May 17, 2021 • 59 mins
Before getting in to the episode Jennie reminisces about Derek Hough dropping her on Dancing with the Stars. Then, even though Steve Sanders was a jerk in this episode Tori felt his body looks good.
What's it like to have TV PARENTS? Tori and Jennie dig in to this topic now that have become the actors playing parents on television. Jennie talks about Kelly's mom and also spotted the boom mic three times in this episode.
Then, dreamy David Lascher joins Jennie and Tori to talk about his appearance in this episode and his "teen idol" days.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey there, gals, Hi, Hi,
we are here for another episode of nine O two
on O MG. I'm so happy about that. Another week
(00:23):
with you, babes. I love it. How's it going. How's
everybody's week going? Uh, you were in the news. Oh no,
sexy dancing queen, dancing queen. Yeah, that's right, I know
you were dropped. Dropped? Is this about the um Derek Cuff? Yeah,
(00:46):
he just mentioned it in an interview. I think I
think they were asking him, like, what was your most
embarrassing moment ever on Dancing with the Stars And it
just happened to be with me? Okay, but he but seriously,
like he had done like a gazillion season, so that's
big news like that. That was the story that came
to mind. So that's good, I guess if you want
to look at it that way. Yeah, it was his
(01:08):
first um, first time on the show. He had been
in London doing live shows there and they brought him
over to do Dancing with the Stars and yeah, I
was his first dancing partner, basically his guinea pig, and
uh we we had a great time. But that was
Oh that song I'll never forget that song until right now.
(01:31):
Uh it's like suddenly, I see, that's all I got.
That's all I got. I can't remember. But every time
I hear that song, which is usually like in the
bank or in the grocery, tae ptsd, I do, I think, No,
not that. Wait. So he's saying that was embarrassing for him,
but was it embarrassing for you? So, my gosh, it
(01:53):
was so embarrassing. My my dad was still alive then,
and I had wheeled him into the audience that night,
his little wheelchair, and I was so excited for him
to be there. And it was like, um, maybe our
third or fifth night of the live performances. And we
did this trick, which I was never crazy about the tricks.
(02:16):
They always terrified me. But this tricker, I was like
supposed to shoot through his legs and then he flips
me over and twirls me around. I don't know, it
sounds really complicated. It was, but um, my dad was
sitting right in front of where I felt like I
felt in front of my father. I was bummed. I
wanted to do good for him. Oh my gosh, you guys.
(02:39):
She went onto the semi finals yeah, and it's so funny.
I'll never forget. My dad was like afterwards, I was
so like, I'm sorry, Yeah, that happened, and he goes, well,
was probably the best thing that could have happened for you.
Now you'll get more votes. Oh my dads were so
(03:00):
at school. That's what my dad would have said stuff
like that too, like, now everyone's gonna be talking about you. Um.
I remember seeing that on TV at the time, and oh,
I got so nervous. But I feel like your face,
like you pulled it off so well, and I feel
like it ingratiates, like the audience just they did. They
(03:20):
wanted you more because they were like, oh my gosh
that it must have been heartbreaking for her, and yet
you were just like you smiled and the world was like,
we love her. Must have been just too much spray
tan and slipper too many. It was little too slippery
that night. Oh my gosh, you looked so good in
those costumes. Though it was so good, you were really tan.
(03:44):
She she is very hesitant to put on like spray
tans or tanning lotions. That's so funny you mentioned that
because during this episode I was watching it. I think
it was this morning and my husband walks in the
room and it was like one of the beach scenes
and he goes, wow, baby, you are really white. Said, yes, yes,
(04:08):
I was very white. But that's why you have great skin. Now,
yeah that's true. Yeah, I can stay out of the sun. Ladies.
I know. I'm scant you love your like a sun goddess.
I know, but I think I feel like I know.
So okay, So you guys, anytime that she sees me
(04:31):
put up a picture on Instagram and I'm in the sun,
she will text her deem me and be like, stay
out of the sun, get out of the star. Are
you wearing sun block? Hat on? Like every hour? I'm
it's got to look out for you. Thank god. She
says that I'm terrified of the sun. It's like I'm
like a gremlin, one of those things that can't be
in the sunlight. Yeah, that's a vampire or that. So
(04:58):
it's an exciting wee. We're moving on down the episodes
of season two. This is episode much better, Episode three. Yes, yes,
so this is episode three of season two. Summer Storm
aired on July nineteen, and the synopsis is Cindy's mothering instincts.
(05:24):
I think it's upset. I know, Oh my god, I
was like, I have never heard that word my whole life. Upsurts.
I think it's a word. Is it a word? You guys?
I mean, I'm sure upsurs Have you ever used that?
You stand by? You keep brings, you know, when you
drink something like not. It's like a mix between upset
(05:46):
and like births. You guys think like upsets the apple
cart like turns over. That was that. I just I
think it ignited her mothering instincts. I believe it is
a typo oh, just kidding. We go on for like
a whole thing about why this word works. You're gonna
use any other word there? Okay, got it. Synopsis Cindy's
(06:10):
mothering instinct upsets Jim and Brenda after she brings injured
surfer Dylan to recuperate at the Walshes. Meanwhile, Kelly's instincts
are spiked by a handsome volleyball player insured love interest. Yeah.
So this episode starts at at at the Walsh house
(06:35):
and they're watching the news, I guess, and they see
Jack McKay in the news. Dylan's dad is being like arrested,
taken into jail or the courthouse or something. But that's
not Dylan's dad, you guys, that's different. That's not even
that's not the actor that played him in season one
(06:58):
or the actor that played him on other season. So
there were three. Apparently, we'll see, we'll keep counting. I
love the way he was like hiding his face though
really worked, because really worked for the show. Eventually, and
then Jim comes in and he's leaving and he's looking
for his shirt, and Brandon says, this is when I'm
going to jump right into my favorite line, one of
(07:20):
my favorite lines, when he said, what is it okay for?
Jim says something about girls wearing men's shirts, and Brandon says,
mm hmm a girl and a guy's shirt. Nothing like it,
you know, it just dad. And then like that was weird.
I mean it's kind of true. Yeah, I mean I
(07:41):
like that, it's cute, but just for him to say it,
like even with his sister, was talking about his sister,
I don't know, Oh crapy, oh that is Yeah, you're right,
you're right. He was given our heads up for guys
in general. Yeah, you're right. There's nothing right about it
except for Steve shirts because he does wear girls shirts.
Why can't he get a whole tank top? Why does
(08:04):
the only thing get Why do they only give him
half a tank top? Maybe it was the wardrobe budget
first season. I don't know, that's why they want him
to show it off. He did have a nice little
tum tum. Wait, I gotta say, I think, I mean,
Iron has a great but he still has a great
body and he's such a handsome man. I I would
(08:24):
rather have no shirt on than tank tops like that.
Like I don't feel like even then in the nineties,
I wasn't like, oh that's that's sexy. You don't find
it mysterious, like what's under that four inches of cotton
at all? It doesn't get you going, okay, I mean
I get lost with it. But than that nothing, Oh
(08:49):
I thought he looked good. He was he was not
nice in this episode though, he was a jerk. Didn't
you guys think he was a jerk? He was. Steve
has his moments, Steve goes back and forth. I feel
like a lot, like he's that nice guy that just
like gets grumpled. Grumpled a word. It is now right now,
(09:14):
in these early seasons, I feel and it just he
completely changes. Yeah, it's funny because Iron and he would
he would admit this. Can I even say this? Like
he has like two distinct personalities too. He's not mean
like Steve, but he can definitely get like short fused
and then be like the sweetest loving brother. Ever, what's
(09:36):
his sign? I know, I was just thinking that isn't
he and he's like, yeah, which I don't It doesn't
I don't know. It's more like a Gemini. Yeah, yeah,
he's more like a Gemini. Maybe he should see if
his rising is Gemini or maybe he was a premie
and he came like a few months early. You're supposed
(09:58):
to be a Gemini. I don't you know what My
favorite thing is when we when we all just make
up backstories and and things. We just makeup stories we
don't need. Who needs truth? That our version. There's there's
a the truth and then there's our version, and there
you go. You pick which is more interesting? Duh. This
(10:20):
was the first episode, Well that's the first episode season
two where we see Jackie and I was so excited
to see Jackie Taylor on screen. I don't know, I
just love that woman. She and Gillespie plays Jackie Taylor,
and she's so great and I just have the fondest
memories working with her. She Yes, what a beauty like,
(10:43):
just a beautiful soul, just a good person. How old
was she when we started? I always asked that about
the parents because there aren't like we're the same age now,
but it's just our memories of them are when we
were teenagers. So and she had to been in her thirty, right,
I would be. I would guess she was a young mom.
(11:04):
I feel like she was young, like Kelly's mom was
a young mom. Does she feel like a mom do you?
Or just a co worker? No, she felt like a
big sister to me more and I and I I
don't know. I just always really um. Even in this episode,
(11:25):
Kelly's kind of taking care of her mom a little
bit and keeping her own track, making her accountable. And
h I just remember whenever we would do whenever I
would do scenes with her, I would feel the real,
the real feelings of a daughter who wants her mom
to be good and stay healthy and and you know,
(11:45):
and so I just remember that was a great working
experience working with her. But I feel like in general,
none of the parents parented us on set. Does that
make sense? I guess I guess we're mom age now
like when we play moms do we parents? Teens? On
the your kids? We're like cool, No, I'm like, not
(12:06):
my problem. I see you guys later. I got enough
to deal with it. Oh, thank you very much. And
I love it when when Jackie and Kelly are sitting
there checking out the guys together. That's so cute. I
kind of feel like I do that with my kids
a little bit like him. I mean, not stop it,
(12:28):
tell me more, but not just haven't say it? Stop
it for them Bill the j you know, I just
want to I want to find a cutie pie for them.
Oh my god, what do you wait? I got to
hear this part. I'm this I've never witnessed. Okay, so
there's a cute boy walking by. What do you say? No,
(12:52):
I'm just kidding. Sad part is, I don't think you're lying. No,
I don't say I'll throw up if she says your
daughter say hello? I did just say hello to the boy,
or just like to us to my daughter, like hello,
(13:14):
like's what do you think? Like that? That's really cute. Actually,
they're all they're all a little boy crazy, so it works.
That's cute, though, why is mine not? Well, they're crazy.
It could be several reasons. One of them is she's
not quite old enough yet. True the younger ones, but
(13:35):
like Stella's turning thirteen, and I kind of, I mean,
even though Fiona is a little bit older, Like I
kind of based them together, and I'm always like, Fiona
has a boyfriend, Fiona like, and Fiona did not have
a boyfriend she did, remember, No, she just had a
boy that gave her some jewelry. Yeah, okay, right, they
(13:58):
were he wanted to be your boyfriend. Better of bearings
at that age, right, but remember at that age what
we would say, like that's my boyfriend, and like you
never saw each other, but you just had the title.
