David Banner brought decades of industry knowledge to the All The Smoke studio, and what he shared will blow your mind. The Mississippi icon opens up about his journey from homeless beat-maker to Grammy-winning producer, working with legends like Erykah Badu, Jill Scott, and OutKast.
From strip club anthems to Hollywood scripts, Banner breaks down how he's continually pushed boundaries in music, film, and culture. Plus: candid thoughts on Pimp C, Lil Wayne, T.I., and the current state of Southern rap.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back, all the smoke, l a brother Nadale ready
to be exact nic See, I like your floral pad.
We're contrasting a little bit today. You're with the florals
with the tired eyes. He's with the army fatigue. Man,
this is long overdue, but like you said, it's always time.
It's always the right timing. Our guy Gino had picked
you up today. Yeah, and you guys had a brief
(00:20):
conversation about you just being ready to get up out
of here. Overall, first of all, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Dave Man, thank you, ah Man, my brother thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Right would talk to us about the root of your
guys conversation?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, can I say something before we start?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Man, I say you should have let him do this?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Do that.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I do want to say something man. It's very important
to me.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I try to make sure that we show proper respect
for each other because in our culture, when we have
problems with people, we loud.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Then when we have.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
True respect and admiration for each other, we don't say
anything or we whisper. You understand what I'm saying. Like, Bro,
you all have done something in sports man and have
given our coaching people from our coach who really from
it a voice in a way that's so unapologetic, bro,
but so needed, you know. And to a certain degree,
some people and we don't have to call no names,
(01:19):
have warped it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Y'all do what y'all do, Bro, but it has a
certain level of honor, has a certain level of respect,
bro like, and I'm so so so so can I say,
fucking y'all, I'm so fucking proud of y'all, dude, and
as a man, Bro, I want y'all to know that
bro and y'all both have done it in different ways, man,
And so for you all to give other people jobs,
(01:42):
give other people ways, you know, because a lot of times, Bro,
when we successful, we were just talking about how a
lot of people hower og og. But I'm actually just starting, Bro,
I'm about to do all action films bro. Like, who
would have ever ever thought that? Man? And I'm so
fucking happy, and so I wanted to tell y'all man like,
you both have grown up in front of each other
(02:05):
because I got two questions for both of y'all. I
got a question for each one of y'all that I
think y'all fans would benefit from But you know, man,
just just thank you all for representing the culture and
then represent those of us who are hot heads. Like Bro,
it took me, took me almost thirty years. Bro, that
(02:25):
David bannershit didn't come from rapping.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I wanted to ask you that because I mean, obviously
a fan of your music early on, not really knowing
you've been getting a chance to know you over the
last handful of years. Your energy and your positivity is different.
When did that shift? And obviously you brought it up.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, I'll answer your question if you answer mine first. Bro,
something Bro, something something. I always wanted to ask you
this and it sort of fucked up. Then I'm gonna
ask you this on camera. But Bro, something something happened
to you that changed your bro in my life, in life,
it's something that something happened, Bro, and it to a
(03:02):
certain degree. Bro, I'm just seeing you get it back.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Took your happiness away? Bro, Like what happened to you? Bro? Man,
if you don't mind.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
No, I don't mind. I mean it's just been a journey.
I think my you know, my my journey has been
a very public journey, and I think you know, obviously
growing up with two parents that were into drugs but functioning,
you know, facing racism. I just always had a real
chip on my shoulder and then had to grind to
make the league. So I think there was always maybe
a chip, but also a misconception of who I was
(03:32):
as a person as I continue to grow, you know,
just figuring this life out as we go, you know
what I mean. Obviously fail relationships and kids and and
trouble on and off the court. But I think trips
at the four, Yeah, it wasn't even long. It was
only fifteen minutes. Yeah. No, But again, I think there's
(03:55):
a obviously a reputation's earned, whether good or bad. And
I think some of my reputation has earned, but I
think some of it's almost kind of like mystified, almost
to an urban legend type status. At the end of
the day. I mean, my team knows me, stacks known
me for a long time. Like I'm a real chilled out,
down to earth, regular person who like wears the emotions.
(04:15):
And you know, my life is unfolded in front of
the world because I chose twice to have my family
on reality television, you know what I mean. So I
give that people an opportunity to really have that inside
looks so at the end of the day, I mean,
there's always a ton of judgment and opinions on situations,
but I just, you know, just day by day try
to improve as a man and grow. And you said,
(04:37):
I have my happiness back. Now you can feel it. Yeah,
that's good. That's sitting there. It's getting feeling again. I mean,
it's yeah, yeah, see it. I'm serious in my bright colors. Yeah, no,
it's again. It's just I wear my life on my sleeve,
you know. Me said, You're gonna ride the good and
the bad with me. I won't let it affect my day.
But it's funny you said that because maybe, like a
(04:58):
month ago, my six year old was like, damn are
you said? And I just thought I had a regular
face watching TV, you know what I mean. So I
definitely feel it. Just a lot of shit going on.
But I'm on this new spiritual journey and I just
think day by day, I'm getting stronger and improving.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Can I clear up something on youall platform?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Please?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Somebody told me yesterday they was like, man, well not yesterday.
A couple weeks ago, it was like banner like sometimes
it seems like you're so mad, and you had this
chip on your shoulder similar to you. And then I
thought about something and it pissed me off. I said,
tell me the only time I get mad, And then
it was like, damn when people fucking with black folks,
(05:36):
So only get mad over your ass. Like, we have
good lives. Actually we could fall back. I'm near the
rest of our life and be very fucking irresponsible. But like,
my anger only comes about people mistreating my people. Bro,
That's the only thing that fucking make me mad. Besides that, Bro,
I have an awesome fucking life and we're a big guy,
(05:58):
so most people ain't gonna do or say shit to
us in our face anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
That so now y'all question, bro, like, how do you
deal with man? Like knowing because I'm watching man, how
responsible you becoming with your anger? Because I deal with
anger issues like both of you all do, and like
when people don't understand, mine comes through constant prayer, constant meditation.
(06:23):
I do a lot of meditation and a lot of
fucking therapy. You know what I'm saying. It's funny because
one of my therapists is white and I being there,
like the fucking white phones to the white dude. That's
the craziest shit. But but like, bro, like, how do
you deal with knowing that you have a certain amount
of influence. I know who you are, a certain amount
(06:45):
of calls that you can make. We just got off
the phone and one of them people and a lot
of times, bro Like, you have to love people more
than they love themselves. Bro Like, I'm watching how you
navigate that. Where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I think I didn't got to the point where you know,
I still have crazy thoughts who want to do crazy
ship trust me go, I ain't through working with me yet.
But I love the people like my team and people
who who who believe in me, who I'm responsible for.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
So I've grown to know that.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
If if I fall, they all all you know what
I'm saying everything, So I don't, like I told I said,
I'm not gonna be the person my attitude now, I'm
not gonna be the person.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
To fuck it up.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
You know what I'm saying for nobody, especially the people
that's depending on me. So that's I think now. You know,
perfect example, somebody says something about me and George Fullard recently, No,
you know, I normally.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Anything somebody says, I'm jumping on this.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I didn't say nothing, you know what I'm saying, because
I know that person is trying to bait me to
say they name. You know what I'm saying, And I
know I saw somebody. By sawing the person, they wouldn't
say nothing, you know what I'm saying. But just because
I have people depending on me and the responsibilities responsibilities
I have, I make better decisions. But I want to
(07:57):
say something to about what you're saying about him. I
think he's I think people don't understand the responsibility that
Matt has on the shoulders with this company, with family,
Like it's a lot that he's done and he's built.
He has a big role in where our company is today.
You're giving us our props. He has a big part
of that. So people don't understand what all the bullshit
they hear read, they don't understand the responsibility and things
(08:19):
he's carrying and the things he's doing for all of us,
not just his family. He has all of us, this
whole company on the shoulders, you know what I'm saying.
So to see him get his happiness back, but it's
good for all of us to see. But at the
same time, he got a lot, he got a lot
of dealing with with this company and family and stuff
like that. So people don't see that, you know what
I'm saying. They just see the bullshit that people read,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm just giving you
a side of my brother. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I love I love him regardless, you know what I'm saying,
good and bad.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But and I think it's very powerful because we don't
get to see that in Americas, y'all brotherhood. I don't
know if y'all know how important it is because if
you even think as a rapper, there's not many of
us who love rap groups and they still together right
barely ever see that Man Dayla Soul is one of
the only groups that I know of that real, real
(09:04):
lives stayed together. So it's a mischief in the Bay Area,
but it's not too many of them. So like kids
are actually looking at y'all brotherhood, and sometimes I'm realizing
that we the concept of us is actually bigger than
bigger in who we are as human beings.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Totally we didn't. You know what's funny is it's starting
this show. It was never That wasn't my thought process.
That wasn't either of our thought process. We didn't really
know what we had we and we wanted to build
a safe space. But in the same time, to your sentiment,
it was encouraging our brothers and sisters do the same.
We jumped in this shit. There was maybe two or
three of us. Now there's hundreds of you know, similar
(09:43):
talking about sports and shooting the shit. But that was
never our mindset. But to to you know, the highest
human acts is to inspire, you know what I mean.
So I think that's something and obviously having a voice
that is respected in the space is something we don't
take for granted. I think you know, you saw Stack
and I play our career and haters to love us.
We went about it the way we went about it,
(10:03):
and I think we've been able to polish that version
of our athletic self into this next phase of business
and have the right business acremen to be able to
still have the same success, if not more. I think
we're both you know, obviously he was a better score
that we were both role players to an extent, you
know what I mean for our careers and to be
able to have the success we've had post career and
(10:24):
to almost have our second act just as big, if
not bigger than our first act is crazy. You know
obviously you know the march he led was heard around
the world, you know what I mean. To have a
voice that carries that far and is respected that far
is a huge responsibility. So I think we've both grown
post career in that space understanding the responsibility that has
(10:45):
been bestowed upon us.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And I don't think any of you all can talk
about too many men or women and had to respect
in the hood the way that you all do. But
then it's able to deal, maneuver and navigate that corporate space, yeah,
the way that y'all have.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You know, I think I've been in and Jack to
me is starting to kind of he can do it.
He just had to be pushed, I think. But I've
always proud of myself on being able to be in there.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Jack don't give a fuck me.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He's starting to.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
In the past, he hasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
There's all that smoke.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I want to stand.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I want to stand the hood twenty four seven. But
I'm starting I'm starting to come about the hood now.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, but I think in the past, but I mean
again to your point, to be respected and be in
a in a in a dangerous space, but feel safe
and be safe and respected by those peers, and but
then also be a call to the White House. You'll
also be in these Disney buildings to also start our
own company. There's not too many people that have that
type of versatility. But I think the reason why we
have that, we had it and we have it even
(11:49):
more now is because we stay true.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
And you own your own shit huge, Like I've been
talking about that, like we got to start back putting
out things America has convinced us. Did you talk, Talk Talk.
One of the reasons why I don't have a podcast
anymore is because I think it's too many niggas talking.
I really do. It's too many motherfuckers un in their
mouth that's not qualified and I ain't saying nothing. That's why
(12:11):
I respect y'all so much. Mother fuck can't tell y'all
sit about basketball, you lived it, you know. One of
the reasons why I stopped producing as much as I
did was because there was a white an r He
was twenty three years old and came to me talking
about southern music. Excuse me, bitch, you can't tell me
about no fucking Southern music. Maybe maybe R and B. Okay,
(12:32):
maybe I take that, maybe country, maybe Dad. But for
you to feel comfortable enough in my culture to think
that you can tell somebody whether I had a big
part to do with it or a small part, but
somebody that really was in the trenches doing this shit
for real, you feel comfortable enough to even say anything.
That's a problem. I got a problem with that. But
(12:53):
where the blessing comes in is I used to want
to do something. Now I understand that David Banner as
a concert up. People want you to go to jail.
People want you to touch them so they can sue you.
What I'm realizing is that our anger is actually the
devil's remote control because once it let go, both all
of us are examples and when that shit went way wrong, yep.
(13:16):
But the blessed part is that we can live in it.
Though it's one thing. Once I decide to go, it's gone.
I mean, it just is what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, So when did that switch over happen? Though? Like
I said, we've kind of our journey's kind of played
out more on television because we you know, played sports.
But when did your kind of that switch flip to
Obviously it's still in me, but I understand it's bigger
than me now.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I used to I used to be a really wild dude.
I'm actually preparing to do a travel show and where
people don't know, bro, I jump out of airplanes. I
used to do all of my own stunts.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You do white people all.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
That, well, well, well well, well, well, well all humans
have a want to tell that's death in danger. But
the fact that black people us just living on this
earth is dangerous. It's the reason why we don't. We
could just go out in the hood and get that
brush that y'all get from jumping out of motherfucking plane.
But as a CEO, I always wanted to know, like
(14:16):
what the fuck why these white boys do that shit?
Like what is it? And I realized when I jumped
out a plane for the first time, I had a
meeting because I did the end. I did the music
for the international release of the A Class for Mercedes
Beings one year, and I was really nervous about talking
to the CFO of Mercedes Bears after I jumped out
(14:38):
that plane and looked looked at death the way man.
Fuck that dude. Yeah, Like, I ain't put on these
draws the same way I do. And I think that
that is the reason why I started testing those boundaries.
If I can swim with a shark, I can definitely
swim with your black ass.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm dead serious.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And I just realized, man that instead of think about this, bro,
I think about this in training because a lot of
my friends ask me why do I train so hard
in the gym and still run and fight and do
the things that I do. I'm asking, as fuck I am.
I get a ship over here, I'm probably gonna lead
(15:20):
it in a second. That's what my homie said when
I got here. He's like, man, watch you like you've
been eating powdered downnuts. Like but but honestly, though, I
learned that if, if, when, when mountains and hills come,
(15:43):
if you set artificial ones in your life, then it
won't shock you when life brings. You're ready, stay away,
stay around danger. People always say that, bro, stay around
the hood and with the hood, then you ain't never
got to go back home because you never really left,
you know. And I'm just grateful. One thing that I
can say, bro, is that I'm one of the few
(16:04):
people that hip hop allowed to grow up. Most people
want you to stay exactly who you are, you know,
similar to how they do Marriy J. Blige and Anthony Hamilton.
Some people they don't want to see us happy. They
don't want to see us move to that next left.
They want to keep y'all mad, you know what I'm saying.
(16:25):
And so for me, Bro, I'm just grateful that in
all of this time, Bro, they allowed me to grow up.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's a blessing. Back to my original question that just
blew by two of your questions, But I want to know,
I mean, because again you're so tapped into kind of
just life and culture and policy. You mentioned being ready
to just get up out of here. It's got to
that point for you feel like.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
No, what happened with me is I realized, Bro, that
for me and my spirituality, God showed me that I
am the God of my reality. And I think that's
the reason why we go through depression. That's the only
reason why I consider that they may may be a
heaven a hell is because we make choices. Other animals
(17:13):
don't have the opportunity to make a choice, right, So
what I realize is that if you really think about it,
bro especially with our influence, like let's say let's pick
a place Hawaii, right, well, for me, let's say Bali.
I like Bali, all right, you can either let Bali
be your place that you go vacation and then I
(17:35):
for me go back to Atlanta, right or since we
got money in influence, might not allow Bali to be
our home and then fly back to Atlanta to do work. Literally,
so if you spend let's say in a month, if
it's thirty days in a month, you spend twenty eight
days in Atlanta working and two days in Bali, right, well,
(17:55):
then why not spend two days in Atlanta working? You
know what I'm saying, We actually can do that. And
what they do to black people is they make us
feel like our worth is connected with how hard we
fucking work. I'm learning it's not about working hard, it's
about thinking hard and setting up systems. You all, if
(18:15):
you chose to, you can now put youngsters in these
seats and then y'all can go set up other systems
like this and just check on your systems. But we
feel like if we're not working every day, think about
Oprah there was a time in Oprah's career if she
wasn't on every fucking cover of every magazine, it wasn't popping.
If she wasn't in every movie. Bro, that's high priced slavery.
(18:39):
If you really really think about it, BRO, we should
be thinking dog. We should be on the beach. Bro,
like you all set, I just gotta be honest with y'all.
I'm high as fuck. I wouldn't have done this in
any other setting, Bro, but like, no, like y'all, these
ain't my shoes. I left my shoes and I was like,
(19:01):
I knew that I was taking you bitches a trip
on that, but seriously, Bro, I walked in and I
felt comfortable enough to be like, hey, Bro, I left
my shoes.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Bro, I got some I thought that motherfuckers went with
your fit.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I thought that was you.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think that your But seriously, that's the environment that
you are set man and and me. Bro. I just
this is very personal, BRO. Like I haven't treated my eye,
I don't treat myself well. I fight for everybody else
because I know how it feels to be for Mississippi.
(19:36):
You know, you know how it feels to be for
p a Bro.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Tell I tell him what I told your stairs when
I when I first saw you, because we talked all
the time. First thing I said to him what I said, Bro,
you're getting risk and I know what he's doing. I
know how you been moving around. I know I know
the blessings that's coming this way and he trying to
he moving there. When as soon as I seen him today,
the first thing I said to him my first words, Bro,
you get some resk.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Actually because I know it, actually said you want some weed.
Now you didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I know. I say that is not smoke.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
That's the second thing you say.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Just joking.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
But seriously, y'all, Like, I don't I don't treat myself well, bro,
And I'm learning. My therapist told me this, Bro. My
therapist said, you always talking about black people, black people,
black people. He said, well, you black, so why don't
you treat yourself the way you want to see black
people treat it? And I was like, fuck, I damn
sure do you know what I'm saying? And so like
now I do I do myself better?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Y'all?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You know me, bro, I never won't know all this
ship at the at the.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I'm like, you got a style its not Brother.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I'm telling you motherfucker's mouth. I told him ithert that.
I was like, Bro, like, you can't offer me ten
thousand dollars my outfit?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Nine? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
How to give me?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
You?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
How to give me eighty?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You feel me?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
People treat you how you treat yourself? You understand what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
That's interesting too, because I've always been a shirt off
the back, giver, provider, push and neglect myself when I'm
actually the one that's really in control of everything around me, Bron,
interesting aspect.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
We need you here, We need you to love yourself.
So listen to me, y'all. I usually don't talk about
this kind of stuff, but this environment makes me feel comfortable.
If God was standing over there when you pray, where
would you look over there? Where God is right? You
know why you close your eyes. You close your eyes
(21:28):
because you're actually praying inward. If people knew where God
actually was, That's why so hard for black people to
find God, because we can't believe that God is actually
inside of us. So if we really thought about that, Bro,
we would treat our bodies better. Like Bro, the shit
that I eat. I just came back from Columbia doing
(21:50):
stem cell bio x because of what you said. I
was so embarrassed, BRO, when you asked me the question,
because I know I should be sleeping more and I
get I get on my wheel, bro, because sometime we
don't we can't even believe that we that blessed. We
should know it, We should know that we deserve this. Bro.
