June 12, 2025 • 31 mins
In this conversation, Ryan interviews Spencer Lindquist, an investigative journalist with the Daily Wire, about the riots in Los Angeles. They discuss the organic and organized aspects of the protests, the involvement of radical organizations like La Raza, and the violence and tactics used during these events. Lindquist highlights the goals of these groups, their support within the Latino community, and the funding behind their activities. It's a Numbers Game is art of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to a Numbers Game podcast of Ryan Gerdowski.
Thank you all for being here again for this Thursday episode.
Before I bring up my main topic about the LA riots,
I want to talk with some quick numbers for my
audience to chew. On Tuesday was the primary in New
Jersey's governor's race. This is one of two governor's races
happening this year or the other in Virginia, Democratic Congssman
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Mickey Cheryl was the victor and her party's primary. She
won thirty four percent in a record high election. Was
a very crowded feel full of very highly qualified Democrats,
while the former Republican nominee from twenty twenty one, Jack Chittarelli,
won the GOP primary, taking about sixty eight percent of
the vote, very impressive. Chittarelli won every county in the state.
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He was easily the favorite. Ironically, it was a very
high turnout for his primary as well, even though he
basically had locked up the nomination weeks ago. Cheryl once
again had a packed feel full of opponents and she
was running basically second. In every single came counties she
won either first or second, so that's how she was
able to beat out everybody. There was pockets that it
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supported a state senator in the south, in southern Jersey,
there was pockets that supported mayors over in the suburbs
of New York. So she managed to win. Where she
didn't win first place, she won second place everywhere, powering
her victory. So it's really exciting for both those campaigns.
Cheryl had also the backing of county parties, which in
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New Jersey really means something because it's one of the
last few states that really has a machine infrastructure. And
she was also supported by a pack called Emily's List,
as well as several former Democratic governors of the state. Okay,
let me talk about the numbers of the state ahead
of the general election. And I'm going to talk about
this election again before November, but it's because it's, you know,
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one of only two, so we're going to be talking
about it. Democrats sat up this race with an eight
hundred and twenty seven thousand person voter advantage. There's eight
hundred and twenty seven thousand more registered Democrats than Republicans
in the Garden State. So that strength means that they're
going in this as the favorite. They have the advantage
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walking into this, but the strength of the Democratic Party
in New Jersey is not what it used to be. Obviously,
everyone was surprised that Trump managed to get within six
points of winning New Jersey and Chittarelli was in three
points of winning the governorship back in twenty twenty one.
Back in twenty twenty, right before the last governor's race,
Democrats had a one point zero two seven million, almost
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one million, thirty thousand person voter advantage. They lost about
two hundred thousand net voters to Republicans since the last election,
and they only won the last election by eighty four
thousand votes. So why Republicans have a real chance to
win the Garden State for the first time since since
Chris Christie back in I think tw and nine twenty thirteen,
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that was his reelectionlic have done a steady job at
decreasing democrats voter advantage every month for four years. For
every month for the last four years, there have been
more new registered Republicans regis Democrats. Since December twenty twenty,
Republicans have gained a net one hundred and seventy nine
thousand new registered voters, while Democrats have lost about seventy
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three thousand voters. The other big thing in New Jersey
why this is different than the last government election is
there are more registered independents than Democrats in the state.
All told, the state has about two point five million independents,
two point four to five million Democrats, and one point
sixty two million Republicans. Whoever can win a broad selection
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of independence wins the governor's mansion. And once again, I'll
be back about New Jersey later on the year. We'll
talk about polling data when it comes out. There's like
essentially no polling data right now, so I'll talk about
it as it comes out. As we have more information.
Maybe I can get some of the campaigns on I
would love to sit there and even here from Democrats
about they're feeling in the Garden State because they've definitely
lost traction in a state that they needed. Jersey ever
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becomes a real swing state like the way Georgia is
or Nevada, and Republicans can win it. Democrats are in
trouble nationwide. Remember, Jersey has been a consistent Democrats states
since nineteen ninety two, but from nineteen sixty eight to
nineteen eighty eight it was a reliably Republican state. So
it's not like it's unheard of that they're a party
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that their state would be in contention. Okay, So now
for the main topic of the show, I want to
talk about LA. At the height of the George Floyd riots,
it was known as the Summer of Love. Well, five
years later, summer twenty twenty five, it can be known
as the Summer of Ice. Anti immigration and force and
rights have broken out in several major cities, including New York, Atlanta,
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San Diego, Minneapolis, Glendeal, Arizona, San Francisco, San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Chicago,
and La. The riots in LA have set parts of
the city of blaze and have become the epicenter of
the anti immigrant riots in the country. It all began
on June sixth, when immigration officers executed a search warrant.
This is important because a federal judge from Los Angeles
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gave the okay to federal ICE agents to conduct this search.
Why you don't hear the same conversations from the left
about this as you did from like Maryland, man was
all the courts were given the okay. There was no
abuse of power on the part or even accusations of
abuse of power on the part of Democrats. When it
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came to the initial search warrant, judges gave the okay.
They said you could look into four businesses suspected of
hiring illegal aliens and most importantly, falsifying business records. Word
broke out across social media, alarming activists to the raids
and asking them to show up at home depots and
ambience stores to protest ICE, where they began throwing rocks
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at federal agents and even throw a few rocks at
media outlets. Media outlets were getting pelted with rocks in
some of these videos. For the last few days, protesters
have shown up across downtown LA setting cars on fire,
especially self driving cars. I don't know if this is
because self driving cars are not programmed to I guess
they're maybe because they're programmed not to hit pedestrians, so
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they don't even They just sit there and they're easy targets.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I'm just questioning that now thinking about this and attacking
police officers and ICE agents. The riots caused President Trump
to call in two thousand National guardsmen in another two
thousand troops. It's important to note that despite the chaos.
Every Democrat governor in the country condemned President Trump's action
for calling the National Guard, saying it was an abuse
of power. Congress on Maxine Waters, who's known as a
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beacon of sanity in this country. So there was no
evidence of violence at all, even though there were tons
of videos everyone could watch of cars being set on
fire and law enforcement agents being forced to cower under
a bridgehile they were being pelted with concrete debris. Hundreds
of protesters have been arrested so far, several having guns,
one had an illegal, one an legal alien, and having
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a Molotov cocktail he's preparing to throw at law enforcement.
