December 9, 2025 • 52 mins
Shedeur Sanders turned heads against the Titans…and Matt Barnes & Mad Max have PLENTY to say. After the rookie’s best game yet through three NFL starts, the crew unpacks the pre-draft disrespect, the media double standard with Baker Mayfield & Johnny Manziel, and why they believe the backlash is more about Deion than football.
Plus, Max unloads on what he sees as a system built to stunt Shedeur’s growth.
Also in this episode of ATS Unplugged:
• Is Patrick Mahomes’ Chiefs run slipping?
• LeBron’s Lakers surge and real title chances
• Chris Paul’s messy Clippers exit and the NBA’s respect problem
• Sparks or Fire: Kuminga trade rumors, Warriors ceiling & more
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Unplugged. This episode is presented to you
by DraftKings. The crown is yours today. I'm accompanied by
none other than my brother Vernon Maxwell, and we will
get to him in a second. I want to start
with Shador Sanders had his third start on Sunday and
his best game of his rookie season. But a lot
has been said disrespectfully about Shador over the last year
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or so.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Let's take a look back on this timeline.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Sharduor was a four star quarterback out of high school
in twenty twenty one, flipped his commit commitment from FAU
to go play with his dad at Jackson State one
Offensive Player of the Year and HBCU Player of the
Year back to back SWAG championships at Jackson State University,
and then him and Pops decided to take their talents
to Colorado in twenty twenty three. When they went there,
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the team was one in eleven, one in eleven the
season before they got so let's just keep that in mind.
Shoudoor through twenty seven touchdowns and three picks in his
first season at Colorado, but they still finished with the
four and eight record. Was able to you know, really
jump into the portal the following year and get some
recruits and really kind of start having players that Dion
was looking forward to having over that time. The media
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after that first season being four and eight, considering they
were one and eleven, but they still wanted to talk
a lot of shit about four and eight. They were frauds.
A lot of labels and disrespect was being thrown around
after that first season. His final season, his senior year,
he threw for over four thousand yards, led the Big Twelve,
thirty seven touchdowns, led the Big Twelve, and led Colorado
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to a nine to four overall record, first winning season
in Colorado since twenty sixteen. He won twenty twenty four
Big Twelve Offensive Player of the Year, became the NCAA
all time leader in completed percentage, and was projected I mean,
after the season we were here in top five, top ten,
but Deathy was projected as a first round pick. And
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this is when shit starts getting spoky. The draft in
April twenty twenty five, he falls all the way down
to the fifth round. Suspicions start to rise over his
draft status and his fall all kind of behind the scenes.
No one really knows what the deal is, but somehow
this guy slipped to being what it was.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
He the sixth quarterback taken.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
If I'm not mistaken, cam Ward went one, Jackson Dark
went twenty fifth, Tyler Shock went fortieth, Jalen Melrow went
ninety second, and his running mate in Cleveland, Dylan Gabriel
went ninety four. When you think of Shador with the numbers,
the eye test again, everyone had him a first round
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pick for sure. A lot of people had him higher
than that. Initially after the draft, the critics were quick
to talk shit. A former Jets scout Daniel Kelly said
one hundred percent bus rate, an immature, passive, aggressive, hothead
NFL practice squad talent with a Hall of Fame name.
That was Daniel Kelly. They said former next to his name, right,
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That's probably because he had dumb ass takes like that.
Quotes from retired I used to like Merril Hodge too.
Sanders will be an epic failure. He will set the
franchise back at least two or three years. Set what
franchise back? This by the fucking franchise has been set
back fifty years, But a fifth round pick is gonna
send him back two or three years. That made a
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lot of sense, Merril, and then this is the anonymous people.
The anonymous people are bitches, all anonymous. Anyone that does
anonymous across the board and anything, you're a bitch. If
you're gonna talk shit, put your name on it. Sanders
was brash and arrogant in his pre draft interview, so
that Baker mayfielder Johnny Manzel bravado that they got away
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with their whole careers, their raw roshit is okay because
it's them.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But let a.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Confident young black man come in with the same confidence,
someone who was raised for this, was trained for this,
and it's arrogant.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So we already know what the deal is.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
In the preseason, Shudor confronted a reporter Tony GROSSI is
that how he say his name?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Gross?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
See, this dude is a fucking hater. And there's even
people I want to say in Cleveland Radio. I want
to say Cleveland ESPN that used to get on this
guy when this he first started hating on sure, but
who has been about browns beat reporter for over forty years.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Let's take a look at what he said in the preseason.
I'll be hoping you be I'd be hoping you got
some classics save up.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
You say negga stuff out, and I'm like, I ain't
do nothing to you.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I ain't see none.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Cassive. I come on, I'll be hoping.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You be I'd be hoping you got some classics save up.
You say neggar stuff out, and I'm like, I ain't
do nothing to you. I ain't see none passive.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So even with that, although we did nothing but talk shit,
that's still a respectful, almost playful energy towards him when
he if he would have caught a different kind of person,
it might have been a little more extra. And then
after his first start with the Raiders, reporters tried to
bait him. Let's take a look at what they asked
right here, those fourth.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And one, those two fortund ones.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It didn't work.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And did you like, Kevin Heaven the aggressiveness there.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Even backed up in your care purkey.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I mean, first, that's a rude question to ask, if
I'm if I think you know it was a great call.
But my coach, you know, like you like the call,
like do you like being out there playing? So so
whenever that comes, when it comes with you know, like
you know We're not gonna be here and every point
figure out, no coach or doing anything like that. You know,
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that's extremely disrespectful and that's not even in my place.
So I'm thankful for being out there, honestly, and I'm
thankful that he trusted us as an offense to be
able to go out there and be able to execute.
Did we execute, No, we didn't, But you know, I'm
just thankful that we have that trust.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
After the Titan game, Tony's back asking him more dumb
ass questions, trying to get him to say something.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
If I'm out there any play, you know, I would
wish I would always have a ball in my hand,
but that's not what football is. Sometimes you got to
run the ball, sometimes you got to kick a field goal,
you know everything.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I like, that's the game. That's the game. That's the
most important thing is the ball.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
So in any situation, of course, you will want to
But I know we practiced something, and we executed it
in practice, and we just didn't seem to this day.
So I would never I would never go against you know,
kind of like what the call was or anything.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Did it work in practice?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
No, we just called it in the game and it
didn't work in practice. I don't think you called plays
in a game that didn't work in practice.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know what what I love about Shador is win
or loss, it's you know, there's a smile on his face,
there's an appreciation of the opportunity, there's a thankfulness. And
he's never thrown his teammates under the bus. He's never
thrown his coach under the bus, even though his coach
he's to be thrown off the fucking bus. But he
continues just to do things the right way. And I
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think that's what really bothers people. When you can lose
and answer with the smile, and answer with grace, and
answer with arrogance. Still, for some reason that those people
the wrong way. There's been forty two players to start
the quarterback position. Only three in those seasons in the
twenty five year history did the same quarterbacks start the
next season. That's Tim Couch and Baker Mayfield in nineteen
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and twenty. Shador recently revealed was the most searched player
because people love, lover hat him. They're gonna look at him.
Now we're here with Max and now we're here with Shador.
I jumped around a little bit because it just bothers
me with just the just the just the hate. Obviously,
last game said the Browns rookie record for passing yards
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in the game, most passing yards by a rookie this
season and his three starts, he has seven hundred and
twenty two yards, five touchdowns, two picks, and a fifty
eight percent completions percentage. Max, when we when you hear
me go through this line and you know, kind of
poke fun at the people who are being disrespectful. And
now that he's and again the record doesn't show it,
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he's only one in two unforsely, but there's been some
really weird core coaching decisions that will obviously get into
But when you kind of look back over this situation, Max,
how do you feel that he shuldor himself has handled
everything from the jump?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Always, you know, the Sanders family, they're always going to
be professionals. They're going to be above everything, all that
other shit, all that turnmoil and all that other shit,
and these conspiracy shit.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
That they put on this kid.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
And I mean, I mean, and we got to understand
right that we understand that the standards the family, they're
strong minded people.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So you know.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I mean he have to be to be able to
endure and go through all that bullshit that he got
to listen to and being like going into the fifth
round and just like I mean, the reporter just saying,
fucked up the head ship.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I mean, you don't even really know the kids, so
you're just throwing out all these I mean so so
you know, but the family is a blessed family and
that's what we know, right. So when when when you
talk about the sanderstand, man, that's my guy, dionn Man.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I know.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And I was sitting there with a friend watching the
game the other day and she was like, you know
what one thing Dion's done with them, with this with
them boys, he's did a great.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
All his kids, all of his kids.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
All of them, the girls too. He's did a great
job of building them up. And they know who the
fuck they are, man. And that's what I like about it. Man.
You know what I mean, You can't you can't get
them off their path and you can say all the
fuck shit you want to say about even with the
young kid that's not playing that should be playing in
the n NFL too, the cornerback, the safety, whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
He is. Yeah, yeah, he should be playing in the.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
NFL too, because I see so many motherfuckers just because
he put his hands on somebody because somebody tried him.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
But I mean, this is football. What are we talking about.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
You get rid of him because of what he got
an attitude because he's a Sanders.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Now. Nah, you know, Dionne ain't gonna let nobody put
no hands on him, and he ain't either.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
So I'm just saying, man, it's a lot of fuckingy
shit going on with when it comes to the to
the to the Sanders family.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
You hear what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
And kudos to Shador and uh and and Shiloh. Keep
your head up, bro, because you're gonna get another shot.
You're gonna get a chance. Man, keep your head up too, man,
y'all just stay blessed.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Man. But they're a blessed family. Man. It's a bunch
of bullsh shit going on with them. Man. But I
like what Shador's doing.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I mean, like you said, ain't no other quarterback through
for more yards than he did. And I mean I mean, man,
I mean, I mean, this is what he do, man,
This is what he does. Man, I mean, this is
what he is. He's a quarterback. It's nothing else, I mean,
and this is what he's bred to do playing the
NFL to start as like, and congratulations on getting that
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QB one for the rest of the year too, absolutely, congratulations.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Good call back.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
To me, I don't know where all this comes from.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Obviously we can speculate because we're not in these rooms,
behind these doors. But I'm guessing it has to be
what they couldn't do to Dion because Dion was so incredible.
Dion was absolutely so incredible. He did it his way,
but it produced results. So now you know, a black
father having two of these young athletes having an opportunity to,
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you know, not be the same player, but obviously do
the same thing as their father done. And it's just
I don't think i've seen this. I mean, you see,
Bronni gets this type of energy unfortunately, but to put
the type of energy on kids because of a way
you feel about a father is just so weak to me.