As hard as you all work, you deserve to live better.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And thank you for allowing us to meet your children.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Broh Man.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I enjoy your kids like I'm watching TV. God, that's
just so fucking dope and they so free. Yeah, Like
I wish that's once one of my dreams, BRO, that
if my children grew up. I don't want them to
be ass wholes, but if they chose to be and
they had that kind of freedom without pushing it on
other people and being oppressive, And I hope for my
(22:36):
children to be free, bro. And you're allowing that for
your kids.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
You want your twins to be burnt out like his
it was about thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I enjoy them, Bro, I really do that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You've been out spoken about you know, I'm saying this
isn't the best time right now for our black community
and being poor and stuff needing to band together? Why
is that such an issue in our communities?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
You feel, well, actually, I think it's the best time.
I think it's the best time because America has clearly
shown us that we're not crazy. You remember the stuff
we used to tell people. They really fucking thought we
was crazy, bro, And now that it's crazy times, they
come and get the crazy men. You know what I'm saying,
This is actually the best time in history for us
to be free. The thing is that most people won't admit.
(23:32):
And I'll say this, bro, and I said this a lot,
but I mean this. I think some, not all. I
think some black people they don't want to free the slaves.
They want their opportunity to hold a whip. They want
to do the same thing to black people that white
people did. Think about rap in the NBA. Truthfully, to
all it really takes for the NBA, it's fucking seats,
(23:56):
a fucking ball and some asses in them seats. Bro,
It ain't as hard as we make it, bro. But
think about it, when somebody is a rapper in your hood,
you being hot or having the buzz, what does that equate?
That equates power?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
What's the first thing a rapper going and do go
find them a white person to run their business because
they don't believe that they can run their own fucking
businesses because we are afraid of power. I think that
black people are afraid of freedom the same way they're
afraid of death. Death may be better, but you don't
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want to test that shit because you ain't never been
there before. You feel me, so for me, bro, like,
what does freedom look like? That's the reason why I
started a Banner Vision and I started my movie company.
Watch this, y'all, it's gonna fuck y'all head up. There
was there was this black child with a father and
she was screaming uncontrollably. Her dad said, baby, what's wrong?
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She said, daddy, are they gonna be any black people
in the future. I was watching the Jetsons and I
didn't see nothing. So it's our responsibility to show them.
You all are showing them what sports looks, what looks
like in the future. Y'all are showing them what it's
supposed to be. Can't no motherfucker tell y'all about basketball.
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Motherfucker can talk all of that shit, But if you
ain't never been on that court. You ain't never had
them inside and outside pressures. A bitch can't tell you
shit and they shitn't right, and so like that's how
I feel about now. Now is the best time if
we get off our asses. These kids are waiting for us,
most negroes. Bro, they ain't even respected in their own hood.
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How can you save the world and you can't even
save your own house. You can't even save your own hood. Bro.
If we all went outside and picked up the fucking
paper in our front yard and everybody did that, inherently,
it'll be a better place. It'll be a cleaner place.
So that's the reason why it means so much to
be Bro. I think you a fucking sucker if you
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got this power influence and you turn that shit in
on people. I never understood that, Bro. People would come
to Mississippi, Bro, and not like we was dirty, Bro,
act like they couldn't come out their little VIP motherfucker.
We paid all this money to see you. You can't
bring your black ass and then wonder why you don't
make it home safe. No, I'm dann serious, Bro. Yeah, Bro,
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I love La so much because I know how La
pressed niggas and Bro they protected me, dog, Bro. When
I left and moved away from la and I started
realizing the motherfuckers that was around me and what they
did for a living man. I was so grateful to
their motherfuckers. Bro, they allowed me, they had a level
of respect or reverence for me. Well, they ain't even
(26:40):
let me see some of that shit. Bro, Come on, bro,
you can't buy that. That's one thing. And these niggas
came excuse me, these people came by. Yeah, facts, All right,
let's bring it back up, y'all. I said I was
gonna do bound them.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Let's migrate back to Mississippi. Brookven so Port Arthur is
a small place. You know, it's only forty fifty thousand
dollars forty fifty thousand people eleven k where you from.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Talk about growing up in brook.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Haven and how it is because that's one of them
cities where everybody know everybody, everybody doing.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
The same thing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Well, brook Cavern. I grew up in Jackson. My grandmother
and my family like from Slavery. That's where they're from. Yeah,
And the crazy thing is it's fifteen minutes from a
cone where Snoop was born where Brandy and ray J
was born. You know that period and that part of
Mississippi and Mississippi as a whole, so almost like the
birthplace of culture to a certain degree.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Montellis Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
And so for me, Bro, growing up in Mississippi, man
was it just really made me and prepared me for
the world. I can make it there, Bro, I can
make it anywhere, Bro. And actually fair Con told me
that fair Con was like Banner, like, if you can
do anything, Bro, with the press of black people coming
from out of Mississippi, just the fact that you are
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from Mississippi, where people think sorta is the beacon of racism.
If I can come from out that bitch man and
do the stuff that I'm doing, even with my diet,
people are so surprised.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I hadn't ate pork since I was in eleventh grade.
That again, I haven't ate pork since I was in.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Y'all are missing out, Bro, So well, you send me
pictures of bacon and bacon something.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I would see all kinds.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Of shit every day and I'm not see but see,
this is the thing that people like about me.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
If I could bathe in pork. I never said that
ship wasn't good, didn't taste good. I never said. But
what I will say, and watch this answer this question
for me. And I'm not trying to convince you. If
you knew for a fact, watch this. If you knew
for a fact that rat tasted good, would you eat it?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
If it tastes like bacon?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Probably hilarious, but like a rats rats.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
We were eating some ship that we don't really know.
I mean, my daddy was a butcher by day, in
the streets by night, so I knew about how nasty
these animals are. These motherfuckers just taste good, he said.
I just I work out a lot to try to
flush it. But yeah, there's a lot of it in me.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Cheers to bacon. Yeah, no, I would not do that.
I would not do that. Do it over, do it over.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I'm not doing that. I got doing that. I got
a cousin that came to my crib and he thought
I was joking about pork to dB. Yeah, he cooked
something while I was gone, and I smelled it when
I came in the house, and I threw away all
that ship, the pots and pans, everything.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, no pork in my house bro at all And
actually that came from hip hop me listening to Brand
Nubian when I was young. Yeah yeah, and that's one
of the things I always wanted to do in hip hop.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
It is like, we used to have people that would
take us to different places. Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like,
think about how powerful NWA was, bro, Like we knew
that cops were beating the shit out of us and
the places that we were from, and nobody ever talked
about that shit. And yeah, hell yeah yeah UGK for life. Bro.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Hey, but the time you was growing up though, it
was the murder capital. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Well, Jackson, Mississippi was the murder capital of the United States.
And actually my friend Chucky was the first person to
die in Jackson, Mississippi from game violence. So it hit
me a little bit different. And that's one of the
reasons why I love rap music so much. And people
didn't notice about me, bro. I used to be a
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battle rapper. I was a hip hop dude, and all
my friends would always ask me, like, why you listen
to that shit? The niggas don't give a fuck about us,
And I was like, Bro, the shit that most people
rap about, we see that shit outside our house. Why
do I want to encapsulate my shit, myself in that
shit all the time. We see that the ship that
most people rap about the most, the most shit that
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people rap about. Bro, we really new that shit for real,
and it's not cute. That's why I tell you it's
not cute. Like a lot of people trip on me, man,
because I always told my homies, like, bro, if y'all
don't have a job, get the fuck away from me.
We can't fuck this shit up that we doing, man like.
I never got that shit about rappers. What are you
mad about? Bro? We got out. You need to protect
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this shit, dude. Why you why you showing out? Dug.
That's why I never ever got in trouble, Bro. People
trip on that. I ain't never got in trouble because
I know how much a blessing these Bro. I'm from Mississippi.
I'm from the poorest motherfucking state in the United States,
and y'all gonna fuck this shit up over some bullshit,
over some words, some nursery rhyps, shooting a fucking basket
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shit shit, the fuck if I fucked this up, bro,
And I am so grateful, even man like I'm deding serious.
I'm grateful for you all to allow me on y'all platform,
and I know that we're friends and we know each other.
That ain't got nothing to do with y'all business. For
you all to allow me to have access to y'all fans,
it means something to me. I am not playing bro.
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When I went to the clubs, all my hommies with
trip like this is my job. Who's the dope dealer,
who's the most influential girl, who's the DJ?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Like?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I always looked at that. I still do that to
this day. Y'all saw when I walked up in the
spot at Steph Shit, first thing, I went to the
fucking DJ. What's happening to humboy? Everys your name blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah. Who's the most influential
person in this room? I'm not playing when I'm in
the club, dog, And I don't really want to go
to that shit when I'm off. People like, man, why
you don't want to go out while yn't want to
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go to concert? Man, I don't want to see all
that loud shit. I'd be somewhere quiet.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Dog.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Motherfuckers think I'm a geek because that's my fucking lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Bro, did you have a place sports?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
What you played?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Play basketball? Rand?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Track?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I used trash day style.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Hey, he didn't ask me what? He didn't ask me
if I was good? I ain't nobody talking about your
active career. I ain't get on here. I mean I
don't have no basketball career. I couldn't let him go
on like, yeah, yeah, he asked what I played. I
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didn't say I was good and killing.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
But don't push what level you playing?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I was just high school?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
High school? It starts hell now or you just start?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Did you get some time? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I got a little. So what was your talent that much?
What's crazy? I was like Chambers? But what's funny is, Bro,
I didn't have a vertical bro. Ye, I had a
one leg like Tom Chamber. I put your ass in
there he had.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Yeah, yeah that's and I dunk on a lot of
people too.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
And I had heart, bro, Like that was got to
get you a long way. To be honest with you, Bro,
I shouldn't have played basketball. I was really good at track.
To this day, I still I can be fat and
run eighteen run eighteen miles huh yeah, very long distance.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I'm not fast.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I can just run all day. I can Zulu truck.
I really believe. And I heard Will Smith say this
one time, and I actually now believe it. Running is mental.
All you really have to do is take one more step.
What happened is the same way we do with our goals.
We look at our lofty goals and it intimidates us
when in actuality, all you gotta do is take one
more step. Any motherfucker can take one more step.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
I gotta think of that when I'm I'm going to
get this peloton, so I gotta keep one more step
stack because of the shit.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well, but I ain't gonna tell people where we are
because I wanted to stay out here. I was gonna
get a spot out here and it didn't work out.
But like, bro, go by that water, Like get outside, bro,
that peloton. Shit is cool and it's raining, but get
outside in the sun and look at it. Like Bro,
you walk by and see a nice ass when you
run by. Bro, that'll help you. I'm there, serious.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I motivation.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I go to a gym with a lot of motivation.
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
You get through.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
You are walking motivation. Bro, Thank you I live through.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
You appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I can't wait till your motherfucker see what's up under
these clothes.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Though.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I'm so motherfucking fire of the bitch right now, I'm
about to tell that I'm dead.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Get ready to peel.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Let me tell y'all something. Let me tell y'all, cotton.
Cotton ain't never done nothing for a nigga from the South.
I'm done with T shirts in three months. I don't
even wear them, bitches, no more shirtless. I'm done.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I'm aware of.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Barrel pelt pussy on my right shoulder just to show
a certain gratitude. That's it.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
That's the only That's the closest thing I'm gonna have
to I'm a Russian during the winter time, no shirt on.
I'm that fucking sexyst y'all, I'm on their motherfucking ass. Yes,
you can use your hair. I don't have that, bro.
You got the Superman curl right?
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Saw that ship.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I tried to do it myself.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
It didn't work.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
You have to.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
You just have to see him go in the building
and just see how it is real. Ship is unreal,
and sometimes it's Loki annoying sometimes because he'll come back
by me and make a little smart comment.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
You know what I'm saying. It's Loki annoying.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Sometimes it's really y'all just get ready to watch your brother.
I'm done. I'm telling y'all no kind I'm on these
mother like dude, I honestly think, and it's great that
I tape this show now because I think in three
years I want to transcend the human form. I'm half
DEMI god under this bitch right now. I'm dead serious. Sorry, Yeah,
I hate. I really hate that Prince died. I got
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that though. I really think I'm the sexiest motherfucker in
this bitch ever. Enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Hey, dismissed, I'm like stepped.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I'm like stepping. I'm like Steph Curry. I didn't have
the natural attributes that some people have.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
But I worked on it. I worked on it.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I don't have a swaging bird the sweat. I worked
on it. That's it. I just was a personal announcement
really quick.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Tell me this, What was your thoughts of the movie
Center's been shot in Mississippi?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I mean set, it wasn't It wasn't shot Mississippi. Bro. Actually,
I just left Mississippi. They didn't have a theater that
could house the movie. So it was a young man
bro here about twenty eight years old. What's his name, Sweeten? Huh?
Steve yar Bro Tyler Yar Bro. Yeah, young man from Mississippi. Bro.
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He got on the internet, Bro and really started talking
about it, and Ryan Coogler Ryan Coogler and what is
Warner and Warner Brothers. Man flew down Bro and set
it up and let the whole time watch the movie.
And so I flew down there. He don't, Bro. They
had the tax credits and he said something really dope.
He said that the studio in Louisiana was big enough
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because the idea was so big, he had to have
a studio that can actually house you know that idea
being that big man. And I really think man that
like that, he's going to really really do something because
he really can. And I found that his family is
from Mississippi too, and so man, I'm honored.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
The only thing that I say, and I meanness, it's
now our time, bro, to start writing our own movies
and our own stories, bro, because it's cool to talk
about the blues. It's cool to talk about dope and
pain and all of that kind of shit. But when
do we write ourselves into the future? Right, What does
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Mississippi look like in the future? Like I saw, a
white scientist said something that was so powerful man, and
nobody ever thought about this. He said that there's no
way possible that super Man is white. You know why,
he said, because superman power comes from the sun. White
people are allergic to the sun. If Superman is really
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if he's a if he's a battery and his power
comes from the solar system, then he would be darker
than the darkest night. There's no way possible that he
could be a white man. So for me is when
are we gonna be gods? When are we gonna be superheroes?
When are we gonna feel that way about ourselves? Have
y'all ever noticed that when black people direct films? In
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most films, that's why I love Ryan so much, we
lose in our own film shit. In a bene vision,
I'm gonna get the girl, I'm gonna have sex with up,
I'm gonna get all the fucking money everybody, the police
ain't the police gonna Everybody gonna get it, but the
black folks I'm dad serious, bro.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Jack played blank man, didn't you.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Y'all funniest fucked up? But like, I'm honored that he
gave us that look, man, because it was crazy. I
didn't see I didn't know that the story was about
Mississippi till I saw the movie. And I'll say this, man,
I think that every black person in America should go
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and see that man's movie. Like what he's doing. Even
from a business perspective, y'all understand that y'all setting the
precedents of how people handle us from a business perspective,
think about this. I thought about this man. Y'all know
how we complain about how Spotify is doing music and
you know, our publishing and all that kind of stuff.
The only thing we gotta do this shit is not hard.
(40:37):
It's signed artists ourselves and just pay him the same
way that y'all doing with some of the ogs. Y'all
go and get the ogs and the people who should
have had jobs and should have got paid. Mister Jackson.
You know what I'm saying, y'all giving them an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Y'all are be in the gods of youall own reality, bro,
and that's important to me. Bro, Yeah, getting real quiet.
That's how fun.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Yeerz.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yeah yeah, talk to us about the Demi tapes and
going from Cricket Letters with Kama Cosy.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
First of all, Man, Like, this is something that I
didn't think about until recently. Bro. Like me and t
I were one of the few artists. Bro, we made
it out twice. I didn't think about that. Bro. Like
people forget bro that I had a record deal when
Noriega was was the hottest thing on the planet. I
was signing the Penalty the same time that Noriega was.
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I was in Cricket Letters. Right, That's where I signed
to Right, That's.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Where get Krunk came from. Your people thought that was
a HUGK song, you know, Bro, I didn't. But yeah,
but Bro, I'm just proud man that that I've had
the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Man, It's it's lonely because I know I'm a fucking genius. Bro.
I know how good I am at this shit. And
it's funny. Pimpsy used to tell me that shit all
the time. You said, Banna, you smart, you smart man,
you like it. Just take people, he said, put out
two more like a pimps. Man, It's gonna take a
minute for people to understand you. You smart and bro
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like to be able to represent Mississippi in a way,
and Bro to be able to change the way I
even watch man like. People didn't used to even come
through Mississippi on their promo tools. And Bro, after I
came out, the motherfuckers came to my city. People don't
even notice that kind of shit, Bro, the things that
we do for our city. And sometimes Bro, like my
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mom say this shit all the time. She said, being
a visionary is a blessing and a curse. Your God
has blessed you to see things that other people can't see,
but you curse to sit in them alone. And it's
actually backwards to want people to understand you, because if
they under more people understand you, then the less your
worth is. Do you want to be the person that
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creates the iPhone? Or you the person you want to
be the person that does the updates? And if you
the person that want to create the iPhone, motherfucker's gonna
laugh at you like niggas laughed at me. Bro. Bro
when I first started rapping, and I may be dating
myself a little bit. Bro, they weren't even playing rap
on the main radio stations. They weren't playing rap on
the radio stations only on Sundays on WNPR at four o'clock.
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So like, Man, for me to be able to say,
man that now I may, I don't know if it's
still that, it's still the same. I think I'm the
youngest person. I'm in between Elvis Presley and BB King
and in the I'm in the Mississippi Music Hall of Fame.
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So to be able to say that, Man, it's a blessing.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Bro, how do you make beats while you're homeless? Oh?
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Man, that's dope, great question. I tell kids this, Bro, Like,
I went to Walmart and got a what's the thing
that tread? It takes the electricity? You put it in
a converter. Yeah, I went to Walmart and got a
converter and built the studio of my van and bro
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like a lot of my homeboys didn't want to get
on the road with me, dude, and so I turned
that the passenger side literally into a studio.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
But I ain't I'm me personally, I'm deeper than that.
I ain't talking about the equipment, talking about mentally, Like
how you even keep yourself focused?
Speaker 1 (44:26):
To know you homeless. I gotta do this to you,
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I tell you why, because I did some research, bro,
and I found out there's two types of rich people.
There's rich people who become rich because they have family
and their parents have influence, their parents have friends, like
they can show you the way. Or you could be
so fucking poor that you don't have no fucking choice.
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You either gonna make it or you're gonna die. So
I didn't know no rich people. I didn't have to
be homeless.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Bro, we didn't hear shit.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
I didn't have to be homeless. But I knew that
either I can be lower middle class and work at
a bank and have a fucking boring ass life because
to me, hell is working in the fucking office and
doing the same fucking thing every day. Bro, I probably
blow my fucking brains up. As hard as it is
for us, there is not one day in any of
our lives that's the same. This ship is actually like
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being on the fucking Gandalf or something. I'm serious, bro, Like,
it's like being a fucking wizard. Every day. We create magic. Yeah,
Lord of the Ring. Yeah, like, bro, we this ship is.
