Life's a Beach'am (S2 E10, “Necessity Is a Mother”)

"Dylan's mom" joins Jennie and Tori, iconic actress Stephanie Beacham (aka Iris McKay).

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Guess what. We're
back this week on a new and exciting episode of
nine O two one O m G. It's t It's
Jay and it's as sisneys back. You think, hey, Sis,

(00:26):
this is a tree because I got to watch two
episodes back to back, because I watched the last weeks
so I can catch up, and then plus this nice.
I was in a flow. I almost wanted to start
the next one. I was like, I have to stop bening.
I really was. How is Hawaii? Oh it's so relaxing.
We missed the kids, of course, but it was a

(00:47):
much needed parent only vacation. Right. We were discussing, like,
is it a baby moon when it's here? Well, we
would typically say second, but it's your third but your
second birth. Yes exactly, so yeah it was a baby moon. Well,
we're glad you're back. We're glad you're back, and I'm
sure all the listeners are glad you're back because very

(01:08):
I'm happy to be back because when you're not when
you're not here, Sis, I actually have to do my homework.
Yeah that's not sure, do you do you? I have
very detailed notes this week I'm so excited, you guys,
this is me for this podcast. I'm gonna sit back,

(01:29):
I'm gonna relax. Ab let Tori run the show. This
is good because student, you do the hard work. This
is cool though, because Tory, you're kind of the star
student in this episode, so it really matches up. I
was just living living up to my image, like imitating art.
So let's get into it. Let's do it. She's ready

(01:53):
to go, you guys, Let's talk about this week's episode.
Episode ten of season two, Necessity Is a Mother, aired
on September n Synopsis. Dylan's long es strange mother, Iris
comes for a visit from Hawaii, which soon lands him
in trouble at a local billiards club. Meanwhile, Steven Donna

(02:16):
decided to play the stock markets. Yeah Baby. Directed by
Jefferson Kiddie, written by Darren Starrs, Steve Wasserman, and Jessica
Klein and starring us and starring Us Yes, this episode
was a lot all about Dylan and his mama. Enter

(02:38):
the fabulous Stephanie Beacham, Iris McKay. Who guess what you
guys we have on our show today. That's right, we'll
get to that a little bit later, but we're interviewing
her and we have some very fond memories and it'll
be great to catch up. So let's dive right into
the beginning of the episode, shall we we? Shall um? Okay,

(03:03):
right out of the gate, Dylan looks just amazing in
the pool hall. He is everything he needs to be.
That that is just him at his prime. I feel
like he looks beautiful. He just right right away. Guys
like it. It made me think of that old movie

(03:26):
cool Hand Luke get it? And now he does look great.
Do you remember if it was he a good pool player?
I mean he Dylan was he? They certainly made it
look like he was a good pool player. I don't
know if that was real. It looked real, it did.
It made it look like a good surfer too, which
he was not. He was not. But I'll tell you

(03:48):
what he's not good at. He's not good at driving.
Um he's driving that. There's a scene where he's driving
Brenda home from wherever and he rips into the driveway
like a bad out of hell? That's isn't that the
expression of bad out of hell? And he is, uh,
he's not a very good drive for he like drives
over the curb and slams on the brakes. Maybe he

(04:09):
was mad, maybe he was already drunk. I don't know,
something's going on. Yeah, maybe that that's just how you
gotta If you have a car like that, you just
gotta drive it like that. Maybe that's the thing. That's
how bad boys drive cars like that, anti cars like that.
M hmm. Brenda's ties back, I was very happy. I've

(04:30):
gotten to passion. I don't care for that look. I
know that you guys like it happy, I'm not my favorite. Well, yeah,
Brenda's tires back. It was a different tie look, like
this would be her second tie ensemble. Yeah, that's right,
it's back. I wonder how many different ties we're going
to see. How popular was that look in the nineties,

(04:51):
Like is that where women wearing that to work? And
that was like the style. I found a picture of
myself on a talk show where I was in a
white tied shirt, button down shirt, a tie and suspenders
and pants. So I was taking one out of Shamon's book.
Maybe what color was your tie red or something? I

(05:11):
matched my lip to it. You know, it's very Paula Abdul, right,
didn't she wear that book a lot. I'm going on record,
I'm not a fan of that, and I know this
one loves Annie Hall and now she wants to go
to that look at some point in her life and
she's not doing it. I don't want to be Annie Hall.
I want to be just tying. Can't Keaton. I want

(05:35):
to be It's it's like smart lady, look, mhm is,
don't mess with me. Look I like it. Well, we
were pulling into the driveway with Brenda, so his mom
is there. He it's unexpected. She's there from Hawaii. Um,
which we'll get to this later, but Stephanie Beacham tells

(05:55):
us they made her from Hawaii because she had the
worst American accent ever. Yes, you can, you can tell.
I was like, what is the accent? Is that American
or is that British? But I feel like it was
British kind of trying to be American but it didn't
really go over so well. So they made her from Hawaii,

