January 10, 2024 • 32 mins
Introducing All the Smoke Unplugged, a new weekly show where Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson break down the latest in sports, entertainment, current events and life. Sponsored by Draftkings.
In the first episode of ATS Unplugged, Matt and Stak reflect on their 4-year journey from rookie podcasters to multi-media moguls. Then, they talk about Draymond's return, Jonathan Kuminga calling out Steve Kerr, Pat McAfee wanting all the smoke with a certain ESPN executive, the Katt Williams drama and much more.
Starting next week, ATS Unplugged will drop on Tuesday every week. Regular All the Smoke hero episodes will continue to drop on Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't want to say nobody around because we cool,
We're gonna fall out. You try to grab my girl hand,
Nigga pink Pin. Yeah, I'm a grab of mic Due
starts thinking.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Eddie Kane, Thank you, Eddie Kane, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Manu twenty twenty four, We hear baby. All the Smoke
Productions is officially up and running. First of all, we
want to shout out Showtime.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
We had a great partnership for three and a half
four years. Shout out everyone.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
You know who you are.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
But Jack, we're doing it on our own now, baby,
We got our own, we own hours.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
That's what we work for. Man.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Like you said, appreciate Showtime for opening that door, but
you know you gotta evolve and grow, man, and.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It's our time.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You know, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
This is a weekly show unplugged. We'll be doing where
me and Jack just get back to catching up, you know.
I think obviously All the Smoke took off and caught fire,
and we quickly and started incorporating guests, and I think
me and you kind of lost touch on the day
to day type shit.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So that's exactly what this is.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
We're gonna touch hot topics, not only around basketball, but
around sports culture in general.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And man, we're gonna have a good time. So Jack,
how you being? Man? It's you know, we got our
own shit. We're here in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Shout out DraftKings partner that with Metal Lark, John Skipper
and uh Dan Lebitar, Dan Levatar, Man, shout out our
guys really excited about that. You got a chance to
talk to them. How excited are you about this new partnership?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I am man.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
For the last like month and a half, I've been
bored out of my mind man, and dealing with a
whole bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I couldn't I can't. I couldn't wait to get back
to work, man.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
But I appreciate those guys for believing in us, for
seeing our vision, and for appreciating what we built so far.
You know, shout out to BD for everything that we
build at showtime to be able to bring this to
all the Smoke productions and do a deal with DraftKings,
So salute to them.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You know it's gonna be dope.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
What's been going on in your life day to day?
It's been a minute. How's life out there in Atlanta?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Just my darterskies into sports. My son is getting back
from a leg injury.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
But like I said, he's a senior this year right now,
to cut you off, Yeah, he is a senior and
I'm trying to get him.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm trying to get him to Georgia Tech with Bonds
and Damon Stoutlemine. Oh oh yeah, right here. But I
told you, Robin bored. I've been ready to work. I'm
not the type of sit at home and just not
do nothing, Bro. I'm ready to get back to work.
I'm excited about you know, the things we got coming
in the future.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, no, no doubt. I've been I've been busy.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I've been on the opposite you know, obviously calling games
with the Kings. We're shooting his family reality show, look
Out for the Barnes Bunch, coming to week TV mid Mark.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
How was the photo shoot?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh my fucking god, Bro, we had a photo shoot yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
We were supposed to actually shoot this yesterday and we
had to pick it up the next morning because the photoshoot.
Can you imagine the photo shoot with six kids. We
took ash with us early because it was just me
and a nonset first, and we took ash and we
couldn't really watch him obviously he was in the studio
with us, but he had about two cokes and probably
thirty pieces of candy. Oh he was self turned up,
bro geeked though I know he was atto. Shoot was
(03:03):
good man overall. Took like eight hours, but we got
it all knocked it out. Was tired of shit, but
we're back at it this morning. I got an early
morning workout. Drop the kids off and I'm here. Man
beat a good court, beat a big court case. Man,
shout out my man, DeMarcus Cousins. We got into the school. Yeah,
we got into some bullshit in twenty sixteen where we're
getting sued for eight million.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Dollars, but it didn't work. Not guilty is what they Yeah,
not guilty is what they said.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So that was a huge blessing.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
That was winning on me right before Christmas. So, Man,
we hitting twenty twenty four running. There's a lot of hold.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I got a question hold on how the kids adapt
into the cameras and the showing on.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
They love it. They love it.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
You know, at first they're a little hesitant, but anytime
you put a camera on kids, you know they're gonna
act a fool.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Man, it's gonna be a real interesting I'm looking forward
to to kind of checking that out, just to kind
of see.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You know, you open the door to your family, that's
a very sacred and private thing. But you know, we
teamed up with Jamie Fox and his company, our guy Datari,
and you know, we felt comfortable about moving forward with them.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So we shall see again.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Barnes bunch coming in mid March to WEE TV's make
sure you guys tap in Jack. A lot going on
right now, man, the sports, obviously, Golden State is a
big topic. Draymond is due back any day now. Let's
start there. You know he's been out for man three weeks,
maybe twelve games, thirteen games? Uh, we know Bob Meyer
(04:30):
stepped away at the beginning of this season. Jonathan Kminga
calls out, Steve Kerr. There's just a lot of shit
going on over there. What do you kind of make
of all this?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
First and foremost, let me let's start with Draymond.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well, I mean, we are everybody wants a teammate like
jam On. Let me just let me say that, you
know a guy that hads you back a guy that
that's gonna that's lawyer, and that's gonna ride for you
all times, and sometimes lawyer to a fault because I've
been that guy.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I love that type of teammate. Well, people say you're
a problem, but they love when you lay you at
the same time. So I get Draymond. But at the
same time, I think a lot of that comes from
his lack of production, right, I mean, like if he
was doing other things besides just besides just like making
a good pass here now and then, or actually getting
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in too it with somebody, he really not doing nothing
on the court. You know what I'm saying, He's not
a great three point and this is not this to him.
He's just not a great point shooter. This is the facts.
He's not a great three point shooter. They're not dropping
it to him to io him on it. So if
he's not really just making an impact on defense or
making good passes, he really not doing nothing in the game.
So I think sometimes that come from comes from frustration
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of him not being able to affect the game the
way he wants to, you know, offensively or defensively. So
I think that's what causes his his frustration. But like
like I just said, Greg Poppins said all the time,
the only way you're gonna win the championships you have
a guy like Draymond Green, like Stephen Jackson, like rown
On Tests.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
You need a guy like that to win the championship.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But at the same time, I think I think me
and Marano Tests will way better offensively than Draymond, way
better offensively, and we did more on both ends of
the court.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And like I said, this is not a dis to him.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I just think that sometimes he wants to impact the
game in other ways and he's just not able to
and he lashes out the wrong way.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
But I love him as a teammate.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I take I take all his thoughts on my team
because I know nine out of ten times we're gonna
win with it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, I mean, it's just an interesting situation. You know,
obviously their talks is is this dynasty done? As the
windows shut, you're hearing all kinds of different things. But
then also take it a step further with the Draymond situation,
like we don't really ever know what's going on in
people's personal life, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I was on edge going through a divorce when.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I played for the Clippers and Doc Rivers says some
shit wrong to me and I was ready to whoop
his ass, you know what I mean. So you just
never really know what people are going through, you know.
So you know when during this time, you know, I
was checking in with Bro and you know, I don't
want nothing, man, just letting you know I love you.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I'm here checking in. Sometimes we respond, sometimes he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But I think you definitely have to wrap your arms
around someone like him because that same mentality has helped
this team get four championships. You know, I mean, this
team as great as they were with Steph and you
had KD. Clay, they don't went to me in my
personal opinion, with all due respect to the greatness, they
don't win shit without Draymond because I was in there.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He's the heartbeating for that team.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
But that franchise overall, another topic that kind of came
to it that Draymond. Yeah, something that Draymond addressed yesterday
when he came back and spoke on his show Shout
Out to Bro. He just got a new deal with
the volume. He spoke about Steven A. Smith are doubting.