Yeah I was talking a week and I have later
you broke up, but yeah that was your boyfriend, like
you talk at night or just see him at school,
and he was your boyfriend because he asked you like
will you be my girlfriend? And then that was it.
(14:19):
You gotta teacher, you gotta you gotta teach her. Kelly
taught me how to be assertive and get what she wants.
I mean, in this episode, you see her going after
what she wants, and I am a believer in all
aspects of that. If you want something, go out and
get it manifestation. So I do. I say, it's still like, oh,
(14:41):
that boy's cute, and she's like, oh, I'm like okay,
and then I feel like defeated. So you've got to
ask her what's her type? Because maybe you're wrong target, No,
you're the cool aunt like you ask her because they don't.
I mean mine doesn't. My youngest doesn't really like like
the football guy. She wants the waify, feminine little guy
(15:06):
that she can. I don't know what break him or something.
I don't know, but she's like into like, you know,
he's the guy who's the guy that Timothy Timothy Shellomy
Timothy dollobys really into that body frame though might not
know who that is. You guys, I'm totally behind Timothy Shellomy.
It's delightful. What I think he's cute? Yes, okay, what's
(15:29):
he from a million movies? I'm so backwards. Okay. So
my daughter is very into um, Harry Potter, So she
thinks Drake they Slytherin like they all love, which makes
me nervous. See, so they're starting him. I can't the
bad name, I can't remember, but he's rank something, Drake
(15:52):
the bottle, he's the head Slytherin dude, and um, Fiona
just recently went through a major phase where it was
all about Draco Malfoy and uh and I didn't get
it and she was like, no, I think he's still
cute because she followed him on Instagram or something and
he's like a grown man. No, And I said, you
(16:14):
now he's cute now and she was like yeah, totally. Um,
that just makes me nervous because that means like mine's
already like going towards the cool bad boys instead of
like why did you like Harry Potter, like you know,
a little redheaded friend. I went on cameo because it's
(16:35):
Stella's birthday coming up, and I was like, oh, now
there's cameo Like you can book celebrities to give video
shout outs, so I like, I was like, anyone Harry
Potter on here? And he was, but for like a
thirty second video shout out, it's like five plus from
Harry Potter. Oh that maybe that'd be more Drake Drake
O'Malley's sliding into my d M help me out with
(17:04):
a birthday gift for my daughter. Oh my goodness. Oh sorry,
back to the show. So, yeah, there's a lot of
great stuff going on at the Beach Club in this episode,
and then there's Shakespeare Week at drama class. This stressed
me out bad. You guys, what do you mean because
(17:26):
getting Shakespeare, I don't know. I'm just it's not my
jam like as an actor. And so I'm an acting
class on nine and I was like, oh, and then
at Shakespeare week and I was like, oh crap, that's
like me trying to do you know, I can't do
a British accent, Like, yeah, imagine me doing Shakespeare, Lisa.
(17:47):
There's a semi comedic twist. You guys got to make
it fun. Yeah, thank god. The drama teacher didn't really
like it, though he's Judgy, right, he's that actor those
actor types. Well, I thought you made an acute, an
adorable Romeo though that giant feather on your head. I
(18:10):
went on many more times to play a boy and
n sorry not a spoiler, but a spoiler you'll see
coming up seem to see Donnan David doing scenes. Brian
was always very fun when we got to do like
really like out there like comedy scenes together. So that
was always fun because we got to do that rather
(18:32):
than being like the flirty stuff which comes later, which
is always nerve racking for me. So that stuff was
fun or the drama stuff. Yeah, yeah, But I didn't
get the sense in this episode. I don't know if
this is was like art imitating life, I don't know,
but I got the sense that Brenda did not care
(18:56):
for Andrea one bit. I feel like this is and
it started to happen and then it kind of like
was all downhill from here. I feel like they really
wanted to have a friendship with those two, but then
something just like the writers could tell it wasn't clicking,
and then they're like apport mission. Yeah, you know what though, guys.
The boom the boom again three times. The boom was
(19:21):
in the shot three times, and it was at the
beach twice, and one of them was when people were
walking down the beach, like do walking down the beach
and then a giant fuzzy thing comes down from the
sky and it's in the scene while they're walking. It
was a shark flying in It was Sharknado before Sharknado
(19:42):
I mean, I'm beginning to understand why the soundman was
always screaming at the boom guy, really making him a
lot more sense now it was his son. Yeah, oh yeah,
our boom guy robo. I love that you pick these
things out every episode because, like Sis, I like, I
never see it. I could watch it back every time
(20:02):
and I would never see what she sees. She has
a great eye for that. It's you know, it's almost
like a fetish. It is it is. It's annoying boom fetish.
It sort of takes the fun out of Like I
was just to there and we were watching something, and
I was just like obsessing on the production value. And
then it just sort of takes the fun out of
watching something because my mind will analyze it and like say, oh,
(20:24):
that's it over the shoulder, and then they're gonna go
in for a close up and there's their two shots,
and that guy was too far away from camera for
off camera lines, Like my mind just walked up. I
don't know, Yeah, I'm too invested in the fact that
Dylan is spending the night at the Walshes and it's
like one door over from Brenda's room. Because you love
your some Brendan Dylan. Yeah. I think these were just
(20:46):
like my first romances that I would see as a
kid on TV and so you as a child, which
I was, um, you never experienced that in real life,
so to see it, it was like I was taking
notes at nine year old and he was shirtless in
this episode a lot. Oh yeah, and uh, I don't
(21:10):
know if you guys noticed, but I felt like Cindy
was kind of smitten with the shirtless Dylan in her
son's bedroom. That was art because we know she told
us she was like, I have a crush on him.
Oh my god. That was acute. At she couldn't even
hide it. She was like acting like with him, and
she's like just fluster her, just like, here's your dinner.
(21:36):
I think we have a surprise guest in the waiting
room for you, Tori, for me. Yeah, we're ready, it's
go time. You ready? Shall we tell her who I did?
I hate surprises? Yeah. Deborah Goodrich Royce, who was in
last week's episode and she played Sandy and you, oh
(22:00):
my god, is also looked good for this. You know
I'm gonna freak out. Now's your chance you get to
meet her and ask her all the questions about that
movie that you loved. Oh my god, I'm gonna freak
out right now. Oh my god, there she is. Thank
(22:26):
you for having me. Oh my gosh, I love you
so much. You're in my favorite movie. Like it's my
favorite horror film, one of my favorite horror films of
all time. Like I talked about April Fool's Day, and
I don't know if you saw the remake. Do you
see the remake? I did not. It was not good
and sorry whoever made it, but like it, no one
(22:48):
could live up to what you guys did in April
Fol's Day was my favorite thing of all time. Sorry,
Well that was Fred Walton. He was really something. Did
you ever see When a Stranger Calls? That was really
his breakout movie with Carol Kane. You know that famous
movie where she's the babysitter and the punchline is, you know,
get out of the house. No, he's upstairs called the
(23:08):
children are called coming from inside the house. Sorry, that
was exactly it. So that was Fred and um the
writer of that was a guy called Danillo Bach. I
think he did Beverly Hills Cup So he was a
writer of comedy and it was I think that. I
think it was the first I mean, I don't know,
(23:28):
kind of genre splitting. It was. What is that called.
I can't think of the name of it. It's kind
but comedy. It's way before Scream, you guys, way before,
which I think was very referential to it. I don't know.
I always called it a tongue in cheek horror film,
but that's not a name of a genre. We can
(23:50):
call it a horridy Yes like that? Yeah, I do
like that. Um, And I gotta say, I mean, for
anyone that hasn't see in April fool State, you've got
to watch it. And you guys were way ahead of
your time before Blair Witch, which had or sixth cents,
which had a surprise ending, because this was the surprise
(24:10):
ending to end it all. Literally, that's right, and a
f I. The American Film Institute just featured it in April,
and so did the Hollywood Reporter. They were doing kind
of a roundup of nine one years of film because
they're in the business one years, and they picked that
as one of the films of which is kind of
(24:32):
a long, you know, thirty plus year reward. Because I
don't think it was very well understood when we did it.
I agree with you, but I think I think what
it was is people weren't expecting the comedy in it
um so maybe they were like, wait, what's happening? It was,
(24:52):
I don't know, it's so good. I always use that
as a reference of that movie. I tell her all
the time, like April fol Day, April fool State. Okay,
and way, sorry, we'll go back to nine o two one. No,
now you you were you played Sandy a little love
interest moment for Brandon. I did. It was at that
beach club, so your whole storyline had moved down to
(25:14):
that beach and I was older, which I am older.
I'm still older, I mean age at the same rate.
We're catching up to you. Yeah. No, I don't know
if you ever will unless I die. And oh no,
the story was, yeah, he was working there and I
was of a lower class, so I didn't quite fit
(25:37):
in with the whole Beverly Hills scene. One of my
strongest memories is I was a new mom at that
point and I was living way over in Atwater Village
and the husband of a friend of mine, and maybe
he was a grip. Anyway, he had a very cool
(25:59):
old Volkswagen Feedle convertible, and that got to be my car.
And then that's right, so that happened to have been
the car of someone I knew, just coincidentally in a weird,
small world. And did you drive that car to work
that day? No? No, I probably he did. I guess,
(26:20):
Oh my goodness, well it suited Sandy nicely. Jen coined
Sandy last our last episode as a sex slave. I
wasn't sure, what's a caller? We were like Seve and see,
you know, I lost the thread because I wasn't sure
(26:42):
you was still talking about that character. Well, it was
just shocking because I was all in for the storyline
with Sandy and Brandon. Then all of a sudden, you're
in the red dress looking amazing, walking up the stairs,
and I was like, what is happening? What's she doing
(27:02):
in that dress? Well, you know, when you're the actor,
they never tell you. You You just kind of figure it out,
you can. I ask you a question, did you have
to bring any of your own wardrobe? Because we're just
curious because a lot of guest stars have told us
they had to bring their own wardrobe. You know, I
was just looking at it today and I think that
(27:24):
pink waitress kind of little mock turtlenext thing was mine.
I do I remember that. What about the head bands, Yeah,
we're dying to know because of the wind why the
big headbands. We couldn't figure it out a lot of them.
I think maybe it was an attempt of the style.
(27:45):
I don't know if it was interesting, Okay, Yeah, we
made up a whole storyline that maybe it was like
very windy one of the first scenes. So they put
it and it made it a character choice. After that,
we didn't know. We didn't know. But you've had such
an interesting career, Uh, done so many great things. You
you played, um, what was the name of the Kane
(28:08):
Erica Kane's sister. Yeah, I played Silver Kane, a very
realistic name. It's such a good one. Now, it's a
very good one. That could be your hooker or poorn name.