(06:15):
which makes absolutely no sense. It was Madonna. It was
very very on trend at that point. I enjoyed it.
She was beautiful. I loved her hippie look, her whole
like easy going vibes and departure for her as an actress,
because coming from you know, other shows that she had done,
Dynasty and everything, she's always so glammed up and like

(06:38):
made up. This was just really natural and pretty, Stephanie,
did you like that ty die? Like that silk? I
feel like we would wear that nowadays, Like it wasn't nineties,
but it was like it would be in now Like
that tide kind of tied up shirt with the matching skirt.
I loved it. Does she looked comfy, Let's bring that back.
Did you like her little braids? Two little braids to

(07:03):
really set the mood that she's out there. Yeah, that
was like a note. I bet that note came from
my dad, who was very invested in hair and makeup.
Oddly enough um and war Jobe, but it was very like,
I want their hair this way, And he always had
to see polaroids were in back then, UM, and he
would always bring them home in his briefcase. But I

(07:24):
bet that was a note like let's do something hippie esque.
Mm hmm. So Iris was also really into astrology, which
I know you love. I loved that. Um. Yeah, I
like I like her whole vibe, but I feel like

(07:45):
she's she's super super cool. She comments that Dylan is
a Libra and that Brenda is a Scorpio, which isn't
a great match. But Luke actually was a Libra. I
are so that's in October eleven, so it's interesting that

(08:08):
they wrote that in the Dylan was a Libra as well.
But Shannon's actually an aries like you my best friend,
although you guys are very different, um in good ways. Uh,
And that's interesting. They made her scorpio, which would be November.
What is Kelly? That would be a question for I

(08:33):
don't know. Darren texts big fan, super duper fan with that,
not just a super fan, because I do believe in
astrology and um. Scorpios can be challenging and um and
Libras are kind of usually peacemakers. They usually don't have

(08:54):
tempers like Dylan McKay, but I don't think they go together.
By be curious to know what Helly is because I
wonder if that's a better match. No spoilers, You're a
sa Donna was a Sage or Capricorn. Christmas Christmas Day
would be cap Capricorns or I don't know. Decemb I

(09:17):
want to say, Sagittarius, does that feel Undonna? It worked
for the storyline one episode. I guess Iris does make
a comment though about um Brenda having really negative aura.
Did you guys hear that? I did? And I feel like, uh,
maybe I hate Brenda fan club was born right then

(09:38):
and there people were like, well, I mean, you can't
argue with it because she's so over the top with
Dylan and Iris in this episode, like she's on him
all the time and pretty rude to his mom. I mean,
I was like, why is she being so rude to
his mom? And I guess it was just based on
you know, Dylan sharing his experiences with her and talking

(10:02):
to her about it privately, but like she didn't have
any level of respect for her for his mom, which
I thought was a little weird. That's a little um
dare I say it? Um on female? I feel like instinctually, um,
we are there for women and we you know, women

(10:23):
support women. So even if you know the boy in
our lives is saying like the mother like you always
are like hmm, let me see what's really getting on?
Getting let me see what's really going on woman to woman.
So I was surprised as well that she kind of
came in very aggressive, defensively. It is your boyfriend's mom,
I would want to impress her a little, even if

(10:45):
they're estranged. I don't know, that's just me. Yeah, definitely,
So we got some on Kelly's birthday, it's inconsistent. Shoot
talk to kind of goes to the theme of the show, Okay,
talk to us. In season three, Kelly's eighteenth birthday was
celebrated in March, and then in season six, Kelly's twenty

(11:09):
one birthday was celebrated in September. Wait, air date, but
the air date? Doesn't they say it's March, or they
say it's September, because air date doesn't matter. It may
have been the episode date, Like whatever was happening in
the episode, what season was it? What were we wearing?
Was it? Like? Is that how we tell those season's Okay, wait, okay,

(11:34):
let's just go through this for a second. So if
it's March, I'm gonna go with March like end of March,
because then you could be an aries, which you really are.
And Dylan was a Libra, which Luke really was, and
that kind of makes a love story even better for me.
I like that because real playing really like it. I
like it. Let's go with that. Know what, if that's
what you want, that's what we're going to be. Kelly's

(11:55):
birthdays in March time stamped right here and here, right
here and here. Did you guys feel that it was
foreshadowing at all that Donna would be in business with
Steve and now Tory is in business with Ien that you,

(12:17):
my friend, I didn't get that at all. Okay, it's
so funny what you take away from things. So okay,
So jumping to the Donna Steve storyline, which I was
really grateful for. It was like a good story, juicy
storyline for me. Um finding my voice, which you know
is a big thing but over over arching theme in

(12:39):
Tori's real life, as Jenny would know. I know, and
that's so not me. Um. The character of Tori is no.
But it's like, finding my voice has been a big thing,
and my best friend always helps me find my voice,
and we've been working on it and I'm getting there.
You're getting their girls. Donna was getting there too. She

