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July 7, 2025 26 mins

Matt Barnes, Stephen Jackson & Vernon Maxwell react to this morning’s trade between the Jazz, Heat and Clippers. Then, the guys discuss how Myles Turner’s move impacts Giannis, where Chris Paul & Damian Lillard go from here & Max’s honest prediction for Houston Rockets.

Plus, Stak shares a personal medical update & Mad Max tells tales of his 1988 NBA Summer League experience in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Unplugged. Oh man, the last Unplugged of
the season. It's been fun, obviously you brought to you
by our partner's DraftKings. What better way to close out
the Unplugged season than having my two dogs on Steven
You listen, Jesse Jackson the Third and Maxwell Maximus Glad

(00:20):
Max not mad Max.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
What's up? What's up? What's up?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's been a good season, man. I want to thank
both of you guys for jumping on and helping me
out through this season.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Jack.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
But before we get into the show, man, what's going
on with you? Talk talk to us and talk to
the fans.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Oh, what's up? Everybody actually in the airport now headed
to nap Man. Have been one of them guys that
don't go to the doctor. So I've been running from
the doctor. Like two months ago at working out a
submar tour. My my labor and my help didn't even
think it was bad. Yeah, working out, Kevin, stretching uh
to the point where I to the point where I
badley can walk. Max's been around in the last couple

(00:58):
of weeks. Some days you and some steps I take,
I'm feel like I'm about to fall down. So I
went to the doctor. I went to the doctor kept
giving out on me, and it was a little worse
than I thought. Me waiting so long, I got a
torn label. I got assist that then grew on my
hip because because of the fluid going into my hip
and my my nerves are damaged. I got a mild

(01:19):
case of stoliosis, and uh, they got to go out
and clean some stuff out of my back to the bar.
So I'm in the airport head of then.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Now good luck and prayers? Is it the indie doctors
doing it? The Pacer doctors and you just found a
good doctor out in Indy.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Shout out to Josh Corbilla and the Pacers doctors. Man,
you know, that's that's what they family know. I want
a championship with the Spurs, but nobody cheat me like family,
like the Pacers in the Golden State Warriors.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
So they take good care of me.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
I called John, I called Josh, told him about my issue.
Got me right in seeing the doctors. That was I've
seen the doctors, Matt, but four days ago. Now I'm
having surgery too, so they're taking great.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Care of it.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
So what's the plan though, So this is going to
be hip surgery, not back surgery.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, they're going into my bank. So he told me
when when he going and cleaning out because my bottom
dish is gone. So he's going in there and clean
some stuff out of my back and making sure my
nerves is proper and fixing all this stuff in my
back is gonna make everything in my hip.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Hell, so he don't have to go on my hip.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
If I would have waited two months later, I would
If I would have waited two muths later, Matt, I
would have needed hip replacement and screws in my back.
So God blessed me for going early.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Hey, man, Hey, that body's been through a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, we put our bodies through a lot, bro.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
You was you dine pounded the concrete, You dine pounded
the hardwood, You dine pounded face first from being hit
by cars. That body been through a lot.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Ship, Hey, I'm just thankful for the seven years old.
It's my first time having sergain.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
So I take man with speedy recovery.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
So you're gonna be down a minute thing. What two weeks?
Four weeks? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
But you know you know it? What was? Man? We
don't never do what the doc say. The doctor. I'm
gonna be down a month, but I'm looking at by
two weeks.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
How about for once, you just listen to the motherfucker
and stay down as long as you need to, because
the back is something you don't want to play with,
all right, So this leads me to my next This
leads me to my next question. Who is the head
coach of the Big three squad? Now?

Speaker 4 (03:01):
I missed the week already and and Max did a
great job. The guys didn't didn't respond like we want
them to, but Max did a great job.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
So yeah, he's definitely gonna hold it down.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah, I got my brother back, man, Goddamn, I got
his back back. Then we need to get a goddamn
win this weekend. No, god damn guys, come on now, ship,
God damn, damn motherfucking goddamn Max Ball.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
We got a tough motherfucking game this weekend.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
No, goddamn it.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
We got the three oh five Beasley and Mother and
I had all that, I got, all this ship to
dancing and all this bullshit gonna go on. I gotta
talk to these guys fold the goddamn game and until
the goddamn lands and old goddamn bees and y'all chill now,
goddamn now.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Y'all chill. You'll gotta do all this shit. But we're
gonna go. We want to ask, so we're gonna compete.
We're going to compete.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
No fuck this ship, Max, they gonna be dancing and
talking ship too. Y'all better hold it down.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
You know, theseus gotta show out Boston, So we're gonna
be ready. Though, we're gonna compete. We're gonna it's gonna
better than what the fuck they think it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Sh ain't gonna definitely ain't gonna be sweet. So obviously
the season doesn't end. Summer league is in full swing
already for some of these younger players. I caught some
highlights of the young boys getting up and down. But
speaking of summer league, Max, I'm gonna start with you,
what do you remember what what year was your summer league?
And where was it?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
We're in where we were? And uh they we was?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I forget what the we were?

