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June 21, 2021 56 mins

Coming in Hot. We meet Emily Valentine for the first time and buckle up because we're in for a bumpy ride.

Tori wants to know why Christine was not a regular cast member.


Plus, we get all the details on that singing, slicked back hair and those outfits.

 

In real life Jennie's daughter just graduated from High School and everyone seems to have stumbled upon Jennie's lifetime movie...what's it like watching her now vs 90210?!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys,
welcome to another episode of nine O two one O
MG with my beautiful friends and ladies Jenny and Sussany. See,
I got it right this time. First names only, and

(00:23):
I'm tost names only. Imagine we'll just be lazy and
we'll just go buy initials so it'll be like the
J to the T to the S. Oh I like that. Okay, yep,
sounds good. How are you guys? Good? Um? Hello, you
had a huge week, uh from high school? Tell us

(00:47):
about mama. I know, I have two kids, like out
of the nest basically now it's so weird, but yeah,
Lola graduated from high school yesterday and there was a big,
like in person graduation. It was really incredible, felt really
weird to be around that many people, but it was
so much fun and just just getting to see all

(01:10):
the seventy nine students that graduated with her getting to
have that experience. I was just really happy for them
and all they were so happy and young and excitement life.
We have their whole lives ahead of them. Good feelings. Yeah,
and then we did like a like an after grad
party at our house and it was just chill and

(01:31):
we hung out. We went around the circle and said
things we love about Lola. We always like to do that,
you know, when you have like a birthday party or
any kind of a celebration, we always like to put
every guest on the spot and make them say something nice.
But it was fun and she had a great time.
I am so happy that things reopened and she was
able to have that experience. I mean, I feel so

(01:53):
sad for all of the graduates better things. Oh my goodness. Well,
I'm proud of you. You were raising three amazing, strong girls,
and honestly, you guys, they couldn't be better kids. Like
the kids, two of them aren't really kids anymore, but

(02:14):
they'll always be your babies. But they're such great girls,
and and you're just you're an awesome mom. Thank you.
I like them. Did you did you have any but
any kids stepping up to like junior high this year?
Because my Fiona, my littlest one, she's stepping up at
high school this year. She graduated from eighth grade. What

(02:34):
about you? So Fiona and Liam are at the same age,
and Liam is going on as well, because this year
was kind of wonky and he was online and it
was a new school anyway, and then it only went
to eighth grade and he's going on to high school.
He didn't want to do a culmination, so he was like,
I just want to start fresh next year. But yeah,
so we have two kids going into high school next year.

(02:56):
This is crazy crazy town. Ninth grade. Oh yikes. Exciting though,
high school so fun time minus the fun. We're like,
I don't know about that. I hated high school, but
you liked it to I liked it, but I did not.
I didn't like high school, but I was only there
for to a year freshman a year. I left high

(03:22):
school in my sophomore year. I never looked back. Bye.
I think I definitely liked high school on the show
better than high school in real life. That was a
little more fun. Yeah, I was like, I mean I
was popular, but on TV I was really popular, so
it was even better. That's kind of interesting. You guys

(03:42):
got a taste of both worlds of what it was
like to like be in real high school versus a
fake one. That was awesome, right, Yeah. Very I went
to an all girls school, so it was uniforms and
all girls, very different experience than West Beverly High. Jenny,
I saw your movie. I saw your movie too. You

(04:04):
watched it, thing does. It's so nice of you. I
dv art it and made a whole night out of it.
It was nice. I watched Lifetime at on Saturday night
in twelve, so I win this. Lifetime movies are good movies.

(04:24):
It was. It was not your you know, like, people
liked it a lot, but they didn't like it because
the subject matter was sad. But it did well and
I'm happy, yeah, happy that you guys watched it. I
told her how great she was and how great she looks,
and she was like, I didn't look good in it,
Like are you kidding me? You have to play mother

(04:45):
to me? Yeah? Like I think the whole time you're
like in distress and worried and so yeah. The thing
is like I try, you tries and actress to make
it the movie, the role, the experience for everybody as
real as possible, while it's completely not real and you
know that, and it's so it's really challenging, especially like that,

(05:09):
like when you're doing really emotional stuff and sad and
crazy bad stuff to worry about how you look. So
I was really into not looking great in this movie,
not worrying about how I looked, and just completely leaving
it to whoever was in charge of that. And and yeah,
I mean I thought it looked realistic, but it was

(05:32):
it's hard to watch myself with that with not you know,
with my critical eye. It's so funny. It's not funny.
I mean, it's so funny. It's not funny. Um, how
actors are like that? Because I mean, I'm sure you
agree this, like from our perspective, I know you weren't
trying to look in the movie. You looked really good
in the movie, like you looked great. And I was

(05:55):
telling her it was the first time that my daughter Stella,
who's like they're like family, has seen her and something
other than nine O two and oh and b h
now to ow oh mystery girls. I guess something that
wasn't a comedy or nine o two and now, and
she goes, Jenny is such a good actress. My kids
were so into the movie and afterwards they wanted to

