Andruw Jones Reveals Gold Glove Secrets, Crazy MLB Rookie Hazing Stories, & Hall of Fame Case

Andruw Jones sits down with Matt Barnes to reflect on his legendary MLB career and the conversation around his Hall of Fame case. The Braves legend talks about growing up in Curaçao, breaking into the league at 19, and the unforgettable rookie hazing he experienced. He breaks down the secrets behind his elite defense, his approach to hitting, and the mindset that kept him consistent for over a decade. Jones also shares stories about playing alongside Chipper Jones and Greg Maddux, his Jordan Brand deal, and watching his son Druw follow in his footsteps.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to another dugout edition of All the Smoke
with our final guest of this last couple of days
at All Start Week in Atlanta, twenty twenty five. Five
time All Star, arguably the greatest outfielder centerfielder of all time.
Ten consecutive go gloves. That's a lot of work. Man,
home run leader in the home run leader in two

(00:20):
thousand and five. Welcome to the show, Andrew Jones. Thanks man,
Thanks for having man.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Thank you, Thank you man, a legend in the game.
We're in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
We're kind of talking about a little bit off camera,
how good it is to have it back in Atlanta.
What's your schedule being like since it's been back out here.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm in busy man. First of all, thank you for
having me. You know, I watch it. I watch the show.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh Man, appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
You know, I like it. There's a lot of good
stories in it. So, you know, thank you for having me.
Been busy all start getting being busy for me, I mean,
obviously for a lot of full ma MLB players that
play in Atlanta. A lot of stuff that MLB trying
to get the fans involved with. You go meet and
greed here meet and greed there pictures over here and
stuff that. But you know, they're doing a good stuff

(01:02):
hosting the All Star Game all the time. When whatever said,
he is so obviously having a here in Atlanta, you
know since two thousand, it's been a while. Yeah, you know,
it's good for the fans, it's good for the people
that work around the stadium, people that work you know,
any business and get.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Get Yeah, I'm gonna jump ahead a little bit of fatherhood.
We're talking about that. I'm actually in the middle of
coaching in Peachjam right now. As soon as I'm done
with interview, I'm gonna drive back to Augusta. Your son,
Drew was the second overall pick in twenty twenty two
as an eighteen year old. How did that make you
feel first and foremost to the father and what kind
of guidance do you give during his journey? I know

(01:40):
he's dealt with a little bit of injury, Like what
kind of mental game do you try to give him?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
First of all, I mean, I'm very proud of him.
I me know, you know, me and and his and
his mom raised him very well. We you know, we
guide him, We taught him the right things from the beginning.
By the end of the day, he's the one to
have to make the decision what he want to do
for his few And you know, I think the opportunity
came up and he choose to be professional. He could
have go to college, but he preferred to be that.

(02:08):
And you know, after that, like I say, you know,
trying to raise him right, trying to tell him what's
wrong was right. At the end of the day, he's
going to do whatever you want because you know he's
going to go away, but not much just trying to
tell him the right things. You know, it's supporting. I
think that's why. You know, sometimes parents just get you know,
out of way, trying to want it more than the
kid won. So all I do is trying to support

(02:31):
him and trying to guide him the right way and
let him do his things.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. What would that mean
to you?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I mean, you know a lot of people ask me
that question all the time, you know, and say, you know,
you should be in the Hall of Fame. You know,
when you're going to be in the Hall of Fame.
I have no control of those things, you know what
I mean, But it will be a great honor for myself,
for my career that I had, for my family, for
for the Island careers south to be you know, one
of the first you know cures out player that make

(03:03):
into the Hall of Fame. But you know, not gonna
lie to you, you know, I try not to think
much about it because you know, every January, you know,
you know, your name pop up and people start talking about,
you know, the career that you had, and you know,
the percentage keep going up. So I think we trended
in the right direction. So if it happened, it would
be great. If it don't, you know, I will be

(03:23):
the same person that always been.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know, we received sixty three percent of the vote
last last time they talied up, which needs seventy five.
So you're definitely heading in the right direction. Your your
resume speaks for itself.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Quick kind of question off the cuff. Do you watch
the Little Legue World Series?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I always, I always do have a really strong program.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
For a long time.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
We you know, baseball and Curiors have been big forever,
I mean since you know, since before my dad and
my dad played baseball down there, so it's always been big.
You know, they do run huge in the Caribbean Series.
So first you got to win the Caribbean Series and
then you come to Willing the Sport. So you know,

(04:08):
you got to go to you know, between a lot
of good, tough competitions, like you know you're going to
Puerto Rico's. You know, you have all these other islands
down there that you have to play against to get
to the the Lyric World Series. But you know, the
program is big down there, and the program is big
all around the world because you can see everybody from
all the place like Japan, Korea. I mean, you know,

(04:29):
it's it's it's it's a big program. And you know,
all we want to do is continue to grow it
and get more kids to trying to get you know,
chase their dream that they want to do.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
That's my guilty pleasure man. As a forty five year
old old ass man, I love watching the Little.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
League World Series. That shit has subbed up to me.
So paint the picture of your upbringing in Curausel.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
You know, growing down there, all I want to do
is probably you know, just be a kid, be honestly.
You know, you know, as a little boy, you know,
at six year old, you know, you watch baseball on TV.
You be like, hey, you know I want to I
want to I want to play baseball on TV. You're
not thinking that you want to be a professional baseball player.
So we get a lot of baseball from you know,

(05:12):
South America, like the Winter Ball League, then from Venezuela,
so I see a lot of you know, Latin American
players play. You know, we used to only get World Series,
you know. And I was a big Oakland A's fan
growing up. So you know, I grew up watching the A's.
You know, all want to do where is the white shoots?
So you know that was that was my thing. But

(05:34):
you know I followed baseball, says a little kid. So
you know, always been a dream to to play it.
But you know, you grow up, you become a little man,
and and you you know, you start focusing school and
you start have to think about, you know, what kind
of career you want to do in school. So I
always wanted to work be a technician and work with airplanes,
so I started going to a technical school. But then

(05:56):
you know, I start you know, getting a little older,
getting a little mature. Were in you know, you know,
I always been They've always been doing tryouts and curisau.
So I never went to know a tryouts and curis out.
You know, I play a game. Somebody got hurt, so
I got in and a scout went down there looking
at somebody else and I got in the game. It

(06:17):
was so weird. I got in the game and I
had two home runs and the scout was like, who's
this kid? So, you know, for for all the kids
that that you know, trying to change the dream and anything,
you know, even basketball, football, whatever, when you get the opportunity,
you just have to take advantage of And I think
that's what I did my whole career, you know, since
you know, since I've become a professional. The Braves gave

