can technically do it? Yeah, I mean I didn't
reize I could get a discount on the bus when
I was fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But hey, the other day I wanted the movies with
my daughter and she bought me a senior citizen ticket.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Oh but that's the weird thing. And I get so
upset now when I'm in the supermarket and no one
wants to ide me that happened.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You're just there, living in the now.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I suppose. So I suppose. I suppose that. I suppose
that's the thing I've always done, which is why I've
just been responsive to life rather than having any plans.
Just like what doors appear, and then I go through
them if they appear, but they might not appear for
a very long time, and then they appear it or not,
what we'll see.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You giving her anxiety.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
She's a planner I'm a planner, but I'm the same
way as you. I've never I've never had goals or
plan as far as like what I want to do
next with my life. So I love that that.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Don't promise yourself. It's like Christ thinks something. But don't
promise yourself anything, and you won't disappoint yourself. If you
set goals, you can fail your goals. Now says they
never promise anybody anything, and then you'll never disappoint anybody.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, as a parent, that's a good one to practice.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Whatever I mean, that's it sounds like you have beautiful
life though.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Well I do know, yeah, like most Well, I mean happiness,
this is for everybody. Happiness is a choice, no small print,
no read this book, no do this. It's a choice.
It's a choice. What did you just say happiness is
(19:53):
a choice.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh my god, I am so embarrassed, Jason Carter. I
did not hear happiness for whatever reason, it came out
pens and but Jen usually would react and she didn't,
And I was like, guys, I don't know what's happening
right now.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Is just a quote. People, he said happiness is a choice.
I thought he.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Said, my penis is a choice, and then he wanted.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's my awful accent? Or is when I got to
Los Angeles and I'm meeting casting directors. Yeah he's great,
but can he lose the accent?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Can you? Can you lose your accent?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Do let me do it?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Talking like American? We just put him on a spot.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
That's all I was about. Southerner. If I okay, just.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Say I'm living in Albuquerque with my wife, say that
in like American.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I'm living in Albuquerque with my wife.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
No, pretty good. No, I heard it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I heard the wife she did. I I love that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
You admit you can't though.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But the thing is, people say I've lived there for
thirty two years or whatever it is or more, and
people said, you haven't lost your accent.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Why would you?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Because yeah, why would I? Because here's it's different. It's
very common where I come from and where I come
from people that go, oh, I love your accent. They
don't do that, No, but they do here, so so
why would they change it? Also, Also, the nineties was
great because I did your show playing a very nice man,
but I did play a lot of villains and at
(21:32):
the time during the nineties, British villains were in in
a big way, you know, like the bad guys speaking
charmingly and not taking your gun out but just going
hello down everywhere else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sinister, but in
a charming way, you know, darling villainry, which is what
you know, the Alan Rickman territory of life and camp villainry.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You're so sexy. Sorry, tell your wife, I apologize.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
We thank you. Goodness me ah.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
You can I ask you one question?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Please do so you did do a lot of comedy,
but you were on and tell us about your experience
on Third Rock from the Sun.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
That was actually a marvelous experience. And I was very
lucky to have gone for that audition at that time
because they had had they cast it three times before me.
I didn't know this and hadn't got the right person.
Because they're the comedians. They're looking for something to launch from,
some spring from. So I had the chain smoking, roll
(22:39):
up poet London guy, which I can easily do. But
I got cast. I got cast pretty much on the
set because they were doing all the auditions at the
studio Columbia. Figures. Can't remember, no, but I'm there and
I'm on the phone outside in a British phone box,
of course, because they decorate sometimes and I'm on the
(22:59):
phone just calling my wife and suddenly there's an assistant
tapping in the window. You've got the job. What you've
got the job? Can you go to wardrobe and makeup? Whoa?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Literally go right there.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It was all Hollywood. It was like you were doing it.
