November 30, 2025 • 53 mins
In this episode, we sit down with rising Mexican artist Julio Caesar, who’s fresh off the road after opening on tour for Ivan Cornejo. Julio shares what it’s like stepping on stage before one of the biggest names in Musica Mexicana, the pressure of winning over a new crowd every night, and the moments on tour that made him realize he’s really built for this. Julio also talks about learning from iconic singer-songwriter Armenta – the advice he’s gotten, what he’s picked up about storytelling and melody, and how having a mentor at that level is shaping his career and mindset.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did you get a chance to talk to Ivan maybe
about doing something maybe.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What collaborations, like do you dream about or like what
are some goals that you really want to hit if
we go.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Like crazy big, I really would love one with you interaction.
But I think when I really felt that, like I
can do this and I really got that confidence was
definitely opening on tour for you.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
How did that come about? Like how did the offer come?
Like you want to open up or like and what
would say is the biggest thing you learned from watching perform?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Mm hmm, I think it.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Was what's up?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Guys? Welcome back to another podcast. If you guys are
new to the channel, to make sure guys like come
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or wherever you listen to your podcast. But today, guys,
we have a special guest. Second time he comes to
the set, but first time we should have full on podcast.
Give it up for.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Thank you, Thank you guys for inviting me for I
remember the first.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Time you came. I think it was actually like the
first artists to come to this studio, right because you.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Shot that like it was like a mini.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Little segment was for for I don't know, but I
sang a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah. I remember, like I think these lights didn't even
work or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
It was like you were the very first artists coming here.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I think I think you guys told you you guys, yeah,
said you popped the chair or something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Now, but it's pretty cool now, it's all. It's all done.
I felt a few renovations, but you know, I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I love the little decoration you guys have. I was
just checking this out right here too. Oh yeah cool, Yeah,
that's nice.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
But thank you for taking the town of be here.
You know, hype been You know, we've been seeing your growth.
We saw you open up or one of the biggest
artists in which is amazing. You just dropped your album.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
To say that get to Get I'll tell you that
probably now. Yeah, it's been it's been a crazy ride.
I mean I've been at it for a little more
than a year. I dropped my first single it was
like May, like last year. So it's been a lot
in a year, and we've had to grow a lot
in the in that same year. It's been awesome and
grateful to to be able to do this and wake
up and say that this is what I do is
(02:27):
the best feeling in the world, damn.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And kind of to take it back a little bit,
how did you start in the music? Where did the
love for music come from? Because I feel like, you know,
you've come a long way, and I feel like I
think people are very interested on how someone could get
to the level that you are at right now.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So yeah, I mean it took a while. I mean
ever since a little kid in my house there was
always Mexican music. So my dad was always playing Mexican
music on the radio in the car everywhere, so always
heard it and it was more like banda Corridos type
of stuff. And my da wud always me down. I
was like eight years old and he was send me
out with the make me play according and uh yeah,
(03:13):
but I never liked it. I'll start crying. I was little,
so I'd be like, I don't want to defrustration. I'm
trying to play black Zombies, you know. And so yeah,
time passed. I met a homie, I met a friend
at school who was playing He was singing the settlemental song.
It was like it was one of those but it
was this elemental song that I knew and I was like,
(03:34):
I went to school where was majority like white kids,
and it wasn't really. There was no Mexican, there was
no Hispanic. There was nothing for me to relate to
somebody there except him. So yeah, he he came over
to my house one time because he was like, yo, all,
want to ask my girlfriend now to homecoming? And I
saw that you played the accordion because I would always
play my dad, and he saw a video that I
posted on my story. He's like, let's learn it and
(03:55):
let's play at school at this white school, like you
know what I'm saying. And we did. We played it.
He showed me a few songs. He showed me plat
remember said Adisonal He played that. I was like, what
what the well? And ever since then just started getting
into music, played with my with my family, my brother
and my dad and are here.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah. I also saw your profile too that before you
launched yourself as like a professional artist, you were in
a group of right yeah, and that was what their
dad and your brother You.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Said, yeah, yeah, it's a group. They're still going right now,
Arima Gaza. And so we would play just local parties,
local gigs. I played, I sing pretty Meda just like
right now. My dad was according to Segunda, and my
brother started and actually on tour, I took them both
and we still work together. Ye, so we do shows
like I still bring in with me, so we're still team.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
But you don't do like those weekly gigs anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
No, I think I stopped right after tour. I think
I stoped right after tour. They were like, hey, I
think I think this is going somewhere, like we started
feeling it and he's like, you should just focus full
time on this. You know, they believe in me. You
know we work together. It's all love. We're still there.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Did they find like a replacement or like they just
like stop?
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Actually my homie Michael that plays like you told me,
it's the same circle. It was the same circle he
plays with them now.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, how does it feel like having that chemistry with
your family? You know started off at the backyard gigs
and then you know, now you're going on tour and
then you know you can keep that same circle.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
You know, it feels pretty nice. It feel pretty cool
to to keep the same people and keep the same
ideas and you know the relationship is always there. I
always make the joke that you know, even if we
fire or we argue, we still got to breakfast together.
They're still going to sit down for dinner. So it's
always been cool to have to work with family because
they're not going anywhere, you know what I'm and I
don't know, it's been awesome. I think it was pretty
cool to, you know, lean on my dad at first
(05:43):
because I didn't know how to and he to like
that the type of stuff made me nervous, and so
he kind of did that for us and I learned
through him and then for it to kind of switch
and then me kind of be like, yo, Dad, you
got to do this, or my brother, you got to
do that. It's a cool switch. And I like that
we all feel comfortable make that switch when we have to.
You know, there's nothing like oh'm boss, or my dad's
(06:03):
the boss, or my brother's the boss. Like we're all
just there to to work and just keep going.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
That's actually pretty cool that you mentioned how like working
with family is a little bit different because, like you said,
like you guys are still going to eat breakfast together,
like no one's going anywhere, And it reminded me of
the time when we used to live together. Was like,
oh if if if I don't do it, then I'm
a quick and show you a picture.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
He tried to quit it like three times, but he
was like you know what, guys, no, yo.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
My laptop like.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Charge plugged it and I was like, no, let it
charge a little bit and we're gonna keep going because
we let you get.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
At the time.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So like, yeah, you know what happens. It happens, and
I think, uh, it's part of it. It's part of it.
Always somebody, somebody's always gonna get a little man. My
brother's the one that always gets mad. He's the he's
the grandpy pants one.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And then is your brother younger or older?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
He's younger by a year. He's my twin. If you
guys ever seen him.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
You guys, oh at the party right, yeah, you guys.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Might have seen him. Yeah, he met this guy and
he was like the my homie. He told him all
this is his brother. He's like, I guess people always
said we look like twins.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
And then where were you raised? Because I know you
were talking about high school.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Wanted to know like what, oh yeah, kind of right here,
kind of l A. We came out to l A a
lot because there's a story called Everybody Knows Music. So
I would always come out there. My dad would need
something for the accordion. I was always out here in
l A. But I mainly grew up in Ontario Ranchmung area,
so I basically I am more of an I person.
But I always always say LA is so much easier.
(07:45):
But from that it was like l A.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And I kind of want to talk about the first
approach that you had to I guess make it as
a as a musical. What was like the turning point
for you where it clicked in your head like, Okay,
I could do this fully with this A specific video,
specific interaction that you had. Was it a record deal
like talk.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
About that a little bit of breaking, Yeah, I mean I'll.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Break moment there you go.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I think I think it took me a while to
believe it back to the headman and I'd be like,
this is what I do. It took me a long
long time because I mean I had like a couple
of videos that did well, and then I had releases
that did well. But I think when I really felt
that like I can do this and I really got
that confidence was definitely opening on tour for you one
because it was it was such a bro was so
(08:33):
many people bro and it was like you could you
have to lock in and you have to be confident,
you have to take the stage. And I think being
forced to do something that big, which is so much
different from doing it through a video. So video you
get a bunch of views, you don't see those people,
but when they're in front of you, you see them.
You see everybody. Actually you hear it. You see the
lights when they go up, you see the lights when
they go down from the phones. So having to be
there in real life, I think that that kind of
(08:55):
flipped the switch to me where I'm like, all right,
this is serious. It's not a joke. This is our job.
Let's check business. Also have fun and enjoy and be grateful.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
And how did that come about? Like how did the
offer come? Like hey you want to open up?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Or like did you guys like pitch or how it
was so random. I woke up one day and my
dad was like he kind of manages like the like
the booking kind of he helps me out with that.
And he was like, hey, they call me if you
want to open very I'm like, you got prank called
bro like because we have the there's like a booking
number on the page. I'm like, somebody prank called. He's
like no, for real. They're like saying like, yo, like,
(09:26):
let's talk nah, And I had just woke up to
I'm like I'm dreaming or something. So yeah, we sit down.
We talked and it was like, Yo, we heard about
you and we would like you to join us. And
before they even said details, I was like, Yo, I'm down.
I'll do it for free. I'm down. I don't care
what it is. I don't care where we're going. Let's
just do it. I don't care how many dates. I
was just excited for that opportunity. That was super fun.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Then after when it started sinking in, were you like nervous, hyped?
What was going through your head? Because I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Think I think it hit me in a moment where
I felt ready. I think if it would have hit
me a little before, I wouldn't have felt ready. I think, uh.
I think being on stage was one of the hardest
ones for me. I always mentioned how that was like
never something I imagined it all, Like, I know some
people are like I want to be on stage. I
never imagined to be on stage. So I finally got
(10:14):
on stage. It took me a while to really get
into it, like you know, how to crowd work the crowd,
how to sing, how do you come out, how do
you like interact and everything. But I had had enough
like show like stage experience the point where when we
got to the tour, I was like, this is something
that came at the perfect moment, like I got this.
So it was full confidence I think from the team
as well, because it was we had also they had
(10:35):
also came out along on all the shows with me,
so the confidence was up high. I think we did
a good job. We were really happy to be there.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And what would he say, is the biggest thing you
learned from watching perform?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Mm hmm, I think it was. It was definitely like
the way the way you carry yourself. I think that's
something that I try to watch a lot. And how
there's different styles of it. For example, you have like
Bessel comes out and he's just screaming energies up high,
seme best do that, but he was kind of like
it's just straight. I don't know, he just kind of
walks around.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
He's just like he's like a mellow.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, he walks like a little so he has a
little I'm like, okay, So there's different styles. I realized that,
like you kind of choose your style on stage, you
kind of choose your style the same when you choose
your style music and you go with it. And the
number one thing is confidence because you could just see
the confidence in him, and I'm like you all these
other artists, I'm like, it's just about confidence at the
end of the day, for sure.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
And what city was your favorite from the tour?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You've always asked you that's too hard, that's too hard.
But there was one that was very memorable was I
always talked about It was Indianapolis for sure. Yeah, but
I loved all of them, but Indianapolis was very memorable
because my guys came out first. They would always come
out first, so they walk out and and I would
walk out once they started coind of playing. But when
the guys walked out, was like, and then like I
(11:48):
kind of peeked. I think someone saw my ears, so
I don't know they saw. I was like, whoa, Because
there's this scary part about opening that you're like you
always hear openers, like no one likes them. They're like,
get it over with, like I hope they finished, and
like hopefully they get cut a little bit so we
could get to the to the big guy, to the
right guy. So that was kind of scared when we
first got there, if anything, and the team talked about it,
(12:10):
were like, yo, just keep a chill, like you know,
we don't know how what the reaction is going to be.