(13:03):
I felt like Kelly was a really bad friend to
Donna in this episode. I felt bad the way she
was treating Donna. I mean, she kept saying she was stupid,
and she didn't say you're stupid, she said, don't be stupid.
Don't be stupid. And also I didn't really understand why
Kelly would care that much about Donna spending money because,

(13:25):
as to Kelly, you know, money is just an evergreen thing,
you know. So I didn't under I didn't really get
why Kelly was supposed to be the voice of reason
for her. Maybe it went with the theme of the
episode of like mothering. Like it was almost like Kelly
was very mothering. You guys are both so smart today. Yeah,
this is where we are, but I'm loving it. Um. So,

(13:51):
I was gonna say another thing about my life, Like
I've always feared that people would think I was stupid.
Um just I don't know why. So that, like the
feeling of Donna thinking people will assume she's stupid is
very on point for me my whole life, thinking people
will assume I'm stupid. Um well, why do you think
people would think that? I have no idea. I'm not sure,

(14:14):
because I think you're a female. Um. I think it
came originally because who my dad was, and he was
the producer and people would make assumptions and perceptions, and
they would say things like, oh, she just has the
part because of her dad, and she can't act and
she can't can't, can't. I heard can't so many times
that I guess that went into my brain as I

(14:37):
can't be smart, I can't think for myself, I can't
have a voice, I can't anything because I'm just told
no so much publicly. Mhm. And also that's not true.
I was gonna say I wasn't that good in school,
but it wasn't bad. And you're super smart. You're smart.
Everybody has smart intelligence in different areas. I think. I

(14:59):
always tell my kids, Uh, I'm not book smart, I'm
street smart. Okay, So if you were going to have
to talk to me as your kid in a mothering way,
I'm not booked smart and I don't want street smart.
So what type of smart? Oh, let's we're gonna have
to come up with a different category, clearly, right, m

(15:19):
Your business smart? Oh not money. I didn't say money.
I did say don't go to them. I didn't say money.
But I think your business smart, thank you. I think
your business smart too. Um so, but it's funny, Donna
was good at the stock market, which is money, which

(15:43):
maybe that should have It made me laugh exactly. It
didn't rub off at all. The interesting thing is, if
they were going to write that in there, maybe my
dad would have been like, maybe I should teach her
about money and teacher investments and teacher about all the
stock market he and my mom's stock market. But nope,

(16:04):
nothing nothing. So I played it on TV. Didn't know
in real life, still don't. It's so funny because I
I don't think about money. I don't I'm not a
money minded person. And I don't do math like just ever,
Like I don't when you say numbers to me, even
if it's a phone number, my brain just goes like

(16:26):
I can't handle any kind of numbers. So I didn't
teach my kids about math or you know, money, finances, anything,
And I feel terrible about that. And I always said
to their dad, like you have to pick pick up
because I can't do this. I don't know, I don't
know anything about it. So just the other day, my

(16:47):
twenty four year old came and she was asking like
real life questions about um money and a job and
getting a raise and um w not nine ten one ten.
I see, I don't know stuff like this W nine forms.
Maybe I think I just think it's not the one
you clean with. It's not the Okay, she was asking

(17:10):
about all that stuff. Clearly I shouldn't ask you guys either,
but I was like, I don't really know, so thank goodness,
my husband Dave knows about it and um, but she said, yeah,
you and Dad were no help when I needed advice
about that kind of stuff because I was always like,
I don't know cale Andy, who's like in the business
management firm, Because I don't that's not good advice to

(17:32):
give your kids, Like you should sit down and try
to teach them about I guess money managed in school, Like, yeah,
we can't do it. School needs to teach it. I
don't think we should. We need to learn about trigometry
or whatever Brendan is talking about what even don't even
know what trigonometry is, but uh, they shouldn't teach about that.

(17:53):
They should teach about real life applications of like finances
and so many management and as basic as how to
write a check and like like it's things all the ways.
That's clearly nobody writes checks. I write a check every
week what do you What are you guys talking about?
I write a check every week? What are you talking about?

(18:13):
You get a check book out and write a check
to that person. There's still there's still some of you
out there. How do you wait? How do you do it?
If you don't write it? You guys? Venmo or electronic payments?
Some people don't have that. No, I know what you mean.
There's still some. So my housekeeper, who's literally Jen knows

(18:34):
her well, like work for my mom since I was thirteen,
started with me at eighteen. She's my grandma. I call
her mama. Um. She doesn't know about electric transfer. She
doesn't know this stuff, just like I don't. She didn't
have VENMO, so I write her a check. I mean,
I use checks still too, but I don't write them
out anymore. They come off of a computer. But I

(18:55):
still have a checkbook, but it's all out of checks,
like there's no checks that it you guys. I got
fancy with investing. I was on my Venmo the other
day and it told me I could do bitcoin, crypto,
all that jazz. Oh, clearly not. But it had the
arrows going up and down like a stock market, and
I saw the up arrow, So I said, you know what,

(19:17):
I'm gonna roll the dice and take a chance. I
invested a hundred dollars of my venmo in bitcoin. Yes
it's seven bitcoin. It sound seventy four dollars and twenty
three cents? Am I gonna be? Okay? Should I sell?
Donna sold? Should I sell? Write it out? Sell? I say, sell, sell, sell.