And it's grown people doing it too, like grown ass
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men not liking kids because of something their father did
or you know.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
To me, it's just you guys are corny, you guys
are cowards.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yes, I want to touch on his first start with
the Raiders because I actually got to watch that game
with Dion, and I remember the first drive of the game,
they got down and on the goal line they gave
they called in the Wildcat. They took your door out
and called the wildcat. Second drive to get down the
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red zone, get down to the goal line, they called
the Wildcat. And obviously, you know, I'm up in there
in Dion's pacing. He's excited, he's moving around, but I'm
also seeing like the father in him as well. And
obviously you know, and he probably doesn't even want me
to share that, but all this negativity on his sons
has has hurt him, has really hurt him. And obviously,
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you know, we're praying for his health. You know, he's
going different health battles right now. But all this extra
bullshit because you know, Max, your father, you know the world,
being a father like you want to be able to
protect your babies as long, I don't care how grown
they are, you always gonna want to reprotect him. And
just the energy that had been pushed on his kids
has definitely.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Worn on Dion and it affects it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, against the the Raiders, two seven a touchdown, and
the pick got his first win. The following week, the
only time I'm not rooted against my Niners. He had
to take that all but one fifty with the touchdown.
And then last week a phenomenal game maybe four hundred
yards total offense, three touch three passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdowns.
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Davanski is at his name. Fuck, I don't give a
fuck what his name, the coach of the coach of
the Browns. I mean, it seems to a franchise that
has that has struggled in the last thirty years with
finding a guy. And we're not even saying that Shador, Like,
let's not jump, We're not saying Shador is the franchise guy.
He's gonna save this. I'm not saying none of that.
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But it sure seems like a team that's struggled to
find some kind of leadership at that quarterback position, some
kind of quality to play at that quarterback position, have
done everything to not allow this kid to succeed, from
being the fourth string to not playing them picking Gabriel
or over him. And then now that he's here and
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has a chance, I mean, this kid has had the
game of his NFL career and you're trying to tell
me to tie the game up, you want to put
a stupid ass reverse pass in the game instead of
just allowing the Yeah, allowing the hottest player on the
field to try to make a play. And keep in
mind he was going against the number one pick that
game and clearly outshined cam Ward that game. But to me, Max,
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when you see dumb ship like that, Stefanski has done
weekend week out with these calls in SoRs, been at
the helm or or since has I mean pretty much
all season. If you're sitting up in the in the
office and you're seeing your head coach act the way
he did and make we might break a record for
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the most cuss words in the segment right here, Max.
But let's go ahead and go for what would you
do if you were management or ownership with what Stefanski
has been doing? Oh my goodness, you can't put your
besides put your hands on the match.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
You can't do that, damn when it comes back there,
That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
First of all, but choke his hand out.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, as soon as I saw get five two piece.
But besides that, this motherfucker he didn't even want this
kid though. Man, they didn't really want this kid, man,
you know what I mean, they just fell in a
lap man because they had to take this motherfucker because
he really was a quarterback actually left out there, so
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they had to take this mouffle.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So when they took him, so he.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Really didn't want him, like they always talking about him
right now, you know, they sending him up a failure.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
That's what they're doing. You know, that's all this is
for next year, The set.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Up a failure.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Oh we didn't win with these many games? Where then?
But motherfucker, what did you do when he was in possession?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
How did you help?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
How it's all about And that's what they're not doing, man,
They sending him up a failure.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Man.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
But and like you said, and like we keep saying,
it's not even about his kids.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
It's about the Sanders man. And this is crazy.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I mean, one of the worst guys to go play
on two sides of the ball and was effective on
both sides.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Man. So I don't.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Understand what Dion did to the NFL that got damn shield.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
To make them want to hate his kids. Man.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I see, now you can hate that man. I mean,
but not his man. Come on, now we start like
and and you hit me and you hit you said
something to me like that hit me to my heart,
man like, And I got to come back to that
because I'm thinking about it now, because motherfucker's fucked with
my son. You know, when he was in school, when
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he was when he was at university and ship you
know what I mean, And and I mean man's And
now I'm telling you Max about the good goddamn present.
So I mean, but I'm telling you man, it's something
these motherfuckers will really really to mean your kids and
fuck with your kids mental man.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But before we get out of here, I want to
say two things. One to your door and the Sanders
family to keep taking the keep taking the high road. Absolutely,
you're killing You're killing them with your with your professionalism.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Your game is speaking, your game is talking.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
They can hate as well as much as they want
to hate, but the talent is continuing to shine through.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And that's the beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You know, control what you can control is out of
your control. What kind of dumb ass shit your coach called.
So continue to chest out, say the right things, play
the right way, and everything will work out and the
media that is trying to jump the bandwagon now that
we're talking all kinds of shit like Emmanuel Accho and
some of you other motherfuckers that are trying to do
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amazing breakdowns now about how good Shador is. And we
knew this was going to be this when a month
ago you were talking shit and screaming and loud and wrong.
All you motherfuckers. There's probably about five of us. Maybe
I'll go to the second hand. I'm gonna say maybe
I didn't see her. Maybe there was ten of us
that have been riding with this Sanders family from the jump,
and now this Shador is doing this thing. All you
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punk asses stay on their side. You picked because we're
not accepted. No new entries. I talked to Dionne. He said,
I can be in charge of the fan club. Fuck
all y'all. Next subject, niggas said staying in football, Patrick Mahomes.
The Chiefs have been so great. Anytime that they're not great,
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it's the end of the world. And is Patrick Mahomes done?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I mean, what is he?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yar?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
What year? What is this? Is this eight or nine?
You're eight or nine?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think the Chiefs are currently sitting at six and seven,
third in the AFC West, and according to the NFL
they have eleven chance of making the playoffs this season.
This stretch has been tough, but you know, Max and
Weir wanted, we wanted to address this and talk about
this a little bit because I think Mahomes is fine.
Obviously they're having a down year. They may not make
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the playoffs. But it reminded me a little bit of
the run that Steph Curry and the Warriors went on
when they gave us so much greatness and all of
a sudden, Katie gets hurt and leaves, Clay gets hurt,
and then this team is is.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Damn this team's terrible.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
This team is this, This team's that everyone's terrible, trade
everybody and then lo and behold they were able to
grab one more championship run and and and you know,
still a very solid team in the league.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Ninth year, but his first year, you only played one game.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Damage more. I can't telling damage goods this mother.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You think Mahomes is damaged, Goods are, but I'm.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Still Mahomes ain't moving the same. And Haines and Zachly
used to be running throwing that moth up in but
I mean Kelsey missed a couple of passes though, I mean,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
But also too, I think Kelsey's obviously getting a little older.
Kelsey's been banged up, you know, similar to Gronk. I mean,
they came in, took the world by storm with their
play and and and obviously Kelsey is gonna be one
of the greatest tight ends of all time. And then
obviously I think, you know, Mahomes has taken some hits
and some injuries that have slowed him down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
But what I like about him.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Is this his his his his style of play, and
his greatness isn't predicated upon his athleticism. It's his accuracy,
his touch, his ability to throw on the move. And
another thing is this team just hasn't had many weapons
for him. To be honest with you, He's made the
most out of the weapons he has. But let's take
a look at the Curry Mahomes Light Skin Superstar timeline,
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both round one but not looked at as potential franchise players.
You remember, Mahomes came in behind Alex Smith, Steph came
in behind Monte Ellis. Once they were able to kind
of get their feet wet. They both have been taking
the game to depths and levels we've never seen with
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obviously Steph being able to shoot, Mahomes being able to
throw that thing around the football field. There is not
a throw he cannot make. But as we currently sit,
Steph has four titles. Mahome has three titles. Again, very
off year for this team. But my question to you,
Max is the run of Mahomes over?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Now?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Keep in mind, how does he before you? He's only
thirty years old. We know Brady played well into his forties.
Is Mahomes run done over?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Dead?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's dead? He's dead.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
There's too many other bad motherfucker, young motherfucker quarterbacks out here.
Now you see what this shit going on. You see
that boy from Charlotte out here throwing that motherfucker around
with the Patriots. You huh used to a lot of
bad motherfucker's coming around. I'm just telling you now, it's
some bad ass young quarterbacks out here. And I love
my Homes to death. Yeah, I mean that's my brother.
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I love him. But man, I'm telling you man to
get to an age and that football shit, man, well, you.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Don't see like you used to see and your.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Ass can't move like you used to move, and them
little nagin as injuries be affecting your ass and shit
like that. Motherfucker, there was a lot of shit going
on on Sunday with my homes, they said, and you
can tell it too. I mean, god damn, he couldn't
really get away. You know that a capability used to have.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That shit was. That's shit's gone.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
That motherfucker like he's swimming in it like tread and
water and he treading that mother brother tread water.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I mean, hey man, I'm just telling that Kelsey he
got that goddamn white woman.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know he did. You know he did.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
God damn his his damn legs in between her legs.
You know he he got that woman. He did, he did?
And then no, I mean, I'm just saying, man, it's
just ship man. It's a lot of damaged goods on
them old l ass t on them legs.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So I mean, I mean, I mean, so they're over,
it's old.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I feel like that take is a take from a
cowboy fan. That's what that take was. And I'll take
Mahomes one hundred out of one hundred times over the quarterback.
You have sitting behind your offensive line, Prescott.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Uh, but I think we're.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
We're talking about the motherfucker v not.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
With barely over five hundred record.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
The reason we got.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But just think about this. Think about this.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You guys have what two more wins and then the
Chiefs and they're talking about the Chiefs. Runner is over
and they're excited about you guys. So what is that
saying about you?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
But the only thing is that, See, you got to
see how to set up in the conferences. See, we
better chance of getting in because Philly lost last night
and that helped us there them up.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
There's no quay. Y'all gonna get there, and you guys
are just gonna sit.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's why I got those cowboys shit all the day.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Take us out for your team, y'all.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Y'all, y'all just gonna have practice one week longer than
the worst team in the league.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You're gonna have one extra week of practice, one game,
and then they gonna be hanging out with us.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Max, okay, it with San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
It was supposed to be a down yere. We're overachieved
this year. This is a down year for us. But
what I will say is I feel like, you know,
God willing injury is staying injury for I feel like
Mahomes has another good ten years to play, and I
think the league is caught up. But there's still not
too many quarterbacks in the league as we stand currently
that I would take over Mahomes uh if he had
an O line, if he had had weapons.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You know you, I think you retooled it now.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Now to me, it's up to you know, is Andrew
How long does Andy Reid have left in his tank?
Because he's a great mastermind behind the scenes, but management
can management rebuild some pieces around him to be able
to utilize you know, his his next you know, the
last last nine so to speak. The front nine are
done front nine, he got three masters on the back nine.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Will he get will it?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Do you feel like Patrick Mahomes, if he plays another
nine to ten years, will get another championship?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Or is he done?