Back change a bit of that. No, it was a
really it was kind of a cool storyline. So she
(28:29):
was the sister of, you know, the Susan Lucci character
the Diva soap operas, And they took it from the
old film All About Eve if you remember that with
Betty Davis and and Baxter where Betty Davis in that
case was the Broadway star and and Baxter comes in,
as you know, her assistant and tries to take over
(28:51):
her life. So they just imported that storyline to the
soap opera. The fans loved it. When my so interesting though,
when I was reading up about you, is that you
then moved on to becoming a story editor. I did.
So what happened was I had a couple of kids
in the early nineties and my first husband, who grew
(29:13):
up in Paris, had the opportunity to go back there
for work. And for me, at that point, the bloom
was off the rows with acting. I mean it was
I had two little kids, and those were the days
when you would get a call to pick up a
script at six o'clock in the evening and you'd have
to drive an hour to get it. I mean, nobody
was emailing you a script nineties. And when this opportunity
(29:37):
came up, we went and it was there the first transition.
I re hired by a French film studio. Kind of plues.
They were looking for native English English speaking readers. All
studios keep readers on their payroll. You know, it's a
freelance job. And what you do is you read the
(29:58):
novel that's being submitted or a screenplay. If it's complete,
you synopsize it for the studio executives and you do
a page of analysis and comments. And then in the
movie business you always have to say what it's like,
you know, is it April Full's Day meets Gone with
the Wind? What is this thing? That was really cool job?
(30:21):
My my kids were little, I was living in Paris. Um,
I was doing that, and then my first husband was
hired by Julia Roberts. She had just done a deal
at Disney with Joe Roth, one of those development deals
which were very popular then. So we came back for
him to be her head of her little company. And
(30:45):
I was hired by Harvey Weinstein to be the story
editor at Merrimax. You want to ask anything about that? Yes, yeah,
so it's a funny thing. Um, I write thrillers and
I write identity thrillers. This is now you're a big author.
(31:06):
I'm a writer and I am very fascinated by this
concept of who people are really, what they reveal and
what they conceal, which is far more interesting. And in
terms of Harvey, I had a great experience in my
years at Merrimax. For me, it was like my writing school.
I had no experience of that aspect of him. I
(31:28):
don't doubt the women. I don't condone his behavior, but
I think people can exist in in compartmentalized ways. And
the experience I had in those years at Merrimax, it
was really a heyday there. And I learned so much
getting to edit the work of far greater writers than
(31:50):
I was. So I'm appreciative of that time, and I just,
you know, I can't really comment on all the Do
you think that doing that kind of work sparked your
interest to become an author? Yeah? Absolutely, And I spent
a long time kind of as a, you know, an
(32:12):
unannounced writer. I was in writing groups, I wrote a screenplay,
I got a grant for the screenplay. I put it
in a drawer. And there was an when I remarried
and moved to Connecticut where I lived now my husband,
who child, who's a really interesting person in the finance
(32:35):
world and a very creative person. There was a beautiful
nine cinema and Stanford, Connecticut, which is the next town now,
where he said, let's buy it and restore it and
I said, well, I don't really know anything about that
side in the movie business. He said, let's do it.
So we bought a movie theater. We restored it, beautiful cinema,
(32:57):
and that became a weird or in the next stage
of writing. So Gene Wilder lived in Stanford. Bilder Radner
had this beautiful farmhouse in North Stanford. She died, she
left it to him. He remarried this wonderful woman, Karen,
and I got to know them as a couple of
(33:17):
my husband and I did and they became very involved
with the Avon and he would come every autumn for
a decade, and he had a series called Wilder's Picks,
and he would present, over a period of three months,
two classic films and then one of his own, which
would always have a mob scene because he was so incredible.
(33:38):
In the process of our email relationship, he said one
day to me, are you a writer? I think you're
a writer, and I said, oh, well, you know, gosh,
g kind of sort of and very generously he said,
I would be honored to read anything you've written. So
I sent him this screenplay, very encouraging, and every time
(34:01):
I talked to him after that, he would say, are
you writing? Yeah, so screen turns around. I am in
my fifties by then, my youngest child and you beautiful
younger women with houses full of children. My youngest child launched,
(34:22):
and I felt like, as much as I loved raising
my children, I felt like I got a huge chunk
of real estate in my brain back but I have
been writing all along but tiny pieces of saying, short stories,
and suddenly there was this expansiveness of time where I
(34:42):
could sit completely in that cone of silence and get
into my head or out of my head or whatever
you want to call it. So I decided to tell
people I was writing a book. And my husband, who's
very charmingly humble, he was like, oh my god, I
wouldn't do that if I were you. You know what
if you don't finish, And I thought, it's okay. If
(35:04):
I don't finish, I will be able to say I
didn't finish. I mean, I wasn't making, you know, public announcements.
I was telling my friends, So, Zelie, you were holding
yourself accountable, like you were putting it out there exactly,
because up until then, all that kind of backdoor writing
hadn't really manifested. Is anything, So I said it, I'm writing.
(35:27):
You say I'm a writer? Yet you sure? Did you
have a new is this book that's out right now?
Ruby Falls? Is that a new book? Ruby Falls? Is
that right now? And my name Mrs Ford came out
two years ago? And yeah, so that's that's where we are.
Your cover artwork is beautiful. Yes, it's really cool. You know,
(35:52):
I'd love to talk to you about So Ruby Falls,
this one, it's a really cool story. There's a photographer
named Melanie will Hide and she was doing a show
in California. I think she was in Pasadena and her
computer was stolen and it took three weeks for the
police to find it. And when they did find it,
(36:14):
and she tried to retrieve her body of work, it
had all of those weird like pieces disjointed. So she
created a show all around that and she dedicated it
to her thief, to Adrian Rodriguez with love. And the
photograph was part of the show. It wasn't a stolen image,
(36:37):
but it was an image that she created. And Ruby
Falls is about a girl who's probably a little bit
on glued. So what I like about the cover it's
both beautiful and it's disturbing. Those are two wonderful characteristics,
especially in storytelling. Well that everybody. I want to make
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sure everybody know that they can order Ruby Falls on
Amazon dot com. Should definitely check it out because it
sounds like a fascinating story. M thank you. Yeah, it's
a lot of fun. Thank you so much for being
with us. Truly a delight. Debora, You're amazing. We love
you so it's wonderful to see you. M Are you
(37:33):
happy now? I'm I mean like a pig and poop,
I'm so happy. I love her so much. Oh my gosh,
huge man about amazing, empowering woman. I wish we had
more time with her, like I would love to talk
to her about like what happens when you're a leading
lady and a beautiful woman and you choose to go
(37:54):
from in front of the camera too behind the camera.
It sounds like a lovely life you've lived, peaceful, just
her and her writing like that she had me at
Paris when she had that life in Paris? Good? Well
do you think that was exciting? Get a load of
Who's next? You know who's the next guest? Right you are?
(38:17):
David Lasher Kyle and I say Nuno like, we don't
know the show, Like, that's our show, David, David, are
you there? So excited to see him? There he is?
Hey there, Wow, Hi guys. Hi, time to see decades.
(38:38):
Oh my god, I just felt like I was in
the nineties again. We are nice to see you, guys.
Still such a beautiful smile. Look at him. You guys
don't look so bad either. Thank god. That going for
Where are you, David? Where are you residing now? I
(38:58):
am home in the hills and Studio City. We're all
valley people now, you know, I was going to get
Studio City just from your living room. I don't know why.
It was like on the tip of my tongue when
you were saying it. I don't know what it is.
It has like that movie the way the Light Shining in.
I'm proud of it. Yeah, you have little kids, right,
(39:21):
I see a little table back there. How old are
your kids? Well, my youngest is she just turned eleven,
so she doesn't well she still uses that, but that
table is suspicious. Then. Yeah, I have an eighteen year
old who's going to college next year and a sixteen
(39:43):
year old. Wow, do they know that their dad was
a teen idol um. You know, they they're aware they
haven't seen nine O two one oh though, Uh, but
yeah they you know, I think Sabrina is on Hulu,
so they in that and Blossom? Did they see Blossom? Uh?
(40:05):
Yeah that Uh. I don't know. My stuff doesn't hold
up as well as I wish it would, but they
would definitely have to like our episodes on those summer episodes.
Oh my gosh, what do you mean? You were such
a teen heart through definitely some multiple platforms. I gotta say, like,
(40:27):
you know, of all the things I've done, and I've
been fortunate enough to be involved in some shows that
have had great success, I've never experienced anything like that summer. Uh.
When we shot and and those episodes were seen by
I mean everyone, it was crazy. I can't imagine what
you guys were going through. So you were in episode
(40:51):
three of season two and then again on in what
episode I think I did you? I don't know. I
was the possibly gay boyfriend of Kelly and uh, and
then I was question yeah no, I mean at the time,
(41:14):
I didn't realize that it was definitely a brave script
to put out there. Right, you pop up an episode
twenty of season two, and then back in season three,
episode ten, right, and that one was like a football
team using steroids, but you were still Kyle. Yeah, I
was still on the football team and now I was
also using steroids. So, oh my gosh, You're all over
(41:38):
the place, Kyle. They just loved you and wanted to
bring you back, keep putting you in storylines. But it
is controversial. Like back in the nineties, like when you
auditioned for the show, Um, did you know that Kyle
the Journey Kyle was going to make? No, I actually
was doing another show for your dad, Jack of Hearts,
(42:01):
in Las Vegas, So you didn't audition. You got to
part sorry, right right, so your dad. When that show
we only did like six episodes. We had the best
time in Vegas. I mean we lived at Caesar's Palace
for like three months. I had forgotten about that show. Yeah.
The whole time, He's like, you have to meet my daughter,
You have to meet my daughter, trying to set you up.
(42:24):
Oh my god, David. We were literally and David and
I became good friends, like you were like when we
worked together, you were like one of my Like I
wanted to say homies. Who says homies, but you know
what I mean. I was trying to make it clear
like it wasn't like a love thing, but like we
like definitely like we're friends and hung out and that's
so funny. We were just talking about how parents trying
(42:45):
to set their kids up. I guess my dad tried
to set me up with you. What was the problem
by giving me the role on your show? Um when
that other show didn't work out? I think it was
actually like a setup getting that part. Do you remember that,
like doing those scenes especially? I want to know if
(43:05):
you remember the jogging scene on the beach with U
see Sanders, where you're jogging down the beach wearing white pants. Yeah,
the fashion probably does not hold off. Wait whatever, why
didn't you go out with me? I'm so confused. You
(43:27):
you might have actually had a boyfriend. I know Jenny
had that boyfriend dan uh that was became my husband.
She married that one other quickly, and so if Jenny
had damn, that means I was going out neck That
was that time. It was there was someone in my way.
(43:48):
I remember, Oh man, I think of what could have been.
It was such a special time though I had just
moved to l a and I remember like getting on
the PC a h those days to go film those episodes.
