March 15, 2018 • 41 mins
This week Matty talks to Emily Morse from the popular sex and relationship podcast, "Sex with Emily"! They talk about her journey in podcasting, being consistent for 13 years, women being empowered in the bedroom, and find out what Emily thinks is the next big thing in sex in our 3 Killer Questions round!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, everybody, I'm Maddie. That's great. Stick with that, all right,
Hey Maddie, this is access podcast podcast about podcasts. You know,
Mercury is in retro gray. Things are all wacky here
at I Heeart Radio. I'm I'm snippy, I'm snappy. Everybody
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else is snippy and snappy. But what's not snappy and
snappy is our guest today. She's wonderful. I've known her
for a long time, ten years now, Emily Morrise. She
got one of the oldest sex podcast going though out there.
It's called Sex with Emily uh, and it's been a
mainstay in the podcast community for gears. So we're gonna
talk to Emily on the other side. But gosh, I
hope this clip isn't too X rated. Here's why I
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always say communication is a lubrication, because so many of
our sexual challenges are around finding the right words to communicate,
and not only that, continuing to communicate and taking it
to the next levels. And as we think, well, I
talked about it, and therefore it's done, and my partner's
just gonna understand what I'm saying. And I think when
we really tell our partners of things that we think
we cannot say. That's really when the vulnerability happens a
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connection and enhance his intimacy. So say those things, you guys.
Life is too short for bad sex. So the sooner
you're address whatever it is in your mind with your
partner that you trust and love, the sooner you'll be
having amazing sex, the sex that you want and that
you deserve and joining me my friend Emily from Sex
with Emily Hi, Emily Hi. I always want to ask
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you this question, so I'm gonna start with it right
off the bat, do it. Don't you ever get tired
of talking about sex all the time? You know that
is a great question because I've dow a podcast now
for thirteen years, and I often at the beginning people
are like, aren't you ever gonna get tired of sex?
So there's gonna be nothing to talk about? And I
have to say that it's I'm still not I still
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love doing the podcast after thirteen years, because it's never
the same. I mean, sex is so nuance. I guess
if it was a chef, he would say, where are
you getting tired of? You know, talking about cooking? You're
teaching cooking, And the truth is there's always different ways
to talk about sex and to learn about sex. So
there's a lot of different paths. It's not just about
missionary position, you know, there's a lot of sex, dating, relationships, marriage, love.
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So no, I don't. Maybe maybe I asked the question
because my sex life is so vanilla exactly sex life. See,
my job is to make sure that no one's sex
life is vanilla, including my own. So hey, I'm always
learning as well. How about that, I I will this
is not what I'm sure we're gonna end up talking
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about some sex stuff, but your sex life, well yeah,
because no, So you and I've talked many times over
the years and every time I kind of give you
the same rundown, and it's it's dude has a change.
So I got my routine, it works whatever. Um, okay,
I want to get back at what you just said.
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Thirteen years of doing a podcast, and that's I mean
in this business. I I talked to people all the
time and they're like, wow, you've been casting for ten
years and I'm like, yeah, but there's been folks in
a lot longer than me. Thirteen years. Yeah, how do
you feel about the business from when you started to
what it's like today. I mean when I started up
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until a few years ago, it was like wait, what podcast?
What is that? How do you do it? So, you know,
I'm just glad that there's more. Like I'm glad that
there are so many podcasts right now. There was no
business of podcasting until about a few years ago, meaning
like how do you make money doing podcasting? Is it
a thing? So I think it's great that now people
are really like paying attention to it, they're listening to
podcasts that people, advertisers are taking it seriously, businesses are
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taken seriously. So I think the more of the merrier, Like,
so I'm glad that it's evolving and growing, and you know,
it's great for business, it's great for everyone. You know,
people can now listen. You know, there's five minute thousand podcasts.
So what I think that when you and I both started,
you know, I know when I left radio, it was
it was like a dirty word if I said podcasting,
people like, so why do podcast nerds? Exactly? And you've
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seen it change a lot. What has kept you on
doing the podcast for so long? Like what what is
what about the medium has made you keep doing it
through the times when it was not cool to do it. Yeah,
it was never cool, and it wasn't cool, nor was
it like profitable. You know, I went through a lot
of rough times trying to make this thing happen. I
think I just really, well, here's the thing. I haven't
only been podcasting for thirteen years, you know, I actually
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have always released a podcast pretty much every week for
thirteen years. But I you know, I do a lot
of other things as well. So I moved to l A.
So I was in San Francisco with you. I moved
here five years ago and I started doing Loveline with
Dr Drew and um every you know, once a week
for five years. And that also really that was really fun.
So I love doing radio. Um, I do television, I write,
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I do a lot of our things. So what case
me going with it is that, first of all, now
I have my own studio in l A. I feel
like the podcast is always evolving too. So if you
listen to one from Men five years ago, it's a
lot different to what it is now. And since I
have a lot more listener as, I just think I
keep kind of improving upon it and keep challenging myself
and my listeners. So excuse me going because I find
it infinitely fascinating, you know, I do. I still love
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doing it. It's easier to do now because again I
do a studio and a great staff and a great team. Um,
but I think it's I don't know, I mean, and
I love like I'm doing more video and more writing,
so it's kind of like I have a business built
around it. It's definitely my main thing. But I just
do it because I think it's a great I'm glad
I held it in there, you know, because people actually
know what it is now. So do you ever go
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back and listen to some of your older podcasts? I don't.
I know that I should. I would be horrified, but
I finally should. I have them all here. Um, it's
changed a lot because when I started, I wasn't the
expert in sex. I was coming from a documentary filmmaker background,
and I was more like, hey, how do you all
have great sex? Because I know that I think my
sex life isn't so great. I mean, it's okay, but
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how does it? You know? So it started out me
not giving advice, and that kind of I got me
back to school, got my doctorate, so you know, it's
kind of it's change a lot. Let's talk about the
evolution of that. So, first of all, what was high
school Emily? Like? I was kind of approved, to be honest,
I wasn't like. I wasn't very I was popular, I
had a lot of friends. I guess I was friends
with everybody. I was, um, I don't know. I was more.
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I wasn't that. I didn't really come into myself until
I wasn't in college, Like I think I was sort
of not taking school that seriously and I had a
lot of friends, but I kind of dabbled a lot
of different things. So I was more high school Emily.
Isn't that interesting? High school Emily had a lot of
messed up child and stuff. And I think I was
just trying to get out of the house. And how
about Michigan Wolverine Emily. Michigan Wolverine Emily. So when I
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got to Michigan, I was super driven and really into
school and working and career. And I worked in Paula.
I made it in politics, so I was like work
and then I, um, but like I started really hard.
I got all as, I had internships and stuff like that,
and then I moved to San Francisco. I don't touched.
I was fun though, don't get me wrong. Time majored
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in politics. Yes, what why did you major in politics?
What was your what was what was the draw for you?
So what happened was I got to college and I
was very like I couldn't believe. I took like Polly
Policie one on one or something, and I remember thinking like, wow,
there's only two women in the Senate, and I was
really involved women's issues. I took my first women's studies
class and I was like, how are the only two
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women the Senate have to work getting women elected to office?
So I started volunteering on campus. And then senior year,
I was reading the paper and said like it was
the year of the Woman in San Francisco because like
Boxer and fine Sign and Pelosi were running. I was like,
I'm want to move there. And I just got in
my car and drove to San Francisco. And that's kind
of how it all started. So that's that's what interested me.
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And it was like changing the world through politics. And
I worked in San Francisco for ten years of politics.
I don't know if you know that. I worked for
Willie Brown, and and then you met me when I
started the whole podcast thing, and then I hit a
film about Willie Brown, and I don't know, then I
got involved politics, but I was always like, but sex,
here's the thing. I always a serious So, going back
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to how it relates sex with Emily, I was a
serial monogamist. I always had boyfriends, like for two years,
two years and then in my twenties, and I was like,
I never was that interested though, in long term relationships
or marriage. I was very much driven by, like my
purpose on the planet of doing something that felt like
it was going to fulfill me and change the world.
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Because I was raised by my mom who was like,
never relying anyone to take care of you. So I thought, well,
I'm always gonna be working. What am I going to
do that I'm really excited about? So I found myself
always confounded by relationships because I would date nice guys
and they were like, well, what's the you know, let's
move in or let's get married, and I was like,
I'm not really interested. And so then I realized that,
like I was more interested in learning about why that
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was the case, Like maybe I could study relationships and
sex and then I would want that traditional thing, and
after thirteen years, I can tell you that I can
have I'm in much healthier relationships now in the sense
of I know what I want, what I don't want,
and my sex life is deaf really better. But I think,
like I was always just kind of I think the
problem with relationships and what I'm trying to change through
my podcast is that all we see is like, you know, monogamy,
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like sign up monogamy, one person for the rest of
our life, told death do his part. And I think
and I'm not saying everyone should be like swingers or
free love. I'm not saying that either. I'm just saying
that we get to create what kind of relationships you
want to be in, what kind of sex like we
want to have. And I don't think that we're ever
taught or even told that we have options to des
find what we want. And I'd like to give people
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ways to talk about sex and relationships in a way
that's very approachable. Yeah, So I'm gonna I wanna want
to want to pause back for a little bit. So
in two thousand five, what was the thing that got
you to do this fool? I know you started, you know,
you made a documentary. How did all that turn into? Heck,
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this is what I want to do with my life.
Oh well, um, let's see, since since figuring out my life,
purpose was my main draw in life was my main focus.
Since a lot of people it's like, how do I
find a partner to get married? I was like, so
everything I did, like even politics. I loved it until
I didn't till I became disolusitioned with it. And then
I was like, oh uh, Willie Brown. It's a fascinating character.
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And I was upset with documentaries. I was like, I'm
going to make a film. So I kind of went
out and started. I did not know how to make
a film. I hired you know, I I raised money
and shot a film. It's took me four years to make.
Um it's called See How They Run. It's on Netflix
and iTunes. But anyway, the point was after that again
I pivoted and I was like, Okay, I love the documentary.