(07:36):
I don't even I don't know what the word is,
but he was kind of critiquing Steph's leadership, and Draymond
took a huge offense to that. Stephen A says something
to the effects of, you know, if this was Lebron,
we be crestling. Lebron has has has Steph lost the
locker room with Steph doing? How come Steph's not doing that?
How come Steph's not doing this? And I think it's wrong?
(07:57):
And today Steve and A Smith tried to come back
and say he didn't, but you know, he insinuated that
Steph didn't have the locker room. And I feel like
Jack and you know, we're the same type of players.
Draymond would have did this shit with Lebron. Draymond would
have did this shit with MJ. Draymond would have did
this shit with Cobe. Draymond is going to be Draymond,
just like we're going to be us. So to try
to point the finger and say it's Steph's fault or
(08:20):
how comes Steph hasn't We don't know what Steph has
and hasn't been doing. You know, obviously, you know, I
know Dre and Steph have a lot of love for
each other that communicate often. And I like that Draymond
called steven A out because you took a shot at
Steph and then you brought Lebron in the conversation, which
you didn't even need to, you know what I mean.
So you're creating a narrative about the Steph have the
locker room or not, as he a leader or not,
and then trying to trump that would bringing Lebron into
(08:42):
the situation. So I just love this new media and
guys are able to call the bullshit on the spot,
not let it fester, not let the narrative of just
the media live out there. Like we have our platforms
and we're able to talk too. So I was glad
he you know, he called out steven A because I
think steven A was wrong. You know, he didn't directly
say that Steph is a bad leader, but you're insinuating
(09:02):
that under Lebron's watch, this shit wouldn't happen.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
And like I said, Dre is Dre. He gonna be
Dre no matter who is around.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And I think pointing or blaming someone else or insinuating
it someone else's fault to keep him in line is wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Championship team, are struggling team. Dremont gonna be the head
of that locker room. That's just the personality we have.
But to I'm anna touch on something else. For people
that never had experience or never played in an NBA game,
this is for you. I played for the San Antonio Spurs.
Tim Duncan was our best player. He didn't have the
locker room. David Robinson, Kevin Willis had the locker room.
(09:38):
I played in Golden State. Bed was our best player,
but BD didn't have the locker room. Me and Matt
had the locker room. And even j Rich I played
in Charlotte, Well I was the best player. I didn't
have the locker room. Jee Wallace had the locker room.
So I've been I've been on different teams where it's
never the best player I.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Have the locker room.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It's always it's always the guy that's the heart of
the team, the guy that that that that's willing to
put his life on the line, the guy that walking high,
he talking, that's normally the guy that has the locker room.
So for guys that's never been in that locker room,
that's some news for you. The best player is never
the person that has the locker room.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Sometimes sometimes it is in every situation is there, But
I agree with you one thousand percent. Sometimes it's not
always the best player because sometimes the best player isn't
a vocal guy such a step you know what I mean.
That doesn't mean he don't have respect. He has respect,
But like you said, it's other Draymond has that locker room.
And I think, you know, obviously dating back to the
pool punch, I think he lost that locker room and
(10:33):
he and I discussed it during the playoffs last year
in Sacramento, where he felt like he couldn't really be
hisself because he had to earn everyone's respect back in
the locker room to really be himself. So it's been
ugly over there. You know, I fuck with all those
guys that you know, Bob got out at the right time. Boy,
Bob is sitting on ESPN and he just got a
job with the commanders hiring their next head or you know,
(10:53):
either management or head coach or something. So Bob jumps
ship at the right time. I just, you know, pray
that everything lands safely and on their feet. And I
think that Steve Kerr is coming to the end of
his run, I think he's stressed out. He got more
grays and more wrinkles than I ever recall him having.
And I think this run has been a lot on him. Man,
(11:13):
this has been nine ten years of greatness, struggles, drama, championships,
and I wouldn't be surprised if you know, in the
next year or two three, maybe that state Steve Kerr
disrespectfully steps back and takes a break, because you know,
I love Steve, and I think all this shit has
been a lot of them, which leads me to our
next topic. Jonathan Kaminga, a young up and coming star,
(11:37):
calls out Steve Kerr in the media. Jack, when we
first came in the league, you late nineties meet early
two thousands, if a young player called out a coach publicly,
what would have.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Happened now that ten times his ass was gonna be
gone that week. He's gonna they're gonna release him. He's
gonna be in back back when I was it was
the Sea, not the the CBA. Yeas was gonna be
in the CBA. You were gonna be playing nowhere around
the NBA, and then then again on your way out,
one of them bests was gonna pull you to the
side of the way out and like say, look, Jacks Feller,
don't ever do no shit like that again. This is
(12:06):
you know what I'm saying, some game and Jack yep
right quick. So it's different these days, man telling And
you wonder why Draymond act the way he do because
look at the shit they dealing with in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
These young players play when they want to, They say
what they want, they do what they want. Like it's
a lot going on. You know what, More than I
think about it, I'll be acting like Draymond too. I'll
be running around choking niggas in the game doing be
frustrated too, dog, because watching this shit is frustrating. You
know what I'm saying is watching his first rad But Kminga,
you do not have the right, Brod. I love you
as a player of young talent, but you do not
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have the right to even speak on the Hall of
Fame coach, Hall of Fame player Steve Kerr. And you
know what I'm saying, show him more respect and go
to him in private and let him know how you feel.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
But I don't think I don't even think you at
that point.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I think you at the point where you talk to
Draymond and tell Draymond how you feel, try to correlate,
to correlate that the coach. I don't even think you
have the you know what I'm saying, to be honest,
that's how I would play it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, no, I agree, and I think this was a
mistake on Comingu's part. Steve Kurr is one of one
of the most open door policy type coach. But even
to take a step further, you talk to your ogs,
you know what I mean, and listen to see what
they have to say. And you know, although Kminga's playing
well and he's been waiting for his time, and you
know his time is now, obviously they got I think
Cominga's play has wiggings on the trading block. But yeah,
(13:24):
you don't, young Feller, you don't do that in public. Obviously,
frustration and it's just a different time. People are speaking
their mind across several fronts. Sometimes it's right, but in
this particular team sport, you know, you got to go
talk to either your coach or you talk to your
star players, because you definitely don't throw that out there,
especially with all the other bullshit swirling around the team
(13:45):
now too, so he'll he'll learn from it again. We
you know, we both agree tremendous talent. This kid is
six ' ten and has it all, so I'm excited
to see his growth. I just think he made a
small mistake. He probably regrets it, but you know, he's
got to keep moving forward. On another front, a very
interesting front. Pat McAfee, someone I don't really know, got
(14:06):
a chance to do a show. A big fan of
what he does. Jack, I think we're in an air
and now of the fuck shit is gonna be called out.
I think the Diddy stuff opened the door. Kat Williams
kicked that motherfucker open, and we may touch on that
a little bit later. But I love what Pat McAfee
did here because for so long, obviously with all due
(14:26):
respect for ESPN, I had a good run with them.
That is the machine. But the days of the suits
is coming to an end. Jack, When you hear this,
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I believe him. I mean, it was it was a
It was a couple of hot powered jerks working there
when I was there. You know what I'm saying. I
just I just I just I just couldn't get in
they face. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
They would, They wouldn't come around when five was trolling
the ESPN officers smelling like those You know what I'm saying.