But people reacted like amazing. It was awesome, Like people
were excited to see us as well. And you know,
Ewan's fan base just they're such they're so cool, they're
so accepting. There they were so welcoming, I mean so
welcoming of us, and it was a great experience and
every venue they were so welcoming.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
That's great to hear because I remember one time one
of us is gonna say one time we went to
like one of his tours. I remember it was like
it was the first I remember exactly, like the observatory,
the opener was like performing and like middle performance. They're
like I haven't Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Now, my brother went to it to a concert beforehand,
like a while back, and he told me he's like, yo,
who yo, it's our turn now he's like, I just
want to know. We went to a concert and they
were just like, oh, I even we got it.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, And I wanted to make a note of that
as well, because we did see, like you touched upon
how there was some dates that you went to, like
it wasn't the full tour, like it was like a
little like like a thing that said all, you know,
to see.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
What I need.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And then I saw some tiktoks and people are like, oh,
you know I'm going on this specific day and like
he's not going.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I'm so bummed out.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, I think that's that's that was pretty cool to
see that. I think that that kind of changed my
mind when I was going into it, because when when
we first got the call, I was like I was excited,
but I was like, all right, just chill because just
in case, you know, they're like, oh, like we don't
we want iven because that happens, you know. But I
started seeing those polls where it's like I can't wait
to see Julio in Las Vegas, and then the comings
like he's not there, and like, what do you mean
(13:38):
he's not there? And I was like, well, like people
people want to see me as well, I think I
thought that was super cool. I saw some tiktoks where
they were like, uh, just like oh, when I found
out that Juli was going to be open, it.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Was like, you don't see that for an opener, you
know that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I feel like, yeah, I was pretty grateful. I was
pretty grateful to see that type of reaction for everybody.
Super happy.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah's we want to congratulate you on going on this tour.
And something that I'm super curious to know is what
was the interaction or what was the relationship with Ivan,
you know, get you know what, what do you think
about him as a person and as an artist?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Pretty sure? I think I think the same we were
talking about him on stage. He's just kind of like confidence, swag.
Is he smooth? I think he's like that as a person.
We met him on the first show, it was like
in Missouri, kind of just bumped into him like it
was boom, he went his way, went my way, just
kind of mat and then over time we just kind
of bump into each other and just catch up. Just
pretty sure stuff. I would just tell you. I remember
asking him one time, I'm like, do you still get nervous?
(14:34):
He's just kind of fizz and like you're used to it.
He's like, yeah, like you got it, you know once
he's been at it for a while. But I think
it was super cool. I think it was super cool.
I think we didn't bump into each as much as
I would have liked to, and I think it was
We actually had a joke. I don't know if you
guys know, no Auzzie's photographer, Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And
he's like, you don't even like it. So I'm like,
(14:54):
what do you mean, bro, I'm like, I message you guys.
He's like, no, you don't hang out with us. But
it was like, because I had this whole like team
that we were driving, you know, we were kind of
like boom boom boom in the hotel, booking there, beingb's
and doing kind of everything with my dad. I had
to be there with my dad like no, I don't
book this one, I don't like that one. Let's do
this one. Or a guy on like yoga, did you
(15:15):
bring the mics? Like boom boo boo boom. So at
the same time, it was like, because we're kind of
running with a smaller team where everybody has like their
second jobs, I kind of like I kind of have
to help everyone out, and my brother has to We
all have to help all everybody each other out. So
it was kind of hard to find the time to
just chill because we got to get here to this
hotel to be halfway tomorrow, to make it to this
date the next day.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
And it's like, yeah, so you guys were in charge
of all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, I mean not full. We obviously have like a
lot of people. I have to have my managers and stuff.
But there was points where like, you know, for hotels
and stuff, and like driving what time are we leaving?
With time are we going? So it sounds fun. You're
you're at the city, you're in the city, you're in
New York, and we get to be there in New York,
but you got two hours to hang out and you've
got to go.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Sometimes you don't even sleep bet you know, you're just
like worrying about going to the next city.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
That stuff happened. We had the very last show where
we decided we have to hang out. We're like, we
have to hang out, man, Anybody and his team were
us like, yo, we have to hang out. We haven't
like hung out and just like chilled outside of like
meeting each other between like work and yeah, we hung
out with some kind of sah we changed gifts and everything.
Super nice people I met. I met his team and
(16:23):
we we kind of shared a little moment. It was
super awesome. And yeah, we left. I think we were
in McCallen, I think, and we had to drive up
all the way to San Antonio and I think we
made it at like four am. We had a wake
up at like nine am, and it was just like
it's just you don't sleep red bull yam when I
was going.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
And aside for that, what were some other like obstacles
you faced during the tour, like maybe like there was
a point where maybe like sick or like or something
like that, Like did you go.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Through that was my biggest three actually was getting sick.
I was like I cannot get sick, and I had
bad like this bag would just beat theminess.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You're like, I'm like, I'm for redibules in a row and.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
No, I can't can. I would drink electrolytes and everything.
But I think one of the biggest challenges was keeping
everyone on the same page. Like we get there and
everyone's happier and one's hype. Everyone's everyone's on a high
bro Like we're on tour. It's like one of the
dreams of every musician is to go on tour with
just anybody, like just going.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Tour in general potentials.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So we would be like in like Chicago's like maybe
the third day, second day of tour, and everybody's like yeah,
oh yeah, like and I would like turn them down.
I would tell them like, yo, keep it chill. I
know we're all like super hype. I know we're all
super happy, but problems are going to come. Like this
natural is just part of life. Like problems will come.
(17:45):
You guys need to just remember like, yeah, we're all
happy and stuff, but keep it chill and when the
problems come, keep it chill, stay relaxed, Like keep this
vibe up that you guys have up right now as
much as you can, and just keep it relaxed because
those problems did come. You know, sometimes someone up they
didn't really sleep well, you know, they're having not having
the best day. They might say something that's that's a
little crazy. Luckily we didn't, we didn't fight at all,
(18:07):
but there was just those days with me someone was yeah,
someone was just not in a good mood, someone's just
a little tired than the other day, and we just
have to give each other space and also manage that
that emotional side, like because you're together with someone for
so long that you start to get to know them
real well and you like their habits and yeah, and
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Sometimes you just see him you're like, oh, I don't know.
That's why I like, stay right here.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I don't have to look at that. Uh. In Vegas
was mad because they didn't get a sandwich hunch.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
We can I again once again, he got mad, like
tell you this, tell you this. We had worked since
seven in the morning because I don't know why radio
stations decided that they started at crack of dawn, right anyway,
you know, from there we were going to activations. We
had our own activation, like it was literally non stuff.
We didn't have minutes to sit down. Yea, yeah, yeah,
(19:01):
you know. We were done with one interview. The other
person was like, there was.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
A line I feel and then the last yeah, I
see he's laughing because he did.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And then and then the last one was but that
one he he didn't come like we had to go
to him, you know, but it was it was easy.
It was just a few cameras, tripods, we know, weach
carried one and over there.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
They were like, oh I saw there was some food.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And then right, yeah yeah, very kindly goes like, oh
have you guys ate we're like today, not at all.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's like it's five thirty, like I've been praying for
this moment.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Yeah for real.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
But then and then they were like, oh, well we
already we were read leaving, but let's put some start.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
She started putting sandwiches in the bag and then you know,
like take.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It on with you, right, And I was like that
was like hell yeah, you know, shout out to her
like that's such kind person's kind soul.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
But I was helping him pack the stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Right, we get back and I was all hell yeah,
like we're about to eat and I was forced to
drink two beers.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It was horrible. It was horrible.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It was buzzed too.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Get back.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
They start taking the sandwich shot take didn't get one.
That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Yeah, look for real.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Het anyway, but then I was like like here, get
half of mind and like a hole right away he
went up.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
But who was in charge of putting this almost.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
And then he leaves to like the casino for two hours.
We call him no answer.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
If you don't have nothing nice to say.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Sometimes it's at the casino, y'all.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Let me know about the comments.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Damn well, I think it's really bad as that you
know you learn from this experience is the way they're
expressing yourself. I could tell you, you know you're in
the right mind, You're locked in. You were locked in,
you know, like being here. You know you're the artist,
but also you know you have some sense of responsibility
for your team, and I think that's going to prepare
you so when you have your own tour and vitas,
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when you do have.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Your own cars, guys helpfull.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You know, we're manifesting that for you. And there's no dieting,
there's no doubt in our minds that you're gonna have
your own tour soon.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Thank you bro working on that. That'd be awesome. I
think that's one of my next goals, the next to
my biggest goals for sure.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Having that be awesome. And I also wanted to ask
you to are you like happy the way things turned
out because you started with backyard gigs? You know, and
then I feel like that kind of like prepared to like,
you know, going on tour and stuff. And I feel
like there's a lot of artists who just never had
that experience, you know, and they just like hit and
they just get put in front of like I don't know,
cameras and stages and everything, and they're just like, fuck,
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what do I do?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
No? Yeah, I think that was a big thing that
we were talking about at first, was like, oh, you've
already played live, like you've already done this before. But
and it makes sense, but personally, like me, I don't
think I don't think it helped me. Bro I don't
think it really changed much for me too, because for example,
when I did play with my backyard gigs, I want
to say a word into the mic, I wouldn't say
a word. I just seeing back up now any mad
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like ante, Like I wasn't really outgoing and all that
type of stuff, you know, and it was just like
pretty chill stuff like sign and now being on the
stage or like people asking you questions, like it was
very for me. I feel like personally it makes sense,
but I don't feel like it helped me much, just
because it's so such a big difference of a step,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And so you seel like this is like a whole
another pillow, like it's.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
A whole different world. I think it's a whole different world.
I think it definitely does help musically though, like for
example being on stage and playing for sure, because you
already kind of have the experience. But for example, things
like using the inner monitors the little headphones. I'd never
done that before and that's like that weirded me out
the first time we used it. It just makes it
all weird how you plague and the communication on stage
(22:38):
is so much harder, Like there's these things that you
never think about that come with playing on a stage
and on a different level than playing in the backyard
is like super different. Yeah, but it does help though
for sure to a certain level.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, I feel like that whole thing with like the
monitors and the inn yours like it's another shit because
there's delay, right, So.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
When you play in a big area, ask mon echo,
so you if you go yep, yep, yep, yep, yep,
and it's just balancing around and you're not getting to
know like how to play. You know what I'm saying,
So that happens. Sometimes it cuts out. So sometimes you
see a video of like so and so artists like
super offbeat, and people are like, I know, is like bro.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Just because he didn't know.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, it's complicated.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
We were talking about that not that long ago, about
how like the engineer job too, you.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Know, like it was yesterday.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
No you got in a respectful way, you know, but
we're just like, damn, I wonder what goes on because,
like you said, like an artist is singing, they think
they're on beat and everything, but like what the people
hear is like some other ship.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah yeah yeah, or like sometimes the crowd is something funny.
I noticed this happened for the first time. I was
that we were singing and the crowd was singing and
I was hearing there was so loud that I was
hearing them after what I was saying. So it's like, oh,
it's just like this whole rever thing and you really
have to focus on and and like again I actually
be like backed up a little bit because they were
(23:57):
just I can't hear. I start getting confused, you know what,
I then start getting confused.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
That means there any like memorable like interaction that you
had with the fan that kind of like blew you away.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I think, I think, I think just then coming up
in general, it was like.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
WHOA, like want want in your autograph picture?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I think what we had merch that we were selling
and and people were like buying it. I was like,
you guys are buying this? Like for me, it's because,
like I said, it took me so long to like
believe that this whole thing is real, like I always
you always dream it, but for it to like actually
start kind of happening, and actually you gotta pinch yourself
a little bit. So I would like walk out and
see people with like my love my album logo on
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their back? Whoa you guys? You guys want to wear
this from? I don't know? It's it may be so happy.
It's a pretty crazy feeling to to see someone wearing
your logo. It's awesome.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Are we gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
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The special is going to be happening December twenty second.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
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I wish those very own will be having a performance.
You don't want to miss out.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah, he's gonna be dropping an album. Sorry now, Christmas
Special December Fourthcember four, this Thursday or Friday. Know some
of my favorite holiday traditions, of course, and I blame
my parents. I'll tell you guys why in a bit.
It's plain pity no, like you guys know and everything.