(06:39):
me an opportunity to play play the game that I
love and that I wanted to do, and you know,
I took advantage of it. At what age was that
game with the I was thirteen.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
So thirteen is that when it kind of became more
realistic that this could possibly be something I can.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes, at thirteen, I was like, all right, so I
think I can do this. And then you know, the
scouts starting in the door and say we want you know,
we're going to bring a bigger scout to watch your
practice and then it's like fourteen, Then you know you
start thinking, okay, maybe I got a chance, you know,
so you start preparating yourself a little bit more, you know,
but still in school involved, so you have to still

(07:14):
go to school and stuff like that. But at sixteen,
you know, I made a big decision with my parents,
and you know, my dad told me this, I'll never
forget this, to say, it's no way back home. So
this is one way, you know, and even not saying
don't come back home to the house, but it was
just one way to this because you know, you know,
you're not finished school, you know what I mean. You

(07:36):
you're making this your career. So it's one way. So
you just don't look.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Back financially obviously being able to put your family in
a better situation. But what kind of pride did you
leave with knowing that you're representing a whole island of people.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, I mean, you know, it's you know, you take
private everything when when you know they mentioned your name,
you go into the States and you're from a small
island that you know that a lot of a lot
of kids don't get the opportunity to go to the
States and play baseball. Obviously, I was not the first
guy that that that left the island to go play,
but I was one of the first ones that that

(08:12):
really stand out and and and and brought the name
of Curas out on the map when you know, when
I made it to the World Series in ninety six,
so you know, right there everybody started recognized, you know,
the name curus out and and and people was like,
where's that at? Where's that? Because we were more under
the Netherlands and Tillies and you know, the name won't
pop up much. So now it's you know, we move

(08:33):
away from the Analys Andtillies. Now it's the name is
Curresause and now people more know about it. But you know,
since then, you know, I start growing and you know,
we start seeing a lot of kids. You know, I
want to do the same thing you do. And and
then you know, now you know, for population wise, you know,
we we probably have the most most major most most

(08:57):
Major League Baseball player as population wise, you know, more
than Dominican Republic. You know, Dominican probably have I don't know,
one hundred million people. But for the population that we
have on the island, we got more major le. I
love it.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
What did that do for your family financially?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I didn't grow up, you know, in the bas situation.
My dad, my dad had a great job. You know,
we you know, we we didn't grow up, you know,
hurting him on a lot of stuff. But you know
we weren't rich. But you know, I didn't get a
big signing bonus. You know, I just took what what
they gave me because this is what I wanted to chase.

(09:34):
And I think my dad was a big part of
it because he, you know, when you find out somebody
else that I signed the same time have more money
than I got, he was pissed about it. So you
know he was like, well, now we're going to put
some work in and we're going to make that happen.
And you know, he was a big, big part of
my career earlier and durings the end. And you know,

(09:56):
he never he never stopped working.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
With How do you guys navigate kind of not being
taken advantage of in those situations because you know your father,
your dad's never been there. If you're you're a teenager,
like you said, you saw someone in a similar situation
get more money, how do you guys, make sure you
kind of do the best you can.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
To get what you need and move forward the right way.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I just work and just work, like I say my dad,
that was like, hey, we're going to put the work
to get you there, and you know the focus in.
You know you're going to make a lot of mistakes.
You know, obviously, you know this game is a game
of failure. You're gonna fail more than you're going to succeed.
So just know how to handle the failure. That's I
think that's the most important thing of you know, anybody's career,

(10:37):
how to handle the failure. If you if you know
how to handle failure, you're going to be all right.
But if you don't know, you're going to keep digging
yourself deeper and deeper and you're not going to come
out of it. So I think those are things that
you know, we work on. I mean, obviously, everybody have
the talent, everybody have the physicality, some have more than other.

(10:58):
But you know, if you work at it, you you
know you're going to be at the top. But the
most thing is more mental than anything. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
When you hear greats like Willie May's and Roberto Clemente
and here that those are the only two outfielders that
have more gold gloves than you. When you kind of
sit back and look at what you accomplished, Like, do
you allow yourself to kind of patch yourself on the
back because you were a bad motherfucker out there at
the moment. In the moment, you can't really do it.
But when you sit back now and look and see

(11:26):
what you accomplished.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, I'm proud of I took a lot of proud
on my defense. I you know, I wanted to be
the beast for real, every time when a stamp on
the field, I was going to be the best, and
you know I was going to do something to help
my team win. So I think I carry myself very high.
One wanted to be the beast centerfielder. I was never
going to be Willie Mace. I was never going to
be robertic g Man. I'm never going to be King Griffy,

(11:48):
you know. So, uh, those guys are their own. Probably
nobody's going to be me so yourself, you know what
I mean. So everybody have to be the South. So
sometimes it's so fair when people can compare you to
other people. So you know, it's like nobody gonna compare
you to Michael Jordans, you know what I mean. So
it's only going to be one Michael Jordan's. So you

(12:08):
might have the same things of what they do, but
you're not. You know, it's it's kind of not fair
to to compare. But you know it the numbers, you know,
you know, not a lot of people doing it. It's
it's it's stand out. You know. Obviously, Wheeling maz is
one of the greatest baseball players, that player America. Robertical
Mint is an icon baseball player. So and Griffy to

(12:32):
Griffy to you know, he's just who he is. So
it's it's good to be in that that that group,
and you know, just people recognize.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
That your highlight reel on the defense side is incredible.
Where did those instincts on the defensive side come from?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
It's a good question because you know, you just the
instinct is just trying to learn, guys. I'm trying to
learn my my teammates, my players, my pitchers, who's who's hitting?
If you hitting, you know, I watch what you do,
and I'm just trying to put myself in the right
position and use my instinct. What I'm thinking that you're
going to do. So those are things that do. But

(13:09):
all that starting practice. You know, I go and practice,
I watch, I watch practice. I go out there and
I shag fly balls for like fifteen minutes before the game.
You know, you know, just like anything. You know, you
get warm up, warming up, shooting. You guys go out
there and and shoot around for twenty thirty minutes, so
you work on why you want to work that day
so when you go to the game it will be

(13:29):
more easy. So you know, every every preparation start, you know,
at three thirty. You know, we have a seven o'clock game.
Everything start at three thirty. You start doing all your routines,
do all the stuff you ever do. If you need
to hit, you go on the field. You need to
extra ground balls, you know, you go out there and
shag for fifteen minutes. You hit, and then you go
in and be ready when you shag. You know, you
shag and all laughing right all the time, so you