They wasn't doing that then, But now I feel I
feel him though, matter on real talk, because you know
what I'm saying. When I was there, man, Gena, I
had a situation where, you know, wh where I basically
called out, what's the dude name?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
They do? They say, you got always got the stories
man all the time? Woach.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I was on air with him and he did some
bullshit with Jimmy Butler, and Jimmy Butler called me right
there and I told him online but you lying, you
know what I'm saying, And Rachel.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Told me to say it nigga on air. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So so and and and then and they and they,
and it came back through I forgot his name. Somebody
came back through somebody. And while I was to tell
you that, it was a whole bunch of nonsense, you
know what I'm saying. That's why I ended up not
getting paid. That's why I end up not working there.
But man, uh now I feel him, bro, because they
you know, you don't know what to say. You don't
know when you can be yourself these days and and
and and now now it's to the point where if
(15:42):
I got to go out being myself, then so be it.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I can live with that, you know what I'm saying.
That's where we're at now. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
You got you gotta know it's it's still a fine
line because like you said, man, we know how to
disagree with people and were not without demeaning them, you
know what I'm saying, And and people always twist your words.
But at the same time, hey, man, I love it
because I feel like there's more people like me now
I ain't by myself no more.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, Noree, I think you made a great point.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I mean to if you're gonna go out, you're gonna
look at yourself in the mirror and think you're a
clown if you went out trying to portray someone else.
If you're gonna go out, you gotta go out on
you know, on your ten toes. And that was my
situation with ESPN. I got politicked out over some bullshit
that went down, but it just kind of is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I had a great run.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I felt like, you know, my face being on that
platform was what was beneficial for my career.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But you know, you know, all good things come to
an end.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Another topic is, you know, Steven A. Smith is coming
up soon and there's a lot of toxis. If they
don't break him bread like they breaking other people bread,
he might go independent. You know, Pat McAfee's the biggest
thing smoking does he really biggest things the machine behind
him anymore. So again, you always got to respect the
people that paved the way. You know, ESPN was one
of those those spaces. But at the same time, this
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talent that the content is outgrowing the old school bullshit,
the old politics, the sneak dissing, the whispering behind your
back and shaking your hand and smiling in your face,
all that shit is out the window. Man twenty twenty four,
motherfucker's is coming clean. So good luck next up man.
(17:13):
John Morant sending prayers to bro Man. It's been a
season from hell. I think he played a total of
nine games this year injury. Injured his shoulder last night.
Done for the season. You know, we always wishing well
He's one of our favorite players. Jack as the team
now who knows they're really what all due? Respecting shit
(17:35):
without him? Also a big missing piece of Steven Adams.
Where does this team go?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You play it out?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Do you make moves? Do you you know, pack it
in and understand that you still have bang, you still
have Triple J. What's the next move for Memphis moving forward?
For the you know, the second half of the season.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I just want to send a lot of love about
the giant. I know the feeling of wanting to get
back back on the court with when you suspend it.
I'm standing the whole time. You just want to get
back on the court in and get back to doing
what you love. And this happened, you know, he get injured.
So I just want to send him my love, man,
and get back on the court soon, because you know
one thing.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
We all know what he can do watch TV, yeah,
and change the game. But it's over, sob.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, you know, Jock came back by life back, they
started winning, beating good teams and all that.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Jock, it's over, baby, I mean you know what I'm saying,
It's over.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
There were still holes there though, because obviously as good
as Triple J is on the defensive end, and obviously
his offenses is looking good too. They don't rebound, they
don't rebound at all. And again, Steven Adams is an
unsung hero on that team because he held the middle down, rebound,
did all the dirty work. So yeah, I think it's uh,
it's gonna be a rough second half of the season.
I think they pack it in, see what they get
(18:47):
in the draft. Is it worth trading that draft pick
and trying to get another star because obviously it's hard
to get free agents to go to small markets such
as Memphis. So man, we're praying for joh. Good luck
to the team the rest of the way, and ship
We'll see y'all next year. I guess I think Job
be a good dratto huh. Even though Memphis is not
(19:07):
a place where everybody want to play, I think people
will come to play with Job.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think they can get somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I want to talk real quick before we move on
to the next topic.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Jack.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
The way Job plays, there's a long line of history
and there's one of the greatest to ever do with
this sitting on his bench that fell victim to this
and Derek Rose athletic jumping point guards that hit the ground,
that attack the rim with veracity. I mean, one of
our brothers, Baron Davis, was very similar to these guys
at the beginning of their career. We mentioned Derek Rose.
(19:37):
How do these guys change their game so that they
have some longevity because obviously jobs must watch.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
He's dunking on people left and right.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
He's incredible arsenal of weapons, but that ground is undefeated,
you know what I mean? So, how does someone is
talented as him kind of I don't want to say
Tony's game back, but how does he fine tune his
game that he'll have a fifteen plus year career because
he has that kind of talent.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It's kind of impossible because as a basketball player, the
adjustments you make are not trying to jump shorter or
trying to slow down, you know.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
What I'm saying, Like, Yeah, they ain't the adjustments to make.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
The adjustment you make is working on your shot, working
on your art, or what he needs to do, work
on his body, get stronger, you know what I'm saying,
that's what he needs to do. That's the adjustments you make.
I think the way he jumping the way he plays too.
It's it's too far in the game to change that,
you know what I'm saying. I think for him, he
just needs to try to find some way to get
in the locker room. That's what her ai. A I
didn't lift weights. He was just talented, but a I
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stay hurt a lot, even though he wasn't a high
flyer like Devin Rose and John Morant, but he still
was hurt a lot from going to the room and
getting knocked to the ground. So for me, John Morant,
I think he just needs to get stronger, put a
little weight on so he can so he can deal
with a lot of those falls and those bumps and
bruises from those big guys. But he don't need to
change his game. He just need to be a little smarter,
you know what I'm saying. When when I'm playing the game,
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and I think that's gonna come in time.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
M H, Peace and love, bro with your Speed, Recovery
Jack Rolling Stone, Top one hundred R and B Songs
of the twenty first Century.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
We know I'm an R and B thug.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
If I'm not listening to the Park, I'm listening to
the nineties R and B let's start at number ten,
Brandy full Moon, Rikabadu bag Lady John Legend, number eight,
Ordinary People, Alicia Keys Falling at seven, Frank Ocean Thinking
About You at six, Mariah carried my all time celebrity crush.
We Belong Together at number five, Mary J. We need
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to get married, Jay on the show Be Without You,
Beyonce Dangerously in Love at number three, DiAngelo Untitled. Number two,
and the number one song of the twenty first century
by Rolling Stone is Usher Confessions Part two. Thoughts absolutely,
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Oh okay, yeah, but you got throw me another song
out there. You think is I'm hitting you off the
top two.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Man, I'm a big Usher fan. I love Usher and
what he He had a mean run in that early
two thousands. Man, Usher was him him?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So yeah, I'm not saying that I'm not Yeah no, yeah, yeah,
going against it.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I just I just know it's something harder number one. Man.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, it's just gonna give me a minute. But you know,
shout out to Usher. You know, I album, I jam
all this music. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
I wasn't. I'm not trying to go to this concert
because I don't want the niggas singing to me, but uh.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
You don't want to sing. You want to sing to
your girl. Quite playing with yourself. You don't want to
sing to you.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, I'm just saying I don't want to sing. Nobody
around because we're cool. We're gonna fall out. You try
to grab my girl hand nigga ping ping, Yeah, I'm
a I'm a grab MiCT.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Thinking about Eddie Kane.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Thank you, Eddie Kane, Thank you?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Man?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
What's next? What's next?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Man?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
We're here again.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Obviously mentioned at the beginning. You know, we're doing our
own thing with all the smoke productions. Thank you everyone
who made that possible. We been doing our thing now
for about a month. The last episode we dropped was
Big Boy his gun story. He had two of them
things tucked under his flap jack. That shit got fourteen
million views on Crazy.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
That's crazy. The bullshit, Hey, the bullshit gets all the views.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Man, that shit was crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
That was a crazy story though, because I was reading
the comments, and you know, obviously I got a lot
of love with Big and understand excuse me, because I've
been in LA for so long that Big as an
icon here. But I was kind of worried about not
necessarily worried, but wondered how the rest of the country
would perceive him. And when I was looking at those
comments and the views and how much love he got,
I was really happy because he's such a dope human
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being with crazy stories. He's been there historical for you know,
big events that's happened in LA and you know, the
voice of the West Coast. So I was really happy
that that went overwhelm. That shit was crazy. Also, something
that they pointed out that I knew about, and I'll
add one more city to this is, you know, the
(23:59):
gun story happened in Culver City, and that is a
very racially profiling city by the cops. And one more
city I'll throwing their Manhattan Beach. They don't like black
people in Manhattan Beach either. Boy, they was fucking with
me when I played for Leagas. I think I told
that story before. So very interesting that there really are
cities we all know that, but that people are letting
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people know, like you can be arrested or pulled over
for driving with the wrong pigment out there, so.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Be careful, folks.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
One thing before we close out, Jack, I want to
touch on real quick. Cat Williams shook up the world.
