March 22, 2021 • 66 mins
This episode is almost too hard for Jennie and Tori to re-watch 30 years later knowing how this 90210 storyline became a reality for Shannen Doherty.
It brought them both to tears.
In this episode, they discuss the importance of the scene where they do breast self-exams but at the same it was quite a challenge for them to shoot. Fortunately, the episode has some levity for them as they fangirl over the kiss between Andrea and Steve. (Gabrielle and Ian)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys.
We are back with another episode of O two one
OMG with my favorite people, Jenny Garth and Sissony. Hi
you guys, ladies. So happy to say is pretty ladies happy,
(00:27):
whatever day of the week it is tal y'all, Hm,
who knows when you're listening to this? I don't know,
nobody knows, but we're happy that you're with us, that's
for sure. Gosh so much you guys. The outpouring of
love for our podcast has been amazing, and I'm just
gonna say it, thanks for all of our stars. You
(00:49):
like us, You really like us. Oh, the stars are
so shiny. It's really nice. We're trying, we're trying really
hard to do a good podcast through guys, and you know,
we show up every week, we do our homework and
sisanse always so happy to see us, and we're happy
to see you guys. So that's a baby on board.
(01:11):
She has fifty million jobs and look at her. She
has youth on her side. And you know what I
realized today is that my weeks of pregnancy are matching
up with the week that we're on that episode. So
stop it. So today we're talking about episode eighteen, and
I am eighteen weeks pregnant. Crazy stuff happens all the time.
(01:37):
That's just weird like that, like little little signs that
you're exactly where you're supposed to be. Thank you, Thank
your husband for shooting it that day. Oh my god. Okay,
eighteen weeks ago. Well this was episode, like you said, eighteen,
(01:58):
it's only a test a date March nine. The synopsis
is Brenda is filled with horror when she discovers a
lump in her breast, which calls for a biopsy. Meanwhile,
the upcoming S A T S put extra pressure on everyone,
especially Andrea and Steam. Things heat up during a study
(02:19):
night together when an intimate moment happens between the two.
Don't done. Yeah, this episode started out with you know,
S A T frenzy, it's a test, the S A
T S. Everybody was stressing out about it, and quickly
(02:40):
kind of shifted gears into a different kind of test,
which was Brenda's um for rest examination test and she
had to go get a test at the hospital. So
I thought it was interesting the way they will have
these two storylines together. It was very clever that I'm
not going to allow you. Guys, this is the episode
(03:01):
I was kind of dreading coming up, um for obvious reasons.
With Shannon. It's you know, I know everyone thought about
it when when she had cancer. This was really hard
for me to watch, Like I had to actually use it.
Cry was a couple of times because it was just
(03:23):
too too close, man, too weirdly sinked in a not
good way. You know what is that called? That's like foreshadowing.
It was foreshadowing synchronicity. But yeah, but with outcome, obviously,
Chand's a warrior, she's a fighter, and she did you know,
(03:45):
she's resilient, she she bounces back. She's a fighter. And
I think Brenda is a fighter too, So those things
lined up in a positive way. But um, we've never
talked to Shannon about it, but I can't help but
know that must have thought about like, oh my gosh,
only all these years ago, thirty years ago, gosh, who
would have thought that you know, this would come true
(04:07):
thirty years later. Yeah. Yeah, we've never really said can
you believe that episode where Brenda thought she had a
lump and now you know that, Yeah, we've never really
addressed that. We should and of all the characters, you
know that. I mean obviously, I mean it lines up
that they would have done it with Brenda, you know,
one of the twins. But just the way it worked out, Um,
(04:30):
it's just kind of it's shocking. Yeah, I mean, even
without this sort of like weird synchronicity, the episode was
very dramatic and very like serious undertones. Yeah, thank goodness,
we had a little bit of comedic relief with um
Steve and Andrea. Thank you Ian Srin for always flying
(04:54):
us with that A little bed flipped that. Yeah. Yeah,
he was very very excited to plant his lips on Andrea.
You know what I love the most I got to
say is I mean, I'm gonna be honest. When we
filmed this episode, I thought to myself, Oh my gosh,
(05:16):
I mean I think I was like seventeen, like we
were teenagers, you and I. And I was like, I've
never checked my breaths, Like I would never even think
of it, you know, I didn't. I didn't know like
this can happen to a sixteen year old. And I
remember because we filmed that, like we had to do
it on the bed and they taught us. Um, I
definitely like that. After that, I always checked from that
(05:39):
day forward, and I think it's important, like teenagers watching
this today that are finding nine out two one oh now,
um too, it's relevant, like it's never too early to
start and it's such a great message and um, I
just think it's so important as women agree. Yeah, I
(05:59):
mean we were young, and I'm sure doing that on
the bed Kelly and Donna and Brenda was really awkward,
like you know, the crew guys all standing around, and
I'm sure that was uncomfortable but very very embarrassing. But also,
(06:22):
like you're saying, like super informative, very very helpful to
so many young women out there. And I mean I
mean hopefully, and I'm sure it did, but hopefully the
show just really helped a lot of people with this
that the way they wrote it in was really creative
to They had Kelly reading it out of a magazine,
which is what you did when you were in high
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school and your friends were over at your house. You
guys have through magazines and take the quizzes. And it
was because they then had the shot of the visual,
you know, like people could actually see what we were
talking about. Just a really home like this is how
you do it, you know. But to Jen's point, like,
(07:05):
keep in mind, you guys, we were three teenage girls,
all three of us were in our team still, and
imagine doing this in front of, predominantly at the time,
a male crew like you were saying, like, do you
remember what we felt like? Not like the actual physical
part felt like, but like mentally, you know. I was
just I was watching it and I was thinking, oh
my god, Kelly is unbuttoning her What is happening. She's
(07:28):
unbuttoning her shirt. I see there's all of her. And
I was getting really nervous. And then I thought, Okay,
grow up, she's she's just gonna do a breast exam.
And I felt like the characters really, even though we
were probably super uncomfortable, uh, we all did a really
good job of like not laughing. Like you know, there
(07:50):
was a little levity in it with your line tour
about aren't you glad you were a deoda in or something,
But I felt I felt like we delivered the message
as well as we could in that moment. There are
probably some giggles off camera because we were teen teen
(08:10):
girls having to touch our boobs on camera. Um, so
it's uncomfortable. I mean definitely, you know, I think it's
important that people do that behind the scenes and something
you would do with your friends if you're curious, but
in front of, you know, a whole crew, Like how
many crew members do you think would be on set
during something like that, just like right around us, like
the core, the grips, the electricians, the proper people, but
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many people at least at least at least So we're
just trying to set the stage and you know, three
teenage girls, this is all new to us. It's our
season one, you know, it wasn't a hit yet, and
we're like, oh my god, what is happening under the
spotlights of those huge, huge lights they had us under
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in a really bright room Kelly's bedroom, which was so
that was a lot like it's all the red and
the pink and the artwork of herself. Who's that is that? Kelly? Yeah?
That's that? Or those are pictures of Kelly on Kelly's
walls doing it in front of a crew at forty
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seven years old, and like, you know, I can't imagine
seventeen doing it, Like, oh wow, that's more awkward than
a love scene in a bed, really I I don't
think so. I hadn't done a love scene yet at
this point, so this was the closest for me at least. Okay,
(09:41):
I mean, I guess I hadn't done a love scene before.
That's a kiss that wasn't like a kiss in the
garage come on different. It was different. I don't know
neither of us. I don't we hadn't any of us.
Even Brenda hadn't done like love scenes on the show,
but Andrea Steve did. I keep coming back to it
(10:03):
because I'm sorry. It was interesting. My jaw dropped when
we did b h n oh two one out. I
don't know who brought it up, but the writers I think,
brought it up that Andrea and Steve had had this
love scene. And I don't think we remember this, and
we were like that never happened, that they never got
together that, but hello, they did. That's it? Is this
(10:23):
it or does it go further? I'm very curious to
Andrea and Steve hook up again. I don't think one
time special events one and one and done. We like
special events, limited special events, special little special relationship. But
she did look super cute. She did look super cute
(10:45):
there on the bed with her took off her glasses
hot for teacher, look like without your glasses. And he's all,
I mean manly in in his white tight T shirt
is tight acid washed jeans. He's just so confident and like,
oh no, I think I I as the fire of
(11:08):
that age. I'd be like, hi, so burly. I always
thought his room. Didn't he have like money behind him
on the giant dollar bills or something dollar bills. He
loved the money. But he was hot in that scene.
(11:30):
And then when she left he was sexy, so she
she was super sexy. Yeah right, and yes, of course
he like flipped over his bed and like laid down
on the couch. And then when he's laying on the couch,
right before that they cut to the next scene, you
can see him going like like doing the funniest like
(11:51):
like it was so cute and so iron like it
just you know, that's like one of those so many
times with um with I in it was Steve. Their
characters are so blended to me, like because he brought
so much of his humor and his like just love
ability to that character. I really want to meet him.
(12:13):
I really want him to come on the point we
want you to to. I saw this he posted. He
says he wants to do it, and he's active on
social media. He posted this video the other day of
his lunch, and I watched the whole thing and he
was making avocado toast with a poached egg. I watched
that entire thing. His voice is just so soothing, and
(12:37):
he was just so excited for his life. Was like watching,
you know, one of those like late night infomercial. Stop watching.
Like if if he had had that avocado and egg
toast for sale, you know what I actually was like,
is he going to put a link to the egg,
the egg, the hard boiled egg. Yeah, he had a
machine that makes that poaches the egg for him. He
(12:59):
doesn't have to put so, you know, irons a total entrepreneur.
If he was thinking straight, he should have put a
link to that because he would have sold them. Because
I was in I was like this with hard boiled eggs.
I don't know if I'm I would buy hard boiled eggs.
It was no, it was a poached egg, but he
overcooked it. He did. He did so slow and then
(13:19):
what one broke a little bit, and I was like,
you know, good for him. This is real, this is real,
which it never happens on Instagram. He didn't go back.
He kiss feed you know dad life, but I for
sure definitely long dam video. Now I know how I'm
going to spend the rest of my afternoon. Thanks guys.
Going back to a lot of olive oil though he
(13:41):
poured on it. Yeah, I think it went a little
overboard the end, but it's fine. The funny thing is
I was watching, I was like, God, are they our
pennant and and me, I'm gonna eat this? And I
was like nervous because I was like for young kids,
it was very adults. He had some salt and some
it was a lot not by the video stopped talking
(14:04):
about the sucking avocado tost video. I'm done. Sorry, Sorry,
Remember we were talking about all those like the five
stars we had and all, yeah, all the people lost
them just like that to the show. Sorry, I'm hungry.
I want to talk about the opening of the show,
just because there was just win particular one moment that
was like whoa, um, it's the nineties. There there's a
(14:27):
kid sitting outside the school before we But if Ford
ever really starts and he has the biggest, weirdest contraption
on his lap. I don't know what it looks like
a typewriter, but ginormous. And I'm not guessing that was
like the first ever laptop made ever by man. It's
(14:47):
like it was like like a caveman laptop. It was.
It was so huge. It definitely caught my eye. Yeah,
I had to like stop, stop the thing and rewind
and watch it rewind. Don't know, go back? What do
you say these days? Um? And then also another moment
in the show that brought me right back was that
(15:08):
when when Carol is in the kitchen and she has
a giant phone book. Do you guys see that? Like
we missed the giant phone by enormous yellow page and
they don't have that anymore. They don't have phone books anymore.
Where did all the phone books go? Isn't that sad?
I remember as a little kid, as a toddler, you
(15:29):
didn't take around booster seats and stuff, and you would
go into restaurants and they would bring out their phone
book and they would put it on the kid. You
would sit on its table or a booth. Not crazy.
And also there was that joke too, We're not the joke,
It's not a joke something about like I could listen
to him read the phone book. Oh yeah, Like that
(15:52):
means like somebody's just so good. You just want to
You don't care what they're saying, You just want to
listen to them. What would be the two thousand twenty
one version and that nobody talks to was gonna Dictionary?