My mom is bumped them, but my favorite dessert dude,
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and actually have some at the Latin billboards them and
you guys got like them. You guys got something with chicken.
I was like, bro, like try this.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
When you like it is?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah, like one of the things I really enjoyed doing
it as we get older. You said back, like, now
we're the unks on the roof. But I think now
karaoke to five am. And I know you guys do
it too better because I know I'll text you, dude,
I'll literally tell you guys like a foreign money every
single holiday. Hey, you guys up, everybody's up?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, all right, right and carry I.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Guess it already. Yeah, classics for this holiday special. You know.
On the twenty second, I did want to tell you
guys about my recipe for ponche that I am going
to be bringing. It's going to be something special, unique,
and that you guys can do it as well. You
guys can because you guys like to copy everything, come
up with your own. But of course the punch and
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everything else Fiscalo is going to be inspired by of
course this drink right here. I mean this drink already
alone is like amazing. Let me tell you guys about it, yep.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And I do want to mention that it's called Winter
Spiced Cranberry and it's.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Only limited edition.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
It only comes around during the holidays, and it is
a little tough to find sometimes. So if you guys
do want to look for it, or you know, if
you guys go to the store and you can't find it,
keep looking because it's only once a year and if
you don't get to it, you're.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Gonna have to wait all the way till next year.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah, so let me tell you guys about my ingredients. So,
of course, one of my favorite drinks Hamaika biscus biscus.
Back then, I was a chat hamica, but like lately
it's been switching. I don't know why. I feel like
I just kind of taste like a desert thing, like
because chata is like it's.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Always if it's too sweet sometimes.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
No, like it's always if you like, if you go
jewel it was, so I feel like I've been teamed
like Hamiah ever since. But hamiica nectar apple juice, splash
of lime and of course topped with sprite winter spice Cranberry, which,
like I said, you know, this is good alone on
its own, but it keeps up essence of but it
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makes it cool and refreshing.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
That's a very intricate ingredy. I'm gonna have to copy it.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Yeah, but no secular. It seems a little intricate.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But also make sure to get your Sprite Winter Spiced Cranberry.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Say, something's a little hard to say. What's it's. It's
it's winter theme.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
It's for the holidays them and I think it just
kind of like sets sets the vibe, you know, So
it's not just so you can tell a special.
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Speaker 6 (29:08):
Gonna be nice. They're they're coming in, they're setting everything up.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It's gonna look beautiful and the special performance by those very.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Own Stay tuned for it. December twenty second and back
to you, Julio Cesser.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Bro was no.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Man, everybody back there. You know, noe by By, your
music is really good. I'm really sorry, you know, you.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Know, okaying.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Back to your jo as we were saying, you know,
the album the ep.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
EPs called this Gonna Thos like a sadd e p
It's like basically a little ideas like it surrounds around
a cake bag hanging out with the homies, but your
mind is somewhere else. That's just connect the moment you
thinking about a girl. I've kind of done more of
like this, some older music, more saturay music. I kind
of stuck to that, and basically the whole idea for
the CP was kind of to switch it up a
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little bit. So we started from covers and it kind
of limits you at the moment when you want to
really express yourself musically or lyrically, you get limited because
it's some cover. Puss and Soon says this one, I
really try to just dive deep into into my lyrics,
I feel like, into the melodies and just musically and
just really try to create a sound that can be
(30:34):
more more recognizable as my sound. You. We went to
recorded here in l A and Yellow Room, and we
got like a whole week and I was just mentioning
David say woa. He helped me out on that. Uh yeah,
we just sat down, we went crazy. We tried some
new stuff, we tried some some sense. I really started
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like I feel like I feel like for a while
in it and then it's like it's coming back up heavy.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Yeah, I feel like I had the same thing to
like while I was like, now I like the total.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
More than yeah is kind of I think I think heavy,
you know.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, I was gonna mention that because I feel like
the Bao was really like that back watches sound. But
then I feel like now they're starting to put it
into like the newer songs, and I think it's not
really that watch it, but like it just gives that punch.
I mean that's what I personally.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
There's a song, a pestl song has then it just
goes crazy, and that's why I wanted to add this.
We had a Tollo Yeah, we got some Sikes Collapse,
we got we always got the Tea on there. We
got Amantha, which I was super excited about, and we
got Ma Hoomie So which I think you guys had
them here before too, right yeah earlier. Yeah, cool guy
you have three collapse. It was original stuff, just trying
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to build a new song basically.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
And did the album come out exactly how you wanted
it to or did it like EAP evolved during oh yeah,
the EP, or did it evolve like during the process
it changed.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
So, for example, there's a song called THEA on there
and I wrote that February. You know, it's almost a
year ago now, and I had my kid die in there.
I'll play it all the time. Everybody liked it, and
I showed it to saw Wood one time in the studio.
He was like, yeah, it's cool. Record it like this
like the My kids like the demo and I'm like,
hmm yeah. Time passes by and we take I took
(32:19):
it to the studio and David's like, yeah, we're gonna
do this and we're gonna do that. And then Midicael,
my homie Maer, was like, let me add this, and
it just it just changed the whole song. I showed
it to Sawda and He's like, this is even better.
But it sounded way, way, way, way way different. It
was just so much more produced. We had just so
much more ideas. I never really I mean, David had
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me in the studio doing something. We're like, we like
doing all these weird stuff that I never do, you
know what I'm saying. I feel like I've always kind
of just sang very just like people tell me I
have like old man voice. I got, you know what
I'm saying, just yelling, and so switched it up. I
think we definitely evolved, and I think we're going to
try to stay on that path and try to find
the sound. I'm really but with how it came out,
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I feel like this this we're on the right track now,
you know what I'm saying. I feel like I feel
like we found what the sound that we wanted to
find for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, I feel like that's the hardest thing as an
artist to come up with the style, and I mean,
you're doing it. And another another question that I had
for you is, you know, working with Adimanta. You know,
he's one of the most important writers in music right now.
How was it like working with him? Like, what is
his structure like compared to yours? You know, I'm pretty
sure everybody works different when building a song.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
No, it was pretty cool. I mean I think it
was like my second time medi huim so really didn't
know him now well yet. So he comes to the
studio and he speaks like a more just Mexican. Bro.
I feel I feel like us here, you know, we
speak a little differently. I feel like I speak more
like my parents than like the younger people from Mexico.
So he comes up with this with this like different
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type of Spanish that I don't even know. Sometimes like
what does that mean? He's just called and I'm like, what,
like what? I started getting up and then I started
catching up to what he was saying. Then we get
to writing. That's where I couldn't catch up. Bro, He's
just and I'm like, are we gonna do what?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Vowur?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Are we gonna do next? He's like, hold on, done,
damn bro, all right, cool, let's do it. So that
guy's a beast with the pan. He just just did it. Bro,
just did those?
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Is there something like kind of like surprising or can
you go into more detail with that? Because I think
that's there's probably a million people like, you know, dying
to get to write a song with him or you know,
be in you know that created space with him.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, for sure. I think I think at that point,
once I saw like she's going crazy. I think I
started taking more as like learning experience. I was like, okay,
like how where are these ideas coming from? Like why
did he choose this? And I kind of like started
soaking it in. I kind of I kind of took
like a student position at that point. I was just
like I started kind of listening around. But it was
super awesome, super cool guy, super fun to work with.
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He kind of was just like, you know what, here's
a song, you work on it and produce it. We
went in the studio, we worked on it first version
and it was cool. But I was like, bro, this
is with that manthamb Like, let's let's bump it up
a bit, scratch the whole thing during the trash, Let's
do it again. I did my vocals all over again.
We did the King Tho all over again.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
We added.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
All these effects, brought in David, and I feel like
it felt like find a product. It felt like like
a song that that was like me and Adamanta and
I'm super happy. I think I think that was performing
the best out of the Holy p It's one of
my first songs. Fire.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Yeah, it's a really good song.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
And then when it comes to writing, do you how
would you say you are with the writing process, Like
do you struggle with it? Like does it come natural
to you?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I think it's it's very scrambled. And I think because
I didn't start writing until recently. So I didn't start
writing until I released my first song. I released my
first couple of few covers, and then I realized, yeah,
I need to start writing, so I would. I'm a
very beginner writer. And sometimes I have songs that just
come out. For example, there's a song called uh that
I like to talk about a lot because it was
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it was on tour as well. We had this first
it was the first ride out to Missouri, and I'm like,
I have so much time, I need to do something.
Just wrote it. That one came out so natural, kind
of like I was talking about it method just it's
just sometimes it just come out. But then sometimes I
have songs that take me four or five days. It
just takes me a while. The first day is like
I get a melody and I get like a phrase
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and it just sits there. Come back to the next day.
It's just sits there, and it just sits there until
one day is just everything just comes out. I don't
know why that happens, and I think sometimes it's also
because I don't like to give up on songs, Like
once I really like something or a certain sound, I
hate to be like, nah, it didn't work out. I
hate that feeling of like I didn't work out. I
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hate that the feeling of giving up is so much
like worse than just making a song, finishing it and
you didn't think it was that good. Like just giving
up on it feels so much worse and just making
a not good song, you know what I'm saying. So
sometimes it takes me a minute, I think just because
on the fact that if it's not going out, I
just don't give up on it.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, what he says. What was the most challenging song
from the EP to write or just to general, Oh,
it's this.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
There's this one called inside and and I wrote it
and I liked it, but I felt like it was
so hard to structure it and like produce it. I
don't know why, Like it just felt like what do
you even put in this? Do you put piano? Do
you put quinto do we make it like fast? We
make it? So I don't know what to do with it.
I took it. I took it to the studio. We
work on it for a day and nothing happened. We
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just nothing. We tried electric guitar, we tried to quinto,
we tried, we tried all this different stuff. I don't
know if I said the name is called inside and
nothing worked. We come back the next day. David sent
a text to some homie from Chicago. His name is Aaron.
I think this electric guitar. We call another homie, George.
He does, and David's like, we're gonna put electric guitar
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by hold, Like what bro for all? He's like, oh,
trust me? Like all right. I was like, go ahead,
let's do it. Let's try it. We get it. It
sounds awesome. It's like my it's my favorite, like instrumental
wise on the Holype. That was just so cool because
the way it's written. I was thinking about it in
the way of a pop song. I don't know if
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you guys heard you know, sa Hello Bad Bunny heard
that song. So I kind of try to make that
type of structure, like a pop structure. I was like,
how do I make this Mexican? It worked out. I
don't know how it worked out, but it was hard
and it worked out.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
And kind of like, going based off what you said,
do you find yourself getting influenced from other other genres?
That's not Mukinda because we actually did an interview with
Neton and he was saying like, oh, I don't like
to listen to other people's music because I feel like
I'm going to gravitate. And I don't know if that
has ever happened to you, where like you make a
song and then it ends up sounding like something else
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just because like you're sconsciously doing it, you know, Yeah,
sometimes you're writing something that's like, oh, sounds like this, yeah,
and you're like scratch.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
I feel like maybe that happened to him, and then
that's why when I asked him like, oh, do you
listen to music.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
And he's like no, oh yeah. I was like that
all right, next question.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I mean, I think I'm kind of the whole opposite.
I try to listen to so many genres that it
makes it so much that it's like you can't point
it to the one. I feel like that's what I
try to do. I like, I like like a lot
of rock. I do like some rap, but I like
a lot of like actually, surprisingly, I like the trios
those ants like Little Spanhos and stuff like the groups
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not but like but like Moss classical like like what
I mean with the where they play with their fingers
like okay, classic guitar stuff kind of like kind of
like that.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I think that's called that. Damn, I might be wrong
on my sound stupid, but.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, yeah, they play bolettos. I think they're called like thrios.
There's always like a little Span shows or like little Dandies.