I was like, you know, as soon as I saw
the ocean. Lastly my music. You know, Luke and I
were friends beforehand, but you all were so like welcoming
(44:12):
and gracious and spawn and just so cool. I was like,
you know, this whole place is awesome. It was was
really cold when we filmed the scenes on the beach.
We remember it like overcasting probably really and then we
had to wear kiinis. I mean, you've got to our pants, lucky,
but you had some shorts on there for the for
(44:37):
the volleyball scenes. Yeah, yeah, you do. You so you
have fond memories. That's good. We're always happy to hear
when people have fond memories of being on the show.
Exactly do you know, Jessica Alba, I was just kidding.
Um uh. You guys remember that summer though, because I
(44:59):
think there was like when that show blew up. Yeah,
you were there when we actually became a success because
we weren't the first season, so you were there when
it all kind of just took off. Yeah, and then
you were on the cover of Rolling Stone. I remember
being like, whoa, this is Um, that was Shannon, Jason
and Luke not us, but yeah we remember, ouch, we
(45:21):
just like to play hairs. It was insane. So then
you went on to just all kinds of great work
after that, Sabrina The Teenage Witch, and so many other
things you've done. And now you're this is the coolest part.
You're directing, your writing, directing and producing your own project. Yes,
in its second season. Well, the first season was for
(45:44):
Facebook Watch, and this new season is for a new
streaming service called fick Though. It's an app um and uh,
you know, it's like what Quimby was trying to do.
This is like round two. It's called thick Though. This
shows called Cruisers and Shakers and it's a comedy series
about young adults living in and exploiting the shared economy,
(46:08):
you know, in every way driving and task Rabbit and
just you know, I watched the trailer for it. It It
looks really funny. Oh thank you. Yeah, we're excited. I'm
really proud of it. And uh yeah, I've been writing
and directing for a while. Now. Do you like that
more than being a heart throb? Uh? Yeah, I like
it because I'm more in control of it. Yeah, it's
(46:32):
supposed to like, oh, please give me a job. After
a while, when you have kids, it's like I wait
for an audition or you know this, I could, I
could always write another script, I could go sell something.
I could, you know, and then once in a while
you put something together and uh, you know. I have
my first film that I wrote and directed is called Sister,
and it's on Prime video right now. It was on
(46:54):
Showtime for a year exclusive, but it's it's also I'm
really proud of that film. Oh I want to check
that out. I saw the ad for it. Yeah, it's
a like sort of semi autobiographical about my youngest sister
and it's got issues about over diagnosing kids with disorders
(47:16):
like a d h D, all the all the medication
that comes along with that. You're such an inspiration because
you're so inspiring because you know, as actors, you're right,
it sucks you have to You can just sit and
wait for the phone to ring and wait for that
next audition, that next role to present itself to you,
or you can go out there and get what you
(47:36):
want and make things happen. And that's really admirable. Yeah.
I mean, but you know, you guys, as well, whether
it's on the business side or whatever. You when you
grow up, you have to can't just sit around, right,
You have to try and make things happen. David was
on Clueless too, used to the series. You're on the series? Yes,
the series? Yeah, yeah, that one. I all Scott the
(48:00):
movie and Amy and I had become friends, so I
guess as the consolation prize whatever. A year or two later,
she offered me the role on the series. I mean,
it's a pretty good consolation. It was fun. I mean,
Stacy Dash she was on it, Donald Phase on a
Lisa Donovan, who's still a close friend. A lot of
(48:22):
was on our show. Oh my gosh. Wait. So I'm
sure you get recognized all the time still, Like which
of your nineties projects do people recognize you the most
from and what do they say? Do they say, I
feel like, I know, did we go to high school together?
Or what? What do they say? It depends on the age,
(48:44):
Like there's definitely the whole nine oh two, one oh
uh contingency and they're, you know, sort of like my
own age, and then there's people that are younger than me.
I did a show for for Nickelodeon called Hey dude,
Oh my gosh. It was a scripted comedy series that
ran for a few seasons. It was my first thing
(49:05):
I ever did, and it has the most loyal fan base.
If you know, if someone was between eight and twelve,
they watched this show. Yeah, I mean there's still like
I can't even believe it. But because you're born, You're
(49:25):
born in seventy two, right, you were the same age?
Are your seventy two year here? She's not. Here's a
big birthday. I don't want to. Let's talk about it, David.
Let's talk about let's talk about let's do some games
or something with David. Should we should? Yeah, we have
some rapid fire questions that we'd like to ask our guests.
(49:46):
So it's just kind of like the first thing that
comes to your mind. Favorite character, onto a Dylan nice,
all right, favorite cast member, No pressure by the way,
here yea to be one of us. Honestly, Luke was
my friend before the show, and he just had such
(50:09):
open arms for me in every which way, you know,
coming to l A and being on the show. So
but I love all you guys seriously. Good. Okay, what
about a favorite memory? Favorite memory? I mean I remember
the night scenes on the beach and all of us
just kind of hanging out. I mean we smoked a
lot of cigarettes back then. Just don't tell my kids. Yeah,
(50:36):
everyone everyone did. I feel like on that said it
was like the thing to do. Yeah. Well you you
kind of like bummed a drag or two off of
your friend's cigarette and you would do these close scenes together.
That's why they made Banka. Yeah, they had all kinds
of Yeah. I remember the night scenes and those shoots
(50:58):
being a lot of fun. I was like in heaven.
It was good times. All right. Final question, this one
is tough. Kiss Mary or kicked to the curb? Out
of all the characters characters Nato, who would you kiss?
Who would you marry? And since you were Kyle, you
(51:19):
can go either gender? Really, you can whatever you want. Yeah, okay, right, sorry, sorry, God,
you ask everyone these questions. Just you just you imagine
(51:39):
we said David's coming on, We've got to really stump him. Um,
I guess I would kiss yeh was it Kelly or
what was to Donna? Kelly or Donna? You should go
for Donna. She's got good lips. Okay, I'll go with
(52:03):
kiss Donna, because you know, that was meant to be. Uh,
and Uh, I'd probably marry Uh. Oh gosh, Andrea Brenda.
Yeah yeah, uh Andrea. Oh nice because she was smart,
so setting herself up for having smart kids again, level headed. Uh,
(52:29):
you can kick me to the curb, kick me to
the curb, just do it. I know where do you
think Kelly is? I mean, I think she should be.
I think that she was a good friend to Kyle,
so I don't don't really see her being kicked at
the curb. But if you want to kick me to
the curb, that's what a good friend would do. I
would take it for you. Um No, I don't know.
(52:52):
I I don't know who I kicked to the curb.
Who would you kick to the curb? It was messed
out of that group. I would kick um just because
he was such a jerk in this episode. I would
kick Steve to the curb. Yes, I agree, Yeah, I think.
I think when we played this initially, I think Donna,
(53:13):
I mean Donna, I kicked Steve to the curb too.
He's gotten kicked around a little and the nicest let
you passed the rapid fire questions. You're glad that's over.
Thank you? David, You're so fun. Thanks for coming on
our show. Thanks you guys, so great to see you,
get to catch up. I can't believe it's been this long.
(53:35):
We were super excited for you to come on. Yes,
everybody should check out your show though on ficto. Right,
that's the name of the app. Yeah, it's um the
app and the show is called Cruisers and Shakers. Check
it out. I love it. Keep up the good work, David. Alright,
(53:57):
Kyle Connors, I love you By. It's nice to meet
you By. How is it that he had just stay
so good looking? But you know what, we know this happens.
Men just get better and better looking with age if
they're already cute, right, Like, but I feel better. He
(54:17):
was always so cute, but like he's like, he's really handsome,
burning love handsome. Yes, if I spot them at him,
the terrible you're gonna eyes opened for the old Kyle
belly and all should be like, hello, Hello, Well, should
we go on and talk about a little bit of
(54:39):
fashion or or do we want to go straight to
questions because we're we might be running a little long.
I don't know. I think we should talk about Kelly's
red halter top because was it a bathing suit? Was
it a halter top? Well, both both of us were
in our bikinis in this episode. Wash, those were the
(55:02):
days I didn't bother. You did it, and you guys
had amazing bones. I don't think it bothered us. Now
do you remember even thinking twice about it? It was
just like, okay, yes I can. I can always remember
being self conscious of my body but so beautiful. And
(55:24):
now look now I'm thinking, what the hell was I
so worried about. I think all teenage girls feel that
same way that I look back in my teenage years
and I hated being in a bikinian. Now I would
kill for that book. I was worried about the neck up.
I was fine with the neck down, Like, god, your
neck up was the best part. Yeah, that was. I
(55:47):
think that was a halter like a shirt that wasn't
a bathing suit. The red thing. And I know what
your favorite fashion moment was was the was Iron's I
mean Steve's crop top. Yeah, it really is. I han't
you guys, I can't. I just want him to worry
but on here because I want him to explain and
defend it. Yeah, for sure, that's right. What about favorite
(56:11):
line from the episode? It's so good. You got a
favorite line? Really? I do? I have one from Brenda?
She said to be a bit or not to be
a bitch? That is the question. That's a good question
to ask yourself from Time to talk. Do you do
you think that started? I hate Brenda fan club right there?
(56:32):
I don't know, but I also liked when Kelly said
to Kyle, you want to have some fun of the
not so serious kind. I like them cute and flirty, flirty.
Brenda had a good one. You know. The hardest thing
I've ever had to do is trying to stay away
from you. And then she didn't stay away from him.
(56:56):
She did not that hard for her to keep making
out with it. Nope, you got any questions for us
this week? So I think these are short and sweet
and we can get through them really quickly. This is
from Phoenix, She says, what did Jenny think of how
honest Tory was in her books? From Phoenix? You mean
(57:16):
from Phoenix or from Phoenix? Phoenix? Her name is? That's
her name? Okay, what's her name? Phoenix? I have never
read Tories books. Unfortunately, I'm not an avid reader. I've
seen all of them. I love the cover, especially the
one with your hair. Remember the poofy hair, like a
low pony tail and poof hair. I love that hairstyle
on you. But I've never read any of your books.
(57:38):
But Tori is always honest, so I'm I feel like
I not surprised. I live in her book. I don't know,
I'm not surprised mage out of my book. All right,
this is from Tammy. Did anyone date each other seriously
from the cast? Date seriously? Read my books? Thanks? Um
(58:04):
Tiffany and Brian dated seriously, Tiffany. No, Brian and Vanessa
dated seriously, um Ban and Christine, Jason and Christie. Tiffany. Yes,
Brian and Tiffany and then Brian. Right when Tiffany came
(58:25):
onto the show, she and Brian were all ready together,
but then they broke up. Yeah, I think, yeah, that's
got that. I think that was a hard situation, having
to be young, a young couple navigating like just moving
in together and then like being on a huge, big
show together and working every day. But I feel like
(58:45):
that's it as far as like serious dating amongst the
and then I want you, Yeah, you dated Vince she'd
like to forget that three years. What that was a
long time. That was a serious dating situation then ish
yeah h and none for you not. I was always
(59:10):
married or having a baby. I was ever really dated anyone. Alright,
So our next episode is episode for Anaconda. Be sure
to watch it before next week. Anaconda. Don't want none
unless you got buns on.