(13:51):
get on your legs ready. So when the game is
you only watch one ball, so you know all you
have to do is just go get that ball. So
I think that's all the instincts of the game. Start
for me.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Talk to me about your outfield coach, Jim Beachman, how
impactful he was for you he did.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
I mean, I mean I had so many before Beaching.
Beaching was in in the big leagues. But I had
Gary Pattis that was one of the baddest center fielder
in the game that played with with Ani Angels. He
won probably six go Glove too as a center fielder.
So everything started from the mine league. He was our
minor league groving proto coordinators. So he was always around

(14:29):
working with me. You know, tell me the right things,
tell you what to look for because he did it before.
And I think, what we're missing a lot, you know,
not to go a different direction. We're missing a lot
that in the minor league. We don't have guys that
that did it on the high state stage to to
teach these kids where where to be at and what
to look for or what to do. So I had

(14:51):
those all day. I had Whey Starter at a coach
in the MYN League. I mean, he get really started
to come out there and he's old Rent Rover and
he's like, oh man, this guy is the great. So
for him to talk to you, and and and and
you know, tell you stuff, what to look for, what
to do, and stuff like that is awesome. But then
when they got to the big leagues, Beach helping a

(15:11):
lot about you know, work with me. I mean he
you know, he put me always in the right position
to to to be successful. So I carry that on
and I help other people on my size to to
be on the right side to make plays. Love that.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
What is one attribute you feel it's needed to be
a great outfielder?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Just work at it, or I think work. You know,
obviously you have to have some kind of talent. You
gotta you know, you gotta know how to go catch
flight balls and stuff like that. But just work, you
know what I mean, if you're some kind of athlete,
I can put you out there and put you in
the right spot to be to teach you. So it's
just work at it.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
We talked to uh David Justice yesterday about the art
of climbing the wall and he said he had no idea.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
We talked about Bo Jackson and Ken Griffy.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Someone is yourself. What is the art of being able
to climb the wall and go up there and rob.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
A home run? And I think just instincts just wanted
to catch the ball. I think that's how you know
those those space happen. You don't plan stuff because you
just don't know where it's going to go. So you
just always chasing, you know what I mean, just chasing
you see it and it's just like I got it,
and then you just down on your wall or you

(16:24):
jump up the wall and you make the play. Don't
see an art of it. It's just it's it's beautiful.
It's beautif. It's beautiful when you do it. Get it,
but just go get it. That's that's that's the money
st Do.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
You have one rob that that stands out to you?
Your your favorite something you got?

Speaker 3 (16:39):
I mean I played Sholler so much so I didn't
get a chance to go out to the wall much,
but I did. I robbed berry Bones one time. It's
one guy I used to rob all the time with
the mass I phone, so he used to kill us
and I always always set him up and go get it.
So it's just, you know it, it's so many I

(17:01):
can't I mean, I really can think of you know,
I have some great plays, plays that I made to
finish games, you know, for the pitch to get shut
out so it's a lot. Man, It's so it's so many.
It's just you know, you don't you don't think about him.
It's just like when it pop up sometimes on social media.
You see it and then stuff and that, then you

(17:21):
like remember, it's like, oh, that was a good play.
I remember that game.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
So does your son understand how good his dad was?
Or you just dad to him?

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I'm just coaching. He called the coach coach. He called
me coach because I always talk with him all the
time on the phone. I mean after the game or
or whatever. He's on the West Coast, so I always
I always hit him up in the morning. It's like,
I was your day, you know, how you feel, what
you did or whatever. But he called me coach. You know,
you see the art words.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
You know. He think, he thinks, he thinks he's going
to be better. So I let him keep thinking that.
But I'm very proud of me. He's a really good
defensive player, really good, really good defense. I'm I'm I
can see something, but it's a long way.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I love I Love the nineteen ninety six, a nineteen
year old hit three forty five and three home runs
in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
It's a young boy right there.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, young thundercat. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
New York is different too. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
I mean that's a long story, man. I mean I
started that year in a ball and I was kind
of mad, be honest, because you know, they they invite,
they invite this guy that I played with that had
a great year too, to the spin training and I
didn't get invited. So I was pissed, and I told

(18:42):
the guy and I was like, I told the guys.
I was like, I'm gonna be there soon, don't worry
about it. But I was just sucking trash, you know
what I mean. Just I was mad because all I
want to do is go to spin training and get
some major league at bats, you know, like the bats
with my name on it, so I can have in
the minor league so our plays with you know, you
always get good bats. But it was just long, you know,
a ball. I was trying to you know, we're trying

(19:03):
to win a championship over there, and I ended up,
you know, moving from a ball to double A, then
double A to triple A and then on the sudden,
I'm in the big leagues. And I always played center
field and triple A. The Mager came to me, go, hey, Andrew,
you're playing right field today. And I was like, I'm
not playing right field. I'm center field. It's like, well,
Bobby Cox wanted you to play right field. I was like, okay,

(19:24):
all right, so we go play right field. So playing
right field, first ball over my head. I'm like, damn,
I know I'm not a freaking right fielder. But I
threw the ball in and you know, they're moving back
to center field. And then the next day they called
me and say you're going to the big leagues and
I was like, you guys playing I was like, I
didn't think so I was like, no, you guys joking
with me is something. But you know, I got call up.

(19:45):
I ended up going to Philadelphia for my for my
first game, and you know, the Braves knew something that whenever,
you know, they knew that the team had so many
left hand hitters, so they wanted to have a couple
of right handers. And it was just me and Jermaine die.
They had a lot of guys that was hurt, and
David jos was hurt. He blew out his shoulder so

(20:06):
he was not able to play. I think he was
working trying to come to the playoffs, but they shut
him down. So it was just Braves knew what they
were doing, who they were gonna face. Obviously we didn't
end up winning. That was serious, so you know, it
was a great moment for me, you know, to put
the island curisall my man. Nobody knew, you know, this
young kid from Curisou. So you know, the Yankees didn't

(20:30):
know who I was beyond me. They just thought I
was I was just a young kid. And and then
threw some pitches over the playoff that was gonna that
was gonna miss.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
They found out. What's it like?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
You get the call up and you get you and
get in the locker room for the first time, and
you go to your locker and you see your number
with your name on the back and it's the brother
of the big ball club.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
What was that moment like for you?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Be honest with me, I really didn't think nothing, man, Really,
I really didn't think. I was just like just baseball,
just baseball. You know, the moment when you sit back
you're like, Wow, I'm in the big leagues and you're
seeing guys that you out of light. You see guys
that you know you you watch on TV more than anything,
and you're like, okay, this is it. But I really
did not think nothing. I walk into the clubhouse. A

(21:14):
lot of people gave me a lot of trash because
you know, back then, you know the Braves, you have
to wear slacks on the road. I came out with
some golf shorts, and everybody was like, who the hell
is this kid? Think he is so right now? Everybody
started looking at me a different way already, like this
kid think he's too too big, But nobody tell me
the rules. So I got there, and you know, after that,

(21:34):
it was just you know, fun gun, you know, get
going and and and and trying to win, you know,
trying to win a championship. I know, you know, since
I've been playing with the Braves, way before I made
it to the major League, they've been very consistent getting
to the playoffs and win division titles and and winning
World Series or go to the World Series. We just
got them mentality off, Hey, this is what we're doing.