But even that's like everything is digital. I could listen
to him read read it all day long. Yeah, there
you go. But yeah, Brandon says right out right out
(16:16):
of the gate, you can't study for the s a
t S. He's very advent about that, right, He's like says,
you can't study. You can but off for the s
A t S. Did you take that SAT S? No,
to him, I did horrible. Like I did so bad
that I had to take it again in hopes that
you get like a higher score, and it was like
(16:38):
forty points higher. And I was like, Okay, that's a
lot this acting thing works out. Now, that's a lot
of forty points, my girls. I mean, because that's the thing.
You can take it three times now and you like
pick your best score. But now colleges aren't even using
SAT scores for acceptably Yeah. Thing in the past. That's
going to be a thing of the past, unless you're
(16:59):
going for like, you know, a doctor, like some a doctor,
you know, if you're studying that. I think they don't
even look at test scores anymore. They didn't for my
daughter that applied this year. She did. She she was
given the option. You can either you know, send in
your chest results or you don't have to just send
in a do all the other things that you have
(17:20):
to do to apply and write a really good letter.
So like, yeah, I know, sis notes, we have to
take notes. That's going to happen to us one day
and me sooner than year. Oh my god, No, my
kid just turned guys, and I'm having a real hard
time with her. You know, I felt that on your Instagram.
I really feel like if you took a trip down
(17:43):
memory lane with all those pictures, oh my god, the
cutest pictures ever finding all day you guys. I don't
know what was wrong with me. It was really weird.
But I'm not sure what it is. You guys. I turned,
you know, forty, and like it was okay, now forty
seven and I'm like, it's fine. He turned thirteen, didn't
have a big deal he turned fourteen, and it was
as if my world ended. I don't know what it is.
(18:05):
I keep looking at old pictures of him. I keep crying.
He walks into the room and I get emotional and
I'm like, I can't believe this because he's so big now,
he's just like a yeng man all of a sudden.
But it it really um oh god, I'm gonna start crying.
It was the first time that this has ever hit me,
(18:25):
that that chapter is over, like it's it's finality. It
really is like the baby making the baby, little babies
them as toddlers, you know, and Bow two weeks so
my first and my last are ten years apart. In
eleven days, so March second to March fourteen, and Bow
turned four and then Liam turned fourteen, and it's just
(18:48):
like I know, I mean, I know you know it
to Jen, and it's just like you look at little babies.
We look at you like you're embarking on this journey again,
and it's so amazing, and it's something that's you know,
it's a closed chapter in our lives and we can't
go back. And my kids keep saying, but Mom, you'll
be a grandma one day. And you can hold all
(19:08):
the babies. And I'm like, yeah, and I'm grateful, but
wait till your way, till your baby turns fourteen, you're
going to be a hot mess. Are you trying to
break her? Right now? You're getting me, I know, because
I think you know I'm a crier. Don't do it.
It's so awful, And you're right like that, But I
(19:30):
missed the babies, and I miss all the fun of
being a mom to little people and chasing them. And
it's really a hard transition, and as you get older
to think, oh, I'm never okay. That's something that I've
really loved and valued and cherished and I'm never going
to get to have that again. But then you have
many things you could say that about rights you have
(19:51):
to do. You have to sort of like reset and
look ahead at being a grandparent and how exciting that's
gonna be. Granny Tori? Can they call like that? You're youngest,
it's still so young. You have grand names? Do you
know your grandma name is yet? I think her should
(20:13):
be Tata. That means boobies. Why are you like it?
For you? I'm gonna be tatas was actually my grandpa's name,
that's what we called our grandpa. Was sorry, the Hispanic
name grandfather probably not the right episode. Sorry, But okay,
(20:34):
why don't you know what, Let's let's regroup. Let's regroup,
got some tissue um, and let's come back. We still
need to cover more of the s A T storyline.
And and then I have questions about how when Brenda
went to the doctor and how the doctor was just
like pooh pooed the mom and was like, you need
to leave, and I need to talk to your underage
daughter alone. So a lot of questions about let's talk
(20:56):
about that when we come come back. Yeah. So in
this show, Kelly's reading out of the article in the
magazine when they're doing the breast exam and she says
(21:17):
one out of nine women will get breast cancer. That
was in so I was curious, what, you know, what
has happened over all these years? Have we gone better?
Have we gotten worse? So in two thousand one, it's
now one out of eight women we'll get breast cancer.
(21:38):
That is so, there's that. So it's worse. That's worse, right,
that's worse. That's so interesting. You would have thought that
thirty years later like it would have we would have progressed,
we would have like learned or but I guess maybe
there's more people in the world of course now, Um,
(21:58):
but we're so much more informed now women. Yeah, that's true.
That's true. And Brenda went in to get checked out
and she's with her mom. I thought it was I
thought it was so weird that the doctor told the
mom to get out of the room and she would
speak to Brenda. I'm like, does that happen? I don't
(22:19):
have kids that are teenagers, but does that happen? It's
if there's a weird fine line when you're your kid
becomes uh uh, you know, an independent person and they
can function on their own and they should speak for themselves.
And have you had to leave the room? Yes? I
have had to leave the room? You wow, wow? Um,
(22:40):
Because you know, of course it's like are you I asked,
are you okay with me leaving room and whatever the
circumstances were, um, And they always said yes. And and
of course I knew who they were going to be
sitting with and talking with and um. And I also
after they finished the meeting, I would kind of get
(23:02):
a general fill in from the doctor or the person
that they had met with. So it wasn't like I
was completely out of the loop, but they just want
to establish that kind of um with Yeah. And and
because you need that moving forward in your life, you
have to be able to have full disclosure with whoever
it is that you're speaking to a therapist or a
(23:23):
doctor of any kind, you know. And so I think
I think that's an important step in um, just becoming
an adult and becoming your own voice. And I think
I thought it was a good thing. But it was
definitely you could tell Cindy wasn't comfortable with it. Yeah,
I wouldn't be either, but I guess I have to be. Yeah,
the first time it happens, you'll see it sort of
(23:45):
plays out in front of your eyes, and you'll make
the right decisions. You'll you'll do the right thing, but
it will feel a little weird mm hmm. And the
doctor I thought was so great, she reminded me of
my kind of colleges that I had. This is so weird, right,
she remembers to me of doctor Goldman Um who was
(24:07):
my first guy ecologist. And I had moved to l A.
I didn't have any doctors or anything and I must
have been sixteen or seventeen, and at some point I
needed a guy know, and I didn't know who to ask,
so I asked my manager and Brandy James. He's a man.
Why I asked him for a reference from my guy, No,
(24:28):
I don't know, but he gave me one. I guess
he probably calls himone and asked them he is the
keeper of all knowledge that he really is the go to.
So he's had good on that because Dr Goldy was
my my gun incolegist until she retired last no. Two
years ago now before the pandemic. Yes, and she delivered
(24:51):
my first baby and then she was supposed to deliver
my other kids, but she retired from baby delivering. So yeah,
but yeah, anyway, I love the guy in colleges. I
love the guy, loved her. I loved her in the episode.
And did you notice Jen at the hospital when Brenda
(25:13):
goes in and she's getting Um, she's getting the biopsy
they say in the background, um, paging Dr Rosen. I
like our executive producer was Chuck Rosen? Rosen, Dr Rosen,
please come to admitting that is a fun fact that
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Another crazy takeaway is that everyone is you guys are
all taking the s a t s because you're juniors,
and it's common to take the SA t s when
you're a in the springtime, when you're a junior. But
then no, well the show started out as juniors, but
then when the second season picked up over the summer,
(25:55):
got really popular, so then producers and and create has
decided to keep all of you as juniors one more year.
It didn't really bring light to it, So I'm curious
to see, like if we'll see the s a t
s happen again? Or are you sure we weren't sophomores
when we started and David was a freshman. I fact
(26:17):
checked it because I was so thrown off what it
would have been that we were soph and David and
Scott were a freshman? Yeah, or was it just not
mentioned that the first season or it was it just
really wasn't mentioned per se. But you know, sophomores don't
take the s a t s. In fact, if you
(26:39):
read on like some articles, that says basically you were
all juniors. But they basically wanted to milk the high
school years as much as possible, so they just repeated
the junior for season three. So season three. Okay, so
we were juniors again and then David was suddenly a
junior with us. He moves up somehow. That's like soap
(27:03):
operas when suddenly, like I mean soap opera's fact, you
can like tune in thirty years later and be like, oh,
the same characters are here. It's just things are a
little different. You can go right back into it. But
I love when they have babies, like one one time
in the soap opera and then the next thing you know,
they're sixteen years old and have their own storyline and
it's like there were a year in between. Mm hmm. Sorry,
(27:27):
I tell girls, okay, are back to talking about s
A T. S Oh. Yeah, we're getting some facts that
you can practice for the practice s A T exams
as a sophomore, but official tests or junior year. So
why did Dylan, I was confused on this, say that
he's going to be surfing when he talked to Brenda
and he said, and I'll take mind senior year when
you guys are all taking them now, and I'll be surfing.
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Why would he do that because he was just cool guy?
How could you take it senior year and like be okay,
you can still tell ye beginning of your senior year
he must have been a smarty pants then I think
he must have been. Yes, here's the thing that drives
(28:10):
me nuts about the S A T. S is I
and and test like this. I know I was in
this group like test panicked me. I would gets so overwhelmed.
But it doesn't mean and I feel like kids go
by scores and they're like, I'm not smart. I'm not smart.
Some people are just not good in fact at test taking.
So true and everything. I mean, it's better now, like
(28:31):
you said, Jen, that you don't have to but before,
oh my god, everything relied on that score, filling on
in those little bubbles. It was madness, really scary, stressed
me out when you think about it like that. Yeah,
my I always really tried to keep my girls calm
around any kind of test preparation, around any kind of homework,
(28:54):
any kind of school work. Honestly, I've always like, just relax,
it's not the end of the world. Old life is
about so much more than what you're learning or what
you're testing on right now, And just really try to
get them to calm down just so they could do
their best because yeah, some of their friends were I've
seen just freak out when they're have to have a
(29:16):
test and they just get so much anxiety and then
they flub it. M h, Yep, it's only a test.
It's only a test, people. I used to literally test
like obviously, not things like this because they were the
bubbles you have to fill in. But when there was
like a written test, I used to go in, you guys,
and I would be covered head to toe in like
(29:37):
facts of what I had studied arm written on my latest. Second,
that's cheating, well only if you get caught. So, oh
my god, you're oh my god. It was. But here's
the thing. I couldn't have known the test. I was
just writing like things I had studied and memorized. I
(29:58):
didn't do it all the time, you know, I'm dramatic.
So she did it one story. She wrote something on
her hand one time. I've never cheated on a test, Jenny.
I mean, I don't know. I don't remember cheating on
a test. Now. I remember taking a test once with
a hangover. I hope my kids don't listen to this one,
(30:20):
but yeah, I remember going to school and I had
gotten had done some drinking the night before and the
next day I still felt drunk and I took a test.
I did really well on it. Though. Let's talk about
Brenda's dream. Oh that dream. First of all, she looked
beautiful and it's so beautiful. The dream looked like a
(30:40):
like a like a movie like I don't know, like
a who's that guy that did Beetle juice Tom tim Burton? Know,
it just reminded me of timber maybe the lady and
the smoke and the way she was dressed. It was
really cool. It was beautiful. Um, I wonder I mean,
I personally love that they chose to put her in
(31:02):
white not black in her dream, which was expected, right,
Such a beautiful casket. It us like a beautiful casket.
The casket thing is weird though, very fluffy. Yeah, I
looked very comfortable. I wouldn't mind taking a little nap
in there, But I don't know about being in that
for the forever. And have you ever had to do
(31:24):
a TV movie where you're laying in a casket? How
you m? It's freaky creepy. It is creepy, like no thanks,
And I liked the little bit of foreshadowing when she's
going around to everyone and they're filling in the you know,
a B or C. What would you choose? And uh,
(31:46):
Kelly had to choose. Uh sorry, I'm not going to
get it dead on, but uh, basically take Brunda's boyfriend
and she goes Kelly because that's the one you obviously chose,
and not that you took him. You can't take a
boyfriend our husband, like or a girlfriend or a wife
or a partner. Uh. They do with their own thing.
(32:08):
But later on you and I liked the little job
that you did with that. That's what they do when
they march off and leave the other one. I don't know, um,
but you know that was foreshadowing and I'm sure they
didn't even did they know the storyline that they were
going to put you know, Kelly and Jyllan together when
Brenda wanted. I'm sure that there was a lot of story.