One independent journalist, Cam Higbee, who I'm hoping to have
on the podcast about this, he's been in downtown LA
though this entire thing. He asked, mes that there's tens
of millions of dollars of damages, because when you have
left wing activists protesting, you eventually will have them rioting stores.
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And they've broken into Apple stores, they set a parking
a lot of blaze. There have been many attacks on businesses,
not just on police officers, which of course they've got
to cause damage to the police equipment as well. This
is all part of President Trump's effort to make goodness
promise for mass deportation, which has scaled up significantly lately.
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On June four, twenty twenty five, President Trump had his
single biggest day for deportations, around twenty two hundred arrests.
Looking at these protests, it's obvious that some are protesters
aren't just illegal aliens, you know, seeing their family members
being rounded up and being upset. This is coming from
left wing activists who are planning and in my opinion,
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arming some of these people with bricks and molotov cocktails
and other weapons. I like at least a few people
have been charged with illegal gun possession. The sight of
illegal aliens waving Mexican and Palestinian flags while they're be
demanding American law be skirted and ignoring American sovereignty is enraging,
and I can't help but think it emboldens Trump's face
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into supporting mass deportations. If there's any wishy washy Republicans
out there, all they have to do is see a
massed illegal alien waving a Mexican flag on top of
a burned police car to get their blood boiling as
they hear CNN sit there and say these are mostly
peaceful protests. I can't imagine that is not enraging to
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the average American, especially the average Republican and moderate Republicans
are the ones who are always willing to bend the
knee and to sit there and give in at the
demands of the left and sit there and say, maybe
they'll like us more than Mendi will like a more
iph We just do this. But I'm not on the
ground in LA, and I've not witnessed these protests personally,
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or am I studying the protests specifically. But our next
guest is a journalist who's been following the rights very
very closely, So he's coming up next, I guess today
is Spencer Linquist. He's an investigative journalist for the Daily
Wire and he's been covering the rights in LA. Spencer,
thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
So my first question is there seems to be that
part of these riots, especially in Los Angeles, are organic.
You know, you see like the overweight Mexican illegal alien
throwing stuff at cop cars, and then there's some of
it that seems to be organized as far as the
leftist organizations in there and saying come here, you know,
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to protest, ice agents and the police. What can you
tell me about the organizational aspects.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, so there's a wide range of different organizations that
are involved in these protests, and I had to report
earlier this week we're honed in on a couple of those,
and these are really radical organizations. You know, we're used
to seeing the communist groups, we're used to seeing Antifa,
were used to seeing groups that oftentimes openly call themselves Marxists.
But what I think is very interesting by this situation
is that it isn't just these standard left wing groups
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that Americans have unfortunately become very familiar with over the
course of the last several years, you know, even since
twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, when they really became active at
the start of the of the Trump era. What we're
seeing now is organizations that in effect really are calling
for Mexico to retake part of this country. That they're
calling for the southwestern states, Texas, New Mexico, California, Arizona
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to really be retaken. And they're viewing this not in
the traditional just left right paradigm. They're seeing this actually
as a revenge really for the Mexican American War. That
is really the framing that a lot of these groups
have taken. So we looked at multiple organizations. One is
called a Centro Cso, another one is called Union in
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del Barrio, and both of these organizations they have this symbol.
It's called Atslam and this comes from the Lazza movement. Larrazzo,
of course means the race. It is an openly racial movement,
an openly racially motivated movement, and this symbol. They actually
have a flag that we showed online, and it's a
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flag of these lower States, these southwestern states, as their
own nation, as potentially part of Mexico. So we're seeing
these organizations again, these organizations that the American people really
aren't familiar with up until now. But these are all
kind of Chicano activist groups, Mexican activist groups, and what
they're doing really is they're engaging in activism in the
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United States on behalf of not only their specific sectional,
factional ethnic interests, but potentially even on the base of
the national interests of foreign powers like Mexico.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You know what's so interesting about the Loraza movement. I
don't know if you know this, but you know that
the Castro brothers walking and it's the other congressman's name.
It's Joaquin Castro, and his brother's name is Julian Castro.
Julian was in the Obama and the Obama administration as
a housing an urban urban housing department. Their mother, Rosie,
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was a central organizer with the Lazza movement. I think
back in the seventies, if I'm not mistaken, in his sixties.
So they go back a very very long time in this.
I haven't actually paid attention to what they've been saying
about it, but they are steeped in the entire Larazza effort.
And this has been dating back decades. This isn't a
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new thing. I mean, it's not as well known, but
this is this is not a new thing. Do you
know anything about but the origin of the Loraza movement.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know, I'm not too familiar with the specific backgrounds
of those congressmen, but I do know quite a bit
about this, the milieu really that that has fostered this
type of activism. I grew up in San Jose, California.
You know, it's an area where there's a really really
high immigrant popular and when I was covering protests there,
even just as a high schooler's eighteen nineteen going to
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some of these protests, and we would see the brown Berets.
They'd be running security at a lot of these groups.
And that's some form of offshoot from the Lauraza movement.
It's you know, one of the factions within it. And
this again, this is an ethnically racially motivated group. These
aren't the typical organizations like just Antifa or some of
these other Marxist organizations. And what we're seeing right now
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in Los Angeles is there's kind of this perfect storm
for these activists that they've been organizing for years on
the basis of this identity. And now you have mass immigration,
it's hidden apex. Now you have a foreign class within
the United States, particularly within Los Angeles, maybe more than
any other city in the country arguably, and there is
this marriage really between these organized forces, these highly ideological
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forces like Union del Barrio and Centro Coso and various
other Larraza organizations. And then you also do just see
this organic sense. You've got people who are flying the
Mexican flag there. Of course, they don't have any form
of loyalty in the United States. This is something I
think that really puts to bed one of the big
sacred cows that the left is touted for really several decades,
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and that is the idea that diversity is our greatest strength.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That's something that we've heard endlessly. The argument.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's really ridiculous on his face, but it goes something
like this. The idea is that if you pack as
many differences as you can into the same political body,
as many different languages, racial and ethnic backgrounds, national origins, religions,
as many different cultures and customs, if you pack as
many different differences into the same political body, that somehow
that is going to result in a peaceful and prosperous society.
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That's something that people on the right of well, we've
already been highly skeptical of. But what we're seeing now
in Los Angeles, I think really puts that to rest.