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I'm gonna get one, man. I say get one, because yeah,
I believe that. But they gotta get rid of Kelsey
ass cause him and Kelsey that man, Patrick Mahomes's wife
and Patrick Mahon all that shit. That's too much. They
got to get rid of Kelsey. Kelsey got the gold,
now we gotta get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I just I just think. I think Kelsey, you know
the I think the writings on the wall. I think,
what has he got? Twelve years in the game.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yes, now you know.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I'm saying that's a long run side Kelsey will be
a top five tight end all time. Yeah, it'll be
interesting to see what they do with this team. Obviously
a down year. But let's not overreact like Max is
doing saying that they're done. I think there's still some
time and he's got a lot of good football left
in that arm and in those legs. Moving on to
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hoop Max. The Lakers eight and two over their last ten,
fourth rated offensive rating during that stretch. Congratulations to Luca.
He missed two games to go home for the birth
of his daughter, traveled around the world and came back.
And what did he drop when he came back? Nate,
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this dude dropped thirty five, fifteen and eleven as a
first time dad. And I'll just tell you, I just
traveled back from around the world. I just had a
sixteen hour trip to make it back for a birthday,
and I could barely walk.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I was over there getting my head. I was tired.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I was sweating for no reason, and this man, Luca
came back and gave you a nasty thirty five point.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Was over there.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
You was over that motherfucker pot and then sucking all.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Nah. I wasn't though, Max, I wasn't I have some.
I asked the beverages. I asked, well, you can't. You
can't smoke and Dubai. I had a few cocktails. But
I say out there to say Luca came back as
a father. Congratulations, welcome to the fatherhood club. But first
game back thirty five, fifteen and eleven. This team has
probably been the surprise of the league thus far, second
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in the Western, second in the Western Conference, maybe a
top four record in the league. Lebron, I think a
lot is going to be made, and I've said this
several times, you know, as we've touched on the clay,
disrespect and superstars don't get a chance to age gracefully
in this era because there's too many clowns that.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Have absolutely a platform.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Lebron, this team is six and one with him in
the lineup, but the numbers aren't lebroni ish number. He's
at sixteen, eight and five in about thirty three minutes.
But with that said, this team is still again second
in the West. His point streak came to an end
at one two and ninety seven points, but in typical
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Lebron fashion, instead of extending.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
That streak, what did he do?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
He made the right play for a game winning shot
for Hachi Moor. And that's something that people have always
knocked Lebron on is the killer, But Lebron has always
been that Maggie Johnson, that Lebron type player that's going
to make the right play no matter what. Thoughts on
first of all, on Lebron, And I'm gonna give you
my thoughts a little bit before you go in Max
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at this age, what is he forty one? It's gonna
take him at least twenty games to really.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Five games, we know that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
But we know that all to get that oil back
running through a system and getting his joints right in.
You know, obviously he had a huge game in He
had a huge game in Philly the other night where
it looked like vintage Bron. He dropped twenty eight and
you know, damn near a triple double and helped his
team get a win. But but Max, speak to what
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we were just talking about, because obviously the old you get,
the longer it kind of takes to get acclimated to
the season. He missed a handful of time early with
the Sciatica. Now he's back. This team is better with
him in the lineup than they are without him in
the lineup. But what do you expect from Lebron this
season considering how amazing Austin Reeves are Austin Reeves, Austin
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Reeves who would be a first time All Star this year,
Luca who every single game he's on the floor, he
is the best player. Thoughts on the way Lebron has
kind of settled or is going to settle into this
third man or third option role, and and how does
this vote for the Lakers and Laker fans moving forward?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
What I love? I mean Lebron, Like, it's preseason for
Lebron right now. Shitty play.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I mean, come on, we know how many games it
takes you to get yourself back in the rhythm and
get yourself ready to play.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I mean, so it's preseason right now.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Like you said, it's gonna take my fifteen to twenty
for Lebron to really get himself. You see what he
did last night, You see getting his legs back on them,
and Philly went out there and hit some big shots
down the stretch. And man, I ain't that's that's something
that these motherfuckers ain't got to worry about.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Don't worry about that motherfucker. Remember that motherfucker, you see.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And he had some antics too, he was he did
all he had his antique. His antics were flowing last game.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
They just letting your motherfuckers know. I'm getting back fine
tuned up. Like motherfucker's like one of these lad He's
just canna fine too, that's all. Man, Don't worry about Lebron.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Man, Bron's gonna be okay, right because we know this,
you know, I mean that shit gonna rotate.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Shit.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Lebron might be the better player one night, and then
Luca might be the third best player, and ar might
be the second best player. Man, they got three and
you want to have that goddamn complex like when you
got motherfuckers can do that for.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
You on the floor. Man, So what the fuck are
we talking about? Hey, Lebron is fine.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
I can't wait to see that motherfucking around after the
All Star break and then you motherfucking to my old lord.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
The Lakers are looking good. Lakers.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I like, I think I think they're in a really
good position because now they have two guys that can
carry the load. And let's not forget Ayton has been
playing really well, realizing the opportunity in front of him,
He's playing really well. Rich Paul on his new podcast
recently said he doesn't feel like the way the Lakers
are constructed, they're really a contender this year.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Max.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
They do have pieces. Do you see the Lakers riding
this wave for the season or do you see them
behind the scenes trying to better this team before the
All Star break?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
They gonna have to get better after the All Star break,
they gotta get better. And I think that's what they
gonna do. I mean, they're just filling it out. I mean,
it's gonna come together. The Lake is gonna be one
of the teams that can be contended against. Okay, see, okay, see,
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but I mean, just I'm just saying so, ain't I mean,
and you got Denver too, so don't forget jokers. So
but I'm just saying now, but that's that the Lakers
gonna be a good They're gonna be a contender too
in the West.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I mean, I.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Think, I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I definitely think I don't know if they have enough
to beat okay See, but I definitely in that conversation
of Denver Hough the Lakers, there will be one more
team that probably jumps in that that that because I mean,
I think obviously okay See is the top tier. So
I think right below them, there's probably four teams that
might be able to win three games against them, two
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games against them, but I don't know, they're okay, and.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Then one more I gotta say one more thing too. Now,
let's not forget the motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
With the Rockets. I think that's what that is, right,
that blurry ass picture.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
It's a rocket.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Now I really like, I really like the Rockets. Now,
speaking of the Rockets, do they need a point guard
to really reach their maximum potential? Obviously the young boy
who's this.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Uh Shepherd reach Shepherd, I think he's a I think
he's a score.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I don't know, but I might he might be a
little too little to defend, you know on that.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
So, so to my point, do you feel like they
need before the trade deadline, to get a point guard
that could really run this team.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yes, well, well yeah, we need a point We need
a We need a bigger point guard, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
What I mean. We got a man man, I mean,
he's not a point you know.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
We ain't gonna have him bring that motherfucker up the
floor and motherfuckers crushing him, you know, nine and four
feet and turn his ass three full time. And he
he ain't he ain't used to doing that. So we
need a real point guarding that motherfucker, like.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
John Moran or mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, I like Josh that job company.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
So they gotta get definitely need they gotta get rid
of job over there. They got to get rid of
job and then we got piece. We might have a
piece they like. They might like read Shepherd and no.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
You could definitely throw some pieces. You know.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
We got Shepherd.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I really like, I I really I'm I'm gonna change
this because I put this in my head.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Put it out there, put it out there is what
mad Max wants.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
So yeah, job, mad Max won't job coming over a time. John,
you got slow dying baby, can't do it backtead, I
tell you can't be in third four fifth ward.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Now you got Now, wouldn't that would be great you
mad Max? Because jo Jah's mentor. That would be a
hell of a story right there.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I'm the guy speaking of aging gracefully. My brother CP
three being released by the Clippers at three in the morning.
News has been coming out one sided. I know CP
has been trying to get them to stop what's the word,
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just just disrespecting his name because there's been a lot
of bullshit coming out.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I've got a chance to talk to him a little bit. Max.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
To me, you know, this was he announced his last season.
He comes back to be to go out on as
not necessarily a farewell too, but just to close with
the team that he had a huge impact on. Chris
Paul's arguably the best Clipper player of all time.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
And this just didn't sit right with me the way
they dogged him.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
And I want to back up a little bit because
they did the same thing to Blake Griffin. They signed
Blake to a big contract, Blake wanted to finish his
career as a Clipper. Months into his five year extent,
he gets traded. Now you bring CP three back, who
is the best player in the franchise on the map
cut me off.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Was that the same owner though? Right?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
No, same group, same group, same group. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So now, but again I think this is less. This
is not a bomber decision. These are This is a
this is management making these moves. But again, you bring
CP three back for his final run. You know, talking
to CP three leading up to this season, his priority
was being close to his family. You know, the last
handful of years, he's moved around a little bit and
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he's missed a lot of quality time. Is his son,
little Chris, his best friends with the twins, they're all
going through their little high school run right now. So
I think he prioritized being close. Luckily at the time
that was the Clippers. But for them to move the
way they did, for them to cut him in the
middle of the night on a road trip. When you
first heard about this, Max, what was your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Out? Ass? Shit? Man? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (37:02):
You gotta look CP three in his face and tell him, Okay, man,
this is what we getting ready to do. You cannot
blindly cut this. I mean, just like the leader. I mean,
I mean, that's so disrespectful, man, that's CP three, You.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Know how much that's what I'm saying, man, the NBA
is getting different now.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Man.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
This motherfuckers don't show us commas to the players that
they're supposed to be showing homage to. They show the
homage to these other motherfuckers that's coming and trying to
be what this motherfucker was.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You see what I'm saying, man, and so, and that's
what I don't like about the NBA right now. Man.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
And I speak on that shit too, because I don't like, like,
come on, we're talking about CP three, You talk about Lebron,
we're talking about We're talking about.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Guys getting disrespected.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Man, I'm talking about I mean, this motherfucker's first ballot
Hall of Famers.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Man, what the fuck are we talking about?
Speaker 5 (37:54):
We shouldn't even be sitting up here talking about And
he went back to fucking the Clippers to god.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Damn to do his farewell tour. And this is what
the fuck y'all gonna.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Man, Come on, man, they gonna he's gonna find out
this ship at three.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
O'clock in the morning. Man, Man, Man, that was meet
CP three.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Man out of had them goons out there right outside
there ready for Obama. Mama, you ain't had nothing to
do with it. I don't think you disrespected Chris Paul. He
probably already been wanted to do that though, you see
what I'm saying. His ass probably already wanted to do
that to Chris Chris. So what I hate that that
motherfucker had the homage and and he thought he was
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able to want to disrespect you like that, man, because
Chris Paul should never be disrespected when it comes.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
To definitely not, especially when you're hearing it again, we're
not there. I've talked to a few people from media,
uh and and kind of just the organization, you know,
talk to Chris a little bit, and and Chris really
didn't have no ship to talk surprisingly, And what I
told him was, I feel like they think they could
do this because you're gonna take the higher when they do.