This ship is fun, bro, Like Honestly, we at work high.
I mean a lot of y'all at work high.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
But y'all faking y'all.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Y'all can't say y'all high.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Everybody on our staff is fine.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Oh y'all high.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, fucking light up here.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
We do it as a team. That's what we think
about it. Every we do everything. We do everything.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
It's just a high rainbow over there.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah everybody, But no, man, I knew that in order
for me to be successful, I had to burn the bridges.
Not only I not only burned the bridges, I burned
the boats.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Doug.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
I was SGA president at Southern Bro. They said I
was one of the best SGA presidents in history ever, Bro,
Like I could have I could have done that corporate shit.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
I was a.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Semester in the thesis. I'm I'm a semester in the thesis.
Away from my master's degree. I had a three point
nine nine eight seven. An accelerated masters.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Program is like a paper.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
So yeah, I've always been intelligent, always bro. When I
was in when I was in the third grade, I
read on a junior in college level. I could count
to a million.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
That's funny, because I knew that right, you're looking at everything.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
It's like, what look at my brother?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (46:48):
The thesis is right? And so for me and so
for me it was just it was just like I
had to burn the bridges, man, and I had to
get out there man, and it was crazy man.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Like.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
I went back to the streets twice, bro, Like I
made it out and then I went back and created
it my own company. Huh. Just twice, yeah, just twice.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
Just twice, Okay, okay, just twice.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I'm different than these other negroes. I'm not proud of
that ship, Bro. I'm a I'm sort of embarrassed some
of the ship that I did. Like we talked about outside,
I'm not happy about that ship. Ain't nothing cute about
that ship at all. Bro. You know, I'm just happy
that we are able to talk about it now we
do it.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Tell me this, with the record business being so shady,
how did how did you learn it and navigate through
it being independent?
Speaker 3 (47:40):
I didn't know. Eric Abadu taught me this like in
some cases, and you know, I'm a man of knowledge.
I never say that ignorance is cool. But like, B,
I really thought that ship was real, Bro, I really
thought that that like I looked at hip hop. My
little homeboy man who just got out the streets. He
used to tell me that shit O the time. He said, Man,
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this rap shit hurt you, like it's a girl or something.
Bro Like, I really love the rap. Bro, I really
thought that shit was real. Motherfuckers don't care nothing about us. Bro.
You know, Pimp taught me that, Bro, like, we got
to care for us. I got this theory, man, that
the story of Jesus, the story of Jesus isn't about
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a man coming down bearing a cross for you. I
believe the story of Jesus is about a man coming
down to show you how to bear your own cross.
So like hip hop, hip hop ain't fair hip hop
being pay attention to us until the Bay Area in
Texas showed us how to be independent, how to make
our own record companies. They only cared about Southern hip
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hop because we were making more money than they were.
As a whole, we didn't look at ourselves. Imagine little
Flip Thugger, David Banner, Ludicris Pastor, Troy E forty two,
short master p. Imagine how many to you a South
Park Mexicans? How much money we were making as a conglomerate. Bro.
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So what they did is they signed all of us,
got us all out of the way, and then motherfuckers
fell off.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
But together we were putting the dent in that shit, y'all.
And we didn't have the We didn't have the foresight
to see what they did and then watch this, watch this,
this fuck your head up. Then we learned how to
get mom and pop stores. We had a Southwest distribution,
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we had Gonzales, we had our own distribution companies. They
sucked the distribution companies up, bought the distribution companies, sick
the fans on the main DJs and the mom and
pop stores. Then they sucked the mom and pop stores up,
then closed the Virgin Mega store. Right when we had learned, Bro,
I had just got to the point where I was
getting nine dollars a fucking album. Dog. If I would
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have sold one more album, Bro, and then negroes wan
to stream, I'm about to get nine dollars and you
tell me now, I'm getting a fraction of a peny shit. Bro,
This shit, Bro, it's actually genius. Racism, Bro, and imperialism
is actually genius. Me and Scott was talking about this
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in the back. If you take away the fact that
they fucking over us, the shit is actually genius, Bro,
and they got us happy about streaming. Man that shit
so fucking stupid, you know. But what I will say
bro again, Bro, like, all we have to do is
be successful, Bro, and then we can change the shit
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for these kids, because think about what they have successfully done.
There is now one generation of children that have never
bought anything, so it's hard to convince them to give
you nine dollars an album for something that they have
always gotten for free. And then we're giving our money
to tech companies, not even people who care about us,
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who care about me. We even know who we are. Bro.
It's funny. I'm about to be I'm about to go
meet with the dude from Spotify. But the real truth is, Bro,
from a business perspective, you my enemy. And it's hard
Bro when it's just one of us, Bro that shits
so fucking lonely dog, when God has blessed you with
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the information to know better, Bro, and niggas look at
you like you crazy or like you wet. And then
sometimes because we're in flesh, sometimes you start tripping, like damn,
am I fucked up. You know who knows? Who knows?
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Yeah, another drake, What does a what does an early
David Banner production package look like? What do you mean
like earlier in the day, Like when you go to
produce an album, make an album for somebody all beat?
Speaker 1 (51:47):
How does that look like? You show up to the studio?
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Oh okay, I get you. Honestly true story. I was
one of the few producers similar to many Fresh and
Jazzy Faber. I would make the beat in front of
them that I'm talking about because I never I knew
how it felt bro At first, I couldn't afford beats,
and then when I hustled up enough money to buy beats,
nigros will never give me the beats I heard on
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the album. Like, dog, I'm a fan of you, How
are you gonna give me this bullshit? I want the
ship that was on your album.
Speaker 4 (52:15):
You made you made your everything?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
No, no, no, who made that everything?
Speaker 3 (52:21):
I did? I get Well, that's clear up something I
thought you made that. No people thought I did international
players too, that was that was juicy Jay, and I
didn't do that. To this day, people I said, I
did not do that. I appreciate you a lot of
people that gave me money thinking I did it. I
tell him, like, bro, I didn't do it, but I
still want your money.
Speaker 5 (52:38):
You have done record for Bough, You have done records
for Buny pim right.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
I've done records for Pimp. I never did stuff for you, GJ.
I was actually slated to do a lot of pimpsy
like big album and the independent album that he was
gonna do. Yeah, what drew.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
You to transition from rapping to getting more behind the production,
the producer's side of music.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
I never Honestly, people don't notice. I never wanted to
be a producer. I just couldn't afford beats, and I
come to find out I don't. Most people don't notice
that shit. Yeah, most people don't know this though. But
the person or that is my father isn't my blood father.
He raised me from when I was three, I found
out that my biological pop father played twelve instruments. I've
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never been classically trained in music ever, maybe except the drums.
But and so that shows you that God has a purpose.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Right.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
One time, I really wanted to do something to my
biological father. I was gonna find him when I was
eight months he threatened my life. I mean, he jumped
on my mom and threatened my life, and I always
wanted to see him be like what that looks like now.
But I realized, Man, maybe his only purpose in the
universe was to give me musical talent, and he did that.
He dumped that all. You know what I'm saying. In music, man,
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As much as I can complain about it, every time
my life goes bad, music is always the thing that
brings me back. So you know, just I'm grated. That's
the one thing that I can say. I'm a good actor,
and I honestly work at that shit. I go to
acting school, been going to acting school for twenty years. Really,
I have to work at that, bro, really really hard
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bro music. That drum machine. Bro, I'm serious, Bro. On
a good day, I don't think too many people can
fuck with me on the drum machine program and an
actual drum machine. I could do that shit with my
eyes closed in the dark, you know what I'm saying.
So it's just what I It's just what I've always done, bro,
and I'm great at it.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
I'm actually he produced my next album with that money
he got.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
He got that.
Speaker 5 (54:48):
Shit, sweety what's that alcohol? It was alcohol this time,
that was water. Last time I would like one.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
Yeah, that's fine. I used to that to the DJ.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Now we to get yours too, because you're trying to
run this time.
Speaker 4 (55:04):
Cheers to DV being in the building to his But no, I.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
Am. I'm one of the executive producers of Jill Scott.
Somebody got a hold in the lip and I'm enjoying that.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
That woman.
Speaker 5 (55:18):
We can't talk about her in front of me. Everybody
knows how I feel about Jill Scott. We're not gonna
do that. I've DMed her and told her and guess
what she told me what? I am so flattered in
another lifetime. Damn wow, she with that Eric. I love
Erica too. With Jim, I told her I had to.
I had to tell her physically how I felt it.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
And that motherfucker's so talented, bro, Like I learned so much.
Speaker 4 (55:41):
Hey, Jill, I'll get the next session.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
I'm gonna make a word mouthpiece so you don't fight you.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
That's hilarious. That motherfucker, she's man, She's I tell you
all the story, bro. I was in the studio working
on a record, bro, and she was just over there
writing and when a person is vibing, bro, let them
do what they do. And I went and looked over
her shoulder and it was only two or three words
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on the paper. So she would do this and then
put a word, and then go down and put a word.
And I was like, baby, I don't want to fuck
up your vibe, but like, what are you doing? And
she said, better, the words are in the paper, I
just have to find them. So she would stop the
music and then go back and fill in the words.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
It was the most magical shit I've ever seen in
my life. I've never seen and I will say this, Bro,
Jill Scott is the only BRO. And I've produced hundreds
of people in my life. Jill Scott is the most
efficient person I've ever worked with. She don't go in
the studio on vibe. She don't go in the studio
and drink and get high and shit.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Work eighty percent of the time. Eighty I'm not boyshitting.
She in the booth eighty percent of the time we're
in the studio. She said, I don't come here to write,
I come here to execute. You don't go You don't
go on game day and start doing new ship. People
don't understand most people, Like I remember Magic talking about
like that half court shot. He practiced that ship every
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day of his life, so when he would hit that
ship in half court, people thought it was magic. It
wasn't no fucking magic. You work on that ship. That
woman worked so fucking hard, bro, and she's so fucking dope,
and she do everything. Bro. She wrapped poetry, everything, Bro.
She told she told me something that made me feel
really good too. She said, I want to show the
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world how dope you actually fucking not, because they really
don't know it. Ain't nobody really ever took up for
me like that. Brobody else's working well, I know we
talked about a name that I asked you about in Fristyll.
Speaker 4 (57:45):
I was like, you know who you should be, you
should start doing stuff for you showed me your fine.
Who else you're working with?
Speaker 3 (57:51):
Oh Man, Andre, Bro, I've been I've been shooting Andre
beats bro over ten years. Bro. This is what I
This is my thing about music, and I'm gonna be
totally transparent with you all. My patience for music is gone.
Like I'm just being honest with you, bro, Like I
really only work with people that I care about in kids,
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kids that wont to learn. Like like I talk about
this and I'm serious, But the last time I produced
for t I, he didn't pay me. I didn't want
this money. I just wanted me and him to get
back in the studio, GiB because anytime me and him
in the studio make money, money happened, just like him
and too him and to getting in the studio, It's
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gonna happen. And whenever we get back to doing it
for the right reasons, the money chases us. Bro. I
just wanted.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (58:49):
I didn't know this, bro. A lot of people didn't know.
I did tip drill for Nelly. I did that too.
I got that boy in trouble. That whole credit card
ship my.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Fault that shit was.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
He said that shit was five. That was college time,
crazy thing that people don't know about. I wasn't even
at the video, like I was only at the video
fifteen minutes. Most people didn't know that that was actually
a remix to EI. So he told me he was
shooting the EI remix. I don't know what the fuck
that is this new tip drill and man, I got
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to the motherfucking video, bro, and Benny booone.
Speaker 1 (59:23):
Was my homie in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (59:25):
It was in Atlanta, and I was like, bro, just
put me in different places and shoot me and then
edit me in the video. Bro, I know what I
had missed. Bro, I missed the number one video all
time that I produced. And it wasn't even really that.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
It was that.
Speaker 4 (59:38):
Huh here was that?
Speaker 1 (59:39):
Like?
Speaker 3 (59:39):
Oh, I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (59:42):
Was it the two thousand?
Speaker 3 (59:43):
Ye? Now it had to be two thousands because I
didn't come out to two thousand and two, so that
had to be two thousand and four, two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
O five doing five shout oh fire. When Outcast said
the South has something to say? What did that mean
to you and me?
Speaker 3 (59:59):
And everything to me?
Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Everybody? Yep, you showed right say it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
And men everything to me, Man.
Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Everybody's TV like this, Matt.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Obviously when that happened. I mean, this put some content.
There was a lot of shit going on with the
East and West Coast at that.
Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Time, and we always overlooked. You know, when he said.
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
It, it it rained true because so much talent, but
it wasn't necessarily focused on that. Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
People still really don't I don't think the South is
going to get its proper look until we own our
own shit.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
It's like what we do is we make a lot
of other people money until you can cut the check
yourself and I have to run and beg somebody else.
Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Bro, check got your name on the signature line in
the end, the line.
Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
I give you a great example when I did play Bro,
I told Colin Park but I said, I may not
have the money that you used to getting paid for
a beat, but I got my check book right now.
I get ten thousand right now, like right this minute.
And it was funny because that was actually supposed to
be eight forty beat, but I had the money right then.
Man here running that I didn't know that was supposed
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to be in forties until after because he told me.
But like, Bro, like it's crazy, man, because we still
really don't have that South movie. Like if you really
think about one of the reasons why the West Coast
is so powerful, because at the same time when Snoop
and dra came out, what else was happening. It's a
society Like yeah, Bro, yeah, we never had that proper
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depiction of the South.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
That comes from us, you know what I'm saying, man,
So like for me. And that's one thing that I
hope to do with a banner vision, Bro, is just
to give honest depictions. It don't even have to be positive.
People always think when it's me because of the spiritual
mindset that I'm in, Like nah, I just want it
to be real and honest. That's the only thing that
we can ask for. Bro. All we need in culture
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is balanced. That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
What roles do strip clubs play in Southern hip hop? Everything?
You see his face when I asked them everything, everything.
Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Therapy, money, linery.
Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Now I'm just joking.
Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
No, honestly, Bro, The strip club for us was always
Jazzy Faye taught me this, Bro, that's.
Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
The Southern golf course. You know y'all make y'all deals
on the golf. That was our spot. That's the Southern
golf course. Dazzy Fading helped so many make all ideas
and means the ship that be at the strip clubs
in the South, it don't be at the golf course.
Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
So watch this, Bro, Jazzy Faye did something so genius. Bro,
we would be in the studio working right. I'm used
to putting my head down just grind out night like
calm down, calm down. It's like, let's take a rest.
He bounced down the n P three. Let's take it
to the strip club and see if the ship really
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works in real time. So you hear it in the studio,
you watch us, see if the girls react to it.
That's how I knew that like a pimp wasn't hit
DJ will Bro, I'll never forget.
Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
And that became the bluepens for every rapper in the South.
Popping in the strip club.
Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
You gotta hit, yeah, and you ain't gotta ask nobody.
You can't fluff that, bro. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
If the strip was like it and they getting it
played in there, your shit is at work. Hit.
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
You ain't got a beg nobody, Bro. And so what
we end up doing is okay, you watch it in
the studio. Okay, we can slow it out. We can
speed it up in real fucking time.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
That's what the strip club was for us, man. And
then the other thing was bro it was also a
gathering place that was neutral and safe because pussy has
a way to start violence and end violence, you know
what I'm saying. And so Bro, and that's one thing brother,
I have to say, man, and I'm serious about this
that I'm so grateful to Atlanta for Atlanta Bro was
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one of the few places I've ever been to, BRO
where they didn't mind you coming there and getting money.
You know, people always trip on while everybody running to Atlanta, Bro,
because if you started treating people in your town the
way that Atlanta treated people, BRO, you would go there too.
And so, Man, the Strip club was just a place
for us to congregate, man and talk about the really
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shit in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
It was so dope man. Good food, yeah, some of
the best food in the world. I remember I told
kros onon that Bro, me and karas One was building
on hip hop and I asked him. I was like,
what's the definition of hip hop? And he told me
and he was like, well, the real truth is probably
do eat chicken in the club, in the fucking strip club.
That's just the truth. My home boys are adult dealers,
(01:04:34):
That's just the fucking truth. Shre. So hip hop may
not be the same, but that doesn't mean that it's
not hip hop. I do have a Cadillac with twenty
two's I do. That happened for fucking real. So it's
just that you know that our hip hop is just
different than our experience. And that's one of my few
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criticisms about music.
Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
I want West Coast to be West Coast. I won't
oft to be South so we can talk about our
experience and enjoy each other. Bro. You know, bro Like
I heard Perico, Bro, it felt so good to hear
him be so fucking West Coast. You don't even know
(01:05:18):
how much of a fan I am. My home boy
Sally putting me on a bro. That was the reason
why Life Grisel di so much. They sounded so fucking
East Coast. You know what I'm saying, So like for me, bro, Like,
it's not about judging each other, It's about loving each
other for exactly who we are. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
The current climate of Southern Rap right now, obviously with
the you know, the YSL trial and going down and
the violence, and still with the talent the future, and
there's a lot of talents still, what do you think
that the current state of Southern Rap is.
Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Welcome home, Welcome home.
Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Honestly, what we don't understand, bro, is that we are
all different, and what we can't do is do the
same thing our parents did to us. Think about it
every generation. It happens in basketball. I say this, bro,
and I hope y'all feel me on this. Bro. Like
most people, I really believe if you're gonna have a
goat conversation, that we should all sit down in the
room enough of us and say what are the goidelines?
(01:06:22):
Let's say what the godelines are? Because most people are
just emotional about who that they who they love when
they was a child, really, but they really don't have
no Is it about championships? Is it about influence? Is
it about what is it really about?
Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
That's the only two things, I mean three things peers,
influence and championship.
Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
So if we're going to say that, we have to
I believe in any debate we have to agree on
something before we disagree. What do we agree on? So
we'll have a baseline if it's If it's not, then
it's emotional. The reason why people don't really want to
get godelines because then it may not be none of
the people that we like, you know what I'm saying,
Because then we can go to those Boston teams, Bro,
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we can go to those early LA teams that people
don't ever talk about Bro. So for me in the South, Bro,
it's just really man about realizing that we all have
different perspective. Our perspectives are different. These kids getting information
from all around the world everywhere, the pressure that is
on them, it's different, Bro, Their brains move in a
(01:07:22):
different way. So for me, BRO, it's really just about
and think about it. Let's just really be honest because
people my age won't, they won't admit this. Everybody from
my generation wasn't fucking dope. There was a lot of
whack ass niggas that was Yeah, So bro, like, just
sit back and listen to the music and if you
(01:07:42):
don't like it, shut the fuck up. And what most
people won't do, if you really don't like it and
make better music, then you can't do that. You can't
do that. Everybody want to have a motherfucking opinion about
shit that they can't do, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
So, like, Bro, that was the criteria to talk ship.
