May 9, 2025 • 26 mins
Wildlife conservation starts with people—of all ages. In this episode, hosts Rick and Marco speak with Lisa Biasillo, vice president of wildlife education programs for San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance. The San Diego Zoo and San Diego Zoo Safari Park have numerous programs that inspire and educate youths and adults, empowering them to become active in conservation so they can make a difference in their communities and around the world. Tune in to find out more about what they learn, and the importance of environmental literacy.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Ruby.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hi, I'm Rick Schwartz.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
When el Z s world, I'm Marco went.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome to Amazing Wildlife, where we explore unique stories of
wildlife from around the world and uncovered fascinating animal facts.
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San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance in international nonprofit conservation organization
which oversees the San Diego Zoo and Safari Park.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
You know, Rick, it's a Monday morning, and I really
appreciate you for doing those lines every single time. You know,
It's great, you know, but life is good. Right, We're
at the San Diego Zoo. We got a manned in
the crew here. Man, how we looking and looking pretty good?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah? Man is giving us the thumbs.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Up, you know, because there is that visual component too,
reminding our little listeners right which.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I do wonder where Marco, will the visual component.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Be possibly on YouTube in the future, the other media and.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Interestingly enough tell me this time of year, we always
like to talk about the fact that YouTube's very first
video was uploaded from the San Diego Zoo by the
founder of YouTube way back in the day.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
To think how much YouTube has grown right.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Now, how much has this podcast grown. Oh, I know,
and just keep.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
An eye out on our Instagram handles myself on TikTok
as well as Zoology Rick or Zoology Marco's for us
to promote a little of it in the future. But
we're not here just to hang out right and enjoy
our Monday. We're here in this beautiful reptire room also
used as an educational room.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, and that's what I love about this episode.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
We're going to dive into the importance of wildlife education,
conservation education, and that's really what this podcast has always
been about. Right, So, I think it's time to introduce
Lisa via Lisa gonnass up your last names Solo Bslo,
Lisa Yelso, the vice president of Education here at San
Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance. What exactly does that title mean?
It seems like a pretty big that's a lot going
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on there.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Yeah, it is. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Yes, So, the vice president of Education works with all
the different educational initiatives for the entire alliance. That means
I work with the education staff at the zoo and
at the Safari Park and out of our Conservation Science
Research Center. So we have more than thirty education programs
across the Alliance, delivering all different types of education, whether
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it's field trips, summer camps, after school programs, weekend programming,
teacher professional development.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I could go on and.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
On, right, and I think that's important for our audience
to understand that our Education department isn't just like tours or.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
A summer camp, temporary thing.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The breath and scope of all of this that we
do as an organization for education. I think a lot
of people don't fully understand that. So that's what I'm
really excited that you're here with us today. Also, by
the way, you wrote an article that's going to be
in the main journal, so our members that are out there,
they're going to see this article as well, and we're
talking a little bit about some of the things you
touch on in that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Article as well.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Excellent, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
He hinted a little bit about the article, but in general,
I got a sneak peak a little.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Bit, just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And we always say, you know, working here at the
Zoo and the Safari Park, animals are amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
They inspire everyone.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
But what we say conservation begins with human beings, right,
So we got to start even with the little youngsters.
So I really appreciate you coming in and highlighting all
the unique opportunities we're giving the kids of San Diego
County and a lot of people from the world too
in these programs. So, yeah, can you tell me a
little about this awesome article that Rick was hinting at?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Sure, So this is an article that's coming out in
the journal, okay, and it's focused all about what we
do in education and what is the real purpose and mission.
And our purpose is to connect people with nature and
with wildlife and with each other, because you're very right
that conservation begins with people, and to make sure that
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students have the knowledge, the skills, the efficacy to really
make a difference in their communities. That's the main mission
of all of our.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Education programs, right, I love it.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I mean a little bit ago, there is a program
that you all have facilitated that I was really stoked about.
I think it was called Conservation Core I from not mistaken,
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Right?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, can you highlight a little bit about that because
that was a really cool experience for me.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
But I think you better describe it better than I.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Conservation Corps is an amazing program. It's been running for
ten years and it runs out of the Safari Park
and it is geared towards high school students and what
they do is they apply, they do a group interview,
and if they're selected, they spend two saturdays a month
with us. So these are high schoolers that want to
give up two saturdays a month to spend time with
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us at the Safari Park and out in the community
doing conservation work. So they're learning all about conservation challenges,
they're finding conservation solutions, they're giving back to the community,
and they're developing their leadership skills. So it's a really
special program that goes for four semesters.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh it's incredible. Honestly, when I was there seeing the kids'
faces and some of them.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Like reminded me of me, Like I swear I saw
a little like my key dolls there around in front
of it, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But what I loved about, like, I'm a native.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
San Diego and I grew up here and at the time,
there wasn't a lot of diversity being represented in some
of the programs. As a child, I was trying to
get involved in but now today, I see the diversity
of different people nuances of community we support, especially me
speaking to the Latino community, So I really really appreciate that.
That's really great to integrate how zoos can also support
local community as well.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
And that's a big part of our mission. Our mission
is to be part of the community and embedded in
the community.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And I think what you had said earlier too, is
that installing that empathy and that knowledge of how people
can make a difference. And we both Mark and I
come from a history of wildlife education outreach to the
public that a lot of times you go into the
more urban areas, the city communities, and there's this disconnected
I can't really do anything because I don't live near
these areas. Talk a little bit about what you've seen
and experience as far as these kids going through these
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programs or some of the things that can help inspire
those that might be in more urban areas that feel
a little removed from wildlife definitely.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
So I think we try to tackle that in a
few different ways. One is in the programs themselves, so
sometimes we're going out into the community, and sometimes we're
bringing the community on site and just letting them experience
the amazing wildlife we have here at the zoo of
the park, the amazing.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Plant life that we have.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
But we all so always try to instill the sense
that nature is all around us, so it can be
found in pocket parks and on our balconies and all
these different areas that you don't have to drive somewhere
really far, that nature's not separate from us.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
We're all also part of nature.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I love that I'm saying that all the time. You know,
it doesn't matter where you live. That one of the
wonderful things I love about the Safari Park in the
San Diegos it was an ability to get reconnected. Like
my favorite thing is when I see some guests who've
never been there before. They come in and honestly, the
first thing they do is like they take a big
side now and they forget like we're all human, we're
all mammals, right, We're all in these ecosystems, and we
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forget to get connected again. So I just love this program.