(06:18):
talk about it and the discussion because I know, you know,
I told this is based on a true story. Yeah,
then how sad that this happened? And and it was
a good conversation, an important conversation to have, especially with
your girls. Yeah, definitely hopefully that. I'm so happy that
they got they liked it and they got that takeaway,
you know, to talk to you about stuff. So thank

(06:38):
you about being careful out there. Yeah, it was a
differencing you act now like in the present versus watching
you thirty years ago, and like I mean I would hope, yeah,
I would to reach there and like give you a
hug in this movie because you were just so sad
in it the whole time. And so yeah, well I'm
glad it did, it came and went. People can still

(07:00):
watch it. I think it like they on the Lifetime
they kind of like reair the shows over and over right, Yes,
Lifetimes Summer of Secret to guys, lots of great movies
from on Lifetime. This summer Left for Dead Story, Yeah
it was great. I don't so. Um. You are wrapped

(07:21):
though with the show that you just we're working on.
I am wrapped. Yeah. What were you been doing tour?
You were like in some hotel or motel, like doing
struts down always. Oh my gosh, so that was actually
a stage always like every day on Instagram like a
new outfit. And so our friend Laura, who does my hair,

(07:45):
she was like, oh, you look so great. This is
such a different look. We have to put it up.
And people kept saying like why she had a motel,
like what's going on? And I was like, you know,
and you don't want to answer back to that stuff
because it's just like like the haters. But yeah, everyone
thought I was just like all dolled up in a motel. No,
it's it's a set. It's like no, but it's like

(08:08):
the production. I guess they took over that whole. It's
a whole set, and that's the office building and then
everyone's dressing rooms in that building, so that's the walk
to get to stage. But um, I was so happy
because I live in the valley and it's like it's
in Van Eye. So it was really excited. Like her
whole place in Van Eye nice. Um, so it was

(08:30):
so nice to not have to go far for work
and you're with Snooky. I love her, the Snook the
Snook Store. She didn't go by that. Um you know her. No.
I met her one time at an event. She would
never remember me in a hundred years, but a crazy
Jersey Shore fan, like, okay, I still watched their show
to this day. She's great. I mean obviously we all

(08:53):
had our perceptions of what she was back then, and
now she's so smart, so funny, so humble, like a
kick ass entrepreneur, like a great mom. Just someone you're like,
oh okay, Yeah, everyone has their like thing that you're
known for, and sometimes that perception never goes away. So
it's nice to be able to come into it and
meet somebody and be like, you're totally not what I expected,

(09:16):
and I love it. That's good. Yeah, it looked like
you were having a lot of fun. That's gonna be
airing later this summer. I'm not sure when, but yeah,
definitely this year on MTV. MTV did you when you
I never let my kids watch MTV? Isn't that crazy?
Why the video? No? Because well, when they were little,

(09:45):
we would go to um my in law's house in
Long Island, and Vinnie would always have them TV on,
and you would have it on every flat screen TV
in the house, and there were a lot and he
would um have the volume up really loud, and I
was like, oh, not, my little baby's ears, Like I
don't want him to hear all this, like everything that's

(10:07):
going on these music videos, the visuals are so scary,
like it was a lot for little kids, so it
totally scared me and I didn't I didn't grow up
watching MTV either, so my kids just literally never watched MTV.
Still to this day, they don't watch MTV that I
know of. It changed a lot in the last on
a couple of decades. Probably didn't even play music videos anymore.

(10:32):
It's like it's more like shows, right, like Teen Mom
and Jersey Shore. Some of them a little inappropriate, I
guess for kids. I mean, they can watch it now.
I'm sure they're older, but whatever. Back I just those videos.
The music videos can be so suggestive sometimes and in
a pro I mean that's coming from Kelly Taylor. I know,

(11:00):
it's sorry. You kind of cracked the whip when it
comes to what your kids watching TV. I you know what,
I'm one of those moms. Do as I say, not
as I did? I did? What about you too? Are
you free for all? When it comes to what they watch?

(11:21):
Not free for all? But um, definitely there's been things
they ask, which is good. They don't just watch, you
know enough to be like, hey, there's this new series
there was Something Something Megan. Do you know what that
show is? Megan was Left for Dead? Or who Killed Megan?
Or oh on Netflix, who killed Sarah? No, Um, it's

(11:44):
it's some show that I guess is controversial for young
young people because yeah, it's yeah, I don't know anyway,
Stella said can I watch it? And I said, um,
you can watch it. I want you to watch it
with me, and then Hattie I told her she was
too young to watch it. But now I forgot what
it's about. But something the one, no, not that one

(12:06):
else throw names out there now. I think there's a
lot of teen shows right now that are pushing the
envelope pretty hard of what the kids should maybe not
be seeing at such young formative ages. But the times
are so different. There's nothing. I feel like they've seen everything,
and I feel like the same thing, same conversations that

(12:29):
parents were having thirty years ago with no no, no,
these are different, much more serious. That's a little racey here.
Don't you think I was way too young to watch
when I did? But it's because I had an older sister,
So yeah, I probably probably at the time. If I