A lot of people will be able to say nothing. Yeah,
that's they only hate what they can't be You you
had that credentials to speak on something. She would be quiet.
I'm gonna give you some Southern names. Tell me the
first memory or story that may come to mind. Pimps,
Trim damn Bro, rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
I wanted to be upbeat. I wanted to be upbeat man.
Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
But now give a summary. We got some other people.
It's gonna get your beat.
Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
But but Pimp call me and I didn't pick up
the phone, and then he died. And then I went
back and listened to the voice. Man lax, gonna pick
me up. You know you can't help. But they because
one thing, one thing about me and Pimp that I
don't talk about much. Pimp never talked bullshit with me ever.
Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
We never talked about women, We never talked about drugs.
It was always the next level. And Pimp was really
about to do some amazing shit, Like if you really
go back and listen to that last UGK album, they
were shifting. Bro. Pimp just told me, it's gonna take
me a little bit longer, Banner, because like Bro, I
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got on from real niggas, bitches and hustlers and dope
dealers Banner, so that I have to slowly take them
along with me. Nip was the same way. He understood
that there was a certain culture that he had. He
couldn't walk off and leave, Bro. And so for me, Bro,
thinking about that day, Bro, is it stay on my mind?
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And I just got to the point about three years ago. Well,
I can't blame myself for that. I can't, you know,
it just it just happened. But what I will say, man,
is that something that I know most people won't talk about.
Pimp was one of the funniest motherfuckers on Earth, Earth
when I tell you, Earth, when I tell you, but
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he all, he would always say.
Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Truly funny dude, and him, I'm talking about what I try.
Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
And man, he would always say, better don't let these
niggas know you, though, he said, because if they really
know you, you have to hurt them. Because people take
being kind and fuck being funny. It takes that as
a weakness where we from and you end up literally
having to take the motherfucker off this earth. But Pimp
was so fucking him and fucking three six Mafia, like
(01:10:24):
you wouldn't believe how kind of one the same too,
but not a joke, not a joke at all, nothing
that lasted, but naturally funny and naturally good people.
Speaker 5 (01:10:35):
And when Pim died, I'm on the way to his
mom's funeralom Bun called me, oh wow on the way
from the Bay to San Francisco, right to San Francisco,
right Sacramento. I'm from the Bay of Sacramento driving up
and pimp called me. I mean Bun called me on
the phone while he was driving his mom field.
Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Bro, I crazy day and I remember that like yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Very batter things and zachermano.
Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
That could be anything. Wayne, Oh, Wayne, all right, just
dropped the Carter six. He's still in Sacramento right now.
Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
That's okay, Wayne, Wayne told me the most admirable. I
got so many stories, Wayne, I tell you.
Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Wayne.
Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
So when I did La La Lala actually from the
car to three was actually for Shrek three and I
was working on that and Wayne was. Wayne is one
of the few people man where he loves music so much. Wayne.
If you go back and listen to a lot of
the freestyles that people like, some of those were my beats.
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Wayne was really a fan of me musically as an artist, Bro,
And that felt good. Wayne was smoker blunt. This is
the craziest shit. Put his head in the big ass
cone of the speaker. Y'all know how shit that how
loud that shit is put his head in the speaker,
smoke a whole blunt and say, play all your beats.
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I wanna hear all of them. And I would play
every beat, and I got hundreds of thousands of beats.
Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
He said, play all the motherfuckers that's on your laptop.
But Wayne heard la la, and he said, who that
for a banner? I said, I was for Shrek. Wayne said,
fuck Shrenk. You know what, what?
Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Fuck Shank?
Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
And that's how that ti oh man Ti I is
a hard one, bro, because through every iteration of my career,
we've been tied together. And he's one of the few people,
bro that I really honestly think give a fuck about me.
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I don't really think most people care. They say that
they're cold, but most people really don't. Man, all right,
I'll tell y'alle, this is a quick one. I know
this ain't the normal one, but this just happened. So
me and me and Tip working on some music, and
so we go outside and there's a slight little ruckus
(01:13:09):
outside and then I see Tip, you know, getting in it,
and so, shit, nigga, what I look at Tip? I said, brother,
you all right? He looked back at me and say shit,
are you all right? I was like, all right, bro,
and took my ass home. But I tell you Tip,
(01:13:29):
I talked to Tip and Tip. I told Tip Man
that he literally changed my life with this.
Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
I didn't like the way that hip hop handled him,
you know, over the last situation. And you know, he
lost his movie deals and lost a lot of money, bro,
And black folks think just because we have money, it
don't really matter what happened to us, and that shit
ain't cool. And so I talked about it when I
was on Nori in them show, but I felt bad
(01:13:59):
at it. It took me so long to say anything
about it. So I told him, man, like I apologize, bro,
that it took so long. He was like, better fuck
that shit. He was like, Bro, you know the folks
trying to give me thirty years, the fuck about the
rest of that shit, Bro, I'm free And I never
thought about it like that.
Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Sometimes we get so caught into all of this shit,
and it's a blessing that we just alive from the
where the fuck we frying? Bro, Just to be breathing sometimes, Bro,
when we pray, we always praying for something and not
thanking God for our vision. But the ability to steal
walk Bro, for you to know and have a healthy
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relationship with your children, Bro, you know what I'm saying,
for us to just be able to exist. Do you
know how many motherfuckers got swallowed? Bro, No, literally got swallowed,
like you know they mom or dad could have shows. Yeah,
(01:15:00):
Boosy Boosy, Oh Man Boosy. To me, there's three people
that you can't deny their effect on. When they came out,
Little Boosy, g Z and Master p. There was something else, Bro,
when they came out a lot of us, it took
us a minute to sort of bubble and we sort
(01:15:22):
of had like the motherfuckers spread like like wildfire. And yeah,
Bro like Boosy Bro was such a people from other
places don't understand like how hot that motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Was was but still at this a still has a cult.
Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Yeah, and they made man what and and and the
thing was Bro that Boosy and what's crazy. Pimp had
been talking to me about Boosy before anybody knew who
he was. Web like Pimp Son and Bro like man
to even see the father that he's become Bro and
(01:16:06):
the fact that he's not afraid like Bro. People don't
listen to what Boosy actually has to say. Booseye reminds
me sometimes of Kevin Samuels, Bro, Like if you take
the emotions away from what they're saying, Bro, he's saying
some shit that y'all really really need to listen to. Bro.
And I'm just proud of him, man, of his growth
(01:16:27):
because Boosie didn't give a fuck. I went to school
in ben Ruge, man Ruge and Jackson, Mississippi are very similar.
That's places where motherfuckers come to college and come you know,
the party, and go to LSU guns and come back
in the fucking casket. Like Boosey ain't no motherfucking joke, Bro.
So for him to become the businessman that he is,
(01:16:48):
to become entertainer the father that he is man. And
one thing that I'm happy about Boocy is similar to you, Bro.
I see Boosy at them fucking Atlanta Hawk's.
Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Game having the time is life.
Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
That motherfucker having the best time in his life. And
he said it when he had that same situation, Like, Bro,
when I got out of prison, he was like, fuck that,
I'm gonna have fun. Bro. Think about how blessed we
are Bro, I did not enjoy my career, bro, ask Scott.
I just started smiling. I didn't have fun though. I
was so serious, bro, and I was so scared of
fucking it up, Like I hailed the ball manny and
(01:17:24):
I didn't even bounce the motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
You missed the journey. Journey is the best part.
Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
But it ain't over with. To tell his motherfucker's mouth
out good.
Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
What transition to acting?
Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Acting?
Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
You started rapping a lot about how movie movie business
money is different.
Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Talk about that.
Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
The cool thing about it about movies is that if
you get the project, the money is there. You know
what I'm saying. I'm so used to Okay, you gotta
I'm doing a.
Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Rod for free next week.
Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
Really getting my reps up so you can't so I
can have an acting career so for you, so you
can't say I don't have one yet.
Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Bro, All we gotta all we got no no, no,
I'm serious, B All we gotta do is make our
own ship. I'm down with that too, yeah, Bro, Because
this is the one thing, bro, that I do hate
about my peers.
Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
We spend money on cars. We spend money on all
of this high price, high price clothes. I believe in
spending money on me. Like everybody talk about investing, investing
with investing your own ship. Look at what y'all to build, bro.
For believing in yourself. Bro, then you ain't got to
worry about auditioning. All you got to do is go
to acting school and make sure that you got your
(01:18:27):
reps up, bro. But then make it shoot your own ship.
Fuck waiting waiting on them? Man, never come to say.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
I told I'm shooting my own document. And we're not
talking about that that uh, small porn. We're talking about
like real feature.
Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Hilarious.
Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
I haven't. I haven't auditioned for porn yet. You ain't
have to. I haven't this district for yet.
Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
That's hilarious. No, man, but I'll tell you this.
Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
I just go along with the jokes now because I
know they come from anywhere I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
I don't talk about this much, bro, But I actually
based my my acting career off ice Cube. It makes
sense that a lot of people don't know that man,
Like people didn't see him as an A list star.
He saw himself and he made it bro. And then
what he did was he was so successful with Friday
they couldn't come to him with no bullshit because he
(01:19:16):
had the numbers. Where white people fuck us up a
lot of times they talk strictly business. We're spiritual people
and we talk about how dope shit is and they
don't give a fuck about that. How many asses can
you put in the seat where Ice Cube showed them?
I can put ninety two million asses in the seat.
So if you ain't paying me at least half of that,
get the fuck on. You know what I'm saying, And
(01:19:39):
so like, bro Like, that's why I created a banner vision.
A banner vision comes from cute vision and a five
call quest. It's a banner vision and so man like
for me, bro Like, they don't see us as superheroes,
but I do. And the thing is, Bro, all our
asks is people work on their craft man as hard
(01:19:59):
as they possibly can. Bro. At least a deck the actor, Bro,
I mean the comedian Bro is one of my really
tight homies, Broe. And at least Ad taught me something, Bro,
And I really believe y'all to a feel this Bro.
He changed my life, he said, Banner Bro, I don't
fuck with these niggas, he said, And they don't fuck
(01:20:22):
with me, and I started wondering, like, Bro, why don't
fit in? Don't I don't fuck with nobody but with threats?
Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Oh yeah, one thing, bro, with all of this AI ship,
and one thing you can't fake. It's authenticity and realness.
Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
That's why they're scared of you too. And then the
fact that you ain't just talking you can do something too,
and with some big old niggros Bro.
Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
A lot of frustrations building.
Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Yeah, but what we all gonna do, Bro, is create
our own situation, collect our fans, bro, and now all
we have to start doing is as a banner vision
grows what y'all doing. We just gotta fuck with each other,
have fun.
Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Bro, at least dig to that. My boy.
Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
He always telling the team, Man, we ain't got to
reinvent the wheel. There's a lot of the motherfuckers out
here doing it.
Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
Yeah, you've been successful in every medium of art. What
are the trades needed to succeed in the project, regardless
of the medium dealing? That's too many big words and
one question for that.
Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
But I was actually really dope. But you did a
good job.
Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
But I don't know on the inside and the inside
I was mad in the inside.
Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
I was struggling.
Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
I read I read it.
Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
I didn't start doing nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Don't don't let the editor try, but listen to this.
I'm serious, Bro, you don't broke there. Other people judged
that ship. I used to do that ship as an actor,
and I was starting. You know I can handle That's
why he did it. You know you did a great
I was thoroughly impressed.
Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
I'm impressing out me get myself.
Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
I said a whole bunch of big words in one
sentence and didn't suck it up.
Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Man, I'm growing.
Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
I was saying sears to that. I would say, because
I would say consistency, Bro, like one thing that I
don't want these kids to know where you gotta practice.
You gotta fucking practice.
Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Again, Bro, I tell people that that's the reason why
I love stuff so much. Bro, It's because from if
you think about nature and nurture. Bro. He didn't have it, Bro,
like he was short, had bad ankles. Bro. Come from
a small college. He had to bust his fucking ass,
Bro and get them fucking rep see in every fucking
(01:22:31):
day still to this fucking day.
Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
And that's how I had to be from Mississippi. Bro,
I had to bust my fucking ass, and kids don't
understand how hard broke. I've been in acting school. A
lot of people don't know this. Bro. When my homeboys
was buying chains and cars and shit. Bro, a lot
of my money went to for flights coming to LA.
I came to LA every fucking week. Now, if I
knew what I knew now, I should have bought an
(01:22:53):
apartment out here for the amount of money. But I
didn't have nobody to teach me that I was flying
to LA going to acting school. I've been in acting school.
It's like a pimp, bro. Really, yeah, I'm not fucking
I'm not playing bro because I didn't. I didn't want
people to say. I didn't want people say I got
it just because I was a rapper. I didn't want
people to say. And then I take this series man,
(01:23:15):
and I know I shouldn't, but Bro, I know how
hard people work every day just to be an actor.
So if I'm gonna take your spot, BRO, I want
to be able to look in your eyes say, Nigga,
I'm just better than earned it, and I look better.
They already know that when they look at me, but
like I want them to know that I'm better.
Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
Quick hitters.
Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
First thing to come to mind. Let us know one
album with no skips that you're listening.
Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Did you listen to uh ill matic?
Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Childhood Crush?
Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Childhood Crush? What's the dark skinned black girl from Dead
Presidents that came out to trash?
Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Shoot? Oh my god, good call, good call.
Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Y'all got.
Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Right, y'all got lotions? Top five producers in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Top five producers. Oh that's a hard one, bro. That's
a hard one for me because as a Southerner, I
know that Southern producers don't get their light.
Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
But if I'm being like, honest, let's go top five
Southern producers, then.
Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
No, We'll keep the question because that gives me an
opportunity to put my folks over that fields awesome. I
would say Dungeon Family as a whole. I would say Neptunes,
not just for real Neptunes together. Yeah, when they were
doing that crazy synthetic.
Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
I see. That's hard, bro, because there's no way that
you can't say doctor Dre, no way in hell that
I can't gotta you gotta say that. But I naturally
want to say battle Cap. You know what I'm saying
like I want because I'm a hip hop historian, Bro,
(01:25:09):
and then I want to say, just blade, you know
what I'm saying. Timberland, you have to say you know?
But then for me, for me, you can't. You cannot
say Kelsey and beats by the Pound just because of
(01:25:30):
the influence. And he changed music, He changed the way
people literally put out music.
Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Then then how can you dare not say many Fresh?
He was alone? Bro? People don't get see. People are
not used to people articulate enough to be able to
express why they feel the way that they feel.
Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
He did that ship alone. Do you know how hard
it is? Bro? In the environments that he had to record,
You don't talk about that ship Bro? Literally, Bro, when
I went to do the Car to three and this
don't had nothing to do with with with Manny, but
it has to do with the situation.
Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
What was the I forgot the studio.
Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
They took over in Miami, but they took over the
whole studio, Bro, and Nigros was standing outside on the
third and second floor, Bro, like literally outside on the
on the windows. I never it took over the whole
fucking studio.
Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
People don't know the ship that we go through studio
you talking about, Yeah, but those are my those are
those are summer my. It's my favorite. Shout out to
bun Bee and this verse on murder. I want to
say that I think that's.
Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
One of the most will It's bun Bee bitch and
I'm the king of moving chickens.
Speaker 5 (01:26:49):
Got the finger lickings my pocket sticky.
Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
I'm sicking, nick when I'll be clicking.
Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Now, take a look at the bigges Nigga my liquor
swigger playing.
Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
Hey that this nigga figure might half trigger give her
one of your shaken quick niggas niggast then the.
Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
River huh yeah, yeah that I like. All Right, Okay,
one actor you wish too, you could work with one actors.
Here's to you, oh Man actress, act actress.
Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Oh Man. Michael B. Jordan's an Iris album.
Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
The reason is because I know both of them, and
I like, I like a second I haven't worked with
Michael B. Jordan, but I like a second run at
it now that I am who I am a little
more seasoned. Yep, yeah yeah yeah, so you're pulling it
together yep yeah yeah yeah, And it's crazy, bro we
(01:27:49):
talking about basketball. We most of us used to play
basketball at the twenty four hour Fitness or sub sat
and Vine, okay and subseat and Vine, And like Michael B.
Jordan's Chris Brown, Corey Halk Pooch Hall, like all of
us used to while we were waiting for auditions, you
(01:28:11):
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
And so.
Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
To be able to see him rise and do what
he's doing now, and especially with the stuff that he's
doing with Coogler bro I would love to to to
be a part of.
Speaker 5 (01:28:23):
That right in that if you could see one guest
on our show, who would it be?
Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
But you have to help us get your answer on
the show.
Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
One person that I would like, have y'all had, have
y'all had Chris on here yet? Chris Brown?
Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
No good? Let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Let me tell you why.
Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
I believe that's a good that's a good one for
one of the reasons later look the ladies like, please
don't do that, Please don't do that.
Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
Let me tell you why, but go ahead. I think
that one of the reasons why I created one of
my shows was because of what they did to Chris.
You know, he never really got an opportunity to be
in a space where he can articulate hisself and the
shit that he went through, because they are parts of
(01:29:10):
his story that I know about for sure, but it's
his place, the place to talk about another man shit, Bro.
But I love for him to be in the space
where I know he's protected and I know y'all would
protect it, and it would give him an opportunity to speak.
Chris Brown is literally one of the most talented people,
if I'm not the most val person I've ever worked
(01:29:32):
with in my whole entire life. And I really think
that Bro just always needed more men around him. Not niggas,
not male, but Bro, he just needed more men. And
the type of men that you all are, y'all don't
need nothing from him. Y'all are the type of being
that I want to see my little brother around. And
he's one of the few people in this game that
(01:29:55):
I ever really cared about, you know what I'm saying.
And I've watched him be railroaded, and something that people
don't talk about that I'm going to say on this show,
it's Chris Brown. Never Ever, he could have condemned a
lot of people. He never threw nobody. Yeah, yeah, ever,
he could have thrown a lot of niggas under the bus,
(01:30:18):
and he never did kept his mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Well, see if you heard that from your big brother.
So we're gonna make sure we cut.
Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
Well, Dave Man.
Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
We appreciate you, and obviously before we get you out
of here. I mean, it's been a pleasure to see
just again where you came from, for your music and
what you've evolved into. And I think every day, whatever
our journey is, we're trying to get better. But you've
always been one of those rare positive influences and speaking
for the culture, always putting other people first. But it's
(01:30:50):
just refreshing to hear people like you speak. I was
excited about the interview just because I think you speak
so much life, and I think that's very important in
today's day and age, because we're surrounded by so much negativity. Man,
So thank you for your time. Continue blessings if you
if you got an extra role for Jack on any
kind of movie set at Banner Vision, let him know
he's really manager.
Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
He'd be joking, but he really nobody want to see
any way more than him. Bro, Man, don't take the jokes.
I know y'all see joke. On me all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Nobody want to know only jokeuse I love him. It's
like when the coach yells at you because he loves you.