I know people don't like us to spoil, but like,
(32:33):
I feel like they definitely knew that at some point
all the characters were going to be intertwined with each other.
There's only so many characters too. Yeah, I mean, heck,
nobody saw Andrea and Steve kids. That's true. That's true.
But I did think that the dream was beautiful and
(32:53):
so well done and I enjoyed watching that. And I
also really like the scene with the twins that when
they were sitting on the b together and they were
talking and Brenda was crying about her aunt that had died,
and oh, it just was so sweet. I like that scene. Yeah,
it was an emotional episode. It really creep That creeped
(33:13):
me out, though, like, what are the chances that they
would give the aunt that had breast cancer? She had
breast cancer right? Or was a different cancer? Is breast cancer? Right? Um?
That at thirty five? You know, she Sheila was her name,
and then I'm sorry, I just can't think. I was
like Sheila Shannon, like, I don't know. It was just
like weird coincidences that no one could predicted. But what
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she was saying to really got me. It was she
was saying that her aunt just became so so lonely
m h. And she's sort of like distanced herself from
the people in her life that loved her because she
had to, she wanted to. That's but it really got
(33:56):
me just thinking about that, you know, and in the
connection and made me want to reach out, but I do.
I do want to say though, regarding that we talked
about before, was now it's one in eight women, and
I and how that sort of seems like we're going backwards.
But I do think that the because of early detection
(34:20):
and all the improved treatments, the deaths from breast cancer
have dropped significantly, actually seventeen, so great strides are being
made and we definitely acknowledge that it's so important. And
(34:41):
but it's all about the early detection with anything. You
guys like not to be too serious, but you guys
have to be your own health advocate. You have to
be the CEO of you in every respect, and you
need to take stock in your health and pay attention
because you're the only one that's going to there's no
doctor out there that's going to, you know, keep track
(35:04):
of you and make sure you go all your appointments
and make sure you're completely healthy over the years. There's
no spouse, no partner that's going to do it for you.
You have to do it for yourself, and it's best
to do it now, Like start today, do something that
you're like, I know you know this is in my
genetic makeup heart disease or breast cancer, any kind of cancer,
(35:28):
Like if you know you have genetic pre existing risk factors,
start there and go look into um getting you know,
start with an annual checkup of that specific thing um
and target your attention so that you guys are taking
care of care of yourselves because I want you to.
(35:50):
It's all sorry, stop preaching, be proactive. No, it's everything
you're saying is so right on and so important. And
I think a lot of times we forget, you know,
even as as we forget and you fall back and
you're like, oh what am I doing? Of course, but
here you know, people be like sixteen, isn't that too young?
But like it's not to look at Brenda. She had
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you know, she did have a tumor and it worked out,
but you just never know. So m She had a
lot of support though, from her parents, all of her friends,
even though Kelly and Donna couldn't really figure out the
right words trying to make her feel better. That hug
at the hand though, it was so sweet and the
(36:33):
gift been like when they showed him the gift thing,
guss gift basket ever made it? You have the floral
arrangement from like the Four Seasons or something, where did
you get that it's so big and obnoxious? We are
like we were overcompensating, I think for our inability in
the previous I felt real bad about it, but I
(36:55):
felt that scene at the school where they're finding out
about it was really genuine because you wouldn't kids don't.
I wouldn't have known at that age what to say
or how to be there for someone. So I felt
like it was a pretty accurate scene was really authentic.
And I loved Brandon in this episode. Yeah, he was
(37:16):
so thoughtful and it was about somebody else. I felt
like it's that last scene with her mm hmm, like
sitting on the bed, just like I would have missed
you so much, Like I don't know. I was just like, ah,
did you missed your brother? Um? Well, he's that sounded
(37:37):
that sounds important. It's not because he's not dead, but
it made you like it reminds you of that like
sibling connection. And it didn't make you because you have
a brother that's close to your age. So yes, my
brother is five years younger and I do miss him.
He lives importantly. I missed him all the time. Um,
but just I think the yeah, you're right. The note
(38:00):
there is don't wait till it's something that could be
life or death to tell someone I love you. That
was the thing with Brandon, like you know, he was
we don't see them often enough kind of we see
the sibling rivalry and they kind of support each other.
But this was just like whoa. It was presented to
him that this could be major. She could die, someone
in their family did die from this, and he was like,
(38:23):
he poured his heart out and it was so cute. Yeah,
I love a gooey Brandon moment. Me too, and was Dylan.
So Dylan told Brenda I love you right outside her
front door. Was big, that's the first time. That's the
first time I believe. So yeah, and then she that's
(38:47):
why she calls him, and all she says is I
love you, and then she hangs up with answering machine.
Note you said answering machine. I was going to say voicemail,
but nope, it was an answering machine. Answering machines back
and have a message at the beep. And remember when
people would try to be funny. You probably did that
to any message after the beep, and then you go
(39:10):
beep before it would actually be maybe I don't know
you do the bake hellos hello, and then they think
you answered hello Hello, Okay, hey, that was fun. Thanks
us for acting that up for me. Have you changed
your voice more recently? I have not lever listened to
(39:32):
my voice, Smail? How would I know? What is it?
Her voice? Smail makes like she'll let it go to
the answer room. She didn't want to hear what it says.
I swear I have no idea, So I can't tell
you how many times I have called and it's and
I'm like hey. So it's like I gotta tell her
something about work, and I'm like hey, and I start
talking and then I hear her like she's messing with people,
and say I want to hear it, say hello like
(39:53):
like you're answering, and so then you start talking and
then you realize I don't know what you're talking about.
All right, well don't pick up Okay, okay, yeah, okay, okay,
what's up? I bet you changed it? Oh we almost
answered it. Okay, she's calling me and no, that's different.
(40:18):
At the No that did that didn't sound like hey,
it's me like almost like your answers their phone. Hey
it's me. No, I'm telling you. You guys before it
was like hey, like you you Literally every time I'd
be like, oh, I got fooled again because I'd be like, oh, hey,
how are you and then she'd be like it would
be beat beat, and then she'd be like, leave a
(40:40):
message and I can't. I can't remember the last time
you actually left me a voice message on any device
like that. This doesn't happen anymore. Doesn't know you don't okay.
So also, you and I both are known hate talking
on the phone. Hate. I do not like to talk
(41:00):
on the phone ever, like phone phobia. We have phone phobia.
It's not weird. We've had that forever, Like we have
that in common to like, it's just even though I'm
like family members, I don't want it takes a lot
for me to be like, let's get on a phone
call and chat it up to me too. Um, So
I am going to announce them that my best friend
(41:21):
I don't know what I did last night. Yes, so
she's been uh sliding into my d M s. You're
so um, you're so like young and relevant like so
that's the new thing, Like no one no one like
texts people anymore. That's them. I'm lazy, is what it is.
I'm too bringing lazy to switch to the messages because
(41:42):
I happened to be on my Instagram and I see
a message, so I just respond there because you're already there.
That's true. And so the thing is you can tell
when someone's active. So you're like, hey, if you like
reply and they don't reply back, well, I guess that's
not true either, because if you have it on your background,
it's if you leave your app on, you're always yeah, okay,
so my apps always on? I don't know. Yes. So
(42:04):
she was like texting me, but d m ng me
and I didn't check it. And then when I checked
it last night, I was like, oh my god, and like,
are you bringing this up? I'm only bringing it up
because I feel like dm NG is very relevant right now.
And if I hear one more person say hey, oh yeah,
let's get in touch, I'll just, you know, slip into
my d M. And I'm like, sounds so dirty, slip
(42:27):
into my d M. I'd rather text me. It's more.
I don't know if there's something more personable about it, right,
But that's how like social Yeah, slip, but why do
they say slip? It sounds really nasty to my d M.
And then someone yesterday told me they were like, hey,
just drop into my DM. I'm like, oh in my
(42:48):
outstated now I had just gotten like cool with like
slip into my d M, and now I'm like, oh,
I think it's dropped now to your d M. Is
when you know you have all the d m s
and you don't notice it and then and then you
see it later. I think I drop into your d
M must be like bam, I just sent it like
we dropped right? Interesting? Interesting, Okay, yeah, these are very
(43:10):
important conversations everybody, Ye JOHNA. Martin. So it's like there
you go. Well we need to talk about fashion and
our our favorite lines and then also get to a
few emails. Um, so let's take a break and we'll
come back. Hey. This is Becca Tilly and Tanya Rada
(43:37):
Rad that's me. Yeah, and we have a podcast called
scrubbing In. Yeah, we do. We are two best friends
and we love Grey's Anatomy, hence the name scrubbing In exactly.
And this week we have one of Grey's Anatomy's very
own Anthony Hill, who plays Winston on the podcast to
chat about what's been going on. If you follow as aonomy,
(44:00):
you know that. I mean, there's just a lot to
talk about. There are sudden deaths, people are coming back
this season. There's a whole lot going on. It is
a huge season for Grey's Anatomy. So I highly suggest
you tune in. And you're not just gonna get Gray's Anatomy.
I mean, we have girl talk. It's just girl talk.
It's like you're talking with your best friends on the couch. Yeah,
except not with your best friends. You're talking with us,
(44:21):
your virtual best friends, virtual bfs. That's right. So listen
to Scrubbing In on the I Heart Radio app on
Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So in
this episode, the rem Brands song played during Steve and
Andreas very surprising. Kiss Um, why don't we talk to
(44:42):
the rem Brands? Now we have Phil solom on the
line from the rem Brands, your half of the rem Brands.
This is what I find interesting about you had have
had over four decades of friendship and beautiful artistic collaboration
with one person, with Danny Wild, And I find that
(45:04):
sort of symbolic because Tory and I kind of have
that seem very long history together, still working together, still
loving it, and I was just thinking, like, what do
you think is the secret to that kind of a
successful relationship with a partner. Um Probably that we just
don't know what else to do and we just keep
on doing whatever comes up. You know, if there's a secret,
(45:28):
somebody please tell me. Well, I think it's pretty obvious
that you guys have a great love for each other
and that you have, um built a level of trust
that you don't maybe have with other people. So you
guys are comfortable well to each other. Yeah, we have
a I don't know if it's like an intrinsic thing.
(45:49):
From the minute we met, we kind of knew that
there would be some you know, we were in separate
bands out in Hollywood at the time and just kind
of ended up like, wow, okay, we created a new
band and got in it, and then eventually this remembrance
thing happened. So yeah, on again, off again, right. I
(46:12):
love that. I love that about you guys. Relationship and
remembrance for me, just there's just so melodic and there's
so many beautiful harmonies, and that's just think Yeah, that's
what you guys your I think, wasn't your breakout kind
of song for the Remembrance? Wasn't it just the way
it is? Baby, that's just the way that's just exactly.
(46:49):
As a matter of fact, that's the first song that
we recorded as the Rembrands, and we weren't in called
The Remembrance the time. We just got together to write
some tunes and maybe get a publishing deal, and that
was the first song we wrote, and h it was
the first thing record and it just kind of all
fell into place from that. How did we get so
(47:10):
lucky to have no show? I mean, we had your
music on the show, but do you remember, I mean,
you have so much to remember. How did we get
so lucky to be on the show? Thank you? But
we felt lucky to have you grateful? Yeah, that was
big for us. That was major. Oh really it was
(47:31):
more major thing to show well we both benefited in
a good way. Then yeah, okay, can we get to
the Friends theme song? Now? I'm time to know what
would you like to know? That was your second song? Right,
(48:04):
hit song? Well, we had a couple other songs that
weren't quite that didn't you know, really become smashes or anything.
But then pretty early on Yeah, we stumbled into the
Friends camp and when that came out, we were just
we really thought it was just going to be like
(48:25):
we will be the mystery sound of this show and
that that will be that. But then our excuse me,
a record company decided because there were so many requests
everywhere on radio stations for it and it was only
a forty two second long song. Oh my god, you
guys are going to write more to this and finish it.
(48:49):
We're gonna put it on your record. And that's how
it happened. Wait, I have a question. Sorry, I probably
everyone knows the answer to this, but what came first?
The chicken or egg? Like? You had the song? It
was a hit, and then friends, how does that work?