With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey there, gals, Hi, Hi,
we are here for another episode of nine O two
on O MG. I'm so happy about that. Another week
(00:23):
with you, babes. I love it. How's it going. How's
everybody's week going? Uh, you were in the news. Oh no,
sexy dancing queen, dancing queen. Yeah, that's right, I know
you were dropped. Dropped? Is this about the um Derek Cuff? Yeah,
(00:46):
he just mentioned it in an interview. I think I
think they were asking him, like, what was your most
embarrassing moment ever on Dancing with the Stars And it
just happened to be with me? Okay, but he but seriously,
like he had done like a gazillion season, so that's
big news like that. That was the story that came
to mind. So that's good, I guess if you want
to look at it that way. Yeah, it was his
(01:08):
first um, first time on the show. He had been
in London doing live shows there and they brought him
over to do Dancing with the Stars and yeah, I
was his first dancing partner, basically his guinea pig, and
uh we we had a great time. But that was
Oh that song I'll never forget that song until right now.
(01:31):
Uh it's like suddenly, I see, that's all I got.
That's all I got. I can't remember. But every time
I hear that song, which is usually like in the
bank or in the grocery, tae ptsd, I do, I think, No,
not that. Wait. So he's saying that was embarrassing for him,
but was it embarrassing for you? So, my gosh, it
(01:53):
was so embarrassing. My my dad was still alive then,
and I had wheeled him into the audience that night,
his little wheelchair, and I was so excited for him
to be there. And it was like, um, maybe our
third or fifth night of the live performances. And we
did this trick, which I was never crazy about the tricks.
(02:16):
They always terrified me. But this tricker, I was like
supposed to shoot through his legs and then he flips
me over and twirls me around. I don't know, it
sounds really complicated. It was, but um, my dad was
sitting right in front of where I felt like I
felt in front of my father. I was bummed. I
wanted to do good for him. Oh my gosh, you guys.
(02:39):
She went onto the semi finals yeah, and it's so funny.
I'll never forget. My dad was like afterwards, I was
so like, I'm sorry, Yeah, that happened, and he goes, well,
was probably the best thing that could have happened for you.
Now you'll get more votes. Oh my dads were so
(03:00):
at school. That's what my dad would have said stuff
like that too, like, now everyone's gonna be talking about you. Um.
I remember seeing that on TV at the time, and oh,
I got so nervous. But I feel like your face,
like you pulled it off so well, and I feel
like it ingratiates, like the audience just they did. They
(03:20):
wanted you more because they were like, oh my gosh
that it must have been heartbreaking for her, and yet
you were just like you smiled and the world was like,
we love her. Must have been just too much spray
tan and slipper too many. It was little too slippery
that night. Oh my gosh, you looked so good in
those costumes. Though it was so good, you were really tan.
(03:44):
She she is very hesitant to put on like spray
tans or tanning lotions. That's so funny you mentioned that
because during this episode I was watching it. I think
it was this morning and my husband walks in the
room and it was like one of the beach scenes
and he goes, wow, baby, you are really white. Said, yes, yes,
(04:08):
I was very white. But that's why you have great skin. Now,
yeah that's true. Yeah, I can stay out of the sun. Ladies.
I know. I'm scant you love your like a sun goddess.
I know, but I think I feel like I know.
So okay, So you guys, anytime that she sees me
(04:31):
put up a picture on Instagram and I'm in the sun,
she will text her deem me and be like, stay
out of the sun, get out of the star. Are
you wearing sun block? Hat on? Like every hour? I'm
it's got to look out for you. Thank god. She
says that I'm terrified of the sun. It's like I'm
like a gremlin, one of those things that can't be
in the sunlight. Yeah, that's a vampire or that. So
(04:58):
it's an exciting wee. We're moving on down the episodes
of season two. This is episode much better, Episode three. Yes, yes,
so this is episode three of season two. Summer Storm
aired on July nineteen, and the synopsis is Cindy's mothering instincts.
(05:24):
I think it's upset. I know, Oh my god, I
was like, I have never heard that word my whole life. Upsurts.
I think it's a word. Is it a word? You guys?
I mean, I'm sure upsurs Have you ever used that?
You stand by? You keep brings, you know, when you
drink something like not. It's like a mix between upset
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and like births. You guys think like upsets the apple
cart like turns over. That was that. I just I
think it ignited her mothering instincts. I believe it is
a typo oh, just kidding. We go on for like
a whole thing about why this word works. You're gonna
use any other word there? Okay, got it. Synopsis Cindy's
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mothering instinct upsets Jim and Brenda after she brings injured
surfer Dylan to recuperate at the Walshes. Meanwhile, Kelly's instincts
are spiked by a handsome volleyball player insured love interest. Yeah.
So this episode starts at at at the Walsh house
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and they're watching the news, I guess, and they see
Jack McKay in the news. Dylan's dad is being like arrested,
taken into jail or the courthouse or something. But that's
not Dylan's dad, you guys, that's different. That's not even
that's not the actor that played him in season one
(06:58):
or the actor that played him on other season. So
there were three. Apparently, we'll see, we'll keep counting. I
love the way he was like hiding his face though
really worked, because really worked for the show. Eventually, and
then Jim comes in and he's leaving and he's looking
for his shirt, and Brandon says, this is when I'm
going to jump right into my favorite line, one of
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my favorite lines, when he said, what is it okay for?
Jim says something about girls wearing men's shirts, and Brandon says,
mm hmm a girl and a guy's shirt. Nothing like it,
you know, it just dad. And then like that was weird.
I mean it's kind of true. Yeah, I mean I
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like that, it's cute, but just for him to say it,
like even with his sister, was talking about his sister,
I don't know, Oh crapy, oh that is Yeah, you're right,
you're right. He was given our heads up for guys
in general. Yeah, you're right. There's nothing right about it
except for Steve shirts because he does wear girls shirts.
Why can't he get a whole tank top? Why does
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the only thing get Why do they only give him
half a tank top? Maybe it was the wardrobe budget
first season. I don't know, that's why they want him
to show it off. He did have a nice little
tum tum. Wait, I gotta say, I think, I mean,
Iron has a great but he still has a great
body and he's such a handsome man. I I would
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rather have no shirt on than tank tops like that.
Like I don't feel like even then in the nineties,
I wasn't like, oh that's that's sexy. You don't find
it mysterious, like what's under that four inches of cotton
at all? It doesn't get you going, okay, I mean
I get lost with it. But than that nothing, Oh
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I thought he looked good. He was he was not
nice in this episode though, he was a jerk. Didn't
you guys think he was a jerk? He was. Steve
has his moments, Steve goes back and forth. I feel
like a lot, like he's that nice guy that just
like gets grumpled. Grumpled a word. It is now right now,
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in these early seasons, I feel and it just he
completely changes. Yeah, it's funny because Iron and he would
he would admit this. Can I even say this? Like
he has like two distinct personalities too. He's not mean
like Steve, but he can definitely get like short fused
and then be like the sweetest loving brother. Ever, what's
(09:36):
his sign? I know, I was just thinking that isn't
he and he's like, yeah, which I don't It doesn't
I don't know. It's more like a Gemini. Yeah, yeah,
he's more like a Gemini. Maybe he should see if
his rising is Gemini or maybe he was a premie
and he came like a few months early. You're supposed
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to be a Gemini. I don't you know what My
favorite thing is when we when we all just make
up backstories and and things. We just makeup stories we
don't need. Who needs truth? That our version. There's there's
a the truth and then there's our version, and there
you go. You pick which is more interesting? Duh. This
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was the first episode, Well that's the first episode season
two where we see Jackie and I was so excited
to see Jackie Taylor on screen. I don't know, I
just love that woman. She and Gillespie plays Jackie Taylor,
and she's so great and I just have the fondest
memories working with her. She Yes, what a beauty like,
(10:43):
just a beautiful soul, just a good person. How old
was she when we started? I always asked that about
the parents because there aren't like we're the same age now,
but it's just our memories of them are when we
were teenagers. So and she had to been in her thirty, right,
I would be. I would guess she was a young mom.
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I feel like she was young, like Kelly's mom was
a young mom. Does she feel like a mom do you?
Or just a co worker? No, she felt like a
big sister to me more and I and I I
don't know. I just always really um. Even in this episode,
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Kelly's kind of taking care of her mom a little
bit and keeping her own track, making her accountable. And
h I just remember whenever we would do whenever I
would do scenes with her, I would feel the real,
the real feelings of a daughter who wants her mom
to be good and stay healthy and and you know,
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and so I just remember that was a great working
experience working with her. But I feel like in general,
none of the parents parented us on set. Does that
make sense? I guess I guess we're mom age now
like when we play moms do we parents? Teens? On
the your kids? We're like cool, No, I'm like, not
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my problem. I see you guys later. I got enough
to deal with it. Oh, thank you very much. And
I love it when when Jackie and Kelly are sitting
there checking out the guys together. That's so cute. I
kind of feel like I do that with my kids
a little bit like him. I mean, not stop it,
(12:28):
tell me more, but not just haven't say it? Stop
it for them Bill the j you know, I just
want to I want to find a cutie pie for them.
Oh my god, what do you wait? I got to
hear this part. I'm this I've never witnessed. Okay, so
there's a cute boy walking by. What do you say? No,
(12:52):
I'm just kidding. Sad part is, I don't think you're lying. No,
I don't say I'll throw up if she says your
daughter say hello? I did just say hello to the boy,
or just like to us to my daughter, like hello,
(13:14):
like's what do you think? Like that? That's really cute. Actually,
they're all they're all a little boy crazy, so it works.
That's cute, though, why is mine not? Well, they're crazy.
It could be several reasons. One of them is she's
not quite old enough yet. True the younger ones, but
(13:35):
like Stella's turning thirteen, and I kind of, I mean,
even though Fiona is a little bit older, Like I
kind of based them together, and I'm always like, Fiona
has a boyfriend, Fiona like, and Fiona did not have
a boyfriend she did, remember, No, she just had a
boy that gave her some jewelry. Yeah, okay, right, they
(13:58):
were he wanted to be your boyfriend. Better of bearings
at that age, right, but remember at that age what
we would say, like that's my boyfriend, and like you
never saw each other, but you just had the title.
Yeah I was talking a week and I have later
you broke up, but yeah that was your boyfriend, like
you talk at night or just see him at school,
and he was your boyfriend because he asked you like
will you be my girlfriend? And then that was it.
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You gotta teacher, you gotta you gotta teach her. Kelly
taught me how to be assertive and get what she wants.
