December 27, 2018 • 29 mins
He's one of the world's foremost experts in treating chronic pain and fatigue. In this interview, Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum shares his wealth of knowledge gathered from over 30 years of practice, and offers nutritional advice and home remedies that everyone can use to sleep better. Plus, the one kind of sugar that's actually good for your heart.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have a bad habit. I read the medical literature
for fun. It's not unusual for me to go through
a hundred studies a day, and I recognized that the
conclusion of a study tells me who paid for the study.
You have to know how to rip the data a
part to see what it chose. And I'm merciless. I
will call the authors and I will say, what's the
data on this that's missing in your report? Because it's
obvious that something was left out. It didn't fit what
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the company wanted to say. And you get these responses
that are, oh, you got lost everything, but the dog
ate it everyone. I'm Dr Oz and this is the
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Doctor OS podcast. I've got a good friend coming back
on the show, Dr Jacob Tattlebum, who's done a wonderful
word helping Americans understand a bit more by pain management.
And we stuck a lot about my alogy and credit
Fati syndrome with Jacob because it opens up a large topic,
which is how you treat byromalogy. And we're gonna have
chronic pain treatments as well. So if you could just
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walk us through the shin treatment first, s h I
N what it stands for you know sleep, hormone support, infections,
and nutritional support, but in some detail. And then I
want to walk into Bribbos, which is the last of
those four topics. Now, as you start getting better with
the disease, the checklist for getting well as you noted
as S H I M S stands for sleep. It's
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critical to get eight hours of solid sleeping at night.
If you go back a hundred years ago, the average
night sleep in the United States is nine hours a night.
Are now down to about six and three quarters hours.
And that's just not enough to recharge your batteries to
get the hormonal support you need. UM. And the problem
is the sleep center is not working, so you can't sleep.
So I like to use a mix of natural and
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prescription therapies. UM. Natural remedies such as something and is
outstanding for sleep UH suntanthy five in TUH it's very
good to put a spell it s u n and
then thinning th h e A n I n e. UM.
You also want can use wild lettuce you're making dogwood.
Any college students will play hops. It's not only the
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alcohol in the beer. UM Valerian passion flower. All six
of these can be found it's an excellent product called
the Revitalizing Sleep Formula by Enzymatic Therapy. Most healthful stores
will have it. UM a very nice way to get
all six together melotonin, but only one half milligram standard
dosing is too high. Calcium and magnesium at bedtime, taking
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a hot bath before bedtime, and it's important to keep
the bedroom cool because temps regulation doesn't work, and you
want to have a hot bedroom, but it keeps it
from sleeping deeply. UM. And then it is really appropriate
to use medications for sleep here as well. Ambient has
it on clonopin UH. They're over twenty five natural and
prescription therapies that we use. If people want to go
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on my website as Vitality one on one dot com
and click on treatment protocol, it'll have a list of
all the treatments we're gonna talk about today, so people
don't have to scribble frantically. But many sleep medications make
the problem worse. Things in the Valiant family actually keep
you in light sleep and are problematic. So I'm very
picky about what's natural and prescription remedies I'll use, But
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you need to take a mix to get your eight
to nine hours sleep at night, and I know most
of you out there at Fiber are saying you're insane.
There's no I'm gonna be able to sleep eight hours
a night. With this mix, you will be able to do.
You worry about having to keep folks on medications every
day for the rest of their life or the folks
of Fiber when they get through the acute crisis begin
to be able to sleep normally again. What I study
showed was that once you restore energy production and hypothalamic
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function based on once you turned the circuit Baker back down,
at the two year follow up, people are continuing to
get better and better despite having been able to come
off of almost all the treatments long term. I want
people to take nutritional support with a vitamin powder, but
many of the other treatments, most of them can be
withdrawn within the two year period. Got it Okay, So
that's the sleep part. Big issue. Next one, Hormones are
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major biggie um. Pretty much every but with this disease
needs a trial of bioidonaical thyroid hormone, either armor thyroid
or made by a compounding pharmacist. The blood tests are
horribly unreliable and will miss the vast majority of people
who need thyroid, adrenal and estrogen support. Uh. I don't know.
Explain it to me for a second, because I have
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this debate all the time with my colleagues. Folks will say, well,
you know, uh, the thyroid levels are within normal, and
we actually know check thyroid stimulating hormone, which is the
hormone that actually wraps it up. So if that number
is is too high, it means that you're overworking. Your
hypothalamus is overworking in order to stimulate thyroid function. And
some experts will tell me, and I actually tend to
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believe this that if you're low normal, it may not
be good enough. But are you saying, even if your
novels are completely normal, you can't trust them? Correct? Um?
Understand where the normal range has come from? Promotes tests? Uh.
In med school, I was given the impression that world's
experts got together instead of it's in the strange, it's
not a problem. But it's no such thing. It's what's
called two standard deviations. They take a hundred samples or
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senting for that test, measure them. The highest and lowest
two and a half are defined as abnormal, and then
in the middle are defined us a normal range. That's it.
So let's say give an example of shoe sizes. I said,
I want a normal range for shoe sizes. I sit
in the mall, Take the next hundred people that came by,
including children, and I'd get a normal range. Who say
three to thirteen? Um, and say, you and I got
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our sheets mixed up at he said, we went to
Hawaiian party, excell in Hawaiian and leave the shoes at
the door. We got a mixed up as we got
the door and I'm walking out to the size six
and you're wearing my size twelve. You go to the
shoe doctor and you say these shoes are too big.
They keep falling off, and he said that way. Um.
And then he'd go ahead and measure it and he'd say, no, money,
it's the size Twalvet's in the normal range. There's no
problem with your shoe. And I'd say I can't get
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my foot in the thing. And he'd said, maybe it's small.
You know, I check it and say no, Jacob, he
knows it's always Honey for the woman and Jacob for
the guy. Um, He's say it's it's a size six's
in the normal range, there's no problem with the shoe.
And I say, I can don't get my tone today anything,
and he say the test is normal, there's nothing wrong
with his shoes. And that's pretty much an exact analyzy
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of what's going on now for T S A S.
They say that there is a panel of experts, but
they're not even listening to them. The experts have said
it has to be under three, and they still use
five point five. But with hypothalamic this function, the T
S A s is are totally um inaccurate test and
the offensive gnther Nick, who's the world's expert on hypothalamic
throid access function, I asked ms T S H reliable
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when I was lecturing in Italy in five or miles
it's a absolutely not mhm. So you you don't Is
there any point they even checked them? Yes, because again,
if I check the shoe size and the guy in
the size four, even though it's in the normal range,
I know it sounds like it's kind of on the
low end, and I want to make sure that you
don't have an overactive thyroid triggering the disease, So you
want to check the free T four as a key test.
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But the main way that you tell is if you're tired,
a key weight gain, cold, and tolerant grain fog. These
are symptoms of low thyroid. If you have two or
three of those, deserve a trial of thoroid hormone regardless
of what the blood test shows. And it has to
have the active T three hormone such as armor thyroid
or compound of thyroid um and you need to adjust
it to the optimal dose. Most doctors, even if your
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third is low, We'll just put you in the normal range,
so I'll get the into size. We'll show you're fine. Okay.