They license it to be the theme song or you
wrote it for them. We wrote it with the music
director of the show, and he had the idea of
(49:13):
mainly how it would scan out. Has to be this long,
it has to be here's some parts. He had some
he jammed out some piano stuff, and then we uh,
you know, experimented and they have Allie Willis sending lyrics
from her place via facts I Love her, I have
facts machine. Well, I have a crazy question. Do you
(49:37):
get paid every time that song comes on? Jenny Garth,
I'm sorry, you get a little slice. You know. The
show is just I think they're saving it. They're going
to surprise this one name a big present, a big
Christmas bonus. My twelve year old and my nine year
(49:59):
old or obsessed with friends now and they've discovered it
and they think it's like their show. They have no
idea that I was like, oh my god in the nineties,
like this was our show. They think it's something new
for them, and they're like friends, and they have all
like the merchandise that's out now and Target like friends,
and they they walk around singing the song and it
blows my mind because I'm like, oh my god, that
(50:20):
was me in the nineties and now my kids are
singing it, so yeah, you span generations. Wait, so Courtney
Cox playing, she learned to play the song on the piano.
She actually played. Yeah, I saw that couple three four
weeks ago she uh put a video out on Instagram
and I was, yeah, it was her playing. I didn't
(50:43):
know she could play piano, but you know, we did
a video together with those guys and Courtney played drunes
and video. That's right. So I've always wanted to ask
a famous musician this, but um, I don't know any
You're You're the only famous musician I know. So what
what happens when you're in a rust or in a
bar and you hear them play one of your songs? Like?
(51:04):
What happens? Does everyone look at you? And are you like? Like?
What do you do? My My internal calculator starts adding
up how we get? I love you? Man? So wait,
so what are you? What's coming up next for you?
What do you got on the back burner or the
front burner? I don't know. Well, it's funny because we
(51:28):
just released a new album last year, well actually the
end of and Uh, and then we were fixing to
get out on the road and promote it, and we
had a whole tour booked and then this COVID thing
kicked in and everything got canceled. So maybe we'll pick
(51:49):
up where we left off when when it's safe, if
you ever go back out, we could be your groupies
when when it's safe to go back out. I'm kind
of us about going back out. Spent a whole year
in my house. Well, I think I'm hope that you
guys are comfortable and everyone is able to come and
(52:10):
see your your concerts coming up. We just want to
say thank you so much. Thank you, it was great
talking to you. Were such fans. Yeah, everybody has linked
(52:31):
love language, you know, how you show your love to
someone or how it is that you show up in
a relationship. For me and my husband, communication is not
our strong suit. We don't communicate easily efficiently together or
(52:52):
to anyone. But we're just not good communicators. So my
husband made me. Um, when I had to go to Canada,
he made me or how would I have to go anywhere?
He makes me want a playlist and when you listen
to the music, you get the message of whatever he's
really truly feeling, like, because all of the songs say
(53:13):
something amazing and make you feel so loved and like
just talk about he's the luckiest man in the world,
and you know, like he communicates through his music. I
think that's Oh my god, I'm rushing on Dave right now.
Oh my god. He'll make you one too. He loves
to do it. I swear maybe it'll be it'll have
a different theme obviously, but he'll make Oh my god,
(53:39):
So I'm gonna slip into Dave's d M s. No,
I'm sorry, I'm in. I'm I follow him, so he
follows me, so drop it. I'll drop a d M
to him and say, Dave, like for my birthday, when
you make me a playlist? He will be so happy
to do that. I was looking on Instagram yesterday and
Dave was on and um he by the way, he's
(54:00):
the most supportive like friend ever. Like all my stories,
Dave's always there. It makes me feel really good. No,
I'm always like, oh good. Is it that? Or is
he just spending a way too much time on his
I think he's efficient. I don't know. I feel special
too much. But he was eating what looked like a
(54:21):
can of peanut butter. Oh my god, did he even?
I almost like he wasending first made me think I
was like, oh he's missing her. Look at this looking
poor guy. It's come to that, and you know what
it's come to that made bad deep in the pantry.
You guys, it's not just a jar of peanut butter
your can. It's a giant can from like restaurant depot.
(54:46):
Because I bake the pies for his restaurants sometimes. Oh,
and I have a lot of supplies. That is one
of my pie baking supplies. And he would ate it
like that's for the pies. But like like you're talking
about it about communication in your own love language, like
that picture set a thousand words. I was like, Oh,
(55:09):
he's ready for her to come home. The canopy in
butt industrial size, it was night. Oh that's good. Should
we talk fashion? We didn't. Oh we didn't. Oh, man didn't.
(55:30):
I didn't. There was no like like standout fashion moments
for me in this episode. I mean, all the boys
kind of looked the same as each other. Pleaded pants,
blousy man, blousy shirts. Dylan it's the first time I've
seen Dylan and as Steve Blouse. My writer, am I right?
(55:50):
I was like, go to the blouse barn are right,
let's see. Yeah, And it was like I'm looking at
a picture it right now, black collar, black sleeves, and
it was like puke green and like lavender straight, Like
what's happening. It's crazy. Then they had a really cool
(56:11):
pink suit at the hospital. Cindy looked great. Yeah, she
had another the other time when she went to the
doctor's office, with Brenda. She showed up at the school.
She looked like a Beverly Hills mom all of a sudden.
See funny enough, I didn't love her outfits in this episode.
I felt like they were trying her when her hairs
like loose and she had her mom jeans and a
(56:33):
blouse tucked in and just kind of looks so like
they definitely felt like the costumer was trying to her
aunt to change her Yeah, fitting into Beverly Hills. Her
hair looked different. It was like all around different. I mean,
I'm going to be honest. She looked older like she
usually looks so care free and fun and young and
(56:56):
like cool mom and I love her looks. And here
I was like, oh, this is like an example when
people are like, oh my god, do I look like you?
Kind of I look like I'm wearing my mom's clothes,
like she looked like she was wearing mom mom clothes.
There wasn't a lot of other great fashion modes. Did
you guys have a favorite line from the episode? Perto
lay it on me? Um? So my line I loved
(57:18):
and I'm sure you guys loved this one too. Was
Brenda's hope for the best expect the worst. I didn't
like that line. You don't like it, No, philosophically I
disagree with it hope for the best because it's like
kind of like, Okay, here's the worst case scenario. If
I expect the worst, then I can only be like
(57:39):
happy with anything better. I guess you're right, it's a
little glass half empty. But yeah, I just I don't know.
I don't think you should expect the worst in any situation.
I think you should always expect the best. Fine, you're right,
and it's like manifestation. Yeah, like, don't even think about
(58:00):
the worst, think about the best cards anyway? Okay, sorry,
going um mine. We talked about kind of already and
it wasn't my favorite per se, but it stood out
to me, and it was Kelly and Donna telling Brenda,
and I think Kelly is the one that said it
that she really doesn't hope that that that ever happens
(58:22):
to her breasts, and then it was just it just
came out so wrong and we both made it about us.
I hope it doesn't exactly and then like me to um,
what else? Oh, did I have a favorite line? Did
you let me think? I want to think Oh, yeah,
(58:47):
I would have to be. I guess my hormones are
raging at the end, when Brenda says that when she
doesn't have the thing, I thought, I thought it was
really cute, and I thought that it well, that was cute.
I think they even like showed a glimpse of Dylan
when she says that, tell me about it, Yeah, right,
tell me about it? All right. We have some questions
(59:11):
from listeners. Ashley is saying, I have a question for
Jenny and torr. Out of all the different seasons of
NOO to know, have you ever been jealous or envious
of someone else's character or storyline at the time? Was
there ever a story arc you wish your character would
have gotten to experience. Well, Ashley, as you asked that question,
(59:35):
I was thinking, what would it be? What would it be? Um?
The only thing that came to my mind instantly, which
I'm sure there were other instances definitely where I was like, oh,
that would have been so cool to have that storyline, um,
was when we were all at the This is a
spoiler alert, but I have to um, we were all
(59:56):
at Dylan, and I think her mind name was Tony's
wedding on a Cliff overlooking the Pacific Ocean in Malibu.
I just remember, wish it was you, I did well.
I wish that was me getting married to Dylan. Oh really,
I can't remember that vividly because we were just the
guests for more of the sake of Kelly marrying Dylan,
(01:00:19):
or just for the fact that, like you wanted to
act out a wedding, like being a wedding dress. Both.
I wanted to marry Dylan, Okay, I wanted Kelly to
be marrying Dylan and having that special, beautiful wedding because
it was beautiful. I don't know. I'm biting my tongue,
my lips, everything, I'm biting everything because it's so multi layered. Whatever.
(01:00:43):
What was, what's yours? What's yours? This question? Damn it.
She's like, don't go there, you need to answer. I
think for me, it was probably the first couple of
seasons just um, not jealous so much, but watching all
the girls have storylines and dialogue and and kind of
(01:01:04):
you know, my my character grew slowly, so it was
just a lot of one liners, which, honestly, sometimes one
liners are harder, especially if they're not going if you
have a zinger of a funny one liner, that's easier.
But if you're sitting in a scene and you have
one line and there's a whole scene you're depending on,
Like you're looking and you're happy, you're listening, and you're listening,
(01:01:26):
and your eyes and you know, it's just it's difficult.
I just looked really crazy. I don't that seems going
to be weird, but that there were times where I
was like, Oh, I can't I can't wait. I hope
one day I have like a big storyline, I can
have a scene where it's two of us and I'm
just we're talking back and forth. And it happened. Obviously,
(01:01:47):
your dreams came true. They hated it. I didn't expect
the worst. That's exactly my point. People, You're right, Okay,
Sean is asking a very serious and long question. Um,
so here we go. How does this make you, guys feel?
(01:02:08):
Now watching the show and seeing Brenda with a scare
and knowing Shannon is currently battling her second round of
stage four. Also, after Shannon left the show, there was
an estrangement as far as I know from the media,
between Jenny and Shannon. But when Shannon had cancered the
first time. Jenny posted this wonderful tribute and created the
best hashtag hashtag fight like Brenda. It was so moving
(01:02:33):
and wonderful to see the sisterhood and bond of the
friendship reignited after all those years. How did that all
come about? Well, Sean, that is a long question. Um. First,
I'll dressed the beginning. I think that. Yeah, we already
(01:02:57):
kind of talked about that in the beginning of the episode.
How was out of It was hard for us to
watch this, yeah, and who knew? And and now watching
it back, it's it's eerie and it's not it's not good.
It's not a good feeling. Now it was you know,
we I remember like when she had fought in and
(01:03:20):
overcame and was in remission. We we looked back and
we're like, oh, that was a coincidence. But she came
back from it, and obviously you're correct, she's you know,
battling it again. But um, we believe in her and
she's such a strong, strong woman. UM, and she does
so much. She's such an inspiration for women everywhere, UM
(01:03:42):
going through this. So it's still hard to watch them.
M hmm. I'll be glad to get to the next episode.
And I mean to address the other part of your
question because I don't want to be rude. Um. Yeah,
there was, uh you know, there was the word out
there that Shannon and I didn't get along or we
(01:04:03):
were estranged as you called it. Um. I don't think
that's the case though. I mean, Shannon and I are
two aries women. I don't need to say any more
than that. Um. We lock horns sometimes as rams, do,
(01:04:23):
you know. And I actually like that about her and
she likes that about me. So UM, we've never had
a problem with our differences. I don't think. Uh, there's
been times when there's been feelings hurt and things said,
but that you your sisters. At the end of the day,
(01:04:45):
there's a bond that we all have with one another,
all the cast members have with one another that it
it is like it's like super glue. You can never
break that bond. And so we're all going to be
there to support each other at the end of the day,
no matter what any of us are going through. Whenever
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one of us truly needs the other one, I know
that they will be there for me, and just like
we are for Shannon. But I didn't know that you
did that hashtag fight like a Brenda. I love that
because it's so true. I mean yeah, I mean that's
a good one. I made up a good hashtag that day.
(01:05:30):
I might have a career in hashtags. You guys, Hey,
if this podcast thing doesn't work out, which it will
because we have five stars, but little it could be
your side hustle creating hashtags for people. I'm want to
work on it. Good stuff. Well, I think that does
it for today's podcast, Ladies Homework Assignment is Episode nineteen.