It really kills that sacred cow on the left. But
we've seen really in actuality. What happens is that we've
a fifth column that we've imported into this country. They're
waving the flags be foreign nation as they're attacking federal
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law enforcement. Simply what's going on in Los Angeles Is
people are trying to enforce the law. These are laws
that have been on the books for years. Unfortunately, they
haven't been enforced with any seriousness until now. And what
we're seeing is the American government can't even enforce its
own laws without a foreign class really revolting against it
in one of our largest cities.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You know, it's always interesting that they throw in the
Palestine flag as well as the Mexican flag, because it's
what it essentially is is a anti colonial movement in
their version of colonialism. It's very a part of their
race Marxism ideology cross section. But there seems to be
a lot of people a lot of tactics that are
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similar between the twenty twenty protests during the George Floyd
summer where there's just bricks everywhere and they're breaking up
concrete to throw them at police. They've rated Apple stores
and other stores, which you know, nothing says we support
illegal aliens like rating an Apple store. What have you
seen as far as attacks like violence goes, especially against
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law enforcement. What are some tactics that have been used.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, we've seen really a range of different a range
of different violent actions. Of course, there's some pretty infamous
video now of you know, people throwing.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Blocks of concrete or rocks.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Even limescooters, which if you've ever rode one of those,
that they're pretty heavy, and these are our items are
getting tossed off the side of a highway overpass on
to cop cars. You know, it's almost miraculous that some
of these police weren't getting, you know, hit with these.
A lot of that damage was to the cars themselves.
You saw these windshields being broke, and of course there's
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been these way moos that have been lit on fire.
So there's a number of different disruptive tactics and it
really is reminiscent of what we saw in the BLM
summer where there was riots all across the country. And
I think you're right to hone in on that form
of anti colonial rhetoric that they used. One of the
organizations that looked into Union del Barrio they speak that
exact language of anti colonialism, and really their overarching goal
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is they call it Nuestra America New America, and what
they want to do is they it's a it's a
movement really across borders, and they want to reconquer the
United States for for indigenous people, that that is their movement,
and they say they're fighting back against European colonialism, fighting
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back against the archetypal Anglo settler. So they're they're viewing
this in explicitly racial and ethnic terms, and mass migration,
it should be noted, is is really what they see
as their tool for reconquering the American Southwest and perhaps
beyond mass immigration, something that we've been told is a blessing.
It's something that apparently makes our country stronger, a fur
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more secure. We've been told all these lies. These left
wing organizations view the first step in the reconquering of
America to be mass migration, and that's why they're fighting
against these deep ortations so hard, and in many cases
these protesters are fighting back violently.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, you know, it's so funny, is I wasn't super
political in my youth. I guess I kind of had
always a little bit of it. But then I in
two thousand and seven or six, I went on a
family vacation where there was like no I mean there
was barely an intern to begin with, but there was
like no television period, and I read a lot, and
I read one of pap Buchanan's books, and he was
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mentioning I think it's the first reason I ever read
who mentioned any of this stuff. And it's just incredible
that it's been twenty something years later, and I think
the book was ten years old at the time, and
now it's really come to the forefront. I don't imagine
that this has broad support within the Latino community, though
mass deportations may be increasing. Is the goal here to
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have like the goal for the Black Panthers was to
have a radical revolution, but they ever had humongously broad
support amongst the American in the left. They were never denounced,
but they were never only huge support. I guess this
so Soldier was denounced, but that was about it. The
Is the goal here to have broad support among the
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Latino American community that is moving to the right fashion
in any other community, or is it just to have
just to really make a staple within progressivism and in
the Democratic Party is to say no, this is what
you're what your police are. Because I think maybe I'm wrong,
did anyone besides John Fetterman condemned this yet? I don't think.
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I think John Vernermon was the only one as far
as I know, it could as far as democratic elected officials.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, that's that's the really the high profile democratic condemnation
that I've seen so far. When it comes to the
goals of these organizations, I really do think it is
the former you know. There there's there's even eclips of
them trying to speak with Hispanic members of law enforcement saying,
don't don't attack.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Your own community.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Don't you know, ethnically cleanse your own community, basically calling
them traders to their people. You know, I don't really
at being particularly successful. Of course, the Hispanic community is
not a monolith. It's more conservative in Texas, at least
relative to how liberal it is in California, you know,
So it certainly isn't a monolith, and I'm not sure
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that they will be able to achieve that broad support,
but there has certainly been an undercurrent of this type
of organizing. I think the immediate goal of these groups
is to make deportations as painful as humanly possible. I
think they're trying to send a message to the administration,
to law enforcement that every time you try and enforce
the law, laws again that have been on the books
for years, laws that are broadly supported by Americans, that
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we are going to make it painful for you, maybe
in the very literal sense of we're going to throw
a brick through your windshield, or we're going to pelt
your vehicles, or we're going to riot, or maybe just
politically costly. I think both those strategies are going to backfire.
The broad swath of the American public is not going
to like these scenes.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I don't think they've liked these scenes.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Of foreigners waving foreign flags on top of burn cars
one of America's largest cities, and the optics are very
bad for them.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So I've seen at least one or two cases of
maleotof cocktails being thrown, one by an illegal alien who
was arrested for throwing molotov cocktails at the police. There
was an instant where the LAPD was stuck underneath a
bridge and they were throwing bricks at them, and one
only goal alien, I think was at least handful of
illegal islands were caught with illegal guns. Has there been
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any calls for explicit violence in the sense of like
let's kill a cop that you've seen anywhere, or is
it just like let's cause chaos.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I did see one speaker who is with Centro Cso
this is one of the one of the groups that
we featured in our report who is making some statements
that certainly could be perceived as.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Calls to cost of violence.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
The individual was saying, we're going to take the fight
to them, We're not playing defense anymore, that when they
come to this city, they're going to realize that we're
not messing around anymore. You know, made some statements that
certainly did seem to appear like there was a call
to violence. You know, it is difficult to unless we
get actual, you know, more arrests, unless we get more footage.
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It's difficult to say exactly the extent to which these
organizations are involved in the violence. But what I can
say is that there was one group that is affiliated
with both of.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
These two organizations.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
It was passing out goggles, it was passing out helmets,
passing out gloves, passing out really all of these items
that would be very useful if you're going up against
cops that are using tear gas or that of riot shields.
So there certainly arezations that, even if they are not
themselves explicitly by their own admission, involved in the violence,
do certainly seem to be facilitating a lot of violence
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that we've seen.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Well, the goggles and helmets, they cost money. How are
they getting money? Is there someone financing these organizations? I
assume there would be, but I wouldn't know. You wouldn't
you know who they are or how they get their money
or are they multimillion other organizations? I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, these SPECI organizations, these three, they're unofficial organizations, so
they're not nonprofits. They don't have you know, nine to
ninety forms from the IRS that we can go dig into.
