December 1, 2024 • 13 mins
Minnesota Tim discusses the impressive performance of Minnesota Vikings quarterback Sam Darnold, especially in comparison to Kirk Cousins. He highlights Darnold's statistics, his ability to lead the team to victories, and the potential implications for his future with the Vikings. The conversation also touches on the challenges Darnold faced and the decisions he may need to make regarding his contract and career moving forward.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
A topic that might be a little solre for some people,
but needs to be addressed Following the Minnesota Vikings advancement
to ten and two is the play of Vikings quarterback
Sam Donald, because he's got through peaks and valleys this year,
(00:30):
like most of the league except for you know, the.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Top, top, top, top echelon of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But I think at this point in the year it
is fair to say that Sam Donald has been way better.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Than advertised, way better than Kirk Cousins, and has the
Minnesota Vikings and legitimate NFC North contention. Following the Vikings
victory over the Arizona Cardinals which got them to ten
(01:12):
and two, Sam Darnold versus the Arizona Cardinals slow in
the first half, sacked a lot, the rush was getting them,
took five sacks for thirty yards, goes twenty one for
thirty one two one hundred and thirty five yards, two touchdowns,
(01:38):
and most importantly in that second half when they needed
touchdowns and field goals to come back from nineteen six
zero touchdowns, he was threading the needle to JJ Jets
Addison Hockinson found a Jones for the game winning touchdown
(02:04):
and Kirk Cousins goes zero touchdowns four picks against the
Los Angeles Chargers in a game the Atlanta Falcons lost
seventeen to thirteen. Statistically, following this game, Football Reference has
(02:30):
not updated the stats. Before the game, Kirk Cousins had
seventeen touchdowns to nine interceptions.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Says the record is six and five. They're six and
six now. They've played in twelve games.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Now he has seventeen touchdowns thirteen interceptions. Sam Darnold following
the Vikings victory over the Arizona Cardinals. Entering this game,
Sam Donald had twenty one touchdowns ten picks and now
(03:11):
has twenty three touchdowns ten picks. Donald has six more
touchdowns than Kirk Cousins throwing, and has several less interceptions
and is way less money.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Sure, we might be paying a little dead cap on
Kirk Cousins's contract, but we're off that at the end
of the year and a.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Whole bunch of cast bass freeze up. Sam Donald has been.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Tons better than Kirk Cousins this season and has been
way better than advertised. It's hard not to compare the
quarterbacks because the Vikings could have gone two directions. We
assigned Kirk Cousins, give him the money he wants, bringing
a rookie quarterback, trying to figure that out or lay
it all on the table. Hey, Kirk, if you want
(04:01):
to come back, it's a two year deal. If not,
we're gonna go get Sam Donald. Kirk didn't want that.
He wanted to guaranteed Dallas from Atlanta. Hey, good for him.
Many most all would have probably done the same. But
you cannot give the Minnesota Vikings enough credit for going
(04:27):
the direction that they went, because many franchises would have
kept Kirk Cousins and.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Said, you know what, we just need to keep them.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
He keeps us relevant, He keeps us competitive, He gives
us a chance, especially after going thirteen and four and
then being a red hot with him and his second
season under Kevin O'Connell until he went down with that Achilles' tear.
So in a game where Cousins goes over four Siero touchdowns,
(04:56):
four picks, Sam Donald's threading the needle to Jefferson and
Addison in a comeback victory where the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Are down nineteen to six late in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And has the Minnesota Vikings propelled the Minnesota Vikings to
a ten and two overall record. Check out this stat
This was posted by Will Reggitts, and this stat shows
you just how amazing Sam Donald has been this year
(05:33):
for the Vikings. Donald is now tied with two thousand
and nine Brett Favre and two thousand Dante Culpeper for
the most games ten with a one hundred plus passer
rating by a Vikings quarterback in a single season, and
there's still five games left of the year. Sam Donald
(05:55):
is statistically having one of the.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Best overall quarterbacking seasons for the Minnesota Vikings, not in
the last two.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Years, but in franchise history. And I can't help but
think that Sam Darnald is not getting the amount of
love that Sam Donald deserves because his name is Sam Darnald.
He has a reputation for failing at the Jets, failing
(06:25):
at the Panthers, failing being a backup at the forty
nine ers. Now it's the Vikings one year contract. He's
not that superstar sexy guy that people want to talk
about in praise. He's got twenty three touchdowns, ten picks
this year. He's got ten games this season for the
Minnesota Vikings, where they passer rating over one hundred plus.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Kirk Cousins never.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Did that in the six years on the Vikings. And
he's out playing Kirk Cousins. Yeah, people want to Kirk Cousins, this,
Kirk Cousins that. What about Kirk Cousins. Can we just
talk about how incredible Sam Donald has been for the
Vikings this year, because he has the Vikings at ten
and two, and co Conna deserves credit, the Vikings organization
(07:09):
deserves credit, but Sam Donald also deserves credit. Did he
have a bad game that versus the Jaggers, Yes, three pegs,
zero touchdowns, mostly in the red zone. Lah does still
need to prove it the rest of the season and
then the playoffs. Yes, but as of right now, the
ten and two Minnesota Vikings think about this, The worst
(07:30):
possible record they can have right now is ten and seven.