Speaker 1 (04:20):
What year was it?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
That was in nineteen eighty eight? Eight?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
And god damn, Max, I was in third grade. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I was smoking.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Uh motherfucker, you was you was ten or eleven years old,
you was going open. So I told you that, yes, yes,
that's not even been through a lot. But where was
your summer league, Max?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
And what was it like?

Speaker 5 (04:56):
It was in Vegas, and it was okay, I was
gonna make little contract and ship. You know, I wasn't
even signed up, so I had to go out there
and perform ship. So I went out there and bust
some motherfucker's asses, you know, and then and after, you know,
as soon as you know, after we played, I think
we played like two games out there, and the motherfucker signed.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Me on up for you know, during the during the
summer league that I was, I was killing motherfuckers out there. Yes,
sir Jack, what was your summer league experience like it?
What year was it?

Speaker 4 (05:27):
My best summer league experience was I think in two
thousand two playing with the Spurs.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I was cooking.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I was cooking right summer league. So I got drafted.
I don't know if you guys remember, but I got
drafted with Dwan Wagner. I think he was a top
five pick to Cleveland. And then Carlos Boozer, Uh, same
draft to Cleveland and never really got a chance man,
I played Ship two or three games and didn't really
even get a chance to play. And I remember John
Lucas was the coach. He just wasn't fucking me for

(05:55):
some reason.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I was out.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I was out the window. And then I got I
went to the G League and fave Build, North Carolina.
Oh my god, that's what me. Put my foot on
the gas, like, well, no, I can't do this. One
thing I remember about favor that's where j colest from.
But what I never about Faveville was it's a it's
a it's an army, it's an army town. And I

(06:17):
always wondered, like I wouldn't go out, But I probably
say I went out maybe three or four times, and
every time I went out there was always fights. I'm like,
your wives are always fights? Like it was always fights.
And they say, these military dudes come home and their
wives been fucking with dudes while they are on the road.
There's only one spot to go, so they used to
get down with the get down at this one bar.
I'm like, man, I can't do this out here. I

(06:38):
got to get the fun out of here. Man. So Ship.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
All bad?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, Luckily, yeah, luckily, I stayed out the way, bro
I stayed all had me a little tree leader out there.
I stayed out the way. So but anyway, Yeah, the
summer league is back. I saw some highlights of bronni Uh.
You guys know each year getting a chance under your
belt where he played in the G League, and how
much smoother and more confident he's gonna look this year.
So I'm excited, you know, to conaedia, to tie in

(07:09):
to watch some of these younger players play and see
what their experience is like. And to the young players,
if you happen to see this, man, obviously do what
you do. But there's been plenty of guys that have
been successful that may have had off summer league, So
don't it's not the end of the world you have
an off summer league. If you have a good summer league,
you know, good luck to you and congratulations. But for

(07:29):
the guys, the big players that don't have, you know,
good summer leagues, man, that shit don't mean nothing. Just
be ready to work in training camp and get your
journey off to the right foot.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Fella.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
There's a big trade that went down Monday morning, John
Collins headed to the Clippers. I really like that move.
Norman Palell goes to the Heat, Kevin Love and Kyle
Anderson go to Utah. Kevin Love will probably be bought out.
He's near the end of the back end of his career.
What I want to talk about the trade. Obviously Norman
pale is a big piece UH to move, but I
think the Clippers made this move with something in mind.