So there's the same whole truth for d H A
and just again for the listeners. D H is the
first step of the of the many sex hormones. Estrogen's
ststone and like that your body would make and it's
it's a it's a hormone that is hotly debated in
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Western medical circles because most of us can correlate the
use of the drug in folks who have normal levels
with clear reproducible improvements. But I'm gonna I'm guessing that
you're gonna tell me that the level is not as
important as it's just treating these symptoms. Well. Unfortunately with
the h t A, it's we know that it's an
important hormone, we don't know what it does and the
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only real symptoms will see if it's being low, it
would be the increase in hair growth. Uh. Now you'll
see fatigue and other things, but you don't know if
it's from that or other things. So I do check
at d h A sulfate level, not at d h A.
D h A fluctuates too much during the day to
be helpful, and I do try to keep it at
about a hundred fifty for women in about four fifty
for men. So that's the one where I will use
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the test. But as any hormone, you adjusted to the
dose that feels the best while keeping the blood tests
in the normal range. But an interesting mother hormon is
pregnant alone. Were you were there with with with d
h A sulfate just thrown clear on this. If the
level is normal, would you still treat the patient with
d h A if it's in the normal The normal
range is ludicrous and meaningless unless you're prepared to be
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in the lowest three percent of the population and be normal.
An income of eighty one a year is medically normal. UM,
so until the doctor is willing to live on that is,
there were everyone out there here in this because I'm
gonna makeure the producers recognize any one hundred dollars is
normal for you guys medically. Medically, of course, the medical
normals are absurd. So what if it's high normal, What
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if it's a hundred thousand dollars equivalent? If it's high normal,
I'm gonna look for a polycystic overy syndrome, especially if
testosterone is high. And at that point you'll see in
fertility it's not hard to treat UM. Adrenal support will
help out. Treating the insulin resistance will help out. Uh.
Special birth control pills can help that UM. But the
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once you bring that down, they're gonna help. Polycystic overy
syndrome is one of many triggers for CFS and fibro.
High testosterone high d h A. I'm gonna be looking
for that, got it? Okay, So you're talking about pregnan
alone now. Now, pregnant alone is the mother hormone just
after cholesterol, which is the ultimate mother hormone for these things.
And we're finding more and more that most people I'm
seeing with CFS and fibro have a low pregnant alone.
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The blockade in hormone production seems to begin even at
the level of cholesterol m hmm. But does a clesteral
level then go up because you're unable to make the
pregnant alone that you that you need. Most people tend
to be on the low side because their liver function
is low. Energy is low on the liver. Liver doesn't
make chlester all as well. Other people are high because
the thyroid is low, so cholesterol can be all over
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the place and people. Does do cholesterol lowering drugs have
an impact? Yes, very good, you know more of the
most octaves ready um. Cholesterol lowering drugs in the Staton
family are a potent trigger for fiber my ouncer because
they deplete something called coenzyme Q ten and they can
trigger muscle pain. Unless my back is against the wall,
I will not use the statens in people with fiber
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miles and CFS. Instead, I'll use berbering in nostril hex
and and eate oats, exercise and optimizing thyroid function, and
that is usually enough to bring down the cholesteral to
under two hundred. Do you always give coaching ten to
your fiber MILT patients. No, it's a little bit pricey. Uh.
If if cost is not an issue, sure, but if
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they're on statons anybody on Movicore family medications, I recommend
a form called vital Line because brown is important. I'm
very picky about brands because quality control in the health
food industry is horrible. So I like to use a
vital line. Coenzyme Q ten two hundred milligrams a day.
Very helpful. We're only just scratching the service here. We've
got a whole lot more to discuss after the break,
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all right, so it can walk me through again. So we
we we're done with the S and the H. Now
into immune I would be infections and immunity. Uh. This
is an immune suppressed illness, or sometimes immune systems overactive
and something then burns out and becomes underactive. Yeast overgrowth,
although controversial in medicine, is a major problem. We know
that it occurs and aids, and we know clinically, even
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though there's no specific tests for it, that incurres in
cyfs if you have chronic sinus sidus and nasal congestion,
or if you have spastic colon, gas, floating, diarrhea, or constipation.
In most cases, this is the yeast or fungal or
candid or whatever name you want to use over growth,
and it needs to be treated with six weeks of
diplucan at two milligrams a day. You need to avoid sugar,
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except for chocolate, which I think is a healthy food,
so I tell people to leave out in built real chocolate,
dark chocolate as the best at that point going The
Sigar fry chocolate. Skadiva has a great line wrestle stover
has a great line um, and you need to take probiotics.
I like acid off less pearls because they keep the
healthy back here from being killed in the stomach. Acid
as they go through two twice a day for five months,
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great food, seed extract um. There's many natural things, but
I'd like to use the medication die luke Can for
six weeks and people find that they're sinus otis will
go away with that treatment for the first time in years,
because sinus otus is a fungal problem with only his
secondary back tire all overgrowth. Ever, use the nitty pots
for sinus infections. Absolutely, nutty pots they're wonderful for those
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who can handle them. You poured in one side of
your nose and it goes out the other. But for
most Americans, they kind of go when they think about it.
So I just tell him to take an eye dropper
and take a salt water solution quarter teaspoon of salt,
a couple of lukewarm water, lay on the bed for
the night dropper or two of it, and it's now
soil blowing nose in the towl a couple of times,
blow gently so you don't hurt your ears. Also, there's
a wonderful sin a side of snow spray that's a
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mix of antibacterial doctor band uh an antifungal, zolotl, and
a little bit of Backla metho zone, which is outstanding compounding.
Pharmacists can make it like I T. C. Pharmacy Um,
but any of the numbers we just called the son
aside snow spray. It's outstanding for knocking out the sinusidus.
And you don't get all the side effects of the antibiotics.
You know, I gotta say you're encyclopedic inside. I mean,
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I have to remember remembering the name over the over
the counter medication. You're going into the details of the
bacamethazine one point point percent. Well, that's why I saw
on the website it's Vitality one on one dot com.
People click on treatment protocol every treatment we're going to
talk about the full directions for use and how to
find them. It's all there. But did you just actually
but how you actually you know what you have? You
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always had an impressive memory for these levels double details.
I yes, so I was class geek. You know. Oh
my goodness, before after you're homeless, uh, even before I
have a bad habit. I read the medical literature for fund.
It's not unusual for me to go through a hundred
studies a day, and I recognized that the conclusion of
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a study tells me who paid for the study. You
have to know how to rip the data a part
to see what it chose, and I'm merciless. I will
call the authors and I will say, what's the data
on this that's missing in your report? Because it's obvious
that something was left out because it didn't fit what
they there the company wanted to say. And you get
these responses that are, oh he got lost everything, but
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the dog ate it. So it's I've been doing this
for thirty years now. And um, I remember I had
an old friend of mine who could always go right
to the heart of the problem. He's a psychiatrist, And
I said, how do you go right to it? He
just looked at me and said, I've been doing this
for fifty years. Yeah, he's got twenty years on me. Yeah.