Can ask you, like, what inspired you to really to
startle this? Why do you feel education is so important
in a zoo setting.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's a loaded question, I know.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah, how much time do we have to tell me.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I'm a lifelong educator. So I was a teacher, I
was a school principal. I was also a school director,
and I worked in international schools. So I worked in
South Korea, in Cambodia and Rwanda and Austria. But I
always felt like something was missing, and that was that
environmental literacy, that was sustainability stewardship, and that just became
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more and more important to me. So I needed to
find the perfect job that would let me meld these
two things, and the San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance is
the place for that. So everything that we're doing is
just around environmental literacy and empathy for wildlife and connection.
So it allows me to live the very best part
about education and the natural world.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That's really great.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
I'm really lucky.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
But I have to ask you said it two times,
something's picked up on it, Rick, But environmental literacy. You know,
we have a lot of adultsa listen to the podcast,
but there's a lot of kids as well.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Can you highlight what that really means?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (07:44):
So environmental literacy is the ability to understand about the
natural world, about environmental ethics. It could be something as
simple as understanding about recycling. So we would take the
concept of environmental literacy and we really gear it towards
the age group that's in front of us. Well, make
sure it's developmentally appropriate and each appropriate.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, I mean you each change it up right, elementary kids,
high school kids, you know, adults. You got to gear
your communication into that way. So that's a very nuanced
e FIA. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
One thing I want to ask you, it's something that
I know, Mark when I've run into over the years
of doing wildlife education in many different formats, But I
love your take on it in the sense of a
lot of times when kids start to become excited about
wildlife and they want to learn more, some of the
first things they hear about is they're endangered or the
challenges they face in the wild.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Due to habitat loss.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Sometimes for a lot of people, that can be very
overwhelming to the point of almost you need to turn
away from it, because it's just like, how can I,
as a kid or a high school or make a
difference when it comes to creating that empathy you're talking
about in that environmental literacy. What are some of the
things that can empower kids to feel not overwhelmed and
that they can make a difference.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
That is a great question and something that we take
so seriously. Believe that children of all different ages can
learn about the challenges that are facing our planet today.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Absolutely, but how we.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Introduce that content is just as important as the content itself,
So we need to make sure that it's very carefully chosen,
we're being very intentional, and again that it's age appropriate,
and we're always pairing success stories, stories of hope, and
also concepts around empathy for wildlife, and we pair those
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things together so that students and young learners, young adults,
really any age can see that they have agency and
they have efficacy and what they do can make a difference.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
So we have to be really careful.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
And then if we're talking about possibly older learners, maybe
you have teens like our team program we were talking about,
they're really ready for complex conversations, right, They have the
skills to research, they like to dialogue, they like to debate,
and so we can go into much greater depth there.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
But again we always bring it back back to action.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
So we often talk about our work and the alliance,
we talk about what's happening in the world, and what
they can do in their community.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I think sharing stories about things that had success.
So you might be focusing or talking about in a
dangered environment or critically dangered species, but you can also
look at that and go and here's the species that
was there ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. But the work
is starting to turn that around. So that same type
of work and commitment can turn it around for this
species if we apply it appropriately. So it's a great
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concept and I think it's important part of their discussion
here today because we have parents that listen, and it's
one thing I always think about it is like, how
can a parent make sure their child can learn these
important facts that these animals are having challenges but it's
not hopeless. It's hopeful there are successes out there, and
then becoming involved and passionate about it can also make
a difference for these species around the world.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Oh So, like a little follow up to what Rick
had just said, do you have any recommendations like what
parents could sign their kids up for in some of
the programs we have here in the Alliance?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
So the top thing that comes to mind right now
is camp. Yes, we have a very very large summer
camp here, especially at the San Diego Zoo. Starting next year,
our summer camp will be back at the San Diego
Zoo Safari Park, and that is just such a time,
that's so much fun. We have kids coming in every week,
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We plan all these fun activities and they get to
experience wildlife and unique ways that they don't get if
they just come as a regular zoo visitor. So that
is probably the number one offering that parents are always
looking for. We occasionally have other programs that either young
adults like teens can sign themselves up for or parents,
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And then we have a lot of opportunities for teachers
as well, so teachers, Yeah, teachers can come for professional development.
They can also come for field trips. And we can
also create really meaningful partnerships. So we have partnerships with
different schools where we run things like after.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
School programs Oh Wow.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
And if someone's not in the area and they're interested
in learning more as a parent or as a teacher,
can go to our website. So we have our Wildlife
Explorer's website which has curriculum on it. It has all
different activities for children and they can learn a.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Lot about that's wildlife Explorers the website. But also I
mean as a parent, I can say the camps are awesome.
My daughter's been through a couple of.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Times, and she's grown up in the zoo basically.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Because of where I wonder where its work.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
But because there's so many different activities involved in the
process of learning, you know, the arts and the crafts,
the exploring, the different things they have to do to
find out information, and it's always so age appropriate. So yeah,
then people can find out more information on that just
on the website, Sandy goozo dot org.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
But I'm so happy to hear it's coming back to
the fly Park next year. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Yeah, we are really excited. So it was just paused
during the construction of Elephant Valley. Yeah, and now we're
going to bring it back. It's going to be bigger
and better than ever.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
That's right, right, look at for Elephant Battle a little
later on next year, you know, sometime earlier next year.
