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July 25, 2025 27 mins

We lost three celebrity legends this week, in just the span of 5 days! This week’s tragic news got Amy and T.J. talking about the notion, that deaths come in threes. We go back over the years to highlight other famous moments in history - did you know Michael Jackson, Farrah Fawcett and Ed McMahon all died within 3 days of one another? The examples are mind blowing, but scientists have a name for this phenomenon that might blow a big hole in the theory of threes: it’s called “Apophenia.”

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, there are folks. It is July twenty fifth, and
what a week it's been. Malcolm Jamal Warner dead, Ozzy
Osbourne dead, Hulk Hogan dead, and all of them died
within a five day period this week. What more evidence
do you need of the rule actually existing? Yes, celebrities

(00:23):
die in threes. And with that, welcome to this episode
of Amy and TJ. Yes, I present that robes as
evidence that celebrities die in threes. But there's an argument
that it's all in our heads. But you can't deny
these aren't just three celebrities that we saw this week
within a five day period.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
These are three legends that died within a five day period.
And I'm sure this is something that anecdotally people have
said often, but in newsrooms, this is something that we
actually have lived by. We I mean, you've heard this before,
Like you get a big celebrity who passes, and then
everyone says who's next because there are two more? And

(01:01):
then it feels like, at least when I reflect back
that that happened more often than you would think in
a way that it felt not just coincidental, but it
felt like, yeah, maybe that is a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
And we won't go as far as say that any
newsroom I was in put things in place to prepare,
But in your mind, as a reporter in that newsroom,
you're almost bracing yourself or something else is coming this week,
or something else has come.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
And it was talked about openly having those discussions who's next,
what's going to happen, and then there would be news
of another celebrity death, and then everybody would be waiting
for the third one. That absolutely happened multiple times in
my career.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
We never got a chance to recover this week from
no mourning anybody's death, because another one came, and then
another one came. So we go back to Sunday, which
is July the twentieth. I have it right. The word
a shock the hell out of us all. Malcolm Jamal
molt Warner, fifty four years old dies on vacation in
Costa Rica.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah we found out on Monday morning, did we not?
Because it happened Sunday afternoon or something. So yeah, we
were all shocked. Theo Huxtable immediately put on the Cosby
Show and started remembering him and how much he meant
to so many of us, and.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
So that is he was on a show that goes
beyond just popularity. It goes beyond just something we all enjoyed.
This was an iconic history making show and he was
in the midst of it. Healthy fifty four year old
guy drowns two days later, two days after he died.
But it was two days later, but we got word
the very next day, did correct, because we got word

(02:26):
on the twenty first that Malcolm was dead the twenty second,
the next day, Ozzy Osbourne, that's not just a celebrity death.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
No, no, And yes, he was a pioneer in heavy
metal and certainly was the lead singer of Black Sabbath,
But that show, the Osbourns, that brought him into such
a popular fame outside of music, outside of that heavy
metal genre. You didn't have to be a fan of
his music to actually be a fan of his and
his families. It started and launched the careers of Sharon

(02:54):
Osbourne and his daughter, and we just got to know
them and love them and said, you saw a befuddled
family man, comedic at times, versus this rock star who
was biting the heads off of dup. So Yes, he
was just a huge part of American culture.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
He was a pioneer in music, but that show almost
made him iconic, because you become a legend right when
you are able to touch more than one generation. He
became legendary. I was watching that show. I had no
idea about his music, no clue. I knew he was
a rock star.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Something don't strike me as the heavy metal kind of guy.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
No, I didn't get into it later in life, but
that made him iconic. And then we have two days
after that, Hulk Hogan. This is not just some wrestler
or some famous guy. So this week Robes, we saw
three icons go. So of course this conversation comes back up. Obviously,
there this happens. This is not just a myth. It's
not just superstitious. Obviously, celebrities die in threes. Are you