I loved interviewing people. That was the best part, not producing,
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not shooting. So I thought, well, what if I'm going
to do something next? One am I curious about? And
I thought, well, I really want to understand like, or
has everyone really happen relationships at fifty end in divorce
and in divorce, like what makes a successful relationship? How
do people have a sustainable sex life that like lasts
in these relationships, or just how do you you know?
How do you like? I never learned about sex or
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relationships and people to this day's little in great sex education.
So that's what it was. But then to answer your question,
it was the first month of podcasting, I think for
the second month, and I had intern at the time
on my film. She was like, you know, there's this
thing called podcasting. You could just do an interview with
people without like cameras and just I'm a great like
no makeup, do interview people. That sounds great. And I
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hired a sound guy off Craigslist and I hadn't invited
into my house. I invited like six friends over like
married gay, straight, single dating dating on Craigslist, and I
loved it. I said, there were five hours of interviewing people,
and I thought, this is it, this is what I
want to do for my life. Like I knew it.
I felt it. It must be what people feel like
when they find the one and they're like, oh my god,
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I'm like, so I haven't looked back like for thirteen years.
You know, it's it's I just I don't know. It
just felt right, I love. I realized that that people
are craving this information. People want to know. They want
to talk about sex so badly because that was another thing.
People are like, well, who's going to open up? True?
Turns out everyone like That's why I love my job too,
because I still like go to a party or I
go out to dinner or wherever I'm at, people have
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questions they want to talk about it, and they don't
have other places to go that they feel safe they
can get their questions answer and talk about it. So
I realized then that I kind of struck something that
people are going to be really you know that this
was going to be a thing, and it and it was.
People were like it right away, just said something that UM,
I really right to when you said, you know, when
you found this, it was like finding the one. And
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I remember one of my first conversations with my now
wife and I told her, I said, listen, I have
a wife already. Her name is Radio, and she's probably
going to be the first Mrs Stout forever. Um if
you're okay with that. And I know that sounds like
it's a lot, but it's not. Though. It's it's really
like how I feel about my career, my job. I
really love it that much. Um, And it sounds like
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you have the same relationship, but I wanted to know
if you have. You know, you just said, you know,
people come up and they'll ask you questions and and
things like that. I know, I get to a point where,
you know, sometimes I'm like, dude, I can't talk to
you about your podcast. I'm like I'm I'm you know,
like painty, uh or just you know, you just want
to do it all the time. I mean, do you
have those, you know, instances where it's like a little
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too much? Absolutely No. I don't mean like I have
some parties that I go down like can we not
say what I do for a living? You know, But
usually if I'm out with friends or dinners, like, I
just find it to be like, um, I guess it
depends at the moment in the mood. I'm an like, sure,
there's some people who are like just that's all they
want to talk about. But I find it that it's
just that when I have these conversations. It's just like
the basics of sex, like people, just the stuff that
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I assume that people already know or get because I
talked about every day. They don't. So it's like I
can say one thing to a person about their sex
life they've been suffering, or their relationship, or how to
talk to their partner or where date, like how to
date differently, and like it changes them. So that feels
that feels great. It's not like it's on all night long,
but if I can help people, it feels really good.
But yes, like anything, I don't want to talk about
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twenty seven because it is my job. So I'll just
let people know I'm not shy if I'm like, yeah,
you know, I've loved podcast about that topic. You should
listen to it. What's the most what's the most popular
question you think you've gotten over the last years. Um?
I would say the most popular question is, UM, how
do I get my partner to do blank? And that
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could be like I would say, it's like mismatched. It's
about people's sex life. So how do I get my
partner to have more sex with me, less sex with me,
have an orgasm during intercourse? Why you know? Why is
my partner this way in that way? So it's more
about like a lot of my show is about communication.
I always say communication is a lubrication. How do you
talk to your partner about sex? So I'd say it's
usually like how do I even broach this and get
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what I want in bed? And then the other thing
is typically about orgasms. Women are just like, why can't
I orgasm during interports because every single porn star does.
Isn't that the right? And so I'm like, no, I
mean they'reaking it. Yeah, they're faking. It's not really how
sex happens. So there's been a whole lot of on learning,
like since so many people do learn through porn um.
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But I would say it's typically around orgasm questions and
communicating with partners. Do you get a lot of folks
that ask you about helping them with their podcasts now
that it's so popular, Because I know that there's a
very I feel like you and I know almost all
of the same quote unquote sexperts and life coaches and
dating coaches, and some of them are bullshit. I'm gonna
say it. I'm just gonna say it, um, But how
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many of them are do you get a lot of
that now. People who probably didn't care about podcasting a
few years ago, like, hey, Emily, can you help me
start my body? Everybody like people who are like really established,
like really cool. Everyone's circling back to me. And it's funny, though, Maddie,
because you know, I'm busy. Like it's like, I don't
know when I started, it was so different. So to me,
I've just been going along growing a business. I haven't
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been like studying podcasting. I've just been doing it. You
know that I've made a lot of mistakes. I mean
I can tell people the mistakes I made, but yeah,
I do get a lot of it. I feel like
we should just teach a course or something. But it
depends on the person. But I like how I'm I'm
open to do it, like even people who are other
s experts. For some reason, I was born without this
and I don't know if it's good or bad in
some ways, but I don't have a great competitive gene.
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I feel like there's even if some of the sex
podcast or it's like I'll help you should ye, they're
like I want to do a podcasts or people who
are my industry, I'm like great because I don't come
from the mentality of like like like um lack, like oh,
we're going to be competitive and people are gonna listen
to you over me. It's more like or from scarcity
or it's like abundance, like I can. I don't mind
helping people. I think the more people are there podcasting
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the better. I truly believe that. So I think that
comes from a place of confidence because when you know
it's true. I've always been pretty confident, well, when you
know what you're doing is good and that nobody else
has got the same thing going in town, that you
don't have to worry about it because I I feel
like that. I think that you know when you're you know.
I feel the people who are usually the most scared
and competitive about things are usually not very confident about
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what they do, so they're they're sure the next person
is going to take their job. That's true, I agree
with you, But I also agree that there's a certain
level of um. I've always had this like in a
way like, don't get me wrong, I'm insecure about a
lot of things in life, and even podcasting. I'm like,
oh my god, what if people I hate it? One
day but it's a certain like even when I started.
I remember I was talking to some guy in radio
who's like consulting me or like helping me out with
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the first year, and he's like, hey, like what if
somebody someone just as sex with Susan, Like what are
you gonna do? And I'm like, well, she'd be Susan
And I'm like, this is two thousand and five. I
was like then, Susan when we're talking about her things like,
I just always thought like, I'll never be as good
at being someone else is there, and they'll never be
as good at being me, and we all kind of
do ourselves. And that's literally invigoratevely sexually. We do ourselves,
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but also we do us do you? I don't know,
but I know what you're saying, and I do have
a certain level of confidence around this. So yeah, but
I think it's the way to be, Like I like
helping people. I don't. I'm always looking over my shoulder.
I don't know my competition is because I don't. I
don't think about it that way. And you know, I
think in general with broadcasting, I tell this to folks
all the time. When you're doing it well, it sounds
so easy that everybody thinks they can do it. And
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I know everybody I know I meet if i'm out,
every drunk guy's got to tell me how they should
be on the radio and tell me why. And I'm like, yeah,
you're you're right. It's that easy, you know, it's yeah,
you're right. I don't think because you're more in that world,
like I actually wish that I don't. I'm not really
like hanging out with a lot of radio people are
podcasters all the time. So I but, oh, you don't
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want to know, trust me. Yeah, but you're right. Everyone's
like have you ever talked about this? Or I'm gonna
do but I think I'm gonna do a podcast. But
literally every single day, like there is somebody who's like
doing one. I'm thinking about it. It's like it's like
when was it, like early two thousands when everyone's like
obsessed with their website. It's like website coming soon. Now
it's like podcasts coming soon. Like on everything that's funny
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with your podcast and working, you know, with the television
show and Drew, it's gonna affect your personal life. I
know personally, my wife won't listen to just about anything
I do anymore because of a couple of missteps I made.
I've said a couple of things that she heard and
was mortified by and just doesn't listen to anymore. About
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good thing, folks, your data it is. It is a
great thing because that way I'm free with what I
say and then she doesn't have to worry about it. Um.
Have you had some incidences with folks you've dated in
the past upset with that? Yes? So every guy date
tells me they don't listen, and it's a lie. Apparently
they do, but the problem is they're not listening to
the tips part, which I wish they did or we
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might be together. What they're listening to is like, oh,
you were out with someone else last week, or I'm
making a joke about saying, like so you had sex
with a guy in Mexico or whatever it is, And
I'm just like, could you listen to the part about
before play being really important because that might have been
worth my time of you listening. Um. But mostly it's
not gotten me in too much trouble. I feel like
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I prefer when they don't, Like I was like, you
don't have to listen to no presh, But they always
end up listening. And there was like a few instances
where I broke up with someone and I might have
Mostly don't talk about trash people, or if I do
talk about a date I had, I'll change the date
that I had a date, like this was a year
ago instead of last night. Foul. I have to be honest.
And Drew actually dr Joey's jokes about me. He's like,
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you're the only one you can talk about sex in
a way that's fun and playful and no one gets
mad at you. Because I haven't had a lot of
like angry angry, like even tweets or people who are
like why did you say this or do that? It's
pretty much like I don't know. People aren't really mad
about it. They're like, oh, you're helping my sex life.
But as far as like dating, yeah, I think, well
here's the problem too. So it's not just a podcast
and I do I'm dating someone now seriously, but if
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someone googles me, right, you can't like, I am sex
with Emily and you've got to like it's it's a
thing like are you cool with it? Would your parents
be cool with it? You know? So, yeah, sex has
become I didn't when I was starting out. I didn't
know it was in me in my whole life. But
now it's like google me, it's like sex, sex, sex, anal,
you know all that stuff. You gotta be cool with
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all those things. Well, and I think that's a that's
a that's a point to just in the past thirteen years,
just how like, I don't know how anybody keeps up
with it with dating now, because you know what, I
met my wife thirteen years ago. You could google somebody,
but out was about it and maybe check out there MySpace,
you know. Now It's just everybody is so much access
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to access to people's personal information. It's it's freaky. It
freaks me out to think that if I would have
to date somebody, they could just go on and see
all of this stuff about me and make a decision
before they even met me. Oh exactly, they already do that.
