Lucky Star (S1, E21 “Spring Dance”)

Let’s Dance!

It’s time for the Spring Dance.

Tori and Jennie are joined by the creator of the show Darren Star.

Darren created Beverly Hills 90210 with Tori’s dad Aaron.

Tori and Jennie take the opportunity to share all the memories and of course they ask about Melrose, Sex and the City, and Emily in Paris.

Plus, Tori and Jennie have a big announcement.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello everybody, welcome
to another episode of nine O two one O m G.
It's me Jenny Garth. I'm here with my bestie Tory
Spelling and hello everyon. Hello by ladies. What a show

(00:27):
we have today, you guys, I'm not I'm really really excited,
uh A to talk about this episode from this week
and be we have a super special guest. And before
before we get to that, let's talk about the exciting
thing that's going to come up soon. We have our
next live event. You guys. You know we've been talking.

(00:51):
We're almost done with season one and it's crazy and
we feel like we should celebrate. We should have a
rat party, because that's what you do when you finish
the season of a show. So we're gonna just bring
it into the podcast world. We're gonna have a season
one rat party, and we're gonna do it live on
April at five pm. That's five pm Pacific Standard time,

(01:12):
which will be eight p m Eastern Standard time. Tickets
are available at on location live dot com slash nine
O two one zero M and there will be meet
and greets, uh surprise guests They're a surprise to even us.
I have no idea who it's going to be excited.
They're gonna be games and fun and probably some technical

(01:35):
difficulties and it'll just be a lot of fun. We
like games. So please join us, you guys. Tickets are
on sale right now. Don't forget to get your merch.
You can buy that at my fan threads dot com
slash nine oh two one O MG, Oh my gosh,

(01:55):
you guys, I got the Donna Kelly t shirt. Did
you get you got it? Ok? Maybe we should wear
those to the to our rat party we have to
Maybe could be dazzle them or perfect. Yeah, they're so good.
The cuts good. Uh, it's super soft. I'm obsessed with it. Yeah.
Well that's really good. Fight. I'm gonna add ansis. I

(02:21):
told you guys before today we have a very very
special guest joining us. Uh, the one and only Darren
Starr is going to be coming on in a little
bit to talk to us about the origination of Beverly
Hills nine O two and oh. He's the creator of
our show. And I don't know, I kind of feel

(02:41):
like God is coming su Yeah, I'm nervous. Yeah, he's
our creator. He's he's our he's the big boss and ancho.
Oh my gosh. Without him, this show would not exist.
And of course, you know he went on to do
melrose Place, created that and Sex in the City and
Younger and now Emily and Paris. He is a god

(03:04):
amongst god's and we're super psychees coming on to be
with us today. We haven't seen him in so long?
How long has it been to be so fun? Oh? Years?
I really I saw him on a pot Did you
see him on your podcast? I saw him on a
podcast account. Yeah, I saw him on the computer. That
does not it doesn't count, right, that's not jen. Do

(03:27):
we look okay, I'm nervous. Wait were you guys nervous
around him? Like? What are easy to you? Like? Do
you feel like you owe him your career? Like what
are those feelings that you have? I don't know. I
feel like, yeah, there's some of that. Like he was
such a he was the reason why this show came

(03:47):
to life. You know, he created these characters and he
created everything about it. So you know, him and Aaron
together worked together to make this what it is. And
it's I don't know, it's like it's like you're it's
like your boss. I can't even explain it any other way.
I was always really I know you had like a
really good relationship with him, and you went on to
do another show with him afterwards, Like I was always

(04:10):
really shy around him. So I'm nervous to talk to
him today because I always felt and I'm still feeling it, like,
you know, he created the show, but he worked with
my dad, and I always felt like, did he feel
like he had to cast me? He had to write
for me? I mean, he gave me some of my
best comedy. I mean he started off my comedy in
Spring Dance, which he also not only did he create

(04:30):
the show, but he wrote this episode. He directed it,
and he gave don a kind of her first like
big dance stuff with the spring, you know dress. So
I'm very grateful for him doing that, But I don't know,
I just always felt like he was like, oh my god,
some people I cast, didn't you suggest some people to
cast for None on two? And no I did. I

(04:52):
feel like if you didn't want to cast you, he
would have, you know what I mean, Like you had
a big part of all of this. I'm sure it
is you know he had to, Like, as we've talked
about and we've seen, I had like a couple of
lines here and there in the first few episodes, and
it's just now kind of getting a little bit bigger,
um my role. But you know how you feel that way,

(05:13):
it's it's your boss. I wanted to please him. I
wanted him to say, like, Okay, I know why I
had to cast her, but I wanted to him to
be proud of me and approve of me. And you know,
it's like a parent type of thing. I think he
is proud of you. Yeah, I think he's proud of
all of us. And I love it that you can
tell he's still really proud of Beverly Hills nine o

(05:35):
two and oh you know, he's gone on to do
such huge things like Sex in the City, and he's
still like this show just like for us, it has
this amazing little part of our hearts that can never
be taken away. And I feel that from him too,
like that connection. So we're really looking forward to talk
to him. So should we Should we talk about episode

(05:57):
twenty one Spring Dance? He is Okay? Episode twenty one
Spring Dance air date was May second. Synopsis is it's
the big Spring Dance, and the chance of romance is
good for Dylan and Brenda, possible for Kelly and Brandon
and nil nil and nil zip zero for Steve, who

(06:21):
carries a torch that's about as cumbersome as his dates dress.
That's me. This episode was actually written by Darren Starr
and directed by Darren Starr. This was his first directing
job ever. Wow, big undertaking for your first job directing,

(06:41):
Like it was like a huge like so many casts,
so many background players. We had a band who was
this huge, huge race, The Rave Ups was the band
at the dance. They were rad they were I was
kind of had a crush on that lead singer Guy
High knew Year going to say that musicians, I can't

(07:03):
help it. I don't know. She used to love musicians.
Now she loves golfers. You know. I didn't realize. I
didn't realize that he directed this until we got our notes,
And now it really makes sense because I was just
this is my favorite episode so far, Like you could
tell the difference that's saying, didn't you feel like it

(07:24):
felt like a a big movie, like a nineties rom com,
like maybe like a six Yeah, exactly use film. That's
what it felt like to me too. It really did.
Especially you're dancing. You're dancing at the dance. It was

(07:44):
so good. I thought it was really good too. I
was crushing on her like that was not good dancing. Yeah,
we're swinging your Oh my god, all the fields of
like that's the popular girl. I want to be like
like three years that would be weird, but you know
what I mean. But I pulled it off. Thank goodness

(08:04):
you did. Yeah, this episode so much happened. It was
hugely memorable episode for all the fans, I think, and
when it was one of the episodes, it was kind
of like a defining uh moment, defining episode for the
show moving forward, and I felt like it just defined
what the group was all about, like what you know,

(08:27):
everybody had their things, but we all came together and
I don't know, it just it worked for me, just
like a little puzzle. Yeah, they were definitely an ensemble
by the end. By this episode, I was like, Oh,
this is the gang that we're gonna now go forward
with for the next few years, So why don't we
break it down from the beginning because I loved I'd
love to do that much. I got to start at

(08:48):
the top and I gotta go all the way through
over all my o MG moments. First of all, first,
first first thing that comes to mind is the uh,
the glasses that the guys were wearing in the hallway
when they saw the hot girls. First of all, seems
so horny. He's got like it does spring bring that

(09:10):
on a teen boy? It makes them especially Randy. Uh hut,
Nature's doing this thing. It's turning me into a total
dog you. I don't know. I just don't wanna think
about that. But it was kind of the theme of
the episode because obviously we know happens with Dylan and Brenda.