So that's going to be really cool. But you said
something that like made me think. You said teacher programs.
It's really interesting because most people think of just kid
focused educational programs. Can you speak a little more about
what programs we offer for teachers because man, they need support.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Right definitely. As a former teacher, my heart has always been.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Teacher professionals development.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
So we have this amazing program over the summer where
teachers can come we call them teacher workshops. It's residential
and then they come on to site at the Conservation
Science Research Center and they get to learn about all
the different programs that we do, and our community engagement
team delivers those. They're learning how to deliver different labs
for their students. It's geared towards middle school and high
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school teachers, and the best thing about it is after
they go through all this training and they have this
great sense of community with their cohort.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
If they don't have the.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Materials in their school to deliver those labs, we send
it to them.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Nice we send it to them.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
We send it to them completely free, and the training
is completely free, and we even offset costs with a stipend.
It's the most amazing program that's just generously funded by
some donors and provides amazing professional development for teachers. And
we've had teachers not just from San Diego, but across
the country and even participants from across the world.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Rightly well, a big thank you for donors, because that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I love that program.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I'm actually going to be going to it's called the
Latin American Easy a Cup outside just a couple of weeks,
and I'm going to be speaking about this particular program
to help remind people of the support, because we all
got to do this together, right, I mean, that's why
have these eight conservation hubs around the world, over two
hundred collaborators, and like we said earlier, teachers really need support.
I was in Beckman a little bit ago watching one
of these school programs and something that I really love.
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There is a way for translating direct English interpretations in
different languages. So I saw kids that are Spanish speaking
natives learning what the teacher, our educators are showing through
this wonderful tech that we were offering too.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And the teachers are going in English and in Spanish.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
And for me growing up, I was one of the
few kids speaking Spanish and it was very difficult for
me learning in that way.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
So that's amazing that we.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Offer sources of teachers for students, real time education and translations.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So man, you guys are doing it all. You're killing
it out there.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
We are trying to be very inclusive and make sure
that all of our programs can reach all of the learners.
When people come for a field trip, we often don't
know what the student's needs are before they arrive. So
it's really important that that responsibility is on us, that
we can make our lessons accessible and we can make
every student successful and every student feel like a scientist.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
And so part of that is being.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Able to understand all of those really key vocabulary that
they're learning in their science lessons. So I'm so glad
you got to see it. We actually just started that
maybe six months ago, so yeah, that's I'm really glad
that you got to.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Why and they say, brightened up they were involved in
it because that was rough for me. I didn't want
to speak up as a kid. I was embarrassed not
being able to speak English. So it's me and my
heart smile. So thank you for that. That was really cool.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
The impact of that too.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Margo's talking about I want our audience to understand that
making these accommodations for those who can be completely participating
that way. It is, like you said, it's our responsibility
to meet these students where they are it's our responsibility
to meet the communities where they are, no matter where
they are. If we can have the tools to meet
them where they are, to bring them up in the
sense of understanding the need for conservation education, that's such
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a huge impact. Instead of tasking others to have to
struggle to meet us where we are, we can go
to them and offer that hand up as far as
the understanding and the comprehension, like you said, feeling a
part of it that way, empowering them that much more.
That leads me than to want to ask you too,
from your experience in your years, I mean you're taught
all over as a teacher now here in this organization,
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these amazing programs for you, what have you seen as
an impact? Like what is that warm fuzzy you get sometimes?
You know, because we all get them, we all get
choked up in that moment of oh my gosh, there
it is. There's the impact.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
What is that for you?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Yeah, I would say that, I mean it happens often.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
I'm sure there's so many different ways that it can happen.
But especially when you see young adults come back and
they come back and they share stories, they share how
something like Conservation Corps or other teen programs have helped
them pick a career path. It's helped them find a
sense of community, and that is amazing. We have a
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staff member in our education department that came through camp
and zoo Core. I was at a teacher symposium at
on Zabrago Desert State Park recently and the ranger who
was doing our interpretation came through zoo Core.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
And so you make networks in the community and you
talk to people and you realize how many lives have
been impacted by some of these programs.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
And a lot of these programs are not big.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
You know, maybe only twenty or twenty five students at
a time are going through them, and there are a
lot of hours and they spend a lot of time
with us. But that's how we can create really meaningful
change is by having these relationships.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Absolutely, I want to ask more about Zoocre because it's
funny you mentioned that the person you you know.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Have gone through it now you see them as an adult.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I was a wildlifere specialist in the children's who eons ago.
When I first started, I met a young boy I
think he was probably for seven other time and they
didn't even live in San Diego, but they were here
all the time, he and his mom, And long story short,
he waited till he was whold enough. He did Zucor.
His mom would drive him all the way down for
Orange County to be a part of Zucorp. He crushed
it in Zucor. He went to college for zoology and
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now he's the keeper at the Fresno Zoo.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
And so that's the level of impact programs like this have,
is that it's that inspiration that then lights that fire.
So tell me a little bit tell our audience I
say a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
About zuok Coorp. It's one thing we haven't mentioned yet.
I'd love for you to expand on that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Zoopor is a program.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
It's another teen program that we have and actually right
now we're redesigning it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah, So it's paused and what we're going to be
doing is we are going to work with teens and
we are.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Going to co design it.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Oh wow.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Yes, so we want to relaunch it and we want
to make sure that it's everything that teens.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Are looking for. So yeah, so we're right in the process. Again.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
We just secured some very generous funding to allow us
to do this so that we can reimagine it and
make sure it's meeting all the needs of teens. As
you know, things change and evolving needs. So that's where
we are with Zooko right now. But that is another
weekend program where students self select to spend a lot
of time with us and we get just full saturdays
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with them and we can do all sorts of things,
so we can do career exploration, leadership development, professional skill development,
and they can try on different hats for different positions
around the organization. And so I think it's really important
too that for young people that are very passionate about
wildlife or nature, they realize there are more jobs than
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just a wildlife care specialist, right, there are so many
different opportunities, and that we can take that love for
wildlife and nature.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Into almost old different professions.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
So we really like to also give that career exploration
opportunity and a lot of our older.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Programs, right, that's amazing. I'm actually part of what's called
Plane to See program. It's under the culture and belonging
our DEIA initiatives here in the Alliance. The similar concept
too is we want different communities, people of color, unsupported communities,
possibly depending where we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Intercity communities, specifically.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Around the zoo and also in the Safari Park because
I grew up in Escondido, Escondido High kids coming up.