And now right they make the decision. They listen to
my show like they they everything, or they might cancel
because who knows, right, it's everything. And then I just
got back from south By Southwest last night and I
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was on this panel for I was moderating a panel
on femtech and like you know how people are spending
money to develop with products for women's health and women
for dating and women's reproductive rights all the stuff. But
there was a woman on there who's doing a dating
app in the blockchain, so it's super secure data so
you can check and make sure the person is really
who they say they are. And I mean there's just
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all these ways to do it. But yeah, because we are,
there's a lot of information to um to access right out.
But yeah, with dating, it's a whole thing. It's true,
like there's no there's no like first date surprise, there's
no like except for how they look. I guess they're like, oh,
that picture isn't very recent, but but really, you know,
their job, their family, where they live, where they grew up.
It's like it's it's a whole different world. And there's
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a lot more options now too, So I think that
people aren't especially like people in their twenties or millennials,
they're like not really looking at relationship with something to
really cove it, and they're just sort of dating and
having fun. But you know, it's not really about settling down,
and there's so many options it's overwhelming. You know, different
world it wasn't just like who you met out that
night at the party and then you marry them. God
(22:31):
bless you, God bless you. Uh you know, I want
to talk about the show with Dr Drew. I always
imagine that if you work closely with Dr Drew that
he is he is just constantly like texting and emailing
you and giving you advice, because I just feel like
every celebrity is always like, well doctor, I was just
talking to Dr Drew, So is it really well No, no, no,
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People like all the friends in love lie because he's
he's actually at the stay because you know, I was
there for twenty years and I've been here for five now,
and I and Drew and his wife and become very
very close friends of mine, and I was sitting next
to him on love Line in all those years, and
I and it's funny, people are always going to Drew
for things, but I and I've asked him for things
like I got bicked by a black widow last year.
I was in the hospital for weeks. So he definitely
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like called the hospitals like get her this, get her that.
But he's not analyzing me unless I ask him, Like
I'm not like Drew. What do you think about this?
But people are always and he's so Drew is the
best guy. I mean he really is like what you see,
Like there's no attitude, there's no ego around it, and
he really likes helping people. He does so um, but yeah,
we're always everyone's hitt him up with it. Whenever I'm
with him, he's like, oh, so and So I was
(23:33):
trying to get to rehab or so and so broke
up with you know, he's kind of like the person
helping everyone. I definitely feel like that about about rehab
and and and uh, you know, I know a little
bit about the suber community in l A. And it
seems like every everybody's got a doctor Drew story. I mean,
he does seem super accessible. I know he really is. No,
he is. He helped me get like two of my
friends moms or brothers into rehab, Like he knows that
(23:56):
whole world and dating and sex and stuff like that.
But yeah, working with him was It's so fun and
we still do stuff together. So it's misadvised ever going
to come back on the air because I love I
loved it. I loved it and then I did But
I'm doing another show. I am doing another show which
I can't development, no, because what happened. So, yeah, you're
(24:17):
talking about the misadvised show I did with with with
our Friend Menace. Um, that was actually a great Like
it was one season and um it was hell to
shoot a reality show in San Francisco, but it ended
up really serving me well for like I didn't look
like an asshole, and it helped with the brand a lot.
Like I moved to l A after that. It just
being on TV it's a thing, you know. But then
(24:37):
when I moved here, like I was like, oh, I've
got to figure out how to make this a business
because I was just like not really sure how to
monetize podcasting out a girl business. I didn't really think
it was in my skill set. But I was just again,
you're like, why do I keep going? I just believed
in it and but I didn't understand the financial part
of it money, And I just threw myself into it
because I was going through really hard times, like I
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did not have steady cash flows rough and I just
kind of figured out a way to monetize them before
it was a thing. And no, I mean it's tough.
I mean you know, I went through that with your
straight male friend, with our friend Marcus. You know, we
had a really good concept, a really good show, but
we didn't know what we were doing business wise, and
you know, and and that's one thing I think, I
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you know, I know I've done person in the last
few years is get to really understand digital marketing and business.
You know, when when I started the business, I I
just I talked to a ton of people. Luckily, there's
start up people everywhere. You can't start spit without hitting
one in the Bay Area. But it is tough. And
I think that's one thing. People who start podcasts get
into it with this misconception that all this is gonna
(25:38):
be really easy. I'm gonna start a podcast to make
lots of money, but who is making the thing? Is like,
I think it seems really hard. There's so much competition,
there's so much noise. Like how I mean, it's just like,
I guess, you just gotta be consistent, You've got to
keep doing it. It's helps to go on other people's podcasts,
you know. But yeah, I don't know, people really think
that we're all getting super rich of podcasts. And that's
(26:01):
the thing I don't know that. I guess I think
people are. I guess you talk to more people than
I do. Are they doing it because they're super psyched
about podcasting or they feel like they have to, like
I have to have a YouTube to YouTube channel, you know,
or have to have an Instagram account. Well, I'll say this,
the people who feel like they have to I tell
them to just stop because you're not going to be consistent.
You're not going to be good at it. You know,
if you're not passionate amountin you don't want to do it.
(26:22):
I mean, you've done a podcast consistently for thirteen years
and you did it even when you didn't know how
the listenership was, You didn't know if you were making money,
but you kept doing it because it's something you had
to do, and I think you do. And that's the
people who make it or the people it's like I
have to do this, and people are like, oh, I've
got to do this podcasting. It's like okay, then you
know you're just not going to make it in this
(26:43):
business because it's not you can't do that in podcasting.
That's true, But then what about the other people you
talk to who how about the people are just that
people look have this thing like they just love because
I do love the medium. I love that I could
just sit and talk to people and it's very intimate.
But is that the people you're talking to they're just like, wow,
it's so cool. I don't know. Well, you know, I
teach at the Cannemy of Art, University and Top Podcasting
for six years, so I get you're the man. I
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get young people who come in who absolutely had no
didn't listen to radio, don't even know a thing about audio.
They all think they want to be YouTube stars, and
then they get the first taste of audio and then
they realize, oh my gosh, this is so intimate, so real,
and it's so different video, and I'm like, yes, this
is good, and they fall in love with it, and
then they want to do it um. And then I
(27:26):
get folks who are in radio, some of the same
folks who made fun of me for going to Stitcher
when I left my morning show, who want to get
into podcasting, and a lot of them have good intentions,
but a lot of them, you know, it's it takes retraining.
It's not the same as being on the radio. It
is a different it's a different muscle. It is a
different muscle, it really is. You're right, But I love
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that your tea. If you remember that after I give
my podcast for six months, I actually got a live
show on THREFM. For like two years, I was doing
the Saray Show. So that was cool. So when I
first went to radio then too, I was like, oh
my god, love radio like I love them both. So
I get it though, but it's still that same intimate thing.
But I love that you are teaching this class. So
(28:07):
I'm sending everyone to, you know, the questions like you
really yeah, not for free, though, I got it. Yeah,
I've consultant. I like it. So I wanted to ask
you about the n C Double A Tournament. Important things
here Michigan. How are you feeling about the Wolverine. I
(28:29):
don't know. I don't need attention anymore, but I hope
they win that I don't know. I figured I thought
everybody from Michigan was kind of die hard. Now, dude,
it's been a lot of time. I was die hard.
We went to three Rose Bowls when I was in college.
Super fun. I don't care anymore. Question, I hope they
do well. My heart was, you know, love to Michigan.
Well that that that brings us to really the most
(28:51):
important part of the show. This is the section I
call three Killer questions. Emily Morse, I have three killer
questions for you. Are you ready for these? I'm ready? Okay.
First question, if you could listen to a podcast hosted
by anybody living or dead, who would it be? Oh? Um,
(29:12):
that's a great question, dude. Um you want me to
give you some examples of some of the winners. I
was thinking Barack Obama. So um. Last week we had
the folks from NPRS The Cooler on and they said,
which was funny. They said they wanted to hear Macaulay
cull Can do a podcast and guess who announced the
podcast this week announced? It is so weird. Um. And
(29:34):
then the best one I think I've heard yet is
one of my students said they'd like to hear Whitney
and Bobby Brown do a podcast back when they were together.
Oh that's funny. That's a good one. Yeah. Um. Marri
Monroe was another good one. Yeah. Um. I also say
Barack Obama. I don't listen to a ton of podcasts,
I really don't, but I think he'd be good because
I love him and I want to hear him more
(29:55):
because especially what's going on in the world. I think
you'd be interesting, like what he learned talking about it.
I don't know him and Michelle. I think that would
be good if they can just do it. Yes, why not?
Maybe the we guess in my show talk about how
they keep their marriage so strong after you know, being
in the White House and all that podcast. Yes we can. Well,
it's funny because sex with Emily. For so long it
(30:16):
was like, oh, people won't come on your show, celebrities,
they don't talk about sex. But now it's like no,
people don't really people are ready to talk about anything,
which I love. Um, yeah, what's next question? Next question
is finish the sentence. The next big thing in sex
is um. I would say virtual reality really m so,
(30:37):
like how real is it going to get with virtual
pretty real? Like I went to Amsterdam and I went
there to check out like virtual realities. I like the
the the I things on what do they call it,
the whole head thing and watched porn and it felt
very real. And there's also all these toys. I think
sex tech is a really big thing right now, sex robots, um,
(30:59):
there's like I mean, the robots are coming, people are
going to want them, and um, I think it looks
pretty realistic. And now there's all you know, I talked
a lot about toys. There's now toys that are connected
with an app, that have an app, So you could
like have a vibe Rtar toy and you're better gonna
be in China and they could be you could be
controlling it through your phone. Yeah, and and I think like, yeah,
(31:21):
virtual reality porn, like people will never leave their house.