(09:31):
Love is in the air spring um. But speaking of
the glasses, so they were looking at Darla Diller, who
was played by Sharon Case who had on two episodes ago.
She was so hot in us, like I know, she
was like that unattainable beautiful girl. It's still hot, yeah,
of course, yeah she is. But that I was happy

(09:53):
to see that because I didn't know when I didn't
know when she came back for the second episode, is
Darla Dillar what that was going to be like? But
she she did Darla right yes, Um, I don't do vets. Sorry,
I don't do vets. Loved it. That's like the soul
crushing for Steve Sanders to hear something like that. Probably

(10:13):
always like anything, it's okay, I'll rent a Ferrari or
somebody was like, dag you Yeah, that's an ad lib
for sure. The thing that took me, I mean just
hearing Brian's voice when he's announcing the queens that are

(10:36):
the prince princesses. Right, his voice seemed even higher in
other episodes. I was like, oh my gosh, and you
could hear everyone laughing in the hallways. Well David, well
he had he had some great stuff in this episode too.

(10:57):
But yeah, the whole um nominations for the Spring Princess
or whatever. Um, Kelly got very excited when she got nominated.
I threw my I threw my notebook like that's how
excited I did throw it. And when I was watching,

(11:18):
I was like, oh jeez, I like that. Donna and
Brenda were supportive. I noticed that right away. There was
really kind of no jealousy of you being nominated per
se until the dress part. That was good. Yeah, take
us to the Rodeo collection. Oh, my gosh, did they
even call it that? Now? That is a actual place

(11:41):
on Rodeo and you would go in and they'd have
many different stores, which kind of Beverly Hills version of
a mini mall or call out dormal. Yeah. Yeah, I
think it's still still there Rodeo Collection now but it's
definitely on road drive open Monday do Sunday nine am

(12:02):
to six pm. There you got, come on in, let's
do it shopping. Okay, Wait, I gotta tell you something
which I never realized I just recently. I'm gonna go
I'm going to talk about the white black bow dress
that um Brenda and Kelly end up both wearing. But
did you know this fun fact I recently rewatched Mystic

(12:25):
Pizza and Julia Roberts in that movie, do you know
what I'm talking about? She's wearing that dress. And that's
a movie from the eighties I believe, or was it
early nineties. She comes down, she goes and she buys
a dress, leaves the tag on so she can return
it to go out on her date. She comes down
the stairs wearing it. So not only is that dress

(12:45):
iconic on you and Shannon, Julia Roberts as well released
in so three years before it was you're our mathematician,
good three years. Maybe that's why it was on sale
when you guys bought it. Actually good fact checking from

(13:08):
the riders there. But that dress has been I mean,
I just that's a moment that will never be forgotten
I think by me for sure and a lot of
the fans because that when they show up in the
same dress, and I love that um Brenda sort of
makes it her own with her gloves and her pearls,
and I just thought and their hair, everything about it

(13:31):
like was prom esque. But it wasn't the prom It
was just a dance. I felt like promo. It seemed
like prom vegetable corsage? Hello the Radish? Why tell us
some more about that? What the heck was the boutineer
thing that Kelly gave Brandon? Why you guys who? She

(13:54):
was like, oh, vegetable corsages are really in, but it's
a boot near And she did say corsage corsage is
what goes on? Is it? Vegetable corsages are very hip?
Was that like a thing? Maybe they were like we
were setting trends, so they were like, Okay, let's see
if people will actually pick up, and apparently that was

(14:14):
one that didn't take off. I really thought it was
kind of cute, but very strange, you know what. I
can remember. I can remember putting that on him, and
I can remember filming with that stupid bunch of vegetables
on his jacket, and we had to have so many
because it just kept wilting like it was. They had

(14:35):
like personally behind it, and then like like three radishes
clumped together and the whole thing just kept going blue.
Vegetables don't want to be worn on clothes, So it's
kind of chic. It's very farm to Talks. I like it.
Let's bring it back farm to Tuck. That scene when

(14:55):
Kelly arrives at Brandon's house to give him, you know,
she's putting the boot near on him him and then
you guys kiss, I screamed like Kelly just went like
like no, he had no choice in the matter. Yeah.
It literally made me scream. I was like, what about
the what about when they made out on the later Yeah,
we're not even there yet. I'm sorry, but he got

(15:18):
very handsy with you at the wallsh house like that.
That was very Jason, was very Jason and Jenny. Yeah,
he had his arms around you, like very comfortable. It
was like very familiar, just asked you out. Yeah, and um,
I thought it was funny when Brenda said, when I'm
already giving you all my favorite lines, sorry, but Brenda
says no. Kelly says Brenda, I'm a spring princess. And

(15:40):
Brenda says, Kelly, I don't give a damn frink Kelly,
I don't. It's so good. Oh my god, Brenda's cheeks
were on points, like her cheekbones, gorgeous, youth good. Yeah,
we all appreciate what we had back then. So then

(16:03):
what about my dress? Oh, you come in the door
and there's the dress. There's the jo g Red dress
that we actually made a copy of right for Bho
And I was like, there it is, there's the dress.
There it is. I wonder where that came from, Like
was that in the script or we should ask Darren

(16:24):
about the dress? Okay, Like I wonder where that inspiration?
Like she can't fit into a dress, like it's too big.
I mean it was. It was. It was like gone
with the Wind situation exactly. But your character was really
funny this episode. I finally got to do comedy. I
was like, yes, okay, this was like gone, this big
moment of like doing physical comedy, and I couldn't have

(16:46):
been happier to given that writing. Yeah, I mean it
was weird that you were going with Steve, but I
just really thoroughly enjoyed all of the points when you
were like I can't and then you're like, can't quite
get the dress. Sit down, You're not comfortable. It's so
cute your little face. I remember filming that in the
limo and I was just in my head still like

(17:08):
you know me, like very like I hope it's not
too much. I hope they're not like, oh this girl,
what's she doing again? Like making all these movements, still
questioning myself but on the outside acting like no, I'm funny,
like whatever, I got this, but like thing myself inside,
you know. Wait, and Kelly stuck up for Donna right
before Steve's like, I hope she knows it's platonic, and

(17:29):
you're like you as if, Yeah, thanks for staying your dreams. Yeah,
Like why was Steve so like Donna such a sed
He was a j but he had reasons. He had
a lot of reasons to be jerky. Yeah, it's confession

(17:49):
about being adopted. Yes, Steve's adopted. Nowhere back to one
more thing before that part. Okay, I don't even know
how to say this because it's so un PC. But
when we're all in the house and we're taking the
lineup photo of all of us, like our prom ish dates,

(18:10):
I think it's Brandon. Is it okay to repeat something
if it's a line that's not PC though, to say, yeah,
you got your podcast? I don't want to be the
one to say it. But it's like we said, everybody
fit around the dress, and Brandon says, I think was
it Brandon or was it Steve that said it? I
think she's hiding an an rvy of midgets under there.