(21:56):
This is what we're going to continue to do from
here on. And and you know, we always grew grew
up as a winner.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
After the performance in the World Series, did you got
to end up winning. What kind of expects did you
feel the expectations or the pressure from the media or
the outside that coming into that next season?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Not really, you know what I mean. With the media,
it's just they as I was too young, they really
did not, you know, they didn't. The media in atlanta's
a little different. I split it like that. The media
done is that we don't have a lot of media.
Like if we was in New York, it would have
been a different story. We were in California, would have
been a different story. But Atlanta, it's just it's only
like two three big, big writers that that you know,

(22:34):
to be in your face, always asking a lot of questions.
So they you know, you get a little breeder down here.
It was not much. I mean they knew, they knew
what kind of what kind of team we are kind
of you know performance. You know, we're trying to do
every every year after year after year. So sometimes they
ride to say, hey, you know, you only got one
more serious, you know what I mean. So it's it's

(22:55):
one of those things that it's hard to win. Who serious,
it's hard to do it. It's hard to win a championship.
You know, everything have to go right, you know a
lot and luck And you know, first of all, yeah,
that's that's very very You have to have luck. Everything
have to bounce your way because if it don't, you're
not gonna you're not gonna win. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I don't think people realize how much obviously skill and
preparation and prepare helps, but you have to have luck.
You got a chance to play with a bunch of
legends in Atlanta. I'm gonna give you some name. Just
give me some first thing to come to mind with
these guys. Fred McGriff, crime dog, Freaky Fred, Freaky Fred.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Give me what's freaky friend?

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Let's freak? You're just quiet? You always see it in
the corner. You don't see him, but he's there, he's there.
But yeah, I mean crime dog. You know, I I
I didn't know a lot of and I watched, even
if it was a right handed I watched a lot
of stuff that he did and and and I tried
to to get do the same thing. So you know, you,

(23:58):
I think I tell a lot of a lot of
kids this all the time. You got to watch. You
gotta watch because you might do something that I might
pick up that I learned from you. Know what I mean.
So you got to watch and willing to learn and
willing to learn every day. So that's why I learned
a lot from Fred Jones. Uh, he might be black

(24:21):
here redneck, but I think he might be black black
red neck. He might be a black red neck.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Sperd David Justice, David Justice.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
David gave me a lot of hell though, But we
we were cool. But he gave him a lot of
hell because I think he knew that I was one
of the guys that was coming up, that that was
going to move him away. And then you know, ninety seven,
they traded him, and I didn't think they were going
to trade. They traded him and Chris gets him to
cleve room. But he did give me a lot of
hell though. But he's my boy though, That's Dave, my boy.

(24:53):
SMOs is one of the best athletes I think I
know that I played with. Be honest with you as
a as as a professional. You can play basketball, you
can play he can play everything. I mean, you name
the sport that dude is doing it.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
When you we talk about smokes Man and Glavin, two
guys told us that they felt like Smolpes was out
of those three the best.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
The best talent, the best talent, the best stuff. You know,
the slider, the velocity, you know, the high performance, like
he performed a high level all the time.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Maddix was Max's That's my next I was gonna say,
Greg Maddix.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Greg Maddix, is he I don't know how you did it.
I really don't know how you did it. He did it,
but I really don't know. I watch him every day,
walk in, he walk out. I'm like, I don't know
where this guy do it. I don't know the guy.
Really don't work out. You don't do nothing, guy, I
don't know. That's what I'm saying. I don't know how

(25:55):
you do it.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
He was just he's the professor. I don't know how
you do.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
He was a surgeon, the professor.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Was he also a prankster? Sheffield said he kind of
joked around.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
He was pretty nasty. Was he a nasty guy? Man?
You don't want to shower next to him?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Feet and everything?

Speaker 3 (26:15):
You know, you don't want. I would tell the story.
Chippers always used white sanitaries and nextually his locker is.
It's a big trade with sanitary so when ice get
there most time he gets the dip. He put the
dip on on the on the sancitary And so because

(26:36):
when Chippard get there, you just dig in and get
a big pole footing socks on this food wipe his
ass with this ship. Yeah, this food is he's wiping
his butt with where the socks and throw him in
there and then Chipper properly and and basically Chip is
the only one that's using these socks. God he he

(27:00):
he nasty. You're a nasty guy.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
That's some ship Shack would do.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Shack was found, bro, there's no limits of the nasty
ship that Shaq would do.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
So he was spit. He would have a big dip
in his mouth and you just get us a lobby
and you throw it. He split it up there and
you think they sing longer that hangout and somebody walk
up right to it. He fouled. Yeah, I'm not telling
you this boy a diabolical gee. Uh. Tom Gavin very quiet,

(27:28):
quiet guy, you know, all by business, great hockey player,
but all by business. He was one of those guys too.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I was like, how's he doing?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
How you doing?

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Man?

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I faced him quite a few times, so I'm like,
how you doing?

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Man?

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I mean the stuff that he had early his careers,
had a little bit with for losity, but later on
I was like all these guys getting outs with eighty
eight miles while.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Fast movement the movement. Yeah, uh, did you go through
any rookie?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I was a tough rookie. Man, I was a tough rookie.
I ain't gonna lie to you about it. You wouldn't have.
But that's how the whole David Jos's things started.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I mean talking about it. Yes, you guys are older now,
but talk to us about it.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
All right. So David join get hurt and he's doing
reap and you know, I get call up. So when
I get on the plane, you know, I take my
jacket out and I go straight asleep. You know, we
have the whole role. So I go say, you know,
straight asleep. You know I don't you know, nineteen I
didn't drink much, so I'll just go straight to sleep.

(28:38):
So he stopped going the road and I get you know,
I'm I'm in front of the boss. I get on
the boss. I get on the plane first. So I
go to the seat that I always sit on for
you know, two weeks now, watch by two weeks he go, rookie,
you need to get up. I was like, he said,
you need to get up. It's my seat. I look around.