You don't anyway, man, that's a rap. David Banner all
the Smoke. You can catch us on all the Smoke productions,
YouTube and the DraftKings Network.
Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
Feel so.
Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
Mm hmmm
Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Mm hmm
Welcome back, all the smoke, l a brother Nadale ready
to be exact nic See, I like your floral pad.
We're contrasting a little bit today. You're with the florals
with the tired eyes. He's with the army fatigue. Man,
this is long overdue, but like you said, it's always time.
It's always the right timing. Our guy Gino had picked
you up today. Yeah, and you guys had a brief
(00:20):
conversation about you just being ready to get up out
of here. Overall, first of all, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Dave Man, thank you, ah Man, my brother thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Right would talk to us about the root of your
guys conversation?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, can I say something before we start?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Man, I say you should have let him do this?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Do that.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I do want to say something man. It's very important
to me.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I try to make sure that we show proper respect
for each other because in our culture, when we have
problems with people, we loud.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Then when we have.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
True respect and admiration for each other, we don't say
anything or we whisper. You understand what I'm saying. Like, Bro,
you all have done something in sports man and have
given our coaching people from our coach who really from
it a voice in a way that's so unapologetic, bro,
but so needed, you know. And to a certain degree,
some people and we don't have to call no names,
(01:19):
have warped it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Y'all do what y'all do, Bro, but it has a
certain level of honor, has a certain level of respect,
bro like, and I'm so so so so can I say,
fucking y'all, I'm so fucking proud of y'all, dude, and
as a man, Bro, I want y'all to know that
bro and y'all both have done it in different ways, man,
And so for you all to give other people jobs,
(01:42):
give other people ways, you know, because a lot of times, Bro,
when we successful, we were just talking about how a
lot of people hower og og. But I'm actually just starting, Bro,
I'm about to do all action films bro. Like, who
would have ever ever thought that? Man? And I'm so
fucking happy, and so I wanted to tell y'all man like,
you both have grown up in front of each other
(02:05):
because I got two questions for both of y'all. I
got a question for each one of y'all that I
think y'all fans would benefit from But you know, man,
just just thank you all for representing the culture and
then represent those of us who are hot heads. Like Bro,
it took me, took me almost thirty years. Bro, that
(02:25):
David bannershit didn't come from rapping.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I wanted to ask you that because I mean, obviously
a fan of your music early on, not really knowing
you've been getting a chance to know you over the
last handful of years. Your energy and your positivity is different.
When did that shift? And obviously you brought it up.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, I'll answer your question if you answer mine first. Bro,
something Bro, something something. I always wanted to ask you
this and it sort of fucked up. Then I'm gonna
ask you this on camera. But Bro, something something happened
to you that changed your bro in my life, in life,
it's something that something happened, Bro, and it to a
(03:02):
certain degree. Bro, I'm just seeing you get it back.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Took your happiness away? Bro, Like what happened to you? Bro? Man,
if you don't mind.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
No, I don't mind. I mean it's just been a journey.
I think my you know, my my journey has been
a very public journey, and I think you know, obviously
growing up with two parents that were into drugs but functioning,
you know, facing racism. I just always had a real
chip on my shoulder and then had to grind to
make the league. So I think there was always maybe
a chip, but also a misconception of who I was
(03:32):
as a person as I continue to grow, you know,
just figuring this life out as we go, you know
what I mean. Obviously fail relationships and kids and and
trouble on and off the court. But I think trips
at the four, Yeah, it wasn't even long. It was
only fifteen minutes. Yeah. No, But again, I think there's
(03:55):
a obviously a reputation's earned, whether good or bad. And
I think some of my reputation has earned, but I
think some of it's almost kind of like mystified, almost
to an urban legend type status. At the end of
the day. I mean, my team knows me, stacks known
me for a long time. Like I'm a real chilled out,
down to earth, regular person who like wears the emotions.
(04:15):
And you know, my life is unfolded in front of
the world because I chose twice to have my family
on reality television, you know what I mean. So I
give that people an opportunity to really have that inside
looks so at the end of the day, I mean,
there's always a ton of judgment and opinions on situations,
but I just, you know, just day by day try
to improve as a man and grow. And you said,
(04:37):
I have my happiness back. Now you can feel it. Yeah,
that's good. That's sitting there. It's getting feeling again. I mean,
it's yeah, yeah, see it. I'm serious in my bright colors. Yeah, no,
it's again. It's just I wear my life on my sleeve,
you know. Me said, You're gonna ride the good and
the bad with me. I won't let it affect my day.
But it's funny you said that because maybe, like a
(04:58):
month ago, my six year old was like, damn are
you said? And I just thought I had a regular
face watching TV, you know what I mean. So I
definitely feel it. Just a lot of shit going on.
But I'm on this new spiritual journey and I just
think day by day, I'm getting stronger and improving.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Can I clear up something on youall platform?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Please?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Somebody told me yesterday they was like, man, well not yesterday.
A couple weeks ago, it was like banner like sometimes
it seems like you're so mad, and you had this
chip on your shoulder similar to you. And then I
thought about something and it pissed me off. I said,
tell me the only time I get mad, And then
it was like, damn when people fucking with black folks,
(05:36):
So only get mad over your ass. Like, we have
good lives. Actually we could fall back. I'm near the
rest of our life and be very fucking irresponsible. But like,
my anger only comes about people mistreating my people. Bro,
That's the only thing that fucking make me mad. Besides that, Bro,
I have an awesome fucking life and we're a big guy,
(05:58):
so most people ain't gonna do or say shit to
us in our face anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
That so now y'all question, bro, like, how do you
deal with man? Like knowing because I'm watching man, how
responsible you becoming with your anger? Because I deal with
anger issues like both of you all do, and like
when people don't understand, mine comes through constant prayer, constant meditation.
(06:23):
I do a lot of meditation and a lot of
fucking therapy. You know what I'm saying. It's funny because
one of my therapists is white and I being there,
like the fucking white phones to the white dude. That's
the craziest shit. But but like, bro, like, how do
you deal with knowing that you have a certain amount
of influence. I know who you are, a certain amount
(06:45):
of calls that you can make. We just got off
the phone and one of them people and a lot
of times, bro Like, you have to love people more
than they love themselves. Bro Like, I'm watching how you
navigate that. Where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I think I didn't got to the point where you know,
I still have crazy thoughts who want to do crazy
ship trust me go, I ain't through working with me yet.
But I love the people like my team and people
who who who believe in me, who I'm responsible for.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
So I've grown to know that.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
If if I fall, they all all you know what
I'm saying everything, So I don't, like I told I said,
I'm not gonna be the person my attitude now, I'm
not gonna be the person.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
To fuck it up.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
You know what I'm saying for nobody, especially the people
that's depending on me. So that's I think now. You know,
perfect example, somebody says something about me and George Fullard recently, No,
you know, I normally.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Anything somebody says, I'm jumping on this.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I didn't say nothing, you know what I'm saying, because
I know that person is trying to bait me to
say they name. You know what I'm saying, And I
know I saw somebody. By sawing the person, they wouldn't
say nothing, you know what I'm saying. But just because
I have people depending on me and the responsibilities responsibilities
I have, I make better decisions. But I want to
(07:57):
say something to about what you're saying about him. I
think he's I think people don't understand the responsibility that
Matt has on the shoulders with this company, with family,
Like it's a lot that he's done and he's built.
He has a big role in where our company is today.
You're giving us our props. He has a big part
of that. So people don't understand what all the bullshit
they hear read, they don't understand the responsibility and things
(08:19):
he's carrying and the things he's doing for all of us,
not just his family. He has all of us, this
whole company on the shoulders, you know what I'm saying.
So to see him get his happiness back, but it's
good for all of us to see. But at the
same time, he got a lot, he got a lot
of dealing with with this company and family and stuff
like that. So people don't see that, you know what
I'm saying. They just see the bullshit that people read,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm just giving you
a side of my brother. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I love I love him regardless, you know what I'm saying,
good and bad.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But and I think it's very powerful because we don't
get to see that in Americas, y'all brotherhood. I don't
know if y'all know how important it is because if
you even think as a rapper, there's not many of
us who love rap groups and they still together right
barely ever see that Man Dayla Soul is one of
the only groups that I know of that real, real
(09:04):
lives stayed together. So it's a mischief in the Bay Area,
but it's not too many of them. So like kids
are actually looking at y'all brotherhood, and sometimes I'm realizing
that we the concept of us is actually bigger than
bigger in who we are as human beings.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Totally we didn't. You know what's funny is it's starting
this show. It was never That wasn't my thought process.
That wasn't either of our thought process. We didn't really
know what we had we and we wanted to build
a safe space. But in the same time, to your sentiment,
it was encouraging our brothers and sisters do the same.
We jumped in this shit. There was maybe two or
three of us. Now there's hundreds of you know, similar
(09:43):
talking about sports and shooting the shit. But that was
never our mindset. But to to you know, the highest
human acts is to inspire, you know what I mean.
So I think that's something and obviously having a voice
that is respected in the space is something we don't
take for granted. I think you know, you saw Stack
and I play our career and haters to love us.
We went about it the way we went about it,
(10:03):
and I think we've been able to polish that version
of our athletic self into this next phase of business
and have the right business acremen to be able to
still have the same success, if not more. I think
we're both you know, obviously he was a better score
that we were both role players to an extent, you
know what I mean for our careers and to be
able to have the success we've had post career and
(10:24):
to almost have our second act just as big, if
not bigger than our first act is crazy. You know
obviously you know the march he led was heard around
the world, you know what I mean. To have a
voice that carries that far and is respected that far
is a huge responsibility. So I think we've both grown
post career in that space understanding the responsibility that has
(10:45):
been bestowed upon us.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And I don't think any of you all can talk
about too many men or women and had to respect
in the hood the way that you all do. But
then it's able to deal, maneuver and navigate that corporate space, yeah,
the way that y'all have.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You know, I think I've been in and Jack to
me is starting to kind of he can do it.
He just had to be pushed, I think. But I've
always proud of myself on being able to be in there.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Jack don't give a fuck me.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He's starting to.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
In the past, he hasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
There's all that smoke.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I want to stand.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I want to stand the hood twenty four seven. But
I'm starting I'm starting to come about the hood now.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, but I think in the past, but I mean
again to your point, to be respected and be in
a in a in a dangerous space, but feel safe
and be safe and respected by those peers, and but
then also be a call to the White House. You'll
also be in these Disney buildings to also start our
own company. There's not too many people that have that
type of versatility. But I think the reason why we
have that, we had it and we have it even
(11:49):
more now is because we stay true.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
And you own your own shit huge, Like I've been
talking about that, like we got to start back putting
out things America has convinced us. Did you talk, Talk Talk.
One of the reasons why I don't have a podcast
anymore is because I think it's too many niggas talking.
I really do. It's too many motherfuckers un in their
mouth that's not qualified and I ain't saying nothing. That's why
(12:11):
I respect y'all so much. Mother fuck can't tell y'all
sit about basketball, you lived it, you know. One of
the reasons why I stopped producing as much as I
did was because there was a white an r He
was twenty three years old and came to me talking
about southern music. Excuse me, bitch, you can't tell me
about no fucking Southern music. Maybe maybe R and B. Okay,
(12:32):
maybe I take that, maybe country, maybe Dad. But for
you to feel comfortable enough in my culture to think
that you can tell somebody whether I had a big
part to do with it or a small part, but
somebody that really was in the trenches doing this shit
for real, you feel comfortable enough to even say anything.
That's a problem. I got a problem with that. But
(12:53):
where the blessing comes in is I used to want
to do something. Now I understand that David Banner as
a concert up. People want you to go to jail.
People want you to touch them so they can sue you.
What I'm realizing is that our anger is actually the
devil's remote control because once it let go, both all
of us are examples and when that shit went way wrong, yep.
(13:16):
But the blessed part is that we can live in it.
Though it's one thing. Once I decide to go, it's gone.
I mean, it just is what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, So when did that switch over happen? Though? Like
I said, we've kind of our journey's kind of played
out more on television because we you know, played sports.
But when did your kind of that switch flip to
Obviously it's still in me, but I understand it's bigger
than me now.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I used to I used to be a really wild dude.
I'm actually preparing to do a travel show and where
people don't know, bro, I jump out of airplanes. I
used to do all of my own stunts.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You do white people all.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
That, well, well, well well, well, well, well all humans
have a want to tell that's death in danger. But
the fact that black people us just living on this
earth is dangerous. It's the reason why we don't. We
could just go out in the hood and get that
brush that y'all get from jumping out of motherfucking plane.
But as a CEO, I always wanted to know, like
(14:16):
what the fuck why these white boys do that shit?
Like what is it? And I realized when I jumped
out a plane for the first time, I had a
meeting because I did the end. I did the music
for the international release of the A Class for Mercedes
Beings one year, and I was really nervous about talking
to the CFO of Mercedes Bears after I jumped out
(14:38):
that plane and looked looked at death the way man.
Fuck that dude. Yeah, Like, I ain't put on these
draws the same way I do. And I think that
that is the reason why I started testing those boundaries.
If I can swim with a shark, I can definitely
swim with your black ass.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm dead serious.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And I just realized, man that instead of think about this, bro,
I think about this in training because a lot of
my friends ask me why do I train so hard
in the gym and still run and fight and do
the things that I do. I'm asking, as fuck I am.
I get a ship over here, I'm probably gonna lead
(15:20):
it in a second. That's what my homie said when
I got here. He's like, man, watch you like you've
been eating powdered downnuts. Like but but honestly, though, I
learned that if, if, when, when mountains and hills come,
(15:43):
if you set artificial ones in your life, then it
won't shock you when life brings. You're ready, stay away,
stay around danger. People always say that, bro, stay around
the hood and with the hood, then you ain't never
got to go back home because you never really left,
you know. And I'm just grateful. One thing that I
can say, bro, is that I'm one of the few
(16:04):
people that hip hop allowed to grow up. Most people
want you to stay exactly who you are, you know,
similar to how they do Marriy J. Blige and Anthony Hamilton.
Some people they don't want to see us happy. They
don't want to see us move to that next left.
They want to keep y'all mad, you know what I'm saying.
(16:25):
And so for me, Bro, I'm just grateful that in
all of this time, Bro, they allowed me to grow up.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's a blessing. Back to my original question that just
blew by two of your questions, But I want to know,
I mean, because again you're so tapped into kind of
just life and culture and policy. You mentioned being ready
to just get up out of here. It's got to
that point for you feel like.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
No, what happened with me is I realized, Bro, that
for me and my spirituality, God showed me that I
am the God of my reality. And I think that's
the reason why we go through depression. That's the only
reason why I consider that they may may be a
heaven a hell is because we make choices. Other animals
(17:13):
don't have the opportunity to make a choice, right, So
what I realize is that if you really think about it,
bro especially with our influence, like let's say let's pick
a place Hawaii, right, well, for me, let's say Bali.
I like Bali, all right, you can either let Bali
be your place that you go vacation and then I
(17:35):
for me go back to Atlanta, right or since we
got money in influence, might not allow Bali to be
our home and then fly back to Atlanta to do work. Literally,
so if you spend let's say in a month, if
it's thirty days in a month, you spend twenty eight
days in Atlanta working and two days in Bali, right, well,
(17:55):
then why not spend two days in Atlanta working? You
know what I'm saying, We actually can do that. And
what they do to black people is they make us
feel like our worth is connected with how hard we
fucking work. I'm learning it's not about working hard, it's
about thinking hard and setting up systems. You all, if
(18:15):
you chose to, you can now put youngsters in these
seats and then y'all can go set up other systems
like this and just check on your systems. But we
feel like if we're not working every day, think about
Oprah there was a time in Oprah's career if she
wasn't on every fucking cover of every magazine, it wasn't popping.
If she wasn't in every movie. Bro, that's high priced slavery.
(18:39):
If you really really think about it, BRO, we should
be thinking dog. We should be on the beach. Bro,
like you all set, I just gotta be honest with y'all.
I'm high as fuck. I wouldn't have done this in
any other setting, Bro, but like, no, like y'all, these
ain't my shoes. I left my shoes and I was like,
(19:01):
I knew that I was taking you bitches a trip
on that, but seriously, Bro, I walked in and I
felt comfortable enough to be like, hey, Bro, I left
my shoes.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Bro, I got some I thought that motherfuckers went with
your fit.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I thought that was you.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think that your But seriously, that's the environment that
you are set man and and me. Bro. I just
this is very personal, BRO. Like I haven't treated my eye,
I don't treat myself well. I fight for everybody else
because I know how it feels to be for Mississippi.
(19:36):
You know, you know how it feels to be for
p a Bro.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Tell I tell him what I told your stairs when
I when I first saw you, because we talked all
the time. First thing I said to him what I said, Bro,
you're getting risk and I know what he's doing. I
know how you been moving around. I know I know
the blessings that's coming this way and he trying to
he moving there. When as soon as I seen him today,
the first thing I said to him my first words, Bro,
you get some resk.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Actually because I know it, actually said you want some weed.
Now you didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I know. I say that is not smoke.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
That's the second thing you say.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Just joking.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
But seriously, y'all, Like, I don't I don't treat myself well, bro,
And I'm learning. My therapist told me this, Bro. My
therapist said, you always talking about black people, black people,
black people. He said, well, you black, so why don't
you treat yourself the way you want to see black
people treat it? And I was like, fuck, I damn
sure do you know what I'm saying? And so like
now I do I do myself better?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Y'all?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You know me, bro, I never won't know all this
ship at the at the.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I'm like, you got a style its not Brother.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I'm telling you motherfucker's mouth. I told him ithert that.
I was like, Bro, like, you can't offer me ten
thousand dollars my outfit?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Nine? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
How to give me?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
You?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
How to give me eighty?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You feel me?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
People treat you how you treat yourself? You understand what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
That's interesting too, because I've always been a shirt off
the back, giver, provider, push and neglect myself when I'm
actually the one that's really in control of everything around me, Bron,
interesting aspect.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
We need you here, We need you to love yourself.
So listen to me, y'all. I usually don't talk about
this kind of stuff, but this environment makes me feel comfortable.
If God was standing over there when you pray, where
would you look over there? Where God is right? You
know why you close your eyes. You close your eyes
(21:28):
because you're actually praying inward. If people knew where God
actually was, That's why so hard for black people to
find God, because we can't believe that God is actually
inside of us. So if we really thought about that, Bro,
we would treat our bodies better. Like Bro, the shit
that I eat. I just came back from Columbia doing
(21:50):
stem cell bio x because of what you said. I
was so embarrassed, BRO, when you asked me the question,
because I know I should be sleeping more and I
get I get on my wheel, bro, because sometime we
don't we can't even believe that we that blessed. We
should know it, We should know that we deserve this. Bro.