So it's a lot more difficult really to to do
research into the into the financing of these groups. Oftentimes
they'll make calls out on social media that they'll say,
here's our venmo, here's our PayPal, here's our zel, you know,
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send us some money. We're going to be, you know,
protesting tonight in Los Angeles. So it's really amorphous, you know.
In many cases, it's a lot more difficult to investigate
exactly where the money is coming from.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It's it's a lot of it's a lot of white
Libs in Williamsburg who are sending their parents' money to
like some Lazo race group it's really poetry when you
think about it. I'm sorry, go ahead and continue.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
No, that's that's absolutely right. I mean there's this uh.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I think it's a microcosm of what we see on
the left, one of their more effective strategies.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
It's this high low coalition. Right.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You kind of have this mythos on the left that
you can have these mass movements, these mass calls for justice,
and that this type of mass mobilization really exchange at
the national political level. But what we actually see is
that these are the foot soldiers, and that there is
elite support that comes down from the top to bolster
the efforts of people, you know, who are down there
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doing the street level activism and the street level rioting.
I think the most the biggest example of this is
Kamala Harris promoting that bail fund during one of the
BLM riots.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
But we're even seeing it now.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You know, there is the National Immigrant Law Center and
they're passing out a guide telling illegal aliens, effectively, how
to protest safely. They're saying, leave your phones at home,
give whatever papers that you might have, you know two
loved ones, don't identify yourself. They're really handing out this
guide really to agitate foreign nationals who are present in
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our country. But you do see this marriage between the
kind of scrappy street level people and some of these
organizations that certainly are more well funded and more official that.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Would make it easier to find them. Okay, last two questions,
What if anything has the administration could they do really
to crack down on organizations like this that are trying
to skirt the law like what have What could what
could the presidence administration or even local law enforcement due
to really crack down these organizations?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
You know, the biggest thing in this that the Trump
administration has already done is to pull the funding from
these large organizations. There's one group called the Coalition for
Humane Immigrant Rights and they raked in i believe, tens
of millions of dollars from the Biden administration. They've been
involved in organizing these protests, and we wrote about them
back I believe in October of last year. The Trump
administration pulled their funding earlier this year, so that of
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course is a big step.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Another another potential option that the administration or members of
Congress could have is to officially criminalize to a higher
degree a legal border crossing. You know, that is something
that not only would discourage legal immigration, but it could
also potentially give people, you know, more legal room to
prosecute who are in this country illegally and potentially to
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prosecute those who are facilitating that.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's always crazy whenever you hear oh, you know, the
Trump administration is doing X, Y and Z to stop
illegal immigration, and the natural impulse was, wait a second,
they have those they have the ability to do that anyway.
Of course, our tax dollars are being spent to bring
in illegal aliens. It's some mind boggling. Okay, last question, Spencer,
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what are you working on and what pople go to
read more about your stuff the Daily Wire.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I'm covering immigration really every day. This is the
seismic political issue of our time, both for America and
for Western civilization more broadly. So this is what I'm
digging into, this is what I'm spending my time researching
and investigating, and you can find it first and foremost
at The Daily Wire and also on Twitter. The name
is Spencer Linquist and you can keep up with some
of my investigations there as well.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Spencier, thanks on the podcast. I love reading your stuff,
so I'll keep checking it out and love to have
you backma on time.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Thank you very much, Rian.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Hey, we'll be right back after this time. Forward the
ask Me Anything segment of the podcast. Thank you so
much for your emails. I really enjoy getting them. I
read every single email. You can email me Ryan at
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try to bring you the data and the information that
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you want to hear to find out what the numbers
are behind these narratives you hear from the mainstream media.
This email comes from Cheryl Dunn. Dearest Ryan, there's a
story that came out at the time of me writing
this Wednesday about a federal immigration rate on a Nebraskan
meat production plant. The owner of the plans data that
he used everify and verified over seventy employees that turn
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out to have stolen US identities to get employed. If
we can't rely on e verified to secure the job market,
what can we do? So what Cheryl's talking about is
that there was an ice rate in Omaha at the
Glenn Valley Food Plant where, according to Congressman Don bacon.
Seventy five to eighty people were detained for being in
the country illegally, according to Glenn Valley Food Plant. They
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said that they used to Everify in the hiring process.
Everify is supposed to allow employers to figure out who
you can and cannot hire illegally or illegally, you know,
in this country, with their status is I called my
friends at the Center for Immigration Studies after reading this email.
I asked them, how how could these this many people
thwart Everify and get away with it? This is it's
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not one person, it's a lot of people. And they
said it was statistically improbable that everify was actually being
used correctly in this case that they were that they
were kind of, you know, saying they were using without
actually thoroughly using it. I researched information from DHS and
they said everifies accuracy rate as the twenty eighteen was
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ninety eight point eight eight percent for work authorized individuals
and ninety four percent accuracy for final non confirmations. The
reporting shows that there was very very few cases of
people really being able to get away with not being employed.
The only way that this actually happened where was seventy
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five to eighty people. Is if they were all using
stolen IDs, which if they are that many people in
one single location getting stolen ideas stolen driver's licenses or
doctor's driver's licenses using real numbers, then there's obviously a
larger operation going on that is producing these driver's licenses.
Once again, I asked my friends who were in the
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know about this. They said, it's likely that that everify
was not actually being carried out as they as it's
supposed to, and that they were trying they're trying to
save face now if it if it was being carried out,
and it's just that there is an operation of people
illegally producing and manufacturing driver's licenses in Omaha. Like Omaha
is a big city, but it's not Chicago. It's because
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that there's some other operation going on that the federal
government needs to look at and investigate. Because ev verifce
work very good in Florida. Florida has a huge, hugely
large amount of you verify, I think what the terminology was,
but application is being processed through you verify. I think
Florida is now the number one state under Governor Desantas.
So it does work when it's being used correctly. I
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just don't know if it's being used correctly, and if
there is, if it is an illegal system where they're
producing fake driver's licenses, I think that's a separate obstacle
to take. But as far as we're seeing in Florida,
when you verify is being used properly, it's actually working.
So I think that I think that more of this
is about saving face for the plant, for the Glenn
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Valley Food Plant than it is about if the system
is flawed. That's my answer. Hope you guys like it.
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you next week.
Welcome back to a Numbers Game podcast of Ryan Gerdowski.