(03:52):
a believer? You know?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I think it's I do lean into it. Look, do
I think it always happens this way? It has to
happen this way? No, But I do think it is
bizarre that it has happened like this over the years.
And there are so many instances that we can point
to that backs up. If you want to make this
your theory, there is a lot of anecdotal proof behind it.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
So we're going to remind you folks of some of them.
And I know when this happened this week, you have
You've probably had a discussion already with some friend or
somebody in the office about this very thing, and then
you try to think, now, what were the other ones?
What were the other ones? And rose we start here
with one that was in specifically December of twenty sixteen.
This might not have been the first one that came
to people's minds, but you certainly will remember it.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Oh my goodness, Alan Thick December thirteenth. He collapsed while
playing hockey. He was only sixty nine years old. But
talk about somebody who came into our homes and into
our lives and was a huge part of so many
of our coming of age. Alan Thick, the family man
from Family Ties, right, I always get, yes, growing pains,

(04:56):
family ties, growing paints. I always get those two mixed up. Sorry,
growing pains. But he was the dad that we all loved.
I mean, he was just funny and of course his
son Robin. He was just a huge part of American culture.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
So this is December, right, We're getting ready for the
holidays around this time. So December thirteenth. Alan Thick dies
ten days later. George Michael Heartfeil fifty three years old.
Now that is a big one that I remember, and
I remember I was doing a lot of coverage around
George Michael just the sudden passing of again he was
an icon in way, so many ways, but in different

(05:29):
music genres and in pop culture and in the LGBTQ
plus community. He became iconic in so many ways.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
That was a huge loss, heart failure at fifty three.
I didn't realize he was that young when he passed.
My goodness, and then this one hit Ah hit me
so hard and so personally. I fell in love with
this woman, obviously when I was young as Princess Leah,
but certainly as she got older, with her wit and
her hilariousness. It was one of my favorite interviews I

(05:58):
ever did in my entire life, the amazing Carrie Fisher.
She died December twenty seventh. That shocked the hell out
of so many of us cardiac arrest and by the way,
her mother died shortly thereafter, so that was a tough stretch.
In December of twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I believe she was just sixty. It seems like Star
Wars has been a part of my life. I even
came out when I was the Diarra was born. So
she has to think she was so young that she
has become iconic in this legend and she was just sixty.
That was so much more life she had to live now.
That was twenty sixteen. We moved to twenty eighteen. That
a lot of people will remember because this was a

(06:34):
big story Glee star Nya Rivera. I remember she was
missing from the lake for a little washer going out
of the boat.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Goodness story. Totally forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
That was July eighth of twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
July eighth, and then Regis Philbin passed on July twelfth,
just four days later from heart disease. He was eighty
eight years old. We don't need to explain why Regis
Philbin was just the iconic host that he was and
will ever be remembered as Regis and Kathy Lee, right,
I mean, that is just going to go down in history.
Has there ever been a better duo on television than

(07:07):
the two of them?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I can't, I can't. I mean maybe Matt and Katie
would come as a distant second, but what.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Argument would somebody make that those two weren't the ultimate duo.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
They created and popularized and made that talk show format
what it is today.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
And everybody's been trying to do it ever since, and.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
They had No one's been able to replicate what Regis
and Kathy Lee were able to do.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, but then twelve days after his passing, Kelly Preston.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
That was heartbreaking. Yes, that was breast cancer recurrence. And
she had, you know, she had had all of this,
you know, heartbreak with her son Jed dying. They were
able to have this miracle baby. I think she was
fifty years old and had a baby with her husband,
of course, John Travolta. But that one was gutting to
know that Kelly Preston died way too young from breast.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Cancer young as well, fifty seven years old. So that
was twenty eighteen. In July, you had those three death
Now we're going to move to July of twenty twenty three,
and one person who died in July we were just
recently were about her.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
We were Jane Burkin, of course, who made the Burkin
bag famous, but was an actress in her own right.
But she died on July sixteenth, at the age of
seventy six, and then Tony Bennett passed away just a
few days later on July twenty first, he had Alzheimer's.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
And then Snead O'Connor July twenty sixth of that same
month at fifty six. I've gone back and looking through
some of these. Some of these folks were so young,
but there you go. In July of twenty twenty three,
you have in a ten day period, we lose Jane Burkin,
Tony Bennett, Shannat O'Connor. This list so far. You look
at this and go, wow, it's just freaky. It's weird.