(12:49):
had had kids, I would have let them watched I
know too and O. I think because it was on
prime time, there wasn't cursing, there was at nudity at
least there was none of that, you know on the
streaming shows they have everything. Yeah, it was really I
think a few years back now Thirteen Reasons Why. I
think that's what started the conversation with kids asking their

(13:09):
parents is this okay to watch? Can I watch it?
And parents not being okay or being like, hey watch
it with me. So now my kids always asked, which
is great. I appreciate that a show like Thirteen Reasons Why,
that was interesting because that topic was the top of
you know, suicide was the topic throughout the whole series,
whereas I feel like Beverly Hills and ANTONEO had a

(13:31):
different topic every episode almost you know, and they were
crazy topics like that. Speaking of which, there are episode
this week, our episode, you guys so hard to find out.
We're already at episode eight of season two. You believe it,
go back to school. The summer went so fast, you

(13:53):
good one. I know it was sad to see the
Beach Club say boyd bye. Now we're back to school.
Back to reality, Back to school, no, that's that's not
back too. Sorry, I always wanted to s anyway. Season two,
episode eight, Wildfire, aired on September twelfth, nine. Synopsis. At

(14:18):
the opening day of the new school year, Brenda becomes
peeved when Dylan starts spending time with the new transfer student,
Emily Valendine. Meanwhile, David is reunited with Scott after he
returns from his summer vacation and finds that his friendship
with David isn't as close as it used to be.
Directed by Daniel Addies, written by Darren Starr, Steve Wasserman,

(14:40):
and Jessica Klein. You like the words you said peeved,
and I liked it because it's pretty much it just
it just says exactly the mood Brenda emitted. She was peeved. Man,
I'm peeved at you. My new word today, don't eaves
me off. I shan't ship. Uh yeah. This episode, Emily

(15:09):
Valentine comes in like a freaking wrecking ball and just
like chakes everything up, gets all the girls all mad
and all the boys like hot panting after her. Ter
see why, I mean, she was like, she was beautiful
and like different looking, edgy. She just had that non

(15:33):
conformist kind of vibe. She really did. Yeah, that girl
Like I, I would have been scared of Emily Valentine
in school, Like back then, you would have been scared
of her, scared or both both just because was it

(15:54):
was it the mismatched earrings. It would have really seen
you this because I feel like when I was like
sixteen seventeen, anyone that was dressed like that, I would
have thought like, Oh, they're not going to be nice,
and that's totally putting, you know what stereotype I'm stereotype. Yeah,

(16:16):
but I was a young girl, so I would have
been like, but deep down I would have been like, oh,
she won't like me, so like she's intimidating because she's
a force. You know, she's out there and she says
what she wants and what she feels and she doesn't
care how she you know, what she wears. And I
would have been like, you wouldn't like me. She she

(16:38):
would have liked you if she got to know you.
I feel like the girls were mostly well, like Brenda
and Donna and Kelly and Andrea were mostly welcoming of
her right out of the gate, Like you know, they
really seem to like include her and bring her in
like that was going to be a great thing until
until she started dating both the boys at the same time.

(16:59):
Those are the even Steve and David were like with her. Yeah,
but then I felt I felt really bad too, because
I felt like the girls kind of they shamed her,
they like slut shamed her when she wasn't a slut.
I know, it's very accurate. Girls are and were in

(17:24):
high school. Yeah, it's like you kind of just go
there as a fan. I remember watching him. I'm saying
I didn't like Emily Valentine, but I just felt like
it was a change, and I didn't I don't really
like change so much. It was like this was the
group and then all of a sudden, this girl comes in,
and now is this the new group? I don't know. Yeah,
how many episodes was Emily on the show for? Does

(17:47):
anybody know? She started? Obviously this was the first one,
and then she appeared in season five, episode fourteen. She
was in twelve total, and she wrote three of them.
So that was that was a minute she was with
the group. Yeah, really sad for her, Like I feel

(18:09):
especially like weird and guilty somehow. When Brenda was um
went to her lockers to like try to get her
to come out and be on stage. I felt terrible
that she had to say I'm I'm a virgin, Like,
why did she have to say that to get people

(18:29):
to back down or accept her not be so shamy?
You know, I just felt weird. Yeah, but again, that's
how US females react. Sadly, I don't think so much
now though, right is this stuff like that with girls?
I feel like it's all about, like, you know, women

(18:52):
supporting inclusiveness, not to women say but they're not always
like that, unfortunately. I feel like the women that you
choose to hang out with are like that. Yeah, I'm
just saying, for the most part, when I see bullying happening,

(19:12):
and it's not like personally I say it online, it's
women towards other women. Men don't really do that to
each other. They don't. So women are always the first
to say, like, no, we support each other, we are
empowering each other, and we always hope that's the case.
But sadly a lot of times it's not. But I

(19:32):
just think, like thirty years ago, the conversation wasn't even there,
and you know, and like I just it was so
natural for this type of role to being or these
you know, this to be written into the show. M hm,
the bad girl, yeah, claws her out, you know, Yeah,
there's always a bad boy. Brenda should be thanking Emily