(29:00):
I say, I don't see your name. I said, I
don't see your name of it. So the whole hell
started right there. He wanted to fucking beat my ass.
He didn't want to do it, so we go get TP.
Terry Panther was a little older guy. TP. Come. I say, Andrew,
you need to get out. That's David seat man. I say, Tpa,

(29:22):
I don't see his name, and I'm sleepy. So I
went to sleep. So I went to sleep. They didn't.
They didn't master When we get up, I can see
they pissed off, but you know, I'm like, I don't
care whatever. We go. We go, we we land in Miami.
We go to hotel. We late. We landed late. We
went to Miami. I'm calling for my bag in the

(29:43):
morning because I'm not calling when I get it. I'm
going to sleep. So I called my back in the morning.
You already call your backup. I was like, what I said,
you already call your backup. I was like, okay, I
look at the list. You know that everybody had an
alien name, right Alia's name. So I was like, call
somebody to say I think I called. They called Eddie

(30:04):
or Harvey Lopez was David. David he said so and
so I look, I was like, he's down right, So
I look at it. I walked away for the mates,
wait for the maid to go clean the room, open
the door. I walk in. I grab my back. He
fucking lost it. He lost it. They really wanted to

(30:26):
fight me in the clubhouse. So then those starts starting.
They start fucking with me. They start putting hot stuff
in my pants, fucking put stuff in my shoes, cut
my pants. I mean, they they, I mean, they really
went in hard. So I didn't care, you know, I mean,
you just you know, they always say, you know, rookies

(30:47):
get picked on, so I really didn't. You know, I
enjoy it. I mean, you know, you you're a tough mug.
So I didn't care. Then that kind of bothered them
more because I didn't care, So, you know, I was like,
it's cool. But you know, after that, everything was cool.
After you know, you know, we got to the playoff
because now it's more business than anything, so you know,

(31:10):
you had your fair. It was not it was not
it was not fun, but it's part of it. It's
part of it.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I like that you stood on your ship like, fuck.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
This be I I'm not I'm not telling your story. Man.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
A might have pissed them off, but I think at
the point they had to respect it.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Though probably probably they were like this guy, this guy
is real.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
You got to respect it.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Seven seasons with thirty home runs plus you played in
a pd era, although you were never linked to that.
Was there ever questions about obviously you're performing at one
of the best in the.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
World at this time.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Where there ever links or rumors about you and PDS
that you heard of?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
No, I mean you you we started getting tasted it.
I think in two thousand and three. I think that
was the time that they kind of did it like
a random to see what percentage will be if they're
going to make him in the tory or not not
doing it. And I think I think, you know, guys

(32:12):
were failing it, so the percentage was very high. In
the ninety four they start doing you know, like the
whole thing. You know, you see guys that did it,
you see guys that say they did it, You see
guys that did it. Then then do nothing, you know,
they they still was still was still wasn't good. So
you know, obviously it helped, you can see the help,

(32:35):
but you still got to you still have to have
the talent. You still have to go out there and play,
you know. I mean, you know, everybody linked with a
lot of people on it, you know. You know, I
watch sometimes that Territory with Maguire, you know, when he
was saying, you know, I bought this on on you know,
over the counter, so obviously it was kind of legal,

(32:55):
I guess, you know what I mean. So after that,
things start getting you know, more people start getting there.
I think the steroids thing is more ego than anything,
you know. I think guys that that being on on
top of the game and and some of the guys
that you know been heard when to want to jump
up and and and get little boos to be back
at the level that they were. I think that's what

(33:16):
this whole PD and and and and steroids go on about.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Though you were one of two at the time, Jordan
guys with with with Jeter. What was it like and
how did that deal come about?

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Well, I mean, it's it's it was. It was kind
of it was tough because I know well, uh, world West,
world wide West. Yeah, he was the one that that
set up the whole thing. Yeah, that's my boy, man,
Uncle West, Uncle West. He set up the whole thing.
And you know, we go to I'm playing in Chicago

(33:54):
the Cups, and the next the next Sunday, and then
one day and Tuesday is the All Star game. And
he said, hey, come meet me here at this at
this location. And I walk in there and I walk
in and MJ was there. And so I met MJ
before in places like clubs and stuff like that that

(34:14):
we walked through, but never sit down and and and
and talk with him. So that's why, you know, all
the whole thing started. And you know, since then, I've
been I've been with with him.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
You still get the boxes.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
I still get the boxes, not like it used to,
not like it used to. I get half of the boxes.
I get half the box. I'm still happy. I'm getting
boxed about half of the boxes. But it's kind of
overwhelmed though. It's a overman, big time. I mean, the
stuff that's saying you is it's crazy. It's Jordan's It's
too much. It's too much. I mean, I say, now,

(34:48):
back then, I was like yeah, I keeping and saying,
but now it's like, why don't want to put all
this stuff right? You know. So it's always been you know,
you know, being one of the first ones that that
do it with Jeter was it was good and Jitter
was in the American League, it was in the National League.
So you know, after that, everybody start getting on and
then you know, he stopped building the brand of the

(35:09):
baseball part bigger and we start getting a lot of
other guys.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
What was that first you sitting down and having that
first real conversation with Mike and did he present it
to West present?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
And how did the work?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Well? West presented? And you know, we start talking and
I say, man, you know I always you know, I
wear twenty three in the Mior League my whole career
because Michael Jordan really I love that. You know, every
time I could have getten on the twenty three, it
was getting it. I didn't get twenty three in Atlanta
because they've adjusted that. So every time you know what
I mean, Yeah, I can't walk in and say, David,

(35:41):
I want you to make me a ship.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
But you know we're about we're about to get you.
We're about to get you out of it. Give me
your ship, bro.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
So they gave me twenty five. And you know, since
that had been twenty five for a while with it,
you know, all my career. So you know, I wear
twenty three because him, and you know, even if you
play baseball, you want to be like Michael Jordan's. You know,
I played basketball at school. I want to be like
Michael Jordan's. So and you know, that's how it started.

(36:10):
But the comfy ship was there, and you know, I
didn't know, you know, I see his hands down. I
didn't know what he's doing. He was getting a manicure
underneath the unerneath the table while you were talking, while
we were talking business, he had his helot to day
say I gotta go home. It's like you go, you're
going to a motorcycle. This guy is, he's a freak.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I mean, I'm sure you know you you heard the
documentary of him and all the stuff. What made him
drive that he always loved the game of baseball. You know,
he always was a big baseball fan. You know, he
grew up playing it. I mean, obviously, if everybody you
know basically played baseball at some point of their life,
so you know, he always was a love of it.