We're talking about ribos, something that I hear about all
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the time from my father in law. So to teach
us a little bit about why taking a sugar can
be good for us, Well, most sugars are harmful because
we got a hund Ford fifty pounds per person per year,
additur diet. It's eight percent of calories and it's it's nasty. Um.
So that's why I tell people to avoid sugar. But
the universe has a sense of humor. I mean there's
a certain irony that comes with having told people avoid sugar.
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And now I'm finding a specific sugar called dry boats
that your body uses. That's the foundation of energy production. Uh.
If you look at the molecules like a t P,
which are the kind of like the dollars the paper
that the dollar goals for energy are printed on UM.
They're the backbone of energy production. That these molecules are
made mostly of the vitamins at an enoch you have
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plenty of and dry boas. And what you're finding is
that an energy to petid states, especially heart disease. Now,
your father in law, that is a very wise man
if he knows about this, because the many heart problems
are associated with the loss of energy production in the heart,
just like you see in chronic fatigue syndrome and fibro
mi aaltra, and the heart muscle, just like all the
other muscles, are then struggling to go ahead and function
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and they become they basically go on a down hill
spiral as they try to keep up. UM. We found
the dry boas supplied the backbone for energy production UM.
And we were hoping and a study we did a
study in CFS and five of miles or we're hoping
to see maybe a ten percent increase in energy, because
that's a lot for a single nutrient. We saw average
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increase in energy after only three weeks in the in
the people who took dry boss just basically not their
socks off in people with heart disease, and I talked
to doctor after doctor after doctor. I hear words like
it's a miracle, this is outstanding, amazing. You don't see
that with too many treatments. UM. Frankly, anybody that I
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have with heart disease. We have one person in the
study with at re fibrillation. You have normal heart of them.
By the end of the study it had gone away
and he was able to come off and say off
as medications. Um. Because as you restore energy efficiency in
the heart, you get less angela because of worse more efficiently.
It is amazing for diaestolic and justive heart failure where
people get shortness of breath and go swelling and get
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shorter breath laying flat um abnormal heart rhythms will tend
to decrease. I like to add certainly magnesium. Let's see
little car and the Tina coinsime Q ten to that mix.
The dry boats is amazing for heart disease, amazing for
chronic fatigue syndrome. But the proper dose is critical UM
five grams, which would be one scoop and many containers
three times a day for two weeks to three weeks,
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and then you can just take it morning at night.
So it's actually fifteen grams a day, taking five grams
several times a day in the beginning, but after three
weeks you can drop it down to to five grams
twice a day ten grams a day. Side effects. The
only side effects we saw were the two people got
to energize and fell hyper so in one one just
lowered the dose and the alone get scared because they
felt to energize and sound stopped that. The one who
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lower the dose was fine. Just take it with food.
If that happens, you take every morning I put I
have a vitamin powder that I use because the three
places thirty five tablets of supplements. I just take that
instead of handfuls of stuff, and I throw scooper rybos
into that, and I take my morning drink and I'm
good to go. Do you put it in water? Juice?
You can put in the water, juice, milk, coffee, tea, food,
you can put it. It looks and tastes like sugar,
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and its heats table You can put in anything you want.
Does it have calories that it's not. It's the funny
thing is it's not metabolized. First of all, it only
has twenty calories anyway in the five grams um but
it's not metabolized as a sugar, so it doesn't cause
anyway game you start taking some, Lisa, I've been taking
it for years, of course not. My dad does give
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it to My father is a cardiox surgion also and
he gives it to his patients. Yeah, because there's a
study going on now, I guess I can talk about
it to where they have about a hundred sixty people
that have gone through so far having bypass are the
ones who are pre treated with rivals. There's been no
deaths in the entire series Columbia. Better watch out. Maybe
I'm doing the study speaking to study. It's just is
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it really available? I mean, I would use it in
any hard patients out there at the drop of a hat.
It's just it's probably gonna be the most important nutrients
discovery of this decade, the ribos. It's outstanding, it's fun
and in the In addition to the supplements, there are
also some food advice that you give the folks of fibermalogic.
Just walk us through those real quick. And you want
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to increase water intake. Now people are gonna say, I'm
already drinking like a fish. And just say yes, but
you're being like a race horse. And because the anti
diuretic or water retaining hormone is also low. And people
say how many glasses of water should I drink a day?
And you know, I can't imagine. You know, I picked her.
There's this little place in a corner of Haiti somewhere
where they put people and say you have to count
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classes of water fraternity. I mean, it's a horrible way
to live your life. So don't do that. Just check
your mouth and check your lips. If your mouth and
lips dry or thirsty, drink more water. Get a good
quality water. Doesn't have to be expensive distilled water. It's
okay if you're taking the vitamin powders because they have
the minerals in out. Otherwise you need the mineral, so
be in the water. UM, but basically drink enough so
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that you're not so that your mouth and lips and moist. Also,
we mentioned avoiding sugar except for chocolate and ribos I
guess I'll throw that in um. And also you most
people find that they feel better with a high protein
and low carbohydrate diet, but everybody is different. You want
to eat what leads you're feeling the best. It's not
always what you crave, but check into three hours after
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you ah, you'll see how you feel. The other thing
is increase your salt and take unless you have high
blood pressure. Most of you out there have low blood
pressure with this disease. More salt is critical because the
adrenal is not working properly. The way you can tell
you need adrenal support, you get an irritable one hunger.
If it's like a light switch goes off and your
spouse knows they have three menutas to feed you or
you will kill them, you need adrenal support. All Right,
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we have a lot more to talk about, but first
let's take a quick break. We were doctor Jacob title well,
I'm talking about a fire, maalogy, let switch gears, talking
about pain for for a little bit. And these are
chronic pain conditions that so many of us are afflicted
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by until frequently when we are seen by friends or
patients who have these elements, we throw a few medications
at them to deal with the acute crisis, but often
don't deal with the underlying issue. And you highlight quite
nicely in the book that that pain is a symptom
that you shouldn't ignore. I mean, you don't want to
have it as your wake up call, but it is
a wake up call get you thinking about something you're doing,
whether it's repetitive injury from some act or or or
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basic rehab needs that you may have in your life.
So let's start with back pain. Well, let's take a look.
As you mentioned that pain as a warning. Pain is
not the enemy, and I want to know CFS and
five miles or not the enemy either like blowing a
few what CFS connec fatigue syndrome like blowing a fuse.
They protect your body and in fact I just want
to mention some one thing before I go to pain. Um.
Chronic fatigue syndrome is not the enemy. It is an
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opportunity to get your life back. Most people who get
it are in people who have been doing what they
think they should do instead of what their souls or
psyche are really asking them to do. And it pulls
her out of the game long enough to get a
sense of what feels good to you so I can
get you better. The five Miles and Fatigue centers can
go to a website www. Dot fiber and fatigue dot Com.