(19:39):
I have no idea. But if I sell it, I
only get seventy four dollars and three cents. No, no,
you will. But I'm just saying so at that point,
hold on, okay, you hold onto it. It'll come back up.
It'll come back up. And the minute it comes back up,
j G. The minute it comes back up, I'm selling it,
just like Donna did. I'm going to take a lesson

(20:00):
from my character on the show. Good for You. You'll
learned something from this, rewatch. I think that all of
our listeners have learned something from this episode two, and
it's how money illiterate we all three seem to be.
It's so sad because my dad is an accountant and
my um my husband works in finance. He's the director
of finance. Like I couldn't be more surrounded about with money,

(20:23):
and I'm just like, well, thank god, that's great that
you're going around you that are Yeah, you're gonna be okay.
We there's there's a saying. What was the saying that
your ex said to you about you in regards to money?
Because it applies to me too, and I always think
about it except now, which I forgot. Wait when he
said someday you're going to thank me for this? Oh no,

(20:48):
not that one. Uh oh, there's only two quotes. I
can remember that one and um, your your penny smart
and dollar foolish or is it the other way around?
So know how to save We like bargains, like we'll
go to Target or go to somewhere, but w end
up spending so much money there that you could have
spent into something else. It was in regards to this conversation,

(21:10):
and you said, right, is that it? Yeah, you're a
penny smart, dollar foolish. I think so that's me too.
We have to stop talking about money now. I'm getting
anxiety break. I like breaks. Okay, So when we come back,
we're going to interview Stephanie Beacham, who played Iris McKay um.

(21:31):
Of course you know her from well she worked with
Jason on Sister Kate, and she was on Dynasty The
Colby's and we're super excited to see her again. Okay,

(21:51):
we are very, very honored and excited to be talking
to Stephanie Beacham right now. As you know, played Iris
McKay Dylan's cucko Mama free spirited. So excited to see
you again. Oh, it's wonderful. It's wonderful. I mean, it's

(22:13):
been far too long. I know, of course, story what
I really think of is you and you're twelve in
truth Beverly Hill. I know, it'sn't that crazy that we
got to semi work together two times, even though we
never were really like in major scenes in either in
Troo Beverly Hills or nine or two and now Donning.
I observed you behaving so beautifully when you were over

(22:40):
hot in Santa Monica Park or something like that, and
and you were so hot and you were asking for
no privileges and you were just one of the team,
and I thought, that girl is fabulous. Thank you. You've
always been so amazing. That day that a couple of
days it was like over a hundred degrees. People were

(23:03):
passing out like crazy. It was it was hard. I
thought you were very very cool. Well, besides that, my
dad loved you so much. Obviously, he worked with you
time and time again because he thought you were so
amazing and so kind, so special, and he basically changed

(23:24):
my life. M hm he really did. I mean I
was a divorcee with I mean I was successful. He
just changed my life. He turned it into chechnica. Mm hm.
So your first job on television was with Aaron Spelling,

(23:45):
because I know you trained at RATA and you did
a lot of me me. My first job, what I
think that television was in black and white. I played Mary,
Queen of Scott's. Uh you know that did historical drama
and stuff like that. Can we talk about Dynasty and

(24:06):
the Colby's before nine o two and olm, I just said,
I have to, yes, yes, okay, this is this is
what was really fun. Then I did Sister Kate, which
was when I played a nun, which I just was
a good contrast to Table Colby. And Jason was my

(24:29):
eldest orphan in this orphanage that I read. And when
Luke needed a mom on nine o two one, oh,
it was Jason that said you need Beecham your lover.
And it was Jason who went to your daddy Tory,
and said, how about Beacham for Luke's mom. And that's

(24:52):
how it happened. I did not know that. I just
assumed because my dad loved working with you, that he
wanted to incorporate you. That's why. That's why it happened.
Because you didn't thus say no. He said, oh well wait,
and then of course I turned up with one of
the worst American accents ever, and so they decided that

(25:14):
I had to have come from Hawaii. Wait. They wanted
you to come from Hawaii so you could use your
real accent. No why, That's why I had a rather
strange American accent. For some reason, they just thought it
would work. Well, there we get I've never heard of
Hawaiian with funny accent. Everything comes full circle because this

(25:40):
isn't the reason Jason got the part. But I was
such a huge fan of Sister Kate. I was obsessed
with that show that when my dad was casting Beverly
Hills Now to know, I said, you have to look
at this guy, Jason Priestly. He's on my favorite sitcom,
Sister Kate. Oh, and of course he watched it and