I'm not saying that's a good thing. Um, But the
next thing in sex, I don't know. Yeah, I would
say just the technology around sex, but hopefully people will
be having better sex, more consensual sex. And I think
this is a time for women really to step up.
And this is what I hope just kind of understand
that they have the power of sex. It's not for
(31:42):
the guy, it's for their own pleasure. But that's what
I've been talking about for a long time. Hey, last
last question you were talking about you don't listen to
a lot of podcasts, But what was the last one
that you binged? Um? Oh you know what I know,
I do. I actually I'm starting to listen to more.
I was just saying, who would I want to listen?
I listened to Um, I listened to the last one.
I listen to his dirty Job I've been Yeah, did
(32:03):
you listen to it? No? Oh, dirty John, I'm sorry.
I thought you said dirty jobs. I was like, oh, yeah,
I love my dirtie John. It's like when I did.
And I thought it was good, you know, For me,
I had a lot of I thought there were a
lot of problems with it as far as I didn't
really have any empathy for the main character, for the woman.
After a while, I was kind of like, yeah, yeah,
I really not that right, right, yeah, right, but recent yeah,
(32:27):
go ahead, No, but it was good, I mean it,
you know. And yeah, I'm a very hard judge on
on like those kinds of podcasts as far as like
the level I wanted to be at. So I thought
it was very very good. But I think for somebody
that like me, who listens to a lot of those
kind of podcasts, it was I was kind of I
was like, yeah, but I just don't feel the empathy
like I do for like the guy's s town, you know, right.
(32:48):
And I didn't listen to and I didn't listen to Seil,
so I know, but what happened was like three people
in a row. I was going to roach up. They
kept telling me listen to it, and I listened to it.
I was like, oh, maybe I kind of get into
these kind of podcasts like like Seriah, which I never
got into like the Yeah. So anyway, what else I
listened to? I don't know. Right now. J Moore is
going to be on my show tomorrow, so I'm listening
to his podcast, uh More Stories. Yeah, J's J's great.
(33:12):
Ja Yeah. J J used to come on the show
a lot when I was We came out Open Anthony
and a lot when I worked there, and then he
started coming on in San Francisco with us, and then
I forget there was some kind of, you know, one
of those dumb on air falling outs, and then I
haven't talked to you, So anyway, I haven't listening to that.
I listened to Tim Ferris sometimes, but now I you know,
I don't listen to a ton of them. But yeah,
(33:33):
I dabble inspiration. I think Dirty John is. I think
it's and again I kind of don't want to sund
like I'm trashing on it because it is great you know,
it's a lot better ones now that are the mystery. Like,
I just didn't think I was all going to be
all about that stuff, but I like it the story
getting me hooked, and I'm not like to have to
focus on I was like, yeah, I get it, I
get what people love it. What's that is? I'm going
to probably have the guy from Dirty John on in
(33:55):
a couple of weeks or something, and then I'll be like,
go back and erase that. I don't want anybody to
hear that exactly. Yeah, that's that's the only great thing
on podcast. And we can edit stuff like when I
took the stories, Like my friend told me a story
about an X and I told it on my show.
I was like, oh, she'll kill me. We gotta edit
that out. But it was a really good story. I
don't have that much. But when you suck up, but
you know people are gonna be mad at you, you
know you gotta do it sometimes you have to. But no,
(34:18):
I like to investigative journalism what I do. I'm into them.
But you're right Dirty John with my So now I
feel like I should listen to Cereal. Did you like Cereal? Oh? Yeah, Cereal?
I mean the first season. The second season, I wasn't
as hip on, but I mean everybody, everybody should listen
to the first season because it's groundbreaking and it changed
the face of podcast I know. See. And I didn't
have time because I was building a business. But now
I have more time. So I'm actually right now as
(34:38):
we're talking, I do remember that. I'm john living that one.
How I miss it? I don't know. You'd probably like,
I mean, there's so many good podcasts out there. I'll
send you a list. I'll send you a list, so
you yeah, because you're like the expert, tell me would
love besides mine, of course, but I would love that.
I would actually love that. Okay, Yeah, or just go
back and listen to all my old shows because they're
all over us. Yeah it's not last night access podcast. Yeah, Emily,
(35:04):
what's uh? What's the What's What's news? So you've got
a TV show? Yeah, I'm developing that books thing. I
mean the podcast we you know, we're doing two podcasts
a week. I'm doing more. I'm gonna be doing more
live podcasts. So I want to do more like improvs
and um do more lot because I love helping people.
Think is that. The other thing, I'm doing a podcast,
Like I'm in this room doing my podcast all the
(35:25):
time that I have listeners all over the world, definitely
all over the country. So I'm doing going to do
more like um appearances and meet my listeners and stuff
like that, which I love doing. When I'm out they're like,
oh my god, I love the show. I'm like, I
want to make this fople because I also love doing
a live podcast. But then helping people in the audience,
like doing some kind of like you know people you
you think people wouldn't ask questions in the second like
(35:45):
one person raised their hand, They're like, I've got this
problem with my penis. You're like, oh, he can talk
about that, and then it starts going and that there's
certain it's it's really I really enjoy doing those, So
I'll be doing that. Um yeah, what else. There's a
lot of things happening. I'm doing Wanderlust I don't know
if you wanted less, and do like ten festivals around
the world, and I'm going to be the sex and
Wellness sponsor and all their festivals like an experience. So no,
(36:07):
it's all on seximily dot com. Well, Emily, thanks for
coming on my little podcast. Yeah, it was so good
to talk to you. Thanks for reaching out. Best of
luck with all your new indeavors. You're awesome. Sounds great.
You're awesome too. Okay, good, I'll talk to by Maddie
(36:29):
so Ze. Can I tell you something for it. That's
the first time I've ever been on a podcast with
Emily where I didn't go into my sex life. Oh
my god, because because normally she comes, she's been on.
I had a relationship called your Straight Male Friend. I
had it for like eight years, and she'd come on
and we do it, and we invariably, you know, i'd
(36:49):
embarrassed my wife and talk about our sex life. And
then you know I had interviewed her for another show
as well. Um. So I was really proud that I
got through that whole thing without her diving in and
asking me anything. She tried to a couple of times.
She tried to beat you. She tried to beat me
a couple of times, but I didn't catch. I didn't catch.
My wife would be so proud. There we go. She
(37:12):
will not know she she knows Emily's on. There's no
way she's gonna But it's still a good episode. It's fun.
I like Emily a lot, and I think that she
really makes a point that you know, we we always
tell everybody consistency is everything. And Emily did her podcast
even when she wasn't making money off of it, even
when you know, it seemed like it wasn't getting traction,
(37:34):
she just kept doing it and now she's doing great
with it. So it pays off. It pays off. What
do you got for us this week? Alright? So we
are on the same trend of relationship advice podcast and
the first one is Savage Love Cast, but dance Savage.
This has been this has been around for god, I
think twelve years, yeah, around that time. Yeah, And I
(37:56):
really like it because his voice is so it feels
so familiar and friendly, and it's unfiltered. He's funny, and
it's just really all around good advice. Yeah, he's very likable.
Let's check it out. There is no the one. There
are lots of potential ones. But if anybody's out there
dating or swiping knows the search takes time and effort
(38:16):
and it can be agonizing, lee frustrating. That's a good one.
That and that's that's that's that's old school podcast right there? Yeah,
what else bringing it? So my next one is called
Nancy and it is by Cathy two and Tobin Low
and they're best friends and they do this podcast, so
their chemistry really comes through on the podcast. And it's
(38:37):
about the lgbt Q experience. And I like it because
I don't. I feel like there's not a lot of
podcasts out that is inclusive like that, and this is
just basically all about lgbt Q. So I like it.
And then they're que and it's a good podcast even
if you're not in the community, Okay, let's check it out.
And being in this store and looking up at the
(39:00):
story keeper Maura and thinking like, oh my gosh, um
and it's it's kind of like it was a very
charged moment and I was like instantly taken back there.
Sarah suddenly realizes that Maura was her ring of keys person,
the adult the showed her who she could be someday.
That sounds fun. We'll check that one out. I like that. So,
(39:21):
and my last one is Modern Love and this is
by w bu R in New York Times and they're
like tagline is Stories of Love, loss and Redemption, and
its readers submitted essays that are read by notable people
and famous people and sometimes even the essayists themselves. And
I like it because it switches it up, you know.
(39:42):
Sometimes you want the voice of the person that wrote it.
Sometimes you're like, oh, I know who that person is. Yeah,
these are really cool. This is this is one of
those great When they launched this podcast, I was like,
that is a good idea. It really was. Let's hear one.
Isn't buying an expensive couch a kind of lovely expression
of hopeful And after I'm gone, don't I still want
(40:03):
my guests in my home to feel comfortable and stylish.
None of this was supposed to happen at thirty eight.
I wasn't supposed to lie on my back in the
ear on a late December morning and be told by
a tiery radiation oncology resident that the pain I've been
having for two months that I've been assured was from
having a week core after months of chemo, was actually
(40:25):
from a tumor that had devoured my l two vertebra z.
Those are all good suggestions, very good job this week.
Of course, you can find all of those on the
I Heart radio apps, so go go check those out
and check us out. Thanks for listening to us. I
know mercury is in retrograde and it makes everything bad.
Just just breathe in, get through it. The months almost over.
(40:46):
You'll make it. Let's thank our producer Z. What's up?
Thank you. We're back to the beginning off my game today.
Casey Franco did our music, Dalton Runberg did the art.
Our engineers are David Walt. David almost said David Walton.
(41:08):
I mean there's been a there's been an office marathon
on Comedy Central for like two weeks. David, David Williams,
Horse Wong, and Red. Thank you guys so much. Thanks
for Katie Wilcox here at and Don Parker here at
San Francisco's iHeart, and Chris Peterson of course the Godfather
podcasting for I Heart. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm just awful.