But just show exactly that that wildlife care I mean
where the lines is like a big city.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
So everything from like if you're into PR, public relations,
social media, are into cameras video.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
And that was like my latest way of describing how
awesome you guys work. It's behind the cameras. But but
but the point is, right, Yeah, you can apply what
you're good at.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
You know, for instance, my husband is great with technology,
he's working for the Alliance. But to that point, all
kinds of people, all different backgrounds, apply what you love
and you can be part of something big or something
that kind of impacts the world in.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
A good way. Right. So that's awesome. I love that.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I love that the redesign of Zucorp is now including
teams inputs. So again that takes that concept to meet
them where they are so we can have the biggest impact.
Stead of asking them to meet us where we are,
we can take our stuff to them.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
That is so amazing. I absolutely love that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
That's inspiring.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
It makes me think of where we're at now, like
Wildlife Explorers based and some of the designers working with
child psychologists to really learn how kids grow and process information.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
And the key is sounds silly, but just to listen, right,
to listen to what the needs are of the youth
of these communities.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So that's that's awesome. Friend. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I actually have a side question because I'm always curious
about this one that I asked, and it might throw
your out.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
At the loop, friend, but I am furious. What You're
ready for this?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
What is your favorite animal or plant of all the time?
You know, I say plant also because organisms because maybe
it's something different. So of everything out there, what's your favorite?
I know, rickron right crusted for me.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
What's it for you?
Speaker 6 (21:46):
So I am going to have to pick something that's
not actually.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Here that's for you.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
That's fine.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I love Newdi branks.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
So sea slugs we got called out rich. I love
sea slugs and I'm a big tide pooler. And here
in San Diego you can see so many different types
of moody branks in our tide pools, and so I
think one of my favorites is the Hopkins Rose right,
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pink bubblegum pink sea slug. I encourage you to look
it up if you're listening and you don't know, So
we want everyone.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
To look at the hops What is it?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Hopkins Ross I'm going to go, I know.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
But also reminded why San Diego is so great, right,
I mean not only our conservation parks right this at
Fari Parks San Diego, so you put all the wildlife
around San Diego. I mean it is one of our
conservation hubs right over the biodiversity here. Thank you for
answering that. That's really cool and I feel like I
know you a little better.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well with that.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Before we wrap up, I do want to ask is
there anything that you would like to share with the
audience about your work or education for wildlife and conservation
that we haven't touched on yet.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Oh that's a great question.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
I guess the biggest takeaway I would have is just
that whether you're a parent listening or you're a young
person a teacher, just fostering that sense of empathy and
feeling connected to nature, it can happen anywhere, and it
happens by slowing.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Down and really looking right.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Asking questions, feeling that sense of inquiry and curiosity. Whether
you're just going for a walk in your neighborhood, maybe
you're walking your dog. Look, look in the flowers, see
what's happening, See if you see any insects. And the
more we feel connected to nature, the stronger we will
be as a community.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Thank you so much. I really appreciate you taking the
time to meet with listeners.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Thank you. I really appreciate you inviting me.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Excellent.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I love that. That was great.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I love the recommendation just being calm and looking around
because I just keep talking about that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Just take a moment instead of running around like I
always am, you know.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Take a month, look up, look at a bird, look
at a tree, look at a butterfly.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, and that's one thing too.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I always hope people when they come to the zoo,
it is like, make sure you slow down and look
in the habitats for a while, because the animal might
be looking like it's sleeping, but it might get up
in two minutes.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You'll take your time.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
But she's right.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It also applies to when we're outside I love the
term she used pocket park.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
You know, small urban areas, right, Yeah, yeah, those are
the places or.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Even like you know, on your balcony or a patio,
a potted plant might have a caterpillar in it, or
something curious to watch it, watching a spider make its web,
any of that stuff, and then growing that empathy and
having that curiosity.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It's so so important.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh man, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Someone's good work that they're doing too, and it reminds
me see the benefits of being in a zoo, right,
whether it be supporting park or the San Diego is
not just for wildlife care and plants, you know, conservation,
which is very important, but building up community, supporting community
and empowering community.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And like she said, if you're not in the San
Diego area, check out your local zoo. Check out your
local you know, maybe you're living near the ocean and
there's some sort of aquarium you can check out, or
any of those areas where there's a chance, even if
it's just a a nature park to take a hike
through a hundred there's usually some sort of literature or
things you can look up.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
And now with our phones, you can take a picture
and go what is this? I know you can learn
more that way as well.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
So there's always an opportunity to get more in touch
with nature and follow that curiosity.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
And I couldn't set a better mess up on me
going that article, right, it's going to be in May, yes, major, Yeah,
So everyone keeping out for that.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
We've been doing so much this year so far, it's
been really really cool. But I think we have another
little extra thing we're going to offer for the next episode.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Right, We're going to change it up a little.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Bit, a little bit in the sense that really like
the future and talking a little more about the future.