I mean, in this episode, you see her going after
what she wants, and I am a believer in all
aspects of that. If you want something, go out and
get it manifestation. So I do. I say, it's still like, oh,
(14:41):
that boy's cute, and she's like, oh, I'm like okay,
and then I feel like defeated. So you've got to
ask her what's her type? Because maybe you're wrong target, No,
you're the cool aunt like you ask her because they don't.
I mean mine doesn't. My youngest doesn't really like like
the football guy. She wants the waify, feminine little guy
(15:06):
that she can. I don't know what break him or something.
I don't know, but she's like into like, you know,
he's the guy who's the guy that Timothy Timothy Shellomy
Timothy dollobys really into that body frame though might not
know who that is. You guys, I'm totally behind Timothy Shellomy.
It's delightful. What I think he's cute? Yes, okay, what's
(15:29):
he from a million movies? I'm so backwards. Okay. So
my daughter is very into um, Harry Potter, So she
thinks Drake they Slytherin like they all love, which makes
me nervous. See, so they're starting him. I can't the
bad name, I can't remember, but he's rank something, Drake
(15:52):
the bottle, he's the head Slytherin dude, and um, Fiona
just recently went through a major phase where it was
all about Draco Malfoy and uh and I didn't get
it and she was like, no, I think he's still
cute because she followed him on Instagram or something and
he's like a grown man. No, And I said, you
(16:14):
now he's cute now and she was like yeah, totally. Um,
that just makes me nervous because that means like mine's
already like going towards the cool bad boys instead of
like why did you like Harry Potter, like you know,
a little redheaded friend. I went on cameo because it's
(16:35):
Stella's birthday coming up, and I was like, oh, now
there's cameo Like you can book celebrities to give video
shout outs, so I like, I was like, anyone Harry
Potter on here? And he was, but for like a
thirty second video shout out, it's like five plus from
Harry Potter. Oh that maybe that'd be more Drake Drake
O'Malley's sliding into my d M help me out with
(17:04):
a birthday gift for my daughter. Oh my goodness. Oh sorry,
back to the show. So, yeah, there's a lot of
great stuff going on at the Beach Club in this episode,
and then there's Shakespeare Week at drama class. This stressed
me out bad. You guys, what do you mean because
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getting Shakespeare, I don't know. I'm just it's not my
jam like as an actor. And so I'm an acting
class on nine and I was like, oh, and then
at Shakespeare week and I was like, oh crap, that's
like me trying to do you know, I can't do
a British accent, Like, yeah, imagine me doing Shakespeare, Lisa.
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There's a semi comedic twist. You guys got to make
it fun. Yeah, thank god. The drama teacher didn't really
like it, though he's Judgy, right, he's that actor those
actor types. Well, I thought you made an acute, an
adorable Romeo though that giant feather on your head. I
(18:10):
went on many more times to play a boy and
n sorry not a spoiler, but a spoiler you'll see
coming up seem to see Donnan David doing scenes. Brian
was always very fun when we got to do like
really like out there like comedy scenes together. So that
was always fun because we got to do that rather
(18:32):
than being like the flirty stuff which comes later, which
is always nerve racking for me. So that stuff was
fun or the drama stuff. Yeah, yeah, But I didn't
get the sense in this episode. I don't know if
this is was like art imitating life, I don't know,
but I got the sense that Brenda did not care
(18:56):
for Andrea one bit. I feel like this is and
it started to happen and then it kind of like
was all downhill from here. I feel like they really
wanted to have a friendship with those two, but then
something just like the writers could tell it wasn't clicking,
and then they're like apport mission. Yeah, you know what though, guys.
The boom the boom again three times. The boom was
(19:21):
in the shot three times, and it was at the
beach twice, and one of them was when people were
walking down the beach, like do walking down the beach
and then a giant fuzzy thing comes down from the
sky and it's in the scene while they're walking. It
was a shark flying in It was Sharknado before Sharknado
(19:42):
I mean, I'm beginning to understand why the soundman was
always screaming at the boom guy, really making him a
lot more sense now it was his son. Yeah, oh yeah,
our boom guy robo. I love that you pick these
things out every episode because, like Sis, I like, I
never see it. I could watch it back every time
(20:02):
and I would never see what she sees. She has
a great eye for that. It's you know, it's almost
like a fetish. It is it is. It's annoying boom fetish.
It sort of takes the fun out of Like I
was just to there and we were watching something, and
I was just like obsessing on the production value. And
then it just sort of takes the fun out of
watching something because my mind will analyze it and like say, oh,
(20:24):
that's it over the shoulder, and then they're gonna go
in for a close up and there's their two shots,
and that guy was too far away from camera for
off camera lines, Like my mind just walked up. I
don't know, Yeah, I'm too invested in the fact that
Dylan is spending the night at the Walshes and it's
like one door over from Brenda's room. Because you love
your some Brendan Dylan. Yeah. I think these were just
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like my first romances that I would see as a
kid on TV and so you as a child, which
I was, um, you never experienced that in real life,
so to see it, it was like I was taking
notes at nine year old and he was shirtless in
this episode a lot. Oh yeah, and uh, I don't
(21:10):
know if you guys noticed, but I felt like Cindy
was kind of smitten with the shirtless Dylan in her
son's bedroom. That was art because we know she told
us she was like, I have a crush on him.
Oh my god. That was acute. At she couldn't even
hide it. She was like acting like with him, and
she's like just fluster her, just like, here's your dinner.
(21:36):
I think we have a surprise guest in the waiting
room for you, Tori, for me. Yeah, we're ready, it's
go time. You ready? Shall we tell her who I did?
I hate surprises? Yeah. Deborah Goodrich Royce, who was in
last week's episode and she played Sandy and you, oh
(22:00):
my god, is also looked good for this. You know
I'm gonna freak out. Now's your chance you get to
meet her and ask her all the questions about that
movie that you loved. Oh my god, I'm gonna freak
out right now. Oh my god, there she is. Thank
(22:26):
you for having me. Oh my gosh, I love you
so much. You're in my favorite movie. Like it's my
favorite horror film, one of my favorite horror films of
all time. Like I talked about April Fool's Day, and
I don't know if you saw the remake. Do you
see the remake? I did not. It was not good
and sorry whoever made it, but like it, no one
(22:48):
could live up to what you guys did in April
Fol's Day was my favorite thing of all time. Sorry,
Well that was Fred Walton. He was really something. Did
you ever see When a Stranger Calls? That was really
his breakout movie with Carol Kane. You know that famous
movie where she's the babysitter and the punchline is, you know,
get out of the house. No, he's upstairs called the
(23:08):
children are called coming from inside the house. Sorry, that
was exactly it. So that was Fred and um the
writer of that was a guy called Danillo Bach. I
think he did Beverly Hills Cup So he was a
writer of comedy and it was I think that. I
think it was the first I mean, I don't know,
(23:28):
kind of genre splitting. It was. What is that called.
I can't think of the name of it. It's kind
but comedy. It's way before Scream, you guys, way before,
which I think was very referential to it. I don't know.
I always called it a tongue in cheek horror film,
but that's not a name of a genre. We can
(23:50):
call it a horridy Yes like that? Yeah, I do
like that. Um, And I gotta say, I mean, for
anyone that hasn't see in April fool State, you've got
to watch it. And you guys were way ahead of
your time before Blair Witch, which had or sixth cents,
which had a surprise ending, because this was the surprise
(24:10):
ending to end it all. Literally, that's right, and a
f I. The American Film Institute just featured it in April,
and so did the Hollywood Reporter. They were doing kind
of a roundup of nine one years of film because
they're in the business one years, and they picked that
as one of the films of which is kind of
(24:32):
a long, you know, thirty plus year reward. Because I
don't think it was very well understood when we did it.
I agree with you, but I think I think what
it was is people weren't expecting the comedy in it
um so maybe they were like, wait, what's happening? It was,
(24:52):
I don't know, it's so good. I always use that
as a reference of that movie. I tell her all
the time, like April fol Day, April fool State. Okay,
and way, sorry, we'll go back to nine o two one. No,
now you you were you played Sandy a little love
interest moment for Brandon. I did. It was at that
beach club, so your whole storyline had moved down to
(25:14):
that beach and I was older, which I am older.
I'm still older, I mean age at the same rate.
We're catching up to you. Yeah. No, I don't know
if you ever will unless I die. And oh no,
the story was, yeah, he was working there and I
was of a lower class, so I didn't quite fit
(25:37):
in with the whole Beverly Hills scene. One of my
strongest memories is I was a new mom at that
point and I was living way over in Atwater Village
and the husband of a friend of mine, and maybe
he was a grip. Anyway, he had a very cool
(25:59):
old Volkswagen Feedle convertible, and that got to be my car.
And then that's right, so that happened to have been
the car of someone I knew, just coincidentally in a weird,
small world. And did you drive that car to work
that day? No? No, I probably he did. I guess,
(26:20):
Oh my goodness, well it suited Sandy nicely. Jen coined
Sandy last our last episode as a sex slave. I
wasn't sure, what's a caller? We were like Seve and see,
you know, I lost the thread because I wasn't sure
(26:42):
you was still talking about that character. Well, it was
just shocking because I was all in for the storyline
with Sandy and Brandon. Then all of a sudden, you're
in the red dress looking amazing, walking up the stairs,
and I was like, what is happening? What's she doing
(27:02):
in that dress? Well, you know, when you're the actor,
they never tell you. You You just kind of figure it out,
you can. I ask you a question, did you have
to bring any of your own wardrobe? Because we're just
curious because a lot of guest stars have told us
they had to bring their own wardrobe. You know, I
was just looking at it today and I think that
(27:24):
pink waitress kind of little mock turtlenext thing was mine.
I do I remember that. What about the head bands, Yeah,
we're dying to know because of the wind why the
big headbands. We couldn't figure it out a lot of them.
I think maybe it was an attempt of the style.
(27:45):
I don't know if it was interesting, Okay, Yeah, we
made up a whole storyline that maybe it was like
very windy one of the first scenes. So they put
it and it made it a character choice. After that,
we didn't know. We didn't know. But you've had such
an interesting career, Uh, done so many great things. You
you played, um, what was the name of the Kane
(28:08):
Erica Kane's sister. Yeah, I played Silver Kane, a very
realistic name. It's such a good one. Now, it's a
very good one. That could be your hooker or poorn name.
Back change a bit of that. No, it was a
really it was kind of a cool storyline. So she
(28:29):
was the sister of, you know, the Susan Lucci character
the Diva soap operas, And they took it from the
old film All About Eve if you remember that with
Betty Davis and and Baxter where Betty Davis in that
case was the Broadway star and and Baxter comes in,
as you know, her assistant and tries to take over
(28:51):
her life. So they just imported that storyline to the
soap opera. The fans loved it. When my so interesting though,
when I was reading up about you, is that you
then moved on to becoming a story editor. I did.