(41:32):
Daniel Arcury, I'll be better next week. Tune in then,
see you bye.
Hey, everybody, I'm Maddie. That's great. Stick with that, all right,
Hey Maddie, this is access podcast podcast about podcasts. You know,
Mercury is in retro gray. Things are all wacky here
at I Heeart Radio. I'm I'm snippy, I'm snappy. Everybody
(00:24):
else is snippy and snappy. But what's not snappy and
snappy is our guest today. She's wonderful. I've known her
for a long time, ten years now, Emily Morrise. She
got one of the oldest sex podcast going though out there.
It's called Sex with Emily uh, and it's been a
mainstay in the podcast community for gears. So we're gonna
talk to Emily on the other side. But gosh, I
hope this clip isn't too X rated. Here's why I
(00:46):
always say communication is a lubrication, because so many of
our sexual challenges are around finding the right words to communicate,
and not only that, continuing to communicate and taking it
to the next levels. And as we think, well, I
talked about it, and therefore it's done, and my partner's
just gonna understand what I'm saying. And I think when
we really tell our partners of things that we think
we cannot say. That's really when the vulnerability happens a
(01:07):
connection and enhance his intimacy. So say those things, you guys.
Life is too short for bad sex. So the sooner
you're address whatever it is in your mind with your
partner that you trust and love, the sooner you'll be
having amazing sex, the sex that you want and that
you deserve and joining me my friend Emily from Sex
with Emily Hi, Emily Hi. I always want to ask
(01:28):
you this question, so I'm gonna start with it right
off the bat, do it. Don't you ever get tired
of talking about sex all the time? You know that
is a great question because I've dow a podcast now
for thirteen years, and I often at the beginning people
are like, aren't you ever gonna get tired of sex?
So there's gonna be nothing to talk about? And I
have to say that it's I'm still not I still
(01:49):
love doing the podcast after thirteen years, because it's never
the same. I mean, sex is so nuance. I guess
if it was a chef, he would say, where are
you getting tired of? You know, talking about cooking? You're
teaching cooking, And the truth is there's always different ways
to talk about sex and to learn about sex. So
there's a lot of different paths. It's not just about
missionary position, you know, there's a lot of sex, dating, relationships, marriage, love.
(02:10):
So no, I don't. Maybe maybe I asked the question
because my sex life is so vanilla exactly sex life. See,
my job is to make sure that no one's sex
life is vanilla, including my own. So hey, I'm always
learning as well. How about that, I I will this
is not what I'm sure we're gonna end up talking
(02:31):
about some sex stuff, but your sex life, well yeah,
because no, So you and I've talked many times over
the years and every time I kind of give you
the same rundown, and it's it's dude has a change.
So I got my routine, it works whatever. Um, okay,
I want to get back at what you just said.
(02:51):
Thirteen years of doing a podcast, and that's I mean
in this business. I I talked to people all the
time and they're like, wow, you've been casting for ten
years and I'm like, yeah, but there's been folks in
a lot longer than me. Thirteen years. Yeah, how do
you feel about the business from when you started to
what it's like today. I mean when I started up
(03:13):
until a few years ago, it was like wait, what podcast?
What is that? How do you do it? So, you know,
I'm just glad that there's more. Like I'm glad that
there are so many podcasts right now. There was no
business of podcasting until about a few years ago, meaning
like how do you make money doing podcasting? Is it
a thing? So I think it's great that now people
are really like paying attention to it, they're listening to
podcasts that people, advertisers are taking it seriously, businesses are
(03:36):
taken seriously. So I think the more of the merrier, Like,
so I'm glad that it's evolving and growing, and you know,
it's great for business, it's great for everyone. You know,
people can now listen. You know, there's five minute thousand podcasts.
So what I think that when you and I both started,
you know, I know when I left radio, it was
it was like a dirty word if I said podcasting,
people like, so why do podcast nerds? Exactly? And you've
(04:02):
seen it change a lot. What has kept you on
doing the podcast for so long? Like what what is
what about the medium has made you keep doing it
through the times when it was not cool to do it. Yeah,
it was never cool, and it wasn't cool, nor was
it like profitable. You know, I went through a lot
of rough times trying to make this thing happen. I
think I just really, well, here's the thing. I haven't
only been podcasting for thirteen years, you know, I actually
(04:25):
have always released a podcast pretty much every week for
thirteen years. But I you know, I do a lot
of other things as well. So I moved to l A.
So I was in San Francisco with you. I moved
here five years ago and I started doing Loveline with
Dr Drew and um every you know, once a week
for five years. And that also really that was really fun.
So I love doing radio. Um, I do television, I write,
(04:46):
I do a lot of our things. So what case
me going with it is that, first of all, now
I have my own studio in l A. I feel
like the podcast is always evolving too. So if you
listen to one from Men five years ago, it's a
lot different to what it is now. And since I
have a lot more listener as, I just think I
keep kind of improving upon it and keep challenging myself
and my listeners. So excuse me going because I find
it infinitely fascinating, you know, I do. I still love
(05:08):
doing it. It's easier to do now because again I
do a studio and a great staff and a great team. Um,
but I think it's I don't know, I mean, and
I love like I'm doing more video and more writing,
so it's kind of like I have a business built
around it. It's definitely my main thing. But I just
do it because I think it's a great I'm glad
I held it in there, you know, because people actually
know what it is now. So do you ever go
(05:29):
back and listen to some of your older podcasts? I don't.
I know that I should. I would be horrified, but
I finally should. I have them all here. Um, it's
changed a lot because when I started, I wasn't the
expert in sex. I was coming from a documentary filmmaker background,
and I was more like, hey, how do you all
have great sex? Because I know that I think my
sex life isn't so great. I mean, it's okay, but
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how does it? You know? So it started out me
not giving advice, and that kind of I got me
back to school, got my doctorate, so you know, it's
kind of it's change a lot. Let's talk about the
evolution of that. So, first of all, what was high
school Emily? Like? I was kind of approved, to be honest,
I wasn't like. I wasn't very I was popular, I
had a lot of friends. I guess I was friends
with everybody. I was, um, I don't know. I was more.
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I wasn't that. I didn't really come into myself until
I wasn't in college, Like I think I was sort
of not taking school that seriously and I had a
lot of friends, but I kind of dabbled a lot
of different things. So I was more high school Emily.
Isn't that interesting? High school Emily had a lot of
messed up child and stuff. And I think I was
just trying to get out of the house. And how
about Michigan Wolverine Emily. Michigan Wolverine Emily. So when I
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got to Michigan, I was super driven and really into
school and working and career. And I worked in Paula.
I made it in politics, so I was like work
and then I, um, but like I started really hard.
I got all as, I had internships and stuff like that,
and then I moved to San Francisco. I don't touched.
I was fun though, don't get me wrong. Time majored
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in politics. Yes, what why did you major in politics?
What was your what was what was the draw for you?
So what happened was I got to college and I
was very like I couldn't believe. I took like Polly
Policie one on one or something, and I remember thinking like, wow,
there's only two women in the Senate, and I was
really involved women's issues. I took my first women's studies
class and I was like, how are the only two
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women the Senate have to work getting women elected to office?
So I started volunteering on campus. And then senior year,
I was reading the paper and said like it was
the year of the Woman in San Francisco because like
Boxer and fine Sign and Pelosi were running. I was like,
I'm want to move there. And I just got in
my car and drove to San Francisco. And that's kind
of how it all started. So that's that's what interested me.
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And it was like changing the world through politics. And
I worked in San Francisco for ten years of politics.
I don't know if you know that. I worked for
Willie Brown, and and then you met me when I
started the whole podcast thing, and then I hit a
film about Willie Brown, and I don't know, then I
got involved politics, but I was always like, but sex,
here's the thing. I always a serious So, going back
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to how it relates sex with Emily, I was a
serial monogamist. I always had boyfriends, like for two years,
two years and then in my twenties, and I was like,
I never was that interested though, in long term relationships
or marriage. I was very much driven by, like my
purpose on the planet of doing something that felt like
it was going to fulfill me and change the world.
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Because I was raised by my mom who was like,
never relying anyone to take care of you. So I thought, well,
I'm always gonna be working. What am I going to
do that I'm really excited about? So I found myself
always confounded by relationships because I would date nice guys
and they were like, well, what's the you know, let's
move in or let's get married, and I was like,
I'm not really interested. And so then I realized that,
like I was more interested in learning about why that
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was the case, Like maybe I could study relationships and
sex and then I would want that traditional thing, and
after thirteen years, I can tell you that I can
have I'm in much healthier relationships now in the sense
of I know what I want, what I don't want,
and my sex life is deaf really better. But I think,
like I was always just kind of I think the
problem with relationships and what I'm trying to change through
my podcast is that all we see is like, you know, monogamy,
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like sign up monogamy, one person for the rest of
our life, told death do his part. And I think
and I'm not saying everyone should be like swingers or
free love. I'm not saying that either. I'm just saying
that we get to create what kind of relationships you
want to be in, what kind of sex like we
want to have. And I don't think that we're ever
taught or even told that we have options to des
find what we want. And I'd like to give people
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ways to talk about sex and relationships in a way
that's very approachable. Yeah, So I'm gonna I wanna want
to want to pause back for a little bit. So
in two thousand five, what was the thing that got
you to do this fool? I know you started, you know,
you made a documentary. How did all that turn into? Heck,
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this is what I want to do with my life.
Oh well, um, let's see, since since figuring out my life,
purpose was my main draw in life was my main focus.
Since a lot of people it's like, how do I
find a partner to get married? I was like, so
everything I did, like even politics. I loved it until
I didn't till I became disolusitioned with it. And then
I was like, oh uh, Willie Brown. It's a fascinating character.
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And I was upset with documentaries. I was like, I'm
going to make a film. So I kind of went
out and started. I did not know how to make
a film. I hired you know, I I raised money
and shot a film. It's took me four years to make.
Um it's called See How They Run. It's on Netflix
and iTunes. But anyway, the point was after that again
I pivoted and I was like, Okay, I love the documentary.