(07:58):
And obviously there's been about Bradley Beal and possibly CP
three going to the Clippers. But if you think about this,
this could be a potential James Harden, Bradley Beal, Kawhi Leonard,
John Collins, Zubac and then possibly a CP three coming
off the bench. I think that puts the Clippers. I

(08:19):
mean they're a little bit older, but I think that
puts the Clippers in a good space in the West.
I mean, you know you obviously, Okay, see is up
there and we'll talk about Houston and Denver, But what
are your thoughts about the Clippers and potentially UH making
some of those moves.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Tell why you don't like.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
It, como sound. I do like getting rid of normal Pile.
I think he played great last year.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
He had he was a great offensive side but I
don't think he made the team better. He played great,
but he didn't make the team better. He's a great player,
gonna do that. He's gonna he gonna do well in Miami.
Chris Parr going back, I don't know how that's gonna
work with James ben Down, I don't quiet.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I don't know how that's gonna work.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
But I will say this, the person that they need
is not scrit Chris Paul. I'm not saying I know
who it is, Matt, but I don't like. I don't
like the adding Chris Paul, James hard and I don't
I don't like all that.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
That's not you.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
You need another You need to add another guy that's
willing to do some more of the dirty work.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
James ain't doing no dirty work.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Kawhi only could do so much, So you got to
bring a guy that's willing to be the dirty work
on both ends of the floor.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Chris probably the guy I love CP.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
I want to see him go out on the high note,
and I don't think the high note I wanted to
see him go out.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
On is with the Clippers.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Max stuts a lot of damnaged goods on that motherfucker
and then and then they break it in ce Fee three,
I love you to death. Cepee three. They about to
hang their motherfuckers up. But I just think, man, they're
gonna be They're gonna make the playoffs. They're gonna do
what they do all every year. I mean, solid team
with a lot of veterans on the motherfuckering a lot

(09:47):
of play you know, but they ain't gonna win no
damn championship.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
So it like that.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I like potentially bringing in a Bradley Beal. I feel
like he has a lot to prove. He was a
big time scoring of scoring champ Nate if I'm not mistaken,
while he was in Washington, two years in Phoenix didn't
necessarily work out how he expected it. He's gonna get
bought out. They could probably get him for a good number.
But I think, you know, at one point we were
talking about he was one of the best two guards

(10:13):
in the league, and that wasn't that long ago. So
I think for him to kind of have a chip
on the shoulder, I think he's no trade clause and
the amount of money make kind of painted him as
a bad person or a bad player. But if you
look at his numbers, you know, fifty percent from the field,
eighteen nineteen points a game. You know, if he's in
a better situation. And I think, to me, this lends
to James, because James is someone that's twenty two eight

(10:34):
and six. But I can see James going down to
eighteen ten and six and making more room for Bill
to be able to do what Bill does, someone that
we know can score the ball. So I'm interested. And
then again Tylu being one of the best coaches in
the game, so I'm interested in seeing this. I would
love to see Jack to your point, I would love

(10:55):
to see cepe Land in a space. I've actually been
talking to CP a lot lately, and I think it's
year twenty one and he announced it's going to be
his last season. But his goal is to obviously be
closer to the family. You know, his son, little Chris,
is really starting to make a name for himself in
the AAU space. We just seen him all last weekend,
and I know it's important he wants to play another
but I know how important it is to be president

(11:16):
and be a dad. So getting him somewhere in California,
I think is the goal. So whether that be the
Clippers or another California team. I hope that ends up
working out from but I'm really interested in seeing what,
you know, this turns into for the Clippers. If it
goes as planned, Dame gets is it? Did he get
bought out?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
They spends his contract, they stretched.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
It, They stretched it over four years, So basically he'll
be getting twenty two nearly two and twenty two and
a half million dollars over the next four years. I
guess you know, it's it's up in the air. Now,
will he rehab by hisself or will he joined an organization.
Possible names that have been thrown out there, Boston, Golden
State would be going home, Miami. Uh, you know, Portland

(11:55):
is probably a place too. But what Dame is thirty
five if I'm not mistake, coming off of Achilles, and
although Achilles isn't what it used to be as far
as coming back, he is a smaller guard. But the
reason why I think Dame will be okay is because
his game is never dependent on athleticism, you know, I
mean his strength, skill set, and ability to shoot the ball.
I mean, he'll probably take a little bit to get

(12:15):
back there, but I don't think it's going to be dramatic.
I think the defensive end is something we're gonna have
to wait and see, because he wasn't super strong on
that side anyway. But what do you guys think about,
Dame If you guys were in this situation, would you
guys rehab it out with your doctors and then kind
of pick and choose where you, you know, want your
healthy where to go. Or would you jump on with
an organization, be able to rehab around the team with