(19:54):
because I got her back together with Dylan. Technically, yeah,
I'm real confused about that too. So they end up
are Brenda and Dylan back together at the end of
the episode. Right, It was so cheesy. I actually thought
it was a dream. I don't know. I was like,
when is she gonna wake up? What are we going

(20:14):
to be back in her bedroom? It was so on
the nose, like sappy. But we can we go back
to the very very beginning of the episode, please just
for a moment, um, Brandon's creepy dream where there's two
girls kissing him on each cheek. Yeah, And then and
then there's the what about the poor girl that had

(20:37):
the awful task of filing his ton nails nice feet?
They probably said, um, one of you is going to
be kissing him and the other one's gonna be kissing
his other cheek, and we need one person who's willing
to give him a pedicure. In this scene, I'm sure
many were willing, I'm sure, but just the look on

(20:59):
her face, she was like listen like this, she was
like filing, so distracting for me. And then the woman
that's coming out of the ocean in a weird gymnastics outfit.
Her voice is like, Brandon, it's the lowest it's I

(21:21):
thought it was a man's voice, so I thought when
he woke up, there was going to be a man
there waking him up, like he heard someone saying Brandon.
But then it was really Brandon waking him up, very
confused by the whole thing, and then I thought kind
of dream was that. Yeah, we really didn't come back
to her. No, Now I didn't finish. I wonder why, Yeah,

(21:43):
I wonder why that was written in because it really
didn't have anything to do with the episode. So somebody,
somebody wanted that dream sequence in there. It's just for
no good reason. Well, I guess he was saying goodbye
to the beach. That was his way of saying, so
long summer, right, Okay, that's true. And then everybody has

(22:05):
their back to school montage moment. I love that you
are really funny in yours with your hair really cute.
I liked it. Oh, my gosh, back to school. It
just honestly, even thirty years later, like seeing that back
to school moment still gave me anxiety. Yes, right, even

(22:26):
talking about not just from that, but just like going
back to school, Like when they have to go back
to school, I feel the same way for them, Like
I am almost nauseous more than them. Yeah, same, because
I remember I used to. I feel like I couldn't
eat or sleep, like three days before, I was up

(22:47):
all night the night before, just the anxiety of like,
here we go again. I hope everyone still likes me,
Hope I look cute. What's going to happen? Like? Oh
my am I gonna do okay in school? Oh god?
I hated sorry, so much pressure, too much pressure, especially
at West Beverly. You had to look good, she came.

(23:11):
I thought, Emily looked cool. You know, did they name
her Emily Valentine? Why? Why did they name her that
we had? You remember we had a script supervisor that
was with us for years and year, Diana Valentine, And
I wondered why were they have the same last name.
Maybe there's something there, I wonder. We'll have to ask Christine.

(23:34):
She knows all these facts. Yes, we need to get
her on the phone and do a little check in
with her, because now that her character's debuting, we have
more things to talk about. I mean, the name alone
gives her like this flirtinus right out the gate. What
is it the Valentine? You think? I think so? You

(23:56):
think for her names Valentine, it makes her flirty. Yeah,
it just instantly kind of did. And then she started
making out with all the boys, I mean one to
Who's next? Bhind them up. I feel like when Dylan,
he Dylan came on strong. He wanted to get in there.

(24:17):
I was very uncomfortable when he was hitting on her
because he was just so intense. Well, I cringe when
Brandon takes to the exact same spot. I was like,
oh no, yeah, at least she told him at least
you came clean and was like, look, I gotta be
honest with you. I was here last night with Dylan.

(24:39):
I like that. And he took a beat, and he
took a beat to like process the what she just said,
and then he thought. I felt like he handled it
really cute. That's so cool though, to be the girl
that walks into a new school. Girls are welcoming all
the boys want to be with you. Yeah, she was
like she was like a a piece of fresh meat.

(25:02):
I look, Emily Bellijay, can we get her? We're all
excited to have a fresh, fresh person in there. But
I felt like everybody seemed kind of aggressive with her,
Like even even when she was in the peach pit
and nat was took her off to show her something

(25:22):
and then he brings her back and he's clutching onto
her like and he's saying this is a good one
or something like, like objectifying her in a weird way
and clutching onto her body. I felt like I put
myself in her shoes, and I thought, I want I
want to ask her, dude, were you uncomfortable? Did you
feel weird in that moment or in any of the

(25:42):
moments of this episode? Because I felt weird for her.
These are all great questions that we need to ask her. Well,
why don't we take a break, because there's still more
in this episode. We haven't gotten to the dance routine
performance you'll put on and whether or not Dylan friend
are actually back together. First of all, you don't know me.