(18:33):
No one said that, No one said that, Yes it
was said. You know what it was? Said? Who said that?
Because you know that was not written. That was an
ad lib, but they kept it. It was totally an ablett.
Do you know who said it? I couldn't hear whose
voice it was. I was just so shocked when I
watched it. It sounds like a Steve line, but I

(18:56):
feel like I feel like it was Brandon. So they
go to the dance. They go to the dance, and
all Dylan wants to do is get Brenda up in
that bedroom to get freaky, and uh, he's I love you.
He when he said I love you Brenda. Maybe he
said I love you Brenda back at the at the house,

(19:17):
I don't remember. No, it was at right when they
get there. I think he's like, don't you know I
love I love you Brend. You're not just another notch
on my belt. Yeah I didn't feel it, sorry, not
just in another notch on my belt? Like, who says that?
Did you guys feel you felt it? I know? But
I mean I was a sucker for Dylan from the

(19:37):
very beginning. So yeah, but I feel like you're you sis.
You are a die hard Brenda and Dylan fan. I
can feel it a little bit. Mmm, just from the
very beginning. That's okay. I don't want to give it
away from people who haven't seen it yet, but you know,
it gets it gets dicey later, it does. Okay. Okay, Now,

(19:59):
now we can't go to your kiss with Brandon. No, no,
not yet, not yet. First we have to talk about
when he said, um, when she says, I'm nervous, I'm
going to disappoint you. And then and then um um,
Dylan says something like it don't worry, We're gonna be
just two people up in the room enjoying each other.
And I was like, who enjoying each other? Like it

(20:22):
wasn't I don't know, Yah, there will be no judgments
or something, just enjoying or something. Am I the only
one that was into this so into it? I was like, yes,
I believe everything you say. Let's go upstairs. I don't
remember it that way, like I feel like I was
way into it when I watched it when I was young,
and now watching it, I don't know. I wasn't. I

(20:45):
got into I got more into it once they got
into the room, like I was like, okay, I bee.
Their chemistry was more than like some of the lines
he was saying didn't feel like the Dylan. I know.
We're not haters. The name of this podcast is o MG,
and these are just O m G moments for us.

(21:08):
Just portrayed the fantasy that every high school girl has
if they're in a relationship and they haven't done it yet.
That's how they envisioned losing their virginity, Like on A
I did and I lost my virginity at homecoming. After
the dance was at someone's house, not a hotel. But
it was almost just to have that perfect I don't know,

(21:32):
it's just the dance really justified it for me. I
feel so much closer to you now that I know
where you lost your virginity. Thanks for sharing. Yeah, but
I think it was a big issue for the network
at the time to show a sixteen something you're all
losing her virginity. I think they got a lot of
heat after. Yeah, I mean they had to have yeah,

(21:54):
even though it didn't show much, but it didn't show anything.
But at the time, like under your age, sex was
not something you really saw on TV. Right, No, okay,
but yeah, if do you have something to say about
the kiss of Kelly and Brandon, because oh, yeah, I do.
It was your first experience of him eating your face.

(22:17):
That was the first kiss of Kelly and Brandon. I know, Yeah,
you're ready for it. It looked like a good kiss,
so I'm not gonna lie. I was into it too.
I was really into it. Sorry, more into watching that
juicy kiss than Brendan Dylan. Sorry. It just looked like
there was just so much chemistry. I enjoyed it too,

(22:41):
really did, or maybe the whole rest of the scene
it was. I loved that it wasn't TV like, it
was real life, Like your lipstick was totally gone. How
you've been mashing face? And I was like, oh, I
love that, because sometimes they glossified in TV and they
would cut back and need to have pur clipstick and
powder and you weren't you go one at it? How

(23:06):
many takes did you guys do with that scene at
the dance? Who knows? I mean, geez, I don't remember,
but I know it was a good kiss. I mean
enough for your lipstick to come off. Not just her
lipsticks this it was like all around here. It was
like her nose, her cheeks. That's just what happens when

(23:29):
you make out on camera usually because you're wearing a
lot of makeup right for TV, and then and then
you do a kissing scene like that and it gets everywhere.
And also usually a guy has like stubble, like beard stubble,
and it makes your face all red and rashy. It's
not it's not pretty, it's not fun. The actual technical

(23:52):
aspect of it, it was good. Yeah, And then he
said you were like another sister. Oh, I don't think
he'll think that seasons to come right? What did she say?
Can't can't you fake amnische or something? Poor Kelly. I
like it that she got denied a little bit though.
I made her more human to me. I think so too,

(24:12):
and relatable to a lot of people because I think
like when some a boy doesn't like you back, you
want to try to convince them to and it's not
the move. I like you said, ouch, that's the ugliest thing,
and you want to say ugliest, ugliest. I love this
episode so much, such a good episode, you guys. And
my favorite part though, I love to hold the whole

(24:33):
dance and the band and just like all the extras
in the background atmosphere, people and just everything. But my
favorite favorite part was the very end when um the
camera pulls back and the group is dancing together. Just
was gave me all like the warm and fuzzy feels
of how how amazing that moment actually was in real
life to be standing there with that guy with those people,

(24:55):
and I just I sat there watching it last night
by myself, and I actually it shook me up quite
a bit because it was just one of those moments
where I really remember standing right next to Luke and
just just that connection was so strong at that point,
and it was just such a moment for me and

(25:18):
I was like, oh, I miss him. No, that was
an amazing scene. That's I'm sure the whole group there's
scenes we don't remember filming, Like I feel like that's
one of those scenes that we each remember and we'll
always remember because everyone we were each other's best friends
like that. You know, it wasn't what you just saw

(25:40):
on camera was real in real life. And that was
so huge. Yeah, and it had been a whole season already,
so your relationships just probably continued to build. Yeah, definitely
at that point for sure. It was just Also that's
the big you know, everybody, what does that always happen
at dance a school dance, when like a group of

(26:01):
people just kind of dances together and takes over little
dance floor. I don't know it. Yeah, it made me
feel like all those movies that we love, Like, I
don't know, I feel like that just happens in the movies.
And I loved Iron in this episode. Mm hmmm. We
really like Steve Sanders. You saw a softer side to him.