But it's kind of leaning in the fact, like you mentioned,
this year twenty twenty five, we've talked about it for
it is the fiftieth anniversary of the Frozen it is
it is. We happen to have somebody available we can
talk to that's been there as an intern from the
beginning and is now the curator.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Of the Frozen Zoo.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Not only can we talk a little bit about the history,
but also a lot about where it's going.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I know, I'm excited, man, it's going to be about
women in science, see the future. What's happening so I
get it's going to be great, all right, and we're
going to go to this safari park, which you know
always makes me very very happy.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, be sure to join.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Us and subscribe if you haven't already, to make sure
you catch what's going on in the future at the
Frozen Zoo.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
All Marcolet and I'm Rick Schwartz.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Thanks for listening or watching.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hi, I'm Rick Schwartz.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
When el Z s world, I'm Marco went.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome to Amazing Wildlife, where we explore unique stories of
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Speaker 4 (00:32):
You know, Rick, it's a Monday morning, and I really
appreciate you for doing those lines every single time. You know,
It's great, you know, but life is good. Right, We're
at the San Diego Zoo. We got a manned in
the crew here. Man, how we looking and looking pretty good?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah? Man is giving us the thumbs.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Up, you know, because there is that visual component too,
reminding our little listeners right which.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I do wonder where Marco, will the visual component.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Be possibly on YouTube in the future, the other media and.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Interestingly enough tell me this time of year, we always
like to talk about the fact that YouTube's very first
video was uploaded from the San Diego Zoo by the
founder of YouTube way back in the day.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
To think how much YouTube has grown right.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Now, how much has this podcast grown. Oh, I know,
and just keep.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
An eye out on our Instagram handles myself on TikTok
as well as Zoology Rick or Zoology Marco's for us
to promote a little of it in the future. But
we're not here just to hang out right and enjoy
our Monday. We're here in this beautiful reptire room also
used as an educational room.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, and that's what I love about this episode.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
We're going to dive into the importance of wildlife education,
conservation education, and that's really what this podcast has always
been about. Right, So, I think it's time to introduce
Lisa via Lisa gonnass up your last names Solo Bslo,
Lisa Yelso, the vice president of Education here at San
Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance. What exactly does that title mean?
It seems like a pretty big that's a lot going
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on there.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Yeah, it is. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Yes, So, the vice president of Education works with all
the different educational initiatives for the entire alliance. That means
I work with the education staff at the zoo and
at the Safari Park and out of our Conservation Science
Research Center. So we have more than thirty education programs
across the Alliance, delivering all different types of education, whether
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it's field trips, summer camps, after school programs, weekend programming,
teacher professional development.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I could go on and.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
On, right, and I think that's important for our audience
to understand that our Education department isn't just like tours or.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
A summer camp, temporary thing.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The breath and scope of all of this that we
do as an organization for education. I think a lot
of people don't fully understand that. So that's what I'm
really excited that you're here with us today. Also, by
the way, you wrote an article that's going to be
in the main journal, so our members that are out there,
they're going to see this article as well, and we're
talking a little bit about some of the things you
touch on in that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Article as well.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Excellent, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
He hinted a little bit about the article, but in general,
I got a sneak peak a little.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Bit, just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And we always say, you know, working here at the
Zoo and the Safari Park, animals are amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
They inspire everyone.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
But what we say conservation begins with human beings, right,
So we got to start even with the little youngsters.
So I really appreciate you coming in and highlighting all
the unique opportunities we're giving the kids of San Diego
County and a lot of people from the world too
in these programs. So, yeah, can you tell me a
little about this awesome article that Rick was hinting at?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Sure, So this is an article that's coming out in
the journal, okay, and it's focused all about what we
do in education and what is the real purpose and mission.
And our purpose is to connect people with nature and
with wildlife and with each other, because you're very right
that conservation begins with people, and to make sure that
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students have the knowledge, the skills, the efficacy to really
make a difference in their communities. That's the main mission
of all of our.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Education programs, right, I love it.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I mean a little bit ago, there is a program
that you all have facilitated that I was really stoked about.
I think it was called Conservation Core I from not mistaken,
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Right?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, can you highlight a little bit about that because
that was a really cool experience for me.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
But I think you better describe it better than I.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Conservation Corps is an amazing program. It's been running for
ten years and it runs out of the Safari Park
and it is geared towards high school students and what
they do is they apply, they do a group interview,
and if they're selected, they spend two saturdays a month
with us. So these are high schoolers that want to
give up two saturdays a month to spend time with
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us at the Safari Park and out in the community
doing conservation work. So they're learning all about conservation challenges,
they're finding conservation solutions, they're giving back to the community,
and they're developing their leadership skills. So it's a really
special program that goes for four semesters.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh it's incredible. Honestly, when I was there seeing the kids'
faces and some of them.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Like reminded me of me, Like I swear I saw
a little like my key dolls there around in front
of it, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But what I loved about, like, I'm a native.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
San Diego and I grew up here and at the time,
there wasn't a lot of diversity being represented in some
of the programs. As a child, I was trying to
get involved in but now today, I see the diversity
of different people nuances of community we support, especially me
speaking to the Latino community, So I really really appreciate that.
That's really great to integrate how zoos can also support
local community as well.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
And that's a big part of our mission. Our mission
is to be part of the community and embedded in
the community.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And I think what you had said earlier too, is
that installing that empathy and that knowledge of how people
can make a difference. And we both Mark and I
come from a history of wildlife education outreach to the
public that a lot of times you go into the
more urban areas, the city communities, and there's this disconnected
I can't really do anything because I don't live near
these areas. Talk a little bit about what you've seen
and experience as far as these kids going through these
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programs or some of the things that can help inspire
those that might be in more urban areas that feel
a little removed from wildlife definitely.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
So I think we try to tackle that in a
few different ways. One is in the programs themselves, so
sometimes we're going out into the community, and sometimes we're
bringing the community on site and just letting them experience
the amazing wildlife we have here at the zoo of
the park, the amazing.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Plant life that we have.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
But we all so always try to instill the sense
that nature is all around us, so it can be
found in pocket parks and on our balconies and all
these different areas that you don't have to drive somewhere
really far, that nature's not separate from us.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
We're all also part of nature.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I love that I'm saying that all the time. You know,
it doesn't matter where you live. That one of the
wonderful things I love about the Safari Park in the
San Diegos it was an ability to get reconnected. Like
my favorite thing is when I see some guests who've
never been there before. They come in and honestly, the
first thing they do is like they take a big
side now and they forget like we're all human, we're
all mammals, right, We're all in these ecosystems, and we
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forget to get connected again. So I just love this program.