(08:45):
And they are days apart, sometimes barely even a week apart.
It's just freaky. Now all this came about. Did you
remember this story? I only remember it because of the
song American Pie, where there's a line in there about
the day the music died, and February third of nineteen
fifty nine Robes is the day they're specifically talking about,

(09:08):
and a lot of people will point to that day
as the day. They kind of got people going on
this idea that celebrities die in threes.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yes, so, Buddy, Holly Richie Vallens and the Big Bopper.
All three died in a plane crash together. Yes, February third,
nineteen fifty nine. It happened in Iowa, and it certainly
it rocked not just the music world but the world
with their deaths. And yes, the day the music died.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
And the Big Bopper. I might not remember that name
as well as you remember a Buddy Holly and Richie Vallens,
but I put on one of the Big Bopper's songs
and you immediately like, yeah, I know that song.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Wasn't Shantilly Yeah, Shantilly Lace.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, Shantilly Lace. You immediately jumped in and knew exactly
what it was. So that's the day. Really, A lot
of people point to where all of it started in
all of the I guess superstition in pop culture kind
of began with this, but you moved to twenty sixteen.
Another trio. Everybody will remember this one because it includes
Prince in this trio. But he wasn't the first of

(10:06):
the three celebrities that died that month.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Doris Roberts died on April seventeenth. She died in her
sleep at the age of ninety.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
From Seinfeld Double Seinfeld Fame, right, which she played George's mom.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yes, yes, I have it right. Yes, she was Missus Costanza.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes. And then of course Prince died four days later
of an overdose at the age of fifty one.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Wow, he was fifty one. Damn, that's wild. April twenty first,
so yeah, just a few days later. And then China
died April twentieth, and that too was an accidental overdose
and she was just forty.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Six WWE superstar at the time. That really messed people.
I mean, Prince obviously is the most influential name, without
a question in that particular group. But this is one
where you have somebody that big and that iconic and
have other people who were that popular die within although
think died within four days of each other. Those three folds.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
You know it's wild too, because I'm looking back the Naya,
Regis Philibin and Kelly Preston all that was. That was
two was twenty eighteen. Sorry, the twenty sixteen was Alan
think George Michael Carey Fisher. That was two trifectas in
one year. Because now we're back at twenty sixteen with
Doris Prince in China.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Wow, twenty thirteen. Excuse me, twenty twenty three. You pulled
this one up, And this is one I remember, Bob Barker.
That was in August, on August twenty sixth of twenty
twenty twenty three, but I didn't remember. It was just
less than a week later. Two more very notable folks,
one absolutely legendary that died.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Bob Barker first, but then Jimmy Buffett died on September first. Again,
I don't believe he needs any explanation. Obviously his music
lives on and is celebrated daily. But Governor New former
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson also died on September first.
They died on the exact same day. I didn't realize that.
But this is all within less than a week. Bob Barker,

