November 4, 2025 • 19 mins
3 term Colorado Congresswoman Lauren Boebert is facing backlash for her choice of Halloween Costumes this year. Pictures have surfaced of her wearing a sombrero, in a Mexican dress, holding a racially charged sign. Boebert’s date showed up alongside her dressed as an ICE agent. This isn’t Representative Boebert’s first controversy, in fact, there’s a whole string of them.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, the folks. Sit is Tuesday, November fourth, And to
be honest with you, Roback and I have actually been
fighting about whether or not to do this episode because
I don't even believe the story is real. And with that,
welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. It
cannot be real because nobody can, as it's impossible that
(00:23):
anybody would do what they're suggesting, even with photographic evidence
this lady has done.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I was just gonna say, this isn't a suggestion, this
is actual facts. Okay, doctor, we're talking about Colorado Representative
Lauren Bobert.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And I brought this to your attention because I saw.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
People writing articles about what she wore for her Halloween
costume and I mentioned it to you, and you're like,
that's not real.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Now this started this morning, did it not? So we're
recording now in the afternoon of November four, But weren't
we talking about this pre five am?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But what you didn't know, and maybe what I didn't
tell you, was that her boyfriend showed up and the
two of them together is what made the Halloween.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Costume choice extra offensive.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Okay, I mean it would have been offensive on its own,
but it was an added layer with the boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And so when you saw the whole thing, you said,
this isn't real.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
No, No, I actually skip I'll be honest. I skipped
over the story when I initially saw it because I
saw her standing there and whatever she was in. I
just saw the headline and I kept moving on. Whatever
like it, don't like it, feel like it's the most
racist thing ever, or Okay, it's just what some people
do now and let's move on. I just kept rolling,
(01:42):
didn't even skip a beat. And you seem surprised when
I said.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Nah, yeah, because this seems like a story right up
your alley. It's interesting, it's it's provocative, and it's also
head scratching. Because should we tell the listeners what the
cosme was, okay first, so that they can get a
whole feel of this.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But I want you to go through. Let's start with
this Beaubert Lauren Bobert, who has done Bolbert, excuse me, Bobert,
who has done some things and been caught up in
some scandals and whatever, who has stepped in it before
I see her controversy in the headline, wearing some I
think they called it racially charged Halloween costume. I glanced
(02:24):
by the photo. She's wearing a sombrero and a Mexican dress.
I move on, and a short time ago you stopped
me and explained the rest. See.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So, yes, she did have a sombrero. She did have
a Mexican dress on. She also had a sign with
her that said Mexican word of the day, juicy, Tell
me if juicy ice coming.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, I didn't see that part.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I tried not to do.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
That with any sort of Hispanic accent because that would
have seemed very, very very importaste. But if you do
it with it, you can see it actually is saying
tell me if you see ice coming, right, but with
a very offensive Hispanic accent. Now, on top of that,
her boyfriend, her date to this Halloween party, was an
ice agent.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So a complete mockery of a.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Very serious and frankly devastating situation in our country.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Right now, I missed. I missed the detail about the
date being dressed as a as an ice agent and
a sigh.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Again, this was a party in Littleton, Colorado.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay, you saw some other photos. Did it seem like
anyone else was uncomfortable? Did she seem to be mingling
taking pictures with people. The whole shit.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
She seemed to be mingling. She seemed to be taking
pictures with people. There are they they are with one
other person smiling. But reportedly the pictures surfaced or came
out because someone at the party reportedly was so offended
by what they saw that they took the pictures and
then gave them to I believe the Denver Post, the
(03:57):
local newspaper, and that is the outlet that first published
these photos.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I'm gonna be honest with you still, as we sit here,
I'm having some doubt, Like I've seen the pictures, wondering
if they could have been doctored where they came from.
Who would have done something like this if it's possible.
I am being straight with you, doll. When I as
I'm sitting here, I am like, ugh, maybe maybe we
should hold off, because I have a hard time believing
(04:25):
that somebody would walk out.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Of the house in that not just somebody.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Member of Congress. I'm still struggling with that. Look. We've
seen a of offensive outfits and Halloween costumes here and
there this, and some people go, oh, I made a
mistake or I didn't consider or would have done it differently.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
She is a third term congress woman from Colorado's fourth district.