Their doctors know how to get you well. They're all
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over the country. But the key thing is, once you
get better, if you go back to a life you hate,
I've done nothing for you and you're gonna get sick again,
maybe in a different way. So you need to check
in with what feels good to you, not what you
think you should do. If you follow that, the illness
will give your life back. Now. Pain is also not
the enemy. If you have your hot your hand on
a hot stove, you want to know before you smell burning,
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flush out what pain is for. It's the oil light
on your dashboard that says something needs attention. Now. When
that dread flashing light goes off. Uh, you know, you
take you go to the doctor and you say this
lights annoying me. Says no problem. He puts a band
aid over it, and he says all better. Uh, And
then you wonder why the motor burns out later while
you get sixteen thousand, five hundred deaths a year from
end says in the United States inflammatory disease. We have
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medications that are the standard, our dratis medications. Uh, you know,
the over sixteen thousand deaths, and they're unnecessary because the
natural remedies are more effective and very safe. So let's
start with back paint. Uh. The studies show that if
you use woola bark and proper dosing is twice as
effective as these arthorotist type of medications that are normally
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used for back pain. Also, if you have disc pain,
you don't need surgery. There's an old herbal remedy turn
prescription called colchis um and there's studies of over six
thousand patients. Now the show that if you give one
little grammage venously a week for six weeks, that knocks
out disc pain and over seventy cases and if you
have magnesium and B vitamins to the ivy um. Let
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me put it this way. As a pain specialist, I've
sent one person for disk surgery for pain in the
last twenty years. He had to go to Hopkins for
multi level specialty surgery. All the rest of them have
had the pain go away with the ivy culturism once
a week for six weeks. Easy. There's a big problem
though it's cheap six dollars or those Why what does
cultures seen do. Coulture, by the way, is a drug
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that we come and the use for gout and elements
of that nature. What does culture do that that taste
your back pain? Well, it's technically called the mitotic spindle
and heavy YadA, YadA YadA. But what it means is
that it gets into the disk space. It's an anti inflammatory.
It's not the pressure on the nerve from the disk
that causes of pain. It's the inflammation from the gel
and the discs is inflammatory and it puts out that fire.
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Mhm m. It's remarkable. And that's that's a wonderful thing.
You don't need surgery for that. You don't need searchery
for carpal tunnel syndrome. What do you do for a
couple of tunnels? In? Vitamin B six milligrams a day,
a ris splint that keeps your hand in a neutral
position at night that you're holding a glass of water
kind of neutral um. And I used a little bit
of thyroid and within six weeks, because I've had one
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person who had continuing repetitive stress entry who needed surgery.
But thus said, and every other patient has gone away
within about six or twelve weeks. Now hy B six
and not the full of gacid of B twelve any
the other uh, methyleating agents basics and thyroid both have
the effect of decreasing swelling in the tissues. UM and
carpal tunnel is when they're swelling their pincils on a
nerve going through the risk it decreases swelling, the problem
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goes away headaches. So you had the encyclopedia here just
keep going headaches, well, migraine headache UM as as funny
as one of one of the major national networks doing
going on the right before me, they had a thing,
I'm taking out major parts of the face muscles to
decrease migraines. And when I went on, I wanted to say, look,
studies show that vitamin B two robber flavan at four
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milligrams at ten cents a day decreases it by but
it's attacking to dis A person on right before you
is how to bite my tongue. I'm not good at that,
but I had to do it anyway. UM. But basically
from migraine headaches, vitamin B to magnesium B vitamins in
general are very good. Pedadolex, which is an herb called
butter ber, also very very effective as both treating and
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preventing migraines, treating food allergies. It will be a very
important part of eliminating migraines in many studies. Migraines are
very easy to prevent osteoprocess. I hate they go through
this so quickly, but let's do it. There's two thumbnails. Uh,
Strontium is a hundred seventy as effective as the standard
Osteo process medications, but much safer and much cheaper um
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in my book and the Pain if we want to three.
I talked about sixty milligrams today, but I'm thinking a
hundred seventy milligrams today for most people's plenty. Okay. And
I must say, and this is an issue that I'm
doing with my own family because my mother has bones
that are brittle, although she was a big bone woman
her whole life. Have to take the vitamin powder. Uh.
They can go on my website, can find it. But
any healthful story will have it. That we talked about earlier.
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It's gonna have many nutrients like born magnesium, other things
that are critical good. There's many many nutrients. Calcium is
actually a small player, but take the calcium if you
have osteo process. I got the strontium. How about I
mean K two Vitamin K two is not as important.
It's important for building bone, but the study show Julie
doesn't play that big of a role and preventing factors.
So at least I told you born was important. You're
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always right, honey, God, where do you find her? Don
take your dead? O. Mom, Thank you so much for
being so precise in your recommendations and so comprehensively you
thought your Your philosophy towards healing is one that I
want a lot of the listeners to at least be
aware of. I appreciate the work you've put into into
the field. Again, pain Free one to three and from
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Fatigue to Fantastic are wonderful treatises, UH, books that I
think actually can be helpful to folks, because so often
we rely on conventional medical dogma to lead you down
the garden path. And you know, if you've got a
gunshot to the chest, I do think I'm the right
person to help you because I know how to put
the right kind of rolling in the whole the question
of bleeding that the anilments we've been speaking about today
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contracing critique syndrome, which wasn't even acknowledged to be really
a disease from by by many physicians until recently and
even today, by the way, I think there are many
of who still believe that it's not really an ailment
that has definable characteristics that can be treated, uh things
like back pain afflis a majority of the population is
import in their life. Again, I agree to the whole
hardly with your belief that that we shouldn't be taking
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these folks off the surgery. Most of studies show that
as well. But let me I said one big question
at the end. We've been talking a lot about nutritional
supplements and food issues, but there are other therapies there
probably needed parts of easy questions you mentioned for both
corporal tunnel in for back pain, the rehab probably has
an element. You did mention the risk for the for
the splint, what do you put on how do you
how do you put your your emphasis on those issues
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for the rehab issues. If you're gonna go with the
physical therapist, ask for one who knows the technique called
spray and stretch by Dr Janet Travel. If they know
that technique, they're probably really good. But many physical therapists
think that if a muscle is short and you should
pull on it, and all that does is hurt the muscle,
and the muscle pull right back wherever the stretch and
spray there's no pain. You can release the muscle in
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ten seconds very easily. How does it work. Um, Basically,
it's a it's a cold spray that blocks the pain
reflects for about thirty seconds. During that time, you can
stretch it back to its normal length and no problem
at all, and it's done. It's it's a remarkable thing
when people see it. I've knocked out chronic headaches that
people have had for decades with the thirty seconds sperience stretch.
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Because again, if you try to pull on muscle, it
just pulls back, hurts. But if you block the pain
thirty seconds, it all takes you release the muscle is done.
But you also have to treat the underlying energy problem
in the muscle by treating sleep, hormone affection nutrition. You
do that combination, then you get long lasting relief. Otherwise
you go to chiropractor for and you feel better for
about three hours, but the muscle goes back in the
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shortened position. You're going forever. You treat the underlying problems
metabolically with the sleep hormones, infection, nutrition, I know, I
say it over and over. Then when the chiropractic release
is done, it will stay released after a couple of
treatments that TAT and thank you very very much for
joining us.