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April is the cruelest month. Be there we We will
see you all next week. Bye, guys, I lippened to
my d N. I'm just kidding that, like the funny
one liner at the end.
It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys.
We are back with another episode of O two one
OMG with my favorite people, Jenny Garth and Sissony. Hi
you guys, ladies. So happy to say is pretty ladies happy,
(00:27):
whatever day of the week it is tal y'all, Hm,
who knows when you're listening to this? I don't know,
nobody knows, but we're happy that you're with us, that's
for sure. Gosh so much you guys. The outpouring of
love for our podcast has been amazing, and I'm just
gonna say it, thanks for all of our stars. You
(00:49):
like us, You really like us. Oh, the stars are
so shiny. It's really nice. We're trying, we're trying really
hard to do a good podcast through guys, and you know,
we show up every week, we do our homework and
sisanse always so happy to see us, and we're happy
to see you guys. So that's a baby on board.
(01:11):
She has fifty million jobs and look at her. She
has youth on her side. And you know what I
realized today is that my weeks of pregnancy are matching
up with the week that we're on that episode. So
stop it. So today we're talking about episode eighteen, and
I am eighteen weeks pregnant. Crazy stuff happens all the time.
(01:37):
That's just weird like that, like little little signs that
you're exactly where you're supposed to be. Thank you, Thank
your husband for shooting it that day. Oh my god. Okay,
eighteen weeks ago. Well this was episode, like you said, eighteen,
(01:58):
it's only a test a date March nine. The synopsis
is Brenda is filled with horror when she discovers a
lump in her breast, which calls for a biopsy. Meanwhile,
the upcoming S A T S put extra pressure on everyone,
especially Andrea and Steam. Things heat up during a study
(02:19):
night together when an intimate moment happens between the two.
Don't done. Yeah, this episode started out with you know,
S A T frenzy, it's a test, the S A
T S. Everybody was stressing out about it, and quickly
(02:40):
kind of shifted gears into a different kind of test,
which was Brenda's um for rest examination test and she
had to go get a test at the hospital. So
I thought it was interesting the way they will have
these two storylines together. It was very clever that I'm
not going to allow you. Guys, this is the episode
(03:01):
I was kind of dreading coming up, um for obvious reasons.
With Shannon. It's you know, I know everyone thought about
it when when she had cancer. This was really hard
for me to watch, Like I had to actually use it.
Cry was a couple of times because it was just
(03:23):
too too close, man, too weirdly sinked in a not
good way. You know what is that called? That's like foreshadowing.
It was foreshadowing synchronicity. But yeah, but with outcome, obviously,
Chand's a warrior, she's a fighter, and she did you know,
(03:45):
she's resilient, she she bounces back. She's a fighter. And
I think Brenda is a fighter too, So those things
lined up in a positive way. But um, we've never
talked to Shannon about it, but I can't help but
know that must have thought about like, oh my gosh,
only all these years ago, thirty years ago, gosh, who
would have thought that you know, this would come true
(04:07):
thirty years later. Yeah. Yeah, we've never really said can
you believe that episode where Brenda thought she had a
lump and now you know that, Yeah, we've never really
addressed that. We should and of all the characters, you
know that. I mean obviously, I mean it lines up
that they would have done it with Brenda, you know,
one of the twins. But just the way it worked out, Um,
(04:30):
it's just kind of it's shocking. Yeah, I mean, even
without this sort of like weird synchronicity, the episode was
very dramatic and very like serious undertones. Yeah, thank goodness,
we had a little bit of comedic relief with um
Steve and Andrea. Thank you Ian Srin for always flying
(04:54):
us with that A little bed flipped that. Yeah. Yeah,
he was very very excited to plant his lips on Andrea.
You know what I love the most I got to
say is I mean, I'm gonna be honest. When we
filmed this episode, I thought to myself, Oh my gosh,
(05:16):
I mean I think I was like seventeen, like we
were teenagers, you and I. And I was like, I've
never checked my breaths, Like I would never even think
of it, you know, I didn't. I didn't know like
this can happen to a sixteen year old. And I
remember because we filmed that, like we had to do
it on the bed and they taught us. Um, I
definitely like that. After that, I always checked from that
(05:39):
day forward, and I think it's important, like teenagers watching
this today that are finding nine out two one oh now,
um too, it's relevant, like it's never too early to
start and it's such a great message and um, I
just think it's so important as women agree. Yeah, I
(05:59):
mean we were young, and I'm sure doing that on
the bed Kelly and Donna and Brenda was really awkward,
like you know, the crew guys all standing around, and
I'm sure that was uncomfortable but very very embarrassing. But also,
(06:22):
like you're saying, like super informative, very very helpful to
so many young women out there. And I mean I
mean hopefully, and I'm sure it did, but hopefully the
show just really helped a lot of people with this
that the way they wrote it in was really creative
to They had Kelly reading it out of a magazine,
which is what you did when you were in high
(06:44):
school and your friends were over at your house. You
guys have through magazines and take the quizzes. And it
was because they then had the shot of the visual,
you know, like people could actually see what we were
talking about. Just a really home like this is how
you do it, you know. But to Jen's point, like,
(07:05):
keep in mind, you guys, we were three teenage girls,
all three of us were in our team still, and
imagine doing this in front of, predominantly at the time,
a male crew like you were saying, like, do you
remember what we felt like? Not like the actual physical
part felt like, but like mentally, you know. I was
just I was watching it and I was thinking, oh
my god, Kelly is unbuttoning her What is happening. She's
(07:28):
unbuttoning her shirt. I see there's all of her. And
I was getting really nervous. And then I thought, Okay,
grow up, she's she's just gonna do a breast exam.
And I felt like the characters really, even though we
were probably super uncomfortable, uh, we all did a really
good job of like not laughing. Like you know, there
(07:50):
was a little levity in it with your line tour
about aren't you glad you were a deoda in or something,
But I felt I felt like we delivered the message
as well as we could in that moment. There are
probably some giggles off camera because we were teen teen
(08:10):
girls having to touch our boobs on camera. Um, so
it's uncomfortable. I mean definitely, you know, I think it's
important that people do that behind the scenes and something
you would do with your friends if you're curious, but
in front of, you know, a whole crew, Like how
many crew members do you think would be on set
during something like that, just like right around us, like
the core, the grips, the electricians, the proper people, but
(08:38):
many people at least at least at least So we're
just trying to set the stage and you know, three
teenage girls, this is all new to us. It's our
season one, you know, it wasn't a hit yet, and
we're like, oh my god, what is happening under the
spotlights of those huge, huge lights they had us under
(08:59):
in a really bright room Kelly's bedroom, which was so
that was a lot like it's all the red and
the pink and the artwork of herself. Who's that is that? Kelly? Yeah?
That's that? Or those are pictures of Kelly on Kelly's
walls doing it in front of a crew at forty
(09:21):
seven years old, and like, you know, I can't imagine
seventeen doing it, Like, oh wow, that's more awkward than
a love scene in a bed, really I I don't
think so. I hadn't done a love scene yet at
this point, so this was the closest for me at least. Okay,
(09:41):
I mean, I guess I hadn't done a love scene before.
That's a kiss that wasn't like a kiss in the
garage come on different. It was different. I don't know
neither of us. I don't we hadn't any of us.
Even Brenda hadn't done like love scenes on the show,
but Andrea Steve did. I keep coming back to it
(10:03):
because I'm sorry. It was interesting. My jaw dropped when
we did b h n oh two one out. I
don't know who brought it up, but the writers I think,
brought it up that Andrea and Steve had had this
love scene. And I don't think we remember this, and
we were like that never happened, that they never got
together that, but hello, they did. That's it? Is this
(10:23):
it or does it go further? I'm very curious to
Andrea and Steve hook up again. I don't think one
time special events one and one and done. We like
special events, limited special events, special little special relationship. But
she did look super cute. She did look super cute
(10:45):
there on the bed with her took off her glasses
hot for teacher, look like without your glasses. And he's all,
I mean manly in in his white tight T shirt
is tight acid washed jeans. He's just so confident and like,
oh no, I think I I as the fire of
(11:08):
that age. I'd be like, hi, so burly. I always
thought his room. Didn't he have like money behind him
on the giant dollar bills or something dollar bills. He
loved the money. But he was hot in that scene.
(11:30):
And then when she left he was sexy, so she
she was super sexy. Yeah right, and yes, of course
he like flipped over his bed and like laid down
on the couch. And then when he's laying on the couch,
right before that they cut to the next scene, you
can see him going like like doing the funniest like
(11:51):
like it was so cute and so iron like it
just you know, that's like one of those so many
times with um with I in it was Steve. Their
characters are so blended to me, like because he brought
so much of his humor and his like just love
ability to that character. I really want to meet him.
(12:13):
I really want him to come on the point we
want you to to. I saw this he posted. He
says he wants to do it, and he's active on
social media. He posted this video the other day of
his lunch, and I watched the whole thing and he
was making avocado toast with a poached egg. I watched
that entire thing. His voice is just so soothing, and
(12:37):
he was just so excited for his life. Was like watching,
you know, one of those like late night infomercial. Stop watching.
Like if if he had had that avocado and egg
toast for sale, you know what I actually was like,
is he going to put a link to the egg,
the egg, the hard boiled egg. Yeah, he had a
machine that makes that poaches the egg for him. He
(12:59):
doesn't have to put so, you know, irons a total entrepreneur.
If he was thinking straight, he should have put a
link to that because he would have sold them. Because
I was in I was like this with hard boiled eggs.
I don't know if I'm I would buy hard boiled eggs.
It was no, it was a poached egg, but he
overcooked it. He did. He did so slow and then
(13:19):
what one broke a little bit, and I was like,
you know, good for him. This is real, this is real,
which it never happens on Instagram. He didn't go back.
He kiss feed you know dad life, but I for
sure definitely long dam video. Now I know how I'm
going to spend the rest of my afternoon. Thanks guys.
Going back to a lot of olive oil though he
(13:41):
poured on it. Yeah, I think it went a little
overboard the end, but it's fine. The funny thing is
I was watching, I was like, God, are they our
pennant and and me, I'm gonna eat this? And I
was like nervous because I was like for young kids,
it was very adults. He had some salt and some
it was a lot not by the video stopped talking
(14:04):
about the sucking avocado tost video. I'm done. Sorry, Sorry,
Remember we were talking about all those like the five
stars we had and all, yeah, all the people lost
them just like that to the show. Sorry, I'm hungry.
I want to talk about the opening of the show,
just because there was just win particular one moment that
was like whoa, um, it's the nineties. There there's a
(14:27):
kid sitting outside the school before we But if Ford
ever really starts and he has the biggest, weirdest contraption
on his lap. I don't know what it looks like
a typewriter, but ginormous. And I'm not guessing that was
like the first ever laptop made ever by man. It's
(14:47):
like it was like like a caveman laptop. It was.
It was so huge. It definitely caught my eye. Yeah,
I had to like stop, stop the thing and rewind
and watch it rewind. Don't know, go back? What do
you say these days? Um? And then also another moment
in the show that brought me right back was that
(15:08):
when when Carol is in the kitchen and she has
a giant phone book. Do you guys see that? Like
we missed the giant phone by enormous yellow page and
they don't have that anymore. They don't have phone books anymore.
Where did all the phone books go? Isn't that sad?
I remember as a little kid, as a toddler, you
(15:29):
didn't take around booster seats and stuff, and you would
go into restaurants and they would bring out their phone
book and they would put it on the kid. You
would sit on its table or a booth. Not crazy.
And also there was that joke too, We're not the joke,
It's not a joke something about like I could listen
to him read the phone book. Oh yeah, Like that
(15:52):
means like somebody's just so good. You just want to
You don't care what they're saying, You just want to
listen to them. What would be the two thousand twenty
one version and that nobody talks to was gonna Dictionary?
But even that's like everything is digital. I could listen
to him read read it all day long. Yeah, there
you go. But yeah, Brandon says right out right out
(16:16):
of the gate, you can't study for the s a
t S. He's very advent about that, right, He's like says,
you can't study. You can but off for the s
A t S. Did you take that SAT S? No,
to him, I did horrible. Like I did so bad
that I had to take it again in hopes that
you get like a higher score, and it was like
(16:38):
forty points higher. And I was like, Okay, that's a
lot this acting thing works out. Now, that's a lot
of forty points, my girls. I mean, because that's the thing.