I might be wrong, but stuff like that just grab gravitate,
so we'ds grabbing stuff from older music too, like listen
to my house, but also grabbing stuff from like this
all internative and like rock and stuff. I like this
artist called Dominic Flag, some a fair artists in the
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world just mixing all that and just putting it to
one and trying to make this like unique sound. I
think that's that's always been to go.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, I think it's super interesting because I feel like
MSANA is a point, is getting to a point where
there's no more rules anymore versus back then, like if
you were doing you have to have a web bix.
So like it's pretty interesting and I'm curious to know
like what's next, you know, like what what's going to
be mixed with what? And I feel like there's no
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rules right now.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's you could just do whatever you want.
And I think that's what I like.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
I think.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
I think that's what I liked about being in the
studio and being able to try these new things and
it didn't feel weird, you know what I'm saying. So
we were in there playing the sands and stuff and
it didn't feel wrong to do that in Mexican music,
and I think that's how something. I think that's why
it's goneen so global recently for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
And then switching up the topic a little bit to like,
you know, some juicy questions. I want to ask you.
Have you felt any like jealousy or weird energy from
other artists since you dropped your album or like since
you started your career?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Hm hmm ep So I keep seeing album specifically from
from artists. Yeah, I wouldn't say something like.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Me and it's just like damn, like that's kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Or I feel like actually I haven't came across a
bad experience with with anyone. I think everyone's just been like, yo,
are you doing small tuck? Are you doing super nice?
If anything, I became I became Holmes like so were
good friends stuff like that. I think what does happen
is is family with family family. I think when I
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first started releasing music, I had this deal and I'm like,
oh I just signed, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like this is for real? Uh look at my song,
like it has this many streams. He's like, we're you
still going to score?
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Right? No, It's like.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Get out of squad and I'm like, I mean, but
I'm working, bro, go to school. It's like that was
it was like wow, bro, like not even like your congratulations,
but you should study. It's like no, but it's just
different believes and people grow up differently, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, I guess they don't really see it
as as a profession if it's not. Some people grow
(42:15):
up just differently, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
And then ever since, like being of Fishery, like in
the music industry, what's something that like shocked you or
that you're like, oh shit, I didn't know things were
like this.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
There's there's just a lot of background stuff bro a
lot of background stuff, like like when I when I
want to release a song, there's so much background stuff,
like you have to turn this in by this time
with this information and put it into the b M
I and then it's a lot of stuff, make sure
it's on YouTube, make sure the lyrics are right when
you drop the It's a lot of background stuff that
I don't know why I never think about. I've always
(42:48):
just been a music fan that's like, oh, that looks
good and this sounds good, but never like WHOA how
much work really goes into it? Yeah, And I feel
like most people, including myself, we don't really we don't
really look at that. We just look at the final part.
You know, at the end of the day, you just
gotta work and this just it's just what you gotta
do and it's just how it goes, and it's just life,
so damn and.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
If you wouldn't have been doing music, like where were you?
What are you be doing right now? I was.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
I was actually cutting hair as a side gig while
doing while doing TikTok starting it up because so when
I started posting on TikTok, I saw it as like
kind of like a hobby, but I was like, hopefully
I could get like maybe like five hundred. I want
like five hundred to a thousand followers. Was my goal
to release a song a gorilla that had written that
(43:35):
I just had like recorded on the side, because I
really I've always liked messing around with like logic, and
I always had my interface. I would always record in
my house. So the goal was like getting like a
thousand followers and then release it and then like get
some streams like some people, some somebody will like it
was go, you know, And I was like, well, if
this is not gonna work out, I needed I'm gonna
cut hair. And I was a barber for a while
(43:56):
and never never professionally though. The other think I was
like in the shop was in my legal bar yeah
no license, nos.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
I was in the garage. And I live in front
of a I live very close to school. And one
day these little kids come by and they're like, yo,
you cut her? Yeah, bro for free. They're like, all right, bat,
we'll be back. They bring like six little boys, bro,
like six sixs Like I want to cut. I want
to cut. I'm not a good barber yet. Right at
that point, I start cutting everyone. Use just messing everyone.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
Bro, I didn't you didn't show them the haircut?
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
But actually, like I'm just playing, it wasn't that bad,
but it wasn't good. It wasn't good either though.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
So you never actually had like a I don't want
it's like a real job, but like like a nine
to five. No, no, just like shut after high school,
you just like started.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
It's because while I was in high school, I was
already work with my dad and my brother. Oh yeah,
so I just wanted something to decide because like going
back to the family thing, there was always somebody that
would be like, oh, but what else do you do? Damn?
And then like I was fine with what I was doing,
and the plan obviously, like at some point was to
keep going and expand it, maybe turning to one or
(45:04):
thank you or just expanded at some point. But it
was always that thing of like what else do you do?
Speaker 6 (45:10):
Though?
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Or like I would tell people like, oh, I'm a musician,
but what's your real job? And I guess it started
getting to me and I started looking for other outputs,
and I guess it's maybe at the end of the day,
I'd never stopped believing in it. Because that's why I started,
you know, posting and working on music on my own.
But it then gets me a little bit and I
feel like that's why I try to jump into barbering.
But you know, I worked out, we're here. I'm happy.
I'm happy it went right.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Damn it. And the question that I always ask artists
is what does like the typical day look like for you?
Because I mean, you're doing this full time. How do
you what's your routine? You know? I mean if you
don't have a routine that that's fine either because I
feel like scram artist artists like you could be like
doing an interview, but then you could also be flying
across that you never know where, or something you know,
like Planet is like the label calls you, yo, we're
(45:53):
doing this fucking almonals, you know, Like what's the vibe
with you?
Speaker 3 (45:58):
I think I try to be organized, but like you said,
sometimes you just can't write. So I mean I sleep late,
wake up late. Usually. I try to try to write
every night as much as I can. I feel like
that's like the nighttime routine, you know what I'm saying,
Try to write, wake up late, depending on how that
song went, maybe wake up and try to finish it.
If I'm not if I'm not feeling it, we just
(46:20):
go kick it with my homies with my brother and
I have this homie that works with me for all
my videos, my gout axel. We this is like every day.
This is like it was funny I'm thinking about right
now as like part of the routine. We just get
together watch music videos and be like, I like that,
I don't like that, this is nasty, this is fire,
this is cool. Next time, let's do this and boom
boom boo boom. We just plan all that type of stuff.
(46:41):
For example, recently we planned out we did like a
little we're just talking about.
Speaker 6 (46:45):
It right now.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
We added metronomes into our end years and we try
to play with like live effects. And I'm sure you
guys seen like fighters I do it now because they
have the samples. We tried that out. I set that
up with my homi axle and just boom boom boom boom.
So I guess there's always something that's part of my
day that has to do with music, But it's never
the same thing, you know what I'm saying. It's never
one thing.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
That's pretty interesting. Yeah, And I only bring that up
because we did an interview with Denny Lux and he
was expressing how sometimes he feels like he has a
lot of time on his hands, and sometimes like that
kind of like eats them up, you know, like overthinking
or he feels like he doesn't have a hobby, which
I think we know, we're all humans, and I feel
like sometimes thoughts could eat us up too, you know.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Yeah, so I thought it was interesting in that, No,
for sure. I actually yeah, I agree with that too.
Sometimes you you're kind of just chilling there. I feel
like that always happens when we finished something. So if
there's a big release and we're done, everything's out, everything
came out, music videos out, everything's out, you reach like
this little like what's the next?
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, maybe like a gap of like just waiting.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, what's that thing called purgatory? When you're between heaven
and hell? Or he's just waiting, it's just you just limbo, limbo,
I'm thinking of limbo. You just just there, bro, and
then you're like, damn, what's next? He just I guess
it's like, oh, look at the results. Okay, he's doing good,
but what else? And you kind of just get to
that point where you need to figure it out on
your own. I think that's the hard part is figuring
(48:11):
out what you're gonna do next on your own. You
know what I'm saying. You have to create that. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
Yeah, that's like the heart is not yeah, because anyone
could drop music. But then after that's like what do
you do?
Speaker 3 (48:22):
You just got to pull that at of thin air,
you know what I'm saying, Like the next idea of
the next color, the next vibe, you know what I'm saying,
the next what's these lyrics going to be a by?
You just got to That's what. It's kind of cool
when it comes out naturally because it's kind of like
it was given to you by some sort of like
music god. Bro, you know what I'm saying. It's like
where's this melody? Oh yeah, yeah, kind of like that.
(48:44):
Sometimes it just comes to you. And I guess that's
why people call it talent, they call it gift because
to some people just comes to them differently than other people.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah, And do you feel like you're under a lot
of pressure? Like how you were saying that, you know
what's next?
Speaker 6 (48:57):
What's next? Do you think sometimes a little overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
I think one hundred percent. I think it always has been,
and I think it always will because you're always you're
always under the pressure of your of your last like success,
I don't know that's a way to say it. So
if you did really you did have something that did
really well, your next one needs to be better, and
so to do something that didn't do better than that
last one. Sometimes you can feel like, oh, I'm going downhill,
(49:22):
you know what I'm saying. But it's just like natural
music goes up and down. It has the highest highs
and it has the lowest low It's like, WHOA, nothing's
going on. And then all of a sudden, you're on
this super big stage and you just met so and
so artists and you just did a collab with so
so person. It's pretty hard. It's a lot of it's
a lot of emotions, a lot of feelings. But I
think the one thing that keeps me grounded is the
fact that like I'm I'm I get to feel this,
(49:46):
you know what I'm saying. I get to feel the
pressure of having to write an album. I get to
feel the pressure of five minutes so I get on stage.
So that's a blessing, even the bad parts are a
blessing for sure.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Damn, that's pretty interesting. A good way to look like
sometimes you just want to feel some sort of emotion,
some sort of pressure, and you're going to My next
question is what collaborations, like do you dream about or like,
what are some goals that you really want to hit?
Speaker 3 (50:13):
I think I think if we go like really big,
if we go like crazy big, I really would love
one with Junior Action. That'd be fine, just because I
feel like I based I feel like I based my
sound a lot on how like the lyrics are real sad,
but then the instrumentals just just like some yeah, yeah,
it goes crazy. So I think I tried to base
it off around him Junior Action. Mm hmm. I think
(50:38):
other genres. I think I would love to try some
other genres maybe in the future future. For staying in
that in that topic, Hobby would be sick to even
though he seems kind of high, we didn't bro We
did it for that same thing I was talking about
where it was like hectic, Yeah, like we would see
(51:00):
him and be like let's hang out, and we were like, oh,
actually we're already leaving. And I wanted to stay so bad.
I remember one time we were like he told me like, yo, stay.
I think we were like in Atlanta and he's like,
y'all stay, and I was like yo. I was trying
to plan it out, like what if you guys leave
and then I'll stay at a hotel here and then
I'll take rent a car and then he's like, broch
(51:20):
just set up. Bro, Like that's not gonna work. Like
let's just go. Like it's cool. We're like yeah, because
I was like I got to hang out with the guys, bro,
Like I gotta, I gotta just they had told me
to like ye, let's hang out, let's sing yells count.
It was tough. Yeah, there's just a lot of moving around. Yeah,
but hopefully one day though, we'll talk and.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
At least you guys already have like that, like you know,
friendship going on the relationship.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah, I think at some point something could happen. Yeah,
that be sick.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
Yeah, And now that the EP is out, what's next?
Speaker 3 (51:49):
I think try to work on expanding that. So how
I was I was kind of talking about how I
feel like we finally reached like a sound that I'm
comfortable with. I'm real happy with this and it feels
original to me. I think, just work off for that,
try to try to keep collaborating. I really love collaborating
with people and just like sharing the music and they're like,
oh I like this, and then they come in with
(52:10):
their voice and they change the song, you know, with
their style. I think collaborating more shows, try to work
on some shows. I think, just keep going and keep
a chill, keep it day by day, just keep going
with what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
That's fire, bro. We want to congratulate you on everything
you have got going got them almost but yeah, honestly
we're excited for for what's coming next and you know
you always have our support. Thank you guys, appreciate.