(12:36):
team doctors and still kind of build that chemistry as
you're rehabbing Jack, what would you do you're about to
get surgery.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
If I was dang, it'd have to be the right situation.
I'd go somewhere where I got a good chance of
being a champion. My role is not high. I got
to come off the bench or whatever.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
You know. But it all depends on where it is.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Matt, I think he's I think if it's a good
situation where he can come in and have a nice
road and hip a team win the championship when he
does get healthy, I think he works that out with
that team. But until he finds that you got to
rehab on your own. You're getting paid twenty something being here,
you've been making a lot of money. You can have
all the same resources outside of the outside of the
NBA that they have, you know what I'm saying. But

(13:16):
I think, but just rehab until you find your situation
that's good for you. Didn't rehab with.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
The team, do it on his own, rehab on his
own and get itself back together. And you know, it's
gonna be a whole year before he come back. Shit,
motherfucker ain't coming back next year. So I mean, he's
out for a whole fucking year. So but it just
got to concentrate on himself, man, and get itself back together.
And then you know, once he gets hisself back pretty
much healthy, then he concentrate on where you want to

(13:42):
go and try to put itself in a good situation.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So yeah, but let's pick it back off what Jack said.
But yeah, he just got to get himself back healthy, man,
and do it on his own.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
He got enough goddamn money, motherfucker making a bunch goddamn money,
so he can he can rehab.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
And like Jack said, he got alder, He's sources and
everything he needs.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
So yeah, just yeah, he'll be fine though.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Ship Well, today we wish you nothing but luck. Also
Tatum Man, Halliburton, all the guys that went down this year.
I know we're missing some Kyrie. Wish you guys all
man healthy, speedy recoveries. And we're looking forward to you
guys getting in the right situations and getting back on
the floor. Before we move on to this the Bucks,
the team that stretched Dame, what are they doing? I'm confused,

(14:27):
and I mean Miles Turner for what they give him
four four one oh seven? Is that that much of
an improvement from Brook Lopez who's running the team now.
Obviously Giannis is the man, but you know you need
guards to make that engine roll. Just a lot of
weird decisions.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Is is it time to to to pack it in?
And I can only imagine what you get with Giannis
on the on the trade market. Is the time to rebuild?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, rebuildings.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
You got to cut the cord with you let this
motherfucker goal because he don't want to be there, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
So and uh, but yeah they're rebuilding.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Uh situation, that shit is all fucked up over there
in Milwaukee now, and especially when they your main man
don't want to play with you, no more than.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
He done gave you everything he could give you get
them been.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I mean, he's that man.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Could have been left and he stayed there. You know,
they say he's you know, he likes you know, you know,
he don't like to move around a lot. So but
it's a good situation for Hi, man. I just think
they are rebuilding situations. Man, they got damn Milwaukee Bucks.
They just just ships trash over there.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
I wouldn't even want to go there. I wouldn't even
I wouldn't even want to. I wasn't even want to
go ahead and play.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
But once they traded middles in a way that that's
when things start going downhill. He was a big part
of what they did. He had got hurt and he
had missed a little time out, and they they didn't play.
They played a little bit, they played better a little
bit without it. Then they got rid of them. They've
been going down here since now. Don't really know he
want to be there. And then now you gotta think, bro,
how many people want to play for doc in Milwaukee?

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Like like.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Bro, like they I think they had them. I think
they got to blow that all up.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
See what I think though, too also is adding to that,
and I think it's a similar thing that Denver did,
the small pieces that help you get to that championship,
you know what I mean, The PJ Tuckers and and
and the smaller pieces when you kind of let them go.
In this similar on the flip side where Denver let
go of Bruce Brown and Jeff Green and guys are instrument.
Although they were able to resign Bruce bound for three million,
so they got him back a year or two later.

(16:28):
But you you know, you kind of forget obviously, you're
you're you're you focus on your start, your core stars,
but role players make that shit go. And I feel
like both those teams kind of let crucial guys go. Luckily,
Denver was able to rebound and rebuild, but Milwaukee hasn't
been able to do that. So it'd be really interesting
to see if Giannis, you know, packs it up. Like
you said, MAXI brought an MVP there, he brought a
championship there. We all know Milwaukee lifestyle is is is

(16:51):
not something you you strive for, you know what I mean?
And you see this band's buying houses out in New
York and moving around big cities now, so I think
he might be getting that inch.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, we're gonna see you definitely want to Pacers.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I mean, Jack, you're headed to Indy right now. You
were there throughout their run. What I mean, Holly's out
within Achilles, you you Miles Turner's gone?