And you know, obviously with the Diddy stuff, you know,
that opened up a door of I don't know if
you want to call it snitching, I'm not saying, but
it's just kind of telling your truth. I guess is
maybe the new word for twenty twenty four, tell your truth.
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So gonna happened with Diddy? Kat Williams went on with
a loaded clip and aired a lot, lot of a
lot of people out. And I know, I've been knowing
Cat for a long time, man, a really solid, authentic,
real dude. He was calling people out. Some of them
are cool with some of I don't really care about
some of them. I don't really care like Steve Harvey.
Steve Harvey's kind of always being really arrogant when I
(25:15):
ran across him, So for him to air out Steve
Harvey's whole hair piece and joke stealing that shit tickled me.
You know, I mean that shit really, That motherfucker had
a moon roof and then all of a sudden his
shit is clean. Talking about this is me, nah, bro,
I could four times a week.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
He was gluing you was.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Dying at sponge on your head four times a week.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But again, thoughts to just people again, some probably truth,
some exaggerated, some might be wrong. But I think cat again.
Like I said, the diddy stuff opened the door, the
cat stuff kicked in the door. I think, I think
I appreciate it from a standpoint of there's just been
so much dirty shit behind closed doors happening across the board.
(26:04):
Rather it be sports, entertainment, music, movies, whatever the situation,
there's a lot of fun shit that goes on behind
closed doors, and there's a lot of weird shit that
has to happen for you to climb. And I love
that people are starting to call the bullshit out because
there's so much of it. What do you think about
the bullshit being called? I know you're a fan of it.
I'm a big fan of it. Shout out to shout
(26:25):
out Katwilliams and speaking how you feel. I talked to
Mike Epps.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You know what I'm saying, because you know I met
mac Cotwilliams with you, and what he said about he
didn't roll his blunts and he smoked a brand new
one every two seconds.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
He was not lying. He didn't roll one, so it's hell.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
So he I know that's one thing he wasn't lying about,
but Mike Epps told Mike Epps told me he said
a lot of that ship was true.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
You know, all of it wasn't true, but a lot
of that shit was true.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
And uh, you know, I respect anybody that speak their mind,
you know what I'm saying, because even if you willingness
deal with the consequences behind it and ruining relationships, then obviously,
you know what I'm saying, it needed to be said
because you know, I it's been there's been times where
I want to say certain things about people, but I
(27:10):
don't care that much, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I don't care that much. You know.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I think for for people to speak their mind like that,
it's a lot of things that's that's bothering them, That
that that that they've been holding in that they need
to heal from. So it's it's imperative that they let
it out the way they need to, you know what
I'm saying. And I've been like that sometimes.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's it's times where I lash out.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Because I want the certain person to hear what I
have to say, or I felt like somebody did something
wrong with somebody and I think they got away with it,
So now I got to defend that person. That's the
same type of thing. So I respect Cat Williams for
speaking the truth of being who he is. But for
me as a person, Cat Williams is one hundred with
me and I can only speak for my experience with it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Always been one hundred. I mean, case in point, Jackie
just let off a whole clip on ESPN and you haven't.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Done it out of respect for me. So I appreciate
you holding holding your piece until no piece had to
be held, are you guys?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
You guys can catch our most recent shows sit down
and check out the LaMarcus Audridge interview Big Boy on
YouTube or the.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Draft Kings Network.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Speaking of LaMarcus, al I actually talked to Greg Odin
via DM yesterday and just told him, Man, we got
a lot of love and respect for you.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
We love to sit down with you.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I know he's a very quiet, private person, but I
think you know he's someone that doesn't talk. Another person
as Brandon Roy two guys that play with LA and
you know we'd love to get both of them.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
But Greg said he's down.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
He said probably after the college season he'll come sit
down with us, so definitely looking forward to. Shout out
Greg Oldin Man, can't wait for you to come and
tell your story, man, because I definitely think you got
a bad rap. We're headed to New York next week
and we got a hit list. So if any of
you guys hear this, we're looking for you. We want Nicki, Minaj,
(28:56):
Spike Lee, doctor Jay. I think we got Antoine Walker,
Jalen Brunson, Grandma, Ma, where are you at? I know
you were for the Knicks, Broy Yeah, Rod Strickland, the
o G Rod Strickland, Gangsta Spree, the Trail Spree. Well, Homie,
Dwan Wagner, Bassie, Me and Jack got some talking to
(29:18):
do to you.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I know you and Sebastian went back and forth.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Shout out to.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I think it was because the ship that you and
him kind of had going back and forth. Weet. Yeah,
we definitely got to sit down and burn wom with broke.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Check that out.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Lenny Cook, Alan Houston, someone I think is very overlooked
who was a killer in this day. Shout out to
world Wide West. Everywhere we go we leave a worldwide
mess West.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
We're looking for you, baby, catch us in New York
and he got stories about the brawl because he was
right there.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
In the middle of bro West is everywhere somehow, He's
on the on the field for the National Championship Games,
He's in championship parades. West Is literally everywhere, and last
but not least, Rick Pati. You know, we know you
out there at Saint John's. Now come sit down with
your boys. Lit's sit down and wrap this week. We
got one of the greatest to ever do it, andre Ward,
that'll be dropping Thursday on our YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Make sure y'all tap in for that, uh.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
And go get his book.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, definitely, definitely great book, great book, great story, so
g and really been able to kind of reinvent himself
on another level. Looking ahead of this week, man, we
got a dope slate coming for you, guys. Man all
the smoke productions. We're dropping the slate oft shows this year,
so be on the lookout. We got some big names
in in negotiation with some bigger names, so you know,
(30:37):
we're doing our thing now, you.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
We want to be a content hub where you know,
kind of the painting for model man, come mess with us.
We're gonna give you the best product for the cheapest price.
We're not gonna take your IP. We're gonna let you
keep your IP. We're gonna help you get some brand
sponsorships and really help people build what we've built. You
know what I mean Again, there's a lot of shady
business out here with people who claim they're doing shit
for the people. Man, we really and we're gonna stand
(30:59):
on that. We do it for our folks, our brothers,
our sisters. Come sit down with us, and all we
want to do is help you build your platform out
and utilize our resources and help you win. So we're
looking for people behind the scenes too. So if you're
an editor, graphic designer, all that kind of shit and
you think you're nice DM All the Smoke Productions, our
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team will check it out, will vet you, and who knows, man,
you might be able to mess with us. And that's
that's always something fun. So stay tuned for that that way,
where else anything else that way? Well, man, it's been
a good run. This is called All the Smoke Unplugged,
(31:39):
So you can check us out weekly right here. You
know where to find this, man, Jack, It's going to
be a great twenty twenty four. We just signed that
new deal with DraftKings. Shout out DraftKings love y'all so appreciate.