You can take it three times now and you like
pick your best score. But now colleges aren't even using
SAT scores for acceptably Yeah. Thing in the past. That's
going to be a thing of the past, unless you're
(16:59):
going for like, you know, a doctor, like some a doctor,
you know, if you're studying that. I think they don't
even look at test scores anymore. They didn't for my
daughter that applied this year. She did. She she was
given the option. You can either you know, send in
your chest results or you don't have to just send
in a do all the other things that you have
(17:20):
to do to apply and write a really good letter.
So like, yeah, I know, sis notes, we have to
take notes. That's going to happen to us one day
and me sooner than year. Oh my god, No, my
kid just turned guys, and I'm having a real hard
time with her. You know, I felt that on your Instagram.
I really feel like if you took a trip down
(17:43):
memory lane with all those pictures, oh my god, the
cutest pictures ever finding all day you guys. I don't
know what was wrong with me. It was really weird.
But I'm not sure what it is. You guys. I turned,
you know, forty, and like it was okay, now forty
seven and I'm like, it's fine. He turned thirteen, didn't
have a big deal he turned fourteen, and it was
as if my world ended. I don't know what it is.
(18:05):
I keep looking at old pictures of him. I keep crying.
He walks into the room and I get emotional and
I'm like, I can't believe this because he's so big now,
he's just like a yeng man all of a sudden.
But it it really um oh god, I'm gonna start crying.
It was the first time that this has ever hit me,
(18:25):
that that chapter is over, like it's it's finality. It
really is like the baby making the baby, little babies
them as toddlers, you know, and Bow two weeks so
my first and my last are ten years apart. In
eleven days, so March second to March fourteen, and Bow
turned four and then Liam turned fourteen, and it's just
(18:48):
like I know, I mean, I know you know it
to Jen, and it's just like you look at little babies.
We look at you like you're embarking on this journey again,
and it's so amazing, and it's something that's you know,
it's a closed chapter in our lives and we can't
go back. And my kids keep saying, but Mom, you'll
be a grandma one day. And you can hold all
(19:08):
the babies. And I'm like, yeah, and I'm grateful, but
wait till your way, till your baby turns fourteen, you're
going to be a hot mess. Are you trying to
break her? Right now? You're getting me, I know, because
I think you know I'm a crier. Don't do it.
It's so awful, And you're right like that, But I
(19:30):
missed the babies, and I miss all the fun of
being a mom to little people and chasing them. And
it's really a hard transition, and as you get older
to think, oh, I'm never okay. That's something that I've
really loved and valued and cherished and I'm never going
to get to have that again. But then you have
many things you could say that about rights you have
(19:51):
to do. You have to sort of like reset and
look ahead at being a grandparent and how exciting that's
gonna be. Granny Tori? Can they call like that? You're youngest,
it's still so young. You have grand names? Do you
know your grandma name is yet? I think her should
(20:13):
be Tata. That means boobies. Why are you like it?
For you? I'm gonna be tatas was actually my grandpa's name,
that's what we called our grandpa. Was sorry, the Hispanic
name grandfather probably not the right episode. Sorry, But okay,
(20:34):
why don't you know what, Let's let's regroup. Let's regroup,
got some tissue um, and let's come back. We still
need to cover more of the s A T storyline.
And and then I have questions about how when Brenda
went to the doctor and how the doctor was just
like pooh pooed the mom and was like, you need
to leave, and I need to talk to your underage
daughter alone. So a lot of questions about let's talk
(20:56):
about that when we come come back. Yeah. So in
this show, Kelly's reading out of the article in the
magazine when they're doing the breast exam and she says
(21:17):
one out of nine women will get breast cancer. That
was in so I was curious, what, you know, what
has happened over all these years? Have we gone better?
Have we gotten worse? So in two thousand one, it's
now one out of eight women we'll get breast cancer.
(21:38):
That is so, there's that. So it's worse. That's worse, right,
that's worse. That's so interesting. You would have thought that
thirty years later like it would have we would have progressed,
we would have like learned or but I guess maybe
there's more people in the world of course now, Um,
(21:58):
but we're so much more informed now women. Yeah, that's true.
That's true. And Brenda went in to get checked out
and she's with her mom. I thought it was I
thought it was so weird that the doctor told the
mom to get out of the room and she would
speak to Brenda. I'm like, does that happen? I don't
(22:19):
have kids that are teenagers, but does that happen? It's
if there's a weird fine line when you're your kid
becomes uh uh, you know, an independent person and they
can function on their own and they should speak for themselves.
And have you had to leave the room? Yes? I
have had to leave the room? You wow, wow? Um,
(22:40):
Because you know, of course it's like are you I asked,
are you okay with me leaving room and whatever the
circumstances were, um, And they always said yes. And and
of course I knew who they were going to be
sitting with and talking with and um. And I also
after they finished the meeting, I would kind of get
(23:02):
a general fill in from the doctor or the person
that they had met with. So it wasn't like I
was completely out of the loop, but they just want
to establish that kind of um with Yeah. And and
because you need that moving forward in your life, you
have to be able to have full disclosure with whoever
it is that you're speaking to a therapist or a
(23:23):
doctor of any kind, you know. And so I think
I think that's an important step in um, just becoming
an adult and becoming your own voice. And I think
I thought it was a good thing. But it was
definitely you could tell Cindy wasn't comfortable with it. Yeah,
I wouldn't be either, but I guess I have to be. Yeah,
the first time it happens, you'll see it sort of
(23:45):
plays out in front of your eyes, and you'll make
the right decisions. You'll you'll do the right thing, but
it will feel a little weird mm hmm. And the
doctor I thought was so great, she reminded me of
my kind of colleges that I had. This is so weird, right,
she remembers to me of doctor Goldman Um who was
(24:07):
my first guy ecologist. And I had moved to l A.
I didn't have any doctors or anything and I must
have been sixteen or seventeen, and at some point I
needed a guy know, and I didn't know who to ask,
so I asked my manager and Brandy James. He's a man.
Why I asked him for a reference from my guy, No,
(24:28):
I don't know, but he gave me one. I guess
he probably calls himone and asked them he is the
keeper of all knowledge that he really is the go to.
So he's had good on that because Dr Goldy was
my my gun incolegist until she retired last no. Two
years ago now before the pandemic. Yes, and she delivered
(24:51):
my first baby and then she was supposed to deliver
my other kids, but she retired from baby delivering. So yeah,
but yeah, anyway, I love the guy in colleges. I
love the guy, loved her. I loved her in the episode.
And did you notice Jen at the hospital when Brenda
(25:13):
goes in and she's getting Um, she's getting the biopsy
they say in the background, um, paging Dr Rosen. I
like our executive producer was Chuck Rosen? Rosen, Dr Rosen,
please come to admitting that is a fun fact that
(25:35):
Another crazy takeaway is that everyone is you guys are
all taking the s a t s because you're juniors,
and it's common to take the SA t s when
you're a in the springtime, when you're a junior. But
then no, well the show started out as juniors, but
then when the second season picked up over the summer,
(25:55):
got really popular, so then producers and and create has
decided to keep all of you as juniors one more year.
It didn't really bring light to it, So I'm curious
to see, like if we'll see the s a t
s happen again? Or are you sure we weren't sophomores
when we started and David was a freshman. I fact
(26:17):
checked it because I was so thrown off what it
would have been that we were soph and David and
Scott were a freshman? Yeah, or was it just not
mentioned that the first season or it was it just
really wasn't mentioned per se. But you know, sophomores don't
take the s a t s. In fact, if you
(26:39):
read on like some articles, that says basically you were
all juniors. But they basically wanted to milk the high
school years as much as possible, so they just repeated
the junior for season three. So season three. Okay, so
we were juniors again and then David was suddenly a
junior with us. He moves up somehow. That's like soap
(27:03):
operas when suddenly, like I mean soap opera's fact, you
can like tune in thirty years later and be like, oh,
the same characters are here. It's just things are a
little different. You can go right back into it. But
I love when they have babies, like one one time
in the soap opera and then the next thing you know,
they're sixteen years old and have their own storyline and
it's like there were a year in between. Mm hmm. Sorry,
(27:27):
I tell girls, okay, are back to talking about s
A T. S Oh. Yeah, we're getting some facts that
you can practice for the practice s A T exams
as a sophomore, but official tests or junior year. So
why did Dylan, I was confused on this, say that
he's going to be surfing when he talked to Brenda
and he said, and I'll take mind senior year when
you guys are all taking them now, and I'll be surfing.
(27:50):
Why would he do that because he was just cool guy?
How could you take it senior year and like be okay,
you can still tell ye beginning of your senior year
he must have been a smarty pants then I think
he must have been. Yes, here's the thing that drives
(28:10):
me nuts about the S A T. S is I
and and test like this. I know I was in
this group like test panicked me. I would gets so overwhelmed.
But it doesn't mean and I feel like kids go
by scores and they're like, I'm not smart. I'm not smart.
Some people are just not good in fact at test taking.
So true and everything. I mean, it's better now, like
(28:31):
you said, Jen, that you don't have to but before,
oh my god, everything relied on that score, filling on
in those little bubbles. It was madness, really scary, stressed
me out when you think about it like that. Yeah,
my I always really tried to keep my girls calm
around any kind of test preparation, around any kind of homework,
(28:54):
any kind of school work. Honestly, I've always like, just relax,
it's not the end of the world. Old life is
about so much more than what you're learning or what
you're testing on right now, And just really try to
get them to calm down just so they could do
their best because yeah, some of their friends were I've
seen just freak out when they're have to have a
(29:16):
test and they just get so much anxiety and then
they flub it. M h, Yep, it's only a test.
It's only a test, people. I used to literally test
like obviously, not things like this because they were the
bubbles you have to fill in. But when there was
like a written test, I used to go in, you guys,
and I would be covered head to toe in like
(29:37):
facts of what I had studied arm written on my latest. Second,
that's cheating, well only if you get caught. So, oh
my god, you're oh my god. It was. But here's
the thing. I couldn't have known the test. I was
just writing like things I had studied and memorized. I
(29:58):
didn't do it all the time, you know, I'm dramatic.
So she did it one story. She wrote something on
her hand one time. I've never cheated on a test, Jenny.
I mean, I don't know. I don't remember cheating on
a test. Now. I remember taking a test once with
a hangover. I hope my kids don't listen to this one,
(30:20):
but yeah, I remember going to school and I had
gotten had done some drinking the night before and the
next day I still felt drunk and I took a test.
I did really well on it. Though. Let's talk about
Brenda's dream. Oh that dream. First of all, she looked
beautiful and it's so beautiful. The dream looked like a
(30:40):
like a like a movie like I don't know, like
a who's that guy that did Beetle juice Tom tim Burton? Know,
it just reminded me of timber maybe the lady and
the smoke and the way she was dressed. It was
really cool. It was beautiful. Um, I wonder I mean,
I personally love that they chose to put her in
(31:02):
white not black in her dream, which was expected, right,
Such a beautiful casket. It us like a beautiful casket.
The casket thing is weird though, very fluffy. Yeah, I
looked very comfortable. I wouldn't mind taking a little nap
in there, But I don't know about being in that
for the forever. And have you ever had to do
(31:24):
a TV movie where you're laying in a casket? How
you m? It's freaky creepy. It is creepy, like no thanks,
And I liked the little bit of foreshadowing when she's
going around to everyone and they're filling in the you know,
a B or C. What would you choose? And uh,
(31:46):
Kelly had to choose. Uh sorry, I'm not going to
get it dead on, but uh, basically take Brunda's boyfriend
and she goes Kelly because that's the one you obviously chose,
and not that you took him. You can't take a
boyfriend our husband, like or a girlfriend or a wife
or a partner. Uh. They do with their own thing.
(32:08):
But later on you and I liked the little job
that you did with that. That's what they do when
they march off and leave the other one. I don't know, um,
but you know that was foreshadowing and I'm sure they
didn't even did they know the storyline that they were
going to put you know, Kelly and Jyllan together when
Brenda wanted. I'm sure that there was a lot of story.
I know people don't like us to spoil, but like,
(32:33):
I feel like they definitely knew that at some point
all the characters were going to be intertwined with each other.