They were over under with six and a half entering
this season. Sam, I am Sam the Great. Sam the
Man has been out playing everybody's expectations this year, has
(07:52):
the Minnesota Vikings ten and two, is out playing Kirk Cousins,
And I don't think anyone wants to necessarily, and I'm
not elevating him to a top five quarterback in the league.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's not what I'm doing here. But I am calling
Sam Donald's play for the Minnesota Vikings this season great.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
He's not my homes He's not Josh Allen. Certainly better
than Kirk Cousins this year. It's definitely not bottom five,
he's not top five. But Sam Donald this season for
the Minnesota Vikings, game seiling driver versus Sam Fran, game
ceiling driver versus Green Bay, game ceiling drive versus New
(08:38):
York all when the game was on the line, okay,
had the Minnesota Vikings up versus Detroit until they hit
a last second field goal put Indian Apples away in
the second half, had a good game versus Tennessee, fantastic
game against Chicago, game winning drive.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
There, game ceiling drive, and.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It come back, game winning drive down nineteen to six
late second half, when there's no momentum, no rhythm, no feel,
nothing's going to the Vikings direction. They pull it out
twenty three to twenty two versus the Arizona Cardinals. If
Kirk Cousins out there getting all this guaranteed money and
(09:23):
Falcons are six and six and one of the worst
divisions football, and the Buccaneers are right on their heels.
They play the Panthers right now, they could be tied
for first place in that division.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And you like get Sam Donald. And of course the.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Questions are will the Vikings routinea them, will they keep them?
And it's like I keep on going back and forth.
Sam Donald could sign a two year contract with the
Vikings and stay in Minnesota, stay with the team that
made him a successful QB one in the NFL. But
(09:57):
if you're Sam Donald and you're Sam Donald's agent, you
only have a few few, maybe one moment to capitalize
on a big contract. Okay, and he capitalize on his
rookie contract, he's like the third overall pads a big contract.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But following that, you only have one available option.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
This is Sam Darnold for one big contract and that
contract is now, and when that happens, you need to
take the splash. He's not returning to the Minnesota Vikings
next year because he knows it. He has one bad
year and that's forfeiting like sixty seventy million dollars Bikings
gonda bring him back for like fifteen million a year
(10:45):
twenty but sign somewhere else. You're talk about like a
three or four year deal thirty million dollar forty million
dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You're not forfeiting that amount of money.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's not like he's a a homes where it's like, Okay,
you know, I'm gonna be great next year too, and
we're gonna win this Super Bowl again, So I'll decide
that next year. This is a one time deal for
Sam Donald. A guy who's on his fourth team in
seven years in the NFL has the opportunity to splash,
and now he can. So you'll sign somewhere else this offseason.
(11:15):
You can bank that and receive the guaranteed money that
he deserves. After leading the Minnesota Vikings to a comeback
thrilling win over the Cardinals and it's out playing Kirk Cousins.
The only issue is his name is Sam Donald, and
he already has a reputation of all. He's Sam Donald.
(11:37):
He's wild, he's a erratic, he's crazy that he can't
trust him. He has the Vikings tended to right on
the heels of the Detroit Lions. Who's most people are
calling the Super Bowl favors. Oddsmakers are calling the Detroit
Lions Super Bowl favorites. Right now, they needed a last
second field goal to defeat the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I'm not called the Vikings super Bowl favorites or a
super Bowl, but I'm just saying fact. These are just
the facts. Right now.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
The Vikings are on the heels of the Lions. The
Lions needed a field goal to be the Lions of
the Vikings late, and Sam Donald delivers again and a
win versus the Arizona Cardinals twenty three, twenty two in
a game where he was getting obliterated because the oppositive
(12:28):
line couldn't protect him Vikings ten and two, and.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Sam Donald following the game says, and this gets interesting,
there's no place out of rather play. Just so grateful
to be a Viking. Came from the Purple.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Persuasion Twitter, cause it's intriguing. There's no place out of
rather play, just so grateful to be a Viking.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Does he take one of those hometown discounts because he's
not a hometown kid, which makes no sense to be
able to call it a hometown discount to stay with
a team that made him successful. Things are getting spicy.