I have a bad habit. I read the medical literature
for fun. It's not unusual for me to go through
a hundred studies a day, and I recognized that the
conclusion of a study tells me who paid for the study.
You have to know how to rip the data a
part to see what it chose. And I'm merciless. I
will call the authors and I will say, what's the
data on this that's missing in your report? Because it's
obvious that something was left out. It didn't fit what
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the company wanted to say. And you get these responses
that are, oh, you got lost everything, but the dog
ate it everyone. I'm Dr Oz and this is the
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Doctor OS podcast. I've got a good friend coming back
on the show, Dr Jacob Tattlebum, who's done a wonderful
word helping Americans understand a bit more by pain management.
And we stuck a lot about my alogy and credit
Fati syndrome with Jacob because it opens up a large topic,
which is how you treat byromalogy. And we're gonna have
chronic pain treatments as well. So if you could just
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walk us through the shin treatment first, s h I
N what it stands for you know sleep, hormone support, infections,
and nutritional support, but in some detail. And then I
want to walk into Bribbos, which is the last of
those four topics. Now, as you start getting better with
the disease, the checklist for getting well as you noted
as S H I M S stands for sleep. It's
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critical to get eight hours of solid sleeping at night.
If you go back a hundred years ago, the average
night sleep in the United States is nine hours a night.
Are now down to about six and three quarters hours.
And that's just not enough to recharge your batteries to
get the hormonal support you need. UM. And the problem
is the sleep center is not working, so you can't sleep.
So I like to use a mix of natural and
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prescription therapies. UM. Natural remedies such as something and is
outstanding for sleep UH suntanthy five in TUH it's very
good to put a spell it s u n and
then thinning th h e A n I n e. UM.
You also want can use wild lettuce you're making dogwood.
Any college students will play hops. It's not only the
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alcohol in the beer. UM Valerian passion flower. All six
of these can be found it's an excellent product called
the Revitalizing Sleep Formula by Enzymatic Therapy. Most healthful stores
will have it. UM a very nice way to get
all six together melotonin, but only one half milligram standard
dosing is too high. Calcium and magnesium at bedtime, taking
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a hot bath before bedtime, and it's important to keep
the bedroom cool because temps regulation doesn't work, and you
want to have a hot bedroom, but it keeps it
from sleeping deeply. UM. And then it is really appropriate
to use medications for sleep here as well. Ambient has
it on clonopin UH. They're over twenty five natural and
prescription therapies that we use. If people want to go
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on my website as Vitality one on one dot com
and click on treatment protocol, it'll have a list of
all the treatments we're gonna talk about today, so people
don't have to scribble frantically. But many sleep medications make
the problem worse. Things in the Valiant family actually keep
you in light sleep and are problematic. So I'm very
picky about what's natural and prescription remedies I'll use, But
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you need to take a mix to get your eight
to nine hours sleep at night, and I know most
of you out there at Fiber are saying you're insane.
There's no I'm gonna be able to sleep eight hours
a night. With this mix, you will be able to do.
You worry about having to keep folks on medications every
day for the rest of their life or the folks
of Fiber when they get through the acute crisis begin
to be able to sleep normally again. What I study
showed was that once you restore energy production and hypothalamic
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function based on once you turned the circuit Baker back down,
at the two year follow up, people are continuing to
get better and better despite having been able to come
off of almost all the treatments long term. I want
people to take nutritional support with a vitamin powder, but
many of the other treatments, most of them can be
withdrawn within the two year period. Got it Okay, So
that's the sleep part. Big issue. Next one, Hormones are
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major biggie um. Pretty much every but with this disease
needs a trial of bioidonaical thyroid hormone, either armor thyroid
or made by a compounding pharmacist. The blood tests are
horribly unreliable and will miss the vast majority of people
who need thyroid, adrenal and estrogen support. Uh. I don't know.
Explain it to me for a second, because I have
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this debate all the time with my colleagues. Folks will say, well,
you know, uh, the thyroid levels are within normal, and
we actually know check thyroid stimulating hormone, which is the
hormone that actually wraps it up. So if that number
is is too high, it means that you're overworking. Your
hypothalamus is overworking in order to stimulate thyroid function. And
some experts will tell me, and I actually tend to
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believe this that if you're low normal, it may not
be good enough. But are you saying, even if your
novels are completely normal, you can't trust them? Correct? Um?
Understand where the normal range has come from? Promotes tests? Uh.
In med school, I was given the impression that world's
experts got together instead of it's in the strange, it's
not a problem. But it's no such thing. It's what's
called two standard deviations. They take a hundred samples or
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senting for that test, measure them. The highest and lowest
two and a half are defined as abnormal, and then
in the middle are defined us a normal range. That's it.
So let's say give an example of shoe sizes. I said,
I want a normal range for shoe sizes. I sit
in the mall, Take the next hundred people that came by,
including children, and I'd get a normal range. Who say
three to thirteen? Um, and say, you and I got
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our sheets mixed up at he said, we went to
Hawaiian party, excell in Hawaiian and leave the shoes at
the door. We got a mixed up as we got
the door and I'm walking out to the size six
and you're wearing my size twelve. You go to the
shoe doctor and you say these shoes are too big.
They keep falling off, and he said that way. Um.
And then he'd go ahead and measure it and he'd say, no, money,
it's the size Twalvet's in the normal range. There's no
problem with your shoe. And I'd say I can't get
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my foot in the thing. And he'd said, maybe it's small.
You know, I check it and say no, Jacob, he
knows it's always Honey for the woman and Jacob for
the guy. Um, He's say it's it's a size six's
in the normal range, there's no problem with the shoe.
And I say, I can don't get my tone today anything,
and he say the test is normal, there's nothing wrong
with his shoes. And that's pretty much an exact analyzy
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of what's going on now for T S A S.
They say that there is a panel of experts, but
they're not even listening to them. The experts have said
it has to be under three, and they still use
five point five. But with hypothalamic this function, the T
S A s is are totally um inaccurate test and
the offensive gnther Nick, who's the world's expert on hypothalamic
throid access function, I asked ms T S H reliable
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when I was lecturing in Italy in five or miles
it's a absolutely not mhm. So you you don't Is
there any point they even checked them? Yes, because again,
if I check the shoe size and the guy in
the size four, even though it's in the normal range,
I know it sounds like it's kind of on the
low end, and I want to make sure that you
don't have an overactive thyroid triggering the disease, So you
want to check the free T four as a key test.
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But the main way that you tell is if you're tired,
a key weight gain, cold, and tolerant grain fog. These
are symptoms of low thyroid. If you have two or
three of those, deserve a trial of thoroid hormone regardless
of what the blood test shows. And it has to
have the active T three hormone such as armor thyroid
or compound of thyroid um and you need to adjust
it to the optimal dose. Most doctors, even if your
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third is low, We'll just put you in the normal range,
so I'll get the into size. We'll show you're fine. Okay.