You know, You're not a max, You're not a mere
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not as someone that's gonna fly off the hook when
you hear some disrespectful bullshit, you know, and then you
hear this stuff about Jeff van Gundy, you know, when
CP made a you know, a suggestion that hey, maybe
Kawhi shouldn't be chasing Clay around at this time, and
and and then Jeff Van Gundy pulls him to the
back of the plane and tells him he can't make
those kind of calls here, Like, Jeff, wake up, bro,
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you have a bottom third defense and if a nine
time All defensive player has a suggestion about how to
get that defense any better, your old ashes listen.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
And I think to move.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
To me, it sounded like just a lot of insecurity
coaches said to me, And that's what it hits. And
you know, I know TLU and obviously I never played
for Van Gundy, but you see the staff, Like you know,
Chris is a strong personality. You know, he leaves by
example and obviously he's not the player he was, but
his mind is still sharp. Absolutely help in any capacity.
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But I also heard Max and I can't say no names,
but there's a there's a snitch behind the scenes.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Come on, we always know us, all them bitch asses
niggas and them just stay on the team. I mean,
it's always a nigga that want to play. Ain't really
he righted on them playing. It's one of them niggas,
them niggas right there, man, But it's always that man.
Like I mean I was talking about about the rings
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man them niggas.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Man niggas cut me out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
But so I'm just saying it always them bitch ass niggas.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, I just hate that again, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
They know who they are too, and I'm mad, Mats
call you bitch. You know who you are.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
But a Clipper if the shoe fit where, you know,
the Clippers are organized organization I hold dear to my heart.
You know, I had a great run there and we
really have fun with those Lob City teams. But you know,
when you're a when you're a player, don't even know
how young players think anymore. So maybe this is old
school thinking, but when you see how they treat their
two franchise players, probably the two jerseys that should go
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into a dom are Chris Paul and Blake Griffin.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
And the way you dog both these.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Men after all they've done for these franchise to me,
that's what hurt me. You know, again, we don't know
what Chris said, what the coach said with the assistant
coach said with Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
We don't know none of that ship.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
It's hearsay and we're hearing sides of it, but just
from an outside looking at and a person who's been there.
How do you treat your two best players that have
ever played in your franchise the way you treat them
and expect growth and expect to turn things around. And
you know, obviously Bomber has done a great job turning
around what owner, the old owner tried to run into
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the ground. But you know, it's about these days and
it's about respect, but it's about morals. It's about discipline
and principle.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
And Matt, that's what I want to talk about too,
because you you said Lawrence Frank was able to do that.
But see the owner got the be the goddamn that
this is my ship.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
I'm not gonna.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Let you do this to this kid by here because
I know how much this motherfucker means to the NBA.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
So why wouldn't he.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Step in and say, no, motherfucker, we're not gonna get
rid of this motherfucker at three o'clock in the in
the morning.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
You ain't know what I'm saying. We're not even gonna
get rid of this morning. But I mean, come on,
what are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Conversation?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Everything we've heard was there was no there wasn't great
communication between TLU and CP and obviously the team's having
a bad year, so emotions are running high. But I
think that organization, that head coach, the g they at
least owed that to someone who puts so much in
a real conversation.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Man, let me say something too.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
I mean T Lou now, goddamn now, nigga, we love
you now, Goddamn, I love you now, boy, red ass nigga.
Now you acting like now, stop nigga. I love your
motherfucking ass. Now I stopped going.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
I could talk about your ass, but I.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Don't really want to do that. I don't really like
to talk about us. I don't like to talk about
it like this. T Lou man, you you man. You
should have done better.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
I'm Vernon Max, well, mad Max, whatever the fuck you
want to call me, Maxy whatever, nigga. T Lou, I
put it on you because use comed denominated nigga. You
could have said, nah, I can't do that to him
this Chris Paul, that's not do that.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
So but I put it on T Lou.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
It's just it's a bad look for the franchise. You
can't do your two best guys like that period. If
it was hard to handle, you got it's a terrible year.
Got four you got four more months. But the way
you did see many the way the way you do
one thing, and the way you do one.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Thing is the way you do everything. Max.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
All right, Max, Hey, before we get out of here,
real or sententail, I'm gonna run through some of these tweets, Max,
and you're gonna help me decide are they real or
are they cap.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
And got them?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Got mad Man?
Speaker 1 (44:23):
You got me Mad Tell them why you, mad Son?
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Tell them why you mad Son. Let's get these if.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
They if y'all, if y'all better not do nothing to Max.
I'm sorry, Madden, then ship Pippers.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
He just asked me a motherfucking question.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
I just answered the motherfucking question how I felt. Don't
do nothing, my brother, he ain't did nothing this me, mad, Max,
and y'all know I ain't ship I don't. I ain't
doing nothing in the motherfucking based on fuck you.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I'm sweating, all right.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Before we get out of here, get Max, get you
one more shot in the town before we get that here.
We got our segment. Now, real, lest and tell, let's
run through some tweets. We're gonna see if they're real
or some bullshit, Kobe, what you got for us?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Bro?
Speaker 7 (45:08):
All right, let's get into it. First tweet, Ben Simmons
says he is willing to play for the Sixers for free.
Is that real or c intel?
Speaker 5 (45:18):
I think that's real because I best have made so
much money for not playing, so he might be real.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Not playing. That might be real.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
He feels like he owns a team from playing for free,
So I think that's just realtail.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
What is it? Oh, it's facts. You're right, man, I
know it, Boye, that he'll get out there for free.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
I don't know that that niggas got a bunch of
money living calling.
Speaker 7 (45:51):
Dylan Brooks was heard yelling at Lebron the next five
years are mine.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Real or sentilil ship?
Speaker 8 (45:59):
Now?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
That is definitely intail, because I want to say Pat
Bev said that ship to Steph. If I'm not mistaken,
I don't think that worked out very well for Pat Bev.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
So that's intael. Okay, that's what I said. That's that
is okay because.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I'm not mistaking Pat Bev said that to Steph, and
I don't think that worked out very well for him.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Next question is it's a good one?
Speaker 7 (46:21):
Hendrick Perkins says Shadur Sanders is the most powerful black
man since President Obama.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Absolutely, yes, sir, Yes, sir, I would definitely yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Ship like that, so I would say, this is a
real tweet.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
I saw that ship earlier today. I know that.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
I know that's black. I saw that earlier today on
my tweet.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
So, speaking to my brother Kendrick Perkins, we're gonna be
sitting down with Perk Thursday.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah. Nah, yeah, Hey.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Y'all gonna be y'all gonna be at y'all gonna be
at a battle for who can say the most motherfuckers,
because Perks at the tunnel before we found you.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Max.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
The Clippers, Oh go ahead.
Speaker 7 (47:01):
The Clippers are expected to sign Lawrence Frank to a
contract extension.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
The Clippers are expected to sign Lawrence Frank. Don't look, don't.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
That's entail, Max, that's tail ship.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
That's just not true. That's tail ship. Motherfucker will not
get the way he's.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Chris Paul this roster together. I'm even looking past the
CP that that the roster that said, you're.
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Saying they will pull my ship back up. When I
said it damage good, I said it before we started
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Y'all ain't dead ship And so many years.
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young boy say anything.
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I like that because he is a wild one. He
like old Max. He he'll say anything.
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On that, but he'll ball. I like that.
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He hoping out there, hooping out there. Yeah, I think this.
We both think this is this is real. Yeah, Like,
this is indeed real. This is a fact, like the facts. Yeah, alright, Max,
appreciate your time. Brother. Always good to see you.
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Sparks and Fire presented you by Road Sparks, Fast Acting,
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that have been linked to Kaminga for a while. What
do you think of kaminga plus a piece for Michael
(49:15):
Porter Junior? Michael Porter Junior is having a career. What's
the averagance like twenty about to say twenty eight? Michael
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and understood the game and in one one of marine
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wings in in Brooklyn. A kaminga for Michael Porter Junior
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is that put the Warriors in championship contention? I like
Michael Porter Junior, but I don't I don't think so.
I think that gives him a lot of scoring punch,
but it doesn't add anything on the defensive end. So
I'm gonna have to say, this is sparks, this is
not fire. I really like what Porter's doing over there.
If I was him, I want to stay over there.
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You already got your ring, bro, keep hooping, get you
a big ass contract. Don't go to none of these
teams that are gonna try to make you conform your game.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
You had to do that already. Try to average thirty
the rest of your career and get as much money
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And he got his white boy with him. Yeah.
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Oh he can pass and cut you sign his ass up.
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I prefer a guy to be one of the greatest
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a two way deal, but it's really been playing good basketball.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Man. I love stories like this.
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And continue success and hopefully they take you off that
two way deal and give you a full time Warriors Jersey.
Pick six segment is presented by DraftKings Wednesday night games.
First look Suns versus Thunder SGA is going to have
more points then the DraftKings Pick six has him slated at.
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And that's the same a lot because them boys in
Phoenix are playing rough and tough, and I gotta give
Dylan Brooks some love. That man's been playing both sides
of the ball really well. He's a goon. They could
score the ball and he's gonna be all over SGA.
So we're gonna see, but that's gonna be a good matchup.
But I'm always gonna go with SGA. And next look
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gonna have more points than the DraftKings pick six slate
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We'll see y'all next week.
Welcome back to Unplugged. This episode is presented to you
by DraftKings. The crown is yours today. I'm accompanied by
none other than my brother Vernon Maxwell, and we will
get to him in a second. I want to start
with Shador Sanders had his third start on Sunday and
his best game of his rookie season. But a lot
has been said disrespectfully about Shador over the last year
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or so.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Let's take a look back on this timeline.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Sharduor was a four star quarterback out of high school
in twenty twenty one, flipped his commit commitment from FAU
to go play with his dad at Jackson State one
Offensive Player of the Year and HBCU Player of the
Year back to back SWAG championships at Jackson State University,
and then him and Pops decided to take their talents
to Colorado in twenty twenty three. When they went there,
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the team was one in eleven, one in eleven the
season before they got so let's just keep that in mind.
Shoudoor through twenty seven touchdowns and three picks in his
first season at Colorado, but they still finished with the
four and eight record. Was able to you know, really
jump into the portal the following year and get some
recruits and really kind of start having players that Dion
was looking forward to having over that time. The media
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after that first season being four and eight, considering they
were one and eleven, but they still wanted to talk
a lot of shit about four and eight. They were frauds.