(26:01):
my dad was like, oh and there's Sephany, Oh my gosh.
Like it was just yeah, so it all works together.
We were all meant to be together. Oh, I tell
you I missed the old days, don't you. I missed
your daddy. It will never be Yeah. It was definitely
a different way of making television that I don't think

(26:21):
will ever happen again. I was talking just that somebody
was asking me. I mean they do on a daily basis,
but somebody was asking me on the set today about it,
and I said, it was extraordinarily because it was like
being under contract to old Hollywood. Being under contract, how

(26:42):
you could borrow the clothes, you weren't to wear jeans,
those sort of things. You know. It was. It was
a very very wonderful, wonderful time. Um. And it had
its definite rules and they were easy to follow. So
did they breath knew on too Dynasty already knowing the

(27:02):
intention of doing a spinoff? Or was that first I
got cast as say, we'll call be married to Charlton Heston,
sister in law Barbara Stane, you know, in all the
most amazing cast, and we went to a party, Um, uh,

(27:24):
John Forsyth and Lynda Evans, you know, with with Crystal's Place,
and that's how we span off. That's how we started
the cold Oh my gosh, amazing. And can you talk
a little bit about the wardrobe because everyone talks about
the wardrobe from Dynasty and Colbies. Just to mention the

(27:48):
wardrobe and you think of Nolan Miller at six o'clock
in the morning or earlier if need be, on his
hands and knees inning ahem. He was so hands on,
that wonderful man, he really was. And he gave me

(28:10):
the great privilege of making a figure for me in
the workroom because he said, you don't change shape like
Elizabeth Taylor, you know you you stay the same shape,
so I can make you a figure. And therefore we
only had to have the original conversation about what it

(28:30):
should know, what it was needed for the scene, and
then the fitting. I mean that in itself was as
glamorous as could ever be. It's only the only thing
that was a down side of it was having new
shoes every day because they heard five inch new heels

(28:51):
sort of, and because when I met Linda Evans for
the first time, I thought, what on earth are you
doing wearing those fluffy slippers? Well, I was in fluffy
slippers in between takes. Very soon, I promised, Yes, we
love the fluffy slippers. Between takes. You had your own, Judy,
You had a figure your own. That's amazing. So when

(29:13):
I used to go because he was to me, he
was uncle Nolan, and I was fascinated with going to
his shop and he would let me come to the
shop when I was little, and he would take me
through all of the amazing iconic actresses and I would
see their figures, their duties and their names on it,
and I would just be obsessed and be like, this

(29:33):
is what I want to do when I grow up,
and just look at these beautiful figures and be like
I want to be an actress. And were all these
glamorous clothes? Um, But you guys definitely created fashion for
a decade, totally totally. And I can remember one Halloween
when the guys in West Hollywood, if they weren't Lynda

(29:57):
Revens and they weren't Joan Collins, they were say, we'll
cold the um because we were the most wonderfully done
up people on the planet, weren't we. I mean we
we The values that were put into that show were extraordinary.

(30:19):
I mean the materialistic values and the sets, for Heaven's sake,
I mean the true glab, true glab. The sets were amazing.
They were they were like my house growing up, but
they were but a real set, like the details that
ash trays were real, and just everything of such opulence.
It was an amazing Sorry to spend so much time

(30:40):
in this, but I know people are fascinated by Dynasty
and we're so excited to talk to you. Barbara's Stammack
said to me, don't ever eat the caveat And I said,
why not, It looks great. She said, no, it will
get into your teeth and your smile with black dots um.
But it was real. It was near or not real cavea.

(31:03):
I mean, it was extraordinary, wasn't it. Oh my gosh,
real Cavia. And I feel like on Dynasty, like nowadays,
wigs are back in and everyone's wearing a wig instead
of doing their hair over and over again. I remember
visiting the sets and Linda and Joan had wigs. I
would visit their makeup room and I'd be like, oh
my gosh, that was new to me. I didn't understand,

(31:25):
and did you wear it was all bone hair? Wow,
where did you go on? Where did it go on? Um?
That was all my own hair. And Barbara Ronsey was
the hairdresser and she I said, what am I going
to look like today, Barbara? And she said, I don't know.
I haven't felt it yet, but just create amazements. No,

(31:49):
it was, it was. It was pretty dawn special. But
come on, goes, what about n O two one? Let's
talk about it? And I kid, what a very different character.
Forget about that. I just remember laughing so hard when
I came into the makeup room one morning and there
you all were fast asleep in the makeup trade and

(32:12):
the makeup jos passed out while they were doing our makeup.
Of course, we were growing teens. We we needed our sleep.
You were you were fabulous creatures. You were you were,
You were a terrific bunch of an amazing energy. Thank you.