So there's the same whole truth for d H A
and just again for the listeners. D H is the
first step of the of the many sex hormones. Estrogen's
ststone and like that your body would make and it's
it's a it's a hormone that is hotly debated in
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Western medical circles because most of us can correlate the
use of the drug in folks who have normal levels
with clear reproducible improvements. But I'm gonna I'm guessing that
you're gonna tell me that the level is not as
important as it's just treating these symptoms. Well. Unfortunately with
the h t A, it's we know that it's an
important hormone, we don't know what it does and the
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only real symptoms will see if it's being low, it
would be the increase in hair growth. Uh. Now you'll
see fatigue and other things, but you don't know if
it's from that or other things. So I do check
at d h A sulfate level, not at d h A.
D h A fluctuates too much during the day to
be helpful, and I do try to keep it at
about a hundred fifty for women in about four fifty
for men. So that's the one where I will use
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the test. But as any hormone, you adjusted to the
dose that feels the best while keeping the blood tests
in the normal range. But an interesting mother hormon is
pregnant alone. Were you were there with with with d
h A sulfate just thrown clear on this. If the
level is normal, would you still treat the patient with
d h A if it's in the normal The normal
range is ludicrous and meaningless unless you're prepared to be
(08:38):
in the lowest three percent of the population and be normal.
An income of eighty one a year is medically normal. UM,
so until the doctor is willing to live on that is,
there were everyone out there here in this because I'm
gonna makeure the producers recognize any one hundred dollars is
normal for you guys medically. Medically, of course, the medical
normals are absurd. So what if it's high normal, What
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if it's a hundred thousand dollars equivalent? If it's high normal,
I'm gonna look for a polycystic overy syndrome, especially if
testosterone is high. And at that point you'll see in
fertility it's not hard to treat UM. Adrenal support will
help out. Treating the insulin resistance will help out. Uh.
Special birth control pills can help that UM. But the
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once you bring that down, they're gonna help. Polycystic overy
syndrome is one of many triggers for CFS and fibro.
High testosterone high d h A. I'm gonna be looking
for that, got it? Okay, So you're talking about pregnan
alone now. Now, pregnant alone is the mother hormone just
after cholesterol, which is the ultimate mother hormone for these things.
And we're finding more and more that most people I'm
seeing with CFS and fibro have a low pregnant alone.
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The blockade in hormone production seems to begin even at
the level of cholesterol m hmm. But does a clesteral
level then go up because you're unable to make the
pregnant alone that you that you need. Most people tend
to be on the low side because their liver function
is low. Energy is low on the liver. Liver doesn't
make chlester all as well. Other people are high because
the thyroid is low, so cholesterol can be all over
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the place and people. Does do cholesterol lowering drugs have
an impact? Yes, very good, you know more of the
most octaves ready um. Cholesterol lowering drugs in the Staton
family are a potent trigger for fiber my ouncer because
they deplete something called coenzyme Q ten and they can
trigger muscle pain. Unless my back is against the wall,
I will not use the statens in people with fiber
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miles and CFS. Instead, I'll use berbering in nostril hex
and and eate oats, exercise and optimizing thyroid function, and
that is usually enough to bring down the cholesteral to
under two hundred. Do you always give coaching ten to
your fiber MILT patients. No, it's a little bit pricey. Uh.
If if cost is not an issue, sure, but if
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they're on statons anybody on Movicore family medications, I recommend
a form called vital Line because brown is important. I'm
very picky about brands because quality control in the health
food industry is horrible. So I like to use a
vital line. Coenzyme Q ten two hundred milligrams a day.
Very helpful. We're only just scratching the service here. We've
got a whole lot more to discuss after the break,
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all right, so it can walk me through again. So we
we we're done with the S and the H. Now
into immune I would be infections and immunity. Uh. This
is an immune suppressed illness, or sometimes immune systems overactive
and something then burns out and becomes underactive. Yeast overgrowth,
although controversial in medicine, is a major problem. We know
that it occurs and aids, and we know clinically, even
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though there's no specific tests for it, that incurres in
cyfs if you have chronic sinus sidus and nasal congestion,
or if you have spastic colon, gas, floating, diarrhea, or constipation.
In most cases, this is the yeast or fungal or
candid or whatever name you want to use over growth,
and it needs to be treated with six weeks of
diplucan at two milligrams a day. You need to avoid sugar,
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except for chocolate, which I think is a healthy food,
so I tell people to leave out in built real chocolate,
dark chocolate as the best at that point going The
Sigar fry chocolate. Skadiva has a great line wrestle stover
has a great line um, and you need to take probiotics.
I like acid off less pearls because they keep the
healthy back here from being killed in the stomach. Acid
as they go through two twice a day for five months,
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great food, seed extract um. There's many natural things, but
I'd like to use the medication die luke Can for
six weeks and people find that they're sinus otis will
go away with that treatment for the first time in years,
because sinus otus is a fungal problem with only his
secondary back tire all overgrowth. Ever, use the nitty pots
for sinus infections. Absolutely, nutty pots they're wonderful for those
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who can handle them. You poured in one side of
your nose and it goes out the other. But for
most Americans, they kind of go when they think about it.
So I just tell him to take an eye dropper
and take a salt water solution quarter teaspoon of salt,
a couple of lukewarm water, lay on the bed for
the night dropper or two of it, and it's now
soil blowing nose in the towl a couple of times,
blow gently so you don't hurt your ears. Also, there's
a wonderful sin a side of snow spray that's a
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mix of antibacterial doctor band uh an antifungal, zolotl, and
a little bit of Backla metho zone, which is outstanding compounding.
Pharmacists can make it like I T. C. Pharmacy Um,
but any of the numbers we just called the son
aside snow spray. It's outstanding for knocking out the sinusidus.
And you don't get all the side effects of the antibiotics.
You know, I gotta say you're encyclopedic inside. I mean,
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I have to remember remembering the name over the over
the counter medication. You're going into the details of the
bacamethazine one point point percent. Well, that's why I saw
on the website it's Vitality one on one dot com.
People click on treatment protocol every treatment we're going to
talk about the full directions for use and how to
find them. It's all there. But did you just actually
but how you actually you know what you have? You
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always had an impressive memory for these levels double details.
I yes, so I was class geek. You know. Oh
my goodness, before after you're homeless, uh, even before I
have a bad habit. I read the medical literature for fund.
It's not unusual for me to go through a hundred
studies a day, and I recognized that the conclusion of
(14:08):
a study tells me who paid for the study. You
have to know how to rip the data a part
to see what it chose, and I'm merciless. I will
call the authors and I will say, what's the data
on this that's missing in your report? Because it's obvious
that something was left out because it didn't fit what
they there the company wanted to say. And you get
these responses that are, oh he got lost everything, but
(14:30):
the dog ate it. So it's I've been doing this
for thirty years now. And um, I remember I had
an old friend of mine who could always go right
to the heart of the problem. He's a psychiatrist, And
I said, how do you go right to it? He
just looked at me and said, I've been doing this
for fifty years. Yeah, he's got twenty years on me. Yeah.