As hard as you all work, you deserve to live better.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And thank you for allowing us to meet your children.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Broh Man.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I enjoy your kids like I'm watching TV. God, that's
just so fucking dope and they so free. Yeah, Like
I wish that's once one of my dreams, BRO, that
if my children grew up. I don't want them to
be ass wholes, but if they chose to be and
they had that kind of freedom without pushing it on
other people and being oppressive, And I hope for my
(22:36):
children to be free, bro. And you're allowing that for
your kids.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
You want your twins to be burnt out like his
it was about thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I enjoy them, Bro, I really do that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You've been out spoken about you know, I'm saying this
isn't the best time right now for our black community
and being poor and stuff needing to band together? Why
is that such an issue in our communities?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
You feel, well, actually, I think it's the best time.
I think it's the best time because America has clearly
shown us that we're not crazy. You remember the stuff
we used to tell people. They really fucking thought we
was crazy, bro, And now that it's crazy times, they
come and get the crazy men. You know what I'm saying,
This is actually the best time in history for us
to be free. The thing is that most people won't admit.
(23:32):
And I'll say this, bro, and I said this a lot,
but I mean this. I think some, not all. I
think some black people they don't want to free the slaves.
They want their opportunity to hold a whip. They want
to do the same thing to black people that white
people did. Think about rap in the NBA. Truthfully, to
all it really takes for the NBA, it's fucking seats,
(23:56):
a fucking ball and some asses in them seats. Bro,
It ain't as hard as we make it, bro. But
think about it, when somebody is a rapper in your hood,
you being hot or having the buzz, what does that equate?
That equates power?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
What's the first thing a rapper going and do go
find them a white person to run their business because
they don't believe that they can run their own fucking
businesses because we are afraid of power. I think that
black people are afraid of freedom the same way they're
afraid of death. Death may be better, but you don't
(24:33):
want to test that shit because you ain't never been
there before. You feel me, so for me, bro, like,
what does freedom look like? That's the reason why I
started a Banner Vision and I started my movie company.
Watch this, y'all, it's gonna fuck y'all head up. There
was there was this black child with a father and
she was screaming uncontrollably. Her dad said, baby, what's wrong?
(24:54):
She said, daddy, are they gonna be any black people
in the future. I was watching the Jetsons and I
didn't see nothing. So it's our responsibility to show them.
You all are showing them what sports looks, what looks
like in the future. Y'all are showing them what it's
supposed to be. Can't no motherfucker tell y'all about basketball.
(25:15):
Motherfucker can talk all of that shit, But if you
ain't never been on that court. You ain't never had
them inside and outside pressures. A bitch can't tell you
shit and they shitn't right, and so like that's how
I feel about now. Now is the best time if
we get off our asses. These kids are waiting for us,
most negroes. Bro, they ain't even respected in their own hood.
(25:37):
How can you save the world and you can't even
save your own house. You can't even save your own hood. Bro.
If we all went outside and picked up the fucking
paper in our front yard and everybody did that, inherently,
it'll be a better place. It'll be a cleaner place.
So that's the reason why it means so much to
be Bro. I think you a fucking sucker if you
(25:57):
got this power influence and you turn that shit in
on people. I never understood that, Bro. People would come
to Mississippi, Bro, and not like we was dirty, Bro,
act like they couldn't come out their little VIP motherfucker.
We paid all this money to see you. You can't
bring your black ass and then wonder why you don't
make it home safe. No, I'm dann serious, Bro. Yeah, Bro,
(26:18):
I love La so much because I know how La
pressed niggas and Bro they protected me, dog, Bro. When
I left and moved away from la and I started
realizing the motherfuckers that was around me and what they
did for a living man. I was so grateful to
their motherfuckers. Bro, they allowed me, they had a level
of respect or reverence for me. Well, they ain't even
(26:40):
let me see some of that shit. Bro, Come on, bro,
you can't buy that. That's one thing. And these niggas
came excuse me, these people came by. Yeah, facts, All right,
let's bring it back up, y'all. I said I was
gonna do bound them.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Let's migrate back to Mississippi. Brookven so Port Arthur is
a small place. You know, it's only forty fifty thousand
dollars forty fifty thousand people eleven k where you from.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Talk about growing up in brook.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Haven and how it is because that's one of them
cities where everybody know everybody, everybody doing.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
The same thing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Well, brook Cavern. I grew up in Jackson. My grandmother
and my family like from Slavery. That's where they're from. Yeah,
And the crazy thing is it's fifteen minutes from a
cone where Snoop was born where Brandy and ray J
was born. You know that period and that part of
Mississippi and Mississippi as a whole, so almost like the
birthplace of culture to a certain degree.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Montellis Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
And so for me, Bro, growing up in Mississippi, man
was it just really made me and prepared me for
the world. I can make it there, Bro, I can
make it anywhere, Bro. And actually fair Con told me
that fair Con was like Banner, like, if you can
do anything, Bro, with the press of black people coming
from out of Mississippi, just the fact that you are
(28:03):
from Mississippi, where people think sorta is the beacon of racism.
If I can come from out that bitch man and
do the stuff that I'm doing, even with my diet,
people are so surprised.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I hadn't ate pork since I was in eleventh grade.
That again, I haven't ate pork since I was in.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Y'all are missing out, Bro, So well, you send me
pictures of bacon and bacon something.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I would see all kinds.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Of shit every day and I'm not see but see,
this is the thing that people like about me.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
If I could bathe in pork. I never said that
ship wasn't good, didn't taste good. I never said. But
what I will say, and watch this answer this question
for me. And I'm not trying to convince you. If
you knew for a fact, watch this. If you knew
for a fact that rat tasted good, would you eat it?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
If it tastes like bacon?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Probably hilarious, but like a rats rats.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
We were eating some ship that we don't really know.
I mean, my daddy was a butcher by day, in
the streets by night, so I knew about how nasty
these animals are. These motherfuckers just taste good, he said.
I just I work out a lot to try to
flush it. But yeah, there's a lot of it in me.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Cheers to bacon. Yeah, no, I would not do that.
I would not do that. Do it over, do it over.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I'm not doing that. I got doing that. I got
a cousin that came to my crib and he thought
I was joking about pork to dB. Yeah, he cooked
something while I was gone, and I smelled it when
I came in the house, and I threw away all
that ship, the pots and pans, everything.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, no pork in my house bro at all And
actually that came from hip hop me listening to Brand
Nubian when I was young. Yeah yeah, and that's one
of the things I always wanted to do in hip hop.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
It is like, we used to have people that would
take us to different places. Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like,
think about how powerful NWA was, bro, Like we knew
that cops were beating the shit out of us and
the places that we were from, and nobody ever talked
about that shit. And yeah, hell yeah yeah UGK for life. Bro.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Hey, but the time you was growing up though, it
was the murder capital. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Well, Jackson, Mississippi was the murder capital of the United States.
And actually my friend Chucky was the first person to
die in Jackson, Mississippi from game violence. So it hit
me a little bit different. And that's one of the
reasons why I love rap music so much. And people
didn't notice about me, bro. I used to be a
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battle rapper. I was a hip hop dude, and all
my friends would always ask me, like, why you listen
to that shit? The niggas don't give a fuck about us,
And I was like, Bro, the shit that most people
rap about, we see that shit outside our house. Why
do I want to encapsulate my shit, myself in that
shit all the time. We see that the ship that
most people rap about the most, the most shit that
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people rap about. Bro, we really new that shit for real,
and it's not cute. That's why I tell you it's
not cute. Like a lot of people trip on me, man,
because I always told my homies, like, bro, if y'all
don't have a job, get the fuck away from me.
We can't fuck this shit up that we doing, man like.
I never got that shit about rappers. What are you
mad about? Bro? We got out. You need to protect
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this shit, dude. Why you why you showing out? Dug.
That's why I never ever got in trouble, Bro. People
trip on that. I ain't never got in trouble because
I know how much a blessing these Bro. I'm from Mississippi.
I'm from the poorest motherfucking state in the United States,
and y'all gonna fuck this shit up over some bullshit,
over some words, some nursery rhyps, shooting a fucking basket
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shit shit, the fuck if I fucked this up, bro,
And I am so grateful, even man like I'm deding serious.
I'm grateful for you all to allow me on y'all platform,
and I know that we're friends and we know each other.
That ain't got nothing to do with y'all business. For
you all to allow me to have access to y'all fans,
it means something to me. I am not playing bro.
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When I went to the clubs, all my hommies with
trip like this is my job. Who's the dope dealer,
who's the most influential girl, who's the DJ?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Like?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I always looked at that. I still do that to
this day. Y'all saw when I walked up in the
spot at Steph Shit, first thing, I went to the
fucking DJ. What's happening to humboy? Everys your name blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah. Who's the most influential
person in this room? I'm not playing when I'm in
the club, dog, And I don't really want to go
to that shit when I'm off. People like, man, why
you don't want to go out while yn't want to
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go to concert? Man, I don't want to see all
that loud shit. I'd be somewhere quiet.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Dog.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Motherfuckers think I'm a geek because that's my fucking lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Bro, did you have a place sports?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
What you played?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Play basketball? Rand?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Track?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I used trash day style.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Hey, he didn't ask me what? He didn't ask me
if I was good? I ain't nobody talking about your
active career. I ain't get on here. I mean I
don't have no basketball career. I couldn't let him go
on like, yeah, yeah, he asked what I played. I
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didn't say I was good and killing.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
But don't push what level you playing?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I was just high school?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
High school? It starts hell now or you just start?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Did you get some time? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I got a little. So what was your talent that much?
What's crazy? I was like Chambers? But what's funny is, Bro,
I didn't have a vertical bro. Ye, I had a
one leg like Tom Chamber. I put your ass in
there he had.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Yeah, yeah that's and I dunk on a lot of
people too.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
And I had heart, bro, Like that was got to
get you a long way. To be honest with you, Bro,
I shouldn't have played basketball. I was really good at track.
To this day, I still I can be fat and
run eighteen run eighteen miles huh yeah, very long distance.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I'm not fast.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I can just run all day. I can Zulu truck.
I really believe. And I heard Will Smith say this
one time, and I actually now believe it. Running is mental.
All you really have to do is take one more step.
What happened is the same way we do with our goals.
We look at our lofty goals and it intimidates us
when in actuality, all you gotta do is take one
more step. Any motherfucker can take one more step.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
I gotta think of that when I'm I'm going to
get this peloton, so I gotta keep one more step
stack because of the shit.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well, but I ain't gonna tell people where we are
because I wanted to stay out here. I was gonna
get a spot out here and it didn't work out.
But like, bro, go by that water, Like get outside, bro,
that peloton. Shit is cool and it's raining, but get
outside in the sun and look at it. Like Bro,
you walk by and see a nice ass when you
run by. Bro, that'll help you. I'm there, serious.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I motivation.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I go to a gym with a lot of motivation.
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
You get through.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
You are walking motivation. Bro, Thank you I live through.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
You appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I can't wait till your motherfucker see what's up under
these clothes.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Though.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I'm so motherfucking fire of the bitch right now, I'm
about to tell that I'm dead.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Get ready to peel.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Let me tell y'all something. Let me tell y'all, cotton.
Cotton ain't never done nothing for a nigga from the South.
I'm done with T shirts in three months. I don't
even wear them, bitches, no more shirtless. I'm done.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I'm aware of.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Barrel pelt pussy on my right shoulder just to show
a certain gratitude. That's it.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
That's the only That's the closest thing I'm gonna have
to I'm a Russian during the winter time, no shirt on.
I'm that fucking sexyst y'all, I'm on their motherfucking ass. Yes,
you can use your hair. I don't have that, bro.
You got the Superman curl right?
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Saw that ship.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I tried to do it myself.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
It didn't work.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
You have to.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
You just have to see him go in the building
and just see how it is real. Ship is unreal,
and sometimes it's Loki annoying sometimes because he'll come back
by me and make a little smart comment.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
You know what I'm saying. It's Loki annoying.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Sometimes it's really y'all just get ready to watch your brother.
I'm done. I'm telling y'all no kind I'm on these
mother like dude, I honestly think, and it's great that
I tape this show now because I think in three
years I want to transcend the human form. I'm half
DEMI god under this bitch right now. I'm dead serious. Sorry, Yeah,
I hate. I really hate that Prince died. I got
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that though. I really think I'm the sexiest motherfucker in
this bitch ever. Enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Hey, dismissed, I'm like stepped.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I'm like stepping. I'm like Steph Curry. I didn't have
the natural attributes that some people have.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
But I worked on it. I worked on it.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I don't have a swaging bird the sweat. I worked
on it. That's it. I just was a personal announcement
really quick.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Tell me this, What was your thoughts of the movie
Center's been shot in Mississippi?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I mean set, it wasn't It wasn't shot Mississippi. Bro. Actually,
I just left Mississippi. They didn't have a theater that
could house the movie. So it was a young man
bro here about twenty eight years old. What's his name, Sweeten? Huh?
Steve yar Bro Tyler Yar Bro. Yeah, young man from Mississippi. Bro.
(37:44):
He got on the internet, Bro and really started talking
about it, and Ryan Coogler Ryan Coogler and what is
Warner and Warner Brothers. Man flew down Bro and set
it up and let the whole time watch the movie.
And so I flew down there. He don't, Bro. They
had the tax credits and he said something really dope.
He said that the studio in Louisiana was big enough
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because the idea was so big, he had to have
a studio that can actually house you know that idea
being that big man. And I really think man that
like that, he's going to really really do something because
he really can. And I found that his family is
from Mississippi too, and so man, I'm honored.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
The only thing that I say, and I meanness, it's
now our time, bro, to start writing our own movies
and our own stories, bro, because it's cool to talk
about the blues. It's cool to talk about dope and
pain and all of that kind of shit. But when
do we write ourselves into the future? Right, What does
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Mississippi look like in the future? Like I saw, a
white scientist said something that was so powerful man, and
nobody ever thought about this. He said that there's no
way possible that super Man is white. You know why,
he said, because superman power comes from the sun. White
people are allergic to the sun. If Superman is really
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if he's a if he's a battery and his power
comes from the solar system, then he would be darker
than the darkest night. There's no way possible that he
could be a white man. So for me is when
are we gonna be gods? When are we gonna be superheroes?
When are we gonna feel that way about ourselves? Have
y'all ever noticed that when black people direct films? In
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most films, that's why I love Ryan so much, we
lose in our own film shit. In a bene vision,
I'm gonna get the girl, I'm gonna have sex with up,
I'm gonna get all the fucking money everybody, the police
ain't the police gonna Everybody gonna get it, but the
black folks I'm dad serious, bro.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Jack played blank man, didn't you.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Y'all funniest fucked up? But like, I'm honored that he
gave us that look, man, because it was crazy. I
didn't see I didn't know that the story was about
Mississippi till I saw the movie. And I'll say this, man,
I think that every black person in America should go
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and see that man's movie. Like what he's doing. Even
from a business perspective, y'all understand that y'all setting the
precedents of how people handle us from a business perspective,
think about this. I thought about this man. Y'all know
how we complain about how Spotify is doing music and
you know, our publishing and all that kind of stuff.
The only thing we gotta do this shit is not hard.
(40:37):
It's signed artists ourselves and just pay him the same
way that y'all doing with some of the ogs. Y'all
go and get the ogs and the people who should
have had jobs and should have got paid. Mister Jackson.
You know what I'm saying, y'all giving them an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Y'all are be in the gods of youall own reality, bro,
and that's important to me. Bro, Yeah, getting real quiet.
That's how fun.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Yeerz.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yeah yeah, talk to us about the Demi tapes and
going from Cricket Letters with Kama Cosy.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
First of all, Man, Like, this is something that I
didn't think about until recently. Bro. Like me and t
I were one of the few artists. Bro, we made
it out twice. I didn't think about that. Bro. Like
people forget bro that I had a record deal when
Noriega was was the hottest thing on the planet. I
was signing the Penalty the same time that Noriega was.
(41:38):
I was in Cricket Letters. Right, That's where I signed
to Right, That's.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Where get Krunk came from. Your people thought that was
a HUGK song, you know, Bro, I didn't. But yeah,
but Bro, I'm just proud man that that I've had
the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Man, It's it's lonely because I know I'm a fucking genius. Bro.
I know how good I am at this shit. And
it's funny. Pimpsy used to tell me that shit all
the time. You said, Banna, you smart, you smart man,
you like it. Just take people, he said, put out
two more like a pimps. Man, It's gonna take a
minute for people to understand you. You smart and bro
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like to be able to represent Mississippi in a way,
and Bro to be able to change the way I
even watch man like. People didn't used to even come
through Mississippi on their promo tools. And Bro, after I
came out, the motherfuckers came to my city. People don't
even notice that kind of shit, Bro, the things that
we do for our city. And sometimes Bro, like my
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mom say this shit all the time. She said, being
a visionary is a blessing and a curse. Your God
has blessed you to see things that other people can't see,
but you curse to sit in them alone. And it's
actually backwards to want people to understand you, because if
they under more people understand you, then the less your
worth is. Do you want to be the person that
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creates the iPhone? Or you the person you want to
be the person that does the updates? And if you
the person that want to create the iPhone, motherfucker's gonna
laugh at you like niggas laughed at me. Bro. Bro
when I first started rapping, and I may be dating
myself a little bit. Bro, they weren't even playing rap
on the main radio stations. They weren't playing rap on
the radio stations only on Sundays on WNPR at four o'clock.
(43:24):
So like, Man, for me to be able to say,
man that now I may, I don't know if it's
still that, it's still the same. I think I'm the
youngest person. I'm in between Elvis Presley and BB King
and in the I'm in the Mississippi Music Hall of Fame.
(43:45):
So to be able to say that, Man, it's a blessing.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Bro, how do you make beats while you're homeless? Oh?
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Man, that's dope, great question. I tell kids this, Bro, Like,
I went to Walmart and got a what's the thing
that tread? It takes the electricity? You put it in
a converter. Yeah, I went to Walmart and got a
converter and built the studio of my van and bro
(44:12):
like a lot of my homeboys didn't want to get
on the road with me, dude, and so I turned
that the passenger side literally into a studio.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
But I ain't I'm me personally, I'm deeper than that.
I ain't talking about the equipment, talking about mentally, Like
how you even keep yourself focused?
Speaker 1 (44:26):
To know you homeless. I gotta do this to you,
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I tell you why, because I did some research, bro,
and I found out there's two types of rich people.
There's rich people who become rich because they have family
and their parents have influence, their parents have friends, like
they can show you the way. Or you could be
so fucking poor that you don't have no fucking choice.
(44:51):
You either gonna make it or you're gonna die. So
I didn't know no rich people. I didn't have to
be homeless.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Bro, we didn't hear shit.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
I didn't have to be homeless. But I knew that
either I can be lower middle class and work at
a bank and have a fucking boring ass life because
to me, hell is working in the fucking office and
doing the same fucking thing every day. Bro, I probably
blow my fucking brains up. As hard as it is
for us, there is not one day in any of
our lives that's the same. This ship is actually like
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being on the fucking Gandalf or something. I'm serious, bro, Like,
it's like being a fucking wizard. Every day. We create magic. Yeah,
Lord of the Ring. Yeah, like, bro, we this ship is.