(32:35):
Oh my gosh. Well it's because of Gus stars like
you that our show was so successful and um, you know,
such a memorable was because we were just it was
really it wasn't it. It was a brilliant idea. It
was terribly clever and it worked. Incredibly Well, it really did.
It was a lovely show. Yes, Iris brought so much,

(32:58):
so many complications I think to Dylan's character and made
his character so much um juicy or deeper more meaningful. Well,
you're you're very sweet. But I think that amazing actor
Luke could do anything that he wanted. He was he

(33:20):
is a I mean, that's a great actor. What what
is your favorite memory of working with Luke? With Luke? Oh,
actually my favorite memory is Luke and Jason singing Tom
Jones songs in the in the makeup room. Gave me

(33:40):
a whole Tom Jones concert in the makeup room. That
brings it all back. I remember that, Yes, yes, just
the sweetness it because the off time is just as
important in a day's work, isn't it as as the

(34:01):
work on screen, because that's what gives the atmosphere. And
when you've got people who are really lovely to work with,
um and lovely to be around, well that just makes
the blitz, doesn't it. Yeah, the connection show on screen,
the energy between the people. Definitely, and you guys definitely

(34:21):
had that. Yes, we did. Actually, I both my boys,
my boys um uh loved dear Um. You studied early
on to be a mind do you is that something
that you used? The mind thing was pretty magic. It

(34:43):
was in Paris and I was no pair at the
same time and doing this mind thing and it was
terribly serious mind and did these fearsome exercises. I mean,
I can dislocate all the parts of my body because
of these exercises. We're not displ kate, but isolate. Yes,
that's it. No shoulder movement. Wow, maybe we have a future.

(35:08):
Maybe we could be mine. Stephanie. We gotta get you
on TikTok. Yes, that would be I'd do a good tire,
you would, Stephanie. Before we go, what you said you're
working today, UM on a project. Can you share with
us what it is? Okay, it's a really funny, really

(35:30):
exciting adventure film UM called Renegades. But I'm a policewoman
who is trying to solve things and I have a
very small and fun little part. It's like it's like
fifteen people have got fabulous parts, you know what I mean.
It's one of those it's so interesting. Sorry. Before we go,

(35:52):
we always ask our guests would you be Team Brandon
or Team Dylan? And that's a hard one. For you
to answer because we're so close to old of them.
I'm sorry, blood comes first, it's teamed Okay, thank you
so much for taking the time to talk with us.
Oh you're so sweet. It's such a pleasure to see

(36:12):
you too. Thank you, Stephanie, thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you. We love you. M h Okay, guys, let's
get into fashion, shall we. This episode had a couple

(36:36):
of good fashion moments, and you think it did. I
gotta say, I was really into my floral dress that
I wore in one of the stock market classroom scenes
because remember NBH nine two O Darren Martin, our biggest fan,
have that dress and and is it blocked back? Marbert,
he keeps everything as it blocked back. It was very professional.

(36:59):
It was very weird. He brought you a baggy with
a dress in it, and I was like, weird, weird. No,
but that's the dress he brought you. That's that's the
dress that he brought to the set that day. I remember.
He's also like an uber collector, you guys. He has
a whole room dedicated to nine O two and oh,
and he has brilliant pieces from over the years. So

(37:22):
he does keep everything like, uh, labeled and done. So
he brought it and I was super nervous because I
was like, I'm not gonna be able to fit into that.
But thank you spanks for spanks. Later, I got into it, right, Jen,
you did. I don't know how many pairs of snakes
you had on that day, but you got into it.
You had to help me pee, I think at some
point in the trailer, because when you got a pee,
it's really hard to get spanks off. Wait, are you

(37:44):
being serious? Do you really put that many on? Jen?
Am I missing? She does? No? What's the most what's
the most amount of spanks you Warren? For an outfit? Jen,
I'm gonna go on record with three, Jennifer eve is
that you know? I hate odd numbers? Oh? Okay four four?

(38:08):
She went with four. We're round up. It was four four.
I don't know how you get the spanks on with
your nails, Like it's treacherous and you don't do you like,
poke right through them with those things? Okay? So here, okay,
so no, I can get them on and off. It
takes a while. It's no easy feat. But I don't

(38:30):
know if you guys have tried skims by Kim Kardashian.
They're really really good, but she doesn't make a pea
hole in them, And you've got to have the p
hole because spanks are so tight that sometimes you can't
get them off. But it's nice when it has that
little hole, so then it's just a it's just a well,

(38:51):
it's yeah, it's four of the same spanks that all
have holes, so then you could. But all of spanks
now make with holes in them for easy p um
and skims do not. I love them. They're super good,
but they don't have a pee hole. And I tried

(39:11):
once to cut a pe hole into it and the
whole thing went to put No, I am talking about
pe holes. This is I don't know the Family show.
When this is a useful hack for women out there.
Don't try to cut your own pe hole. You will
ruin your undergarments. Okay, anyway, back to favorite fashion moment um.

(39:35):
One of mine was Andrea's floral shirt, and I loved
it because my mom has a couch in that seem
floral pattern still to this day. That is amazing. That's amazing.
I loved that shirt. Sis, did you have a favorite

(39:56):
fashion moment um? Not necessarily a favorite, but I'm really
needing Cindy to step up her game a little bit
with her outfits because the striped collared shirt thing she
was wearing one of the scenes, I'm just like, she's
so beautiful, let's like dress her better. And the jeans
with the bell does not. It's not the best look.