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Uh? What is? What is?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
What is their strategy moving forward? Are they just you know,
biding their time until holler Burton gets back? Do they
they trade some people away for some assets. What do
you guys think their play should be?

Speaker 3 (17:26):
The Forida team is still there.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
I think they plan on making some moves to do
some things at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Go yard Denmark got to cut my ball and he
gotta be more aggressive.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I think it's gonna be good for him because you
get to come out aggressive and really get itself going.
I'm not gonna be the same team without Holliburton, but
you got the same quarter team and all those guys
play hard. I think they're gonna be alright, especially in
the East. I think they're gonna be alright.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Trade with big old soft fast is as when a.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Ship that.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
Got damn threes, man, get your ass on them.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Block man. So hopefully they block over there most Max.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
That's how we love you, Max, because you're talking. You're
talking from a lot of players, our fans, respective, but
also like an old school like bro. You're bigger than
everyone on the court, and you want to keep yourself
on the perimeter the whole TI. I mean, I don't
mind the perimeter, but mix it in. You mean, mixed
in that block and take advantage of that. But it's
crazy you say, Hey, you said it best. Max.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
That's all I have to say about that, all right, Man, With.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Safe travels, safe surgery, and we'll see you soon. Your Rockets, Max.
They made some moves we haven't spoken since Kevin Durant.
In the seventeam deal, Rockets received Kevin Durant and Clint Cappella.
Soun received Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks. Houston also signed
Dorian Finney Smith to a four year, fifty fifty three

(18:50):
million dollar deal, and they re signed Jabari Smith and
Steven Adams. Solid move for your boys.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I love the moves.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
I love every damn thing they haven't done over there
in Houston. Man, they're trying to really win one. I
think they put themselves in a good position to be
one of the.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Favors this year. I mean we ship.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Like I kept saying, all these motherfuckers needed to do
what the Rockers needed to do.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Get a motherfucker.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
You could roll that ball out too and go get
a goddamn bucket, And we got him now.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
One of the greatest to ever do it. You want
to be able to ever roll the ball out and
go get you one. Kevin Renst the greatest to ever
do it, And I agree with you. I felt like
they were missing. They were a good young team that
played hard, a good coach, but they missed that one
guy that every single night is gonna give you what
do you have? Twenty seven last year? It will probably
you know, six five seven next year, that consistency. He's

(19:41):
got a bunch of young dogs that are gonna play
hard for Kevin too, you know what I mean. They
on his last run and then young boys are gonna
be motivated to play hard for him and help him
get one on the way. So I'm really happy for
you guys and what you were able to do. Man,
they continue to improve. Another team that I feel got
better was Denver. They traded Michael Porter Junior for Cam Johnson.

(20:04):
Michael Porter's owed seventy nine million over the next two seasons.
Cam Johnson Is owed forty three over the next two seasons,
so you know, nearly thirty million dollars thirty plus million
dollar difference. They were re able to sign an instrumental
Swiss Army Knights for their championship run, Bruce Brown for
only three million, and then they got Valentiunis, who was
in talks about jumping over the waters and Denver said, noah,

(20:26):
fuck that bro, they traded for you. You go on
your contract. But all jokes aside to me, Valentunis is
one of the best backup bigs in the game. Yeah,
very solid, double, double, hard nosed, physical. You'll find his out.
He likes to shoot that you know, awkward looking jumping
from the mid round, but he'll be on that block too.
He'll definitely just block work. So I think that's a

(20:48):
big move. So you look at what Cam you get,
Murray Cam Johnson, Christian Bron Peyton Watson, Aaron Gordon, Bruce Brown,
Tim Hardaway Junior too. They picked him up, which is
a very solid pick up. And then Valvenchunis and you
put that all around and this team was what they took.
They took okay, see to seven? Right, Yes, I mean

(21:09):
they got they definitely got better. So uh, between these
two maxis two teams we just mentioned, who's had a
better off season thus far? Has it been Houston and Denver? Man,
it's hard, it's hard to say about them. And I
was talking to the producers too, and it's crazy. It's
hard for me to say that a team you get
Kevin Durant and you your team didn't have the best