A lot of labels and disrespect was being thrown around
after that first season. His final season, his senior year,
he threw for over four thousand yards, led the Big Twelve,
thirty seven touchdowns, led the Big Twelve, and led Colorado
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to a nine to four overall record, first winning season
in Colorado since twenty sixteen. He won twenty twenty four
Big Twelve Offensive Player of the Year, became the NCAA
all time leader in completed percentage, and was projected I mean,
after the season we were here in top five, top ten,
but Deathy was projected as a first round pick. And
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this is when shit starts getting spoky. The draft in
April twenty twenty five, he falls all the way down
to the fifth round. Suspicions start to rise over his
draft status and his fall all kind of behind the scenes.
No one really knows what the deal is, but somehow
this guy slipped to being what it was.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
He the sixth quarterback taken.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
If I'm not mistaken, cam Ward went one, Jackson Dark
went twenty fifth, Tyler Shock went fortieth, Jalen Melrow went
ninety second, and his running mate in Cleveland, Dylan Gabriel
went ninety four. When you think of Shador with the numbers,
the eye test again, everyone had him a first round
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pick for sure. A lot of people had him higher
than that. Initially after the draft, the critics were quick
to talk shit. A former Jets scout Daniel Kelly said
one hundred percent bus rate, an immature, passive, aggressive, hothead
NFL practice squad talent with a Hall of Fame name.
That was Daniel Kelly. They said former next to his name, right,
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That's probably because he had dumb ass takes like that.
Quotes from retired I used to like Merril Hodge too.
Sanders will be an epic failure. He will set the
franchise back at least two or three years. Set what
franchise back? This by the fucking franchise has been set
back fifty years, But a fifth round pick is gonna
send him back two or three years. That made a
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lot of sense, Merril, and then this is the anonymous people.
The anonymous people are bitches, all anonymous. Anyone that does
anonymous across the board and anything, you're a bitch. If
you're gonna talk shit, put your name on it. Sanders
was brash and arrogant in his pre draft interview, so
that Baker mayfielder Johnny Manzel bravado that they got away
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with their whole careers, their raw roshit is okay because
it's them.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But let a.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Confident young black man come in with the same confidence,
someone who was raised for this, was trained for this,
and it's arrogant.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So we already know what the deal is.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
In the preseason, Shudor confronted a reporter Tony GROSSI is
that how he say his name?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Gross?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
See, this dude is a fucking hater. And there's even
people I want to say in Cleveland Radio. I want
to say Cleveland ESPN that used to get on this
guy when this he first started hating on sure, but
who has been about browns beat reporter for over forty years.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Let's take a look at what he said in the preseason.
I'll be hoping you be I'd be hoping you got
some classics save up.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
You say negga stuff out, and I'm like, I ain't
do nothing to you.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I ain't see none.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Cassive. I come on, I'll be hoping.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You be I'd be hoping you got some classics save up.
You say neggar stuff out, and I'm like, I ain't
do nothing to you. I ain't see none passive.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So even with that, although we did nothing but talk shit,
that's still a respectful, almost playful energy towards him when
he if he would have caught a different kind of person,
it might have been a little more extra. And then
after his first start with the Raiders, reporters tried to
bait him. Let's take a look at what they asked
right here, those fourth.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And one, those two fortund ones.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It didn't work.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And did you like, Kevin Heaven the aggressiveness there.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Even backed up in your care purkey.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I mean, first, that's a rude question to ask, if
I'm if I think you know it was a great call.
But my coach, you know, like you like the call,
like do you like being out there playing? So so
whenever that comes, when it comes with you know, like
you know We're not gonna be here and every point
figure out, no coach or doing anything like that. You know,
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that's extremely disrespectful and that's not even in my place.
So I'm thankful for being out there, honestly, and I'm
thankful that he trusted us as an offense to be
able to go out there and be able to execute.
Did we execute, No, we didn't, But you know, I'm
just thankful that we have that trust.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
After the Titan game, Tony's back asking him more dumb
ass questions, trying to get him to say something.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
If I'm out there any play, you know, I would
wish I would always have a ball in my hand,
but that's not what football is. Sometimes you got to
run the ball, sometimes you got to kick a field goal,
you know everything.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I like, that's the game. That's the game. That's the
most important thing is the ball.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
So in any situation, of course, you will want to
But I know we practiced something, and we executed it
in practice, and we just didn't seem to this day.
So I would never I would never go against you know,
kind of like what the call was or anything.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Did it work in practice?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
No, we just called it in the game and it
didn't work in practice. I don't think you called plays
in a game that didn't work in practice.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know what what I love about Shador is win
or loss, it's you know, there's a smile on his face,
there's an appreciation of the opportunity, there's a thankfulness. And
he's never thrown his teammates under the bus. He's never
thrown his coach under the bus, even though his coach
he's to be thrown off the fucking bus. But he
continues just to do things the right way. And I
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think that's what really bothers people. When you can lose
and answer with the smile, and answer with grace, and
answer with arrogance. Still, for some reason that those people
the wrong way. There's been forty two players to start
the quarterback position. Only three in those seasons in the
twenty five year history did the same quarterbacks start the
next season. That's Tim Couch and Baker Mayfield in nineteen
(07:44):
and twenty. Shador recently revealed was the most searched player
because people love, lover hat him. They're gonna look at him.
Now we're here with Max and now we're here with Shador.
I jumped around a little bit because it just bothers
me with just the just the just the hate. Obviously,
last game said the Browns rookie record for passing yards
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in the game, most passing yards by a rookie this
season and his three starts, he has seven hundred and
twenty two yards, five touchdowns, two picks, and a fifty
eight percent completions percentage. Max, when we when you hear
me go through this line and you know, kind of
poke fun at the people who are being disrespectful. And
now that he's and again the record doesn't show it,
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he's only one in two unforsely, but there's been some
really weird core coaching decisions that will obviously get into
But when you kind of look back over this situation, Max,
how do you feel that he shuldor himself has handled
everything from the jump?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Always, you know, the Sanders family, they're always going to
be professionals. They're going to be above everything, all that
other shit, all that turnmoil and all that other shit,
and these conspiracy shit.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
That they put on this kid.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
And I mean, I mean, and we got to understand
right that we understand that the standards the family, they're
strong minded people.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So you know.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I mean he have to be to be able to
endure and go through all that bullshit that he got
to listen to and being like going into the fifth
round and just like I mean, the reporter just saying,
fucked up the head ship.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I mean, you don't even really know the kids, so
you're just throwing out all these I mean so so
you know, but the family is a blessed family and
that's what we know, right. So when when when you
talk about the sanderstand, man, that's my guy, dionn Man.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I know.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And I was sitting there with a friend watching the
game the other day and she was like, you know
what one thing Dion's done with them, with this with
them boys, he's did a great.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
All his kids, all of his kids.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
All of them, the girls too. He's did a great
job of building them up. And they know who the
fuck they are, man. And that's what I like about it. Man.
You know what I mean, You can't you can't get
them off their path and you can say all the
fuck shit you want to say about even with the
young kid that's not playing that should be playing in
the n NFL too, the cornerback, the safety, whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
He is. Yeah, yeah, he should be playing in the.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
NFL too, because I see so many motherfuckers just because
he put his hands on somebody because somebody tried him.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
But I mean, this is football. What are we talking about.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
You get rid of him because of what he got
an attitude because he's a Sanders.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Now. Nah, you know, Dionne ain't gonna let nobody put
no hands on him, and he ain't either.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
So I'm just saying, man, it's a lot of fuckingy
shit going on with when it comes to the to
the to the Sanders family.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
You hear what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
And kudos to Shador and uh and and Shiloh. Keep
your head up, bro, because you're gonna get another shot.
You're gonna get a chance. Man, keep your head up too, man,
y'all just stay blessed.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Man. But they're a blessed family. Man. It's a bunch
of bullsh shit going on with them. Man. But I
like what Shador's doing.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I mean, like you said, ain't no other quarterback through
for more yards than he did. And I mean I mean, man,
I mean, I mean, this is what he do, man,
This is what he does. Man, I mean, this is
what he is. He's a quarterback. It's nothing else, I mean,
and this is what he's bred to do playing the
NFL to start as like, and congratulations on getting that
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QB one for the rest of the year too, absolutely, congratulations.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Good call back.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
To me, I don't know where all this comes from.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Obviously we can speculate because we're not in these rooms,
behind these doors. But I'm guessing it has to be
what they couldn't do to Dion because Dion was so incredible.
Dion was absolutely so incredible. He did it his way,
but it produced results. So now you know, a black
father having two of these young athletes having an opportunity to,
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you know, not be the same player, but obviously do
the same thing as their father done. And it's just
I don't think i've seen this. I mean, you see,
Bronni gets this type of energy unfortunately, but to put
the type of energy on kids because of a way
you feel about a father is just so weak to me.
And it's grown people doing it too, like grown ass
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men not liking kids because of something their father did
or you know.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
To me, it's just you guys are corny, you guys
are cowards.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yes, I want to touch on his first start with
the Raiders because I actually got to watch that game
with Dion, and I remember the first drive of the game,
they got down and on the goal line they gave
they called in the Wildcat. They took your door out
and called the wildcat. Second drive to get down the
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red zone, get down to the goal line, they called
the Wildcat. And obviously, you know, I'm up in there
in Dion's pacing. He's excited, he's moving around, but I'm
also seeing like the father in him as well. And
obviously you know, and he probably doesn't even want me
to share that, but all this negativity on his sons
has has hurt him, has really hurt him. And obviously,
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you know, we're praying for his health. You know, he's
going different health battles right now. But all this extra
bullshit because you know, Max, your father, you know the world,
being a father like you want to be able to
protect your babies as long, I don't care how grown
they are, you always gonna want to reprotect him. And
just the energy that had been pushed on his kids
has definitely.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Worn on Dion and it affects it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, against the the Raiders, two seven a touchdown, and
the pick got his first win. The following week, the
only time I'm not rooted against my Niners. He had
to take that all but one fifty with the touchdown.
And then last week a phenomenal game maybe four hundred
yards total offense, three touch three passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdowns.
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Davanski is at his name. Fuck, I don't give a
fuck what his name, the coach of the coach of
the Browns. I mean, it seems to a franchise that
has that has struggled in the last thirty years with
finding a guy. And we're not even saying that Shador, Like,
let's not jump, We're not saying Shador is the franchise guy.
He's gonna save this. I'm not saying none of that.