I loved interviewing people. That was the best part, not producing,
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not shooting. So I thought, well, what if I'm going
to do something next? One am I curious about? And
I thought, well, I really want to understand like, or
has everyone really happen relationships at fifty end in divorce
and in divorce, like what makes a successful relationship? How
do people have a sustainable sex life that like lasts
in these relationships, or just how do you you know?
How do you like? I never learned about sex or
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relationships and people to this day's little in great sex education.
So that's what it was. But then to answer your question,
it was the first month of podcasting, I think for
the second month, and I had intern at the time
on my film. She was like, you know, there's this
thing called podcasting. You could just do an interview with
people without like cameras and just I'm a great like
no makeup, do interview people. That sounds great. And I
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hired a sound guy off Craigslist and I hadn't invited
into my house. I invited like six friends over like
married gay, straight, single dating dating on Craigslist, and I
loved it. I said, there were five hours of interviewing people,
and I thought, this is it, this is what I
want to do for my life. Like I knew it.
I felt it. It must be what people feel like
when they find the one and they're like, oh my god,
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I'm like, so I haven't looked back like for thirteen years.
You know, it's it's I just I don't know. It
just felt right, I love. I realized that that people
are craving this information. People want to know. They want
to talk about sex so badly because that was another thing.
People are like, well, who's going to open up? True?
Turns out everyone like That's why I love my job too,
because I still like go to a party or I
go out to dinner or wherever I'm at, people have
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questions they want to talk about it, and they don't
have other places to go that they feel safe they
can get their questions answer and talk about it. So
I realized then that I kind of struck something that
people are going to be really you know that this
was going to be a thing, and it and it was.
People were like it right away, just said something that UM,
I really right to when you said, you know, when
you found this, it was like finding the one. And
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I remember one of my first conversations with my now
wife and I told her, I said, listen, I have
a wife already. Her name is Radio, and she's probably
going to be the first Mrs Stout forever. Um if
you're okay with that. And I know that sounds like
it's a lot, but it's not. Though. It's it's really
like how I feel about my career, my job. I
really love it that much. Um, And it sounds like
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you have the same relationship, but I wanted to know
if you have. You know, you just said, you know,
people come up and they'll ask you questions and and
things like that. I know, I get to a point where,
you know, sometimes I'm like, dude, I can't talk to
you about your podcast. I'm like I'm I'm you know,
like painty, uh or just you know, you just want
to do it all the time. I mean, do you
have those, you know, instances where it's like a little
(13:13):
too much? Absolutely No. I don't mean like I have
some parties that I go down like can we not
say what I do for a living? You know, But
usually if I'm out with friends or dinners, like, I
just find it to be like, um, I guess it
depends at the moment in the mood. I'm an like, sure,
there's some people who are like just that's all they
want to talk about. But I find it that it's
just that when I have these conversations. It's just like
the basics of sex, like people, just the stuff that
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I assume that people already know or get because I
talked about every day. They don't. So it's like I
can say one thing to a person about their sex
life they've been suffering, or their relationship, or how to
talk to their partner or where date, like how to
date differently, and like it changes them. So that feels
that feels great. It's not like it's on all night long,
but if I can help people, it feels really good.
But yes, like anything, I don't want to talk about
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twenty seven because it is my job. So I'll just
let people know I'm not shy if I'm like, yeah,
you know, I've loved podcast about that topic. You should
listen to it. What's the most what's the most popular
question you think you've gotten over the last years. Um?
I would say the most popular question is, UM, how
do I get my partner to do blank? And that
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could be like I would say, it's like mismatched. It's
about people's sex life. So how do I get my
partner to have more sex with me, less sex with me,
have an orgasm during intercourse? Why you know? Why is
my partner this way in that way? So it's more
about like a lot of my show is about communication.
I always say communication is a lubrication. How do you
talk to your partner about sex? So I'd say it's
usually like how do I even broach this and get
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what I want in bed? And then the other thing
is typically about orgasms. Women are just like, why can't
I orgasm during interports because every single porn star does.
Isn't that the right? And so I'm like, no, I
mean they'reaking it. Yeah, they're faking. It's not really how
sex happens. So there's been a whole lot of on learning,
like since so many people do learn through porn um.
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But I would say it's typically around orgasm questions and
communicating with partners. Do you get a lot of folks
that ask you about helping them with their podcasts now
that it's so popular, Because I know that there's a
very I feel like you and I know almost all
of the same quote unquote sexperts and life coaches and
dating coaches, and some of them are bullshit. I'm gonna
say it. I'm just gonna say it, um, But how
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many of them are do you get a lot of
that now. People who probably didn't care about podcasting a
few years ago, like, hey, Emily, can you help me
start my body? Everybody like people who are like really established,
like really cool. Everyone's circling back to me. And it's funny, though, Maddie,
because you know, I'm busy. Like it's like, I don't
know when I started, it was so different. So to me,
I've just been going along growing a business. I haven't
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been like studying podcasting. I've just been doing it. You
know that I've made a lot of mistakes. I mean
I can tell people the mistakes I made, but yeah,
I do get a lot of it. I feel like
we should just teach a course or something. But it
depends on the person. But I like how I'm I'm
open to do it, like even people who are other
s experts. For some reason, I was born without this
and I don't know if it's good or bad in
some ways, but I don't have a great competitive gene.
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I feel like there's even if some of the sex
podcast or it's like I'll help you should ye, they're
like I want to do a podcasts or people who
are my industry, I'm like great because I don't come
from the mentality of like like like um lack, like oh,
we're going to be competitive and people are gonna listen
to you over me. It's more like or from scarcity
or it's like abundance, like I can. I don't mind
helping people. I think the more people are there podcasting
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the better. I truly believe that. So I think that
comes from a place of confidence because when you know
it's true. I've always been pretty confident, well, when you
know what you're doing is good and that nobody else
has got the same thing going in town, that you
don't have to worry about it because I I feel
like that. I think that you know when you're you know.
I feel the people who are usually the most scared
and competitive about things are usually not very confident about
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what they do, so they're they're sure the next person
is going to take their job. That's true, I agree
with you, But I also agree that there's a certain
level of um. I've always had this like in a
way like, don't get me wrong, I'm insecure about a
lot of things in life, and even podcasting. I'm like,
oh my god, what if people I hate it? One
day but it's a certain like even when I started.
I remember I was talking to some guy in radio
who's like consulting me or like helping me out with
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the first year, and he's like, hey, like what if
somebody someone just as sex with Susan, Like what are
you gonna do? And I'm like, well, she'd be Susan
And I'm like, this is two thousand and five. I
was like then, Susan when we're talking about her things like,
I just always thought like, I'll never be as good
at being someone else is there, and they'll never be
as good at being me, and we all kind of
do ourselves. And that's literally invigoratevely sexually. We do ourselves,
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but also we do us do you? I don't know,
but I know what you're saying, and I do have
a certain level of confidence around this. So yeah, but
I think it's the way to be, Like I like
helping people. I don't. I'm always looking over my shoulder.
I don't know my competition is because I don't. I
don't think about it that way. And you know, I
think in general with broadcasting, I tell this to folks
all the time. When you're doing it well, it sounds
so easy that everybody thinks they can do it. And
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I know everybody I know I meet if i'm out,
every drunk guy's got to tell me how they should
be on the radio and tell me why. And I'm like, yeah,
you're you're right. It's that easy, you know, it's yeah,
you're right. I don't think because you're more in that world,
like I actually wish that I don't. I'm not really
like hanging out with a lot of radio people are
podcasters all the time. So I but, oh, you don't
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want to know, trust me. Yeah, but you're right. Everyone's
like have you ever talked about this? Or I'm gonna
do but I think I'm gonna do a podcast. But
literally every single day, like there is somebody who's like
doing one. I'm thinking about it. It's like it's like
when was it, like early two thousands when everyone's like
obsessed with their website. It's like website coming soon. Now
it's like podcasts coming soon. Like on everything that's funny
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with your podcast and working, you know, with the television
show and Drew, it's gonna affect your personal life. I
know personally, my wife won't listen to just about anything
I do anymore because of a couple of missteps I made.
I've said a couple of things that she heard and
was mortified by and just doesn't listen to anymore. About
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good thing, folks, your data it is. It is a
great thing because that way I'm free with what I
say and then she doesn't have to worry about it. Um.
Have you had some incidences with folks you've dated in
the past upset with that? Yes? So every guy date
tells me they don't listen, and it's a lie. Apparently
they do, but the problem is they're not listening to
the tips part, which I wish they did or we
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might be together. What they're listening to is like, oh,
you were out with someone else last week, or I'm
making a joke about saying, like so you had sex
with a guy in Mexico or whatever it is, And
I'm just like, could you listen to the part about
before play being really important because that might have been
worth my time of you listening. Um. But mostly it's
not gotten me in too much trouble. I feel like
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I prefer when they don't, Like I was like, you
don't have to listen to no presh, But they always
end up listening. And there was like a few instances
where I broke up with someone and I might have
Mostly don't talk about trash people, or if I do
talk about a date I had, I'll change the date
that I had a date, like this was a year
ago instead of last night. Foul. I have to be honest.
And Drew actually dr Joey's jokes about me. He's like,
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you're the only one you can talk about sex in
a way that's fun and playful and no one gets
mad at you. Because I haven't had a lot of
like angry angry, like even tweets or people who are
like why did you say this or do that? It's
pretty much like I don't know. People aren't really mad
about it. They're like, oh, you're helping my sex life.
But as far as like dating, yeah, I think, well
here's the problem too. So it's not just a podcast
and I do I'm dating someone now seriously, but if
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someone googles me, right, you can't like, I am sex
with Emily and you've got to like it's it's a
thing like are you cool with it? Would your parents
be cool with it? You know? So, yeah, sex has
become I didn't when I was starting out. I didn't
know it was in me in my whole life. But
now it's like google me, it's like sex, sex, sex, anal,
you know all that stuff. You gotta be cool with
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all those things. Well, and I think that's a that's
a that's a point to just in the past thirteen years,
just how like, I don't know how anybody keeps up
with it with dating now, because you know what, I
met my wife thirteen years ago. You could google somebody,
but out was about it and maybe check out there MySpace,
you know. Now It's just everybody is so much access
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to access to people's personal information. It's it's freaky. It
freaks me out to think that if I would have
to date somebody, they could just go on and see
all of this stuff about me and make a decision
before they even met me. Oh exactly, they already do that.