There's only so many characters too. Yeah, I mean, heck,
nobody saw Andrea and Steve kids. That's true. That's true.
But I did think that the dream was beautiful and
(32:53):
so well done and I enjoyed watching that. And I
also really like the scene with the twins that when
they were sitting on the b together and they were
talking and Brenda was crying about her aunt that had died,
and oh, it just was so sweet. I like that scene. Yeah,
it was an emotional episode. It really creep That creeped
(33:13):
me out, though, like, what are the chances that they
would give the aunt that had breast cancer? She had
breast cancer right? Or was a different cancer? Is breast cancer? Right? Um?
That at thirty five? You know, she Sheila was her name,
and then I'm sorry, I just can't think. I was
like Sheila Shannon, like, I don't know. It was just
like weird coincidences that no one could predicted. But what
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she was saying to really got me. It was she
was saying that her aunt just became so so lonely
m h. And she's sort of like distanced herself from
the people in her life that loved her because she
had to, she wanted to. That's but it really got
(33:56):
me just thinking about that, you know, and in the
connection and made me want to reach out, but I do.
I do want to say though, regarding that we talked
about before, was now it's one in eight women, and
I and how that sort of seems like we're going backwards.
But I do think that the because of early detection
(34:20):
and all the improved treatments, the deaths from breast cancer
have dropped significantly, actually seventeen, so great strides are being
made and we definitely acknowledge that it's so important. And
(34:41):
but it's all about the early detection with anything. You
guys like not to be too serious, but you guys
have to be your own health advocate. You have to
be the CEO of you in every respect, and you
need to take stock in your health and pay attention
because you're the only one that's going to there's no
doctor out there that's going to, you know, keep track
(35:04):
of you and make sure you go all your appointments
and make sure you're completely healthy over the years. There's
no spouse, no partner that's going to do it for you.
You have to do it for yourself, and it's best
to do it now, Like start today, do something that
you're like, I know you know this is in my
genetic makeup heart disease or breast cancer, any kind of cancer,
(35:28):
Like if you know you have genetic pre existing risk factors,
start there and go look into um getting you know,
start with an annual checkup of that specific thing um
and target your attention so that you guys are taking
care of care of yourselves because I want you to.
(35:50):
It's all sorry, stop preaching, be proactive. No, it's everything
you're saying is so right on and so important. And
I think a lot of times we forget, you know,
even as as we forget and you fall back and
you're like, oh what am I doing? Of course, but
here you know, people be like sixteen, isn't that too young?
But like it's not to look at Brenda. She had
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you know, she did have a tumor and it worked out,
but you just never know. So m She had a
lot of support though, from her parents, all of her friends,
even though Kelly and Donna couldn't really figure out the
right words trying to make her feel better. That hug
at the hand though, it was so sweet and the
(36:33):
gift been like when they showed him the gift thing,
guss gift basket ever made it? You have the floral
arrangement from like the Four Seasons or something, where did
you get that it's so big and obnoxious? We are
like we were overcompensating, I think for our inability in
the previous I felt real bad about it, but I
(36:55):
felt that scene at the school where they're finding out
about it was really genuine because you wouldn't kids don't.
I wouldn't have known at that age what to say
or how to be there for someone. So I felt
like it was a pretty accurate scene was really authentic.
And I loved Brandon in this episode. Yeah, he was
(37:16):
so thoughtful and it was about somebody else. I felt
like it's that last scene with her mm hmm, like
sitting on the bed, just like I would have missed
you so much, Like I don't know. I was just like, ah,
did you missed your brother? Um? Well, he's that sounded
(37:37):
that sounds important. It's not because he's not dead, but
it made you like it reminds you of that like
sibling connection. And it didn't make you because you have
a brother that's close to your age. So yes, my
brother is five years younger and I do miss him.
He lives importantly. I missed him all the time. Um,
but just I think the yeah, you're right. The note
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there is don't wait till it's something that could be
life or death to tell someone I love you. That
was the thing with Brandon, like you know, he was
we don't see them often enough kind of we see
the sibling rivalry and they kind of support each other.
But this was just like whoa. It was presented to
him that this could be major. She could die, someone
in their family did die from this, and he was like,
(38:23):
he poured his heart out and it was so cute. Yeah,
I love a gooey Brandon moment. Me too, and was Dylan.
So Dylan told Brenda I love you right outside her
front door. Was big, that's the first time. That's the
first time I believe. So yeah, and then she that's
(38:47):
why she calls him, and all she says is I
love you, and then she hangs up with answering machine.
Note you said answering machine. I was going to say voicemail,
but nope, it was an answering machine. Answering machines back
and have a message at the beep. And remember when
people would try to be funny. You probably did that
to any message after the beep, and then you go
(39:10):
beep before it would actually be maybe I don't know
you do the bake hellos hello, and then they think
you answered hello Hello, Okay, hey, that was fun. Thanks
us for acting that up for me. Have you changed
your voice more recently? I have not lever listened to
(39:32):
my voice, Smail? How would I know? What is it?
Her voice? Smail makes like she'll let it go to
the answer room. She didn't want to hear what it says.
I swear I have no idea, So I can't tell
you how many times I have called and it's and
I'm like hey. So it's like I gotta tell her
something about work, and I'm like hey, and I start
talking and then I hear her like she's messing with people,
and say I want to hear it, say hello like
(39:53):
like you're answering, and so then you start talking and
then you realize I don't know what you're talking about.
All right, well don't pick up Okay, okay, yeah, okay, okay,
what's up? I bet you changed it? Oh we almost
answered it. Okay, she's calling me and no, that's different.
(40:18):
At the No that did that didn't sound like hey,
it's me like almost like your answers their phone. Hey
it's me. No, I'm telling you. You guys before it
was like hey, like you you Literally every time I'd
be like, oh, I got fooled again because I'd be like, oh, hey,
how are you and then she'd be like it would
be beat beat, and then she'd be like, leave a
(40:40):
message and I can't. I can't remember the last time
you actually left me a voice message on any device
like that. This doesn't happen anymore. Doesn't know you don't okay.
So also, you and I both are known hate talking
on the phone. Hate. I do not like to talk
(41:00):
on the phone ever, like phone phobia. We have phone phobia.
It's not weird. We've had that forever, Like we have
that in common to like, it's just even though I'm
like family members, I don't want it takes a lot
for me to be like, let's get on a phone
call and chat it up to me too. Um, So
I am going to announce them that my best friend
(41:21):
I don't know what I did last night. Yes, so
she's been uh sliding into my d M s. You're
so um, you're so like young and relevant like so
that's the new thing, Like no one no one like
texts people anymore. That's them. I'm lazy, is what it is.
I'm too bringing lazy to switch to the messages because
(41:42):
I happened to be on my Instagram and I see
a message, so I just respond there because you're already there.
That's true. And so the thing is you can tell
when someone's active. So you're like, hey, if you like
reply and they don't reply back, well, I guess that's
not true either, because if you have it on your background,
it's if you leave your app on, you're always yeah, okay,
so my apps always on? I don't know. Yes. So
(42:04):
she was like texting me, but d m ng me
and I didn't check it. And then when I checked
it last night, I was like, oh my god, and like,
are you bringing this up? I'm only bringing it up
because I feel like dm NG is very relevant right now.
And if I hear one more person say hey, oh yeah,
let's get in touch, I'll just, you know, slip into
my d M. And I'm like, sounds so dirty, slip
(42:27):
into my d M. I'd rather text me. It's more.
I don't know if there's something more personable about it, right,
But that's how like social Yeah, slip, but why do
they say slip? It sounds really nasty to my d M.
And then someone yesterday told me they were like, hey,
just drop into my DM. I'm like, oh in my
(42:48):
outstated now I had just gotten like cool with like
slip into my d M, and now I'm like, oh,
I think it's dropped now to your d M. Is
when you know you have all the d m s
and you don't notice it and then and then you
see it later. I think I drop into your d
M must be like bam, I just sent it like
we dropped right? Interesting? Interesting, Okay, yeah, these are very
(43:10):
important conversations everybody, Ye JOHNA. Martin. So it's like there
you go. Well we need to talk about fashion and
our our favorite lines and then also get to a
few emails. Um, so let's take a break and we'll
come back. Hey. This is Becca Tilly and Tanya Rada
(43:37):
Rad that's me. Yeah, and we have a podcast called
scrubbing In. Yeah, we do. We are two best friends
and we love Grey's Anatomy, hence the name scrubbing In exactly.
And this week we have one of Grey's Anatomy's very
own Anthony Hill, who plays Winston on the podcast to
chat about what's been going on. If you follow as aonomy,
(44:00):
you know that. I mean, there's just a lot to
talk about. There are sudden deaths, people are coming back
this season. There's a whole lot going on. It is
a huge season for Grey's Anatomy. So I highly suggest
you tune in. And you're not just gonna get Gray's Anatomy.
I mean, we have girl talk. It's just girl talk.
It's like you're talking with your best friends on the couch. Yeah,
except not with your best friends. You're talking with us,
(44:21):
your virtual best friends, virtual bfs. That's right. So listen
to Scrubbing In on the I Heart Radio app on
Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So in
this episode, the rem Brands song played during Steve and
Andreas very surprising. Kiss Um, why don't we talk to
(44:42):
the rem Brands? Now we have Phil solom on the
line from the rem Brands, your half of the rem Brands.
This is what I find interesting about you had have
had over four decades of friendship and beautiful artistic collaboration
with one person, with Danny Wild, And I find that
(45:04):
sort of symbolic because Tory and I kind of have
that seem very long history together, still working together, still
loving it, and I was just thinking, like, what do
you think is the secret to that kind of a
successful relationship with a partner. Um Probably that we just
don't know what else to do and we just keep
on doing whatever comes up. You know, if there's a secret,
(45:28):
somebody please tell me. Well, I think it's pretty obvious
that you guys have a great love for each other
and that you have, um built a level of trust
that you don't maybe have with other people. So you
guys are comfortable well to each other. Yeah, we have
a I don't know if it's like an intrinsic thing.
(45:49):
From the minute we met, we kind of knew that
there would be some you know, we were in separate
bands out in Hollywood at the time and just kind
of ended up like, wow, okay, we created a new
band and got in it, and then eventually this remembrance
thing happened. So yeah, on again, off again, right. I
(46:12):
love that. I love that about you guys. Relationship and
remembrance for me, just there's just so melodic and there's
so many beautiful harmonies, and that's just think Yeah, that's
what you guys your I think, wasn't your breakout kind
of song for the Remembrance? Wasn't it just the way
it is? Baby, that's just the way that's just exactly.
(46:49):
As a matter of fact, that's the first song that
we recorded as the Rembrands, and we weren't in called
The Remembrance the time. We just got together to write
some tunes and maybe get a publishing deal, and that
was the first song we wrote, and h it was
the first thing record and it just kind of all
fell into place from that. How did we get so
(47:10):
lucky to have no show? I mean, we had your
music on the show, but do you remember, I mean,
you have so much to remember. How did we get
so lucky to be on the show? Thank you? But
we felt lucky to have you grateful? Yeah, that was
big for us. That was major. Oh really it was
(47:31):
more major thing to show well we both benefited in
a good way. Then yeah, okay, can we get to
the Friends theme song? Now? I'm time to know what
would you like to know? That was your second song? Right,
(48:04):
hit song? Well, we had a couple other songs that
weren't quite that didn't you know, really become smashes or anything.
But then pretty early on Yeah, we stumbled into the
Friends camp and when that came out, we were just
we really thought it was just going to be like
(48:25):
we will be the mystery sound of this show and
that that will be that. But then our excuse me,
a record company decided because there were so many requests
everywhere on radio stations for it and it was only
a forty two second long song. Oh my god, you
guys are going to write more to this and finish it.
(48:49):
We're gonna put it on your record. And that's how
it happened. Wait, I have a question. Sorry, I probably
everyone knows the answer to this, but what came first?
The chicken or egg? Like? You had the song? It
was a hit, and then friends, how does that work?