So what happened was I had a couple of kids
in the early nineties and my first husband, who grew
(29:13):
up in Paris, had the opportunity to go back there
for work. And for me, at that point, the bloom
was off the rows with acting. I mean it was
I had two little kids, and those were the days
when you would get a call to pick up a
script at six o'clock in the evening and you'd have
to drive an hour to get it. I mean, nobody
was emailing you a script nineties. And when this opportunity
(29:37):
came up, we went and it was there the first transition.
I re hired by a French film studio. Kind of plues.
They were looking for native English English speaking readers. All
studios keep readers on their payroll. You know, it's a
freelance job. And what you do is you read the
(29:58):
novel that's being submitted or a screenplay. If it's complete,
you synopsize it for the studio executives and you do
a page of analysis and comments. And then in the
movie business you always have to say what it's like,
you know, is it April Full's Day meets Gone with
the Wind? What is this thing? That was really cool job?
(30:21):
My my kids were little, I was living in Paris. Um,
I was doing that, and then my first husband was
hired by Julia Roberts. She had just done a deal
at Disney with Joe Roth, one of those development deals
which were very popular then. So we came back for
him to be her head of her little company. And
(30:45):
I was hired by Harvey Weinstein to be the story
editor at Merrimax. You want to ask anything about that? Yes, yeah,
so it's a funny thing. Um, I write thrillers and
I write identity thrillers. This is now you're a big author.
(31:06):
I'm a writer and I am very fascinated by this
concept of who people are really, what they reveal and
what they conceal, which is far more interesting. And in
terms of Harvey, I had a great experience in my
years at Merrimax. For me, it was like my writing school.
I had no experience of that aspect of him. I
(31:28):
don't doubt the women. I don't condone his behavior, but
I think people can exist in in compartmentalized ways. And
the experience I had in those years at Merrimax, it
was really a heyday there. And I learned so much
getting to edit the work of far greater writers than
(31:50):
I was. So I'm appreciative of that time, and I just,
you know, I can't really comment on all the Do
you think that doing that kind of work sparked your
interest to become an author? Yeah? Absolutely, And I spent
a long time kind of as a, you know, an
(32:12):
unannounced writer. I was in writing groups, I wrote a screenplay,
I got a grant for the screenplay. I put it
in a drawer. And there was an when I remarried
and moved to Connecticut where I lived now my husband,
who child, who's a really interesting person in the finance
(32:35):
world and a very creative person. There was a beautiful
nine cinema and Stanford, Connecticut, which is the next town now,
where he said, let's buy it and restore it and
I said, well, I don't really know anything about that
side in the movie business. He said, let's do it.
So we bought a movie theater. We restored it, beautiful cinema,
(32:57):
and that became a weird or in the next stage
of writing. So Gene Wilder lived in Stanford. Bilder Radner
had this beautiful farmhouse in North Stanford. She died, she
left it to him. He remarried this wonderful woman, Karen,
and I got to know them as a couple of
(33:17):
my husband and I did and they became very involved
with the Avon and he would come every autumn for
a decade, and he had a series called Wilder's Picks,
and he would present, over a period of three months,
two classic films and then one of his own, which
would always have a mob scene because he was so incredible.
(33:38):
In the process of our email relationship, he said one
day to me, are you a writer? I think you're
a writer, and I said, oh, well, you know, gosh,
g kind of sort of and very generously he said,
I would be honored to read anything you've written. So
I sent him this screenplay, very encouraging, and every time
(34:01):
I talked to him after that, he would say, are
you writing? Yeah, so screen turns around. I am in
my fifties by then, my youngest child and you beautiful
younger women with houses full of children. My youngest child launched,
(34:22):
and I felt like, as much as I loved raising
my children, I felt like I got a huge chunk
of real estate in my brain back but I have
been writing all along but tiny pieces of saying, short stories,
and suddenly there was this expansiveness of time where I
(34:42):
could sit completely in that cone of silence and get
into my head or out of my head or whatever
you want to call it. So I decided to tell
people I was writing a book. And my husband, who's
very charmingly humble, he was like, oh my god, I
wouldn't do that if I were you. You know what
if you don't finish, And I thought, it's okay. If
(35:04):
I don't finish, I will be able to say I
didn't finish. I mean, I wasn't making, you know, public announcements.
I was telling my friends, So, Zelie, you were holding
yourself accountable, like you were putting it out there exactly,
because up until then, all that kind of backdoor writing
hadn't really manifested. Is anything, So I said it, I'm writing.
(35:27):
You say I'm a writer? Yet you sure? Did you
have a new is this book that's out right now?
Ruby Falls? Is that a new book? Ruby Falls? Is
that right now? And my name Mrs Ford came out
two years ago? And yeah, so that's that's where we are.
Your cover artwork is beautiful. Yes, it's really cool. You know,
(35:52):
I'd love to talk to you about So Ruby Falls,
this one, it's a really cool story. There's a photographer
named Melanie will Hide and she was doing a show
in California. I think she was in Pasadena and her
computer was stolen and it took three weeks for the
police to find it. And when they did find it,
(36:14):
and she tried to retrieve her body of work, it
had all of those weird like pieces disjointed. So she
created a show all around that and she dedicated it
to her thief, to Adrian Rodriguez with love. And the
photograph was part of the show. It wasn't a stolen image,
(36:37):
but it was an image that she created. And Ruby
Falls is about a girl who's probably a little bit
on glued. So what I like about the cover it's
both beautiful and it's disturbing. Those are two wonderful characteristics,
especially in storytelling. Well that everybody. I want to make
(36:59):
sure everybody know that they can order Ruby Falls on
Amazon dot com. Should definitely check it out because it
sounds like a fascinating story. M thank you. Yeah, it's
a lot of fun. Thank you so much for being
with us. Truly a delight. Debora, You're amazing. We love
you so it's wonderful to see you. M Are you
(37:33):
happy now? I'm I mean like a pig and poop,
I'm so happy. I love her so much. Oh my gosh,
huge man about amazing, empowering woman. I wish we had
more time with her, like I would love to talk
to her about like what happens when you're a leading
lady and a beautiful woman and you choose to go
(37:54):
from in front of the camera too behind the camera.
It sounds like a lovely life you've lived, peaceful, just
her and her writing like that she had me at
Paris when she had that life in Paris? Good? Well
do you think that was exciting? Get a load of
Who's next? You know who's the next guest? Right you are?
(38:17):
David Lasher Kyle and I say Nuno like, we don't
know the show, Like, that's our show, David, David, are
you there? So excited to see him? There he is?
Hey there, Wow, Hi guys. Hi, time to see decades.
(38:38):
Oh my god, I just felt like I was in
the nineties again. We are nice to see you, guys.
Still such a beautiful smile. Look at him. You guys
don't look so bad either. Thank god. That going for
Where are you, David? Where are you residing now? I
(38:58):
am home in the hills and Studio City. We're all
valley people now, you know, I was going to get
Studio City just from your living room. I don't know why.
It was like on the tip of my tongue when
you were saying it. I don't know what it is.
It has like that movie the way the Light Shining in.
I'm proud of it. Yeah, you have little kids, right,
(39:21):
I see a little table back there. How old are
your kids? Well, my youngest is she just turned eleven,
so she doesn't well she still uses that, but that
table is suspicious. Then. Yeah, I have an eighteen year
old who's going to college next year and a sixteen
(39:43):
year old. Wow, do they know that their dad was
a teen idol um. You know, they they're aware they
haven't seen nine O two one oh though, Uh, but
yeah they you know, I think Sabrina is on Hulu,
so they in that and Blossom? Did they see Blossom? Uh?
(40:05):
Yeah that Uh. I don't know. My stuff doesn't hold
up as well as I wish it would, but they
would definitely have to like our episodes on those summer episodes.
Oh my gosh, what do you mean? You were such
a teen heart through definitely some multiple platforms. I gotta say, like,
(40:27):
you know, of all the things I've done, and I've
been fortunate enough to be involved in some shows that
have had great success, I've never experienced anything like that summer. Uh.
When we shot and and those episodes were seen by
I mean everyone, it was crazy. I can't imagine what
you guys were going through. So you were in episode
(40:51):
three of season two and then again on in what
episode I think I did you? I don't know. I
was the possibly gay boyfriend of Kelly and uh, and
then I was question yeah no, I mean at the time,
(41:14):
I didn't realize that it was definitely a brave script
to put out there. Right, you pop up an episode
twenty of season two, and then back in season three,
episode ten, right, and that one was like a football
team using steroids, but you were still Kyle. Yeah, I
was still on the football team and now I was
also using steroids. So, oh my gosh, You're all over
(41:38):
the place, Kyle. They just loved you and wanted to
bring you back, keep putting you in storylines. But it
is controversial. Like back in the nineties, like when you
auditioned for the show, Um, did you know that Kyle
the Journey Kyle was going to make? No, I actually
was doing another show for your dad, Jack of Hearts,
(42:01):
in Las Vegas, So you didn't audition. You got to
part sorry, right right, so your dad. When that show
we only did like six episodes. We had the best
time in Vegas. I mean we lived at Caesar's Palace
for like three months. I had forgotten about that show. Yeah.
The whole time, He's like, you have to meet my daughter,
You have to meet my daughter, trying to set you up.
(42:24):
Oh my god, David. We were literally and David and
I became good friends, like you were like when we
worked together, you were like one of my Like I
wanted to say homies. Who says homies, but you know
what I mean. I was trying to make it clear
like it wasn't like a love thing, but like we
like definitely like we're friends and hung out and that's
so funny. We were just talking about how parents trying
(42:45):
to set their kids up. I guess my dad tried
to set me up with you. What was the problem
by giving me the role on your show? Um when
that other show didn't work out? I think it was
actually like a setup getting that part. Do you remember that,
like doing those scenes especially? I want to know if
(43:05):
you remember the jogging scene on the beach with U
see Sanders, where you're jogging down the beach wearing white pants. Yeah,
the fashion probably does not hold off. Wait whatever, why
didn't you go out with me? I'm so confused. You
(43:27):
you might have actually had a boyfriend. I know Jenny
had that boyfriend dan uh that was became my husband.
She married that one other quickly, and so if Jenny
had damn, that means I was going out neck That
was that time. It was there was someone in my way.
(43:48):
I remember, Oh man, I think of what could have been.
It was such a special time though I had just
moved to l a and I remember like getting on
the PC a h those days to go film those episodes.
I was like, you know, as soon as I saw
the ocean. Lastly my music. You know, Luke and I
were friends beforehand, but you all were so like welcoming
(44:12):
and gracious and spawn and just so cool. I was like,
you know, this whole place is awesome. It was was
really cold when we filmed the scenes on the beach.