And now right they make the decision. They listen to
my show like they they everything, or they might cancel
because who knows, right, it's everything. And then I just
got back from south By Southwest last night and I
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was on this panel for I was moderating a panel
on femtech and like you know how people are spending
money to develop with products for women's health and women
for dating and women's reproductive rights all the stuff. But
there was a woman on there who's doing a dating
app in the blockchain, so it's super secure data so
you can check and make sure the person is really
who they say they are. And I mean there's just
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all these ways to do it. But yeah, because we are,
there's a lot of information to um to access right out.
But yeah, with dating, it's a whole thing. It's true,
like there's no there's no like first date surprise, there's
no like except for how they look. I guess they're like, oh,
that picture isn't very recent, but but really, you know,
their job, their family, where they live, where they grew up.
It's like it's it's a whole different world. And there's
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a lot more options now too, So I think that
people aren't especially like people in their twenties or millennials,
they're like not really looking at relationship with something to
really cove it, and they're just sort of dating and
having fun. But you know, it's not really about settling down,
and there's so many options it's overwhelming. You know, different
world it wasn't just like who you met out that
night at the party and then you marry them. God
(22:31):
bless you, God bless you. Uh you know, I want
to talk about the show with Dr Drew. I always
imagine that if you work closely with Dr Drew that
he is he is just constantly like texting and emailing
you and giving you advice, because I just feel like
every celebrity is always like, well doctor, I was just
talking to Dr Drew, So is it really well No, no, no,
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People like all the friends in love lie because he's
he's actually at the stay because you know, I was
there for twenty years and I've been here for five now,
and I and Drew and his wife and become very
very close friends of mine, and I was sitting next
to him on love Line in all those years, and
I and it's funny, people are always going to Drew
for things, but I and I've asked him for things
like I got bicked by a black widow last year.
I was in the hospital for weeks. So he definitely
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like called the hospitals like get her this, get her that.
But he's not analyzing me unless I ask him, Like
I'm not like Drew. What do you think about this?
But people are always and he's so Drew is the
best guy. I mean he really is like what you see,
Like there's no attitude, there's no ego around it, and
he really likes helping people. He does so um, but yeah,
we're always everyone's hitt him up with it. Whenever I'm
with him, he's like, oh, so and So I was
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trying to get to rehab or so and so broke
up with you know, he's kind of like the person
helping everyone. I definitely feel like that about about rehab
and and and uh, you know, I know a little
bit about the suber community in l A. And it
seems like every everybody's got a doctor Drew story. I mean,
he does seem super accessible. I know he really is. No,
he is. He helped me get like two of my
friends moms or brothers into rehab, Like he knows that
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whole world and dating and sex and stuff like that.
But yeah, working with him was It's so fun and
we still do stuff together. So it's misadvised ever going
to come back on the air because I love I
loved it. I loved it and then I did But
I'm doing another show. I am doing another show which
I can't development, no, because what happened. So, yeah, you're
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talking about the misadvised show I did with with with
our Friend Menace. Um, that was actually a great Like
it was one season and um it was hell to
shoot a reality show in San Francisco, but it ended
up really serving me well for like I didn't look
like an asshole, and it helped with the brand a lot.
Like I moved to l A after that. It just
being on TV it's a thing, you know. But then
(24:37):
when I moved here, like I was like, oh, I've
got to figure out how to make this a business
because I was just like not really sure how to
monetize podcasting out a girl business. I didn't really think
it was in my skill set. But I was just again,
you're like, why do I keep going? I just believed
in it and but I didn't understand the financial part
of it money, And I just threw myself into it
because I was going through really hard times, like I
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did not have steady cash flows rough and I just
kind of figured out a way to monetize them before
it was a thing. And no, I mean it's tough.
I mean you know, I went through that with your
straight male friend, with our friend Marcus. You know, we
had a really good concept, a really good show, but
we didn't know what we were doing business wise, and
you know, and and that's one thing I think, I
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you know, I know I've done person in the last
few years is get to really understand digital marketing and business.
You know, when when I started the business, I I
just I talked to a ton of people. Luckily, there's
start up people everywhere. You can't start spit without hitting
one in the Bay Area. But it is tough. And
I think that's one thing. People who start podcasts get
into it with this misconception that all this is gonna
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be really easy. I'm gonna start a podcast to make
lots of money, but who is making the thing? Is like,
I think it seems really hard. There's so much competition,
there's so much noise. Like how I mean, it's just like,
I guess, you just gotta be consistent, You've got to
keep doing it. It's helps to go on other people's podcasts,
you know. But yeah, I don't know, people really think
that we're all getting super rich of podcasts. And that's
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the thing I don't know that. I guess I think
people are. I guess you talk to more people than
I do. Are they doing it because they're super psyched
about podcasting or they feel like they have to, like
I have to have a YouTube to YouTube channel, you know,
or have to have an Instagram account. Well, I'll say this,
the people who feel like they have to I tell
them to just stop because you're not going to be consistent.
You're not going to be good at it. You know,
if you're not passionate amountin you don't want to do it.
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I mean, you've done a podcast consistently for thirteen years
and you did it even when you didn't know how
the listenership was, You didn't know if you were making money,
but you kept doing it because it's something you had
to do, and I think you do. And that's the
people who make it or the people it's like I
have to do this, and people are like, oh, I've
got to do this podcasting. It's like okay, then you
know you're just not going to make it in this
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business because it's not you can't do that in podcasting.
That's true, But then what about the other people you
talk to who how about the people are just that
people look have this thing like they just love because
I do love the medium. I love that I could
just sit and talk to people and it's very intimate.
But is that the people you're talking to they're just like, wow,
it's so cool. I don't know. Well, you know, I
teach at the Cannemy of Art, University and Top Podcasting
for six years, so I get you're the man. I
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get young people who come in who absolutely had no
didn't listen to radio, don't even know a thing about audio.
They all think they want to be YouTube stars, and
then they get the first taste of audio and then
they realize, oh my gosh, this is so intimate, so real,
and it's so different video, and I'm like, yes, this
is good, and they fall in love with it, and
then they want to do it um. And then I
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get folks who are in radio, some of the same
folks who made fun of me for going to Stitcher
when I left my morning show, who want to get
into podcasting, and a lot of them have good intentions,
but a lot of them, you know, it's it takes retraining.
It's not the same as being on the radio. It
is a different it's a different muscle. It is a
different muscle, it really is. You're right, But I love
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that your tea. If you remember that after I give
my podcast for six months, I actually got a live
show on THREFM. For like two years, I was doing
the Saray Show. So that was cool. So when I
first went to radio then too, I was like, oh
my god, love radio like I love them both. So
I get it though, but it's still that same intimate thing.
But I love that you are teaching this class. So
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I'm sending everyone to, you know, the questions like you
really yeah, not for free, though, I got it. Yeah,
I've consultant. I like it. So I wanted to ask
you about the n C Double A Tournament. Important things
here Michigan. How are you feeling about the Wolverine. I
(28:29):
don't know. I don't need attention anymore, but I hope
they win that I don't know. I figured I thought
everybody from Michigan was kind of die hard. Now, dude,
it's been a lot of time. I was die hard.
We went to three Rose Bowls when I was in college.
Super fun. I don't care anymore. Question, I hope they
do well. My heart was, you know, love to Michigan.
Well that that that brings us to really the most
(28:51):
important part of the show. This is the section I
call three Killer questions. Emily Morse, I have three killer
questions for you. Are you ready for these? I'm ready? Okay.
First question, if you could listen to a podcast hosted
by anybody living or dead, who would it be? Oh? Um,
(29:12):
that's a great question, dude. Um you want me to
give you some examples of some of the winners. I
was thinking Barack Obama. So um. Last week we had
the folks from NPRS The Cooler on and they said,
which was funny. They said they wanted to hear Macaulay
cull Can do a podcast and guess who announced the
podcast this week announced? It is so weird. Um. And
(29:34):
then the best one I think I've heard yet is
one of my students said they'd like to hear Whitney
and Bobby Brown do a podcast back when they were together.
Oh that's funny. That's a good one. Yeah. Um. Marri
Monroe was another good one. Yeah. Um. I also say
Barack Obama. I don't listen to a ton of podcasts,
I really don't, but I think he'd be good because
I love him and I want to hear him more
(29:55):
because especially what's going on in the world. I think
you'd be interesting, like what he learned talking about it.
I don't know him and Michelle. I think that would
be good if they can just do it. Yes, why not?
Maybe the we guess in my show talk about how
they keep their marriage so strong after you know, being
in the White House and all that podcast. Yes we can. Well,
it's funny because sex with Emily. For so long it
(30:16):
was like, oh, people won't come on your show, celebrities,
they don't talk about sex. But now it's like no,
people don't really people are ready to talk about anything,
which I love. Um, yeah, what's next question? Next question
is finish the sentence. The next big thing in sex
is um. I would say virtual reality really m so,
(30:37):
like how real is it going to get with virtual
pretty real? Like I went to Amsterdam and I went
there to check out like virtual realities. I like the
the the I things on what do they call it,
the whole head thing and watched porn and it felt
very real. And there's also all these toys. I think
sex tech is a really big thing right now, sex robots, um,
(30:59):
there's like I mean, the robots are coming, people are
going to want them, and um, I think it looks
pretty realistic. And now there's all you know, I talked
a lot about toys. There's now toys that are connected
with an app, that have an app, So you could
like have a vibe Rtar toy and you're better gonna
be in China and they could be you could be
controlling it through your phone. Yeah, and and I think like, yeah,
(31:21):
virtual reality porn, like people will never leave their house.