(21:31):
off season. But doubt Denver has been able to put
a lot around and and they've been able to add
these to it already a championship proven team. I really
like what Houston's done And to your point, I think
they put theirselves right in contention. I think it's going
to be Denver Houston as the top three teams in
the Western Conference. But both teams man have had great

(21:51):
off season thus far, and it really kind of shone
the lights on the on the teams that that haven't.
You know, you look, you look at Phoenix like, okay,
now you're buying out Bradley Beal and and what are
you getting in return? You lose, you lose Kevin Bryant.
You know Milwaukee, you stretch Dame and you sign Miles Turner,
Like you see how important I think a lot of
people just don't appreciate how important a solid foundation from

(22:13):
ownership to management is on.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Building these teams.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
We've seen the NIXT struggle for so many years and
they finally got some good management in there, and you
see the product on the court. I tell people, man,
I don't care what the fuck you have on paper.
If your management and ownership is sideways, it'll never it'll
it'll never turn into Because you know, when up Top
Max is the last show of the summer for the season,

(22:37):
what is one bold prediction for next year? What's something
you want to hang your hat on that remember this
day and we're gonna click this ship and next year
we're gonna say, Max, Remember you said this ship on
this day. What is that prediction for you?

Speaker 6 (22:50):
I got damn Rocket's gonna win the championship.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I ain't met at.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
I love it it.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
That's what it is. What's yours?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I'm a thinking one normally as the host, I just
have to ask you motherfuckers that I don't really have
to what is a bold prediction. What is a bo predition.
I think Bradley Beal has a very solid season next year,
and he reminds people why just you know, three or
four years ago he was considered one of the best
two guards in the game. I think a bounce back

(23:24):
season for Bradley. Good dude, bad situation and then you
know how the all the noise starts with that. But
I'm happy. I'm happy he's going to get his chance
to really spread his wings and and find it the
love for the game again. And so that's my It's
not as big as yours.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I like Bradley.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
He a Gator, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I mean he went to Flaw so I fucked with him. Yeah,
he's a Gator.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
So does Lebron finished as a Laker next season?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Absolutely? Absolutely? I mean what was saying that? Who's saying that?

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Ship Dylan deal to start with all that bush Dylan,
what are you talking about, Buddy, don't do that to yourself.
Hell no, Bron ain't going no motherfucker. Well, hell no,
that man in LA for Yeah, he's going now, He's
not going nowhere.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Well, Max Man, we appreciate you on behalf of the company. Man,
We're excited to have you as a part of the family.
As we continue to grow. We got some good stuff
coming up for you. I know, we're working on the
animated mad Max series that that we're gonna be bringing
to life. And then also tell me a little bit
about deep friud about you and stacking what you guys
got going on to something with deep fraud.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
Well, shit, it's gonna probably be put on hold for
a second because you know, my man gotta go up
under the knife. So but it's a it's a show
that we're gonna be in a in a uh sprint van,
you know, doing what we do, smoking that good motherfucker
majajuana and ain't got damn.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Got damn going around just eating all kind.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Of different types of foods and ship and and me
and this motherfucker he the ship either and he don't
really either. He's a picky eater too. So it's gonna
be funny as hell, man, We're gonna it's gonna be
some craziest funny ship man. You know, we're gonna be
high as hell too, So it's gonna that's why we
call it. Yeah, So it's gonna be a real good,
serious I can't wait for it.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Man.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
You guys, let me know when you bring that sprinder
out to La and pull up to the house, I
will hop in and then.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
The sunna do that. Absolutely do it.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Before we get out of here, I want to send
my love to my man, Jean Roebuck, one of my
business partners. I coached his son since he was a
young boys, one of the top upcoming high school players
in the country. But Jean had a stroke last week
and went in and had emergency brain surgery. Man, So
we're sitting glove. He's the one that always cater. He
caters for our company all the time, makes all kinds
of amazing food.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
So Jean, sending a lot of love and prayers out
to you and the family. Little Genea bro. Yes, yes,
I'm here for you guys. We love you and and
and then we're playing for another speedy recovery.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yes please.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well that's a wrap unplugged. Hope you guys enjoyed this season.
You can catch this on all the Smoke Productions YouTube
and the DraftKings Network. Stay tuned. We're gonna have some stuff.
We're not gonna have shows, but we're gonna have some stuff.
Coming for you, guys man. We're working on some dope
stuff to fill this void, and we will see you
guys in October
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