Speaker 6 (52:38):
It of course.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
And then before we wrap up this episode, is there
a message you want to give to like the fans?
Speaker 3 (52:42):
No, yeah, I thank you guys for all the support
that you guys, for listening to the new EP, watching
see you guys, think.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
To everybody who stays to the very end for going
to like, comment, subscribe, follow holding on all social platforms
Speaker 6 (52:58):
And listen to the new EP and school chains out
th
Did you get a chance to talk to Ivan maybe
about doing something maybe.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What collaborations, like do you dream about or like what
are some goals that you really want to hit if
we go.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Like crazy big, I really would love one with you interaction.
But I think when I really felt that, like I
can do this and I really got that confidence was
definitely opening on tour for you.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
How did that come about? Like how did the offer come?
Like you want to open up or like and what
would say is the biggest thing you learned from watching perform?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Mm hmm, I think it.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Was what's up?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Guys? Welcome back to another podcast. If you guys are
new to the channel, to make sure guys like come
and subscribe and listen to us on the iHeart radio
or wherever you listen to your podcast. But today, guys,
we have a special guest. Second time he comes to
the set, but first time we should have full on podcast.
Give it up for.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Thank you, Thank you guys for inviting me for I
remember the first.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Time you came. I think it was actually like the
first artists to come to this studio, right because you.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Shot that like it was like a mini.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Little segment was for for I don't know, but I
sang a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah. I remember, like I think these lights didn't even
work or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
It was like you were the very first artists coming here.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I think I think you guys told you you guys, yeah,
said you popped the chair or something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Now, but it's pretty cool now, it's all. It's all done.
I felt a few renovations, but you know, I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I love the little decoration you guys have. I was
just checking this out right here too. Oh yeah cool, Yeah,
that's nice.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
But thank you for taking the town of be here.
You know, hype been You know, we've been seeing your growth.
We saw you open up or one of the biggest
artists in which is amazing. You just dropped your album.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
To say that get to Get I'll tell you that
probably now. Yeah, it's been it's been a crazy ride.
I mean I've been at it for a little more
than a year. I dropped my first single it was
like May, like last year. So it's been a lot
in a year, and we've had to grow a lot
in the in that same year. It's been awesome and
grateful to to be able to do this and wake
up and say that this is what I do is
(02:27):
the best feeling in the world, damn.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And kind of to take it back a little bit,
how did you start in the music? Where did the
love for music come from? Because I feel like, you know,
you've come a long way, and I feel like I
think people are very interested on how someone could get
to the level that you are at right now.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So yeah, I mean it took a while. I mean
ever since a little kid in my house there was
always Mexican music. So my dad was always playing Mexican
music on the radio in the car everywhere, so always
heard it and it was more like banda Corridos type
of stuff. And my da wud always me down. I
was like eight years old and he was send me
out with the make me play according and uh yeah,
(03:13):
but I never liked it. I'll start crying. I was little,
so I'd be like, I don't want to defrustration. I'm
trying to play black Zombies, you know. And so yeah,
time passed. I met a homie, I met a friend
at school who was playing He was singing the settlemental song.
It was like it was one of those but it
was this elemental song that I knew and I was like,
(03:34):
I went to school where was majority like white kids,
and it wasn't really. There was no Mexican, there was
no Hispanic. There was nothing for me to relate to
somebody there except him. So yeah, he he came over
to my house one time because he was like, yo, all,
want to ask my girlfriend now to homecoming? And I
saw that you played the accordion because I would always
play my dad, and he saw a video that I
posted on my story. He's like, let's learn it and
(03:55):
let's play at school at this white school, like you
know what I'm saying. And we did. We played it.
He showed me a few songs. He showed me plat
remember said Adisonal He played that. I was like, what
what the well? And ever since then just started getting
into music, played with my with my family, my brother
and my dad and are here.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah. I also saw your profile too that before you
launched yourself as like a professional artist, you were in
a group of right yeah, and that was what their
dad and your brother You.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Said, yeah, yeah, it's a group. They're still going right now,
Arima Gaza. And so we would play just local parties,
local gigs. I played, I sing pretty Meda just like
right now. My dad was according to Segunda, and my
brother started and actually on tour, I took them both
and we still work together. Ye, so we do shows
like I still bring in with me, so we're still team.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
But you don't do like those weekly gigs anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
No, I think I stopped right after tour. I think
I stoped right after tour. They were like, hey, I
think I think this is going somewhere, like we started
feeling it and he's like, you should just focus full
time on this. You know, they believe in me. You
know we work together. It's all love. We're still there.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Did they find like a replacement or like they just
like stop?
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Actually my homie Michael that plays like you told me,
it's the same circle. It was the same circle he
plays with them now.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, how does it feel like having that chemistry with
your family? You know started off at the backyard gigs
and then you know, now you're going on tour and
then you know you can keep that same circle.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
You know, it feels pretty nice. It feel pretty cool
to to keep the same people and keep the same
ideas and you know the relationship is always there. I
always make the joke that you know, even if we
fire or we argue, we still got to breakfast together.
They're still going to sit down for dinner. So it's
always been cool to have to work with family because
they're not going anywhere, you know what I'm and I
don't know, it's been awesome. I think it was pretty
cool to, you know, lean on my dad at first
(05:43):
because I didn't know how to and he to like
that the type of stuff made me nervous, and so
he kind of did that for us and I learned
through him and then for it to kind of switch
and then me kind of be like, yo, Dad, you
got to do this, or my brother, you got to
do that. It's a cool switch. And I like that
we all feel comfortable make that switch when we have to.
You know, there's nothing like oh'm boss, or my dad's
(06:03):
the boss, or my brother's the boss. Like we're all
just there to to work and just keep going.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
That's actually pretty cool that you mentioned how like working
with family is a little bit different because, like you said,
like you guys are still going to eat breakfast together,
like no one's going anywhere, And it reminded me of
the time when we used to live together. Was like,
oh if if if I don't do it, then I'm
a quick and show you a picture.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
He tried to quit it like three times, but he
was like you know what, guys, no, yo.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
My laptop like.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Charge plugged it and I was like, no, let it
charge a little bit and we're gonna keep going because
we let you get.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
At the time.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So like, yeah, you know what happens. It happens, and
I think, uh, it's part of it. It's part of it.
Always somebody, somebody's always gonna get a little man. My
brother's the one that always gets mad. He's the he's
the grandpy pants one.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And then is your brother younger or older?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
He's younger by a year. He's my twin. If you
guys ever seen him.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
You guys, oh at the party right, yeah, you guys.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Might have seen him. Yeah, he met this guy and
he was like the my homie. He told him all
this is his brother. He's like, I guess people always
said we look like twins.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
And then where were you raised? Because I know you
were talking about high school.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Wanted to know like what, oh yeah, kind of right here,
kind of l A. We came out to l A a
lot because there's a story called Everybody Knows Music. So
I would always come out there. My dad would need
something for the accordion. I was always out here in
l A. But I mainly grew up in Ontario Ranchmung area,
so I basically I am more of an I person.
But I always always say LA is so much easier.
(07:45):
But from that it was like l A.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And I kind of want to talk about the first
approach that you had to I guess make it as
a as a musical. What was like the turning point
for you where it clicked in your head like, Okay,
I could do this fully with this A specific video,
specific interaction that you had. Was it a record deal
like talk.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
About that a little bit of breaking, Yeah, I mean I'll.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Break moment there you go.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I think I think it took me a while to
believe it back to the headman and I'd be like,
this is what I do. It took me a long
long time because I mean I had like a couple
of videos that did well, and then I had releases
that did well. But I think when I really felt
that like I can do this and I really got
that confidence was definitely opening on tour for you one
because it was it was such a bro was so
(08:33):
many people bro and it was like you could you
have to lock in and you have to be confident,
you have to take the stage. And I think being
forced to do something that big, which is so much
different from doing it through a video. So video you
get a bunch of views, you don't see those people,
but when they're in front of you, you see them.
You see everybody. Actually you hear it. You see the
lights when they go up, you see the lights when
they go down from the phones. So having to be
there in real life, I think that that kind of
(08:55):
flipped the switch to me where I'm like, all right,
this is serious. It's not a joke. This is our job.
Let's check business. Also have fun and enjoy and be grateful.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
And how did that come about? Like how did the
offer come? Like hey you want to open up?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Or like did you guys like pitch or how it
was so random. I woke up one day and my
dad was like he kind of manages like the like
the booking kind of he helps me out with that.
And he was like, hey, they call me if you
want to open very I'm like, you got prank called
bro like because we have the there's like a booking
number on the page. I'm like, somebody prank called. He's
like no, for real. They're like saying like, yo, like,
(09:26):
let's talk nah, And I had just woke up to
I'm like I'm dreaming or something. So yeah, we sit down.
We talked and it was like, Yo, we heard about
you and we would like you to join us. And
before they even said details, I was like, Yo, I'm down.
I'll do it for free. I'm down. I don't care
what it is. I don't care where we're going. Let's
just do it. I don't care how many dates. I
was just excited for that opportunity. That was super fun.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Then after when it started sinking in, were you like nervous, hyped?
What was going through your head? Because I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Think I think it hit me in a moment where
I felt ready. I think if it would have hit
me a little before, I wouldn't have felt ready. I think, uh.
I think being on stage was one of the hardest
ones for me. I always mentioned how that was like
never something I imagined it all, Like, I know some
people are like I want to be on stage. I
never imagined to be on stage. So I finally got
(10:14):
on stage. It took me a while to really get
into it, like you know, how to crowd work the crowd,
how to sing, how do you come out, how do
you like interact and everything. But I had had enough
like show like stage experience the point where when we
got to the tour, I was like, this is something
that came at the perfect moment, like I got this.
So it was full confidence I think from the team
as well, because it was we had also they had
(10:35):
also came out along on all the shows with me,
so the confidence was up high. I think we did
a good job. We were really happy to be there.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And what would he say, is the biggest thing you
learned from watching perform?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Mm hmm, I think it was. It was definitely like
the way the way you carry yourself. I think that's
something that I try to watch a lot. And how
there's different styles of it. For example, you have like
Bessel comes out and he's just screaming energies up high,
seme best do that, but he was kind of like
it's just straight. I don't know, he just kind of
walks around.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
He's just like he's like a mellow.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, he walks like a little so he has a
little I'm like, okay, So there's different styles. I realized that,
like you kind of choose your style on stage, you
kind of choose your style the same when you choose
your style music and you go with it. And the
number one thing is confidence because you could just see
the confidence in him, and I'm like you all these
other artists, I'm like, it's just about confidence at the
end of the day, for sure.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
And what city was your favorite from the tour?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You've always asked you that's too hard, that's too hard.
But there was one that was very memorable was I
always talked about It was Indianapolis for sure. Yeah, but
I loved all of them, but Indianapolis was very memorable
because my guys came out first. They would always come
out first, so they walk out and and I would
walk out once they started coind of playing. But when
the guys walked out, was like, and then like I
(11:48):
kind of peeked. I think someone saw my ears, so
I don't know they saw. I was like, whoa, Because
there's this scary part about opening that you're like you
always hear openers, like no one likes them. They're like,
get it over with, like I hope they finished, and
like hopefully they get cut a little bit so we
could get to the to the big guy, to the
right guy. So that was kind of scared when we
first got there, if anything, and the team talked about it,
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were like, yo, just keep a chill, like you know,
we don't know how what the reaction is going to be.