(26:22):
I thought he was so great in the scene with
Jason and they're in the hallway in the kitchen. Lighting
on Jason was so magical, Um, we found out I
was adopted, just such a nice moment. I feel like
he played it so well. He really had a balance
of emotion and comedy, Like, yeah, it really humanized all

(26:45):
the characters too, Like it just made them so much
more relatable, each of them. On Andrea h David with
his dancing, the comedy of the skirt, like just the
being the date of Steve and not really, I don't know,
it just felt Um, Andrea's the chainsaw, that was hilarious.

(27:10):
What about Okay, what about when she's watching it and
she doesn't she live with her grandma? Isn't that the
whole thing with her grandma? I was gonna ask you
because then she's like, Mom, can I borrow an evening gown? Yeah? Mom,
first of all, but then evening gown second of all?
She said, your evening gown? Like there's only one. Mom
has an evening gown up in the closet there and

(27:32):
it magically fits her perfectly with ginormous puff sleeves. Sound
the style though, those puffy sleeves and they were large
like and in charge. Those sleeves it fit her like
a glove. Well, ladies, Darren stars in the waiting room.
It's now, it's happening, it's happening. But we should take

(27:53):
a break. Okay, everybody's yeah, I can't wait. M h
Hello handsome, Hello, god, you guys are gorgeous. Why do

(28:13):
you get more and more handsome as you? Greatness? Boy
and boys get more handsome with age and us women
just you guys like you guys look amazing, you look amazing.
We're so excited to talk to you. I know me too.
I saw you, but for a second on that nine
O thing we did a while ago, I just gotta

(28:37):
I didn't have my glasses on. I couldn't see you. Sorry.
I loved, loved the show you did with Chessa and Alborghini.
Oh my gosh. I thought it was so good and
you guys were so good at it. I mean, everybody was.
It was like a blast. We had a great time
doing it. It was certainly a challenge. Oh my god.

(28:57):
Oh yeah, I didn't look like it didn't It looked
like it didn't look like a challenge. It look fun.
We'll get together and tell you the story, but I
couldn't even was shot in Canada that I don't know
how you pulled it looks so real. Really, why does
the beach scenes, no beach scenes stuff look pretty good?

(29:19):
It really all felt you would never know that was
crazy when they told me they was shot there. Remember
that day, Jen, they were like carting and like plants
and palm trees. Yeah, we were like, okay, it was
everything I thought. I thought the castle looked amazing. He's
all looks so good. It was so fun to be

(29:41):
back together with everyone, and we completely all regressed to
our younger selves within like moments. It was crazy old
behaviors kind of bubbling right back up. Every fun right,
I can imagine. But I thought, you I got you
nailed it. I thought, thank you. That means a lot

(30:01):
to us. Thank you. Yes, I just have to tell you.
I watch it with my kids, Emily and Paris is
so amazing. We love it. It's so fun to watch it. Really,
remember your Paris episode? What did you have to eat
when you went to Paris? Brains brains brains? Yeah, you're

(30:27):
all of your you know you You've created some of
the most iconic, most colorful like I don't know. The
shows that you make just sort of transport you to
like another time where things are just better and uh
easier like this. It's fantastic, you know. I love that
about your shows. Thank you well. Starting with the one

(30:50):
we all did together, I mean that was the o G.
That was your first first show with unbelievable. I don't
know if you don't even know the story that no
tell us. I can't remember exactly how We're so young,
Tory you Yeah, you were so young, you were like fifteen,
I think, Um, did you hear that Jen? I had

(31:16):
I had written some I had written a a number
of teenager in the movies. A producer I read a
film for when I was in my twenties went to
Fox to start work in drama, this guy Paul Stupid
and they were developing with Karen a show based on
Beverly Hills High for a writer, and they he thought

(31:38):
of me and he I met I met Dad at
the Old Old at the Old House, and we just clicked.
And he saw some film, this awful movie that I
made called Doing Time on Planet Earthing. Liked it. That
was terrible, and he's like, great, do it? And like
we just I just wrote the pilot and then I

(32:00):
don't know, at the beginning, it was just like me
and him. There was like it was so like it
was so um fun and I don't know, it was
just like one of those things where I thought, this
is so great. Does anybody realize how good this show is.
We made the pilot and I was like, this is amazing,
and and Fox was kind of like, well, we don't know.
And then it tested through the roof the pilot the

(32:23):
roof because they and they um teenagers could be actually successful.
And I think Tori recommended some actors. I remember that
we hadn't cast we had not cast, uh Jason's role,
And so the very last minute and I think you knew.
You mentioned that, you mentioned Shannon, you mentioned Jason. You

(32:45):
like you knew all these acts. It was such a
like a TV fan. Shannon I knew from our house,
and Heather's from and you came into read. Okay, Jenny,
you came in to read. I was so green that
you did this audition. And during the audition, like it
was it was that you waved and said a lot

(33:05):
of people and I thought you were waving at me.
She's in a character's doing the role. He wanted be
wigging out, like to be making this show with Aaron
Spelling and like testing through the roof, like I would
have been freaking out if I was you, like with
happiness to say he made it. He was not intimidating.

(33:27):
He made it really fun. He really was Your dad
was just so um he he was. He was very creative,
so it felt like working with somebody like creative and
or another writer, not like, uh, you know, the executive.
And he was what I loved this. He was always
so nervous about everything. And I would say, Tom, why
are you nervous going to the studio and pitching things?

(33:50):
I'm like, what do you miss about where spellings? He
would be like, I have spilkus yeah were yeah exactly.
He would still get nervous and and be like, I
can't believe you're getting nervous about anything. So where did
the title come from? So originally it was Class of
Beverly Hills that was the title, and then Barry Diller
had this idea to call it Girls nine or two

(34:12):
and O, which I thought was the worst time I
ever heard of. I thought, that's horrible. You know, zip
code like and he was smart because I I thought, like,
to me, it was a show about high school and
he's like, no, it's more than that, and he I
just thought, Okay, that's the beauty of collaborating, right, because

(34:33):
you don't have all the answers. Nobody has all the
right answers, And it's so great when a group of
people come together and make a show, especially like this
where I don't know, everybody just kind of chimed in
and helped out and it made it so wonderful. I
have a question. Did Shannon and Jason do a chemistry
read together? Yes? Yes, okay, Jason read with Shannon. Wasn't

(34:56):
actually chemistry, but it was like for the from the
first time Jason read, it was already cast and she
read with him, and afterwards he walked out and she
was like yeah, Like she was like, I like them.
Was there anyone else up for the role of Brandon
that we would know? Uh? I don't know they were.
I just remember there were a couple of actors that

(35:16):
I don't remember the names, nobody that went on to
big like stardom or anything that that we looked at.
But nobody like really clicked and really the role wasn't
cast since the very last moment. He was the last
role cast in the pilot. Yes, he was on another
show that was getting canceled, and when that show kind
of like they that show, he was suddenly available. Was that,

(35:41):
sister Kate? Yes? Wow? Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you directed
the first step? No, you directed this episode we're talking
about today. I directed the Spring Spring episode of the
first season. Yeah, it's the episode that we're talking we're
rewatching today and talking about. So we're seeing masterful directing.