(12:00):
Governor Richardson, Jimmy Buffett all pass.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
But the one that I guess probably the first thing
people might think of when they think of celebrities dying
in threes, because a lot of people can remember where
they were in June of two thousand and nine, in
particularly on June twenty fifth, because do you remember where
you were on the day and got word that Michael
Jackson had died.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I was on a plane. I was on a plane
to California. And I know this because I was I
had gotten Wi Fi and ABC had texted me and said,
we need you to cover this. You need to get
into the studio right now, to do a special report.
And I said, I'm on a plane flying to California
right now. So yes, I remember exactly where I was.
Where were you.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
At the Hudson Hotel here at Columbus Circle in New York.
I was having lunch with a friend in the courtyard
beautiful day, and there was a DJ there started playing
repeated Michael Jackson songs and I just looked down on
my phone and sure enough.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
You know what's wild about that? You and I did
not discuss this before we hopped on to record this podcast.
I didn't know that I knew where I was when
Michael Jackson died. I didn't know I was going to
ask you, And when you asked me that, the memory
just popped right in my head. That's significant.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Remember the direction I was sitting, where I was facing.
It was a female DJ at the time.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, I remember exactly. It's funny. I remember where I
was on the plane I remember the view, I remember
the feeling I had. All of that came just wait,
like a wave over me.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Wow, So janet excuse. Michael Jackson died on June twenty fifth,
a few hours before we heard about his death. Farah
Fawcett had died our same day she died. They died
on the same day. She was sixty two.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
That just shocked me. Farah Fawcett died of cancer at
the age of sixty two. I don't know. Maybe it's
the older I get, the younger people seemed to me
when they die, because two thousand and nine, maybe I
thought sixty two was old. Now I'm thinking, wow, that's
ten years from now. So yeah, she passed way too
soon on sixty two.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
I can't see her past a few iconic images. To
be honest with you, yeah, she's will ever for be
this young starlet in a lot of people's minds. But
two days before they died. Ed McMahon, goodness, that is
that dude has been a part of our lives, all
of our lives since birth.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, Bob Barker and Ed McMahon are both a part
of a death trio that's kind of interesting in and
of itself, the connection between those two.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
But they have a name for this. I can't remember
the death Day or there's some really horrific name people
used to refer to that one that is a big deal,
a big day in June of two thousand and nine.
But with all of this that happens, and all this
evidence we seem to be able to present, there are
some people out there who will tell you that they
can prove through science that these things aren't happening in threes.

(14:41):
What's really happening, it's all in your mind.

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(15:49):
we were rocked with the sudden deaths, the unexpected deaths
of three legends, Malcolm Jamal Warner, Ozzy Osbourne, Hulk Hogan,
all within five days of each other. Got to think
that so many of you have been talking about it
with your friends and at the office, and that theory
that we all seemed to bring up, because it does
seem to happen so often that celebrities die in threes. Theory,

(16:12):
improven theory or a scientific fact, but certainly you get
to the point where I after we had the second death,
after we heard about the passing of Ozzy, it does
get into your head, who's next, Who is the third
celebrity going to be? And sure enough, yesterday we all
found out the news that hul Cogan had suddenly passed

(16:34):
of cardiac arrest and so we started to think, hey,
this has happened before. There's a reason why we think
celebrities die in three So we did a little bit
of a deep dive. TJ. You were on the internet
sleuthing looking for examples, and it wasn't hard to find.
And then we remembered all those moments over the past
several decades where we thought the same thing.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Every single one that we've named so far, I remember
I couldn't remember off the top of my head, but
soon I was like, oh yeah, oh yeah, And seventy
percent of these.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
We covered exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
We absolutely did. So we remember once we see him.
A few others want to give you here, And these
come with kind of an asterisk because in Gin January
of twenty twenty two, Sidney Poitier died at the age
of ninety four. That was on January sixth of twenty
twenty two. That was followed by Bob Sagett January ninth
of twenty twenty two, and then Andre Leon Tally January

(17:23):
eighteenth of twenty twenty two. So those deaths were twelve
days apart. Now you look at that and think about
the influence, and some people might not know Andre Leon
Tally's name Ammelily, but he's a fashion icon African American
fashion journalist who is considered a very very big iconic deal.
But a lot of people obviously lumped him into that
celebrity case. But some arguing, what do you think does

(17:45):
it matter how big the celebrity is, because we got
A plus celebrities, a A minus celebrities, you got C
level cele You have folks who are known, are in
the public eye, But does it count as a celebrity?
Three death that they are not on the same level
as Jimmy Buffet.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Every time I think so. And I always heard someone say,
if your name is bold faced in the New York
Post in page six, you're a celebrity. That was the litmus.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Tack and God bless you poor thing. But no, to
your point, there one other example I know twenty eighteen.
There were a few days in twenty eighteen that we
could not believe what was happening.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
This was this was shocking. Was it was shocking too
because these well two of them were death by suicide.
In one you could say is as well it was accidental, perhaps,
but Kate Spade that one, that one was just gutting
that happened June fifth of twenty eighteen. How many of