I don't think he does.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
How can he do that when this is his one time,
one chance to really blow his.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Forever life savings out of the water, but bigger things.
Darnold ten and to Vikings tend in to and out
playing Kirk cousins.
A topic that might be a little solre for some people,
but needs to be addressed Following the Minnesota Vikings advancement
to ten and two is the play of Vikings quarterback
Sam Donald, because he's got through peaks and valleys this year,
(00:30):
like most of the league except for you know, the.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Top, top, top, top echelon of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But I think at this point in the year it
is fair to say that Sam Donald has been way better.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Than advertised, way better than Kirk Cousins, and has the
Minnesota Vikings and legitimate NFC North contention. Following the Vikings
victory over the Arizona Cardinals which got them to ten
(01:12):
and two, Sam Darnold versus the Arizona Cardinals slow in
the first half, sacked a lot, the rush was getting them,
took five sacks for thirty yards, goes twenty one for
thirty one two one hundred and thirty five yards, two touchdowns,
(01:38):
and most importantly in that second half when they needed
touchdowns and field goals to come back from nineteen six
zero touchdowns, he was threading the needle to JJ Jets
Addison Hockinson found a Jones for the game winning touchdown
(02:04):
and Kirk Cousins goes zero touchdowns four picks against the
Los Angeles Chargers in a game the Atlanta Falcons lost
seventeen to thirteen. Statistically, following this game, Football Reference has
(02:30):
not updated the stats. Before the game, Kirk Cousins had
seventeen touchdowns to nine interceptions.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Says the record is six and five. They're six and
six now. They've played in twelve games.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Now he has seventeen touchdowns thirteen interceptions. Sam Darnold following
the Vikings victory over the Arizona Cardinals. Entering this game,
Sam Donald had twenty one touchdowns ten picks and now
(03:11):
has twenty three touchdowns ten picks. Donald has six more
touchdowns than Kirk Cousins throwing, and has several less interceptions
and is way less money.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Sure, we might be paying a little dead cap on
Kirk Cousins's contract, but we're off that at the end
of the year and a.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Whole bunch of cast bass freeze up. Sam Donald has been.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Tons better than Kirk Cousins this season and has been
way better than advertised. It's hard not to compare the
quarterbacks because the Vikings could have gone two directions. We
assigned Kirk Cousins, give him the money he wants, bringing
a rookie quarterback, trying to figure that out or lay
it all on the table. Hey, Kirk, if you want
(04:01):
to come back, it's a two year deal. If not,
we're gonna go get Sam Donald. Kirk didn't want that.
He wanted to guaranteed Dallas from Atlanta. Hey, good for him.
Many most all would have probably done the same. But
you cannot give the Minnesota Vikings enough credit for going
(04:27):
the direction that they went, because many franchises would have
kept Kirk Cousins and.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Said, you know what, we just need to keep them.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
He keeps us relevant, He keeps us competitive, He gives
us a chance, especially after going thirteen and four and
then being a red hot with him and his second
season under Kevin O'Connell until he went down with that Achilles' tear.
So in a game where Cousins goes over four Siero touchdowns,
(04:56):
four picks, Sam Donald's threading the needle to Jefferson and
Addison in a comeback victory where the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Are down nineteen to six late in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And has the Minnesota Vikings propelled the Minnesota Vikings to
a ten and two overall record. Check out this stat
This was posted by Will Reggitts, and this stat shows
you just how amazing Sam Donald has been this year
(05:33):
for the Vikings. Donald is now tied with two thousand
and nine Brett Favre and two thousand Dante Culpeper for
the most games ten with a one hundred plus passer
rating by a Vikings quarterback in a single season, and
there's still five games left of the year. Sam Donald
(05:55):
is statistically having one of the.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Best overall quarterbacking seasons for the Minnesota Vikings, not in
the last two.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Years, but in franchise history. And I can't help but
think that Sam Darnald is not getting the amount of
love that Sam Donald deserves because his name is Sam Darnald.
He has a reputation for failing at the Jets, failing
(06:25):
at the Panthers, failing being a backup at the forty
nine ers. Now it's the Vikings one year contract. He's
not that superstar sexy guy that people want to talk
about in praise. He's got twenty three touchdowns, ten picks
this year. He's got ten games this season for the
Minnesota Vikings, where they passer rating over one hundred plus.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Kirk Cousins never.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Did that in the six years on the Vikings. And
he's out playing Kirk Cousins. Yeah, people want to Kirk Cousins, this,
Kirk Cousins that. What about Kirk Cousins. Can we just
talk about how incredible Sam Donald has been for the
Vikings this year, because he has the Vikings at ten
and two, and co Conna deserves credit, the Vikings organization
(07:09):
deserves credit, but Sam Donald also deserves credit. Did he
have a bad game that versus the Jaggers, Yes, three pegs,
zero touchdowns, mostly in the red zone. Lah does still
need to prove it the rest of the season and
then the playoffs. Yes, but as of right now, the
ten and two Minnesota Vikings think about this, The worst
(07:30):
possible record they can have right now is ten and seven.