It's just to get it so peace and loves man.
So you can find this episode on the DraftKings Network.
Be there or keep being a square. See y'all next
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week
I don't want to say nobody around because we cool,
We're gonna fall out. You try to grab my girl hand,
Nigga pink Pin. Yeah, I'm a grab of mic Due
starts thinking.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Eddie Kane, Thank you, Eddie Kane, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Manu twenty twenty four, We hear baby. All the Smoke
Productions is officially up and running. First of all, we
want to shout out Showtime.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
We had a great partnership for three and a half
four years. Shout out everyone.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
You know who you are.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
But Jack, we're doing it on our own now, baby,
We got our own, we own hours.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
That's what we work for. Man.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Like you said, appreciate Showtime for opening that door, but
you know you gotta evolve and grow, man, and.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It's our time.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You know, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
This is a weekly show unplugged. We'll be doing where
me and Jack just get back to catching up, you know.
I think obviously All the Smoke took off and caught fire,
and we quickly and started incorporating guests, and I think
me and you kind of lost touch on the day
to day type shit.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So that's exactly what this is.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
We're gonna touch hot topics, not only around basketball, but
around sports culture in general.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And man, we're gonna have a good time. So Jack,
how you being? Man? It's you know, we got our
own shit. We're here in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Shout out DraftKings partner that with Metal Lark, John Skipper
and uh Dan Lebitar, Dan Levatar, Man, shout out our
guys really excited about that. You got a chance to
talk to them. How excited are you about this new partnership?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I am man.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
For the last like month and a half, I've been
bored out of my mind man, and dealing with a
whole bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I couldn't I can't. I couldn't wait to get back
to work, man.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
But I appreciate those guys for believing in us, for
seeing our vision, and for appreciating what we built so far.
You know, shout out to BD for everything that we
build at showtime to be able to bring this to
all the Smoke productions and do a deal with DraftKings,
So salute to them.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You know it's gonna be dope.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
What's been going on in your life day to day?
It's been a minute. How's life out there in Atlanta?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Just my darterskies into sports. My son is getting back
from a leg injury.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
But like I said, he's a senior this year right now,
to cut you off, Yeah, he is a senior and
I'm trying to get him.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm trying to get him to Georgia Tech with Bonds
and Damon Stoutlemine. Oh oh yeah, right here. But I
told you, Robin bored. I've been ready to work. I'm
not the type of sit at home and just not
do nothing, Bro. I'm ready to get back to work.
I'm excited about you know, the things we got coming
in the future.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, no, no doubt. I've been I've been busy.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I've been on the opposite you know, obviously calling games
with the Kings. We're shooting his family reality show, look
Out for the Barnes Bunch, coming to week TV mid Mark.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
How was the photo shoot?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh my fucking god, Bro, we had a photo shoot yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
We were supposed to actually shoot this yesterday and we
had to pick it up the next morning because the photoshoot.
Can you imagine the photo shoot with six kids. We
took ash with us early because it was just me
and a nonset first, and we took ash and we
couldn't really watch him obviously he was in the studio
with us, but he had about two cokes and probably
thirty pieces of candy. Oh he was self turned up,
bro geeked though I know he was atto. Shoot was
(03:03):
good man overall. Took like eight hours, but we got
it all knocked it out. Was tired of shit, but
we're back at it this morning. I got an early
morning workout. Drop the kids off and I'm here. Man
beat a good court, beat a big court case. Man,
shout out my man, DeMarcus Cousins. We got into the school. Yeah,
we got into some bullshit in twenty sixteen where we're
getting sued for eight million.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Dollars, but it didn't work. Not guilty is what they Yeah,
not guilty is what they said.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So that was a huge blessing.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
That was winning on me right before Christmas. So, Man,
we hitting twenty twenty four running. There's a lot of hold.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I got a question hold on how the kids adapt
into the cameras and the showing on.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
They love it. They love it.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
You know, at first they're a little hesitant, but anytime
you put a camera on kids, you know they're gonna
act a fool.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Man, it's gonna be a real interesting I'm looking forward
to to kind of checking that out, just to kind
of see.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You know, you open the door to your family, that's
a very sacred and private thing. But you know, we
teamed up with Jamie Fox and his company, our guy Datari,
and you know, we felt comfortable about moving forward with them.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So we shall see again.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Barnes bunch coming in mid March to WEE TV's make
sure you guys tap in Jack. A lot going on
right now, man, the sports, obviously, Golden State is a
big topic. Draymond is due back any day now. Let's
start there. You know he's been out for man three weeks,
maybe twelve games, thirteen games? Uh, we know Bob Meyer
(04:30):
stepped away at the beginning of this season. Jonathan Kminga
calls out, Steve Kerr. There's just a lot of shit
going on over there. What do you kind of make
of all this?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
First and foremost, let me let's start with Draymond.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well, I mean, we are everybody wants a teammate like
jam On. Let me just let me say that, you
know a guy that hads you back a guy that
that's gonna that's lawyer, and that's gonna ride for you
all times, and sometimes lawyer to a fault because I've
been that guy.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I love that type of teammate. Well, people say you're
a problem, but they love when you lay you at
the same time. So I get Draymond. But at the
same time, I think a lot of that comes from
his lack of production, right, I mean, like if he
was doing other things besides just besides just like making
a good pass here now and then, or actually getting
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in too it with somebody, he really not doing nothing
on the court. You know what I'm saying, He's not
a great three point and this is not this to him.
He's just not a great point shooter. This is the facts.
He's not a great three point shooter. They're not dropping
it to him to io him on it. So if
he's not really just making an impact on defense or
making good passes, he really not doing nothing in the game.
So I think sometimes that come from comes from frustration
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of him not being able to affect the game the
way he wants to, you know, offensively or defensively. So
I think that's what causes his his frustration. But like
like I just said, Greg Poppins said all the time,
the only way you're gonna win the championships you have
a guy like Draymond Green, like Stephen Jackson, like rown
On Tests.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
You need a guy like that to win the championship.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But at the same time, I think I think me
and Marano Tests will way better offensively than Draymond, way
better offensively, and we did more on both ends of
the court.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And like I said, this is not a dis to him.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I just think that sometimes he wants to impact the
game in other ways and he's just not able to
and he lashes out the wrong way.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
But I love him as a teammate.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I take I take all his thoughts on my team
because I know nine out of ten times we're gonna
win with it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, I mean, it's just an interesting situation. You know,
obviously their talks is is this dynasty done? As the
windows shut, you're hearing all kinds of different things. But
then also take it a step further with the Draymond situation,
like we don't really ever know what's going on in
people's personal life, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I was on edge going through a divorce when.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I played for the Clippers and Doc Rivers says some
shit wrong to me and I was ready to whoop
his ass, you know what I mean. So you just
never really know what people are going through, you know.
So you know when during this time, you know, I
was checking in with Bro and you know, I don't
want nothing, man, just letting you know I love you.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I'm here checking in. Sometimes we respond, sometimes he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But I think you definitely have to wrap your arms
around someone like him because that same mentality has helped
this team get four championships. You know, I mean, this
team as great as they were with Steph and you
had KD. Clay, they don't went to me in my
personal opinion, with all due respect to the greatness, they
don't win shit without Draymond because I was in there.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He's the heartbeating for that team.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
But that franchise overall, another topic that kind of came
to it that Draymond. Yeah, something that Draymond addressed yesterday
when he came back and spoke on his show Shout
Out to Bro. He just got a new deal with
the volume. He spoke about Steven A. Smith are doubting.