(18:44):
us have worn Kate Spade, have her bags, just looked
up to her as a just an incredible female who
made her way in the fashion world and became the
brand that she was. To think that she died by
suicide was just so shocking, terrible.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
We had a lot of conversations after that as a
society just about signs being missed, and we didn't realize
that so much was talked about the pain she was in.
We had no idea, We had no idea. But then
here comes three days later, Anthony Bourdain.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Three days later, Anthony Bourdain June eighth. You looked at
him and saw his life and his work, and you
just thought, what an.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Incredible best job in the world he had.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
What an incredible job. And I believe he died in
this beautiful village in France, like picture exactly what people
would hope to become, or a life they would hope
to live. And yet still he was suffering, and none
of us knew, None of us knew, even his own girlfriend.
It was just beyond shocking.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
These were two who seemed to publicly have it all,
have it all, and have it all together right. The
other Boordain had been through some things in his life
he had talked about and had come out of it
and in his I'm not kidding, how could he not
have You cannot consider that the best show in the world.
You get to travel all around the world, meet new
people and eat the best food you can find.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
He can get paid handsomely to do it.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
And so that those two in a three day period.
We were mourning for quite some time after that and
having conversations. But Jackson O'Dell, I don't remember, this actor
from the Goldbergs died at the age of twenty. I
believe it was an overdose. An overdose as well there,
but died on June tenth. So those three died within
three days of each other. Again, Jackson O'Dell was on

(20:27):
a show that was very popular. He wasn't the main character,
but he was somebody who was known in the public
guy and I'm sure his name appeared on whatever celebrity page.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yes, of course it did, so those I remember that.
In fact, it's so interesting when we even just bring
it back up. I can still feel the pain and
the discomfort in my body just to hear that all
happened to people who we loved and looked up to,
all within a very short period. And that's a five
day span as well.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
So if all these examples, I think we've given eight
here now, and there are more. But there are some
out there who argue roads this is all a matter
of being in your head and it's science. It's something
that our brain does sometimes even to protect itself and
to protect us. But it's called apophenia. I was not
familiar with it. But apenia. It's a p h O

(21:16):
p h e n I A apenia. I spell that
right now?

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, I think it's a p O p h e
n I. A.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
There it is. She spelled it right. I did not appenia.
But it's this idea that we find. Our brain does this.
It finds patterns and assigns meanings to patterns, even if
the patterns are actually meaningless and random. We have the
ability to do this in our head. That can sometimes

(21:47):
protect us in certain situations, but sometimes it causes us
to do what we do here. We see random things.
Somebody dies in this country every what eleven seconds? Is
I think the thing is so naturally. There are a
lot of famous people, and a lot of them are
going to die too, and sometimes they're going to die
within days of each other or weeks of each other,
and our brain is determining this must mean something. We

(22:09):
have to put this together instead of possibly just realizing
this could all just be life and it could all
be random.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
There's an article I read, the danger of apafenia. Not
everything happens for a reason, but I think so many
of us and present party included, want to make sense
of the senseless, and so this is a part of it.
We want a pattern to mean something. We want it
to be something we can learn from or something we're
supposed to understand, even if it can just be absolutely random.