(26:13):
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(26:36):
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(26:59):
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I think Hayley would probably be I mean, she's got
to be close to an empty nuster now right like

(27:19):
um Jamie's out of the house. She might she might
be finally ready to live out those wild years that
you know what I mean, I think it might be time.
I'm going to say a lot of therapy. Peyton Sawyer
is in so much therapy right now, well not long ago.
I found my vote Brooke Davis for President Penn. I

(27:41):
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Queen's Drama Drawn MC Queen's Drama Queens. Okay, so we're back.
I have a question. I guess I should ask Christine

(28:47):
a lease this question. Did Christine no Jason before she
got the role of Emily Valentine? Do you know the answer?
Thank feel like she has answered this period. Yeah, I
thought she told us she did, because I want to know, like,
was that, Yeah, it was that. The first time they
met was on you know, day one of filming that episode,

(29:09):
because they started to they had a relationship. I want
I don't know. I don't remember if it was before
the show the episode, or if it happened like in
real time. It happened in real time. That's kind of cute.
I don't think they knew each other before, you guys,
but I don't know. We'll ask, but yeah, we gotta
ask her. I didn't know. I didn't right away. Didn't

(29:32):
feel that chemistry between Brandon and and Emily like I didn't.
You didn't feel it. I didn't m hm, did you know? No?
Never when they were together. Actually, to be honest, on
the show, the show, on the show, in real life,
they were together for years and it was just like
Jane Chriss. Yeah, like, but I think that was part

(29:53):
of the role because as a viewer, I remember not
liking their relationship with like she was a bad influence
on Brandon, right, you never actually wanted it to work out.
I think we're supposed to feel that intention or that
forcefulness of the relationship the whole time. But I still
didn't feel a chemistry. I didn't see the sparks hm
m m. I didn't feel it either, So it was

(30:15):
hard for me to be like, oh, maybe this is
a new love interest for him moving forward, because that's
what it is. And if she was there for twelve episodes,
then she and you know, I don't remember very well,
but we'll see in the future episodes, Like she's with
the group a lot all the time part of the
so I wonder if they the producers brought her in

(30:36):
to be the bad girl and too eventually like cause
problems or that this was like a yeah. I mean,
out of all of our guest stars, she's probably the
most well known aside from the original cast, and I
wonder why they didn't make her a regular. I mean
we find out later what I mean, it goes so

(30:58):
far that never mind, I don't spoil it if you
haven't seen it. But I know it's so hard to
spoil it, so hard. But you know, they always brought
bad girls on and then they stayed. Like Tiffany's character
Valerie was brought into be a bad girls, you know,
stir things up. Vanessa marcel Um was brought on to

(31:18):
do the same. So but they were all made regulars.
I wonder why Christine wasn't made a regular, especially when
she became so popular and iconic on the show. I
don't know. We have to ask her, because she did
end up writing a couple of the scripts for the show.
None of us ever wrote wrote any of the scripts,
so that's a huge accomplishment, Like that's a big deal.
Maybe she wanted to be a writer, and maybe she

(31:39):
didn't really want to be an actress. Who knows, but
she's still an actress and a writer. That's true, you
can be both things. How long would that take to
write an episode? I mean, who knows, I don't know.
We can out take me a long time, really, I
guess I don't know. I just never sat down and
tried to write an EPI port of a show. I

(32:01):
usually say somebody else do this. I'm not good at it.
Ye give my line. So the funny part is I
never knew it was her till after the show was off.
You never knew she was the one that wrote the episode. Now,
I was always like, you know, we had we had
it was one of our regular writers. Like I always
would see the name Christine McCarthy and I'm like, oh yeah,

(32:22):
but she wouldn't by Christina Leice as an actress. And
I never put two and two together. No one ever
said anything. I think I might have been right there
with you, you know what I mean, Like we eventually
found out, but I thought she was someone like right now,
I'm seeing Christine McCarthy and I it's she was read
like this red headed writer that we had on occasionally,

(32:43):
and that's who I thought it was. And I don't
remember that woman's name, yeah, but it was Christina. So anyways,
truly funny. Who knew How soon would you guys get
the script before you actually started shooting for it? Week before? Yeah,
sometimes maybe a week, sometimes a few days, sometimes the
day before. Really like there were we were. It was

(33:04):
all over the place. And later we started to panic
though when we didn't get the script in time, we'd
all be like, where's the script, when's it coming out?
What are we doing? And we have to prep And
in later seasons we went on to do read through,
so we would have it like the week before and
we'd be filming one episode and then on Monday we
would get it, do a read through during lunchtime, and

(33:26):
then they would go off and sometimes change the whole
script or make adjustments. But in the in the first seasons,
we didn't do any of that. We were just like
thrown in, like and does the read through help? Assuming Yeah,
having a read through it does help. It just helps
to hear the whole thing outlet. I'm curious about this.

(33:48):
So you guys would wrap an episode and then you
get the script for the next one or were they overlap.
Sometimes they would overlap. You'd get the script for the
next episode before you were done filming. Confusing for so
then then like the wardrobe people and uh, you know,
the props and the set dressers and the location people
all have time to get that ready while they're filming

(34:11):
the previous episode. Brains, I'm just so hard. That's why
we're messed up now. We we just taxed our brains.
Were two tax it's like going to two different directions
at one point. Wow, did you always read them Jen,
like right when you got it? Like I I feel

(34:31):
like I did the first like a couple of seasons,
but then like as it went on, things got more
and more hectic. I didn't always read them like as
soon as they were there. I just remember just that
I love that smell, in that feeling of a hot
script off the right off the printer, hot off the presses,

(34:52):
And I can just remember when you got it and
it was hot, You're like, oh, what's to feel it?
Like energy about it? And I used to just um,
you know when like you said, it wasn't a lot
of time, so I didn't couldn't sit and read it
from start to finish, but I would literally like go
through and find Kelly Kelly, Kelly, Kelly Kelly, like find
out what my character was doing and how I had

(35:12):
to wrap my head around that and like, you know,
tried it because you want your character to have like
some sort of consistency. Yeah, and it's hard to do
when there's new writers and it's you know, always different.
But I remember the hot off the presses scripts. I
love those. Do you guys, remember who choreographed the dance

(35:35):
for this episode, because you guys didn't a few weeks
ago when you were trying to remember, I still don't,
but it was one of you. You don't know who
supposedly me, I don't know, someone right, someone let us know.