(07:36):
I don't even I don't know what the word is,
but he was kind of critiquing Steph's leadership, and Draymond
took a huge offense to that. Stephen A says something
to the effects of, you know, if this was Lebron,
we be crestling. Lebron has has has Steph lost the
locker room with Steph doing? How come Steph's not doing that?
How come Steph's not doing this? And I think it's wrong?
(07:57):
And today Steve and A Smith tried to come back
and say he didn't, but you know, he insinuated that
Steph didn't have the locker room. And I feel like
Jack and you know, we're the same type of players.
Draymond would have did this shit with Lebron. Draymond would
have did this shit with MJ. Draymond would have did
this shit with Cobe. Draymond is going to be Draymond,
just like we're going to be us. So to try
to point the finger and say it's Steph's fault or
(08:20):
how comes Steph hasn't We don't know what Steph has
and hasn't been doing. You know, obviously, you know, I
know Dre and Steph have a lot of love for
each other that communicate often. And I like that Draymond
called steven A out because you took a shot at
Steph and then you brought Lebron in the conversation, which
you didn't even need to, you know what I mean.
So you're creating a narrative about the Steph have the
locker room or not, as he a leader or not,
and then trying to trump that would bringing Lebron into
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the situation. So I just love this new media and
guys are able to call the bullshit on the spot,
not let it fester, not let the narrative of just
the media live out there. Like we have our platforms
and we're able to talk too. So I was glad
he you know, he called out steven A because I
think steven A was wrong. You know, he didn't directly
say that Steph is a bad leader, but you're insinuating
(09:02):
that under Lebron's watch, this shit wouldn't happen.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
And like I said, Dre is Dre. He gonna be
Dre no matter who is around.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And I think pointing or blaming someone else or insinuating
it someone else's fault to keep him in line is wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Championship team, are struggling team. Dremont gonna be the head
of that locker room. That's just the personality we have.
But to I'm anna touch on something else. For people
that never had experience or never played in an NBA game,
this is for you. I played for the San Antonio Spurs.
Tim Duncan was our best player. He didn't have the
locker room. David Robinson, Kevin Willis had the locker room.
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I played in Golden State. Bed was our best player,
but BD didn't have the locker room. Me and Matt
had the locker room. And even j Rich I played
in Charlotte, Well I was the best player. I didn't
have the locker room. Jee Wallace had the locker room.
So I've been I've been on different teams where it's
never the best player I.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Have the locker room.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It's always it's always the guy that's the heart of
the team, the guy that that that that's willing to
put his life on the line, the guy that walking high,
he talking, that's normally the guy that has the locker room.
So for guys that's never been in that locker room,
that's some news for you. The best player is never
the person that has the locker room.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Sometimes sometimes it is in every situation is there, But
I agree with you one thousand percent. Sometimes it's not
always the best player because sometimes the best player isn't
a vocal guy such a step you know what I mean.
That doesn't mean he don't have respect. He has respect,
But like you said, it's other Draymond has that locker room.
And I think, you know, obviously dating back to the
pool punch, I think he lost that locker room and
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he and I discussed it during the playoffs last year
in Sacramento, where he felt like he couldn't really be
hisself because he had to earn everyone's respect back in
the locker room to really be himself. So it's been
ugly over there. You know, I fuck with all those
guys that you know, Bob got out at the right time. Boy,
Bob is sitting on ESPN and he just got a
job with the commanders hiring their next head or you know,
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either management or head coach or something. So Bob jumps
ship at the right time. I just, you know, pray
that everything lands safely and on their feet. And I
think that Steve Kerr is coming to the end of
his run, I think he's stressed out. He got more
grays and more wrinkles than I ever recall him having.
And I think this run has been a lot on him. Man,
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this has been nine ten years of greatness, struggles, drama, championships,
and I wouldn't be surprised if you know, in the
next year or two three, maybe that state Steve Kerr
disrespectfully steps back and takes a break, because you know,
I love Steve, and I think all this shit has
been a lot of them, which leads me to our
next topic. Jonathan Kaminga, a young up and coming star,
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calls out Steve Kerr in the media. Jack, when we
first came in the league, you late nineties meet early
two thousands, if a young player called out a coach publicly,
what would have.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Happened now that ten times his ass was gonna be
gone that week. He's gonna they're gonna release him. He's
gonna be in back back when I was it was
the Sea, not the the CBA. Yeas was gonna be
in the CBA. You were gonna be playing nowhere around
the NBA, and then then again on your way out,
one of them bests was gonna pull you to the
side of the way out and like say, look, Jacks Feller,
don't ever do no shit like that again. This is
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you know what I'm saying, some game and Jack yep
right quick. So it's different these days, man telling And
you wonder why Draymond act the way he do because
look at the shit they dealing with in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
These young players play when they want to, They say
what they want, they do what they want. Like it's
a lot going on. You know what, More than I
think about it, I'll be acting like Draymond too. I'll
be running around choking niggas in the game doing be
frustrated too, dog, because watching this shit is frustrating. You
know what I'm saying is watching his first rad But Kminga,
you do not have the right, Brod. I love you
as a player of young talent, but you do not
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have the right to even speak on the Hall of
Fame coach, Hall of Fame player Steve Kerr. And you
know what I'm saying, show him more respect and go
to him in private and let him know how you feel.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
But I don't think I don't even think you at
that point.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I think you at the point where you talk to
Draymond and tell Draymond how you feel, try to correlate,
to correlate that the coach. I don't even think you
have the you know what I'm saying, to be honest,
that's how I would play it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, no, I agree, and I think this was a
mistake on Comingu's part. Steve Kurr is one of one
of the most open door policy type coach. But even
to take a step further, you talk to your ogs,
you know what I mean, and listen to see what
they have to say. And you know, although Kminga's playing
well and he's been waiting for his time, and you
know his time is now, obviously they got I think
Cominga's play has wiggings on the trading block. But yeah,
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you don't, young Feller, you don't do that in public. Obviously,
frustration and it's just a different time. People are speaking
their mind across several fronts. Sometimes it's right, but in
this particular team sport, you know, you got to go
talk to either your coach or you talk to your
star players, because you definitely don't throw that out there,
especially with all the other bullshit swirling around the team
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now too, so he'll he'll learn from it again. We
you know, we both agree tremendous talent. This kid is
six ' ten and has it all, so I'm excited
to see his growth. I just think he made a
small mistake. He probably regrets it, but you know, he's
got to keep moving forward. On another front, a very
interesting front. Pat McAfee, someone I don't really know, got
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a chance to do a show. A big fan of
what he does. Jack, I think we're in an air
and now of the fuck shit is gonna be called out.
I think the Diddy stuff opened the door. Kat Williams
kicked that motherfucker open, and we may touch on that
a little bit later. But I love what Pat McAfee
did here because for so long, obviously with all due
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respect for ESPN, I had a good run with them.
That is the machine. But the days of the suits
is coming to an end. Jack, When you hear this,
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I believe him. I mean, it was it was a
It was a couple of hot powered jerks working there
when I was there. You know what I'm saying. I
just I just I just I just couldn't get in
they face. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
They would, They wouldn't come around when five was trolling
the ESPN officers smelling like those You know what I'm saying.