(36:06):
And actually the first thing I directed was it. Were
you excited? Were you nervous? Like, that's a big step.
I think I was definitely more nervous than anything else.
It's not, you know, like one of those things we
watch what else do it? But until you're doing it,
you don't know what they really to do it, until
you call that first action. Yeah, a big episode for

(36:31):
your directorial debut. That was. It was a lot happened
in that episode stylistically. It was so beautiful though. Yeah,
it's not like a John Hughes film, kind of like
I feel like I was watching a nineties wrong call.
You know. Well, that was like the whole idea behind
that for me was the that there had been these
great John Hughes movies, but no one had done it

(36:51):
for television, and quite that John Hughes way, I felt
like captured that for TV. Yeah, he's got chills. I
love that. It's so true though, So back to the original,
uh uh, the onset of the show. You said before
that your sister was the sort of music for inspirations

(37:14):
for Brenda. I was just thinking about when I wrote
just think of my sister so great. You guys were close, right, yeah,
we were close. And then so we follow a lot
for which character was most like you. I guess Random
was most like me, you know, um, the sort of
like you know, Jason made it more interesting than I

(37:35):
was in high school. But but I guess that's a
character because I guess that I could relate to the most.
You was the first episode, the pilot episode. It was
was it meant to be a movie or was it
just meant to be a two hour situation? You know,
I had only written movies up to that point, so
that's all I knew how to do. So I wrote
it in a two hour movie, and I think it

(37:57):
ended up being closer than ninety minutes or something like
that when it aired, when it was cut and everything. Yeah,
how do they do that? How they don't know how
they did that? How they what made it ninety minutes? Yeah?
Like how do they air ninety minutes back then? Back then?
I think they did air as ninety minutes back then?
I said, nothing else to air? Was just starting out. Yeah,

(38:22):
I remember we were always on the verge of cancelation
that first season. It wasn't that. Yeah, is that the truth?
It wasn't a hit, right, wasn't a hit? With the
episodes you get like dribbled in, dribble in like three episodes,
and we first got twelve, and they ordered four and

(38:45):
they ordered three. Oh. Air was always on the phone
beating them up and trying to get them to order more.
You know what would have happened if they didn't order more.
We wouldn't all be sitting here talking to each other.
I know. It's so scary to think about how things
gonna go on. And and then you remember we came
back in the summer that first season and it was

(39:06):
it was like a good news bad news thing. When
Chuck Rosen and I went to meet the network, they're like,
great news, you guys are doing so well, and we
kind of made it through that first season, which was
still episodes at right, and then we're thinking that we're
gonna take this break. I'm not sure even knew this,
but they told us in like April or May that,

(39:27):
you know, just as we finished production that were that
we were going to get renewed. They wanted us to
come back in the summer, which meant that we couldn't
take a break. So that was the second season was
Summer the Beach. Oh my gosh, already we started. We
started filming like immediately. I think it aired in five

(39:48):
so we were like filming in May. We never really
barely No, it is for the no ite is for
the right. But Chuck Rosen was going on vacation with
his family me to Hawaiian. The only way to keep
going was I had to go on vacation with him
and his family to Hawaii. So good how that the

(40:11):
four seasons on Maui, I'm like, I've never been there,
and I was there with Chuck and his family and
his little kids and were standing by the pool drinking
and figuring out the next season. And matter to know,
that's hilarious. That's a perfect way to figure it out.
I think, yeah, it was. It was. It's a crazy
memily that we have actually did I wanted to know

(40:31):
because we have memories of how it went down. The
story of the casting of Luke I don't think. I
guess I don't remember being that complicated. You know, we
felt like we didn't have this sort of bad boy
character from the was on the pilot, and so we
kind of as we got together as a writing staff,
we kind of thought, we need character. And I don't

(40:52):
know if it's a network idea where it came from,
or was you know, Aaron's idea, But so we developed
a character of Dylan and then we I don't remember
reading anybody except for Luke. I just remember Luke coming
in and thinking like, oh my god, he's perfect and
he was paving parking lots at the time, and and

(41:13):
then like the next day he was like one basically.
And in the first season we feel like he's not
in it that much. Was he only cast like seven
out of or how did that go? He probably was,
but he was in it. He had the he was
had an affair with Brenda, and in that first episode
that he was in, he and Brandon were surfing and

(41:35):
I don't remember. I guess I remember Luke a bunch
of the first season, but he probably was instead out
of thirteen. Basically, you know, he wasn't in He wasn't
meant to be in all of them because it was
like a new character, we're gonna shook out. But had
some good episodes that first season. Are you like me,

(42:04):
like you don't like to watch your work back? Do
you have you watched? Well, I have to say I have.
I haven't watched Spring Dance, but I've seen I don't.
I saw a Slumber Party recently, which I think is
so good. There's two episodes I saw in both of them,
but you're both and all you're both in both of them,
slumber Party and the Perfect Mom episode. I don't know why.

(42:26):
I went back to see it, and it's like, have
you seen that one lately? We did? We watched that.
It's good? Isn't it really good? I mean like I
watched and I was like, wow, it was better than
I even remembered it being it stands the test of time.
I love it. And the and you're the woman that
plays your mom is like fantastic. I know she's so great.

(42:47):
She lives like somewhere else now and she's a minister,
you know. I googled her and I found that out
like really, just like about a month ago. I watched
it just I think it was because it was I
just saw that nine of when it was on the
original series on Hulu. So once I saw it, and
I was like, I just randomly clicked on that episode

(43:07):
to watch it. I thought I thought I was gonna
watch it for five minutes. I just like watched the
whole thing. You get sucked in, right, Ye. We hadn't
rewatched since we filmed it, so rewatching it now, it's
so relevant except for like the cell phones that are
like huge bricks. Other than that, the clothings up to date,

(43:28):
because it's all around again. It's so fun though, to
watch it for the first time and we're kind of
fanning out, like we're watching it as fans, like somehow
removing ourselves from from it all. I mean, I'm watching
an episode like I wrote that episode and I'm watching
it and I don't even remember I don't remember me,
I don't remember the story. So I'm like kind of

(43:49):
like getting surprised as I'm watching it, like you know,
I don't remember. I literally could not remember the storyline.
So it's kind of all surprised. Do you find that
when you're watching them, like you don't even remember the story? Yeah, definitely,
I have a really bad memory. Tory has to fill
me in on everything. But um, it's so good to
watch it because it kind of like refreshes, it brings
it all back a little bit. Yeah, and you were there, Yeah,