(36:57):
You know, I was a little a little a little
surprised how quick he got in a little bit though.
I mean, gonna like you, how quick. But then they
start throwing the breaking pitch and then it was like, okay,
there's a different story. And then you know that's how
Michael Jordan is. He work on stuff. So now he's
gonna sit seem breaking pitch. So he's going to hit

(37:18):
a thousand breakupitch and he's gonna make adjustment because great
athletes make adjustment quick than others. So that's what he did.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
But why can he not do you know nothing successful?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
You played for the legendary Bobby Cox, all time leader
and injections. I love to hear that. I didn't know
that to I was going over there. But you spoke
to the importance of him in your life. Speak to
what kind of relationship you guys have. I mean, he's
like my second dad, man.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
You know, I think since I left Currous out, you know,
my dad always been there. You know, I always start
with but I think I spend more time with Bobby
cos then I was and my whole career than I
spent with my dad, you know. So you know he
was my second and that and you know I thank
him so much to give me the opportunity. He believed

(38:04):
in me. So you know, when your dad believe in you,
you never want to feel you you know what I mean.
So that's why I feel about Bobby. Guys. I mean,
you know, we have your back all the time. We
we had. You know, we have our discussion, we have
an argument before, we yell at each other before, and
I think that that made us more more closer than
than than than ever. So you know, I thank him

(38:29):
every time, you know, I mean everybody, every time I
talk about my career. You know, Bobby is a big,
big part of him. With all the other coaches that
I had in my career, but he was, you know,
one of the guys that I was like, you know,
he he actually believed in me and give me the
opportunity and I took advantage of it.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
He once pulled you from a game mid inning after
you let a fly ball pass.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I'm gonna show you the clip real quick.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Let him pass it drop in front of me.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
See you remember the play?

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, oh ship, Damn.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
I should have catched the ball.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Look, he's already he's pissed.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
He's probably like, what the fuck Andy doing? Go get it?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
So talking through this, he ends up pulling you mid
any what is What does he say when you're getting
the dugout? O?

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Man? Man, that's there's a lot of efforts going go
to that thing we're playing. We're playing and you know
that's that's right there. At that point, it basically kind of,
you know, changed everything for me a little bit. I'm
not gonna lie to you know. I mean, I was
doing what I do always, you know, good great defender,

(39:51):
great defender. That that inning the inding before I strike
out against Kerry Wood with people on base. So I
was pissed. So I carried that to the to the
to the defense and I kind of lost my focus
a little bit. And Lance Johnson used a big bat,
so when he swing, it feels like, you know, it's

(40:13):
gonna jump. So he took a big swing, but I didn't,
you know, my focus was there, so I didn't see
him hit on the end of the back so he blewpan.
So right now I look at it, I said, I
will be yelling myself too, by the way, but at
that moment, I didn't think, so I just caught the
ball and throw it in and Bobby yanked me. And
I was like, I'm standing there. I'm looking back and

(40:36):
I see, you know, Gerald Williams that passed passed probably
three three years two years ago, A good friend of mine.
He's running at me, and I was like, you go.
I was like, okay, so I'm going in. I'm getting there.
I'm walking. He go get your ass over there, go
down here. So we go down there. He started yelling.

(40:59):
I'm yelling him. I was like, I didn't fucking know
I was doing. I said, sorry, what the fuck you
want me to do? You say you fucking talk? You
me fucking up all the time. You know, he was
yelling at me. I mean he was yelling. I was like,
you motherfucker and ship I was like, man, I said,
fuck you, I'm the best fucking player you got on
the fucking team. And he's like. We were going back
and forth. So I'll go in you know, the meet

(41:24):
again and ask me what happened. I told him what
it is. And you know, they say, what you think.
Bobby said, you might not play again? I say, I
don't know. You know, he's the manager he's decisions, but
probably wouldn't never, not anybody else trust me. He comes
to the say the first man, he's probably gonna write
the name out, it's my name, figure out where I'm

(41:44):
gonna hit. But I'm in the lineup. I'm in there.
You know, I think that point of my career really
to find me off. You know, the focusing of you know,
your bad is over defense is never you know what
I mean. So I think that that make a big
difference of him.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Two thousand and four off season, you got a chance
to work with Willie Mays on the hitting side. What
did h what kind of tip did he give you?
Or what were we able to take away from that?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Well, I mean I didn't work with him. I met
with him and we talked in oh four when we
was in San Francisco. We talked and you know, he
you know, he told me some stuff. I think that
year I was you know, it wasn't having one of
my greade years. You know, I don't know when I
many not watch my numbers. I didn't have that consistencies
that I was looking for offensively, So we you know,

(42:36):
we talked in San Francisco, and you know after that,
when the season was over, because at that moment, me
and Terry Pendalton was together and Terry Penalt was our
hitting coach, and we talked with Willie Mays and really
was telling me some stuff and I capp it. And
when the off season, I just build a batting cage

(42:59):
at the house and me and Terry pan Done went
straight in the KH and offseason and trying to perfract
what we were looking for and that we talked with
Really Mays about and end up working in five and
I ended up hitting fifty one home runs. But you know,
like I say, every time you know somebody a legend

(43:19):
or anybody, don't have to be somebody that you see
is doing something good. You can take something from them.
You have to take it. You know.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Terry Penleton told the story where he said he saw
Willie Mays come up to you and Willy told you
he was the best you he'd ever seen.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Any truth to that.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, he did, he did it, but he did it
and in this way that you know, you say, you're
almost as close good as me. You know, he said
you're the best. He said, you're almost You're almost as
good at me. So you know, when somebody like, really,
Mays Man, I think, you know, we missed those legends
of the game so much being around the stadium every
time when we go to to to play. You know,

(44:00):
you know San Francisco, you know, you name it. You
know all these other other teams, like even New York.
You go to New York, you will see Ray Jackson
around and all these people. You miss seing these guys
talk with him about baseball because at the end of
the day, all you want to do is talk baseball,
you know. You know, I I talk with Hank a
bunch of times. You know, sometimes when I was struggling,

(44:23):
Bobby was like, hey, go up there and talk with Hank.
You know, just when you got there, you really don't
talk baseball. You would just ask you about how's your family,
you know, talk about life, you know, tell you know,
talk about you know, you need to take care and
make sure you take care of your family, make sure
you take care of your kids. You know, focus on
this focus and that because you know you have the talent.
He just wanted to take you away to get your
mind off the game a little bit and and and

(44:45):
talk something else. So you know, I always was honored
to see all these guys around and and and Nick
picked their mind and and and in their career, and
the legacy the life off the field on the field.
So it's always great. And you know, I think we're
missing that now a lot in our sport. You know,

(45:05):
a lot of the the organization don't keep a lot
of the you know, the legends, the legends of the
game around. No more so it's it's changing a little bit.
But you know some teams does Yeah, you got to.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
You played for four more teams before you finish your career.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
You got a chance to play for Ozzie Gain. I
know he's a little crazy. I heard you enjoyed him.
You got any stories of Ozzie.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Ozzi is one of the wildest guys. Actually, I played
with Ozzie in winter Ball in Venezuela in ninety six. Wow,
So I've been knowing Ozzie for a long time. You know,
the stories, the wildness, He don't care, he can say whatever.
I think. Why he's not in the game as a
manager because you speak the true or you speak why

(45:53):
do you feel like it too much?