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But it sure seems like a team that's struggled to
find some kind of leadership at that quarterback position, some
kind of quality to play at that quarterback position, have
done everything to not allow this kid to succeed, from
being the fourth string to not playing them picking Gabriel
or over him. And then now that he's here and
(14:36):
has a chance, I mean, this kid has had the
game of his NFL career and you're trying to tell
me to tie the game up, you want to put
a stupid ass reverse pass in the game instead of
just allowing the Yeah, allowing the hottest player on the
field to try to make a play. And keep in
mind he was going against the number one pick that
game and clearly outshined cam Ward that game. But to me, Max,
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when you see dumb ship like that, Stefanski has done
weekend week out with these calls in SoRs, been at
the helm or or since has I mean pretty much
all season. If you're sitting up in the in the
office and you're seeing your head coach act the way
he did and make we might break a record for
(15:23):
the most cuss words in the segment right here, Max.
But let's go ahead and go for what would you
do if you were management or ownership with what Stefanski
has been doing? Oh my goodness, you can't put your
besides put your hands on the match.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
You can't do that, damn when it comes back there,
That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
First of all, but choke his hand out.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, as soon as I saw get five two piece.
But besides that, this motherfucker he didn't even want this
kid though. Man, they didn't really want this kid, man,
you know what I mean, they just fell in a
lap man because they had to take this motherfucker because
he really was a quarterback actually left out there, so
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they had to take this mouffle.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So when they took him, so he.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Really didn't want him, like they always talking about him
right now, you know, they sending him up a failure.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
That's what they're doing. You know, that's all this is
for next year, The set.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Up a failure.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Oh we didn't win with these many games? Where then?
But motherfucker, what did you do when he was in possession?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
How did you help?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
How it's all about And that's what they're not doing, man,
They sending him up a failure.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Man.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
But and like you said, and like we keep saying,
it's not even about his kids.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
It's about the Sanders man. And this is crazy.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I mean, one of the worst guys to go play
on two sides of the ball and was effective on
both sides.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Man. So I don't.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Understand what Dion did to the NFL that got damn shield.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
To make them want to hate his kids. Man.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I see, now you can hate that man. I mean,
but not his man. Come on, now we start like
and and you hit me and you hit you said
something to me like that hit me to my heart,
man like, And I got to come back to that
because I'm thinking about it now, because motherfucker's fucked with
my son. You know, when he was in school, when
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he was when he was at university and ship you
know what I mean, And and I mean man's And
now I'm telling you Max about the good goddamn present.
So I mean, but I'm telling you man, it's something
these motherfuckers will really really to mean your kids and
fuck with your kids mental man.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But before we get out of here, I want to
say two things. One to your door and the Sanders
family to keep taking the keep taking the high road. Absolutely,
you're killing You're killing them with your with your professionalism.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Your game is speaking, your game is talking.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
They can hate as well as much as they want
to hate, but the talent is continuing to shine through.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And that's the beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You know, control what you can control is out of
your control. What kind of dumb ass shit your coach called.
So continue to chest out, say the right things, play
the right way, and everything will work out and the
media that is trying to jump the bandwagon now that
we're talking all kinds of shit like Emmanuel Accho and
some of you other motherfuckers that are trying to do
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amazing breakdowns now about how good Shador is. And we
knew this was going to be this when a month
ago you were talking shit and screaming and loud and wrong.
All you motherfuckers. There's probably about five of us. Maybe
I'll go to the second hand. I'm gonna say maybe
I didn't see her. Maybe there was ten of us
that have been riding with this Sanders family from the jump,
and now this Shador is doing this thing. All you
(18:40):
punk asses stay on their side. You picked because we're
not accepted. No new entries. I talked to Dionne. He said,
I can be in charge of the fan club. Fuck
all y'all. Next subject, niggas said staying in football, Patrick Mahomes.
The Chiefs have been so great. Anytime that they're not great,
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it's the end of the world. And is Patrick Mahomes done?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I mean, what is he?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yar?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
What year? What is this? Is this eight or nine?
You're eight or nine?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think the Chiefs are currently sitting at six and seven,
third in the AFC West, and according to the NFL
they have eleven chance of making the playoffs this season.
This stretch has been tough, but you know, Max and
Weir wanted, we wanted to address this and talk about
this a little bit because I think Mahomes is fine.
Obviously they're having a down year. They may not make
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the playoffs. But it reminded me a little bit of
the run that Steph Curry and the Warriors went on
when they gave us so much greatness and all of
a sudden, Katie gets hurt and leaves, Clay gets hurt,
and then this team is is.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Damn this team's terrible.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
This team is this, This team's that everyone's terrible, trade
everybody and then lo and behold they were able to
grab one more championship run and and and you know,
still a very solid team in the league.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Ninth year, but his first year, you only played one game.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Damage more. I can't telling damage goods this mother.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You think Mahomes is damaged, Goods are, but I'm.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Still Mahomes ain't moving the same. And Haines and Zachly
used to be running throwing that moth up in but
I mean Kelsey missed a couple of passes though, I mean,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
But also too, I think Kelsey's obviously getting a little older.
Kelsey's been banged up, you know, similar to Gronk. I mean,
they came in, took the world by storm with their
play and and and obviously Kelsey is gonna be one
of the greatest tight ends of all time. And then
obviously I think, you know, Mahomes has taken some hits
and some injuries that have slowed him down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
But what I like about him.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Is this his his his his style of play, and
his greatness isn't predicated upon his athleticism. It's his accuracy,
his touch, his ability to throw on the move. And
another thing is this team just hasn't had many weapons
for him. To be honest with you, He's made the
most out of the weapons he has. But let's take
a look at the Curry Mahomes Light Skin Superstar timeline,
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both round one but not looked at as potential franchise players.
You remember, Mahomes came in behind Alex Smith, Steph came
in behind Monte Ellis. Once they were able to kind
of get their feet wet. They both have been taking
the game to depths and levels we've never seen with
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obviously Steph being able to shoot, Mahomes being able to
throw that thing around the football field. There is not
a throw he cannot make. But as we currently sit,
Steph has four titles. Mahome has three titles. Again, very
off year for this team. But my question to you,
Max is the run of Mahomes over?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Now?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Keep in mind, how does he before you? He's only
thirty years old. We know Brady played well into his forties.
Is Mahomes run done over?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Dead?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's dead? He's dead.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
There's too many other bad motherfucker, young motherfucker quarterbacks out here.
Now you see what this shit going on. You see
that boy from Charlotte out here throwing that motherfucker around
with the Patriots. You huh used to a lot of
bad motherfucker's coming around. I'm just telling you now, it's
some bad ass young quarterbacks out here. And I love
my Homes to death. Yeah, I mean that's my brother.
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I love him. But man, I'm telling you man to
get to an age and that football shit, man, well, you.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Don't see like you used to see and your.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Ass can't move like you used to move, and them
little nagin as injuries be affecting your ass and shit
like that. Motherfucker, there was a lot of shit going
on on Sunday with my homes, they said, and you
can tell it too. I mean, god damn, he couldn't
really get away. You know that a capability used to have.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That shit was. That's shit's gone.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
That motherfucker like he's swimming in it like tread and
water and he treading that mother brother tread water.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I mean, hey man, I'm just telling that Kelsey he
got that goddamn white woman.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know he did. You know he did.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
God damn his his damn legs in between her legs.
You know he he got that woman. He did, he did?
And then no, I mean, I'm just saying, man, it's
just ship man. It's a lot of damaged goods on
them old l ass t on them legs.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So I mean, I mean, I mean, so they're over,
it's old.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I feel like that take is a take from a
cowboy fan. That's what that take was. And I'll take
Mahomes one hundred out of one hundred times over the quarterback.
You have sitting behind your offensive line, Prescott.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Uh, but I think we're.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
We're talking about the motherfucker v not.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
With barely over five hundred record.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
The reason we got.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But just think about this. Think about this.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You guys have what two more wins and then the
Chiefs and they're talking about the Chiefs. Runner is over
and they're excited about you guys. So what is that
saying about you?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
But the only thing is that, See, you got to
see how to set up in the conferences. See, we
better chance of getting in because Philly lost last night
and that helped us there them up.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
There's no quay. Y'all gonna get there, and you guys
are just gonna sit.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's why I got those cowboys shit all the day.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Take us out for your team, y'all.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Y'all, y'all just gonna have practice one week longer than
the worst team in the league.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You're gonna have one extra week of practice, one game,
and then they gonna be hanging out with us.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Max, okay, it with San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
It was supposed to be a down yere. We're overachieved
this year. This is a down year for us. But
what I will say is I feel like, you know,
God willing injury is staying injury for I feel like
Mahomes has another good ten years to play, and I
think the league is caught up. But there's still not
too many quarterbacks in the league as we stand currently
that I would take over Mahomes uh if he had
an O line, if he had had weapons.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You know you, I think you retooled it now.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Now to me, it's up to you know, is Andrew
How long does Andy Reid have left in his tank?
Because he's a great mastermind behind the scenes, but management
can management rebuild some pieces around him to be able
to utilize you know, his his next you know, the
last last nine so to speak. The front nine are
done front nine, he got three masters on the back nine.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Will he get will it?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Do you feel like Patrick Mahomes, if he plays another
nine to ten years, will get another championship?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Or is he done?
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I'm gonna get one, man. I say get one, because yeah,
I believe that. But they gotta get rid of Kelsey
ass cause him and Kelsey that man, Patrick Mahomes's wife
and Patrick Mahon all that shit. That's too much. They
got to get rid of Kelsey. Kelsey got the gold,
now we gotta get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I just I just think. I think Kelsey, you know
the I think the writings on the wall. I think,
what has he got? Twelve years in the game.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yes, now you know.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I'm saying that's a long run side Kelsey will be
a top five tight end all time. Yeah, it'll be
interesting to see what they do with this team. Obviously
a down year. But let's not overreact like Max is
doing saying that they're done. I think there's still some
time and he's got a lot of good football left
in that arm and in those legs. Moving on to
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hoop Max. The Lakers eight and two over their last ten,
fourth rated offensive rating during that stretch. Congratulations to Luca.
He missed two games to go home for the birth
of his daughter, traveled around the world and came back.
And what did he drop when he came back? Nate,
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this dude dropped thirty five, fifteen and eleven as a
first time dad. And I'll just tell you, I just
traveled back from around the world. I just had a
sixteen hour trip to make it back for a birthday,
and I could barely walk.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I was over there getting my head. I was tired.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I was sweating for no reason, and this man, Luca
came back and gave you a nasty thirty five point.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Was over there.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
You was over that motherfucker pot and then sucking all.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Nah. I wasn't though, Max, I wasn't I have some.
I asked the beverages. I asked, well, you can't. You
can't smoke and Dubai. I had a few cocktails. But
I say out there to say Luca came back as
a father. Congratulations, welcome to the fatherhood club. But first
game back thirty five, fifteen and eleven. This team has
probably been the surprise of the league thus far, second
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in the Western, second in the Western Conference, maybe a
top four record in the league. Lebron, I think a
lot is going to be made, and I've said this
several times, you know, as we've touched on the clay,
disrespect and superstars don't get a chance to age gracefully
in this era because there's too many clowns that.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Have absolutely a platform.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Lebron, this team is six and one with him in
the lineup, but the numbers aren't lebroni ish number. He's
at sixteen, eight and five in about thirty three minutes.