(35:55):
I'm sure one of the fans knows. Somebody must remember.
I don't remember. We were referencing like Arnold No, not
Arnold Palmer, Robert Palmer's Ard Palmer. Please, um, when we
were referencing the song that wasn't even in the show

(36:16):
that I watched, because I watched it on Pluto, which
drove me in saying, because there's way too many commercials people. Uh,
but the song, it wasn't the song. Wait, it wasn't plutes.
We were supposed to do like Robert the Robert Plant song. Sorry,
Robert Plant Palmer, I don't know. We were supposed to
look like the Robert Palmer girls from that one video. Yes, yeah,

(36:39):
and then and then we sang a completely different song.
I was very confused. And that's not the one that
aired thirty years ago. They didn't have that song in
the beginning because they referenced I think even Donna makes
a reference saying I want to be addicted to love
or something. I think this song was addicted to Love,
but that wasn't in the episod it that I watched. No.

(37:02):
Emily makes an announcement at the very end of the
episode and says, we were going to do it different,
changing and they changed it to be something more appropriate
for freshman or something like that, and it was breaking
up is hard to do. But was that? Now I'm tripping, like,
did you guys kill something else? No, because I have
the cassette tape still, remember I think I told you

(37:23):
guys this the cassette tape of breaking up is hard
to do. So we could lip sync it, okay, because
there wasn't even us sing, but because it made sense.
It was all about the what happened in the episode
about how Dylan and Brenda were breaking up. But yeah,
I don't think we were ever supposed to sing the
addicted to Love song, but for some reason they styled
us like because we're gonna do it, and did you

(37:47):
guys got watched the episode. It never explained why we
dressed like that, Like we just all show up in
that get up with no explanation. There is an explanation.
I don't remember an explanation. There is an explanation. Have
you guys get on stage and Emily makes an announcement
we were going to do a different song and we

(38:09):
decided to change. Yeah. I didn't listen to that. I
don't know. Instracted by their outfits, I was like, why
are they wearing that so embarrassing when we don't know
what's happening and we were in it it was thirty
years ago. But also, I mean, this is another like

(38:34):
Brenda was vicious, like an alley cat with her, like
she was really intense. I can see how she would
be upset though. Yeah, yeah, I mean I got I
just wish she would have said something right away, like
when they were sitting there and Emily said it, I
met this really nat guy or whatever she said. Brenda,

(38:58):
she didn't say anything. She just kind of clammed up.
But I wish somebody would have let Emily in on
the on the scorecard at that point, right, really made
for less confrontation. I think it wasn't until she tells
everybody she's going to the guy no to get on
the pill she really breaks out. Yeah, Brenda was not

(39:22):
having it and Emily sang, but never sing again on
the show. That was it? Another question, was that her singing? Yes,
curious they say it wasn't It was none of us
actually saying. We were all voice like doing lip syncing,
but it sounded just like her. I feel like when
she picked up the guitar and sang, that was her,

(39:43):
but on stage the final performance was not her. I'm confused.
It's even very produced. Yeah, well, she looked really cute
that outfit though. I love the hat. I love that
little little baby doll pink thing. The biker shorts and
the fishnets and the boots, the whole thing is probably
all hers. Yeah you think, Yeah, I mean not just

(40:04):
because we have found out now the guest stars had
to bring in their own clothes, but because she basically
created that's the you know, she created that character's look
because that was her look. So I'm guessing a lot
of the stuff was hers. Also, the David and Scott
stuff was kind of like, WHOA, what's happening before that

(40:26):
happens when you come back to school. You kind of
grow apart from people that used to be really close
with for whatever reasons. But I feel like something's brewing
what they're introducing, the fireworks with Scott and the gun,
the the whole gun obsession. Yeah, something's brewing, all right,

(40:49):
something's coming. I mean we know what it is because
it was such a big episode. When does that happen?
When does that episode come? It's this season right, scared
for it? I really hate that, I know, But at
least for once on the show, they're setting their foreshadowing something,
because sometimes things just happen and all of a sudden

(41:10):
underwhere Yeah, at the beginning of the episode, the person
has all these characteristics they've never had. They're talking about stuff,
and it's gonna lead to something that's gonna happen by
the end of the episode. At least now they're starting
to kind of put it into the storyline that something's
happening this season and when it's coming up. Yeah, that's