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Too too real?

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Too real? Sometimes you have to kind of keep things
in for yourself. You got to know where it is.
But he's he's too real, he said, what do you
want to say? But he's a great man. He loved
the game. You know, I learned a lot from him.
He helped me a lot. I think in ninety six
when I'm when when we're playing winter Ball together, I

(46:17):
was tired. I was thinking, you want to want to
be there? I just don't done playing in the World Series.
The Braves didn't think I was going to be in
the World Series. So we made a deal that I'm
gonna go to winter Ball and play baseball in Venezuela
for for two months. So I went there. I didn't
want to be there. You know, we hang out partying.
I don't want to play. So he came out and say, hey, Andrew,

(46:38):
if you don't want to play, you go home. I said,
I am going home. So I went home. And you know,
then three years later, I'm playing with him, you know,
here in Atlanta. So you know, play with him Atlanta.
You know, he helped He helped us a lot in
ninety in ninety nine to to get to the World
Series versus the mat I mean versus the Yankees again,

(47:01):
and then play with him, and I think ten No.
Eleven and eleven and twelve Yankees ten. I played with
him as a manager. You know, he I call him
and say, hey, you're gonna You're gonna give me a
chance to play out here. You go, Well, if you
come in shape, you play. I say, all right, So

(47:25):
again I went. I went and worked out and got
in great shape. I came to spring training. He said, no,
you're not gonna play.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Fucked.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
I was like, I was like, fuck up. So all
I didn't spend training is play golf. You know, I
I really probably in that spring training with him, I
probably had like maybe twenty at bats. Every day I
walk in. My name is not line up. I go
play golf. After I get DOWNE practice. So I think,

(47:52):
right now, right there, the the the passion on playing
golf kind of start kicking in, and I think I
just from there on I pick it up. But you know,
I had a great time there. You know I had
a great role. You know, I was platuning d H
and play some outfield with remarks and you know I
was doing good. You know, you say, and one rules

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that he have and you know this is before you know,
everybody starts sending the lineup down from from the office.
You say, if you if you hot, you're playing it.
If you call you out of the you're on the bench.
So you know that's what the mentality. And you know
I got a chance to play for you know, quite
quite a time.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
I'll give you some outfielders, just give me. First thing
to come in to mind when I mentioned their name.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Tony gwyn one of the greatest, greatest hit it all
all time, you know, know how to put the ball
in play. He might have been one of the toughest
guy for me to defense because I you know, I
couldn't reading much what he was gonna do. If you're
gonna slap off, he's gonna pull it. It was just
he was one of those ones that I couldn't defense.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Ye interesting, King Griffyr one.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Of the best swing in the game, one of one
of the all around baseball player, could have do everything.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Barry Bonds the.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Best baseball player that I see, the best baseball player
that played this game that I see. You know, it's
a lot of guys before that play that I didn't see.
I really, you know, I only see Hank Karen highlights.
I see his numbers. His numbers are ridiculous. I see

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Willie Mays highlights I never see with my own eyes. Well,
the guy I see with my own ice play that
I can tell you if you ask me and I,
who's the best baseball player of all time? Is Barry Bonds.
I play against each in Japan in some All Star game.
I knew of him, I knew what kind of player
he was, but you know, when he came here, he
really went on a different level of the game. You know,

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I play with him in in New York. Too unique player,
very unique player.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Jim Edmonds good defense editor, good good defense, good defense,
great great bad should be in the Hall of Fame,
to be honest, men, Tory Hunter not a great center fielder,
you know, should be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Too great number. I mean, there's so many guys. You know,
it's kind of cursed for those guys that play in
center field because you know, if you if you look back,
it's not that many center fields in the Hall of Fame,
And because the numbers that the guys that did it
is so outrageous that you know, if you even be
half of it, it's not good enough, you know what

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I mean. So it's it's high. So he's he's a
Hall of Fame in my book for me for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Don't be honest, give me your top five outfielder defensive
outfielders of all time?

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Wow, good question, man, that I see or or that
I know of, because then if you if you see,
you can go with a lot of different name. I mean,
you know, you see guys that like Duke Snyder's really mays.
I mean I did not see with my eyes, but
it's you know that's like my my, my my top,

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My top was right now. If I can take up
my head right now, is Ken Griffy, Tory Hunter, Jim Happens,
Kenny Lofton. Those are the guys that I see, and
I'll be like, yeah, those are my top guys. But
if you want to go all time, you got you know,
like I said, you have really mazed Duke Snyders, You
got Dick Allen that just going in the Hall of

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Fame now, he was very good, fast feeling. You got
so many guys, So it's it's it's it's it's tough
to pick. But if my eyes that I can tell
you right now, those the names that I tell you, can.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
You still hit one hundred millar foul fastball today.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Absolutely not, But you gave me about two weeks. I
probably will. You know what I mean. The thing is
though your eyes and and your hands. It's all timing.
You know, you gave me, you gave me a week.
I'm gonna touch it. I'm not gonna tell you him
I had it out, but I'm gonna touch it. But
you know it takes time. You know, you know, you
you go out there. You know we do home runs,

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home run derbys for events all the time. You know,
when you get on that field, you put that uniform on,
that thing is kicking in. Yeah, you know what I mean.
It's just like you you know, you get on the court.
You know, even if you retire a long time ago,
you get in the court, your mind is selling by
your body mind not your mind is Staalue. I'm there,

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but your body is not.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
We asked four people that, and three of you guys
said no. The only person said absolutely, be easy was Barry.
Barry said, it's like.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Riding the bike.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
It's just here he's gonna throw and he's like, I'm
gonna replace the bat or the mint with the bat.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Right? Did you just hear what one. He is the
best baseball player I see play the game.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
When you first step up to the man, what's going
through your mind? Excuse me, to the plate? What's going
through your mind? What are you looking for?