But with that said, this team is still again second
in the West. His point streak came to an end
at one two and ninety seven points, but in typical
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Lebron fashion, instead of extending.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
That streak, what did he do?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
He made the right play for a game winning shot
for Hachi Moor. And that's something that people have always
knocked Lebron on is the killer, But Lebron has always
been that Maggie Johnson, that Lebron type player that's going
to make the right play no matter what. Thoughts on
first of all, on Lebron, And I'm gonna give you
my thoughts a little bit before you go in Max
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at this age, what is he forty one? It's gonna
take him at least twenty games to really.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Five games, we know that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
But we know that all to get that oil back
running through a system and getting his joints right in.
You know, obviously he had a huge game in He
had a huge game in Philly the other night where
it looked like vintage Bron. He dropped twenty eight and
you know, damn near a triple double and helped his
team get a win. But but Max, speak to what
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we were just talking about, because obviously the old you get,
the longer it kind of takes to get acclimated to
the season. He missed a handful of time early with
the Sciatica. Now he's back. This team is better with
him in the lineup than they are without him in
the lineup. But what do you expect from Lebron this
season considering how amazing Austin Reeves are Austin Reeves, Austin
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Reeves who would be a first time All Star this year,
Luca who every single game he's on the floor, he
is the best player. Thoughts on the way Lebron has
kind of settled or is going to settle into this
third man or third option role, and and how does
this vote for the Lakers and Laker fans moving forward?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
What I love? I mean Lebron, Like, it's preseason for
Lebron right now. Shitty play.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I mean, come on, we know how many games it
takes you to get yourself back in the rhythm and
get yourself ready to play.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I mean, so it's preseason right now.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Like you said, it's gonna take my fifteen to twenty
for Lebron to really get himself. You see what he
did last night, You see getting his legs back on them,
and Philly went out there and hit some big shots
down the stretch. And man, I ain't that's that's something
that these motherfuckers ain't got to worry about.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Don't worry about that motherfucker. Remember that motherfucker, you see.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And he had some antics too, he was he did
all he had his antique. His antics were flowing last game.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
They just letting your motherfuckers know. I'm getting back fine
tuned up. Like motherfucker's like one of these lad He's
just canna fine too, that's all. Man, Don't worry about Lebron.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Man, Bron's gonna be okay, right because we know this,
you know, I mean that shit gonna rotate.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Shit.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Lebron might be the better player one night, and then
Luca might be the third best player, and ar might
be the second best player. Man, they got three and
you want to have that goddamn complex like when you
got motherfuckers can do that for.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
You on the floor. Man, So what the fuck are
we talking about? Hey, Lebron is fine.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
I can't wait to see that motherfucking around after the
All Star break and then you motherfucking to my old lord.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
The Lakers are looking good. Lakers.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I like, I think I think they're in a really
good position because now they have two guys that can
carry the load. And let's not forget Ayton has been
playing really well, realizing the opportunity in front of him,
He's playing really well. Rich Paul on his new podcast
recently said he doesn't feel like the way the Lakers
are constructed, they're really a contender this year.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Max.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
They do have pieces. Do you see the Lakers riding
this wave for the season or do you see them
behind the scenes trying to better this team before the
All Star break?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
They gonna have to get better after the All Star break,
they gotta get better. And I think that's what they
gonna do. I mean, they're just filling it out. I mean,
it's gonna come together. The Lake is gonna be one
of the teams that can be contended against. Okay, see, okay, see,
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but I mean, just I'm just saying so, ain't I mean,
and you got Denver too, so don't forget jokers. So
but I'm just saying now, but that's that the Lakers
gonna be a good They're gonna be a contender too
in the West.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I mean, I.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Think, I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I definitely think I don't know if they have enough
to beat okay See, but I definitely in that conversation
of Denver Hough the Lakers, there will be one more
team that probably jumps in that that that because I mean,
I think obviously okay See is the top tier. So
I think right below them, there's probably four teams that
might be able to win three games against them, two
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games against them, but I don't know, they're okay, and.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Then one more I gotta say one more thing too. Now,
let's not forget the motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
With the Rockets. I think that's what that is, right,
that blurry ass picture.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
It's a rocket.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Now I really like, I really like the Rockets. Now,
speaking of the Rockets, do they need a point guard
to really reach their maximum potential? Obviously the young boy
who's this.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Uh Shepherd reach Shepherd, I think he's a I think
he's a score.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I don't know, but I might he might be a
little too little to defend, you know on that.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
So, so to my point, do you feel like they
need before the trade deadline, to get a point guard
that could really run this team.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yes, well, well yeah, we need a point We need
a We need a bigger point guard, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
What I mean. We got a man man, I mean,
he's not a point you know.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
We ain't gonna have him bring that motherfucker up the
floor and motherfuckers crushing him, you know, nine and four
feet and turn his ass three full time. And he
he ain't he ain't used to doing that. So we
need a real point guarding that motherfucker, like.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
John Moran or mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, I like Josh that job company.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
So they gotta get definitely need they gotta get rid
of job over there. They got to get rid of
job and then we got piece. We might have a
piece they like. They might like read Shepherd and no.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
You could definitely throw some pieces. You know.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
We got Shepherd.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I really like, I I really I'm I'm gonna change
this because I put this in my head.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Put it out there, put it out there is what
mad Max wants.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
So yeah, job, mad Max won't job coming over a time. John,
you got slow dying baby, can't do it backtead, I
tell you can't be in third four fifth ward.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Now you got Now, wouldn't that would be great you
mad Max? Because jo Jah's mentor. That would be a
hell of a story right there.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I'm the guy speaking of aging gracefully. My brother CP
three being released by the Clippers at three in the morning.
News has been coming out one sided. I know CP
has been trying to get them to stop what's the word,
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just just disrespecting his name because there's been a lot
of bullshit coming out.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I've got a chance to talk to him a little bit. Max.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
To me, you know, this was he announced his last season.
He comes back to be to go out on as
not necessarily a farewell too, but just to close with
the team that he had a huge impact on. Chris
Paul's arguably the best Clipper player of all time.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
And this just didn't sit right with me the way
they dogged him.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
And I want to back up a little bit because
they did the same thing to Blake Griffin. They signed
Blake to a big contract, Blake wanted to finish his
career as a Clipper. Months into his five year extent,
he gets traded. Now you bring CP three back, who
is the best player in the franchise on the map
cut me off.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Was that the same owner though? Right?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
No, same group, same group, same group. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So now, but again I think this is less. This
is not a bomber decision. These are This is a
this is management making these moves. But again, you bring
CP three back for his final run. You know, talking
to CP three leading up to this season, his priority
was being close to his family. You know, the last
handful of years, he's moved around a little bit and
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he's missed a lot of quality time. Is his son,
little Chris, his best friends with the twins, they're all
going through their little high school run right now. So
I think he prioritized being close. Luckily at the time
that was the Clippers. But for them to move the
way they did, for them to cut him in the
middle of the night on a road trip. When you
first heard about this, Max, what was your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Out? Ass? Shit? Man? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (37:02):
You gotta look CP three in his face and tell him, Okay, man,
this is what we getting ready to do. You cannot
blindly cut this. I mean, just like the leader. I mean,
I mean, that's so disrespectful, man, that's CP three, You.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Know how much that's what I'm saying, man, the NBA
is getting different now.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Man.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
This motherfuckers don't show us commas to the players that
they're supposed to be showing homage to. They show the
homage to these other motherfuckers that's coming and trying to
be what this motherfucker was.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You see what I'm saying, man, and so, and that's
what I don't like about the NBA right now. Man.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
And I speak on that shit too, because I don't like, like,
come on, we're talking about CP three, You talk about Lebron,
we're talking about We're talking about.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Guys getting disrespected.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Man, I'm talking about I mean, this motherfucker's first ballot
Hall of Famers.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Man, what the fuck are we talking about?
Speaker 5 (37:54):
We shouldn't even be sitting up here talking about And
he went back to fucking the Clippers to god.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Damn to do his farewell tour. And this is what
the fuck y'all gonna.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Man, Come on, man, they gonna he's gonna find out
this ship at three.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
O'clock in the morning. Man, Man, Man, that was meet
CP three.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Man out of had them goons out there right outside
there ready for Obama. Mama, you ain't had nothing to
do with it. I don't think you disrespected Chris Paul. He
probably already been wanted to do that though, you see
what I'm saying. His ass probably already wanted to do
that to Chris Chris. So what I hate that that
motherfucker had the homage and and he thought he was
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able to want to disrespect you like that, man, because
Chris Paul should never be disrespected when it comes.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
To definitely not, especially when you're hearing it again, we're
not there. I've talked to a few people from media,
uh and and kind of just the organization, you know,
talk to Chris a little bit, and and Chris really
didn't have no ship to talk surprisingly, And what I
told him was, I feel like they think they could
do this because you're gonna take the higher when they do.
You know, You're not a max, You're not a mere
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not as someone that's gonna fly off the hook when
you hear some disrespectful bullshit, you know, and then you
hear this stuff about Jeff van Gundy, you know, when
CP made a you know, a suggestion that hey, maybe
Kawhi shouldn't be chasing Clay around at this time, and
and and then Jeff Van Gundy pulls him to the
back of the plane and tells him he can't make
those kind of calls here, Like, Jeff, wake up, bro,
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you have a bottom third defense and if a nine
time All defensive player has a suggestion about how to
get that defense any better, your old ashes listen.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
And I think to move.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
To me, it sounded like just a lot of insecurity
coaches said to me, And that's what it hits. And
you know, I know TLU and obviously I never played
for Van Gundy, but you see the staff, Like you know,
Chris is a strong personality. You know, he leaves by
example and obviously he's not the player he was, but
his mind is still sharp. Absolutely help in any capacity.
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But I also heard Max and I can't say no names,
but there's a there's a snitch behind the scenes.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Come on, we always know us, all them bitch asses
niggas and them just stay on the team. I mean,
it's always a nigga that want to play. Ain't really
he righted on them playing. It's one of them niggas,
them niggas right there, man, But it's always that man.
Like I mean I was talking about about the rings
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man them niggas.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Man niggas cut me out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
But so I'm just saying it always them bitch ass niggas.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, I just hate that again, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
They know who they are too, and I'm mad, Mats
call you bitch. You know who you are.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
But a Clipper if the shoe fit where, you know,
the Clippers are organized organization I hold dear to my heart.