(40:18):
I know. No oh I. She was so nice to
Iris in this episode, so it kind of it wasn't
cute that they were hanging out and she was kind
of like going with her vibe and you know, trying
new things. Wait, I want to ask you, guys, what
is a mind jim? Have you ever been to a
mind gym? Because in this episode, Iris take Cindy to
a mind Jim in Beverly Hills, and I don't. I've

(40:41):
never been to such a thing. It's so funny. I
was about to say the same thing, but I couldn't
remember the name. I was going to call it a
chill bar because I loved the bar set up and
it was so like the glowing lights and glass Um, no,
we should do that and drink garlic drinks. It looked
like a real boring place to go. I gotta tell you,

(41:05):
is it because like a place you go and meditate
and drink tea or the evolution of that nowadays would
be like an oxygen bar, right, or like a meditation um,
you know, like the den. They have that meditation center
here in l A. You can go and meditate. M
where you go float? Have you gone to float? I

(41:25):
have never floated in a in a tank? What's that called?
I thought? Tank? Yeah? Right, I did it. I did
it one thing. I think you would go as nuts
as I went because I couldn't shut my brain off.
I had the million one checklist and I was just like, okay,
so now couldn't in your trapped in like a tank

(41:47):
of water? Yeah, I think I might have gotten seasick.
They always have any times in the middle of the mall.
It seems weird to do it tanks. Yeah, I've seen that.
Oh my god. I was gonna say, that's like getting
a chair massage in them and all of them all,
but I stopped myself. Do you do that? I do that?

(42:08):
She's pointing at me. I will get a massage wherever
someone will give me a massage. I love getting a
massage at the mall. Like I'm down for that. I
know I would get a massage in the grocery store
if they would offer that. I mean, I'm all for
those a little tie like massage places where you just
like can walk into welcome as long as they have

(42:29):
a sign up that says no happy endings. But in
the mall, I would think you, of all people would
be worried that you could private or like, you know,
like someone. But once you're once you're there, like in
the saddle with your face in the thing, nobody knows
who's there. Nobody sees what you're looking like. It's only

(42:50):
when you get out and then you have like the
paper stuck to your face, or you have like an
imprint of the round thing and you're you're going on
down to bed Beth and beyond or whatever to get
your shopping done. It's a little weird, you know. It
said like, have all your shopping bags near your massage chair.
You don't want to make you steal it with your

(43:11):
feet a little bit exactly. Note to anyone in l
A when you were in a mall, check out those
chairs because you never know who might be faced down
in them. It might be Jenny Garden. It's a great deal.
It is I want to go today. Let's go get
one today. Minutes in. Well, I have the best line

(43:34):
from the episode I was watching. When I was watching it,
it didn't it wasn't in the episode, but when my
husband walked through the room and I was watching it,
he goes, why is Brenda wearing a tie? I love
that favorite line? Uh Brandon saying you'll get used to it. Pal.

(43:57):
Is it the word pal that? Yeah? I was hey,
pal like I don't know, I was pal a lot.
It's an old school term. My dad used to say pal.
But it was weird to see a teenage boy saying
pal to his best friend. I don't know. Mine is
from Kelly Brenn. You can love him, but you can't

(44:18):
save him, true dad. Yeah, she was kind of tough
love on that whole telling Brenda how to hang out
with what you know, how to deal with Dylan. Oh,
I'm surprised you didn't love the scene where she told
Jim Walsh that he could mellow out, go somewhere, grow

(44:39):
a beard, swim naked. I'm sure you got all hot
and bothered with that scene, didn't you. I did not
get hot and bothered, No, but I did. Now that
I'm thinking about Jim. I did like his um, his
leisure suit at the dinner table. I love a man

(44:59):
in a eat your suit. We have to get James
ecass On here. We have to is this infatuation um
recent or did you feel this way when you were
actually filming with him at the time. It's a teenager. No,
this is just as a fan watching the show back.
I have daddy issues. Hey, sis, do we have any

(45:23):
questions from listeners? We sure do. Okay, so let's get
to Erica's She's asking, did your significant others ever get
jealous or annoyed with your relationships with castmates male or female?
M that's a good because you guys had a tight bond,
you know, like even if it wasn't you know, you

(45:44):
guys didn't were like a love connection on the show.
But like since your first husband, feel about the wedding
gift that Lukes sent, we send me said a huge smile.
What is it believe you're bringing this up? Okay? So
I got married when I was twenty one, wow, And

(46:05):
we had a beautiful wedding in Beverly Hills. And Luke
couldn't come to the wedding, but he did send a gift,
and he sent a breadmaker. And the only reason he
sent a bread maker was because it was called Mr Loaf.
I don't get it. He wasn't a fan of her