(22:39):
There was some examples about what people do in the
name of apafenia. They say many people choose their lottery
numbers based on the birth dates of their family members,
thinking that that's going to give them a better chance.
But they're saying it doesn't increase, obviously anyone's chance of winning,
but it makes you feel like it might. And so
that's just one example they gave, outside of deaths or
anything else where we're trying to connect the or create

(23:01):
some sort of order to something that is absolutely random.
And so they also say, hey, look, people who are
really into apifenia, who really try to connect it outs
sometimes that's a that's a sign of mental illness, specifically schizophrenia.
So I thought that was interesting as well. That's on
the extreme case of it, where they're always making a

(23:22):
connection to everything, and it's actually detrimental, significantly mentally detrimental
to be in that frame of mind at all times.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
We're always in a three frame of mind as well.
It's I mean, it's the Holy Trinity, right, the Father
of the Son, the Holy Spirit. But we have someone
pointing out all these examples, I mean, rock, paper scissors,
three blond mice. We just do these three rhythms, and
as far the best example I heard apafenia, the best
example I heard is this, how many times we do
we do this one today? Look down at the phone

(23:51):
and say, ooh, it's eleven eleven all the time, okay,
And then I make a wish, ooh, seventeen seventeen your
favorite number. Seventeen four four four is another one I love,
and we see it all the time of doing Some.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
People call them angel numbers or angel signs, and I
love looking up. When I see a repeated pattern, whether
it's a bill that I get, if somehow our lunch
bill ends up after just randomly some number that's repeated,
it's a sign. It's a sign of something that I
need to understand, that I need to read. And if
you google anything like that, they'll be someone out there

(24:26):
who gives you a reason for why you saw something repeated.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, it's because you're an apopheniac.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I do. I do like that. You know what it makes?
You know what it does? It makes you feel safe,
It makes you feel comfortable, It makes you feel like
you can understand something when we don't understand shit in
this world.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Because we want controlled we want a pattern, we want
an understanding the thing, and that is what causes us
to do this. This same abathenia idea is why they
say people are selling toast on eBay with an image
of Jesus Christ in it, because you're trying to find
something in fine meaning and telling yourself. But the best
example is the eleven eleven I swear to you, I

(25:08):
see that every day to eleven four forty four. You
know why, because you don't pay attention when it's three
twenty two you don't care when it's ten thirteen, because
what you do. You saw those numbers too, but this
is the one you took note of in your mind,
and you're saying, there's a pattern. I saw it today,
I saw it yesterday, And you're fooling yourself into thinking, yeah,

(25:30):
this is fascinating.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
How we want to believe that the outcome isn't just chance,
isn't just random. We want to believe that there's a purpose,
there's a higher probability if this happens, then that will happen,
and we feel comforted in knowing what to expect when truly,
obviously we all know this intellectually. Things sometimes are unexpected

(25:54):
and random and not with any meaning whatsoever other than
should happen. I mean, I think that's the opposite of epaphenia. Right,
shit happens. We don't want to believe that. We want
to believe that there's a reason, there's a purpose. It
does make you feel better to lean into that.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
At the same time, I bet there is some part
of us, as crazy as it sounds, we're almost relieved
that we got the third We're not happy that Hulk
Hogan's died. But what I'm saying is okay, we got three.
We can relax. We don't have another one's not coming in.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
We don't have to worry about other celebrity deaths.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Isn't that crazy to think like that? But I know
a lot of people out there, Look, this is interesting
some time to talk about it, and even at times
it's fun to talk about. But it's no doubt a
lot of people, not just those families, are hurting today
because all three of these folks who passed this week,
these three celebs, have impacted my life in a major
way from childhood. Yeah, all three. So a lot of

(26:49):
people out there are hurting today. Why it happened, How
it happened, if it's chance, or if there's this superstition
thing that is actually real.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Well it's something to think about and all always something
to remember, and certainly our hearts go out to all
those who were lost this week, of course the three celebrities,
But as you pointed out, TJ, there is a death
in this world or this country every eleven seconds. But
it's just another reminder to hey, you know, we can
look for the patterns and we can look for a
way to maybe make ourselves feel better about the randomness

(27:21):
of life, but it is a reason to remember what's
important and how you want to spend your time and
who you want to spend your time with. So go
hug the people you love today and we hope you
all have a wonderful weekend. I made me robock On
behalf of my partner TJ. Holmes. Thanks for listening.
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