Speaker 3 (53:04):
I'm just trying to hit the ball right back at him. Okay,
that's my mind zone, that's my tunnel. You know. If
I if I catch it right, you know, I might
kill you. But if I get you a little earlier,
put in left field. If I get you a little late,
I go right field. But my mind is right. If
the boss coming from there, this was I'm going to
go for.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
How did you get out of slumps? Were you a
superstitious guy or any rituals you had.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
To get I was not really a superstition guy. I
you know, when you say you have routines, it can
be superstitious. But I just had little routines that I do.
You know, I make sure I used the bathroom before
I go to the game, before I play, you know,
I do do you know, do my own stuff, like
you know, my little routines, you know, before before I

(53:48):
go out and do some soft tosts whatever, nothing crazy,
nothing crazy. To be honest with you, I put my
socks always might rice another.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
I'm left first over time, and even shoes.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Yeah, I goes, I go shoes right first. I never
put left.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I left first.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Yeah, so you might think that superstitious, right, it's funny. Oh,
it's just a team's right.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I don't know what the fuck it is even to
this day.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Like if I'm in a hurry and I still can't
put my right slide on first, I have to flip
the left one over, put the left slide on first.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
I don't know what what the deal I have.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
I do everything right first, and then I go left.
I tie this one first, I go to this one.
So even when I put my first leg in first,
like first leg in, it's right left.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I love that, all right, man, quick hitters, we're at
the end of the show. First thing to come to mind.
Let us know the smartest picture you ever faced.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
I play against in my face him probably three times
maybe with the Dodgers and San Diego is Maddox. He's smart.
He's smart. It's very smart. You know. I face a
lot of guys face guys like Pedro that is trying
to blow it by you smart pictures, but guys that
really think why you're thinking it's maddis I love it?

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Best stuff? Who had the best stuff.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Some of the guys that don't even have good stuff
have good stuff. Man ain't right when you're not swinging
that back good everybody have good stuff. But let me
tell you, though, I I I gave a lot of respect.
I mean not respect because I faced him, I got
hit of him. But Kevin Brown was very nasty. I
mean he was a tough guy for us. He was

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in the same division. You know, he beat us with
the Martins not go to the World Series in ninety seven.
He beat us with the with the San Diego Padres.
For us not to go to the World Series, we
could have had some good World Series run, be honest
with you, but this food was so good that he
stuff was nasty.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Worst park, worst MLB park.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Worst MLB park was j r K. Yeah, yeah it was,
but we didn't play much. But when the Expos moved
to the Montreal moved to I love. A lot of
people might say Montreal Stadium was bad. I love that stadium.
Actually I love the city, be honest with me, more

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than I love the stadium. But I loved I loved
that place. I think in DC, the old old JFK
was very, very bad.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Craziest clubhouse story you can share.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Oh man, I just told the story not long ago
to some of the exactives at the had the braves
if you skill brought a freaking kangaroo in a diaper
to the clubhouse. Yes, we were like, he was like,
I have kangaroo. I was like, now you see the pictures.
He showed a picture and saying maybe he wasn't insure say,

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he said, wait till you go to Seattle. I'm gonna
bring the kangaroo to the clubhouse. This food, bring the
kangaroo to the clubhouse in diaper.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Did he do any tricks or anything?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
I was like, he was like, I don't know, I
ain't gonna mess with this thing. I'm going I'm going
to do some work over here.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
And I think kangaroos fuck people up on the internet.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
It was probably like like this. I think it still
was a baby behind you.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Kangaroo was crazy and it.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Was the only one and yeah, yeah, yeah, a couple
of them. Yeah, ain't somebody more story about at us? Yeah,
that's that's the you know, the crazy one PG.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
That's that's the above board, Yeah, bench clearing brawl.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Who were three players you played with during your career
that you're gonna make sure you have on your side?

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Oh man, first one is Andres Galarraga.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Big Fella, the Big, the big Cat, the big.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
I'm telling you I missed those times. Man. We don't
see brothering more, but I missed. I missed the fireness
of this. I mean this guy, you throw close to him,
he looking at you, and you give him like. He goes,
let's go. Opening day. I think it's ninety eight. I
think against the Dodgers it was opening their second day

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and drive for pitch, train driver Smoke big Cat. First pitch,
Big Cat, look at him, he's tripping. Dow him. Go
to the base. Big Cat's like, wow, it ain't do nothing.
You go to first base, Big Cat trying to take
somebody out of second base. You know they die. Maybe
like two months later, we're playing Dodgers in Atlanta day game.

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Driyfle was nasty by the way too. He goes one
through three punches. He punched the first three guys. Everybody
go sit down, naxt to bat Big Cat leader up,
he's batting. Four were always standing on the lion saying,
if this food hit him, we're going in man first
pitch boom. If Big Cat had to hit him, he

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probably would have break his face. If you get a chance,
if you can find that clip, look it up. He's
big cat. Fish was like this bag, I ain't gonna
like a double a double whopper. East Face was like
this big He's swung on him. He missing and grabbing.
He kind of tumble on it. By the time he
got done, that guy was never the same. I think

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his career kind of went downhill from there on.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I love it so Big Cat. Who's two more?

Speaker 3 (59:17):
I would take Bobby Bonina, okay, and then I would
like to have Brian Jordan.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I just seen bar George yesterday.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Yeah, he's got that football mentality and kind of you know,
it can click, it can go different real quick, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Greatest player in your opinion of all time, Barry Bones,
best player in the league right now.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
From a pure talent standpoint.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
It's so many I have to pick talent wise right
now at this moment. Doing it consistent, I have to
say judge for that tallerness that he is to be
so consistent and to do it on the regular basis,
it's tough. You know. You you see a lot of
baseball players. They're all like six one six dude, the

(01:00:02):
highest maybe six four. But this guy, this guy is
this guy is like six seven. So for him to
do it on the high level, it's very you know, obviously,
you have you know, the the Kunas, you have the
you know, the mookies. You got Otani that that actually,
be honest with you, tiny can play outfield with the best.

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I see this kid when he was eighteen years old
in Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
He was special, incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
I played two years in Japan. I see him and
I was like, this kid is special. Obviously I didn't
think he was going to be that hitter that he
is now. But when I saw him, he was special.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
One guess you could see on all the smoke. We
like crazy. You gotta line to Ozzie will take it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Oh yeah, hell yeah, I gave you his number. You can. Oh,
he ain't gonna be afraid.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
We don't want to be fair.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Come talking ship.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Yeah, he afraid he won. Barry did this already. He
did Verry Okay. Yeah, in Chicago's in Chicago trip. It's
a good trip. Yeah, I like Chicago. Me too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Well, Andrew Man, I appreciate your time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Thank you, thank you for your greatness on and off
the field. Best of luck to your son and and
everything you guys have going on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Man, thank you. That's a wrap, Andrew Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
You can catch us and all the Snow productions YouTube
and the Draft Kings Network.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Will see y'all next week.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Mm hmmm, mm hmmm, mm hmmm mm hmmm.