(41:31):
not we don't want to spoil it, but I actually
do remember that episode unfortunately. But does do you think
that that happens like when I didn't happen with you
when you're in high school, or does it still happen
with friendships like when you don't see each other for
a long time, or when you guys are all doing
different things. Like I know, as a like grown woman,

(41:52):
like when somebody has a baby and you're not really
you're not having a baby, and you kind of have
different interests and like your lives are going in kind
of different directions. It's so sad to see friendships kind
of get divided like that. Definitely, I feel like it
does happen, like during those formative years. More Like, for instance,

(42:15):
if you and I weren't to see each other, let's
say for a year, we would see each other and
pick right back up where we left off because we
have that friendship and we've grown together and evolved. But
when you're young, yeah, you're changing. He's going into a
different friend group and Scott's kind of staying behind. They
have different interests. Like I feel like that totally happens,
and it's really sad. I mean, for instance, I didn't

(42:37):
have the same friends I had in seventh grade. I
didn't have by the time I got into high school,
Like they changed same and it was all due to interest.
And then if you get a boyfriend, forget it, then
it's this whole month and spend all your time with them.
And now my oldest daughter has a boyfriend now our

(42:57):
first like serious boyfriend, and she's just like her energy
is so different though. You can tell she's thinking about
someone else now when all before she was so present
with us and like, you know, all about us, And
now it's just different when when they get boyfriends. Oh

(43:20):
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(45:30):
talk fashion, you guys. This episode I felt stepped it
up a little bit for the ladies that everybody was
trying dressed to impress for their back to school looks. Definitely.
I remember when I could wear vertical stripes like that
black and white dress I wore. Those were the days
and I didn't even appreciate vertical stripes. Could you wear

(45:53):
horizontal stripes? Vertical is the one, the friendly one, isn't it? Yeah?
An elongates, so horizontal it was the horizontal. I wouldn't
dare wear a stripe period. Now I'm just going diagonal.
I'm not wearing stripes. But okay, no, no, you look
at it, a little pin stripe. I like pin stripes.

(46:14):
You're right, okay, not good point. Yeah, so you loved
your We all love your stripe dress. It was like
an inmate outfit, but super cute. Yeah, oh my gosh.
And we've already talked about the Robert Palmer outfits. Those
the black dresses. Now were those dresses because we re

(46:36):
sort of replicated this whole situation on Bhin and we
had to have those dresses made for the three girls.
Um do you remember, But not for the reason you
might think, you guys, only because we were in Canada
and Mandy we couldn't find them, right, A dress like that, right,

(46:57):
a black dress with sleeves. It's a tight little black dress.
But I, oh my gosh, it was. I definitely felt
like the pressure of like the comparison of being back
in that dress. Like back then it was like, oh,
care free, and you know, this time I had like
five pairs of spanks on and I was like, oh

(47:19):
my god, how does my body look? My butts so
much bigger now? Um? Yeah, it was just I had
to wear my hair different. Like back then it was
all slicked back, which I was not comfortable with. Even then,
I hated my hair off my face. But you didn't
say anything by insane anything right exactly me. Back then,
I was like okay and just like silently crying in

(47:41):
my trailer, um, not feeling good about myself. But then, yeah,
with this one, Shannon and I both wore the middle
parts and the hair back in the recreation, you still
pull it off, though you still rock the slick hair back.
You had it everybody did, I think everybody. It's weird
to see everybody with their hair slicked back, no matter what,

(48:02):
when you're used to seeing them with their hair poofy
and down. But so it takes a second. But I
thought everyone looked great in that. And I also really
loved um uh the blazer that killed the red, the
red blazer that Kelly was wearing. I just feel like
that blazer. I've seen it in a million pictures. That's
sort of like one of her stand out, most memorable

(48:24):
yeah jackets. And I also feel the same way about
Brenda's a little outfit with the She's kind of Annie
Annie oak laid out, you know, like, is it Oakley,
Annie Oakley, Hall, Annie Hall Today, Arnold Bomber. Nope, listen, listen.

(48:47):
The graduation party went late, okay. And that's the look
she recreated for the Brenda look. That's right, the tie
world tie thing, big brown, like your grandpa wears tie.
And then in a striped shirt. She looked cute. Though
I like that look, I don't know where it came from,

(49:08):
like that was gonna be her new look for Brenda
for the season maybe, but that was in, right, it
was I don't remember that being in and that definitely
didn't come back when the nineties came back, this time
with trends. But it was super cute. It was not
just like her jam oh you're right, ties were in,
girls were wearing it, or maybe she started it. Maybe

(49:30):
her character is what started the trend because it was
the case I think a lot. Yeah, you know, okay,
let's go with any whatever it was, she looked cute. Yeah.
Who had a favorite line from this episode nine oh
to one? No, you didn't, um I like David's cool
it with the guns? Would you? Oh? Cool it just cool?