We remember it like overcasting probably really and then we
had to wear kiinis. I mean, you've got to our pants, lucky,
but you had some shorts on there for the for
(44:37):
the volleyball scenes. Yeah, yeah, you do. You so you
have fond memories. That's good. We're always happy to hear
when people have fond memories of being on the show.
Exactly do you know, Jessica Alba, I was just kidding.
Um uh. You guys remember that summer though, because I
(44:59):
think there was like when that show blew up. Yeah,
you were there when we actually became a success because
we weren't the first season, so you were there when
it all kind of just took off. Yeah, and then
you were on the cover of Rolling Stone. I remember
being like, whoa, this is Um, that was Shannon, Jason
and Luke not us, but yeah we remember, ouch, we
(45:21):
just like to play hairs. It was insane. So then
you went on to just all kinds of great work
after that, Sabrina The Teenage Witch, and so many other
things you've done. And now you're this is the coolest part.
You're directing, your writing, directing and producing your own project. Yes,
in its second season. Well, the first season was for
(45:44):
Facebook Watch, and this new season is for a new
streaming service called fick Though. It's an app um and uh,
you know, it's like what Quimby was trying to do.
This is like round two. It's called thick Though. This
shows called Cruisers and Shakers and it's a comedy series
about young adults living in and exploiting the shared economy,
(46:08):
you know, in every way driving and task Rabbit and
just you know, I watched the trailer for it. It It
looks really funny. Oh thank you. Yeah, we're excited. I'm
really proud of it. And uh yeah, I've been writing
and directing for a while. Now. Do you like that
more than being a heart throb? Uh? Yeah, I like
it because I'm more in control of it. Yeah, it's
(46:32):
supposed to like, oh, please give me a job. After
a while, when you have kids, it's like I wait
for an audition or you know this, I could, I
could always write another script, I could go sell something.
I could, you know, and then once in a while
you put something together and uh, you know. I have
my first film that I wrote and directed is called Sister,
and it's on Prime video right now. It was on
(46:54):
Showtime for a year exclusive, but it's it's also I'm
really proud of that film. Oh I want to check
that out. I saw the ad for it. Yeah, it's
a like sort of semi autobiographical about my youngest sister
and it's got issues about over diagnosing kids with disorders
(47:16):
like a d h D, all the all the medication
that comes along with that. You're such an inspiration because
you're so inspiring because you know, as actors, you're right,
it sucks you have to You can just sit and
wait for the phone to ring and wait for that
next audition, that next role to present itself to you,
or you can go out there and get what you
(47:36):
want and make things happen. And that's really admirable. Yeah.
I mean, but you know, you guys, as well, whether
it's on the business side or whatever. You when you
grow up, you have to can't just sit around, right,
You have to try and make things happen. David was
on Clueless too, used to the series. You're on the series? Yes,
the series? Yeah, yeah, that one. I all Scott the
(48:00):
movie and Amy and I had become friends, so I
guess as the consolation prize whatever. A year or two later,
she offered me the role on the series. I mean,
it's a pretty good consolation. It was fun. I mean,
Stacy Dash she was on it, Donald Phase on a
Lisa Donovan, who's still a close friend. A lot of
(48:22):
was on our show. Oh my gosh. Wait. So I'm
sure you get recognized all the time still, Like which
of your nineties projects do people recognize you the most
from and what do they say? Do they say, I
feel like, I know, did we go to high school together?
Or what? What do they say? It depends on the age,
(48:44):
Like there's definitely the whole nine oh two, one oh
uh contingency and they're, you know, sort of like my
own age, and then there's people that are younger than me.
I did a show for for Nickelodeon called Hey dude,
Oh my gosh. It was a scripted comedy series that
ran for a few seasons. It was my first thing
(49:05):
I ever did, and it has the most loyal fan base.
If you know, if someone was between eight and twelve,
they watched this show. Yeah, I mean there's still like
I can't even believe it. But because you're born, You're
(49:25):
born in seventy two, right, you were the same age?
Are your seventy two year here? She's not. Here's a
big birthday. I don't want to. Let's talk about it, David.
Let's talk about let's talk about let's do some games
or something with David. Should we should? Yeah, we have
some rapid fire questions that we'd like to ask our guests.
(49:46):
So it's just kind of like the first thing that
comes to your mind. Favorite character, onto a Dylan nice,
all right, favorite cast member, No pressure by the way,
here yea to be one of us. Honestly, Luke was
my friend before the show, and he just had such
(50:09):
open arms for me in every which way, you know,
coming to l A and being on the show. So
but I love all you guys seriously. Good. Okay, what
about a favorite memory? Favorite memory? I mean I remember
the night scenes on the beach and all of us
just kind of hanging out. I mean we smoked a
lot of cigarettes back then. Just don't tell my kids. Yeah,
(50:36):
everyone everyone did. I feel like on that said it
was like the thing to do. Yeah. Well you you
kind of like bummed a drag or two off of
your friend's cigarette and you would do these close scenes together.
That's why they made Banka. Yeah, they had all kinds
of Yeah. I remember the night scenes and those shoots
(50:58):
being a lot of fun. I was like in heaven.
It was good times. All right. Final question, this one
is tough. Kiss Mary or kicked to the curb? Out
of all the characters characters Nato, who would you kiss?
Who would you marry? And since you were Kyle, you
(51:19):
can go either gender? Really, you can whatever you want. Yeah, okay, right, sorry, sorry, God,
you ask everyone these questions. Just you just you imagine
(51:39):
we said David's coming on, We've got to really stump him. Um,
I guess I would kiss yeh was it Kelly or
what was to Donna? Kelly or Donna? You should go
for Donna. She's got good lips. Okay, I'll go with
(52:03):
kiss Donna, because you know, that was meant to be. Uh,
and Uh, I'd probably marry Uh. Oh gosh, Andrea Brenda.
Yeah yeah, uh Andrea. Oh nice because she was smart,
so setting herself up for having smart kids again, level headed. Uh,
(52:29):
you can kick me to the curb, kick me to
the curb, just do it. I know where do you
think Kelly is? I mean, I think she should be.
I think that she was a good friend to Kyle,
so I don't don't really see her being kicked at
the curb. But if you want to kick me to
the curb, that's what a good friend would do. I
would take it for you. Um No, I don't know.
(52:52):
I I don't know who I kicked to the curb.
Who would you kick to the curb? It was messed
out of that group. I would kick um just because
he was such a jerk in this episode. I would
kick Steve to the curb. Yes, I agree, Yeah, I think.
I think when we played this initially, I think Donna,
(53:13):
I mean Donna, I kicked Steve to the curb too.
He's gotten kicked around a little and the nicest let
you passed the rapid fire questions. You're glad that's over.
Thank you? David, You're so fun. Thanks for coming on
our show. Thanks you guys, so great to see you,
get to catch up. I can't believe it's been this long.
(53:35):
We were super excited for you to come on. Yes,
everybody should check out your show though on ficto. Right,
that's the name of the app. Yeah, it's um the
app and the show is called Cruisers and Shakers. Check
it out. I love it. Keep up the good work, David. Alright,
(53:57):
Kyle Connors, I love you By. It's nice to meet
you By. How is it that he had just stay
so good looking? But you know what, we know this happens.
Men just get better and better looking with age if
they're already cute, right, Like, but I feel better. He
(54:17):
was always so cute, but like he's like, he's really handsome,
burning love handsome. Yes, if I spot them at him,
the terrible you're gonna eyes opened for the old Kyle
belly and all should be like, hello, Hello, Well, should
we go on and talk about a little bit of
(54:39):
fashion or or do we want to go straight to
questions because we're we might be running a little long.
I don't know. I think we should talk about Kelly's
red halter top because was it a bathing suit? Was
it a halter top? Well, both both of us were
in our bikinis in this episode. Wash, those were the
(55:02):
days I didn't bother. You did it, and you guys
had amazing bones. I don't think it bothered us. Now
do you remember even thinking twice about it? It was
just like, okay, yes I can. I can always remember
being self conscious of my body but so beautiful. And
(55:24):
now look now I'm thinking, what the hell was I
so worried about. I think all teenage girls feel that
same way that I look back in my teenage years
and I hated being in a bikinian. Now I would
kill for that book. I was worried about the neck up.
I was fine with the neck down, Like, god, your
neck up was the best part. Yeah, that was. I
(55:47):
think that was a halter like a shirt that wasn't
a bathing suit. The red thing. And I know what
your favorite fashion moment was was the was Iron's I
mean Steve's crop top. Yeah, it really is. I han't
you guys, I can't. I just want him to worry
but on here because I want him to explain and
defend it. Yeah, for sure, that's right. What about favorite
(56:11):
line from the episode? It's so good. You got a
favorite line? Really? I do? I have one from Brenda?
She said to be a bit or not to be
a bitch? That is the question. That's a good question
to ask yourself from Time to talk. Do you do
you think that started? I hate Brenda fan club right there?
(56:32):
I don't know, but I also liked when Kelly said
to Kyle, you want to have some fun of the
not so serious kind. I like them cute and flirty, flirty.
Brenda had a good one. You know. The hardest thing
I've ever had to do is trying to stay away
from you. And then she didn't stay away from him.
(56:56):
She did not that hard for her to keep making
out with it. Nope, you got any questions for us
this week? So I think these are short and sweet
and we can get through them really quickly. This is
from Phoenix, She says, what did Jenny think of how
honest Tory was in her books? From Phoenix? You mean
(57:16):
from Phoenix or from Phoenix? Phoenix? Her name is? That's
her name? Okay, what's her name? Phoenix? I have never
read Tories books. Unfortunately, I'm not an avid reader. I've
seen all of them. I love the cover, especially the
one with your hair. Remember the poofy hair, like a
low pony tail and poof hair. I love that hairstyle
on you. But I've never read any of your books.
(57:38):
But Tori is always honest, so I'm I feel like
I not surprised. I live in her book. I don't know,
I'm not surprised mage out of my book. All right,
this is from Tammy. Did anyone date each other seriously
from the cast? Date seriously? Read my books? Thanks? Um
(58:04):
Tiffany and Brian dated seriously, Tiffany. No, Brian and Vanessa
dated seriously, um Ban and Christine, Jason and Christie. Tiffany. Yes,
Brian and Tiffany and then Brian. Right when Tiffany came
(58:25):
onto the show, she and Brian were all ready together,
but then they broke up. Yeah, I think, yeah, that's
got that. I think that was a hard situation, having
to be young, a young couple navigating like just moving
in together and then like being on a huge, big
show together and working every day. But I feel like
(58:45):
that's it as far as like serious dating amongst the
and then I want you, Yeah, you dated Vince she'd
like to forget that three years. What that was a
long time. That was a serious dating situation then ish
yeah h and none for you not. I was always
(59:10):
married or having a baby. I was ever really dated anyone. Alright,
So our next episode is episode for Anaconda. Be sure
to watch it before next week. Anaconda. Don't want none
unless you got buns on.
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