But people reacted like amazing. It was awesome, Like people
were excited to see us as well. And you know,
Ewan's fan base just they're such they're so cool, they're
so accepting. There they were so welcoming, I mean so
welcoming of us, and it was a great experience and
every venue they were so welcoming.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
That's great to hear because I remember one time one
of us is gonna say one time we went to
like one of his tours. I remember it was like
it was the first I remember exactly, like the observatory,
the opener was like performing and like middle performance. They're
like I haven't Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Now, my brother went to it to a concert beforehand,
like a while back, and he told me he's like, yo,
who yo, it's our turn now he's like, I just
want to know. We went to a concert and they
were just like, oh, I even we got it.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, And I wanted to make a note of that
as well, because we did see, like you touched upon
how there was some dates that you went to, like
it wasn't the full tour, like it was like a
little like like a thing that said all, you know,
to see.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
What I need.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And then I saw some tiktoks and people are like, oh,
you know I'm going on this specific day and like
he's not going.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I'm so bummed out.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, I think that's that's that was pretty cool to
see that. I think that that kind of changed my
mind when I was going into it, because when when
we first got the call, I was like I was excited,
but I was like, all right, just chill because just
in case, you know, they're like, oh, like we don't
we want iven because that happens, you know. But I
started seeing those polls where it's like I can't wait
to see Julio in Las Vegas, and then the comings
like he's not there, and like, what do you mean
(13:38):
he's not there? And I was like, well, like people
people want to see me as well, I think I
thought that was super cool. I saw some tiktoks where
they were like, uh, just like oh, when I found
out that Juli was going to be open, it.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Was like, you don't see that for an opener, you
know that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I feel like, yeah, I was pretty grateful. I was
pretty grateful to see that type of reaction for everybody.
Super happy.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah's we want to congratulate you on going on this tour.
And something that I'm super curious to know is what
was the interaction or what was the relationship with Ivan,
you know, get you know what, what do you think
about him as a person and as an artist?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Pretty sure? I think I think the same we were
talking about him on stage. He's just kind of like confidence, swag.
Is he smooth? I think he's like that as a person.
We met him on the first show, it was like
in Missouri, kind of just bumped into him like it
was boom, he went his way, went my way, just
kind of mat and then over time we just kind
of bump into each other and just catch up. Just
pretty sure stuff. I would just tell you. I remember
asking him one time, I'm like, do you still get nervous?
(14:34):
He's just kind of fizz and like you're used to it.
He's like, yeah, like you got it, you know once
he's been at it for a while. But I think
it was super cool. I think it was super cool.
I think we didn't bump into each as much as
I would have liked to, and I think it was
We actually had a joke. I don't know if you
guys know, no Auzzie's photographer, Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And
he's like, you don't even like it. So I'm like,
(14:54):
what do you mean, bro, I'm like, I message you guys.
He's like, no, you don't hang out with us. But
it was like, because I had this whole like team
that we were driving, you know, we were kind of
like boom boom boom in the hotel, booking there, beingb's
and doing kind of everything with my dad. I had
to be there with my dad like no, I don't
book this one, I don't like that one. Let's do
this one. Or a guy on like yoga, did you
(15:15):
bring the mics? Like boom boo boo boom. So at
the same time, it was like, because we're kind of
running with a smaller team where everybody has like their
second jobs, I kind of like I kind of have
to help everyone out, and my brother has to We
all have to help all everybody each other out. So
it was kind of hard to find the time to
just chill because we got to get here to this
hotel to be halfway tomorrow, to make it to this
date the next day.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
And it's like, yeah, so you guys were in charge
of all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, I mean not full. We obviously have like a
lot of people. I have to have my managers and stuff.
But there was points where like, you know, for hotels
and stuff, and like driving what time are we leaving?
With time are we going? So it sounds fun. You're
you're at the city, you're in the city, you're in
New York, and we get to be there in New York,
but you got two hours to hang out and you've
got to go.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Sometimes you don't even sleep bet you know, you're just
like worrying about going to the next city.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
That stuff happened. We had the very last show where
we decided we have to hang out. We're like, we
have to hang out, man, Anybody and his team were
us like, yo, we have to hang out. We haven't
like hung out and just like chilled outside of like
meeting each other between like work and yeah, we hung
out with some kind of sah we changed gifts and everything.
Super nice people I met. I met his team and
(16:23):
we we kind of shared a little moment. It was
super awesome. And yeah, we left. I think we were
in McCallen, I think, and we had to drive up
all the way to San Antonio and I think we
made it at like four am. We had a wake
up at like nine am, and it was just like
it's just you don't sleep red bull yam when I
was going.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
And aside for that, what were some other like obstacles
you faced during the tour, like maybe like there was
a point where maybe like sick or like or something
like that, Like did you go.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Through that was my biggest three actually was getting sick.
I was like I cannot get sick, and I had
bad like this bag would just beat theminess.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You're like, I'm like, I'm for redibules in a row and.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
No, I can't can. I would drink electrolytes and everything.
But I think one of the biggest challenges was keeping
everyone on the same page. Like we get there and
everyone's happier and one's hype. Everyone's everyone's on a high
bro Like we're on tour. It's like one of the
dreams of every musician is to go on tour with
just anybody, like just going.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Tour in general potentials.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So we would be like in like Chicago's like maybe
the third day, second day of tour, and everybody's like yeah,
oh yeah, like and I would like turn them down.
I would tell them like, yo, keep it chill. I
know we're all like super hype. I know we're all
super happy, but problems are going to come. Like this
natural is just part of life. Like problems will come.
(17:45):
You guys need to just remember like, yeah, we're all
happy and stuff, but keep it chill and when the
problems come, keep it chill, stay relaxed, Like keep this
vibe up that you guys have up right now as
much as you can, and just keep it relaxed because
those problems did come. You know, sometimes someone up they
didn't really sleep well, you know, they're having not having
the best day. They might say something that's that's a
little crazy. Luckily we didn't, we didn't fight at all,
(18:07):
but there was just those days with me someone was yeah,
someone was just not in a good mood, someone's just
a little tired than the other day, and we just
have to give each other space and also manage that
that emotional side, like because you're together with someone for
so long that you start to get to know them
real well and you like their habits and yeah, and
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Sometimes you just see him you're like, oh, I don't know.
That's why I like, stay right here.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I don't have to look at that. Uh. In Vegas
was mad because they didn't get a sandwich hunch.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
We can I again once again, he got mad, like
tell you this, tell you this. We had worked since
seven in the morning because I don't know why radio
stations decided that they started at crack of dawn, right anyway,
you know, from there we were going to activations. We
had our own activation, like it was literally non stuff.
We didn't have minutes to sit down. Yea, yeah, yeah,
(19:01):
you know. We were done with one interview. The other
person was like, there was.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
A line I feel and then the last yeah, I
see he's laughing because he did.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And then and then the last one was but that
one he he didn't come like we had to go
to him, you know, but it was it was easy.
It was just a few cameras, tripods, we know, weach
carried one and over there.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
They were like, oh I saw there was some food.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And then right, yeah yeah, very kindly goes like, oh
have you guys ate we're like today, not at all.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's like it's five thirty, like I've been praying for
this moment.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Yeah for real.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
But then and then they were like, oh, well we
already we were read leaving, but let's put some start.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
She started putting sandwiches in the bag and then you know,
like take.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It on with you, right, And I was like that
was like hell yeah, you know, shout out to her
like that's such kind person's kind soul.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
But I was helping him pack the stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Right, we get back and I was all hell yeah,
like we're about to eat and I was forced to
drink two beers.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It was horrible. It was horrible.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It was buzzed too.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Get back.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
They start taking the sandwich shot take didn't get one.
That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Yeah, look for real.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Het anyway, but then I was like like here, get
half of mind and like a hole right away he
went up.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
But who was in charge of putting this almost.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
And then he leaves to like the casino for two hours.
We call him no answer.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
If you don't have nothing nice to say.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Sometimes it's at the casino, y'all.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Let me know about the comments.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Damn well, I think it's really bad as that you
know you learn from this experience is the way they're
expressing yourself. I could tell you, you know you're in
the right mind, You're locked in. You were locked in,
you know, like being here. You know you're the artist,
but also you know you have some sense of responsibility
for your team, and I think that's going to prepare
you so when you have your own tour and vitas,
(20:53):
when you do have.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Your own cars, guys helpfull.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You know, we're manifesting that for you. And there's no dieting,
there's no doubt in our minds that you're gonna have
your own tour soon.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Thank you bro working on that. That'd be awesome. I
think that's one of my next goals, the next to
my biggest goals for sure.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Having that be awesome. And I also wanted to ask
you to are you like happy the way things turned
out because you started with backyard gigs? You know, and
then I feel like that kind of like prepared to like,
you know, going on tour and stuff. And I feel
like there's a lot of artists who just never had
that experience, you know, and they just like hit and
they just get put in front of like I don't know,
cameras and stages and everything, and they're just like, fuck,
(21:29):
what do I do?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
No? Yeah, I think that was a big thing that
we were talking about at first, was like, oh, you've
already played live, like you've already done this before. But
and it makes sense, but personally, like me, I don't
think I don't think it helped me. Bro I don't
think it really changed much for me too, because for example,
when I did play with my backyard gigs, I want
to say a word into the mic, I wouldn't say
a word. I just seeing back up now any mad
(21:53):
like ante, Like I wasn't really outgoing and all that
type of stuff, you know, and it was just like
pretty chill stuff like sign and now being on the
stage or like people asking you questions, like it was
very for me. I feel like personally it makes sense,
but I don't feel like it helped me much, just
because it's so such a big difference of a step,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And so you seel like this is like a whole
another pillow, like it's.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
A whole different world. I think it's a whole different world.
I think it definitely does help musically though, like for
example being on stage and playing for sure, because you
already kind of have the experience. But for example, things
like using the inner monitors the little headphones. I'd never
done that before and that's like that weirded me out
the first time we used it. It just makes it
all weird how you plague and the communication on stage
(22:38):
is so much harder, Like there's these things that you
never think about that come with playing on a stage
and on a different level than playing in the backyard
is like super different. Yeah, but it does help though
for sure to a certain level.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, I feel like that whole thing with like the
monitors and the inn yours like it's another shit because
there's delay, right, So.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
When you play in a big area, ask mon echo,
so you if you go yep, yep, yep, yep, yep,
and it's just balancing around and you're not getting to
know like how to play. You know what I'm saying,
So that happens. Sometimes it cuts out. So sometimes you
see a video of like so and so artists like
super offbeat, and people are like, I know, is like bro.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Just because he didn't know.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, it's complicated.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
We were talking about that not that long ago, about
how like the engineer job too, you.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Know, like it was yesterday.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
No you got in a respectful way, you know, but
we're just like, damn, I wonder what goes on because,
like you said, like an artist is singing, they think
they're on beat and everything, but like what the people
hear is like some other ship.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah yeah yeah, or like sometimes the crowd is something funny.
I noticed this happened for the first time. I was
that we were singing and the crowd was singing and
I was hearing there was so loud that I was
hearing them after what I was saying. So it's like, oh,
it's just like this whole rever thing and you really
have to focus on and and like again I actually
be like backed up a little bit because they were
(23:57):
just I can't hear. I start getting confused, you know what,
I then start getting confused.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
That means there any like memorable like interaction that you
had with the fan that kind of like blew you away.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I think, I think, I think just then coming up
in general, it was like.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
WHOA, like want want in your autograph picture?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I think what we had merch that we were selling
and and people were like buying it. I was like,
you guys are buying this? Like for me, it's because,
like I said, it took me so long to like
believe that this whole thing is real, like I always
you always dream it, but for it to like actually
start kind of happening, and actually you gotta pinch yourself
a little bit. So I would like walk out and
see people with like my love my album logo on
(24:37):
their back? Whoa you guys? You guys want to wear
this from? I don't know? It's it may be so happy.
It's a pretty crazy feeling to to see someone wearing
your logo. It's awesome.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Are we gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
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Yeah, he's gonna be dropping an album. Sorry now, Christmas
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It's plain pity no, like you guys know and everything.
My mom is bumped them, but my favorite dessert dude,
(26:29):
and actually have some at the Latin billboards them and
you guys got like them. You guys got something with chicken.