They license it to be the theme song or you
wrote it for them. We wrote it with the music
director of the show, and he had the idea of
(49:13):
mainly how it would scan out. Has to be this long,
it has to be here's some parts. He had some
he jammed out some piano stuff, and then we uh,
you know, experimented and they have Allie Willis sending lyrics
from her place via facts I Love her, I have
facts machine. Well, I have a crazy question. Do you
(49:37):
get paid every time that song comes on? Jenny Garth,
I'm sorry, you get a little slice. You know. The
show is just I think they're saving it. They're going
to surprise this one name a big present, a big
Christmas bonus. My twelve year old and my nine year
(49:59):
old or obsessed with friends now and they've discovered it
and they think it's like their show. They have no
idea that I was like, oh my god in the nineties,
like this was our show. They think it's something new
for them, and they're like friends, and they have all
like the merchandise that's out now and Target like friends,
and they they walk around singing the song and it
blows my mind because I'm like, oh my god, that
(50:20):
was me in the nineties and now my kids are
singing it, so yeah, you span generations. Wait, so Courtney
Cox playing, she learned to play the song on the piano.
She actually played. Yeah, I saw that couple three four
weeks ago she uh put a video out on Instagram
and I was, yeah, it was her playing. I didn't
(50:43):
know she could play piano, but you know, we did
a video together with those guys and Courtney played drunes
and video. That's right. So I've always wanted to ask
a famous musician this, but um, I don't know any
You're You're the only famous musician I know. So what
what happens when you're in a rust or in a
bar and you hear them play one of your songs? Like?
(51:04):
What happens? Does everyone look at you? And are you like? Like?
What do you do? My My internal calculator starts adding
up how we get? I love you? Man? So wait,
so what are you? What's coming up next for you?
What do you got on the back burner or the
front burner? I don't know. Well, it's funny because we
(51:28):
just released a new album last year, well actually the
end of and Uh, and then we were fixing to
get out on the road and promote it, and we
had a whole tour booked and then this COVID thing
kicked in and everything got canceled. So maybe we'll pick
(51:49):
up where we left off when when it's safe, if
you ever go back out, we could be your groupies
when when it's safe to go back out. I'm kind
of us about going back out. Spent a whole year
in my house. Well, I think I'm hope that you
guys are comfortable and everyone is able to come and
(52:10):
see your your concerts coming up. We just want to
say thank you so much. Thank you, it was great
talking to you. Were such fans. Yeah, everybody has linked
(52:31):
love language, you know, how you show your love to
someone or how it is that you show up in
a relationship. For me and my husband, communication is not
our strong suit. We don't communicate easily efficiently together or
(52:52):
to anyone. But we're just not good communicators. So my
husband made me. Um, when I had to go to Canada,
he made me or how would I have to go anywhere?
He makes me want a playlist and when you listen
to the music, you get the message of whatever he's
really truly feeling, like, because all of the songs say
(53:13):
something amazing and make you feel so loved and like
just talk about he's the luckiest man in the world,
and you know, like he communicates through his music. I
think that's Oh my god, I'm rushing on Dave right now.
Oh my god. He'll make you one too. He loves
to do it. I swear maybe it'll be it'll have
a different theme obviously, but he'll make Oh my god,
(53:39):
So I'm gonna slip into Dave's d M s. No,
I'm sorry, I'm in. I'm I follow him, so he
follows me, so drop it. I'll drop a d M
to him and say, Dave, like for my birthday, when
you make me a playlist? He will be so happy
to do that. I was looking on Instagram yesterday and
Dave was on and um he by the way, he's
(54:00):
the most supportive like friend ever. Like all my stories,
Dave's always there. It makes me feel really good. No,
I'm always like, oh good. Is it that? Or is
he just spending a way too much time on his
I think he's efficient. I don't know. I feel special
too much. But he was eating what looked like a
(54:21):
can of peanut butter. Oh my god, did he even?
I almost like he wasending first made me think I
was like, oh he's missing her. Look at this looking
poor guy. It's come to that, and you know what
it's come to that made bad deep in the pantry.
You guys, it's not just a jar of peanut butter
your can. It's a giant can from like restaurant depot.
(54:46):
Because I bake the pies for his restaurants sometimes. Oh,
and I have a lot of supplies. That is one
of my pie baking supplies. And he would ate it
like that's for the pies. But like like you're talking
about it about communication in your own love language, like
that picture set a thousand words. I was like, Oh,
(55:09):
he's ready for her to come home. The canopy in
butt industrial size, it was night. Oh that's good. Should
we talk fashion? We didn't. Oh we didn't. Oh, man didn't.
(55:30):
I didn't. There was no like like standout fashion moments
for me in this episode. I mean, all the boys
kind of looked the same as each other. Pleaded pants,
blousy man, blousy shirts. Dylan it's the first time I've
seen Dylan and as Steve Blouse. My writer, am I right?
(55:50):
I was like, go to the blouse barn are right,
let's see. Yeah, And it was like I'm looking at
a picture it right now, black collar, black sleeves, and
it was like puke green and like lavender straight, Like
what's happening. It's crazy. Then they had a really cool
(56:11):
pink suit at the hospital. Cindy looked great. Yeah, she
had another the other time when she went to the
doctor's office, with Brenda. She showed up at the school.
She looked like a Beverly Hills mom all of a sudden.
See funny enough, I didn't love her outfits in this episode.
I felt like they were trying her when her hairs
like loose and she had her mom jeans and a
(56:33):
blouse tucked in and just kind of looks so like
they definitely felt like the costumer was trying to her
aunt to change her Yeah, fitting into Beverly Hills. Her
hair looked different. It was like all around different. I mean,
I'm going to be honest. She looked older like she
usually looks so care free and fun and young and
(56:56):
like cool mom and I love her looks. And here
I was like, oh, this is like an example when
people are like, oh my god, do I look like you?
Kind of I look like I'm wearing my mom's clothes,
like she looked like she was wearing mom mom clothes.
There wasn't a lot of other great fashion modes. Did
you guys have a favorite line from the episode? Perto
lay it on me? Um? So my line I loved
(57:18):
and I'm sure you guys loved this one too. Was
Brenda's hope for the best expect the worst. I didn't
like that line. You don't like it, No, philosophically I
disagree with it hope for the best because it's like
kind of like, Okay, here's the worst case scenario. If
I expect the worst, then I can only be like
(57:39):
happy with anything better. I guess you're right, it's a
little glass half empty. But yeah, I just I don't know.
I don't think you should expect the worst in any situation.
I think you should always expect the best. Fine, you're right,
and it's like manifestation. Yeah, like, don't even think about
(58:00):
the worst, think about the best cards anyway? Okay, sorry,
going um mine. We talked about kind of already and
it wasn't my favorite per se, but it stood out
to me, and it was Kelly and Donna telling Brenda,
and I think Kelly is the one that said it
that she really doesn't hope that that that ever happens
(58:22):
to her breasts, and then it was just it just
came out so wrong and we both made it about us.
I hope it doesn't exactly and then like me to um,
what else? Oh, did I have a favorite line? Did
you let me think? I want to think Oh, yeah,
(58:47):
I would have to be. I guess my hormones are
raging at the end, when Brenda says that when she
doesn't have the thing, I thought, I thought it was
really cute, and I thought that it well, that was cute.
I think they even like showed a glimpse of Dylan
when she says that, tell me about it, Yeah, right,
tell me about it? All right. We have some questions
(59:11):
from listeners. Ashley is saying, I have a question for
Jenny and torr. Out of all the different seasons of
NOO to know, have you ever been jealous or envious
of someone else's character or storyline at the time? Was
there ever a story arc you wish your character would
have gotten to experience. Well, Ashley, as you asked that question,
(59:35):
I was thinking, what would it be? What would it be? Um?
The only thing that came to my mind instantly, which
I'm sure there were other instances definitely where I was like, oh,
that would have been so cool to have that storyline, um,
was when we were all at the This is a
spoiler alert, but I have to um, we were all
(59:56):
at Dylan, and I think her mind name was Tony's
wedding on a Cliff overlooking the Pacific Ocean in Malibu.
I just remember, wish it was you, I did well.
I wish that was me getting married to Dylan. Oh really,
I can't remember that vividly because we were just the
guests for more of the sake of Kelly marrying Dylan,
(01:00:19):
or just for the fact that, like you wanted to
act out a wedding, like being a wedding dress. Both.
I wanted to marry Dylan, Okay, I wanted Kelly to
be marrying Dylan and having that special, beautiful wedding because
it was beautiful. I don't know. I'm biting my tongue,
my lips, everything, I'm biting everything because it's so multi layered. Whatever.
(01:00:43):
What was, what's yours? What's yours? This question? Damn it.
She's like, don't go there, you need to answer. I
think for me, it was probably the first couple of
seasons just um, not jealous so much, but watching all
the girls have storylines and dialogue and and kind of
(01:01:04):
you know, my my character grew slowly, so it was
just a lot of one liners, which, honestly, sometimes one
liners are harder, especially if they're not going if you
have a zinger of a funny one liner, that's easier.
But if you're sitting in a scene and you have
one line and there's a whole scene you're depending on,
Like you're looking and you're happy, you're listening, and you're listening,
(01:01:26):
and your eyes and you know, it's just it's difficult.
I just looked really crazy. I don't that seems going
to be weird, but that there were times where I
was like, Oh, I can't I can't wait. I hope
one day I have like a big storyline, I can
have a scene where it's two of us and I'm
just we're talking back and forth. And it happened. Obviously,
(01:01:47):
your dreams came true. They hated it. I didn't expect
the worst. That's exactly my point. People, You're right, Okay,
Sean is asking a very serious and long question. Um,
so here we go. How does this make you, guys feel?
(01:02:08):
Now watching the show and seeing Brenda with a scare
and knowing Shannon is currently battling her second round of
stage four. Also, after Shannon left the show, there was
an estrangement as far as I know from the media,
between Jenny and Shannon. But when Shannon had cancered the
first time. Jenny posted this wonderful tribute and created the
best hashtag hashtag fight like Brenda. It was so moving
(01:02:33):
and wonderful to see the sisterhood and bond of the
friendship reignited after all those years. How did that all
come about? Well, Sean, that is a long question. Um. First,
I'll dressed the beginning. I think that. Yeah, we already
(01:02:57):
kind of talked about that in the beginning of the episode.
How was out of It was hard for us to
watch this, yeah, and who knew? And and now watching
it back, it's it's eerie and it's not it's not good.
It's not a good feeling. Now it was you know,
we I remember like when she had fought in and
(01:03:20):
overcame and was in remission. We we looked back and
we're like, oh, that was a coincidence. But she came
back from it, and obviously you're correct, she's you know,
battling it again. But um, we believe in her and
she's such a strong, strong woman. UM, and she does
so much. She's such an inspiration for women everywhere, UM
(01:03:42):
going through this. So it's still hard to watch them.
M hmm. I'll be glad to get to the next episode.
And I mean to address the other part of your
question because I don't want to be rude. Um. Yeah,
there was, uh you know, there was the word out
there that Shannon and I didn't get along or we
(01:04:03):
were estranged as you called it. Um. I don't think
that's the case though. I mean, Shannon and I are
two aries women. I don't need to say any more
than that. Um. We lock horns sometimes as rams, do,
(01:04:23):
you know. And I actually like that about her and
she likes that about me. So UM, we've never had
a problem with our differences. I don't think. Uh, there's
been times when there's been feelings hurt and things said,
but that you your sisters. At the end of the day,
(01:04:45):
there's a bond that we all have with one another,
all the cast members have with one another that it
it is like it's like super glue. You can never
break that bond. And so we're all going to be
there to support each other at the end of the day,
no matter what any of us are going through. Whenever
(01:05:06):
one of us truly needs the other one, I know
that they will be there for me, and just like
we are for Shannon. But I didn't know that you
did that hashtag fight like a Brenda. I love that
because it's so true. I mean yeah, I mean that's
a good one. I made up a good hashtag that day.
(01:05:30):
I might have a career in hashtags. You guys, Hey,
if this podcast thing doesn't work out, which it will
because we have five stars, but little it could be
your side hustle creating hashtags for people. I'm want to
work on it. Good stuff. Well, I think that does
it for today's podcast, Ladies Homework Assignment is Episode nineteen.
(01:05:52):
April is the cruelest month. Be there we We will
see you all next week. Bye, guys, I lippened to
my d N. I'm just kidding that, like the funny
one liner at the end.
Hosts And Creators
Tori Spelling
Jennie Garth
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