Can ask you, like, what inspired you to really to
startle this? Why do you feel education is so important
in a zoo setting.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's a loaded question, I know.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah, how much time do we have to tell me.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I'm a lifelong educator. So I was a teacher, I
was a school principal. I was also a school director,
and I worked in international schools. So I worked in
South Korea, in Cambodia and Rwanda and Austria. But I
always felt like something was missing, and that was that
environmental literacy, that was sustainability stewardship, and that just became
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more and more important to me. So I needed to
find the perfect job that would let me meld these
two things, and the San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance is
the place for that. So everything that we're doing is
just around environmental literacy and empathy for wildlife and connection.
So it allows me to live the very best part
about education and the natural world.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That's really great.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
I'm really lucky.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
But I have to ask you said it two times,
something's picked up on it, Rick, But environmental literacy. You know,
we have a lot of adultsa listen to the podcast,
but there's a lot of kids as well.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Can you highlight what that really means?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (07:44):
So environmental literacy is the ability to understand about the
natural world, about environmental ethics. It could be something as
simple as understanding about recycling. So we would take the
concept of environmental literacy and we really gear it towards
the age group that's in front of us. Well, make
sure it's developmentally appropriate and each appropriate.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, I mean you each change it up right, elementary kids,
high school kids, you know, adults. You got to gear
your communication into that way. So that's a very nuanced
e FIA. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
One thing I want to ask you, it's something that
I know, Mark when I've run into over the years
of doing wildlife education in many different formats, But I
love your take on it in the sense of a
lot of times when kids start to become excited about
wildlife and they want to learn more, some of the
first things they hear about is they're endangered or the
challenges they face in the wild.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Due to habitat loss.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Sometimes for a lot of people, that can be very
overwhelming to the point of almost you need to turn
away from it, because it's just like, how can I,
as a kid or a high school or make a
difference when it comes to creating that empathy you're talking
about in that environmental literacy. What are some of the
things that can empower kids to feel not overwhelmed and
that they can make a difference.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
That is a great question and something that we take
so seriously. Believe that children of all different ages can
learn about the challenges that are facing our planet today.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Absolutely, but how we.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Introduce that content is just as important as the content itself,
So we need to make sure that it's very carefully chosen,
we're being very intentional, and again that it's age appropriate,
and we're always pairing success stories, stories of hope, and
also concepts around empathy for wildlife, and we pair those
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things together so that students and young learners, young adults,
really any age can see that they have agency and
they have efficacy and what they do can make a difference.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
So we have to be really careful.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
And then if we're talking about possibly older learners, maybe
you have teens like our team program we were talking about,
they're really ready for complex conversations, right, They have the
skills to research, they like to dialogue, they like to debate,
and so we can go into much greater depth there.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
But again we always bring it back back to action.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
So we often talk about our work and the alliance,
we talk about what's happening in the world, and what
they can do in their community.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I think sharing stories about things that had success.
So you might be focusing or talking about in a
dangered environment or critically dangered species, but you can also
look at that and go and here's the species that
was there ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. But the work
is starting to turn that around. So that same type
of work and commitment can turn it around for this
species if we apply it appropriately. So it's a great
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concept and I think it's important part of their discussion
here today because we have parents that listen, and it's
one thing I always think about it is like, how
can a parent make sure their child can learn these
important facts that these animals are having challenges but it's
not hopeless. It's hopeful there are successes out there, and
then becoming involved and passionate about it can also make
a difference for these species around the world.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Oh So, like a little follow up to what Rick
had just said, do you have any recommendations like what
parents could sign their kids up for in some of
the programs we have here in the Alliance?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
So the top thing that comes to mind right now
is camp. Yes, we have a very very large summer
camp here, especially at the San Diego Zoo. Starting next year,
our summer camp will be back at the San Diego
Zoo Safari Park, and that is just such a time,
that's so much fun. We have kids coming in every week,
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We plan all these fun activities and they get to
experience wildlife and unique ways that they don't get if
they just come as a regular zoo visitor. So that
is probably the number one offering that parents are always
looking for. We occasionally have other programs that either young
adults like teens can sign themselves up for or parents,
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And then we have a lot of opportunities for teachers
as well, so teachers, Yeah, teachers can come for professional development.
They can also come for field trips. And we can
also create really meaningful partnerships. So we have partnerships with
different schools where we run things like after.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
School programs Oh Wow.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
And if someone's not in the area and they're interested
in learning more as a parent or as a teacher,
can go to our website. So we have our Wildlife
Explorer's website which has curriculum on it. It has all
different activities for children and they can learn a.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Lot about that's wildlife Explorers the website. But also I
mean as a parent, I can say the camps are awesome.
My daughter's been through a couple of.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Times, and she's grown up in the zoo basically.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Because of where I wonder where its work.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
But because there's so many different activities involved in the
process of learning, you know, the arts and the crafts,
the exploring, the different things they have to do to
find out information, and it's always so age appropriate. So yeah,
then people can find out more information on that just
on the website, Sandy goozo dot org.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
But I'm so happy to hear it's coming back to
the fly Park next year. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Yeah, we are really excited. So it was just paused
during the construction of Elephant Valley. Yeah, and now we're
going to bring it back. It's going to be bigger
and better than ever.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
That's right, right, look at for Elephant Battle a little
later on next year, you know, sometime earlier next year.
So that's going to be really cool. But you said
something that like made me think. You said teacher programs.