(44:13):
you were there? Well, I mean melrose Place? Come about that?
They that box was like, we want to spin off?
Or did you guys think of it? Come to wait?
Wasn't it the construction guy in the backyard, wasn't it right?
That's how it Melrose Place. They wanted to spin off. First,
they wanted a college show, and I I said, you guys,

(44:35):
we can't do a college show because these characters are
gonna go to college. And they didn't really think about
that there. They didn't have this. They didn't realize that
the cast of nine or two and oh in orders
for the show too Ball was going to like leave
high school. And I think when they you know, you
know that we were in high school for two seasons
Junior year Two's basically, Um, and I had lived in

(45:00):
a building like that. So I had this idea for
this show, and we kind of shoehorned it in. It
wasn't you know. It was sort of like it wasn't
the most organic spin off, but we kind of found
a way to kind of incorporate. You remember Jake and
he was the handyman at your mom's wedding? Was that
what it was? And you had an affair with him?
That story would not fly today. It was basically statutory rate.

(45:25):
He was a little older. He was a little older. Yeah, yeah,
you were very precocious. Kelly was very precious. So many
of the stories don't wouldn't work now. I mean, but
I find on our show that there aren't a lot
of storylines where I say to myself, I don't think
that would fly today. There are a few moments we've
had so far in the first season where you know,

(45:45):
things are so different now, and uh, I haven't found
myself thinking that very often. Yeah, but yeah, that that
was one of them. That was one of them, for sure.
I look back, I'm like, wow, even nobody likes so
a word at that time. Nope. Yeah, And and Brenda
was notoriously always going for older men in the first episode.
We feel like every episode in the pilot you had

(46:08):
affair with our college kid or something like that. Yeah,
the creepy college by Yeah, he's so creepy. Yeah yeah,
and I'm crying. You have always your shows are always,
like I said before, very um beautiful to the eye.
And a big part of that's fashion, right, Like I

(46:30):
know that you said that that wasn't something that you
were really concerned about in the beginning, but then you realize,
I you know, Aaron was always very concerned about fashion.
Your dad was always very in wardrobe and everything like
that always, And I never thought of nine o two
and I was like, I mean, you think about Dynasty,
that's such a fashion show. But to me, I just thought, like,

(46:51):
who cares what everybody's wearing? But um, you know, and
that's place. But he would always have Aaron would always
have like, um, wardrobe coming to office and you look
at everything, and first I thought, well, how does he
even know? But he had an eye, he knew. He
had a real sense of like what people wearing, with
characters wearing, and also how important wardrobe would be. Um,

(47:12):
wardrope and hair and makeup was something I really didn't
think about so I definitely learned a lot about that
from Aaron and even on that episode Perfect Mom. I
remember showing friends and episode when it aired, and they
were just like looking at the clothes because it was
a fashion it really the clothes, And I thought, but like,
aren't you like paying attention to the story of the characters,
But my beautiful writing, people do I mean people watch

(47:36):
TV for the clothes, and they watch it for the interior,
and they watch it for the set. I really feel
like they do. She used to come home with polaroids.
My dad always had polaroids in his briefcase. Yeah, and
from his office, and he'd be like, what do you
think the skirt? And it was always in the hair.
Do I think I want to change it? He would
ask my opinion, but he had the opinions as well,

(47:58):
and it was I used my friends and I would laugh.
They'd be like, your dad's into that. I'm like, yeah,
who knew? Well he knew? No, well he knew was
all part of Like look, that's part of in a
real old school way, like that's part of making movies,
you know, old Hollywood, Like you look at all the
hair and makeup and wardrobe tests and everything like that,
though they always would do those. Um, so yeah, I

(48:22):
saw how important it became, especially on our shows, you know. Yeah,
it became a huge part of your shows. I mean
Sex in the City was just like that was the
show for fashion to watch, and now Emilia in Paris
just the same. Well you're still working with Pat right, Yeah,
I work at Field, so that's yeah, that's a big
part of why that happens because of her. She's just

(48:43):
a genius and she just goes you know, and she
goes out there and I feel like she entered like
the clothes become entertaining and people watch for them. And
you know, when I was doing Sex and the City
with her at the beginning, I would I would sort
of get annoyed, like, you know, we can't hear the
dialogue because the closures speak are so loud. Yeah, it's

(49:05):
like you can't, like, who's gonna like listen to what
they're saying. They're just staring like kind of basically in
shock at what some of these characters are wearing. And
um but I know that the audience loves and I
you know, I gave her a lot of rope, and
I trust her and some I realized I look at
stuff and I'm like, it's crazy, but it's fun, you know,
and it's like, you know, we're not doing a documentary.

(49:25):
Not doing a documentary, right? Yeah? Have you? I was curious,
you know, have you ever gone to the darker side?
Have you ever wanted to explore like creating something not
quite so colorful? And I don't know, I I like
a Gritt've done very glasses show. I've always done pretty

(49:46):
glasses shows. I mean, I actually like, um, I don't know.
I would. I think if the material is right and
if I could really connect to it. You know, I
actually love science fiction. I love watching science fiction. But
you know, I think they but I think they could
have fashion in the future also or on the board
like space. I don't like horror, no do you loves

(50:10):
I can't watch it. I just can't. It disturbed me
too much. Yeah you know nightmares. Yeah, well, because you know,
like as actors, like you get tired of just doing
a drama and you want to go try comedy and
then you want to go to a western like you
want to try to I would like to. I would,
I mean, I I you know, side over yet so

(50:32):
it would be fun to try to do different things
for sure. You know, it's really just for me. It's
about what I can write and really connect to as
a writer that I can that I can do it justice.
But yeah, I would. I think it'd be cool to
do with I love thrillers. I don't love horror, but
I love thrillers, you know, mysteries that sort of stuff. Right.
Can we go back to Sex Mas City? For sure? Fan?

(50:57):
So I have to ask you, the character is on
Sex of the City, who would you like in Kelly
and Donna to the characters? Okay, I have to say,
And I know this is like not you know, maybe
that's like a the answer you want, But I just
think there's so I think Kelly and Donna are so different.

(51:19):
I think there there are some the own people. I
don't think of them in comparison to other characters, you
know what I mean, Like, I can't. I just think
they're they're Kelly and Donna. I don't I think that,
like you know, I think I would. I think you're
just both Samantha House that do you want to be Samantha? No,

(51:41):
that's you, I know. And I'm not like pro I'm
not like, you're not no in real life wherein Kelly
was I feel like the great the great thing is
I feel like every woman and man has a side
of every character on Sex. Yes, exactly, we all have
a little bit of that totally. There's always a little Miranda,
a little Charlotte, little carry exactly, you're not. No One's

(52:05):
everything exactly exactly one of those Yes, no one's exactly
one of these people, totally totally. Who would you be though,
from Sex in the City. You know, I'd probably be
to carry Mr Big, No, I would I don't know.
Mr Big was a little like, I'm not like that
emotionally distant. He's pretty emotionally, you know, emostly cut off.