Thank you all for being here again for this Thursday episode.
Before I bring up my main topic about the LA riots,
I want to talk with some quick numbers for my
audience to chew. On Tuesday was the primary in New
Jersey's governor's race. This is one of two governor's races
happening this year or the other in Virginia, Democratic Congssman
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Mickey Cheryl was the victor and her party's primary. She
won thirty four percent in a record high election. Was
a very crowded feel full of very highly qualified Democrats,
while the former Republican nominee from twenty twenty one, Jack Chittarelli,
won the GOP primary, taking about sixty eight percent of
the vote, very impressive. Chittarelli won every county in the state.
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He was easily the favorite. Ironically, it was a very
high turnout for his primary as well, even though he
basically had locked up the nomination weeks ago. Cheryl once
again had a packed feel full of opponents and she
was running basically second. In every single came counties she
won either first or second, so that's how she was
able to beat out everybody. There was pockets that it
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supported a state senator in the south, in southern Jersey,
there was pockets that supported mayors over in the suburbs
of New York. So she managed to win. Where she
didn't win first place, she won second place everywhere, powering
her victory. So it's really exciting for both those campaigns.
Cheryl had also the backing of county parties, which in
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New Jersey really means something because it's one of the
last few states that really has a machine infrastructure. And
she was also supported by a pack called Emily's List,
as well as several former Democratic governors of the state. Okay,
let me talk about the numbers of the state ahead
of the general election. And I'm going to talk about
this election again before November, but it's because it's, you know,
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one of only two, so we're going to be talking
about it. Democrats sat up this race with an eight
hundred and twenty seven thousand person voter advantage. There's eight
hundred and twenty seven thousand more registered Democrats than Republicans
in the Garden State. So that strength means that they're
going in this as the favorite. They have the advantage
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walking into this, but the strength of the Democratic Party
in New Jersey is not what it used to be. Obviously,
everyone was surprised that Trump managed to get within six
points of winning New Jersey and Chittarelli was in three
points of winning the governorship back in twenty twenty one.
Back in twenty twenty, right before the last governor's race,
Democrats had a one point zero two seven million, almost
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one million, thirty thousand person voter advantage. They lost about
two hundred thousand net voters to Republicans since the last election,
and they only won the last election by eighty four
thousand votes. So why Republicans have a real chance to
win the Garden State for the first time since since
Chris Christie back in I think tw and nine twenty thirteen,
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that was his reelectionlic have done a steady job at
decreasing democrats voter advantage every month for four years. For
every month for the last four years, there have been
more new registered Republicans regis Democrats. Since December twenty twenty,
Republicans have gained a net one hundred and seventy nine
thousand new registered voters, while Democrats have lost about seventy
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three thousand voters. The other big thing in New Jersey
why this is different than the last government election is
there are more registered independents than Democrats in the state.
All told, the state has about two point five million independents,
two point four to five million Democrats, and one point
sixty two million Republicans. Whoever can win a broad selection
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of independence wins the governor's mansion. And once again, I'll
be back about New Jersey later on the year. We'll
talk about polling data when it comes out. There's like
essentially no polling data right now, so I'll talk about
it as it comes out. As we have more information.
Maybe I can get some of the campaigns on I
would love to sit there and even here from Democrats
about they're feeling in the Garden State because they've definitely
lost traction in a state that they needed. Jersey ever
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becomes a real swing state like the way Georgia is
or Nevada, and Republicans can win it. Democrats are in
trouble nationwide. Remember, Jersey has been a consistent Democrats states
since nineteen ninety two, but from nineteen sixty eight to
nineteen eighty eight it was a reliably Republican state. So
it's not like it's unheard of that they're a party
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that their state would be in contention. Okay, So now
for the main topic of the show, I want to
talk about LA. At the height of the George Floyd riots,
it was known as the Summer of Love. Well, five
years later, summer twenty twenty five, it can be known
as the Summer of Ice. Anti immigration and force and
rights have broken out in several major cities, including New York, Atlanta,
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San Diego, Minneapolis, Glendeal, Arizona, San Francisco, San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Chicago,
and La. The riots in LA have set parts of
the city of blaze and have become the epicenter of
the anti immigrant riots in the country. It all began
on June sixth, when immigration officers executed a search warrant.
This is important because a federal judge from Los Angeles
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gave the okay to federal ICE agents to conduct this search.
Why you don't hear the same conversations from the left
about this as you did from like Maryland, man was
all the courts were given the okay. There was no
abuse of power on the part or even accusations of
abuse of power on the part of Democrats. When it
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came to the initial search warrant, judges gave the okay.
They said you could look into four businesses suspected of
hiring illegal aliens and most importantly, falsifying business records. Word
broke out across social media, alarming activists to the raids
and asking them to show up at home depots and
ambience stores to protest ICE, where they began throwing rocks
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at federal agents and even throw a few rocks at
media outlets. Media outlets were getting pelted with rocks in
some of these videos. For the last few days, protesters
have shown up across downtown LA setting cars on fire,
especially self driving cars. I don't know if this is
because self driving cars are not programmed to I guess
they're maybe because they're programmed not to hit pedestrians, so
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they don't even They just sit there and they're easy targets.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I'm just questioning that now thinking about this and attacking
police officers and ICE agents. The riots caused President Trump
to call in two thousand National guardsmen in another two
thousand troops. It's important to note that despite the chaos.
Every Democrat governor in the country condemned President Trump's action
for calling the National Guard, saying it was an abuse
of power. Congress on Maxine Waters, who's known as a
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beacon of sanity in this country. So there was no
evidence of violence at all, even though there were tons
of videos everyone could watch of cars being set on
fire and law enforcement agents being forced to cower under
a bridgehile they were being pelted with concrete debris. Hundreds
of protesters have been arrested so far, several having guns,
one had an illegal, one an legal alien, and having
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a Molotov cocktail he's preparing to throw at law enforcement.
One independent journalist, Cam Higbee, who I'm hoping to have
on the podcast about this, he's been in downtown LA
though this entire thing. He asked, mes that there's tens
of millions of dollars of damages, because when you have
left wing activists protesting, you eventually will have them rioting stores.
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And they've broken into Apple stores, they set a parking
a lot of blaze. There have been many attacks on businesses,
not just on police officers, which of course they've got
to cause damage to the police equipment as well. This
is all part of President Trump's effort to make goodness
promise for mass deportation, which has scaled up significantly lately.