You know, I had a great run there and we
really have fun with those Lob City teams. But you know,
when you're a when you're a player, don't even know
how young players think anymore. So maybe this is old
school thinking, but when you see how they treat their
two franchise players, probably the two jerseys that should go
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into a dom are Chris Paul and Blake Griffin.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
And the way you dog both these.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Men after all they've done for these franchise to me,
that's what hurt me. You know, again, we don't know
what Chris said, what the coach said with the assistant
coach said with Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
We don't know none of that ship.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
It's hearsay and we're hearing sides of it, but just
from an outside looking at and a person who's been there.
How do you treat your two best players that have
ever played in your franchise the way you treat them
and expect growth and expect to turn things around. And
you know, obviously Bomber has done a great job turning
around what owner, the old owner tried to run into
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the ground. But you know, it's about these days and
it's about respect, but it's about morals. It's about discipline
and principle.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
And Matt, that's what I want to talk about too,
because you you said Lawrence Frank was able to do that.
But see the owner got the be the goddamn that
this is my ship.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
I'm not gonna.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Let you do this to this kid by here because
I know how much this motherfucker means to the NBA.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
So why wouldn't he.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Step in and say, no, motherfucker, we're not gonna get
rid of this motherfucker at three o'clock in the in
the morning.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
You ain't know what I'm saying. We're not even gonna
get rid of this morning. But I mean, come on,
what are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Conversation?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Everything we've heard was there was no there wasn't great
communication between TLU and CP and obviously the team's having
a bad year, so emotions are running high. But I
think that organization, that head coach, the g they at
least owed that to someone who puts so much in
a real conversation.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Man, let me say something too.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
I mean T Lou now, goddamn now, nigga, we love
you now, Goddamn, I love you now, boy, red ass nigga.
Now you acting like now, stop nigga. I love your
motherfucking ass. Now I stopped going.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
I could talk about your ass, but I.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Don't really want to do that. I don't really like
to talk about us. I don't like to talk about
it like this. T Lou man, you you man. You
should have done better.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
I'm Vernon Max, well, mad Max, whatever the fuck you
want to call me, Maxy whatever, nigga. T Lou, I
put it on you because use comed denominated nigga. You
could have said, nah, I can't do that to him
this Chris Paul, that's not do that.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
So but I put it on T Lou.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
It's just it's a bad look for the franchise. You
can't do your two best guys like that period. If
it was hard to handle, you got it's a terrible year.
Got four you got four more months. But the way
you did see many the way the way you do
one thing, and the way you do one.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Thing is the way you do everything. Max.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
All right, Max, Hey, before we get out of here,
real or sententail, I'm gonna run through some of these tweets, Max,
and you're gonna help me decide are they real or
are they cap.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
And got them?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Got mad Man?
Speaker 1 (44:23):
You got me Mad Tell them why you, mad Son?
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Tell them why you mad Son. Let's get these if.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
They if y'all, if y'all better not do nothing to Max.
I'm sorry, Madden, then ship Pippers.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
He just asked me a motherfucking question.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
I just answered the motherfucking question how I felt. Don't
do nothing, my brother, he ain't did nothing this me, mad, Max,
and y'all know I ain't ship I don't. I ain't
doing nothing in the motherfucking based on fuck you.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I'm sweating, all right.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Before we get out of here, get Max, get you
one more shot in the town before we get that here.
We got our segment. Now, real, lest and tell, let's
run through some tweets. We're gonna see if they're real
or some bullshit, Kobe, what you got for us?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Bro?
Speaker 7 (45:08):
All right, let's get into it. First tweet, Ben Simmons
says he is willing to play for the Sixers for free.
Is that real or c intel?
Speaker 5 (45:18):
I think that's real because I best have made so
much money for not playing, so he might be real.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Not playing. That might be real.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
He feels like he owns a team from playing for free,
So I think that's just realtail.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
What is it? Oh, it's facts. You're right, man, I
know it, Boye, that he'll get out there for free.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
I don't know that that niggas got a bunch of
money living calling.
Speaker 7 (45:51):
Dylan Brooks was heard yelling at Lebron the next five
years are mine.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Real or sentilil ship?
Speaker 8 (45:59):
Now?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
That is definitely intail, because I want to say Pat
Bev said that ship to Steph. If I'm not mistaken,
I don't think that worked out very well for Pat Bev.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
So that's intael. Okay, that's what I said. That's that
is okay because.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I'm not mistaking Pat Bev said that to Steph, and
I don't think that worked out very well for him.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Next question is it's a good one?
Speaker 7 (46:21):
Hendrick Perkins says Shadur Sanders is the most powerful black
man since President Obama.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Absolutely, yes, sir, Yes, sir, I would definitely yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Ship like that, so I would say, this is a
real tweet.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
I saw that ship earlier today. I know that.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
I know that's black. I saw that earlier today on
my tweet.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
So, speaking to my brother Kendrick Perkins, we're gonna be
sitting down with Perk Thursday.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah. Nah, yeah, Hey.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Y'all gonna be y'all gonna be at y'all gonna be
at a battle for who can say the most motherfuckers,
because Perks at the tunnel before we found you.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Max.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
The Clippers, Oh go ahead.
Speaker 7 (47:01):
The Clippers are expected to sign Lawrence Frank to a
contract extension.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
The Clippers are expected to sign Lawrence Frank. Don't look, don't.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
That's entail, Max, that's tail ship.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
That's just not true. That's tail ship. Motherfucker will not
get the way he's.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Chris Paul this roster together. I'm even looking past the
CP that that the roster that said, you're.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Saying they will pull my ship back up. When I
said it damage good, I said it before we started
the season. I said they had too much damage.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Good and I.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Think you did. I think this is sentail. You think
this is fact?
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Max?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I think this is facts. Are sentil centil. What do
we got here? This is real? This is real, Max,
I'm sorry. Wow, the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Have some words with Obama. Mom. What the fuck is
you doing?
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Y'all?
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Y'all ain't dead ship And so many years.
Speaker 7 (48:07):
The Brooklyn Nets have advised Michael Porter Junior to steer
clear of certain topics when he does podcast.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
This has gotta be facts because he's a wild crab boy,
young boy say anything.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 5 (48:18):
I like that because he is a wild one. He
like old Max. He he'll say anything.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
On that, but he'll ball. I like that.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
He hoping out there, hooping out there. Yeah, I think this.
We both think this is this is real. Yeah, Like,
this is indeed real. This is a fact, like the facts. Yeah, alright, Max,
appreciate your time. Brother. Always good to see you.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Y'all know I'm always here for all the smoke.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
Man, y'all niggas got me on the spot, man like, Man,
I love you motherfuckers.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Man, I'm gonna be here fall.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
I love you too, bro all the time. Bro, We
appreciate you. Max. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Happy Holidays.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Sparks and Fire presented you by Road Sparks, Fast Acting,
long lasting ed Treatment. The Warriors are one one piece
away from winning a title. Reports are the Kaminga era
might be coming to an end. The Nets are team
that have been linked to Kaminga for a while. What
do you think of kaminga plus a piece for Michael
(49:15):
Porter Junior? Michael Porter Junior is having a career. What's
the averagance like twenty about to say twenty eight? Michael
Porter Juniors having a career year. He played his role
and understood the game and in one one of marine
in Denver, and now he's letting his wings, spreading his
wings in in Brooklyn. A kaminga for Michael Porter Junior
(49:38):
is that put the Warriors in championship contention? I like
Michael Porter Junior, but I don't I don't think so.
I think that gives him a lot of scoring punch,
but it doesn't add anything on the defensive end. So
I'm gonna have to say, this is sparks, this is
not fire. I really like what Porter's doing over there.
If I was him, I want to stay over there.
(50:00):
You already got your ring, bro, keep hooping, get you
a big ass contract. Don't go to none of these
teams that are gonna try to make you conform your game.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
You had to do that already. Try to average thirty
the rest of your career and get as much money
as you can.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Speaking of the Warriors, they got a new sheriff in town,
mister nine to five, and our homies at Stoner Sports
Network have a little video for him.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Bro.
Speaker 9 (50:21):
I tuned in to watch Steph First Spider instead, I'm
watching Pat Spencer wave motherfuckers out the gym. Look, Garius
Garland can't believe Zach Efron doing this shit. Then he
hit him with the two hand wave like he just
want to Emmy or something. Welcome to the Stoner sixty
percent of by Unplugged.
Speaker 8 (50:34):
See I knew Past Spencer was different when he got
on that with Shane Goonlows you had Button Man from Turkey.
You really bought that shit. Shane Goon looking like damn
bro over basketball my fault.
Speaker 9 (50:43):
Yeah, you know he that motherfucking now Jay y'all see
bro face behind him. Yeah, Pat bust and the ass
so bad it gave him gas pain.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
I'm that motherfucker.
Speaker 9 (50:50):
I ain't gonna lies giving Wolf on Wall Street vibe.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
And he got his white boy with him. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (50:55):
Crazy enough. They say it's not even his best sport lows.
This man won the tourch and Award, the Lacrosse Heisman.
He had dude staggering. You make somebody touch earth in
any sport U crak. Plus he got the most assists
all time and a patrio Letgue goals record. They have
to say he was really him mind he did all
that didn't decide you know what, I want to go to.
The NBA goes to Northwestern, proves he can hoop just
as good. Ended up in Germany. They found his way
to the j lea Steve Curse. All this shit said,
(51:16):
Oh he can pass and cut you sign his ass up.
Speaker 9 (51:19):
He can pass, cut, shoot shit while you playing bro
fuck around bang that motherfucking too. Appreciate you tapping in
with the Stoners sixty.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
I love what this guy, Pat Spencer has been able
to do a lacrosse player. Shout out to my guy
Scott over at Legends. Pat actually does some stuff with Legends.
I prefer a guy to be one of the greatest
lacrosse players ever crossover make an NBA roster. He's on
a two way deal, but it's really been playing good basketball.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Man. I love stories like this.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
And continue success and hopefully they take you off that
two way deal and give you a full time Warriors Jersey.
Pick six segment is presented by DraftKings Wednesday night games.
First look Suns versus Thunder SGA is going to have
more points then the DraftKings Pick six has him slated at.
(52:08):
And that's the same a lot because them boys in
Phoenix are playing rough and tough, and I gotta give
Dylan Brooks some love. That man's been playing both sides
of the ball really well. He's a goon. They could
score the ball and he's gonna be all over SGA.
So we're gonna see, but that's gonna be a good matchup.
But I'm always gonna go with SGA. And next look
at the Lakers versus the Spurs. I think Lebron is
(52:28):
gonna have more points than the DraftKings pick six slate
has him set at. That's a rap for unplugged. Thank
you to my man Max for stopping by. You can
catch us on all the Smoke Productions, YouTube, and the
DraftKings Network.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
We'll see y'all next week.
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