This ship is fun, bro, Like Honestly, we at work high.
I mean a lot of y'all at work high.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
But y'all faking y'all.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Y'all can't say y'all high.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Everybody on our staff is fine.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Oh y'all high.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, fucking light up here.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
We do it as a team. That's what we think
about it. Every we do everything. We do everything.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
It's just a high rainbow over there.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah everybody, But no, man, I knew that in order
for me to be successful, I had to burn the bridges.
Not only I not only burned the bridges, I burned
the boats.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Doug.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
I was SGA president at Southern Bro. They said I
was one of the best SGA presidents in history ever, Bro,
Like I could have I could have done that corporate shit.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
I was a.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Semester in the thesis. I'm I'm a semester in the thesis.
Away from my master's degree. I had a three point
nine nine eight seven. An accelerated masters.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Program is like a paper.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
So yeah, I've always been intelligent, always bro. When I
was in when I was in the third grade, I
read on a junior in college level. I could count
to a million.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
That's funny, because I knew that right, you're looking at everything.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
It's like, what look at my brother?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (46:48):
The thesis is right? And so for me and so
for me it was just it was just like I
had to burn the bridges, man, and I had to
get out there man, and it was crazy man.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Like.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
I went back to the streets twice, bro, Like I
made it out and then I went back and created
it my own company. Huh. Just twice, yeah, just twice.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
Just twice, Okay, okay, just twice.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I'm different than these other negroes. I'm not proud of
that ship, Bro. I'm a I'm sort of embarrassed some
of the ship that I did. Like we talked about outside,
I'm not happy about that ship. Ain't nothing cute about
that ship at all. Bro. You know, I'm just happy
that we are able to talk about it now we
do it.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Tell me this, with the record business being so shady,
how did how did you learn it and navigate through
it being independent?
Speaker 3 (47:40):
I didn't know. Eric Abadu taught me this like in
some cases, and you know, I'm a man of knowledge.
I never say that ignorance is cool. But like, B,
I really thought that ship was real, Bro, I really
thought that that like I looked at hip hop. My
little homeboy man who just got out the streets. He
used to tell me that shit O the time. He said, Man,
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this rap shit hurt you, like it's a girl or something.
Bro Like, I really love the rap. Bro, I really
thought that shit was real. Motherfuckers don't care nothing about us. Bro.
You know, Pimp taught me that, Bro, like, we got
to care for us. I got this theory, man, that
the story of Jesus, the story of Jesus isn't about
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a man coming down bearing a cross for you. I
believe the story of Jesus is about a man coming
down to show you how to bear your own cross.
So like hip hop, hip hop ain't fair hip hop
being pay attention to us until the Bay Area in
Texas showed us how to be independent, how to make
our own record companies. They only cared about Southern hip
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hop because we were making more money than they were.
As a whole, we didn't look at ourselves. Imagine little
Flip Thugger, David Banner, Ludicris Pastor, Troy E forty two,
short master p. Imagine how many to you a South
Park Mexicans? How much money we were making as a conglomerate. Bro.
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So what they did is they signed all of us,
got us all out of the way, and then motherfuckers
fell off.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
But together we were putting the dent in that shit, y'all.
And we didn't have the We didn't have the foresight
to see what they did and then watch this, watch this,
this fuck your head up. Then we learned how to
get mom and pop stores. We had a Southwest distribution,
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we had Gonzales, we had our own distribution companies. They
sucked the distribution companies up, bought the distribution companies, sick
the fans on the main DJs and the mom and
pop stores. Then they sucked the mom and pop stores up,
then closed the Virgin Mega store. Right when we had learned, Bro,
I had just got to the point where I was
getting nine dollars a fucking album. Dog. If I would
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have sold one more album, Bro, and then negroes wan
to stream, I'm about to get nine dollars and you
tell me now, I'm getting a fraction of a peny shit. Bro,
This shit, Bro, it's actually genius. Racism, Bro, and imperialism
is actually genius. Me and Scott was talking about this
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in the back. If you take away the fact that
they fucking over us, the shit is actually genius, Bro,
and they got us happy about streaming. Man that shit
so fucking stupid, you know. But what I will say
bro again, Bro, like, all we have to do is
be successful, Bro, and then we can change the shit
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for these kids, because think about what they have successfully done.
There is now one generation of children that have never
bought anything, so it's hard to convince them to give
you nine dollars an album for something that they have
always gotten for free. And then we're giving our money
to tech companies, not even people who care about us,
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who care about me. We even know who we are. Bro.
It's funny. I'm about to be I'm about to go
meet with the dude from Spotify. But the real truth is, Bro,
from a business perspective, you my enemy. And it's hard
Bro when it's just one of us, Bro that shits
so fucking lonely dog, when God has blessed you with
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the information to know better, Bro, and niggas look at
you like you crazy or like you wet. And then
sometimes because we're in flesh, sometimes you start tripping, like damn,
am I fucked up. You know who knows? Who knows?
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Yeah, another drake, What does a what does an early
David Banner production package look like? What do you mean
like earlier in the day, Like when you go to
produce an album, make an album for somebody all beat?
Speaker 1 (51:47):
How does that look like? You show up to the studio?
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Oh okay, I get you. Honestly true story. I was
one of the few producers similar to many Fresh and
Jazzy Faber. I would make the beat in front of
them that I'm talking about because I never I knew
how it felt bro At first, I couldn't afford beats,
and then when I hustled up enough money to buy beats,
nigros will never give me the beats I heard on
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the album. Like, dog, I'm a fan of you, How
are you gonna give me this bullshit? I want the
ship that was on your album.
Speaker 4 (52:15):
You made you made your everything?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
No, no, no, who made that everything?
Speaker 3 (52:21):
I did? I get Well, that's clear up something I
thought you made that. No people thought I did international
players too, that was that was juicy Jay, and I
didn't do that. To this day, people I said, I
did not do that. I appreciate you a lot of
people that gave me money thinking I did it. I
tell him, like, bro, I didn't do it, but I
still want your money.
Speaker 5 (52:38):
You have done record for Bough, You have done records
for Buny pim right.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
I've done records for Pimp. I never did stuff for you, GJ.
I was actually slated to do a lot of pimpsy
like big album and the independent album that he was
gonna do. Yeah, what drew.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
You to transition from rapping to getting more behind the production,
the producer's side of music.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
I never Honestly, people don't notice. I never wanted to
be a producer. I just couldn't afford beats, and I
come to find out I don't. Most people don't notice
that shit. Yeah, most people don't know this though. But
the person or that is my father isn't my blood father.
He raised me from when I was three, I found
out that my biological pop father played twelve instruments. I've
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never been classically trained in music ever, maybe except the drums.
But and so that shows you that God has a purpose.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Right.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
One time, I really wanted to do something to my
biological father. I was gonna find him when I was
eight months he threatened my life. I mean, he jumped
on my mom and threatened my life, and I always
wanted to see him be like what that looks like now.
But I realized, Man, maybe his only purpose in the
universe was to give me musical talent, and he did that.
He dumped that all. You know what I'm saying. In music, man,
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As much as I can complain about it, every time
my life goes bad, music is always the thing that
brings me back. So you know, just I'm grated. That's
the one thing that I can say. I'm a good actor,
and I honestly work at that shit. I go to
acting school, been going to acting school for twenty years. Really,
I have to work at that, bro, really really hard
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bro music. That drum machine. Bro, I'm serious, Bro. On
a good day, I don't think too many people can
fuck with me on the drum machine program and an
actual drum machine. I could do that shit with my
eyes closed in the dark, you know what I'm saying.
So it's just what I It's just what I've always done, bro,
and I'm great at it.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
I'm actually he produced my next album with that money
he got.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
He got that.
Speaker 5 (54:48):
Shit, sweety what's that alcohol? It was alcohol this time,
that was water. Last time I would like one.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
Yeah, that's fine. I used to that to the DJ.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Now we to get yours too, because you're trying to
run this time.
Speaker 4 (55:04):
Cheers to DV being in the building to his But no, I.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
Am. I'm one of the executive producers of Jill Scott.
Somebody got a hold in the lip and I'm enjoying that.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
That woman.
Speaker 5 (55:18):
We can't talk about her in front of me. Everybody
knows how I feel about Jill Scott. We're not gonna
do that. I've DMed her and told her and guess
what she told me what? I am so flattered in
another lifetime. Damn wow, she with that Eric. I love
Erica too. With Jim, I told her I had to.
I had to tell her physically how I felt it.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
And that motherfucker's so talented, bro, Like I learned so much.
Speaker 4 (55:41):
Hey, Jill, I'll get the next session.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
I'm gonna make a word mouthpiece so you don't fight you.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
That's hilarious. That motherfucker, she's man, She's I tell you
all the story, bro. I was in the studio working
on a record, bro, and she was just over there
writing and when a person is vibing, bro, let them
do what they do. And I went and looked over
her shoulder and it was only two or three words
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on the paper. So she would do this and then
put a word, and then go down and put a word.
And I was like, baby, I don't want to fuck
up your vibe, but like, what are you doing? And
she said, better, the words are in the paper, I
just have to find them. So she would stop the
music and then go back and fill in the words.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
It was the most magical shit I've ever seen in
my life. I've never seen and I will say this, Bro,
Jill Scott is the only BRO. And I've produced hundreds
of people in my life. Jill Scott is the most
efficient person I've ever worked with. She don't go in
the studio on vibe. She don't go in the studio
and drink and get high and shit.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Work eighty percent of the time. Eighty I'm not boyshitting.
She in the booth eighty percent of the time we're
in the studio. She said, I don't come here to write,
I come here to execute. You don't go You don't
go on game day and start doing new ship. People
don't understand most people, Like I remember Magic talking about
like that half court shot. He practiced that ship every
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day of his life, so when he would hit that
ship in half court, people thought it was magic. It
wasn't no fucking magic. You work on that ship. That
woman worked so fucking hard, bro, and she's so fucking dope,
and she do everything. Bro. She wrapped poetry, everything, Bro.
She told she told me something that made me feel
really good too. She said, I want to show the
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world how dope you actually fucking not, because they really
don't know it. Ain't nobody really ever took up for
me like that. Brobody else's working well, I know we
talked about a name that I asked you about in Fristyll.
Speaker 4 (57:45):
I was like, you know who you should be, you
should start doing stuff for you showed me your fine.
Who else you're working with?
Speaker 3 (57:51):
Oh Man, Andre, Bro, I've been I've been shooting Andre
beats bro over ten years. Bro. This is what I
This is my thing about music, and I'm gonna be
totally transparent with you all. My patience for music is gone.
Like I'm just being honest with you, bro, Like I
really only work with people that I care about in kids,
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kids that wont to learn. Like like I talk about
this and I'm serious, But the last time I produced
for t I, he didn't pay me. I didn't want
this money. I just wanted me and him to get
back in the studio, GiB because anytime me and him
in the studio make money, money happened, just like him
and too him and to getting in the studio, It's
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gonna happen. And whenever we get back to doing it
for the right reasons, the money chases us. Bro. I
just wanted.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (58:49):
I didn't know this, bro. A lot of people didn't know.
I did tip drill for Nelly. I did that too.
I got that boy in trouble. That whole credit card
ship my.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Fault that shit was.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
He said that shit was five. That was college time,
crazy thing that people don't know about. I wasn't even
at the video, like I was only at the video
fifteen minutes. Most people didn't know that that was actually
a remix to EI. So he told me he was
shooting the EI remix. I don't know what the fuck
that is this new tip drill and man, I got
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to the motherfucking video, bro, and Benny booone.
Speaker 1 (59:23):
Was my homie in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (59:25):
It was in Atlanta, and I was like, bro, just
put me in different places and shoot me and then
edit me in the video. Bro, I know what I
had missed. Bro, I missed the number one video all
time that I produced. And it wasn't even really that.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
It was that.
Speaker 4 (59:38):
Huh here was that?
Speaker 1 (59:39):
Like?
Speaker 3 (59:39):
Oh, I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (59:42):
Was it the two thousand?
Speaker 3 (59:43):
Ye? Now it had to be two thousands because I
didn't come out to two thousand and two, so that
had to be two thousand and four, two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
O five doing five shout oh fire. When Outcast said
the South has something to say? What did that mean
to you and me?
Speaker 3 (59:59):
And everything to me?
Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Everybody? Yep, you showed right say it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
And men everything to me, Man.
Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Everybody's TV like this, Matt.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Obviously when that happened. I mean, this put some content.
There was a lot of shit going on with the
East and West Coast at that.
Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Time, and we always overlooked. You know, when he said.
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
It, it it rained true because so much talent, but
it wasn't necessarily focused on that. Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
People still really don't I don't think the South is
going to get its proper look until we own our
own shit.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
It's like what we do is we make a lot
of other people money until you can cut the check
yourself and I have to run and beg somebody else.
Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Bro, check got your name on the signature line in
the end, the line.
Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
I give you a great example when I did play Bro,
I told Colin Park but I said, I may not
have the money that you used to getting paid for
a beat, but I got my check book right now.
I get ten thousand right now, like right this minute.
And it was funny because that was actually supposed to
be eight forty beat, but I had the money right then.
Man here running that I didn't know that was supposed
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to be in forties until after because he told me.
But like, Bro, like it's crazy, man, because we still
really don't have that South movie. Like if you really
think about one of the reasons why the West Coast
is so powerful, because at the same time when Snoop
and dra came out, what else was happening. It's a
society Like yeah, Bro, yeah, we never had that proper
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depiction of the South.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
That comes from us, you know what I'm saying, man,
So like for me. And that's one thing that I
hope to do with a banner vision, Bro, is just
to give honest depictions. It don't even have to be positive.
People always think when it's me because of the spiritual
mindset that I'm in, Like nah, I just want it
to be real and honest. That's the only thing that
we can ask for. Bro. All we need in culture
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is balanced. That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
What roles do strip clubs play in Southern hip hop? Everything?
You see his face when I asked them everything, everything.
Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Therapy, money, linery.
Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Now I'm just joking.
Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
No, honestly, Bro, The strip club for us was always
Jazzy Faye taught me this, Bro, that's.
Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
The Southern golf course. You know y'all make y'all deals
on the golf. That was our spot. That's the Southern
golf course. Dazzy Fading helped so many make all ideas
and means the ship that be at the strip clubs
in the South, it don't be at the golf course.
Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
So watch this, Bro, Jazzy Faye did something so genius. Bro,
we would be in the studio working right. I'm used
to putting my head down just grind out night like
calm down, calm down. It's like, let's take a rest.
He bounced down the n P three. Let's take it
to the strip club and see if the ship really
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works in real time. So you hear it in the studio,
you watch us, see if the girls react to it.
That's how I knew that like a pimp wasn't hit
DJ will Bro, I'll never forget.
Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
And that became the bluepens for every rapper in the South.
Popping in the strip club.
Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
You gotta hit, yeah, and you ain't gotta ask nobody.
You can't fluff that, bro. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
If the strip was like it and they getting it
played in there, your shit is at work. Hit.
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
You ain't got a beg nobody, Bro. And so what
we end up doing is okay, you watch it in
the studio. Okay, we can slow it out. We can
speed it up in real fucking time.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
That's what the strip club was for us, man. And
then the other thing was bro it was also a
gathering place that was neutral and safe because pussy has
a way to start violence and end violence, you know
what I'm saying. And so Bro, and that's one thing brother,
I have to say, man, and I'm serious about this
that I'm so grateful to Atlanta for Atlanta Bro was
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one of the few places I've ever been to, BRO
where they didn't mind you coming there and getting money.
You know, people always trip on while everybody running to Atlanta, Bro,
because if you started treating people in your town the
way that Atlanta treated people, BRO, you would go there too.
And so, Man, the Strip club was just a place
for us to congregate, man and talk about the really
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shit in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
It was so dope man. Good food, yeah, some of
the best food in the world. I remember I told
kros onon that Bro, me and karas One was building
on hip hop and I asked him. I was like,
what's the definition of hip hop? And he told me
and he was like, well, the real truth is probably
do eat chicken in the club, in the fucking strip club.
That's just the truth. My home boys are adult dealers,
(01:04:34):
That's just the fucking truth. Shre. So hip hop may
not be the same, but that doesn't mean that it's
not hip hop. I do have a Cadillac with twenty
two's I do. That happened for fucking real. So it's
just that you know that our hip hop is just
different than our experience. And that's one of my few
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criticisms about music.
Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
I want West Coast to be West Coast. I won't
oft to be South so we can talk about our
experience and enjoy each other. Bro. You know, bro Like
I heard Perico, Bro, it felt so good to hear
him be so fucking West Coast. You don't even know
(01:05:18):
how much of a fan I am. My home boy
Sally putting me on a bro. That was the reason
why Life Grisel di so much. They sounded so fucking
East Coast. You know what I'm saying, So like for me, bro, Like,
it's not about judging each other, It's about loving each
other for exactly who we are. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
The current climate of Southern Rap right now, obviously with
the you know, the YSL trial and going down and
the violence, and still with the talent the future, and
there's a lot of talents still, what do you think
that the current state of Southern Rap is.
Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Welcome home, Welcome home.
Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Honestly, what we don't understand, bro, is that we are
all different, and what we can't do is do the
same thing our parents did to us. Think about it
every generation. It happens in basketball. I say this, bro,
and I hope y'all feel me on this. Bro. Like
most people, I really believe if you're gonna have a
goat conversation, that we should all sit down in the
room enough of us and say what are the goidelines?
(01:06:22):
Let's say what the godelines are? Because most people are
just emotional about who that they who they love when
they was a child, really, but they really don't have
no Is it about championships? Is it about influence? Is
it about what is it really about?
Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
That's the only two things, I mean three things peers,
influence and championship.
Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
So if we're going to say that, we have to
I believe in any debate we have to agree on
something before we disagree. What do we agree on? So
we'll have a baseline if it's If it's not, then
it's emotional. The reason why people don't really want to
get godelines because then it may not be none of
the people that we like, you know what I'm saying,
Because then we can go to those Boston teams, Bro,
(01:07:01):
we can go to those early LA teams that people
don't ever talk about Bro. So for me in the South, Bro,
it's just really man about realizing that we all have
different perspective. Our perspectives are different. These kids getting information
from all around the world everywhere, the pressure that is
on them, it's different, Bro, Their brains move in a
(01:07:22):
different way. So for me, BRO, it's really just about
and think about it. Let's just really be honest because
people my age won't, they won't admit this. Everybody from
my generation wasn't fucking dope. There was a lot of
whack ass niggas that was Yeah, So bro, like, just
sit back and listen to the music and if you
(01:07:42):
don't like it, shut the fuck up. And what most
people won't do, if you really don't like it and
make better music, then you can't do that. You can't
do that. Everybody want to have a motherfucking opinion about
shit that they can't do, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
So, like, Bro, that was the criteria to talk ship.