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On June four, twenty twenty five, President Trump had his
single biggest day for deportations, around twenty two hundred arrests.
Looking at these protests, it's obvious that some are protesters
aren't just illegal aliens, you know, seeing their family members
being rounded up and being upset. This is coming from
left wing activists who are planning and in my opinion,
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arming some of these people with bricks and molotov cocktails
and other weapons. I like at least a few people
have been charged with illegal gun possession. The sight of
illegal aliens waving Mexican and Palestinian flags while they're be
demanding American law be skirted and ignoring American sovereignty is enraging,
and I can't help but think it emboldens Trump's face
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into supporting mass deportations. If there's any wishy washy Republicans
out there, all they have to do is see a
massed illegal alien waving a Mexican flag on top of
a burned police car to get their blood boiling as
they hear CNN sit there and say these are mostly
peaceful protests. I can't imagine that is not enraging to
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the average American, especially the average Republican and moderate Republicans
are the ones who are always willing to bend the
knee and to sit there and give in at the
demands of the left and sit there and say, maybe
they'll like us more than Mendi will like a more
iph We just do this. But I'm not on the
ground in LA, and I've not witnessed these protests personally,
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or am I studying the protests specifically. But our next
guest is a journalist who's been following the rights very
very closely, So he's coming up next, I guess today
is Spencer Linquist. He's an investigative journalist for the Daily
Wire and he's been covering the rights in LA. Spencer,
thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
So my first question is there seems to be that
part of these riots, especially in Los Angeles, are organic.
You know, you see like the overweight Mexican illegal alien
throwing stuff at cop cars, and then there's some of
it that seems to be organized as far as the
leftist organizations in there and saying come here, you know,
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to protest, ice agents and the police. What can you
tell me about the organizational aspects.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, so there's a wide range of different organizations that
are involved in these protests, and I had to report
earlier this week we're honed in on a couple of those,
and these are really radical organizations. You know, we're used
to seeing the communist groups, we're used to seeing Antifa,
were used to seeing groups that oftentimes openly call themselves Marxists.
But what I think is very interesting by this situation
is that it isn't just these standard left wing groups
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that Americans have unfortunately become very familiar with over the
course of the last several years, you know, even since
twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, when they really became active at
the start of the of the Trump era. What we're
seeing now is organizations that in effect really are calling
for Mexico to retake part of this country. That they're
calling for the southwestern states, Texas, New Mexico, California, Arizona
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to really be retaken. And they're viewing this not in
the traditional just left right paradigm. They're seeing this actually
as a revenge really for the Mexican American War. That
is really the framing that a lot of these groups
have taken. So we looked at multiple organizations. One is
called a Centro Cso, another one is called Union in
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del Barrio, and both of these organizations they have this symbol.
It's called Atslam and this comes from the Lazza movement. Larrazzo,
of course means the race. It is an openly racial movement,
an openly racially motivated movement, and this symbol. They actually
have a flag that we showed online, and it's a
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flag of these lower States, these southwestern states, as their
own nation, as potentially part of Mexico. So we're seeing
these organizations again, these organizations that the American people really
aren't familiar with up until now. But these are all
kind of Chicano activist groups, Mexican activist groups, and what
they're doing really is they're engaging in activism in the
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United States on behalf of not only their specific sectional,
factional ethnic interests, but potentially even on the base of
the national interests of foreign powers like Mexico.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You know what's so interesting about the Loraza movement. I
don't know if you know this, but you know that
the Castro brothers walking and it's the other congressman's name.
It's Joaquin Castro, and his brother's name is Julian Castro.
Julian was in the Obama and the Obama administration as
a housing an urban urban housing department. Their mother, Rosie,
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was a central organizer with the Lazza movement. I think
back in the seventies, if I'm not mistaken, in his sixties.
So they go back a very very long time in this.
I haven't actually paid attention to what they've been saying
about it, but they are steeped in the entire Larazza effort.
And this has been dating back decades. This isn't a
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new thing. I mean, it's not as well known, but
this is this is not a new thing. Do you
know anything about but the origin of the Loraza movement.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know, I'm not too familiar with the specific backgrounds
of those congressmen, but I do know quite a bit
about this, the milieu really that that has fostered this
type of activism. I grew up in San Jose, California.
You know, it's an area where there's a really really
high immigrant popular and when I was covering protests there,
even just as a high schooler's eighteen nineteen going to
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some of these protests, and we would see the brown Berets.
They'd be running security at a lot of these groups.
And that's some form of offshoot from the Lauraza movement.
It's you know, one of the factions within it. And
this again, this is an ethnically racially motivated group. These
aren't the typical organizations like just Antifa or some of
these other Marxist organizations. And what we're seeing right now
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in Los Angeles is there's kind of this perfect storm
for these activists that they've been organizing for years on
the basis of this identity. And now you have mass immigration,
it's hidden apex. Now you have a foreign class within
the United States, particularly within Los Angeles, maybe more than
any other city in the country arguably, and there is
this marriage really between these organized forces, these highly ideological
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forces like Union del Barrio and Centro Coso and various
other Larraza organizations. And then you also do just see
this organic sense. You've got people who are flying the
Mexican flag there. Of course, they don't have any form
of loyalty in the United States. This is something I
think that really puts to bed one of the big
sacred cows that the left is touted for really several decades,
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and that is the idea that diversity is our greatest strength.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That's something that we've heard endlessly. The argument.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's really ridiculous on his face, but it goes something
like this. The idea is that if you pack as
many differences as you can into the same political body,
as many different languages, racial and ethnic backgrounds, national origins, religions,
as many different cultures and customs, if you pack as
many different differences into the same political body, that somehow
that is going to result in a peaceful and prosperous society.
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That's something that people on the right of well, we've
already been highly skeptical of. But what we're seeing now
in Los Angeles, I think really puts that to rest.