It's really interesting because most people think of just kid
focused educational programs. Can you speak a little more about
what programs we offer for teachers because man, they need support.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Right definitely. As a former teacher, my heart has always been.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Teacher professionals development.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
So we have this amazing program over the summer where
teachers can come we call them teacher workshops. It's residential
and then they come on to site at the Conservation
Science Research Center and they get to learn about all
the different programs that we do, and our community engagement
team delivers those. They're learning how to deliver different labs
for their students. It's geared towards middle school and high
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school teachers, and the best thing about it is after
they go through all this training and they have this
great sense of community with their cohort.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
If they don't have the.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Materials in their school to deliver those labs, we send
it to them.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Nice we send it to them.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
We send it to them completely free, and the training
is completely free, and we even offset costs with a stipend.
It's the most amazing program that's just generously funded by
some donors and provides amazing professional development for teachers. And
we've had teachers not just from San Diego, but across
the country and even participants from across the world.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Rightly well, a big thank you for donors, because that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I love that program.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I'm actually going to be going to it's called the
Latin American Easy a Cup outside just a couple of weeks,
and I'm going to be speaking about this particular program
to help remind people of the support, because we all
got to do this together, right, I mean, that's why
have these eight conservation hubs around the world, over two
hundred collaborators, and like we said earlier, teachers really need support.
I was in Beckman a little bit ago watching one
of these school programs and something that I really love.
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There is a way for translating direct English interpretations in
different languages. So I saw kids that are Spanish speaking
natives learning what the teacher, our educators are showing through
this wonderful tech that we were offering too.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And the teachers are going in English and in Spanish.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
And for me growing up, I was one of the
few kids speaking Spanish and it was very difficult for
me learning in that way.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
So that's amazing that we.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Offer sources of teachers for students, real time education and translations.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So man, you guys are doing it all. You're killing
it out there.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
We are trying to be very inclusive and make sure
that all of our programs can reach all of the learners.
When people come for a field trip, we often don't
know what the student's needs are before they arrive. So
it's really important that that responsibility is on us, that
we can make our lessons accessible and we can make
every student successful and every student feel like a scientist.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
And so part of that is being.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Able to understand all of those really key vocabulary that
they're learning in their science lessons. So I'm so glad
you got to see it. We actually just started that
maybe six months ago, so yeah, that's I'm really glad
that you got to.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Why and they say, brightened up they were involved in
it because that was rough for me. I didn't want
to speak up as a kid. I was embarrassed not
being able to speak English. So it's me and my
heart smile. So thank you for that. That was really cool.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
The impact of that too.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Margo's talking about I want our audience to understand that
making these accommodations for those who can be completely participating
that way. It is, like you said, it's our responsibility
to meet these students where they are it's our responsibility
to meet the communities where they are, no matter where
they are. If we can have the tools to meet
them where they are, to bring them up in the
sense of understanding the need for conservation education, that's such
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a huge impact. Instead of tasking others to have to
struggle to meet us where we are, we can go
to them and offer that hand up as far as
the understanding and the comprehension, like you said, feeling a
part of it that way, empowering them that much more.
That leads me than to want to ask you too,
from your experience in your years, I mean you're taught
all over as a teacher now here in this organization,
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these amazing programs for you, what have you seen as
an impact? Like what is that warm fuzzy you get sometimes?
You know, because we all get them, we all get
choked up in that moment of oh my gosh, there
it is. There's the impact.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
What is that for you?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Yeah, I would say that, I mean it happens often.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
I'm sure there's so many different ways that it can happen.
But especially when you see young adults come back and
they come back and they share stories, they share how
something like Conservation Corps or other teen programs have helped
them pick a career path. It's helped them find a
sense of community, and that is amazing. We have a
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staff member in our education department that came through camp
and zoo Core. I was at a teacher symposium at
on Zabrago Desert State Park recently and the ranger who
was doing our interpretation came through zoo Core.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
And so you make networks in the community and you
talk to people and you realize how many lives have
been impacted by some of these programs.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
And a lot of these programs are not big.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
You know, maybe only twenty or twenty five students at
a time are going through them, and there are a
lot of hours and they spend a lot of time
with us. But that's how we can create really meaningful
change is by having these relationships.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Absolutely, I want to ask more about Zoocre because it's
funny you mentioned that the person you you know.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Have gone through it now you see them as an adult.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I was a wildlifere specialist in the children's who eons ago.
When I first started, I met a young boy I
think he was probably for seven other time and they
didn't even live in San Diego, but they were here
all the time, he and his mom, And long story short,
he waited till he was whold enough. He did Zucor.
His mom would drive him all the way down for
Orange County to be a part of Zucorp. He crushed
it in Zucor. He went to college for zoology and
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now he's the keeper at the Fresno Zoo.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
And so that's the level of impact programs like this have,
is that it's that inspiration that then lights that fire.
So tell me a little bit tell our audience I
say a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
About zuok Coorp. It's one thing we haven't mentioned yet.
I'd love for you to expand on that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Zoopor is a program.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
It's another teen program that we have and actually right
now we're redesigning it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah, So it's paused and what we're going to be
doing is we are going to work with teens and
we are.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Going to co design it.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Oh wow.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Yes, so we want to relaunch it and we want
to make sure that it's everything that teens.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Are looking for. So yeah, so we're right in the process. Again.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
We just secured some very generous funding to allow us
to do this so that we can reimagine it and
make sure it's meeting all the needs of teens. As
you know, things change and evolving needs. So that's where
we are with Zooko right now. But that is another
weekend program where students self select to spend a lot
of time with us and we get just full saturdays
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with them and we can do all sorts of things,
so we can do career exploration, leadership development, professional skill development,
and they can try on different hats for different positions
around the organization. And so I think it's really important
too that for young people that are very passionate about
wildlife or nature, they realize there are more jobs than
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just a wildlife care specialist, right, there are so many
different opportunities, and that we can take that love for
wildlife and nature.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Into almost old different professions.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
So we really like to also give that career exploration
opportunity and a lot of our older.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Programs, right, that's amazing. I'm actually part of what's called
Plane to See program. It's under the culture and belonging
our DEIA initiatives here in the Alliance. The similar concept
too is we want different communities, people of color, unsupported communities,
possibly depending where we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Intercity communities, specifically.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Around the zoo and also in the Safari Park because
I grew up in Escondido, Escondido High kids coming up.