We're talking about ribos, something that I hear about all
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the time from my father in law. So to teach
us a little bit about why taking a sugar can
be good for us, Well, most sugars are harmful because
we got a hund Ford fifty pounds per person per year,
additur diet. It's eight percent of calories and it's it's nasty. Um.
So that's why I tell people to avoid sugar. But
the universe has a sense of humor. I mean there's
a certain irony that comes with having told people avoid sugar.
(15:13):
And now I'm finding a specific sugar called dry boats
that your body uses. That's the foundation of energy production. Uh.
If you look at the molecules like a t P,
which are the kind of like the dollars the paper
that the dollar goals for energy are printed on UM.
They're the backbone of energy production. That these molecules are
made mostly of the vitamins at an enoch you have
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plenty of and dry boas. And what you're finding is
that an energy to petid states, especially heart disease. Now,
your father in law, that is a very wise man
if he knows about this, because the many heart problems
are associated with the loss of energy production in the heart,
just like you see in chronic fatigue syndrome and fibro
mi aaltra, and the heart muscle, just like all the
other muscles, are then struggling to go ahead and function
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and they become they basically go on a down hill
spiral as they try to keep up. UM. We found
the dry boas supplied the backbone for energy production UM.
And we were hoping and a study we did a
study in CFS and five of miles or we're hoping
to see maybe a ten percent increase in energy, because
that's a lot for a single nutrient. We saw average
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increase in energy after only three weeks in the in
the people who took dry boss just basically not their
socks off in people with heart disease, and I talked
to doctor after doctor after doctor. I hear words like
it's a miracle, this is outstanding, amazing. You don't see
that with too many treatments. UM. Frankly, anybody that I
(16:40):
have with heart disease. We have one person in the
study with at re fibrillation. You have normal heart of them.
By the end of the study it had gone away
and he was able to come off and say off
as medications. Um. Because as you restore energy efficiency in
the heart, you get less angela because of worse more efficiently.
It is amazing for diaestolic and justive heart failure where
people get shortness of breath and go swelling and get
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shorter breath laying flat um abnormal heart rhythms will tend
to decrease. I like to add certainly magnesium. Let's see
little car and the Tina coinsime Q ten to that mix.
The dry boats is amazing for heart disease, amazing for
chronic fatigue syndrome. But the proper dose is critical UM
five grams, which would be one scoop and many containers
three times a day for two weeks to three weeks,
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and then you can just take it morning at night.
So it's actually fifteen grams a day, taking five grams
several times a day in the beginning, but after three
weeks you can drop it down to to five grams
twice a day ten grams a day. Side effects. The
only side effects we saw were the two people got
to energize and fell hyper so in one one just
lowered the dose and the alone get scared because they
felt to energize and sound stopped that. The one who
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lower the dose was fine. Just take it with food.
If that happens, you take every morning I put I
have a vitamin powder that I use because the three
places thirty five tablets of supplements. I just take that
instead of handfuls of stuff, and I throw scooper rybos
into that, and I take my morning drink and I'm
good to go. Do you put it in water? Juice?
You can put in the water, juice, milk, coffee, tea, food,
you can put it. It looks and tastes like sugar,
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and its heats table You can put in anything you want.
Does it have calories that it's not. It's the funny
thing is it's not metabolized. First of all, it only
has twenty calories anyway in the five grams um but
it's not metabolized as a sugar, so it doesn't cause
anyway game you start taking some, Lisa, I've been taking
it for years, of course not. My dad does give
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it to My father is a cardiox surgion also and
he gives it to his patients. Yeah, because there's a
study going on now, I guess I can talk about
it to where they have about a hundred sixty people
that have gone through so far having bypass are the
ones who are pre treated with rivals. There's been no
deaths in the entire series Columbia. Better watch out. Maybe
I'm doing the study speaking to study. It's just is
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it really available? I mean, I would use it in
any hard patients out there at the drop of a hat.
It's just it's probably gonna be the most important nutrients
discovery of this decade, the ribos. It's outstanding, it's fun
and in the In addition to the supplements, there are
also some food advice that you give the folks of fibermalogic.
Just walk us through those real quick. And you want
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to increase water intake. Now people are gonna say, I'm
already drinking like a fish. And just say yes, but
you're being like a race horse. And because the anti
diuretic or water retaining hormone is also low. And people
say how many glasses of water should I drink a day?
And you know, I can't imagine. You know, I picked her.
There's this little place in a corner of Haiti somewhere
where they put people and say you have to count
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classes of water fraternity. I mean, it's a horrible way
to live your life. So don't do that. Just check
your mouth and check your lips. If your mouth and
lips dry or thirsty, drink more water. Get a good
quality water. Doesn't have to be expensive distilled water. It's
okay if you're taking the vitamin powders because they have
the minerals in out. Otherwise you need the mineral, so
be in the water. UM, but basically drink enough so
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that you're not so that your mouth and lips and moist. Also,
we mentioned avoiding sugar except for chocolate and ribos I
guess I'll throw that in um. And also you most
people find that they feel better with a high protein
and low carbohydrate diet, but everybody is different. You want
to eat what leads you're feeling the best. It's not
always what you crave, but check into three hours after
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you ah, you'll see how you feel. The other thing
is increase your salt and take unless you have high
blood pressure. Most of you out there have low blood
pressure with this disease. More salt is critical because the
adrenal is not working properly. The way you can tell
you need adrenal support, you get an irritable one hunger.
If it's like a light switch goes off and your
spouse knows they have three menutas to feed you or
you will kill them, you need adrenal support. All Right,
(20:35):
we have a lot more to talk about, but first
let's take a quick break. We were doctor Jacob title well,
I'm talking about a fire, maalogy, let switch gears, talking
about pain for for a little bit. And these are
chronic pain conditions that so many of us are afflicted
(20:56):
by until frequently when we are seen by friends or
patients who have these elements, we throw a few medications
at them to deal with the acute crisis, but often
don't deal with the underlying issue. And you highlight quite
nicely in the book that that pain is a symptom
that you shouldn't ignore. I mean, you don't want to
have it as your wake up call, but it is
a wake up call get you thinking about something you're doing,
whether it's repetitive injury from some act or or or
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basic rehab needs that you may have in your life.
So let's start with back pain. Well, let's take a look.
As you mentioned that pain as a warning. Pain is
not the enemy, and I want to know CFS and
five miles or not the enemy either like blowing a
few what CFS connec fatigue syndrome like blowing a fuse.
They protect your body and in fact I just want
to mention some one thing before I go to pain. Um.
Chronic fatigue syndrome is not the enemy. It is an
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opportunity to get your life back. Most people who get
it are in people who have been doing what they
think they should do instead of what their souls or
psyche are really asking them to do. And it pulls
her out of the game long enough to get a
sense of what feels good to you so I can
get you better. The five Miles and Fatigue centers can
go to a website www. Dot fiber and fatigue dot Com.