They wasn't doing that then, But now I feel I
feel him though, matter on real talk, because you know
what I'm saying. When I was there, man, Gena, I
had a situation where, you know, wh where I basically
called out, what's the dude name?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
They do? They say, you got always got the stories
man all the time? Woach.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I was on air with him and he did some
bullshit with Jimmy Butler, and Jimmy Butler called me right
there and I told him online but you lying, you
know what I'm saying, And Rachel.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Told me to say it nigga on air. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So so and and and then and they and they,
and it came back through I forgot his name. Somebody
came back through somebody. And while I was to tell
you that, it was a whole bunch of nonsense, you
know what I'm saying. That's why I ended up not
getting paid. That's why I end up not working there.
But man, uh now I feel him, bro, because they
you know, you don't know what to say. You don't
know when you can be yourself these days and and
and and now now it's to the point where if
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I got to go out being myself, then so be it.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I can live with that, you know what I'm saying.
That's where we're at now. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
You got you gotta know it's it's still a fine
line because like you said, man, we know how to
disagree with people and were not without demeaning them, you
know what I'm saying, And and people always twist your words.
But at the same time, hey, man, I love it
because I feel like there's more people like me now
I ain't by myself no more.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, Noree, I think you made a great point.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I mean to if you're gonna go out, you're gonna
look at yourself in the mirror and think you're a
clown if you went out trying to portray someone else.
If you're gonna go out, you gotta go out on
you know, on your ten toes. And that was my
situation with ESPN. I got politicked out over some bullshit
that went down, but it just kind of is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I had a great run.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I felt like, you know, my face being on that
platform was what was beneficial for my career.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But you know, you know, all good things come to
an end.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Another topic is, you know, Steven A. Smith is coming
up soon and there's a lot of toxis. If they
don't break him bread like they breaking other people bread,
he might go independent. You know, Pat McAfee's the biggest
thing smoking does he really biggest things the machine behind
him anymore. So again, you always got to respect the
people that paved the way. You know, ESPN was one
of those those spaces. But at the same time, this
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talent that the content is outgrowing the old school bullshit,
the old politics, the sneak dissing, the whispering behind your
back and shaking your hand and smiling in your face,
all that shit is out the window. Man twenty twenty four,
motherfucker's is coming clean. So good luck next up man.
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John Morant sending prayers to bro Man. It's been a
season from hell. I think he played a total of
nine games this year injury. Injured his shoulder last night.
Done for the season. You know, we always wishing well
He's one of our favorite players. Jack as the team
now who knows they're really what all due? Respecting shit
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without him? Also a big missing piece of Steven Adams.
Where does this team go?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You play it out?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Do you make moves? Do you you know, pack it
in and understand that you still have bang, you still
have Triple J. What's the next move for Memphis moving forward?
For the you know, the second half of the season.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I just want to send a lot of love about
the giant. I know the feeling of wanting to get
back back on the court with when you suspend it.
I'm standing the whole time. You just want to get
back on the court in and get back to doing
what you love. And this happened, you know, he get injured.
So I just want to send him my love, man,
and get back on the court soon, because you know
one thing.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
We all know what he can do watch TV, yeah,
and change the game. But it's over, sob.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, you know, Jock came back by life back, they
started winning, beating good teams and all that.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Jock, it's over, baby, I mean you know what I'm saying,
It's over.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
There were still holes there though, because obviously as good
as Triple J is on the defensive end, and obviously
his offenses is looking good too. They don't rebound, they
don't rebound at all. And again, Steven Adams is an
unsung hero on that team because he held the middle down, rebound,
did all the dirty work. So yeah, I think it's uh,
it's gonna be a rough second half of the season.
I think they pack it in, see what they get
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in the draft. Is it worth trading that draft pick
and trying to get another star because obviously it's hard
to get free agents to go to small markets such
as Memphis. So man, we're praying for joh. Good luck
to the team the rest of the way, and ship
We'll see y'all next year. I guess I think Job
be a good dratto huh. Even though Memphis is not
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a place where everybody want to play, I think people
will come to play with Job.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think they can get somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I want to talk real quick before we move on
to the next topic.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Jack.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
The way Job plays, there's a long line of history
and there's one of the greatest to ever do with
this sitting on his bench that fell victim to this
and Derek Rose athletic jumping point guards that hit the ground,
that attack the rim with veracity. I mean, one of
our brothers, Baron Davis, was very similar to these guys
at the beginning of their career. We mentioned Derek Rose.
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How do these guys change their game so that they
have some longevity because obviously jobs must watch.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
He's dunking on people left and right.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
He's incredible arsenal of weapons, but that ground is undefeated,
you know what I mean? So, how does someone is
talented as him kind of I don't want to say
Tony's game back, but how does he fine tune his
game that he'll have a fifteen plus year career because
he has that kind of talent.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It's kind of impossible because as a basketball player, the
adjustments you make are not trying to jump shorter or
trying to slow down, you know.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
What I'm saying, Like, Yeah, they ain't the adjustments to make.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
The adjustment you make is working on your shot, working
on your art, or what he needs to do, work
on his body, get stronger, you know what I'm saying,
that's what he needs to do. That's the adjustments you make.
I think the way he jumping the way he plays too.
It's it's too far in the game to change that,
you know what I'm saying. I think for him, he
just needs to try to find some way to get
in the locker room. That's what her ai. A I
didn't lift weights. He was just talented, but a I
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stay hurt a lot, even though he wasn't a high
flyer like Devin Rose and John Morant, but he still
was hurt a lot from going to the room and
getting knocked to the ground. So for me, John Morant,
I think he just needs to get stronger, put a
little weight on so he can so he can deal
with a lot of those falls and those bumps and
bruises from those big guys. But he don't need to
change his game. He just need to be a little smarter,
you know what I'm saying. When when I'm playing the game,
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and I think that's gonna come in time.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
M H, Peace and love, bro with your Speed, Recovery
Jack Rolling Stone, Top one hundred R and B Songs
of the twenty first Century.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
We know I'm an R and B thug.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
If I'm not listening to the Park, I'm listening to
the nineties R and B let's start at number ten,
Brandy full Moon, Rikabadu bag Lady John Legend, number eight,
Ordinary People, Alicia Keys Falling at seven, Frank Ocean Thinking
About You at six, Mariah carried my all time celebrity crush.
We Belong Together at number five, Mary J. We need
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to get married, Jay on the show Be Without You,
Beyonce Dangerously in Love at number three, DiAngelo Untitled. Number two,
and the number one song of the twenty first century
by Rolling Stone is Usher Confessions Part two. Thoughts absolutely,
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Oh okay, yeah, but you got throw me another song
out there. You think is I'm hitting you off the
top two.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Man, I'm a big Usher fan. I love Usher and
what he He had a mean run in that early
two thousands. Man, Usher was him him?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So yeah, I'm not saying that I'm not Yeah no, yeah, yeah,
going against it.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I just I just know it's something harder number one. Man.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, it's just gonna give me a minute. But you know,
shout out to Usher. You know, I album, I jam
all this music. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
I wasn't. I'm not trying to go to this concert
because I don't want the niggas singing to me, but uh.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
You don't want to sing. You want to sing to
your girl. Quite playing with yourself. You don't want to
sing to you.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, I'm just saying I don't want to sing. Nobody
around because we're cool. We're gonna fall out. You try
to grab my girl hand nigga ping ping, Yeah, I'm
a I'm a grab MiCT.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Thinking about Eddie Kane.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Thank you, Eddie Kane, Thank you?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Man?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
What's next? What's next?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Man?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
We're here again.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Obviously mentioned at the beginning. You know, we're doing our
own thing with all the smoke productions. Thank you everyone
who made that possible. We been doing our thing now
for about a month. The last episode we dropped was
Big Boy his gun story. He had two of them
things tucked under his flap jack. That shit got fourteen
million views on Crazy.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
That's crazy. The bullshit, Hey, the bullshit gets all the views.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Man, that shit was crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
That was a crazy story though, because I was reading
the comments, and you know, obviously I got a lot
of love with Big and understand excuse me, because I've
been in LA for so long that Big as an
icon here. But I was kind of worried about not
necessarily worried, but wondered how the rest of the country
would perceive him. And when I was looking at those
comments and the views and how much love he got,
I was really happy because he's such a dope human
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being with crazy stories. He's been there historical for you know,
big events that's happened in LA and you know, the
voice of the West Coast. So I was really happy
that that went overwhelm. That shit was crazy. Also, something
that they pointed out that I knew about, and I'll
add one more city to this is, you know, the
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gun story happened in Culver City, and that is a
very racially profiling city by the cops. And one more
city I'll throwing their Manhattan Beach. They don't like black
people in Manhattan Beach either. Boy, they was fucking with
me when I played for Leagas. I think I told
that story before. So very interesting that there really are
cities we all know that, but that people are letting
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people know, like you can be arrested or pulled over
for driving with the wrong pigment out there, so.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Be careful, folks.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
One thing before we close out, Jack, I want to
touch on real quick. Cat Williams shook up the world.