(49:52):
It's trying to tell more about cool it, like yeah,
like you know, now we wouldn't say like cool it
would be like, oh, can you not talk so much
about guns? Like the whole thing cool cool it with
the guns. On that note, you know, when Scott tells David,
uh not everyone has your taste, and then David admits
to Scott like even though when he played that song,

(50:13):
he was just like it turns out a couple of
people actually liked it. But then he like, you didn't
have to tell Scott that I think it was nice
that they included it in the in the script just
to kind of like you did it wasn't terrible what
you did, but also don't do it again. Yeah, yeah,
of course, Scott, it's so bad. It's just so darn

(50:38):
cute in that cowboy hout and the whole little outfit.
He came back from Montana with I know what happens
on vacations sometimes. Yeah, I mean I did. I felt
like he was all alone, though I really felt bad him.
I would say my favorite line was probably your line
when you said I wish I was addicted to love. Oh,

(51:02):
there are a few questions. One is from Alicia. I
love the references Arsenio Hall right out the gate, so
it's just a throwback, she says. Recently, I saw an
old Arsenio Hall interview with Luke Perry on YouTube. Luke
talked about how the show's producers had talked about had
talked about bringing Vivica Fox onto the cast as a regular,

(51:24):
and that he and Vivica's characters were supposed to have
a love story on the show. I remember there was
a slight tension between Vivica's character and Brandon, but it
sounded like they were going to switch to Dylan. Do
you ladies remember any talk about this. If so, how
do you think everything would have panned out? I mean,
here's the funny thing that she's asking about Vivica Fox's

(51:48):
character who comes in in the next episode. Well, I
was trying to watch our show this week on Hulu
and it's another one of those missing episodes, and so
I started actually the next episode, Ashes the Ashes, which
is the one Vivica foxes, and so I just watched
it this morning. He was so great, Like I don't know,

(52:09):
I don't know about any of the talks or anything.
I wasn't privy to any of that, but like, she
was so good on the show. What a strong, like
beautiful female character that was. I loved it. I wish
that she would stayed stayed around. And I don't remember
the story, but I know that they were supposed to
be recurring, like that family was supposed to move in

(52:30):
and she was supposed I thought it was a love
interest for Brandon going forward, but they were supposed to
be on for the season. I'm not sure what. I
don't know what happened. Another text for you to write
to Darren's Yeah, I know Luke uh, he loved Vivica
Fox and he I think Luke went on to work
with her again on something else, and I know that

(52:51):
they had a good friendship. A rat next one, Rebecca.
She's saying, I really enjoyed your recent conversation with Matthew.
Lawrence went to Aloray asked him about what it was
like working on Saturday Night Live. It got me thinking
about the episode Jason priestly hosted in and the nine
O two and no sketch they did. I always wondered

(53:11):
how you all felt about being portrayed in a comedic way.
Were you able to laugh at yourselves or were you
offended at all? Did this cause any drama between the cast?
This is terrible. I have no idea what she's talking about.
I don't remember him hosting s n L. I don't
definitely don't remember there being a night of two and sketch.

(53:33):
Now I want to see it. I don't. No, we
have to pull it up. Um should we pull it up?
Should Saturday Night Live went on to do a sketch
of me and they did, oh yeah, But I was like, yeah,
it was like me being in my daddy's house and
it was the girl that played Jan Brady, and she

(53:54):
would always do it and I'd be like, that sounds
nothing like me. But I really enjoyed the sketch and
I would actually imitate her imitating me some times, which
I can't do now, but I wonder if she played
me in that sketch. Anyways, Okay, yeah, we're we're real. Sorry, Rebecca,
We're not no help on this question at all. But
so is Jason Priestly the only one out of the

(54:15):
cast that got to host s n L. Anybody else didn't? Shannon,
I don't know, didn't Luke. I'm not sure me neither.
Is that something you guys would ever want to do?
It's on my bucket list. I don't think it's going
to happen at this point. What are you talking about
host SNL? You guys can host us any who can?

(54:36):
Oh yeah, but i'd have to make real big news.
You better get going. She's like, let's let's hold off
on that. I feel like it would be so nerve
racking but also very rewarding and fulfilling at the same time. Yeah,

(54:58):
it looks like it would be fun and just like
one scene, just like a line. It would have been
cool if you guys did it like the third year universary,
that would have been cool. All right, we have some homework.
We'll see if we can find that clip um for
next week, and you guys can watch it for I
guess for the first time and see if you're offended,

(55:22):
and see if you're offended. But next episode is an
episode nine Ashes Dashes, and since I've watched half of it,
I know it's exciting. So you guys gotta watch it
and know what happens you got halfway into it and
then realize this isn't the wrong one. Yeah. Yeah, and
then with the whole commercials and the Pluto thing. If

(55:42):
you noticed, if you watch it on Pluto, you can't
fast forward at all ever, and if you accidentally hit
fast forward or pause while it's playing, it sends you
back to like the beginning or like reading. So I
saw the geinning of the next episode several times. Yeah,

(56:03):
but now Ashes Ashes is on Amazon Prime or Hulu,
So we're back in the game, back in the business.
Thank goodness, back to you got it? Yeah yeah, he's
get it right. Okay, guys, Well that is another dazzling
episode of not or two. I know m g we

(56:25):
hope that you all have a great week. I could
do it. I could do it. That was your that
was your audition scene for that's the news. Good job,
thank you all right, guys, have a good week. Everybody
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