Their doctors know how to get you well. They're all
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over the country. But the key thing is, once you
get better, if you go back to a life you hate,
I've done nothing for you and you're gonna get sick again,
maybe in a different way. So you need to check
in with what feels good to you, not what you
think you should do. If you follow that, the illness
will give your life back. Now. Pain is also not
the enemy. If you have your hot your hand on
a hot stove, you want to know before you smell burning,
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flush out what pain is for. It's the oil light
on your dashboard that says something needs attention. Now. When
that dread flashing light goes off. Uh, you know, you
take you go to the doctor and you say this
lights annoying me. Says no problem. He puts a band
aid over it, and he says all better. Uh, And
then you wonder why the motor burns out later while
you get sixteen thousand, five hundred deaths a year from
end says in the United States inflammatory disease. We have
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medications that are the standard, our dratis medications. Uh, you know,
the over sixteen thousand deaths, and they're unnecessary because the
natural remedies are more effective and very safe. So let's
start with back paint. Uh. The studies show that if
you use woola bark and proper dosing is twice as
effective as these arthorotist type of medications that are normally
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used for back pain. Also, if you have disc pain,
you don't need surgery. There's an old herbal remedy turn
prescription called colchis um and there's studies of over six
thousand patients. Now the show that if you give one
little grammage venously a week for six weeks, that knocks
out disc pain and over seventy cases and if you
have magnesium and B vitamins to the ivy um. Let
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me put it this way. As a pain specialist, I've
sent one person for disk surgery for pain in the
last twenty years. He had to go to Hopkins for
multi level specialty surgery. All the rest of them have
had the pain go away with the ivy culturism once
a week for six weeks. Easy. There's a big problem
though it's cheap six dollars or those Why what does
cultures seen do. Coulture, by the way, is a drug
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that we come and the use for gout and elements
of that nature. What does culture do that that taste
your back pain? Well, it's technically called the mitotic spindle
and heavy YadA, YadA YadA. But what it means is
that it gets into the disk space. It's an anti inflammatory.
It's not the pressure on the nerve from the disk
that causes of pain. It's the inflammation from the gel
and the discs is inflammatory and it puts out that fire.
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Mhm m. It's remarkable. And that's that's a wonderful thing.
You don't need surgery for that. You don't need searchery
for carpal tunnel syndrome. What do you do for a
couple of tunnels? In? Vitamin B six milligrams a day,
a ris splint that keeps your hand in a neutral
position at night that you're holding a glass of water
kind of neutral um. And I used a little bit
of thyroid and within six weeks, because I've had one
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person who had continuing repetitive stress entry who needed surgery.
But thus said, and every other patient has gone away
within about six or twelve weeks. Now hy B six
and not the full of gacid of B twelve any
the other uh, methyleating agents basics and thyroid both have
the effect of decreasing swelling in the tissues. UM and
carpal tunnel is when they're swelling their pincils on a
nerve going through the risk it decreases swelling, the problem
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goes away headaches. So you had the encyclopedia here just
keep going headaches, well, migraine headache UM as as funny
as one of one of the major national networks doing
going on the right before me, they had a thing,
I'm taking out major parts of the face muscles to
decrease migraines. And when I went on, I wanted to say, look,
studies show that vitamin B two robber flavan at four
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milligrams at ten cents a day decreases it by but
it's attacking to dis A person on right before you
is how to bite my tongue. I'm not good at that,
but I had to do it anyway. UM. But basically
from migraine headaches, vitamin B to magnesium B vitamins in
general are very good. Pedadolex, which is an herb called
butter ber, also very very effective as both treating and
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preventing migraines, treating food allergies. It will be a very
important part of eliminating migraines in many studies. Migraines are
very easy to prevent osteoprocess. I hate they go through
this so quickly, but let's do it. There's two thumbnails. Uh,
Strontium is a hundred seventy as effective as the standard
Osteo process medications, but much safer and much cheaper um
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in my book and the Pain if we want to three.
I talked about sixty milligrams today, but I'm thinking a
hundred seventy milligrams today for most people's plenty. Okay. And
I must say, and this is an issue that I'm
doing with my own family because my mother has bones
that are brittle, although she was a big bone woman
her whole life. Have to take the vitamin powder. Uh.
They can go on my website, can find it. But
any healthful story will have it. That we talked about earlier.
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It's gonna have many nutrients like born magnesium, other things
that are critical good. There's many many nutrients. Calcium is
actually a small player, but take the calcium if you
have osteo process. I got the strontium. How about I
mean K two Vitamin K two is not as important.
It's important for building bone, but the study show Julie
doesn't play that big of a role and preventing factors.
So at least I told you born was important. You're
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always right, honey, God, where do you find her? Don
take your dead? O. Mom, Thank you so much for
being so precise in your recommendations and so comprehensively you
thought your Your philosophy towards healing is one that I
want a lot of the listeners to at least be
aware of. I appreciate the work you've put into into
the field. Again, pain Free one to three and from
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Fatigue to Fantastic are wonderful treatises, UH, books that I
think actually can be helpful to folks, because so often
we rely on conventional medical dogma to lead you down
the garden path. And you know, if you've got a
gunshot to the chest, I do think I'm the right
person to help you because I know how to put
the right kind of rolling in the whole the question
of bleeding that the anilments we've been speaking about today
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contracing critique syndrome, which wasn't even acknowledged to be really
a disease from by by many physicians until recently and
even today, by the way, I think there are many
of who still believe that it's not really an ailment
that has definable characteristics that can be treated, uh things
like back pain afflis a majority of the population is
import in their life. Again, I agree to the whole
hardly with your belief that that we shouldn't be taking
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these folks off the surgery. Most of studies show that
as well. But let me I said one big question
at the end. We've been talking a lot about nutritional
supplements and food issues, but there are other therapies there
probably needed parts of easy questions you mentioned for both
corporal tunnel in for back pain, the rehab probably has
an element. You did mention the risk for the for
the splint, what do you put on how do you
how do you put your your emphasis on those issues
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for the rehab issues. If you're gonna go with the
physical therapist, ask for one who knows the technique called
spray and stretch by Dr Janet Travel. If they know
that technique, they're probably really good. But many physical therapists
think that if a muscle is short and you should
pull on it, and all that does is hurt the muscle,
and the muscle pull right back wherever the stretch and
spray there's no pain. You can release the muscle in
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ten seconds very easily. How does it work. Um, Basically,
it's a it's a cold spray that blocks the pain
reflects for about thirty seconds. During that time, you can
stretch it back to its normal length and no problem
at all, and it's done. It's it's a remarkable thing
when people see it. I've knocked out chronic headaches that
people have had for decades with the thirty seconds sperience stretch.
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Because again, if you try to pull on muscle, it
just pulls back, hurts. But if you block the pain
thirty seconds, it all takes you release the muscle is done.
But you also have to treat the underlying energy problem
in the muscle by treating sleep, hormone affection nutrition. You
do that combination, then you get long lasting relief. Otherwise
you go to chiropractor for and you feel better for
about three hours, but the muscle goes back in the
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shortened position. You're going forever. You treat the underlying problems
metabolically with the sleep hormones, infection, nutrition, I know, I
say it over and over. Then when the chiropractic release
is done, it will stay released after a couple of
treatments that TAT and thank you very very much for
joining us.
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