She knows what she's doing, and she knows the attention
she's getting. And how about this if you want to
be convinced that this was a choice.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
She has an official response.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
At least her office has responded to media requests. ABC
News reported this the Denver Post. It's a Halloween costume.
Tell our senators to vote for the cr and open
the government. They are choosing to let millions of American
families suffer end quote.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That can't be real.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
That is her official statement. We sure in response to
the Halloween costume controversy, We.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Sure that really came from her.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, I think you still were thinking that for quite
some time, until we googled her name and realize that
this is just the latest in a string of controversies
that has followed her or she, I don't know is
created and it's quite remarkable.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
But given some of the ones we've we've known about
in the past, this still I'm having a difficult I
know you were. I was for the longest I was
not convinced. I kept I was being dismissive of you.
Almost you were.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I was like babe, this isn't made up.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
The baby being aied, somebody's fooling you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You actually had me zoom in on the picture to
see if you could see if it was photoshopped.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's how much you did not believe that this was real.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I just, even given what we have seen in some
of the controversies and scandals that even that some of
her own party she has rubbed the wrong way with
some of these things. Even given all that, I just wrote,
that's what's the sign. The sign she had well.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Has Mexican word of the day, juicy. Tell me if
Juicy Ice coming, that's terrible. I don't one the person
who took the pictures reportedly is the one who said
it was disgusting, disgusting behavior and people were not laughing.
They didn't think it was funny. Obviously it's not. But
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it is remarkable that a member of Congress would choose
that outfit and know she was going to be photographed
and pose for photographs, knowing that she represents a district
that is fourteen percent Hispanic.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
It's I don't know how you apologize for that one.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
She hasn't.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I don't know how. It's a costume it's a Halloween costume.
There's something. There's got to be a humanity in it all.
There's gotta be an ounce of I mean, empathy for
your for a human being, no matter what. And I
can't imagine that kind of intentional slight to a culture.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It is hard to get your head around.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But I don't think she thought it was just funny.
There's gotta be a reason. There's got to be a constituency.
There's got to be something. There's got to be somethingting
in somebody she's playing to think this is okay.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, there were some responses just to get an idea
about how people in that community, in the Latino community
felt about what she did. The president of the Latino
Coalition in Colorado told this to the Denver Post. She
should be ashamed of herself. Though I believe she is
incapable of any emotion that generates human decency. Her bigotry
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and ignorance are clearly evident in her chosen apparel this day,
and then State Senator Julie Gonzalez, who was also the
co chair of the Colorado Democratic Latino Caucus, said she well,
she asked Bobert to apologize and said she should know
that our culture is not a costume and being bilingual
is an.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Asset, not a joke. I thought that was really well
well put.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
They have to be fuming, and I would like to,
you know, maybe she'll say nothing. I don't know what
to explain. I don't know what I need to hear
to relax a little bit about what you feel when
you see something like this, and you know, I'm always
this way and even in this one like to hear
something from her. I would like to. I just I
(09:05):
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
What's so interesting though, because we actually did a bit
of a deep dive on her and to consider where
she came from, and she's talked about this publicly, about
her story, how she was uprooted from Florida to the
state of Colorado, how her family was on welfare, how
she did not live an opulent life. She had a
(09:29):
tough life, and she talked about going through that. So
it's just interesting someone who's had that kind of a upbringing.
She actually dropped out of high school because she got pregnant,
and she got her ged I believe, just a few
years ago before she was elected into office, so she
knows what it's like to struggle. She knows what it's
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like to feel marginalized in some ways. So it's so
interesting to me that she can't acknowledge or understand how
what she's choosing to do to laugh fat or to
make a joke or mockery of is actually incredibly painful.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Imagining the difficulty she must have had in her life.
I think you almost want to stand up and applaud
when you hear that. And to think that woman made
it to Congress, raised four boys, made it to Congress
and is in a third term. That should be celebrated.
Her background that should be highlighted and focused and talked
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about and looked at. And but why the opportunity she's
had to be that? Look, I'm sure, I mean, she's
getting elected. They must like her, somebody does, and she's
doing her thing, and whatever she's doing is working out there.
So who the hell are we to talk or criticize
a Halloween costume? But we just mentioned a moment ago.