I was like, bro, like try this.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
When you like it is?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah, like one of the things I really enjoyed doing
it as we get older. You said back, like, now
we're the unks on the roof. But I think now
karaoke to five am. And I know you guys do
it too better because I know I'll text you, dude,
I'll literally tell you guys like a foreign money every
single holiday. Hey, you guys up, everybody's up?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
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Guess it already. Yeah, classics for this holiday special. You know.
On the twenty second, I did want to tell you
guys about my recipe for ponche that I am going
to be bringing. It's going to be something special, unique,
and that you guys can do it as well. You
guys can because you guys like to copy everything, come
up with your own. But of course the punch and
(27:27):
everything else Fiscalo is going to be inspired by of
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It only comes around during the holidays, and it is
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keep looking because it's only once a year and if
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Speaker 6 (27:54):
Gonna have to wait all the way till next year.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah, so let me tell you guys about my ingredients. So,
of course, one of my favorite drinks Hamaika biscus biscus.
Back then, I was a chat hamica, but like lately
it's been switching. I don't know why. I feel like
I just kind of taste like a desert thing, like
because chata is like it's.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Always if it's too sweet sometimes.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
No, like it's always if you like, if you go
jewel it was, so I feel like I've been teamed
like Hamiah ever since. But hamiica nectar apple juice, splash
of lime and of course topped with sprite winter spice Cranberry, which,
like I said, you know, this is good alone on
its own, but it keeps up essence of but it
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makes it cool and refreshing.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
That's a very intricate ingredy. I'm gonna have to copy it.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Yeah, but no secular. It seems a little intricate.
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Say, something's a little hard to say. What's it's. It's
it's winter theme.
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Speaker 6 (29:08):
Gonna be nice. They're they're coming in, they're setting everything up.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It's gonna look beautiful and the special performance by those very.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Own Stay tuned for it. December twenty second and back
to you, Julio Cesser.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Bro was no.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Man, everybody back there. You know, noe by By, your
music is really good. I'm really sorry, you know, you.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Know, okaying.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Back to your jo as we were saying, you know,
the album the ep.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
EPs called this Gonna Thos like a sadd e p
It's like basically a little ideas like it surrounds around
a cake bag hanging out with the homies, but your
mind is somewhere else. That's just connect the moment you
thinking about a girl. I've kind of done more of
like this, some older music, more saturay music. I kind
of stuck to that, and basically the whole idea for
the CP was kind of to switch it up a
(30:14):
little bit. So we started from covers and it kind
of limits you at the moment when you want to
really express yourself musically or lyrically, you get limited because
it's some cover. Puss and Soon says this one, I
really try to just dive deep into into my lyrics,
I feel like, into the melodies and just musically and
just really try to create a sound that can be
(30:34):
more more recognizable as my sound. You. We went to
recorded here in l A and Yellow Room, and we
got like a whole week and I was just mentioning
David say woa. He helped me out on that. Uh yeah,
we just sat down, we went crazy. We tried some
new stuff, we tried some some sense. I really started
(30:57):
like I feel like I feel like for a while
in it and then it's like it's coming back up heavy.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Yeah, I feel like I had the same thing to
like while I was like, now I like the total.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
More than yeah is kind of I think I think heavy,
you know.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, I was gonna mention that because I feel like
the Bao was really like that back watches sound. But
then I feel like now they're starting to put it
into like the newer songs, and I think it's not
really that watch it, but like it just gives that punch.
I mean that's what I personally.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
There's a song, a pestl song has then it just
goes crazy, and that's why I wanted to add this.
We had a Tollo Yeah, we got some Sikes Collapse,
we got we always got the Tea on there. We
got Amantha, which I was super excited about, and we
got Ma Hoomie So which I think you guys had
them here before too, right yeah earlier. Yeah, cool guy
you have three collapse. It was original stuff, just trying
(31:46):
to build a new song basically.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
And did the album come out exactly how you wanted
it to or did it like EAP evolved during oh yeah,
the EP, or did it evolve like during the process
it changed.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
So, for example, there's a song called THEA on there
and I wrote that February. You know, it's almost a
year ago now, and I had my kid die in there.
I'll play it all the time. Everybody liked it, and
I showed it to saw Wood one time in the studio.
He was like, yeah, it's cool. Record it like this
like the My kids like the demo and I'm like,
hmm yeah. Time passes by and we take I took
(32:19):
it to the studio and David's like, yeah, we're gonna
do this and we're gonna do that. And then Midicael,
my homie Maer, was like, let me add this, and
it just it just changed the whole song. I showed
it to Sawda and He's like, this is even better.
But it sounded way, way, way, way way different. It
was just so much more produced. We had just so
much more ideas. I never really I mean, David had
(32:39):
me in the studio doing something. We're like, we like
doing all these weird stuff that I never do, you
know what I'm saying. I feel like I've always kind
of just sang very just like people tell me I
have like old man voice. I got, you know what
I'm saying, just yelling, and so switched it up. I
think we definitely evolved, and I think we're going to
try to stay on that path and try to find
the sound. I'm really but with how it came out,
(33:00):
I feel like this this we're on the right track now,
you know what I'm saying. I feel like I feel
like we found what the sound that we wanted to
find for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, I feel like that's the hardest thing as an
artist to come up with the style, and I mean,
you're doing it. And another another question that I had
for you is, you know, working with Adimanta. You know,
he's one of the most important writers in music right now.
How was it like working with him? Like, what is
his structure like compared to yours? You know, I'm pretty
sure everybody works different when building a song.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
No, it was pretty cool. I mean I think it
was like my second time medi huim so really didn't
know him now well yet. So he comes to the
studio and he speaks like a more just Mexican. Bro.
I feel I feel like us here, you know, we
speak a little differently. I feel like I speak more
like my parents than like the younger people from Mexico.
So he comes up with this with this like different
(33:50):
type of Spanish that I don't even know. Sometimes like
what does that mean? He's just called and I'm like, what,
like what? I started getting up and then I started
catching up to what he was saying. Then we get
to writing. That's where I couldn't catch up. Bro, He's
just and I'm like, are we gonna do what?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Vowur?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Are we gonna do next? He's like, hold on, done,
damn bro, all right, cool, let's do it. So that
guy's a beast with the pan. He just just did it. Bro,
just did those?
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Is there something like kind of like surprising or can
you go into more detail with that? Because I think
that's there's probably a million people like, you know, dying
to get to write a song with him or you know,
be in you know that created space with him.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, for sure. I think I think at that point,
once I saw like she's going crazy. I think I
started taking more as like learning experience. I was like, okay,
like how where are these ideas coming from? Like why
did he choose this? And I kind of like started
soaking it in. I kind of I kind of took
like a student position at that point. I was just
like I started kind of listening around. But it was
super awesome, super cool guy, super fun to work with.
(34:53):
He kind of was just like, you know what, here's
a song, you work on it and produce it. We
went in the studio, we worked on it first version
and it was cool. But I was like, bro, this
is with that manthamb Like, let's let's bump it up
a bit, scratch the whole thing during the trash, Let's
do it again. I did my vocals all over again.
We did the King Tho all over again.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
We added.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
All these effects, brought in David, and I feel like
it felt like find a product. It felt like like
a song that that was like me and Adamanta and
I'm super happy. I think I think that was performing
the best out of the Holy p It's one of
my first songs. Fire.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Yeah, it's a really good song.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
And then when it comes to writing, do you how
would you say you are with the writing process, Like
do you struggle with it? Like does it come natural
to you?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I think it's it's very scrambled. And I think because
I didn't start writing until recently. So I didn't start
writing until I released my first song. I released my
first couple of few covers, and then I realized, yeah,
I need to start writing, so I would. I'm a
very beginner writer. And sometimes I have songs that just
come out. For example, there's a song called uh that
I like to talk about a lot because it was
(35:55):
it was on tour as well. We had this first
it was the first ride out to Missouri, and I'm like,
I have so much time, I need to do something.
Just wrote it. That one came out so natural, kind
of like I was talking about it method just it's
just sometimes it just come out. But then sometimes I
have songs that take me four or five days. It
just takes me a while. The first day is like
I get a melody and I get like a phrase
(36:18):
and it just sits there. Come back to the next day.
It's just sits there, and it just sits there until
one day is just everything just comes out. I don't
know why that happens, and I think sometimes it's also
because I don't like to give up on songs, Like
once I really like something or a certain sound, I
hate to be like, nah, it didn't work out. I
hate that feeling of like I didn't work out. I
(36:38):
hate that the feeling of giving up is so much
like worse than just making a song, finishing it and
you didn't think it was that good. Like just giving
up on it feels so much worse and just making
a not good song, you know what I'm saying. So
sometimes it takes me a minute, I think just because
on the fact that if it's not going out, I
just don't give up on it.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, what he says. What was the most challenging song
from the EP to write or just to general, Oh,
it's this.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
There's this one called inside and and I wrote it
and I liked it, but I felt like it was
so hard to structure it and like produce it. I
don't know why, Like it just felt like what do
you even put in this? Do you put piano? Do
you put quinto do we make it like fast? We
make it? So I don't know what to do with it.
I took it. I took it to the studio. We
work on it for a day and nothing happened. We
(37:24):
just nothing. We tried electric guitar, we tried to quinto,
we tried, we tried all this different stuff. I don't
know if I said the name is called inside and
nothing worked. We come back the next day. David sent
a text to some homie from Chicago. His name is Aaron.
I think this electric guitar. We call another homie, George.
He does, and David's like, we're gonna put electric guitar
(37:49):
by hold, Like what bro for all? He's like, oh,
trust me? Like all right. I was like, go ahead,
let's do it. Let's try it. We get it. It
sounds awesome. It's like my it's my favorite, like instrumental
wise on the Holype. That was just so cool because
the way it's written. I was thinking about it in
the way of a pop song. I don't know if
(38:09):
you guys heard you know, sa Hello Bad Bunny heard
that song. So I kind of try to make that
type of structure, like a pop structure. I was like,
how do I make this Mexican? It worked out. I
don't know how it worked out, but it was hard
and it worked out.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
And kind of like, going based off what you said,
do you find yourself getting influenced from other other genres?
That's not Mukinda because we actually did an interview with
Neton and he was saying like, oh, I don't like
to listen to other people's music because I feel like
I'm going to gravitate. And I don't know if that
has ever happened to you, where like you make a
song and then it ends up sounding like something else
(38:45):
just because like you're sconsciously doing it, you know, Yeah,
sometimes you're writing something that's like, oh, sounds like this, yeah,
and you're like scratch.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
I feel like maybe that happened to him, and then
that's why when I asked him like, oh, do you
listen to music.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
And he's like no, oh yeah. I was like that
all right, next question.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I mean, I think I'm kind of the whole opposite.
I try to listen to so many genres that it
makes it so much that it's like you can't point
it to the one. I feel like that's what I
try to do. I like, I like like a lot
of rock. I do like some rap, but I like
a lot of like actually, surprisingly, I like the trios
those ants like Little Spanhos and stuff like the groups
(39:28):
not but like but like Moss classical like like what
I mean with the where they play with their fingers
like okay, classic guitar stuff kind of like kind of
like that.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I think that's called that. Damn, I might be wrong
on my sound stupid, but.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, yeah, they play bolettos. I think they're called like thrios.
There's always like a little Span shows or like little Dandies.
I might be wrong, but stuff like that just grab gravitate,
so we'ds grabbing stuff from older music too, like listen
to my house, but also grabbing stuff from like this
all internative and like rock and stuff. I like this
artist called Dominic Flag, some a fair artists in the
(40:04):
world just mixing all that and just putting it to
one and trying to make this like unique sound. I
think that's that's always been to go.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, I think it's super interesting because I feel like
MSANA is a point, is getting to a point where
there's no more rules anymore versus back then, like if
you were doing you have to have a web bix.
So like it's pretty interesting and I'm curious to know
like what's next, you know, like what what's going to
be mixed with what? And I feel like there's no
(40:31):
rules right now.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's you could just do whatever you want.