But just show exactly that that wildlife care I mean
where the lines is like a big city.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
So everything from like if you're into PR, public relations,
social media, are into cameras video.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
And that was like my latest way of describing how
awesome you guys work. It's behind the cameras. But but
but the point is, right, Yeah, you can apply what
you're good at.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
You know, for instance, my husband is great with technology,
he's working for the Alliance. But to that point, all
kinds of people, all different backgrounds, apply what you love
and you can be part of something big or something
that kind of impacts the world in.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
A good way. Right. So that's awesome. I love that.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I love that the redesign of Zucorp is now including
teams inputs. So again that takes that concept to meet
them where they are so we can have the biggest impact.
Stead of asking them to meet us where we are,
we can take our stuff to them.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
That is so amazing. I absolutely love that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
That's inspiring.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
It makes me think of where we're at now, like
Wildlife Explorers based and some of the designers working with
child psychologists to really learn how kids grow and process information.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
And the key is sounds silly, but just to listen, right,
to listen to what the needs are of the youth
of these communities.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So that's that's awesome. Friend. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I actually have a side question because I'm always curious
about this one that I asked, and it might throw
your out.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
At the loop, friend, but I am furious. What You're
ready for this?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
What is your favorite animal or plant of all the time?
You know, I say plant also because organisms because maybe
it's something different. So of everything out there, what's your favorite?
I know, rickron right crusted for me.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
What's it for you?
Speaker 6 (21:46):
So I am going to have to pick something that's
not actually.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Here that's for you.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
That's fine.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I love Newdi branks.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
So sea slugs we got called out rich. I love
sea slugs and I'm a big tide pooler. And here
in San Diego you can see so many different types
of moody branks in our tide pools, and so I
think one of my favorites is the Hopkins Rose right,
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pink bubblegum pink sea slug. I encourage you to look
it up if you're listening and you don't know, So
we want everyone.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
To look at the hops What is it?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Hopkins Ross I'm going to go, I know.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
But also reminded why San Diego is so great, right,
I mean not only our conservation parks right this at
Fari Parks San Diego, so you put all the wildlife
around San Diego. I mean it is one of our
conservation hubs right over the biodiversity here. Thank you for
answering that. That's really cool and I feel like I
know you a little better.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well with that.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Before we wrap up, I do want to ask is
there anything that you would like to share with the
audience about your work or education for wildlife and conservation
that we haven't touched on yet.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Oh that's a great question.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
I guess the biggest takeaway I would have is just
that whether you're a parent listening or you're a young
person a teacher, just fostering that sense of empathy and
feeling connected to nature, it can happen anywhere, and it
happens by slowing.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Down and really looking right.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Asking questions, feeling that sense of inquiry and curiosity. Whether
you're just going for a walk in your neighborhood, maybe
you're walking your dog. Look, look in the flowers, see
what's happening, See if you see any insects. And the
more we feel connected to nature, the stronger we will
be as a community.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Thank you so much. I really appreciate you taking the
time to meet with listeners.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Thank you. I really appreciate you inviting me.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Excellent.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I love that. That was great.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I love the recommendation just being calm and looking around
because I just keep talking about that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Just take a moment instead of running around like I
always am, you know.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Take a month, look up, look at a bird, look
at a tree, look at a butterfly.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, and that's one thing too.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I always hope people when they come to the zoo,
it is like, make sure you slow down and look
in the habitats for a while, because the animal might
be looking like it's sleeping, but it might get up
in two minutes.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You'll take your time.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
But she's right.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It also applies to when we're outside I love the
term she used pocket park.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
You know, small urban areas, right, Yeah, yeah, those are
the places or.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Even like you know, on your balcony or a patio,
a potted plant might have a caterpillar in it, or
something curious to watch it, watching a spider make its web,
any of that stuff, and then growing that empathy and
having that curiosity.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It's so so important.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh man, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Someone's good work that they're doing too, and it reminds
me see the benefits of being in a zoo, right,
whether it be supporting park or the San Diego is
not just for wildlife care and plants, you know, conservation,
which is very important, but building up community, supporting community
and empowering community.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And like she said, if you're not in the San
Diego area, check out your local zoo. Check out your
local you know, maybe you're living near the ocean and
there's some sort of aquarium you can check out, or
any of those areas where there's a chance, even if
it's just a a nature park to take a hike
through a hundred there's usually some sort of literature or
things you can look up.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
And now with our phones, you can take a picture
and go what is this? I know you can learn
more that way as well.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
So there's always an opportunity to get more in touch
with nature and follow that curiosity.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
And I couldn't set a better mess up on me
going that article, right, it's going to be in May, yes, major, Yeah,
So everyone keeping out for that.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
We've been doing so much this year so far, it's
been really really cool. But I think we have another
little extra thing we're going to offer for the next episode.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Right, We're going to change it up a little.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Bit, a little bit in the sense that really like
the future and talking a little more about the future.
But it's kind of leaning in the fact, like you mentioned,
this year twenty twenty five, we've talked about it for
it is the fiftieth anniversary of the Frozen it is
it is. We happen to have somebody available we can
talk to that's been there as an intern from the
beginning and is now the curator.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Of the Frozen Zoo.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Not only can we talk a little bit about the history,
but also a lot about where it's going.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I know, I'm excited, man, it's going to be about
women in science, see the future. What's happening so I
get it's going to be great, all right, and we're
going to go to this safari park, which you know
always makes me very very happy.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, be sure to join.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Us and subscribe if you haven't already, to make sure
you catch what's going on in the future at the
Frozen Zoo.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
All Marcolet and I'm Rick Schwartz.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Thanks for listening or watching.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
For more information about the San Diego Zoo and San
Diego Zoo Safari Park, go to SDZWA dot org. Amazing
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