It really kills that sacred cow on the left. But
we've seen really in actuality. What happens is that we've
a fifth column that we've imported into this country. They're
waving the flags be foreign nation as they're attacking federal
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law enforcement. Simply what's going on in Los Angeles Is
people are trying to enforce the law. These are laws
that have been on the books for years. Unfortunately, they
haven't been enforced with any seriousness until now. And what
we're seeing is the American government can't even enforce its
own laws without a foreign class really revolting against it
in one of our largest cities.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You know, it's always interesting that they throw in the
Palestine flag as well as the Mexican flag, because it's
what it essentially is is a anti colonial movement in
their version of colonialism. It's very a part of their
race Marxism ideology cross section. But there seems to be
a lot of people a lot of tactics that are
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similar between the twenty twenty protests during the George Floyd
summer where there's just bricks everywhere and they're breaking up
concrete to throw them at police. They've rated Apple stores
and other stores, which you know, nothing says we support
illegal aliens like rating an Apple store. What have you
seen as far as attacks like violence goes, especially against
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law enforcement. What are some tactics that have been used.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, we've seen really a range of different a range
of different violent actions. Of course, there's some pretty infamous
video now of you know, people throwing.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Blocks of concrete or rocks.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Even limescooters, which if you've ever rode one of those,
that they're pretty heavy, and these are our items are
getting tossed off the side of a highway overpass on
to cop cars. You know, it's almost miraculous that some
of these police weren't getting, you know, hit with these.
A lot of that damage was to the cars themselves.
You saw these windshields being broke, and of course there's
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been these way moos that have been lit on fire.
So there's a number of different disruptive tactics and it
really is reminiscent of what we saw in the BLM
summer where there was riots all across the country. And
I think you're right to hone in on that form
of anti colonial rhetoric that they used. One of the
organizations that looked into Union del Barrio they speak that
exact language of anti colonialism, and really their overarching goal
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is they call it Nuestra America New America, and what
they want to do is they it's a it's a
movement really across borders, and they want to reconquer the
United States for for indigenous people, that that is their movement,
and they say they're fighting back against European colonialism, fighting
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back against the archetypal Anglo settler. So they're they're viewing
this in explicitly racial and ethnic terms, and mass migration,
it should be noted, is is really what they see
as their tool for reconquering the American Southwest and perhaps
beyond mass immigration, something that we've been told is a blessing.
It's something that apparently makes our country stronger, a fur
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more secure. We've been told all these lies. These left
wing organizations view the first step in the reconquering of
America to be mass migration, and that's why they're fighting
against these deep ortations so hard, and in many cases
these protesters are fighting back violently.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, you know, it's so funny, is I wasn't super
political in my youth. I guess I kind of had
always a little bit of it. But then I in
two thousand and seven or six, I went on a
family vacation where there was like no I mean there
was barely an intern to begin with, but there was
like no television period, and I read a lot, and
I read one of pap Buchanan's books, and he was
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mentioning I think it's the first reason I ever read
who mentioned any of this stuff. And it's just incredible
that it's been twenty something years later, and I think
the book was ten years old at the time, and
now it's really come to the forefront. I don't imagine
that this has broad support within the Latino community, though
mass deportations may be increasing. Is the goal here to
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have like the goal for the Black Panthers was to
have a radical revolution, but they ever had humongously broad
support amongst the American in the left. They were never denounced,
but they were never only huge support. I guess this
so Soldier was denounced, but that was about it. The
Is the goal here to have broad support among the
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Latino American community that is moving to the right fashion
in any other community, or is it just to have
just to really make a staple within progressivism and in
the Democratic Party is to say no, this is what
you're what your police are. Because I think maybe I'm wrong,
did anyone besides John Fetterman condemned this yet? I don't think.
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I think John Vernermon was the only one as far
as I know, it could as far as democratic elected officials.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, that's that's the really the high profile democratic condemnation
that I've seen so far. When it comes to the
goals of these organizations, I really do think it is
the former you know. There there's there's even eclips of
them trying to speak with Hispanic members of law enforcement saying,
don't don't attack.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Your own community.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Don't you know, ethnically cleanse your own community, basically calling
them traders to their people. You know, I don't really
at being particularly successful. Of course, the Hispanic community is
not a monolith. It's more conservative in Texas, at least
relative to how liberal it is in California, you know,
So it certainly isn't a monolith, and I'm not sure
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that they will be able to achieve that broad support,
but there has certainly been an undercurrent of this type
of organizing. I think the immediate goal of these groups
is to make deportations as painful as humanly possible. I
think they're trying to send a message to the administration,
to law enforcement that every time you try and enforce
the law, laws again that have been on the books
for years, laws that are broadly supported by Americans, that
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we are going to make it painful for you, maybe
in the very literal sense of we're going to throw
a brick through your windshield, or we're going to pelt
your vehicles, or we're going to riot, or maybe just
politically costly. I think both those strategies are going to backfire.
The broad swath of the American public is not going
to like these scenes.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I don't think they've liked these scenes.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Of foreigners waving foreign flags on top of burn cars
one of America's largest cities, and the optics are very
bad for them.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So I've seen at least one or two cases of
maleotof cocktails being thrown, one by an illegal alien who
was arrested for throwing molotov cocktails at the police. There
was an instant where the LAPD was stuck underneath a
bridge and they were throwing bricks at them, and one
only goal alien, I think was at least handful of
illegal islands were caught with illegal guns. Has there been
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any calls for explicit violence in the sense of like
let's kill a cop that you've seen anywhere, or is
it just like let's cause chaos.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I did see one speaker who is with Centro Cso
this is one of the one of the groups that
we featured in our report who is making some statements
that certainly could be perceived as.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Calls to cost of violence.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
The individual was saying, we're going to take the fight
to them, We're not playing defense anymore, that when they
come to this city, they're going to realize that we're
not messing around anymore. You know, made some statements that
certainly did seem to appear like there was a call
to violence. You know, it is difficult to unless we
get actual, you know, more arrests, unless we get more footage.
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It's difficult to say exactly the extent to which these
organizations are involved in the violence. But what I can
say is that there was one group that is affiliated
with both of.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
These two organizations.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
It was passing out goggles, it was passing out helmets,
passing out gloves, passing out really all of these items
that would be very useful if you're going up against
cops that are using tear gas or that of riot shields.
So there certainly arezations that, even if they are not
themselves explicitly by their own admission, involved in the violence,
do certainly seem to be facilitating a lot of violence
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that we've seen.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Well, the goggles and helmets, they cost money. How are
they getting money? Is there someone financing these organizations? I
assume there would be, but I wouldn't know. You wouldn't
you know who they are or how they get their money
or are they multimillion other organizations? I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, these SPECI organizations, these three, they're unofficial organizations, so
they're not nonprofits. They don't have you know, nine to
ninety forms from the IRS that we can go dig into.
So it's a lot more difficult really to to do
research into the into the financing of these groups. Oftentimes
they'll make calls out on social media that they'll say,
here's our venmo, here's our PayPal, here's our zel, you know,
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send us some money. We're going to be, you know,
protesting tonight in Los Angeles. So it's really amorphous, you know.