And I think that's what I like.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
I think.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
I think that's what I liked about being in the
studio and being able to try these new things and
it didn't feel weird, you know what I'm saying. So
we were in there playing the sands and stuff and
it didn't feel wrong to do that in Mexican music,
and I think that's how something. I think that's why
it's goneen so global recently for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
And then switching up the topic a little bit to like,
you know, some juicy questions. I want to ask you.
Have you felt any like jealousy or weird energy from
other artists since you dropped your album or like since
you started your career?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Hm hmm ep So I keep seeing album specifically from
from artists. Yeah, I wouldn't say something like.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Me and it's just like damn, like that's kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Or I feel like actually I haven't came across a
bad experience with with anyone. I think everyone's just been like, yo,
are you doing small tuck? Are you doing super nice?
If anything, I became I became Holmes like so were
good friends stuff like that. I think what does happen
is is family with family family. I think when I
(41:37):
first started releasing music, I had this deal and I'm like,
oh I just signed, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like this is for real? Uh look at my song,
like it has this many streams. He's like, we're you
still going to score?
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Right? No, It's like.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Get out of squad and I'm like, I mean, but
I'm working, bro, go to school. It's like that was
it was like wow, bro, like not even like your congratulations,
but you should study. It's like no, but it's just
different believes and people grow up differently, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, I guess they don't really see it
as as a profession if it's not. Some people grow
(42:15):
up just differently, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
And then ever since, like being of Fishery, like in
the music industry, what's something that like shocked you or
that you're like, oh shit, I didn't know things were
like this.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
There's there's just a lot of background stuff bro a
lot of background stuff, like like when I when I
want to release a song, there's so much background stuff,
like you have to turn this in by this time
with this information and put it into the b M
I and then it's a lot of stuff, make sure
it's on YouTube, make sure the lyrics are right when
you drop the It's a lot of background stuff that
I don't know why I never think about. I've always
(42:48):
just been a music fan that's like, oh, that looks
good and this sounds good, but never like WHOA how
much work really goes into it? Yeah, And I feel
like most people, including myself, we don't really we don't
really look at that. We just look at the final part.
You know, at the end of the day, you just
gotta work and this just it's just what you gotta
do and it's just how it goes, and it's just life,
so damn and.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
If you wouldn't have been doing music, like where were you?
What are you be doing right now? I was.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
I was actually cutting hair as a side gig while
doing while doing TikTok starting it up because so when
I started posting on TikTok, I saw it as like
kind of like a hobby, but I was like, hopefully
I could get like maybe like five hundred. I want
like five hundred to a thousand followers. Was my goal
to release a song a gorilla that had written that
(43:35):
I just had like recorded on the side, because I
really I've always liked messing around with like logic, and
I always had my interface. I would always record in
my house. So the goal was like getting like a
thousand followers and then release it and then like get
some streams like some people, some somebody will like it
was go, you know, And I was like, well, if
this is not gonna work out, I needed I'm gonna
cut hair. And I was a barber for a while
(43:56):
and never never professionally though. The other think I was
like in the shop was in my legal bar yeah
no license, nos.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
I was in the garage. And I live in front
of a I live very close to school. And one
day these little kids come by and they're like, yo,
you cut her? Yeah, bro for free. They're like, all right, bat,
we'll be back. They bring like six little boys, bro,
like six sixs Like I want to cut. I want
to cut. I'm not a good barber yet. Right at
that point, I start cutting everyone. Use just messing everyone.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
Bro, I didn't you didn't show them the haircut?
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
But actually, like I'm just playing, it wasn't that bad,
but it wasn't good. It wasn't good either though.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
So you never actually had like a I don't want
it's like a real job, but like like a nine
to five. No, no, just like shut after high school,
you just like started.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
It's because while I was in high school, I was
already work with my dad and my brother. Oh yeah,
so I just wanted something to decide because like going
back to the family thing, there was always somebody that
would be like, oh, but what else do you do? Damn?
And then like I was fine with what I was doing,
and the plan obviously, like at some point was to
keep going and expand it, maybe turning to one or
(45:04):
thank you or just expanded at some point. But it
was always that thing of like what else do you do?
Speaker 6 (45:10):
Though?
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Or like I would tell people like, oh, I'm a musician,
but what's your real job? And I guess it started
getting to me and I started looking for other outputs,
and I guess it's maybe at the end of the day,
I'd never stopped believing in it. Because that's why I started,
you know, posting and working on music on my own.
But it then gets me a little bit and I
feel like that's why I try to jump into barbering.
But you know, I worked out, we're here. I'm happy.
I'm happy it went right.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Damn it. And the question that I always ask artists
is what does like the typical day look like for you?
Because I mean, you're doing this full time. How do
you what's your routine? You know? I mean if you
don't have a routine that that's fine either because I
feel like scram artist artists like you could be like
doing an interview, but then you could also be flying
across that you never know where, or something you know,
like Planet is like the label calls you, yo, we're
(45:53):
doing this fucking almonals, you know, Like what's the vibe
with you?
Speaker 3 (45:58):
I think I try to be organized, but like you said,
sometimes you just can't write. So I mean I sleep late,
wake up late. Usually. I try to try to write
every night as much as I can. I feel like
that's like the nighttime routine, you know what I'm saying,
Try to write, wake up late, depending on how that
song went, maybe wake up and try to finish it.
If I'm not if I'm not feeling it, we just
(46:20):
go kick it with my homies with my brother and
I have this homie that works with me for all
my videos, my gout axel. We this is like every day.
This is like it was funny I'm thinking about right
now as like part of the routine. We just get
together watch music videos and be like, I like that,
I don't like that, this is nasty, this is fire,
this is cool. Next time, let's do this and boom
boom boo boom. We just plan all that type of stuff.
(46:41):
For example, recently we planned out we did like a
little we're just talking about.
Speaker 6 (46:45):
It right now.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
We added metronomes into our end years and we try
to play with like live effects. And I'm sure you
guys seen like fighters I do it now because they
have the samples. We tried that out. I set that
up with my homi axle and just boom boom boom boom.
So I guess there's always something that's part of my
day that has to do with music, But it's never
the same thing, you know what I'm saying. It's never
one thing.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
That's pretty interesting. Yeah, And I only bring that up
because we did an interview with Denny Lux and he
was expressing how sometimes he feels like he has a
lot of time on his hands, and sometimes like that
kind of like eats them up, you know, like overthinking
or he feels like he doesn't have a hobby, which
I think we know, we're all humans, and I feel
like sometimes thoughts could eat us up too, you know.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Yeah, so I thought it was interesting in that, No,
for sure. I actually yeah, I agree with that too.
Sometimes you you're kind of just chilling there. I feel
like that always happens when we finished something. So if
there's a big release and we're done, everything's out, everything
came out, music videos out, everything's out, you reach like
this little like what's the next?
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, maybe like a gap of like just waiting.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, what's that thing called purgatory? When you're between heaven
and hell? Or he's just waiting, it's just you just limbo, limbo,
I'm thinking of limbo. You just just there, bro, and
then you're like, damn, what's next? He just I guess
it's like, oh, look at the results. Okay, he's doing good,
but what else? And you kind of just get to
that point where you need to figure it out on
your own. I think that's the hard part is figuring
(48:11):
out what you're gonna do next on your own. You
know what I'm saying. You have to create that. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
Yeah, that's like the heart is not yeah, because anyone
could drop music. But then after that's like what do
you do?
Speaker 3 (48:22):
You just got to pull that at of thin air,
you know what I'm saying, Like the next idea of
the next color, the next vibe, you know what I'm saying,
the next what's these lyrics going to be a by?
You just got to That's what. It's kind of cool
when it comes out naturally because it's kind of like
it was given to you by some sort of like
music god. Bro, you know what I'm saying. It's like
where's this melody? Oh yeah, yeah, kind of like that.
(48:44):
Sometimes it just comes to you. And I guess that's
why people call it talent, they call it gift because
to some people just comes to them differently than other people.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah, And do you feel like you're under a lot
of pressure? Like how you were saying that, you know
what's next?
Speaker 6 (48:57):
What's next? Do you think sometimes a little overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
I think one hundred percent. I think it always has been,
and I think it always will because you're always you're
always under the pressure of your of your last like success,
I don't know that's a way to say it. So
if you did really you did have something that did
really well, your next one needs to be better, and
so to do something that didn't do better than that
last one. Sometimes you can feel like, oh, I'm going downhill,
(49:22):
you know what I'm saying. But it's just like natural
music goes up and down. It has the highest highs
and it has the lowest low It's like, WHOA, nothing's
going on. And then all of a sudden, you're on
this super big stage and you just met so and
so artists and you just did a collab with so
so person. It's pretty hard. It's a lot of it's
a lot of emotions, a lot of feelings. But I
think the one thing that keeps me grounded is the
fact that like I'm I'm I get to feel this,
(49:46):
you know what I'm saying. I get to feel the
pressure of having to write an album. I get to
feel the pressure of five minutes so I get on stage.
So that's a blessing, even the bad parts are a
blessing for sure.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Damn, that's pretty interesting. A good way to look like
sometimes you just want to feel some sort of emotion,
some sort of pressure, and you're going to My next
question is what collaborations, like do you dream about or like,
what are some goals that you really want to hit?
Speaker 3 (50:13):
I think I think if we go like really big,
if we go like crazy big, I really would love
one with Junior Action. That'd be fine, just because I
feel like I based I feel like I based my
sound a lot on how like the lyrics are real sad,
but then the instrumentals just just like some yeah, yeah,
it goes crazy. So I think I tried to base
it off around him Junior Action. Mm hmm. I think
(50:38):
other genres. I think I would love to try some
other genres maybe in the future future. For staying in
that in that topic, Hobby would be sick to even
though he seems kind of high, we didn't bro We
did it for that same thing I was talking about
where it was like hectic, Yeah, like we would see
(51:00):
him and be like let's hang out, and we were like, oh,
actually we're already leaving. And I wanted to stay so bad.
I remember one time we were like he told me like, yo, stay.
I think we were like in Atlanta and he's like,
y'all stay, and I was like yo. I was trying
to plan it out, like what if you guys leave
and then I'll stay at a hotel here and then
I'll take rent a car and then he's like, broch
(51:20):
just set up. Bro, Like that's not gonna work. Like
let's just go. Like it's cool. We're like yeah, because
I was like I got to hang out with the guys, bro,
Like I gotta, I gotta just they had told me
to like ye, let's hang out, let's sing yells count.
It was tough. Yeah, there's just a lot of moving around. Yeah,
but hopefully one day though, we'll talk and.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
At least you guys already have like that, like you know,
friendship going on the relationship.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah, I think at some point something could happen. Yeah,
that be sick.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
Yeah, And now that the EP is out, what's next?
Speaker 3 (51:49):
I think try to work on expanding that. So how
I was I was kind of talking about how I
feel like we finally reached like a sound that I'm
comfortable with. I'm real happy with this and it feels
original to me. I think, just work off for that,
try to try to keep collaborating. I really love collaborating
with people and just like sharing the music and they're like,
oh I like this, and then they come in with
(52:10):
their voice and they change the song, you know, with
their style. I think collaborating more shows, try to work
on some shows. I think, just keep going and keep
a chill, keep it day by day, just keep going
with what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
That's fire, bro. We want to congratulate you on everything
you have got going got them almost but yeah, honestly
we're excited for for what's coming next and you know
you always have our support. Thank you guys, appreciate.
Speaker 6 (52:38):
It of course.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
And then before we wrap up this episode, is there
a message you want to give to like the fans?
Speaker 3 (52:42):
No, yeah, I thank you guys for all the support
that you guys, for listening to the new EP, watching
see you guys, think.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
To everybody who stays to the very end for going
to like, comment, subscribe, follow holding on all social platforms
Speaker 6 (52:58):
And listen to the new EP and school chains out
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