A lot of people will be able to say nothing. Yeah,
that's they only hate what they can't be You you
had that credentials to speak on something. She would be quiet.
I'm gonna give you some Southern names. Tell me the
first memory or story that may come to mind. Pimps,
Trim damn Bro, rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
I wanted to be upbeat. I wanted to be upbeat man.
Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
But now give a summary. We got some other people.
It's gonna get your beat.
Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
But but Pimp call me and I didn't pick up
the phone, and then he died. And then I went
back and listened to the voice. Man lax, gonna pick
me up. You know you can't help. But they because
one thing, one thing about me and Pimp that I
don't talk about much. Pimp never talked bullshit with me ever.
Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
We never talked about women, We never talked about drugs.
It was always the next level. And Pimp was really
about to do some amazing shit, Like if you really
go back and listen to that last UGK album, they
were shifting. Bro. Pimp just told me, it's gonna take
me a little bit longer, Banner, because like Bro, I
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got on from real niggas, bitches and hustlers and dope
dealers Banner, so that I have to slowly take them
along with me. Nip was the same way. He understood
that there was a certain culture that he had. He
couldn't walk off and leave, Bro. And so for me, Bro,
thinking about that day, Bro, is it stay on my mind?
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And I just got to the point about three years ago. Well,
I can't blame myself for that. I can't, you know,
it just it just happened. But what I will say, man,
is that something that I know most people won't talk about.
Pimp was one of the funniest motherfuckers on Earth, Earth
when I tell you, Earth, when I tell you, but
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he all, he would always say.
Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Truly funny dude, and him, I'm talking about what I try.
Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
And man, he would always say, better don't let these
niggas know you, though, he said, because if they really
know you, you have to hurt them. Because people take
being kind and fuck being funny. It takes that as
a weakness where we from and you end up literally
having to take the motherfucker off this earth. But Pimp
was so fucking him and fucking three six Mafia, like
(01:10:24):
you wouldn't believe how kind of one the same too,
but not a joke, not a joke at all, nothing
that lasted, but naturally funny and naturally good people.
Speaker 5 (01:10:35):
And when Pim died, I'm on the way to his
mom's funeralom Bun called me, oh wow on the way
from the Bay to San Francisco, right to San Francisco,
right Sacramento. I'm from the Bay of Sacramento driving up
and pimp called me. I mean Bun called me on
the phone while he was driving his mom field.
Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Bro, I crazy day and I remember that like yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Very batter things and zachermano.
Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
That could be anything. Wayne, Oh, Wayne, all right, just
dropped the Carter six. He's still in Sacramento right now.
Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
That's okay, Wayne, Wayne told me the most admirable. I
got so many stories, Wayne, I tell you.
Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Wayne.
Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
So when I did La La Lala actually from the
car to three was actually for Shrek three and I
was working on that and Wayne was. Wayne is one
of the few people man where he loves music so much. Wayne.
If you go back and listen to a lot of
the freestyles that people like, some of those were my beats.
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Wayne was really a fan of me musically as an artist, Bro,
And that felt good. Wayne was smoker blunt. This is
the craziest shit. Put his head in the big ass
cone of the speaker. Y'all know how shit that how
loud that shit is put his head in the speaker,
smoke a whole blunt and say, play all your beats.
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I wanna hear all of them. And I would play
every beat, and I got hundreds of thousands of beats.
Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
He said, play all the motherfuckers that's on your laptop.
But Wayne heard la la, and he said, who that
for a banner? I said, I was for Shrek. Wayne said,
fuck Shrenk. You know what, what?
Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Fuck Shank?
Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
And that's how that ti oh man Ti I is
a hard one, bro, because through every iteration of my career,
we've been tied together. And he's one of the few people,
bro that I really honestly think give a fuck about me.
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I don't really think most people care. They say that
they're cold, but most people really don't. Man, all right,
I'll tell y'alle, this is a quick one. I know
this ain't the normal one, but this just happened. So
me and me and Tip working on some music, and
so we go outside and there's a slight little ruckus
(01:13:09):
outside and then I see Tip, you know, getting in it,
and so, shit, nigga, what I look at Tip? I said, brother,
you all right? He looked back at me and say shit,
are you all right? I was like, all right, bro,
and took my ass home. But I tell you Tip,
(01:13:29):
I talked to Tip and Tip. I told Tip Man
that he literally changed my life with this.
Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
I didn't like the way that hip hop handled him,
you know, over the last situation. And you know, he
lost his movie deals and lost a lot of money, bro,
And black folks think just because we have money, it
don't really matter what happened to us, and that shit
ain't cool. And so I talked about it when I
was on Nori in them show, but I felt bad
(01:13:59):
at it. It took me so long to say anything
about it. So I told him, man, like I apologize, bro,
that it took so long. He was like, better fuck
that shit. He was like, Bro, you know the folks
trying to give me thirty years, the fuck about the
rest of that shit, Bro, I'm free And I never
thought about it like that.
Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Sometimes we get so caught into all of this shit,
and it's a blessing that we just alive from the
where the fuck we frying? Bro, Just to be breathing sometimes, Bro,
when we pray, we always praying for something and not
thanking God for our vision. But the ability to steal
walk Bro, for you to know and have a healthy
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relationship with your children, Bro, you know what I'm saying,
for us to just be able to exist. Do you
know how many motherfuckers got swallowed? Bro, No, literally got swallowed,
like you know they mom or dad could have shows. Yeah,
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Boosy Boosy, Oh Man Boosy. To me, there's three people
that you can't deny their effect on. When they came out,
Little Boosy, g Z and Master p. There was something else, Bro,
when they came out a lot of us, it took
us a minute to sort of bubble and we sort
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of had like the motherfuckers spread like like wildfire. And yeah,
Bro like Boosy Bro was such a people from other
places don't understand like how hot that motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Was was but still at this a still has a cult.
Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Yeah, and they made man what and and and the
thing was Bro that Boosy and what's crazy. Pimp had
been talking to me about Boosy before anybody knew who
he was. Web like Pimp Son and Bro like man
to even see the father that he's become Bro and
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the fact that he's not afraid like Bro. People don't
listen to what Boosy actually has to say. Booseye reminds
me sometimes of Kevin Samuels, Bro, Like if you take
the emotions away from what they're saying, Bro, he's saying
some shit that y'all really really need to listen to. Bro.
And I'm just proud of him, man, of his growth
(01:16:27):
because Boosie didn't give a fuck. I went to school
in ben Ruge, man Ruge and Jackson, Mississippi are very similar.
That's places where motherfuckers come to college and come you know,
the party, and go to LSU guns and come back
in the fucking casket. Like Boosey ain't no motherfucking joke, Bro.
So for him to become the businessman that he is,
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to become entertainer the father that he is man. And
one thing that I'm happy about Boocy is similar to you, Bro.
I see Boosy at them fucking Atlanta Hawk's.
Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Game having the time is life.
Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
That motherfucker having the best time in his life. And
he said it when he had that same situation, Like, Bro,
when I got out of prison, he was like, fuck that,
I'm gonna have fun. Bro. Think about how blessed we
are Bro, I did not enjoy my career, bro, ask Scott.
I just started smiling. I didn't have fun though. I
was so serious, bro, and I was so scared of
fucking it up, Like I hailed the ball manny and
(01:17:24):
I didn't even bounce the motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
You missed the journey. Journey is the best part.
Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
But it ain't over with. To tell his motherfucker's mouth
out good.
Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
What transition to acting?
Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Acting?
Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
You started rapping a lot about how movie movie business
money is different.
Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Talk about that.
Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
The cool thing about it about movies is that if
you get the project, the money is there. You know
what I'm saying. I'm so used to Okay, you gotta
I'm doing a.
Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Rod for free next week.
Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
Really getting my reps up so you can't so I
can have an acting career so for you, so you
can't say I don't have one yet.
Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Bro, All we gotta all we got no no, no,
I'm serious, B All we gotta do is make our
own ship. I'm down with that too, yeah, Bro, Because
this is the one thing, bro, that I do hate
about my peers.
Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
We spend money on cars. We spend money on all
of this high price, high price clothes. I believe in
spending money on me. Like everybody talk about investing, investing
with investing your own ship. Look at what y'all to build, bro.
For believing in yourself. Bro, then you ain't got to
worry about auditioning. All you got to do is go
to acting school and make sure that you got your
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reps up, bro. But then make it shoot your own ship.
Fuck waiting waiting on them? Man, never come to say.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
I told I'm shooting my own document. And we're not
talking about that that uh, small porn. We're talking about
like real feature.
Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Hilarious.
Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
I haven't. I haven't auditioned for porn yet. You ain't
have to. I haven't this district for yet.
Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
That's hilarious. No, man, but I'll tell you this.
Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
I just go along with the jokes now because I
know they come from anywhere I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
I don't talk about this much, bro, But I actually
based my my acting career off ice Cube. It makes
sense that a lot of people don't know that man,
Like people didn't see him as an A list star.
He saw himself and he made it bro. And then
what he did was he was so successful with Friday
they couldn't come to him with no bullshit because he
(01:19:16):
had the numbers. Where white people fuck us up a
lot of times they talk strictly business. We're spiritual people
and we talk about how dope shit is and they
don't give a fuck about that. How many asses can
you put in the seat where Ice Cube showed them?
I can put ninety two million asses in the seat.
So if you ain't paying me at least half of that,
get the fuck on. You know what I'm saying, And
(01:19:39):
so like, bro Like, that's why I created a banner vision.
A banner vision comes from cute vision and a five
call quest. It's a banner vision and so man like
for me, bro Like, they don't see us as superheroes,
but I do. And the thing is, Bro, all our
asks is people work on their craft man as hard
(01:19:59):
as they possibly can. Bro. At least a deck the actor, Bro,
I mean the comedian Bro is one of my really
tight homies, Broe. And at least Ad taught me something, Bro,
And I really believe y'all to a feel this Bro.
He changed my life, he said, Banner Bro, I don't
fuck with these niggas, he said, And they don't fuck
(01:20:22):
with me, and I started wondering, like, Bro, why don't
fit in? Don't I don't fuck with nobody but with threats?
Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Oh yeah, one thing, bro, with all of this AI ship,
and one thing you can't fake. It's authenticity and realness.
Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
That's why they're scared of you too. And then the
fact that you ain't just talking you can do something too,
and with some big old niggros Bro.
Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
A lot of frustrations building.
Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Yeah, but what we all gonna do, Bro, is create
our own situation, collect our fans, bro, and now all
we have to start doing is as a banner vision
grows what y'all doing. We just gotta fuck with each other,
have fun.
Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Bro, at least dig to that. My boy.
Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
He always telling the team, Man, we ain't got to
reinvent the wheel. There's a lot of the motherfuckers out
here doing it.
Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
Yeah, you've been successful in every medium of art. What
are the trades needed to succeed in the project, regardless
of the medium dealing? That's too many big words and
one question for that.
Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
But I was actually really dope. But you did a
good job.
Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
But I don't know on the inside and the inside
I was mad in the inside.
Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
I was struggling.
Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
I read I read it.
Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
I didn't start doing nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Don't don't let the editor try, but listen to this.
I'm serious, Bro, you don't broke there. Other people judged
that ship. I used to do that ship as an actor,
and I was starting. You know I can handle That's
why he did it. You know you did a great
I was thoroughly impressed.
Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
I'm impressing out me get myself.
Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
I said a whole bunch of big words in one
sentence and didn't suck it up.
Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Man, I'm growing.
Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
I was saying sears to that. I would say, because
I would say consistency, Bro, like one thing that I
don't want these kids to know where you gotta practice.
You gotta fucking practice.
Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Again, Bro, I tell people that that's the reason why
I love stuff so much. Bro, It's because from if
you think about nature and nurture. Bro. He didn't have it, Bro,
like he was short, had bad ankles. Bro. Come from
a small college. He had to bust his fucking ass,
Bro and get them fucking rep see in every fucking
(01:22:31):
day still to this fucking day.
Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
And that's how I had to be from Mississippi. Bro,
I had to bust my fucking ass, and kids don't
understand how hard broke. I've been in acting school. A
lot of people don't know this. Bro. When my homeboys
was buying chains and cars and shit. Bro, a lot
of my money went to for flights coming to LA.
I came to LA every fucking week. Now, if I
knew what I knew now, I should have bought an
(01:22:53):
apartment out here for the amount of money. But I
didn't have nobody to teach me that I was flying
to LA going to acting school. I've been in acting school.
It's like a pimp, bro. Really, yeah, I'm not fucking
I'm not playing bro because I didn't. I didn't want
people to say. I didn't want people say I got
it just because I was a rapper. I didn't want
people to say. And then I take this series man,
(01:23:15):
and I know I shouldn't, but Bro, I know how
hard people work every day just to be an actor.
So if I'm gonna take your spot, BRO, I want
to be able to look in your eyes say, Nigga,
I'm just better than earned it, and I look better.
They already know that when they look at me, but
like I want them to know that I'm better.
Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
Quick hitters.
Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
First thing to come to mind. Let us know one
album with no skips that you're listening.
Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Did you listen to uh ill matic?
Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Childhood Crush?
Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Childhood Crush? What's the dark skinned black girl from Dead
Presidents that came out to trash?
Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Shoot? Oh my god, good call, good call.
Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Y'all got.
Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Right, y'all got lotions? Top five producers in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Top five producers. Oh that's a hard one, bro. That's
a hard one for me because as a Southerner, I
know that Southern producers don't get their light.
Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
But if I'm being like, honest, let's go top five
Southern producers, then.
Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
No, We'll keep the question because that gives me an
opportunity to put my folks over that fields awesome. I
would say Dungeon Family as a whole. I would say Neptunes,
not just for real Neptunes together. Yeah, when they were
doing that crazy synthetic.
Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
I see. That's hard, bro, because there's no way that
you can't say doctor Dre, no way in hell that
I can't gotta you gotta say that. But I naturally
want to say battle Cap. You know what I'm saying
like I want because I'm a hip hop historian, Bro,
(01:25:09):
and then I want to say, just blade, you know
what I'm saying. Timberland, you have to say you know?
But then for me, for me, you can't. You cannot
say Kelsey and beats by the Pound just because of
(01:25:30):
the influence. And he changed music, He changed the way
people literally put out music.
Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Then then how can you dare not say many Fresh?
He was alone? Bro? People don't get see. People are
not used to people articulate enough to be able to
express why they feel the way that they feel.
Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
He did that ship alone. Do you know how hard
it is? Bro? In the environments that he had to record,
You don't talk about that ship Bro? Literally, Bro, when
I went to do the Car to three and this
don't had nothing to do with with with Manny, but
it has to do with the situation.
Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
What was the I forgot the studio.
Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
They took over in Miami, but they took over the
whole studio, Bro, and Nigros was standing outside on the
third and second floor, Bro, like literally outside on the
on the windows. I never it took over the whole
fucking studio.
Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
People don't know the ship that we go through studio
you talking about, Yeah, but those are my those are
those are summer my. It's my favorite. Shout out to
bun Bee and this verse on murder. I want to
say that I think that's.
Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
One of the most will It's bun Bee bitch and
I'm the king of moving chickens.
Speaker 5 (01:26:49):
Got the finger lickings my pocket sticky.
Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
I'm sicking, nick when I'll be clicking.
Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Now, take a look at the bigges Nigga my liquor
swigger playing.
Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
Hey that this nigga figure might half trigger give her
one of your shaken quick niggas niggast then the.
Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
River huh yeah, yeah that I like. All Right, Okay,
one actor you wish too, you could work with one actors.
Here's to you, oh Man actress, act actress.
Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Oh Man. Michael B. Jordan's an Iris album.
Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
The reason is because I know both of them, and
I like, I like a second I haven't worked with
Michael B. Jordan, but I like a second run at
it now that I am who I am a little
more seasoned. Yep, yeah yeah yeah, so you're pulling it
together yep yeah yeah yeah, And it's crazy, bro we
(01:27:49):
talking about basketball. We most of us used to play
basketball at the twenty four hour Fitness or sub sat
and Vine, okay and subseat and Vine, And like Michael B.
Jordan's Chris Brown, Corey Halk Pooch Hall, like all of
us used to while we were waiting for auditions, you
(01:28:11):
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
And so.
Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
To be able to see him rise and do what
he's doing now, and especially with the stuff that he's
doing with Coogler bro I would love to to to
be a part of.
Speaker 5 (01:28:23):
That right in that if you could see one guest
on our show, who would it be?
Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
But you have to help us get your answer on
the show.
Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
One person that I would like, have y'all had, have
y'all had Chris on here yet? Chris Brown?
Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
No good? Let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Let me tell you why.
Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
I believe that's a good that's a good one for
one of the reasons later look the ladies like, please
don't do that, Please don't do that.
Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
Let me tell you why, but go ahead. I think
that one of the reasons why I created one of
my shows was because of what they did to Chris.
You know, he never really got an opportunity to be
in a space where he can articulate hisself and the
shit that he went through, because they are parts of
(01:29:10):
his story that I know about for sure, but it's
his place, the place to talk about another man shit, Bro.
But I love for him to be in the space
where I know he's protected and I know y'all would
protect it, and it would give him an opportunity to speak.
Chris Brown is literally one of the most talented people,
if I'm not the most val person I've ever worked
(01:29:32):
with in my whole entire life. And I really think
that Bro just always needed more men around him. Not niggas,
not male, but Bro, he just needed more men. And
the type of men that you all are, y'all don't
need nothing from him. Y'all are the type of being
that I want to see my little brother around. And
he's one of the few people in this game that
(01:29:55):
I ever really cared about, you know what I'm saying.
And I've watched him be railroaded, and something that people
don't talk about that I'm going to say on this show,
it's Chris Brown. Never Ever, he could have condemned a
lot of people. He never threw nobody. Yeah, yeah, ever,
he could have thrown a lot of niggas under the bus,
(01:30:18):
and he never did kept his mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Well, see if you heard that from your big brother.
So we're gonna make sure we cut.
Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
Well, Dave Man.
Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
We appreciate you, and obviously before we get you out
of here. I mean, it's been a pleasure to see
just again where you came from, for your music and
what you've evolved into. And I think every day, whatever
our journey is, we're trying to get better. But you've
always been one of those rare positive influences and speaking
for the culture, always putting other people first. But it's
(01:30:50):
just refreshing to hear people like you speak. I was
excited about the interview just because I think you speak
so much life, and I think that's very important in
today's day and age, because we're surrounded by so much negativity. Man,
So thank you for your time. Continue blessings if you
if you got an extra role for Jack on any
kind of movie set at Banner Vision, let him know
he's really manager.
Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
He'd be joking, but he really nobody want to see
any way more than him. Bro, Man, don't take the jokes.
I know y'all see joke. On me all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Nobody want to know only jokeuse I love him. It's
like when the coach yells at you because he loves you.
You don't anyway, man, that's a rap. David Banner all
the Smoke. You can catch us on all the Smoke productions,
YouTube and the DraftKings Network.
Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
Feel so.
Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
Mm hmmm
Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Mm hmm
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