(52:28):
I'd probably be carry. I mean, she's a writer, she's
writing about stuff. I think she had a great sense
of humor. I mean, you know, I think I would
just most identify with her only because she's like the
writer character of the group. You um, you film Emily
in Paris in Paris, Yeah, and we start filming. It

(52:51):
was great. I mean, we start we go back in
the third we start filming the second season. Are you
going back to Paris? We started the south of France
and then I know, you know, we gotta do it
still if you ever need some cameos were available. All right,
we can hold your script if you'd like, I mean,
would really just get your glasses. You can see the sides.

(53:13):
Just come on over and visit anytime. We can do that.
We can do our podcasts from there. There you go, BTS.
We could do behind the scenes for you. That's right.
I love I love that. Oh my god. Lily Collins
was on the reboot of nine or two and that
was her first job. What, Oh my god, I didn't
remember that. Oh my god. Wait, so the woman with

(53:34):
the young people, the new young people, Yes, the one
with the young people. What were you you young when?
But when they rebooted it, I wasn't young anymore. They
got young again. Yeah, oh I didn't know that. I
didn't know that Lily. She'd be a good guest for

(53:54):
you guys. Talk about that. When they did the reboot
of nine, did they come to you. No, No, not
at all, not at all, because you know, it was
just owned by them, and I think they didn't want
after hey meum, but they just went off and did it. Yeah,
we have issues with that one, even though Jen's started it.

(54:16):
I kind of read about in Variety like all of
oh my gosh, they killed your mother off, Like that's
the thing I didn't like because I was like, that's
an original nine character. They shouldn't mess with that, right. Yeah, yes,
I read about Variety while I was doing a show
for the c W. Oh my god, were you like

(54:36):
what we Yeah? Um, yeah, I think we all were.
I think we all were. Y Yeah, definitely. And then
the crazy movies they did on the c W. No, no,
on Lifetime, Lifetime, but the real life of the did
you did you like the person that played you? I thought,

(54:59):
you know what I looked at At first I was appalled,
and then I just laughed. I mean you have to laugh, right,
you had to laugh at that? Yeah, you just have
to laugh. The only one that looked the girl that
played me looked just like me, Like I feel like
I could hire her as my double for something. She was.
She was good. Yea. It captured a little bit of
the beginning, it did, I have to say, yeah, it did.

(55:22):
It captured a little bit at the beginning. I don't
know where they got it all from, but it did
sort of like, yeah, I heard that they just compiled
that from um all of our interviews or books that
we had written, Like Jason wrote a book, I wrote
a book. You've written books. So they took a lot
of that material and pasted it all together. And I
just don't how do you come to us and asking

(55:44):
because they went a little bit differently fact checked a
little bit right, that would have been nice. And you
know what, I'm curious because your shows are so stylized.
I'm going to keep the in that upset it like
eight times. But is that like when you're writing, when

(56:06):
you're Darren sitting down to write something, is that how
you see the world like sort of through those beautiful lenses?
You know? I keep thinking I'm writing something realistic and
then people come and tell me it's stylized, So it
is that's how you see the world sort of sort of,
I guess so to a degree, Yeah, that's such a

(56:26):
fun way to see the world. Though, Yeah, I mean
I feel like emotionally, I think the characters have a
lot of emotional truth to them. That's important. That's the
important thing. And I think people, yeah, but do you
have a lot of characters are just basically all these
shows are in a way characters in a room talking
to each other. So it's basically like the settings become

(56:49):
visually have to say pull you in, because ultimately the
shows are just about people talking, all of them and
personal drama. So yeah, I mean that's the thing people
always say. What that's the number one question that I've
always been asked on interviews and I'm sure you tutor
is um, why do you think it struck such a

(57:10):
chord with people? Why do you think people loved Beverly
Hills nine o two one oh so much? And why
is it standing the test of time? And that's the answer.
Like it was this fantastic, amazing world that no one
had ever seen before Beverly Hills and that lifestyle, but
it was just it's so much more about the characters
and the integration of the characters and like the relatability. Yeah,

(57:32):
I mean, it wasn't. It was all about the characters.
It wasn't as people can say, oh, it's superficial and shallow,
but it really wasn't, because the characters had depth to
them and they were relatable. I mean, it's all and
it was like the window dress is great, but that's
not when the show was utual takes you so far. Yeah,
it only takes so far exactly because that anybody can

(57:53):
do that show. Anybody can shoot a show that looks great.
But it's really all about the cast, the characters, the um,
the emotion, and it all has to click, you know,
the writing and the cast. You gotta get so lucky
for all to come together. It's kind of amazing when
it does. Like on our show, it's like you think

(58:14):
all the little things that might not have happened if
you didn't have exactly the cast that we had, you know,
like it might not have worked. You know, it all
has to come together. You know. It's cant of making
me get a little misty eyed because I thought that
because you directed this episode Spring Dance, and at the
very end, when the whole gang starts dancing on the

(58:38):
dance floor, it stirred something in me that I couldn't deny.
You know. It was like, oh, those people in that
moment and just yeah, and you guys you had that
you did sort of have that like real camaraderie with
each other and that real, that real connection, and it
came through you know, it was like you were able

(58:58):
to you really were able to kind of like get
it on the screen, that feeling of what it's like
to sort of like have these best friends in high
school together because you sort of also felt that way
about each other. Yeah at the time, you know, they
call it lightning in a bottle, right, yeah, I know. Yeah,
it's just you gotta get you do have to get lucky.

(59:19):
You can work so hard, but you gotta get lucky.
I remember, I really remember that. I remember that shot.
It was like for me, it was so exciting, you know,
it was like I was working with a crane that
was like, you know, exciting. The big guns came out. Yeah, right, yeah,
the toys Darren, Do you have a favorite episode of Original? Yeah?

(59:46):
Oh god, that's a hard question. Do I love Donna Graduates,
Donna Martin graduates who knew? Oh my gosh. Um, you know,
because I was there so much in the first few years,
I was a by the ones that are most top
of my mind. That's when I was there ad the time.
I love Swint Dance, I really do. Maybe because I

(01:00:07):
directed it was the first had directive, But I just
I just like I love the episode. I love all
the emotion that I love. Like just um, I love
the comedy. I remember you Tory, like wearing that crazy
hoop skirts and coming out of a limo. How funny
you were and trying to sit down. I don't know,
just all these things that were there, just like we're
just so excited to have that fun for me. Yeah,

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that was funny and just had had emotion and it
was I think great. I was like a little John
Hughes movie and it kind of captured the ensemble so well.
I thought Iron was so good in this episode. He
was so good. Yes, I remember Brandon in the little

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kitchen hallway and lighting on them. Oh my god, was gorgeous.
But his emotions were so great. You directed him so beautifully,
like thank you, thank you, piece for me him. I
thought Iron was great in the reboots. He was so
he looks he looks amazing, he looks fantastic, he's so built.