We were in rehears because they rehearsed it, and it
is shot in front of a live audience. And John Lithgow,
the massive, massive John Lifga is the nicest man on
the planet. And it was directed by David Hughes who
was also massive as indeed was what's the name that
the daughter. I can't remember their names now, but they're
(23:33):
all massive, and I was her boyfriend. There's the point
that was the gag, and then they're all chained smoking
and doing poetry. But every single take that John Lithgu
did was different. And the director, John Hughes, I found out,
directed the original Monty Python.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
That hence the relationship with John Clees being on the
shore and stuff like that. But he would just let
John Lift do his stuff. Just Ris.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Kristin Johnston, she's yeah, very tall, oh.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But they were all super lovely and and being their comedians,
they needed something to launch from. So having this chained smoke,
self indulgent of writing the poem about myself to myself,
by writing my poem of myself, it was already just
like all intents and yeah, and they're all chained smoking
and they're all wearing black.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I didn't realize John Lithgow was that tall.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Oh, he's massively tall, and so is that so so
is David Houston, the British director there was Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I love him so much.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Brilliant, so sweet and so in charge, just different, different
stuff coming out of their mouths each time. Great people,
we love that. Yeah, and very welcoming, very gracious, very hello,
Thank you, Ry, you know, very nice. Well, that's good
your show is having like that, But it's very often
(25:07):
regulars can be total guests.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Which wasn't your experience on the show.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Wasn't your show?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That never happened on our show?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
How did everyone treat you on our set when you
first came on?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Oh? Very well, it was it was you.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Can't transition after seeing these like a less megastars were
amazing and then now be like you guys were okay, no, no.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It was it was. It was fair enough, it was.
It was a weird one because initially I was a
bit of fish at water because everyone had relationships and
it's all going on, and most of my scenes were
with Shannon, and initially, first couple of episodes, Shandon didn't
talk to me. That's fine because I was in my
own world as well, and I was more interested in
(26:06):
how the camera worked and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Hey, I was young, But why didn't she talk to you?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't know who she talked to, but she didn't
talk to me at the time, but then then the
subsequent episode because I didn't bother Maybe because it didn't
bother me. I was invited to a birthday party, which
was her twenty third birthday party.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think where was it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
It was in a in a nightclub thing in Hollywood,
down by the Grime and Chinese I think theater, and
there was a lot. There was a bunch of fights
there and bouncers. It was a wild one.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I was just a Thursday night out. But okay, are
we talking bar one? Are we talking China Club? Are
we talking Rosy?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
No? I believe me even if i'd gone to those places.
I probably couldn't remember now.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Was I there?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You don't have to remember this, did you?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Did you g I'm serious? Was I there?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I went to the party?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yes, went Jason, but toured. Do you don't you.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Remember was being there?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I goeh? Were we there? We just came about it.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Remember now, it's all overwhelmed by the fact there was
a big fight. I suddenly broke out from our primaries
and don't know what it was. But of course the
tabloids decided there was a reason.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
How did you remember, specifically twenty third birthday? I have
a good memory. I would never remember that.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Maybe because you were so shocked to get the invitation.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, but well it was it was I wonder what was?
It was a weird one, and it was also an
interesting lesson that I had in life because the big
fight was happening. One of the guys who was fing
I actually was. I was. I don't know what it was.
It was the time of my life. I was in
Jesus mode. I don't know, but I grabbed this big, hulking,
massive guy and just I'm holding him a whole him
like this, Like the big man walks away the big
(28:03):
man walks away. You b calmed him down, and he's
trying to the door, and then the bouncers grab him
and the fight starts again because they're violent too.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
There. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I think you would remember a big fight again.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
You'd be typical Thursday night out. No, every time.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Because I got it involved, because I decided to pretend
that I could solve the problem.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
And I feel like you did. You made a difference.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
First second, more than the lost of people went crazy. Yeah,
I was looking for a fight. Don't calm him down.
I didn't say that, but that's it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Gosh, we wish we could.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
It's lovely when she's thinking.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You're talking about me yourself into trouble right now? Wow,
it's just fun to catch up with our producers find it.
Oh my gosh, I have to know where that birthday
party was. I wonder if we'll look it up. Wheat
Was it at the Hollywood Athletic Club?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
It might have been. I was very I was very
new to Los Angeles, so I couldn't have pinned anything down,
but I knew we were down in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think it's coming back to me, But you know,
I don't know this is how her process works about
thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So I hope you have some time. Yeah, what are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I'll get there and then I'll be whoa amazing Okay, anyway,
we'll find out at some point. Okay, I'll slide into
your DMS and not to talk about that, but just kidding.
Jason Carter, do you have Instagram?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I am very bad on all those social things. Yes
I do. I think I do, but I don't use
it in the same way as I don't use Twitter,
which I also have. Yeah, what's going on? Because she
scrolls down and goes gives me the news. But but
I use WhatsApp. That's it. What'sapp with my family? Very
(30:17):
cool WhatsApp.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
It is what's up? What's upp what'spp what's up? Well,
what's happy you? Then? Yeah, you can what's happened? When
you remember where the bird? I remember the party?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Okay, okay? Or email me. I have my email addresse,
which hasn't changed in thirty years.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
A speeler.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Oh my gosh, don't tell us.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Are you Are you AOL dot com?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Oh, don't react that way. We're proud we are AOL
dot com and it makes us pretty proud it is, even.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Though every time we give it to someone I.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Know historically America online, way back, way back, way back,
way back. Yes, but they're still running, are they there?