I'm not saying that's a good thing. Um, But the
next thing in sex, I don't know. Yeah, I would
say just the technology around sex, but hopefully people will
be having better sex, more consensual sex. And I think
this is a time for women really to step up.
And this is what I hope just kind of understand
that they have the power of sex. It's not for
(31:42):
the guy, it's for their own pleasure. But that's what
I've been talking about for a long time. Hey, last
last question you were talking about you don't listen to
a lot of podcasts, But what was the last one
that you binged? Um? Oh you know what I know,
I do. I actually I'm starting to listen to more.
I was just saying, who would I want to listen?
I listened to Um, I listened to the last one.
I listen to his dirty Job I've been Yeah, did
(32:03):
you listen to it? No? Oh, dirty John, I'm sorry.
I thought you said dirty jobs. I was like, oh, yeah,
I love my dirtie John. It's like when I did.
And I thought it was good, you know, For me,
I had a lot of I thought there were a
lot of problems with it as far as I didn't
really have any empathy for the main character, for the woman.
After a while, I was kind of like, yeah, yeah,
I really not that right, right, yeah, right, but recent yeah,
(32:27):
go ahead, No, but it was good, I mean it,
you know. And yeah, I'm a very hard judge on
on like those kinds of podcasts as far as like
the level I wanted to be at. So I thought
it was very very good. But I think for somebody
that like me, who listens to a lot of those
kind of podcasts, it was I was kind of I
was like, yeah, but I just don't feel the empathy
like I do for like the guy's s town, you know, right.
(32:48):
And I didn't listen to and I didn't listen to Seil,
so I know, but what happened was like three people
in a row. I was going to roach up. They
kept telling me listen to it, and I listened to it.
I was like, oh, maybe I kind of get into
these kind of podcasts like like Seriah, which I never
got into like the Yeah. So anyway, what else I
listened to? I don't know. Right now. J Moore is
going to be on my show tomorrow, so I'm listening
to his podcast, uh More Stories. Yeah, J's J's great.
(33:12):
Ja Yeah. J J used to come on the show
a lot when I was We came out Open Anthony
and a lot when I worked there, and then he
started coming on in San Francisco with us, and then
I forget there was some kind of, you know, one
of those dumb on air falling outs, and then I
haven't talked to you, So anyway, I haven't listening to that.
I listened to Tim Ferris sometimes, but now I you know,
I don't listen to a ton of them. But yeah,
(33:33):
I dabble inspiration. I think Dirty John is. I think
it's and again I kind of don't want to sund
like I'm trashing on it because it is great you know,
it's a lot better ones now that are the mystery. Like,
I just didn't think I was all going to be
all about that stuff, but I like it the story
getting me hooked, and I'm not like to have to
focus on I was like, yeah, I get it, I
get what people love it. What's that is? I'm going
to probably have the guy from Dirty John on in
(33:55):
a couple of weeks or something, and then I'll be like,
go back and erase that. I don't want anybody to
hear that exactly. Yeah, that's that's the only great thing
on podcast. And we can edit stuff like when I
took the stories, Like my friend told me a story
about an X and I told it on my show.
I was like, oh, she'll kill me. We gotta edit
that out. But it was a really good story. I
don't have that much. But when you suck up, but
you know people are gonna be mad at you, you
know you gotta do it sometimes you have to. But no,
(34:18):
I like to investigative journalism what I do. I'm into them.
But you're right Dirty John with my So now I
feel like I should listen to Cereal. Did you like Cereal? Oh? Yeah, Cereal?
I mean the first season. The second season, I wasn't
as hip on, but I mean everybody, everybody should listen
to the first season because it's groundbreaking and it changed
the face of podcast I know. See. And I didn't
have time because I was building a business. But now
I have more time. So I'm actually right now as
(34:38):
we're talking, I do remember that. I'm john living that one.
How I miss it? I don't know. You'd probably like,
I mean, there's so many good podcasts out there. I'll
send you a list. I'll send you a list, so
you yeah, because you're like the expert, tell me would
love besides mine, of course, but I would love that.
I would actually love that. Okay, Yeah, or just go
back and listen to all my old shows because they're
all over us. Yeah it's not last night access podcast. Yeah, Emily,
(35:04):
what's uh? What's the What's What's news? So you've got
a TV show? Yeah, I'm developing that books thing. I
mean the podcast we you know, we're doing two podcasts
a week. I'm doing more. I'm gonna be doing more
live podcasts. So I want to do more like improvs
and um do more lot because I love helping people.
Think is that. The other thing, I'm doing a podcast,
Like I'm in this room doing my podcast all the
(35:25):
time that I have listeners all over the world, definitely
all over the country. So I'm doing going to do
more like um appearances and meet my listeners and stuff
like that, which I love doing. When I'm out they're like,
oh my god, I love the show. I'm like, I
want to make this fople because I also love doing
a live podcast. But then helping people in the audience,
like doing some kind of like you know people you
you think people wouldn't ask questions in the second like
(35:45):
one person raised their hand, They're like, I've got this
problem with my penis. You're like, oh, he can talk
about that, and then it starts going and that there's
certain it's it's really I really enjoy doing those, So
I'll be doing that. Um yeah, what else. There's a
lot of things happening. I'm doing Wanderlust I don't know
if you wanted less, and do like ten festivals around
the world, and I'm going to be the sex and
Wellness sponsor and all their festivals like an experience. So no,
(36:07):
it's all on seximily dot com. Well, Emily, thanks for
coming on my little podcast. Yeah, it was so good
to talk to you. Thanks for reaching out. Best of
luck with all your new indeavors. You're awesome. Sounds great.
You're awesome too. Okay, good, I'll talk to by Maddie
(36:29):
so Ze. Can I tell you something for it. That's
the first time I've ever been on a podcast with
Emily where I didn't go into my sex life. Oh
my god, because because normally she comes, she's been on.
I had a relationship called your Straight Male Friend. I
had it for like eight years, and she'd come on
and we do it, and we invariably, you know, i'd
(36:49):
embarrassed my wife and talk about our sex life. And
then you know I had interviewed her for another show
as well. Um. So I was really proud that I
got through that whole thing without her diving in and
asking me anything. She tried to a couple of times.
She tried to beat you. She tried to beat me
a couple of times, but I didn't catch. I didn't catch.
My wife would be so proud. There we go. She
(37:12):
will not know she she knows Emily's on. There's no
way she's gonna But it's still a good episode. It's fun.
I like Emily a lot, and I think that she
really makes a point that you know, we we always
tell everybody consistency is everything. And Emily did her podcast
even when she wasn't making money off of it, even
when you know, it seemed like it wasn't getting traction,
(37:34):
she just kept doing it and now she's doing great
with it. So it pays off. It pays off. What
do you got for us this week? Alright? So we
are on the same trend of relationship advice podcast and
the first one is Savage Love Cast, but dance Savage.
This has been this has been around for god, I
think twelve years, yeah, around that time. Yeah, And I
(37:56):
really like it because his voice is so it feels
so familiar and friendly, and it's unfiltered. He's funny, and
it's just really all around good advice. Yeah, he's very likable.
Let's check it out. There is no the one. There
are lots of potential ones. But if anybody's out there
dating or swiping knows the search takes time and effort
(38:16):
and it can be agonizing, lee frustrating. That's a good one.
That and that's that's that's that's old school podcast right there? Yeah,
what else bringing it? So my next one is called
Nancy and it is by Cathy two and Tobin Low
and they're best friends and they do this podcast, so
their chemistry really comes through on the podcast. And it's
(38:37):
about the lgbt Q experience. And I like it because
I don't. I feel like there's not a lot of
podcasts out that is inclusive like that, and this is
just basically all about lgbt Q. So I like it.
And then they're que and it's a good podcast even
if you're not in the community, Okay, let's check it out.
And being in this store and looking up at the
(39:00):
story keeper Maura and thinking like, oh my gosh, um
and it's it's kind of like it was a very
charged moment and I was like instantly taken back there.
Sarah suddenly realizes that Maura was her ring of keys person,
the adult the showed her who she could be someday.
That sounds fun. We'll check that one out. I like that. So,
(39:21):
and my last one is Modern Love and this is
by w bu R in New York Times and they're
like tagline is Stories of Love, loss and Redemption, and
its readers submitted essays that are read by notable people
and famous people and sometimes even the essayists themselves. And
I like it because it switches it up, you know.
(39:42):
Sometimes you want the voice of the person that wrote it.
Sometimes you're like, oh, I know who that person is. Yeah,
these are really cool. This is this is one of
those great When they launched this podcast, I was like,
that is a good idea. It really was. Let's hear one.
Isn't buying an expensive couch a kind of lovely expression
of hopeful And after I'm gone, don't I still want
(40:03):
my guests in my home to feel comfortable and stylish.
None of this was supposed to happen at thirty eight.
I wasn't supposed to lie on my back in the
ear on a late December morning and be told by
a tiery radiation oncology resident that the pain I've been
having for two months that I've been assured was from
having a week core after months of chemo, was actually
(40:25):
from a tumor that had devoured my l two vertebra z.
Those are all good suggestions, very good job this week.
Of course, you can find all of those on the
I Heart radio apps, so go go check those out
and check us out. Thanks for listening to us. I
know mercury is in retrograde and it makes everything bad.
Just just breathe in, get through it. The months almost over.
(40:46):
You'll make it. Let's thank our producer Z. What's up?
Thank you. We're back to the beginning off my game today.
Casey Franco did our music, Dalton Runberg did the art.
Our engineers are David Walt. David almost said David Walton.
(41:08):
I mean there's been a there's been an office marathon
on Comedy Central for like two weeks. David, David Williams,
Horse Wong, and Red. Thank you guys so much. Thanks
for Katie Wilcox here at and Don Parker here at
San Francisco's iHeart, and Chris Peterson of course the Godfather
podcasting for I Heart. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm just awful.
(41:32):
Daniel Arcury, I'll be better next week. Tune in then,
see you bye.
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