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He's a handsome, handsome devil. Yeah. Yeah, everyone, I mean
everyone's everyone's held together pretty good. Yeah, Brian looked amazing. Yeah,
it's really true. Everybody looks so. Everybody looks so good.
We're doing our best to make you proud of you.
You have to keep it up for you do well.

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All the fans out there that you that still watch
the show and see you and they're like, wow, it
still looks like you in my school. You know, we've
got a few more years in us. Yeah, a lot
more than a lot, more than a few. I don't know.
We boasted further back right right. You are so fun
to talk to. I feel like, oh my God, should

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be great to see you in personally. Do it. We'll
do it. Let's do it in l A. Let's find
each other. I'm here. I go back to France and
like to like a week and a half to do
this next season in Paris, son, are you there for
how long? Till till the end of till the end
of July? And right now they have a lock they
have a lockdown, which is a little weird. Um, they're
not doing so well, but you do the quarantine two weeks.

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Then when you get there one week, one week, one week,
and then it doesn't have start filming. Yeah we're able
to film. But you know, we filmed Younger, the series
I've doing in New York. The last season just finished
and we thank you. We filmed um in during the
pandemic and you know we have to amass on set
the whole time. I don't know if you guys have

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worked at all during this period, but it's like you
have to wear masks on the set and it's just,
you know, it's not fun, but at least it's worth doing.
It's worth doing. It's not fun, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Um,
So which eisode? How many episodes have you done on
the podcast? Now? This is our spring dance, so it's
twenty one. You really have one more. Every episode we've

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done since the beginning of the show. It's fun for us.
We're just reliving it. It's like it's such a gift
to be able to go back and watch all of
this from one. So what's your favorite show between one
and now that you've seen the first season? Do you
have favorites? Were ones that are surprising that you're like,
I didn't realize that was so good, Or I don't
realize that was so bad that happened that happened that

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was Yes, there was an episode that we found out
that the network throughout like the weekend before everything started
the Baseball one training I was training. We heard that. Yeah,
it was like one or two episodes ago. Yeah, and
they told us that it was We don't know if

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this is true, but we heard that this was an
episode that they threw out the script about Brandon meeting
a veteran and having like a whole thing with a vet. Uh,
and then they had to come up with something over
the weekend, and this is what they came up with,
the baseball one. Yeah, it was a fun episode. It
wasn't our favorite, but it felt difference a little bit.

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Did it feel like it was written over the weekend?
Basically a little bit? A little bit. It was a
little bad news bears. It didn't feel like right as much. So.
Which one from the first season so far towards your favorite?
Oh my gosh, I still it's the iconic ones. It's Sleepover,
superber Parties, was slumber Party sorry, and and Spring Dance

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for sure. I always say my favorite was the Pilot
because you do that. Oh my god. I loved everything
about the Pilot, the way it looked and the way
it was shot, and just it blew my mind. That
I also said, look like a John Hughes movie, Like
it was just perfect. Hunter director at the time directed that,

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And No, I thought the Pilot when I saw it
was was like, this is amazing. This is so good,
and I and the network was like, yeah, we'll see
and I'm like, don't you guys get it? But they
did eventually because I thought the pilot was like you
did that was like really strong. Yeah, we hadn't seen
it before, not on TV now and then, but now

(01:05:18):
I like the pilot and I think this one is
a close second. All right, thank you, thank you, good job,
good job, thank you. Yeah, thank you for spending time
with us, for doing this. Let me reiterate, for all
those people out there that are there, they're listening to it,
they're not watching on zoom. How gorgeous you guys look,

(01:05:41):
you look amazing. Thanks, you'd be safe over there, all okay, okay,
bye bye, thank you. I was super nervous. It's like
talking to your creator, like the like the men that

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made you. It's so funny talking to him. I still
revert it back in my head. I was like, careful
what you say, Like I don't know, it's the creator.
I'm just like daughter. He was forced to cast Like
I felt that way and like I wanted to say
something but I couldn't. And I'm just like God, all

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these years, I've wondered, was he like, oh, I have
to cast her, like I'm still wondering I have to
cast her. I don't think you said that's how I
feel like. You know, you have to get you have
to let go of that feeling. Lady, I didn't go
to get What is it? They say? Cord cutting? Okay,
we need to we need to extract him with me. Yeah,

(01:06:44):
we needed to go to like a healer in like
ally or something. Okay, let's go. It sounds like a
good episode. What a genuine, kind, down to earth human
being with so much success, so humble mm hmm. He

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doesn't have to be humble, he's a genius, but he is.
But he was great and and so um. It's so
great to have his perspective too, because we were so
young and green at that moment and we didn't know
what was happening, and we were just on the set
doing the work and he was back there, you know,
with the strings, the puppeteer. He was making it, making

(01:07:24):
it all up. What a mind. I love it. It's
funny when he said that he was excited for the crane,
because that was like a yeah, yeah, for sure, his
first episode directing. I wonder I didn't ask him, but
I wanted to ask him if he had gone on
to direct more shows or direct on his other shows.

(01:07:46):
I wanted to know, but I didn't have time. Well,
when when we joined him in Paris, we'll ask him.
All right, yes, he's booking the tickets, right, Oh is
he okay? I think so? Yeah? Like insight as to
have their starting production for Emily in Pairs season two.
I don't even think that info is out yet, so

(01:08:07):
people will be season three or season two mm hmm.
But that's it for today. That's it for this episode,
you guys, so we should we should wrap it up,
I say, speaking of wrapping it up. Rap party, Oh yeah,
wrap good one. Nice tie says, Let's see how you
did that? Are big Rap Party is coming up in

(01:08:29):
two weeks. What's the date on that tour? That'll be
on April at five pm Pacific Standard time eight p
m Eastern Standard time, and you can join us for
our live rap party. Yeah, come hang out. We have
to really try to make it like a rat party.
I don't know how we're going to pull that off,
but we gotta. We got a brainstorm. You can get

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your tickets on location live dot com slash nine o
two one zero. Well, I'll just make it like our
original rap party, and I'll get drunk and puke and
you hold my hair, get wasted and throw up in
a garbage again somewhere, and then it'll be like about
party here you got beforehand, colassie or classy gals? All Right,

(01:09:12):
you guys think so much for joining us this week? Uh?
Next week coming up is the season finale of season one,
which is very excited, exciting episode twenty two Home Again,
so everybody watch in the whole season. Yeah, I love it.

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It's been so much fun. But I'll save that for
next week. Okay, see you next week, you guys, Love
you one Love