And you know, obviously with the Diddy stuff, you know,
that opened up a door of I don't know if
you want to call it snitching, I'm not saying, but
it's just kind of telling your truth. I guess is
maybe the new word for twenty twenty four, tell your truth.
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So gonna happened with Diddy? Kat Williams went on with
a loaded clip and aired a lot, lot of a
lot of people out. And I know, I've been knowing
Cat for a long time, man, a really solid, authentic,
real dude. He was calling people out. Some of them
are cool with some of I don't really care about
some of them. I don't really care like Steve Harvey.
Steve Harvey's kind of always being really arrogant when I
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ran across him, So for him to air out Steve
Harvey's whole hair piece and joke stealing that shit tickled me.
You know, I mean that shit really, That motherfucker had
a moon roof and then all of a sudden his
shit is clean. Talking about this is me, nah, bro,
I could four times a week.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
He was gluing you was.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Dying at sponge on your head four times a week.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But again, thoughts to just people again, some probably truth,
some exaggerated, some might be wrong. But I think cat again.
Like I said, the diddy stuff opened the door, the
cat stuff kicked in the door. I think, I think
I appreciate it from a standpoint of there's just been
so much dirty shit behind closed doors happening across the board.
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Rather it be sports, entertainment, music, movies, whatever the situation,
there's a lot of fun shit that goes on behind
closed doors, and there's a lot of weird shit that
has to happen for you to climb. And I love
that people are starting to call the bullshit out because
there's so much of it. What do you think about
the bullshit being called? I know you're a fan of it.
I'm a big fan of it. Shout out to shout
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out Katwilliams and speaking how you feel. I talked to
Mike Epps.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You know what I'm saying, because you know I met
mac Cotwilliams with you, and what he said about he
didn't roll his blunts and he smoked a brand new
one every two seconds.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
He was not lying. He didn't roll one, so it's hell.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
So he I know that's one thing he wasn't lying about,
but Mike Epps told Mike Epps told me he said
a lot of that ship was true.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
You know, all of it wasn't true, but a lot
of that shit was true.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
And uh, you know, I respect anybody that speak their mind,
you know what I'm saying, because even if you willingness
deal with the consequences behind it and ruining relationships, then obviously,
you know what I'm saying, it needed to be said
because you know, I it's been there's been times where
I want to say certain things about people, but I
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don't care that much, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I don't care that much. You know.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I think for for people to speak their mind like that,
it's a lot of things that's that's bothering them, That
that that that they've been holding in that they need
to heal from. So it's it's imperative that they let
it out the way they need to, you know what
I'm saying. And I've been like that sometimes.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's it's times where I lash out.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Because I want the certain person to hear what I
have to say, or I felt like somebody did something
wrong with somebody and I think they got away with it,
So now I got to defend that person. That's the
same type of thing. So I respect Cat Williams for
speaking the truth of being who he is. But for
me as a person, Cat Williams is one hundred with
me and I can only speak for my experience with it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Always been one hundred. I mean, case in point, Jackie
just let off a whole clip on ESPN and you haven't.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Done it out of respect for me. So I appreciate
you holding holding your piece until no piece had to
be held, are you guys?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
You guys can catch our most recent shows sit down
and check out the LaMarcus Audridge interview Big Boy on
YouTube or the.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Draft Kings Network.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Speaking of LaMarcus, al I actually talked to Greg Odin
via DM yesterday and just told him, Man, we got
a lot of love and respect for you.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
We love to sit down with you.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I know he's a very quiet, private person, but I
think you know he's someone that doesn't talk. Another person
as Brandon Roy two guys that play with LA and
you know we'd love to get both of them.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
But Greg said he's down.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
He said probably after the college season he'll come sit
down with us, so definitely looking forward to. Shout out
Greg Oldin Man, can't wait for you to come and
tell your story, man, because I definitely think you got
a bad rap. We're headed to New York next week
and we got a hit list. So if any of
you guys hear this, we're looking for you. We want Nicki, Minaj,
(28:56):
Spike Lee, doctor Jay. I think we got Antoine Walker,
Jalen Brunson, Grandma, Ma, where are you at? I know
you were for the Knicks, Broy Yeah, Rod Strickland, the
o G Rod Strickland, Gangsta Spree, the Trail Spree. Well, Homie,
Dwan Wagner, Bassie, Me and Jack got some talking to
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do to you.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I know you and Sebastian went back and forth.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Shout out to.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I think it was because the ship that you and
him kind of had going back and forth. Weet. Yeah,
we definitely got to sit down and burn wom with broke.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Check that out.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Lenny Cook, Alan Houston, someone I think is very overlooked
who was a killer in this day. Shout out to
world Wide West. Everywhere we go we leave a worldwide
mess West.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
We're looking for you, baby, catch us in New York
and he got stories about the brawl because he was
right there.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
In the middle of bro West is everywhere somehow, He's
on the on the field for the National Championship Games,
He's in championship parades. West Is literally everywhere, and last
but not least, Rick Pati. You know, we know you
out there at Saint John's. Now come sit down with
your boys. Lit's sit down and wrap this week. We
got one of the greatest to ever do it, andre Ward,
that'll be dropping Thursday on our YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Make sure y'all tap in for that, uh.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
And go get his book.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, definitely, definitely great book, great book, great story, so
g and really been able to kind of reinvent himself
on another level. Looking ahead of this week, man, we
got a dope slate coming for you, guys. Man all
the smoke productions. We're dropping the slate oft shows this year,
so be on the lookout. We got some big names
in in negotiation with some bigger names, so you know,
(30:37):
we're doing our thing now, you.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
We want to be a content hub where you know,
kind of the painting for model man, come mess with us.
We're gonna give you the best product for the cheapest price.
We're not gonna take your IP. We're gonna let you
keep your IP. We're gonna help you get some brand
sponsorships and really help people build what we've built. You
know what I mean Again, there's a lot of shady
business out here with people who claim they're doing shit
for the people. Man, we really and we're gonna stand
(30:59):
on that. We do it for our folks, our brothers,
our sisters. Come sit down with us, and all we
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team will check it out, will vet you, and who knows, man,
you might be able to mess with us. And that's
that's always something fun. So stay tuned for that that way,
where else anything else that way? Well, man, it's been
a good run. This is called All the Smoke Unplugged,
(31:39):
So you can check us out weekly right here. You
know where to find this, man, Jack, It's going to
be a great twenty twenty four. We just signed that
new deal with DraftKings. Shout out DraftKings love y'all so appreciate.
It's just to get it so peace and loves man.
So you can find this episode on the DraftKings Network.
Be there or keep being a square. See y'all next
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