In many cases, it's a lot more difficult to investigate
exactly where the money is coming from.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It's it's a lot of it's a lot of white
Libs in Williamsburg who are sending their parents' money to
like some Lazo race group it's really poetry when you
think about it. I'm sorry, go ahead and continue.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
No, that's that's absolutely right. I mean there's this uh.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I think it's a microcosm of what we see on
the left, one of their more effective strategies.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
It's this high low coalition. Right.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You kind of have this mythos on the left that
you can have these mass movements, these mass calls for justice,
and that this type of mass mobilization really exchange at
the national political level. But what we actually see is
that these are the foot soldiers, and that there is
elite support that comes down from the top to bolster
the efforts of people, you know, who are down there
(24:11):
doing the street level activism and the street level rioting.
I think the most the biggest example of this is
Kamala Harris promoting that bail fund during one of the
BLM riots.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
But we're even seeing it now.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You know, there is the National Immigrant Law Center and
they're passing out a guide telling illegal aliens, effectively, how
to protest safely. They're saying, leave your phones at home,
give whatever papers that you might have, you know two
loved ones, don't identify yourself. They're really handing out this
guide really to agitate foreign nationals who are present in
(24:43):
our country. But you do see this marriage between the
kind of scrappy street level people and some of these
organizations that certainly are more well funded and more official that.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Would make it easier to find them. Okay, last two questions,
What if anything has the administration could they do really
to crack down on organizations like this that are trying
to skirt the law like what have What could what
could the presidence administration or even local law enforcement due
to really crack down these organizations?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
You know, the biggest thing in this that the Trump
administration has already done is to pull the funding from
these large organizations. There's one group called the Coalition for
Humane Immigrant Rights and they raked in i believe, tens
of millions of dollars from the Biden administration. They've been
involved in organizing these protests, and we wrote about them
back I believe in October of last year. The Trump
administration pulled their funding earlier this year, so that of
(25:37):
course is a big step.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Another another potential option that the administration or members of
Congress could have is to officially criminalize to a higher
degree a legal border crossing. You know, that is something
that not only would discourage legal immigration, but it could
also potentially give people, you know, more legal room to
prosecute who are in this country illegally and potentially to
(26:02):
prosecute those who are facilitating that.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's always crazy whenever you hear oh, you know, the
Trump administration is doing X, Y and Z to stop
illegal immigration, and the natural impulse was, wait a second,
they have those they have the ability to do that anyway.
Of course, our tax dollars are being spent to bring
in illegal aliens. It's some mind boggling. Okay, last question, Spencer,
(26:25):
what are you working on and what pople go to
read more about your stuff the Daily Wire.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I'm covering immigration really every day. This is the
seismic political issue of our time, both for America and
for Western civilization more broadly. So this is what I'm
digging into, this is what I'm spending my time researching
and investigating, and you can find it first and foremost
at The Daily Wire and also on Twitter. The name
is Spencer Linquist and you can keep up with some
of my investigations there as well.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Spencier, thanks on the podcast. I love reading your stuff,
so I'll keep checking it out and love to have
you backma on time.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Thank you very much, Rian.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Hey, we'll be right back after this time. Forward the
ask Me Anything segment of the podcast. Thank you so
much for your emails. I really enjoy getting them. I
read every single email. You can email me Ryan at
Numbers Gamepodcast dot com. That's Ryan at Numbers Game podcast
dot com. Ask me any question you want and I'll
try to bring you the data and the information that
(27:21):
you want to hear to find out what the numbers
are behind these narratives you hear from the mainstream media.
This email comes from Cheryl Dunn. Dearest Ryan, there's a
story that came out at the time of me writing
this Wednesday about a federal immigration rate on a Nebraskan
meat production plant. The owner of the plans data that
he used everify and verified over seventy employees that turn
(27:42):
out to have stolen US identities to get employed. If
we can't rely on e verified to secure the job market,
what can we do? So what Cheryl's talking about is
that there was an ice rate in Omaha at the
Glenn Valley Food Plant where, according to Congressman Don bacon.
Seventy five to eighty people were detained for being in
the country illegally, according to Glenn Valley Food Plant. They
(28:04):
said that they used to Everify in the hiring process.
Everify is supposed to allow employers to figure out who
you can and cannot hire illegally or illegally, you know,
in this country, with their status is I called my
friends at the Center for Immigration Studies after reading this email.
I asked them, how how could these this many people
thwart Everify and get away with it? This is it's
(28:24):
not one person, it's a lot of people. And they
said it was statistically improbable that everify was actually being
used correctly in this case that they were that they
were kind of, you know, saying they were using without
actually thoroughly using it. I researched information from DHS and
they said everifies accuracy rate as the twenty eighteen was
(28:45):
ninety eight point eight eight percent for work authorized individuals
and ninety four percent accuracy for final non confirmations. The
reporting shows that there was very very few cases of
people really being able to get away with not being employed.
The only way that this actually happened where was seventy
(29:07):
five to eighty people. Is if they were all using
stolen IDs, which if they are that many people in
one single location getting stolen ideas stolen driver's licenses or
doctor's driver's licenses using real numbers, then there's obviously a
larger operation going on that is producing these driver's licenses.
Once again, I asked my friends who were in the
(29:29):
know about this. They said, it's likely that that everify
was not actually being carried out as they as it's
supposed to, and that they were trying they're trying to
save face now if it if it was being carried out,
and it's just that there is an operation of people
illegally producing and manufacturing driver's licenses in Omaha. Like Omaha
is a big city, but it's not Chicago. It's because
(29:54):
that there's some other operation going on that the federal
government needs to look at and investigate. Because ev verifce
work very good in Florida. Florida has a huge, hugely
large amount of you verify, I think what the terminology was,
but application is being processed through you verify. I think
Florida is now the number one state under Governor Desantas.
So it does work when it's being used correctly. I
(30:16):
just don't know if it's being used correctly, and if
there is, if it is an illegal system where they're
producing fake driver's licenses, I think that's a separate obstacle
to take. But as far as we're seeing in Florida,
when you verify is being used properly, it's actually working.
So I think that I think that more of this
is about saving face for the plant, for the Glenn
(30:38):
Valley Food Plant than it is about if the system
is flawed. That's my answer. Hope you guys like it.
Come back on Monday. We have a great show prepare
for you guys, and I will see you next week.
If you like this podcast, please like and subscribe on
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Give me a five star review if you're feeling generous.
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(30:59):
you next week.
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