(46:27):
first husband. He he felt that the title said it
all got it? No card, no card, just Mr Loaf.
How did he feel? He didn't know, He had no
idea that he didn't make the connection. He didn't. He
didn't know it all. Only I knew you might have

(46:49):
gotten mad at the time, but secretly you were laughing.
Oh yeah, definitely. I don't think I got mad at
the time either. I think I was just laughing because
it's like a like your brother, would you know, like
say something about your your boyfriend and your husband or whatever?
But I don't. Oh please, you want to hear another

(47:10):
joke he said about I don't even know if it
was more my husband or or boyfriend. I don't know
what it was. Oh yeah, so and so is having
friends over friends over tonight. Ten friends. He hasn't seen
it in a while. His toes that was about the same. Yeah,

(47:32):
I guess that thought he meant. I don't know, he
felt like my husband had a big tummy or something. Yeah,
I think he's not even a beer gut at the time,
because I think he was jelly probably, Yeah, sounds it. Yeah,
we were all really close, so for me, it was

(47:53):
always just a matter of managing that, especially with the
male co stars, because I always just had to say,
they're like brothers. You know, these are like my brothers,
and you're going to have to deal with it. You're
gonna have to get over if you have any issue
with it, because we're really close and we have to
be and you don't need to be threatened by them.
But they watch the episodes, Um, yeah, I don't remember

(48:19):
ever sitting down and watching an episode with an X
that was like, you know, Kelly making out with somebody.
I know now when Dave watches episodes back with me
and he sees Kelly being sassy or like sexy or
kissing some guy, he just makes a big joke out
of it, like he laughs at it and get but
he does. You can tell he gets a little bit
like stirred up inside and he deals with it with humor. Yeah,

(48:43):
that's like a clear sign. Um. There's like a running
theme of Luke not liking our exes. Because Luke hated
one of my ex is rightfully, so everyone did. But anyway,
at my parents Christmas Eve party, Luke punch my ex
boyfriend and that was really uncomfortable because I lived with

(49:05):
them and he was like it was a whole big deal.
And then I had to go to set and it
was really hard because Luke was really upset and we
didn't talk for six months outside of filming. That's crazy
to not talk to somebody outside of film, mean, did
that happen more than once with any other I was mad,

(49:26):
but not mad, like I knew it was right because
he was supporting Later I saw that he was protecting me.
But at the time, when you're in the relationship and
you're the one that's getting yelled at it at home,
like why are your friends so mean to me? Like
you have to deal with that on both sides. So
I was like really mad at Luke um. But yeah,
he was right. He was always right. He was just

(49:48):
so protective of us, and hindsight, it's so nice. We
had such great brothers, you know, totally Okay mc nsy
is asking. Tori has openly talked about how she and
Jason had a summer romance. Was it taking place during
the filming of these specific episodes problems that she just

(50:13):
has her head in her and did it ever cause
problems on set? Especially with Brian. Literally, if you guys
could see right now, Tori is hiding from this, hide
from the question. The microphone is right there. We can
still hear you. Did hear me go? Yeah? But when

(50:35):
did you openly talk about summer? Was it in a book? No?
It was on It was on a show called Celebrity
Lie Detector. I couldn't lie. You could have lied and
then they would have like guessed that it was true,

(50:56):
and then you would have won. I screwed up. I
wasn't thinking clearly, and I panicked and I said it
and and then it was everywhere and whatever. Anyway, Okay,
so tell us what did you say? I remember, Jen,
when was it? It was? Brian didn't care because by then, Brian,

(51:18):
Brian I were a thing of the past. Now it
was like, after looking at me, I'm like, I don't remember.
It was the summer between season seven and eight and
season seven and eight. I don't know why that comes
to mind. I don't know as deep. I'm not sure
if it was then, but it was deep into this.
I had brown hair, I go by hair colors during

(51:40):
the whole filming, and now I go by when I
had kids, back in my twenties and teens, I went
by hair colors on the TV show I had ter college,
so it was after college. Yes, yes, why did I
well either block this from my memory or never knew
about this? Was it secret of at the time? He

(52:02):
is sneaking around? I haven't you. You can't tell people
to I was scared to tell you. Oh my god,
you learn something new everyday. People. This juicy. We'll give
us some more. Deed, No, she doesn't want to talk

(52:22):
about it, that's all you said on that show. We're
not going to make you elaborate on it if you
don't want to, but we would really like to hear
the details. It didn't cause any problems, and we've all
remained really super close friends. You all right, do you
want to talk about any of your secret romances? Jenny Um.
I don't think the question was geared towards me. McKenzie

(52:44):
specifically asked Tori you question, and I don't think I'm
in a comment on that any further. Well, I think
that's going to do it for this episode. Ladies. Yes,
thank you, so much. Everybody out there, UM, text me
after where do you guys? I'll tell you all the details.
I'm just kidding, my goodness. I love you guys. Oh. Next,

(53:05):
We'll have a great week. Next episode, Season two, episode eleven,
Leading from the Heart. Be there or be Square.