You go just now.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
But we can't let it go. It's literally just the
two of us, the habit. I'll never let it go,
will you, Jen?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Nope?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Hold on, what are you looking at, Jason?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I'm looking at Tory Spelling's twenty third birthday and I
can't find it either.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You mean Shannon's Tory Spelling on the brain? Nor?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Sorry? Sorry, I'm old? All right? You young people don't understand.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
We are not that much younger than you. Just know
I want you to We're not.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
It's the great leveling out as you get older. Like
my my younger brother, My youngest brother is seven years
younger than me. Well, when I'm eighteen and he's eleven,
that's a big difference, no relationship whatsoever. But I'm sixty
two he's fifty five. Were the same age.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It happens.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And don't you like what age do you feel even
though you're sixty five? How old do you feel?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
We all have that number.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Are you prepared for some Jason kind of thought wisdom
things is that some people get old. Bear with this one.
Some people get old and turn into old men. Other
people just become decrepit. That I'm that model. I will
always be Jason, but the vehicle will fall apart.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
But some people, Wait, you just called yourself decrepit.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah yeah, yah, yeah yeah, but but but I'm not decrepit.
But I'm just saying my vehicle will fall apart, right,
but I will still be driving it. Some people turn
into something else. Some people become old people. I don't
know what it is. I've met loads of old people
who didn't you get a point. Yes, you remain You're
(32:50):
the same driver. You're the you guys have been driving
for the years you have. I can see you're the
same drivers.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I don't think Tori and I will ever become old
people in.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
My no, but that that's the point.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And emotionally.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
The weird lesson for this was during COVID. Yes, I've
done some strange jobs. I was a working for a
wine liquor store and as a delivery driver in Louisiana
during COVID. Okay, and I had to go.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
That was that was a necessity for people.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Nobody was on the road, so the police weren't stopping anybody,
because who was going to stop anybody? You'd have to
talk to them. So we were the heroes of the
road in the medical profession, delivering liquor in Louisiana, in
loss in New Orleans, of course, but because of the law,
I would have to ask them for their birthday and
the holding their license up to their window, like how
(33:49):
dare you come to my door? You ordered the liquor?
But old people. I see old men, and I know
I'm twenty years older than them. They're in the forties.
But they had they appeared to be old. They had set,
they had set, they had become, they had stopped. Unfortunate.
(34:14):
So I'm My father died when he was seventy one,
ten years ago. But my mother said at his funeral,
isn't as Brian, Brian has his name Brian? Or is it?
Because I always used to say to Brian, growing up
is optional? Growing up is optional?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, very wise words, Jason.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I stole him. I stole them.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
One last thing though, to Jen's point, because there is
I feel like we all have that one number stuck
in our head, like you remember yourself at and for
some reason is there an age.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Well, I suppose it's going to actually be the most
consequential period of your life as well as that sound.
And that would have probably been when I went to
Grammar School when I was twenty. I mean I was
there when I was eighteen to twenty one, but I
was at Lambda, not the Royal had Me Acting school,
which of course was invented by Peter Frere. He sent
(35:05):
me the shirt.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Oh my god, I wondered why you had that shirt.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Of course, Peter is okay, amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah, I was playing Roy Randolph now and I did
it totally camp and I wore wore top hat. Really,
I was directing epic productions and I'd married somebody who
had a stately home.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I just had an epiphany.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Wait, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
What if this had.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Happened to you, guys, because I keep bringing up Brenda
went there and married you or whatever and had babies.
But in the final episode that we ever see Brenda Walsh,
she says to Dylan, give me something to come back to,
and we allude to the fact that they make love
one last time. But if we were to allude to
(35:53):
the fact that when she went to get the part
for Maggie the cat. She made love with Roy Randolph,
then technically she could go away and she could have
come baby and be pregnant or have a baby. But
we don't know who the father is. It could be
Dylan or it could be Roy Randolph. Oh, my dad
would be so proud, right now.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
That's right. I don't know. Wow, this is obviously an
adventure that could have happened.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Oh my god, these things that will never know. This
is sad, but it's so great to catch up with you,
so much to see you and you will forever be
Roy Randolph.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
You're wonderfully nice. Thank you, and you're looking great.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Guys, thank you. I apologize to your wife that I
seem to have hit on you. I wasn't. I just
appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Hey, you can hit tell me anytime.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Sorry, all right, Thank you so much. Jon, Bye, Jason.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
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