They were over under with six and a half entering
this season. Sam, I am Sam the Great. Sam the
Man has been out playing everybody's expectations this year, has
(07:52):
the Minnesota Vikings ten and two, is out playing Kirk Cousins,
And I don't think anyone wants to necessarily, and I'm
not elevating him to a top five quarterback in the league.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's not what I'm doing here. But I am calling
Sam Donald's play for the Minnesota Vikings this season great.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
He's not my homes He's not Josh Allen. Certainly better
than Kirk Cousins this year. It's definitely not bottom five,
he's not top five. But Sam Donald this season for
the Minnesota Vikings, game seiling driver versus Sam Fran, game
ceiling driver versus Green Bay, game ceiling drive versus New
(08:38):
York all when the game was on the line, okay,
had the Minnesota Vikings up versus Detroit until they hit
a last second field goal put Indian Apples away in
the second half, had a good game versus Tennessee, fantastic
game against Chicago, game winning drive.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
There, game ceiling drive, and.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It come back, game winning drive down nineteen to six
late second half, when there's no momentum, no rhythm, no feel,
nothing's going to the Vikings direction. They pull it out
twenty three to twenty two versus the Arizona Cardinals. If
Kirk Cousins out there getting all this guaranteed money and
(09:23):
Falcons are six and six and one of the worst
divisions football, and the Buccaneers are right on their heels.
They play the Panthers right now, they could be tied
for first place in that division.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And you like get Sam Donald. And of course the.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Questions are will the Vikings routinea them, will they keep them?
And it's like I keep on going back and forth.
Sam Donald could sign a two year contract with the
Vikings and stay in Minnesota, stay with the team that
made him a successful QB one in the NFL. But
(09:57):
if you're Sam Donald and you're Sam Donald's agent, you
only have a few few, maybe one moment to capitalize
on a big contract. Okay, and he capitalize on his
rookie contract, he's like the third overall pads a big contract.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But following that, you only have one available option.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
This is Sam Darnold for one big contract and that
contract is now, and when that happens, you need to
take the splash. He's not returning to the Minnesota Vikings
next year because he knows it. He has one bad
year and that's forfeiting like sixty seventy million dollars Bikings
gonda bring him back for like fifteen million a year
(10:45):
twenty but sign somewhere else. You're talk about like a
three or four year deal thirty million dollar forty million
dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You're not forfeiting that amount of money.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's not like he's a a homes where it's like, Okay,
you know, I'm gonna be great next year too, and
we're gonna win this Super Bowl again, So I'll decide
that next year. This is a one time deal for
Sam Donald. A guy who's on his fourth team in
seven years in the NFL has the opportunity to splash,
and now he can. So you'll sign somewhere else this offseason.
(11:15):
You can bank that and receive the guaranteed money that
he deserves. After leading the Minnesota Vikings to a comeback
thrilling win over the Cardinals and it's out playing Kirk Cousins.
The only issue is his name is Sam Donald, and
he already has a reputation of all. He's Sam Donald.
(11:37):
He's wild, he's a erratic, he's crazy that he can't
trust him. He has the Vikings tended to right on
the heels of the Detroit Lions. Who's most people are
calling the Super Bowl favors. Oddsmakers are calling the Detroit
Lions Super Bowl favorites. Right now, they needed a last
second field goal to defeat the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I'm not called the Vikings super Bowl favorites or a
super Bowl, but I'm just saying fact. These are just
the facts. Right now.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
The Vikings are on the heels of the Lions. The
Lions needed a field goal to be the Lions of
the Vikings late, and Sam Donald delivers again and a
win versus the Arizona Cardinals twenty three, twenty two in
a game where he was getting obliterated because the oppositive
(12:28):
line couldn't protect him Vikings ten and two, and.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Sam Donald following the game says, and this gets interesting,
there's no place out of rather play. Just so grateful
to be a Viking. Came from the Purple.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Persuasion Twitter, cause it's intriguing. There's no place out of
rather play, just so grateful to be a Viking.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Does he take one of those hometown discounts because he's
not a hometown kid, which makes no sense to be
able to call it a hometown discount to stay with
a team that made him successful. Things are getting spicy.
I don't think he does.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
How can he do that when this is his one time,
one chance to really blow his.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Forever life savings out of the water, but bigger things.
Darnold ten and to Vikings tend in to and out
playing Kirk cousins.
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