This was not the first of her controversy. She had
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said some pretty controversial things in the past, and she
has directed a lot of her comments toward her own
her own fellow members of Congress, including accusing one of
carrying a pimp cane and the other one of carrying
a suicide bomb. Stay with us, we continue now. I'm
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starting ropes to get a little convinced that maybe this
thing about Lauren Berbert Bobert, Congresswoman Lauren Bobert is is real.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
That's good to hear.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Okay, I'm coming around. Maybe by the end of this
episode I will be on board. But yeah, the outfit
she wore dress and Mexican garb, wearing a sombrero. Her
date is dressed as an ice agent and a really
offensive message hanging around her neck. Rose you look is
we haven't necessarily laughed in the first part of this episode.
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We're gonna be honest. We were looking up some of
the stuff she has said and been accused of in
the past and her response to it. It's almost just
it's jaw dropping, but it makes your giggle, like are
you kidding?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's well, you're laughing because you're laughing in absolute horror
and you just can't believe what you're reading. And so
you were reading article and I was reading an article,
and you'd be like what, and it's just it's that
it's it's so offensive. Then you realize she has a
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history of doing this, and sometimes she apologizes and sometimes
she doubles down, and it looks like this time she's
laughing it off. But she doesn't have any real accountability
for some pretty horrific things.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
She said.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Did she ever a bucket? Does she I don't have
it up? Does she apologize with the pimp kne She
did not.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
She doubled down. Okay, so we'll start with a double down.
This is Representative Al Green.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
He was.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
He gave that fiery speech in the halls of Congress,
and he had that cane.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Oh no, this is what he was interrupting Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh, this is when President Trump was addressing Congress. He
stood up, started yelling at Trump, and eventually he had
to be escorted out correc So, Texas.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yes, So she was giving an interview shortly thereafter, and
she spoke of Green. She said, she said for him
to go and shake his pimp cane at President Trump
was absolutely imbhorrent.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Don't hear that a lot in Congress? She said, They
remember of Congress said a pimpkin.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yes, and it was a black member of Congress to
be very specific.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Are, by the way, yes, Al Green.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Pretty black name. I say that because you think about
Al Green. There's one guy you think of when you
hear Al Green.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
The singer.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yes, the singer and very smooth.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
But in fact, when we when we were talking about
this and you said his name, I was like, wait,
is that the right name?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Isn't that the singer? I got really confused. It's funny
you point that out.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
And shaking a Pimpcine? Now she had an opportunity? Did
she not to correct? To apologize about this?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Correct? So the first time she was asked, she said,
I stand by what I said.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
The first time. There's more than one yes.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And then she was she was she was on another
show and they asked specifically about what she said, and
she said, look, if that gold plated Kane isn't a Pimpcaine,
I don't know what is Okay, So that is doubling down.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
She tripled. She had two opportunities down.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yes, I stand by what I said.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Okay, when you said the last one, that's.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Just so well, then you start laughing. It's comical because
it's so offensive. You actually don't know what else to do.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I mean, the words, should we be that offended? That
upset about it. I don't know. No, you don't want
your members of Congress hurling insults like that, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And generalizations and offensive stereotypical.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Comments and that imagery. We know what that conjures up
when you say something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yes, So that was in March of this past year.
But before that, there was her beef with ilhan.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Omar to say gold plated pimp.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
She said, gold plated Kane isn't a Pimpcane. I don't
know what is.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Sorry, Yes, she said that, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
So with ilhan Omar, she was giving a speech, correct.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Bobert, No, she was recalling a story.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yes, yes, So she was giving a speech and she
had a crowd full of folks and she told this
story about her time in Congress. She said, I'm quoting her.
So the other night on the House floor was not
my first jihad squad moment. I was getting into an
elevator with one of my staffers, and he and I
were leaving the Capitol. We're going back to my office
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and we get in the elevator and I see a
Capitol police officer running hurriedly.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
To the elevator.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I see fred all over his face and he's reaching
the door shutting.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I can't open it. What's happening.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I looked to my left and there she is Ilhan
Omar and I said, well, she doesn't have a backpack.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
We should be fine. And the crowd laughed.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yes, she was telling it to a fundraising crowd. It
was some group of friendly faces. So yes, she was
being comedic. She was holding court, so to speak, telling
a story and the folks were laughing.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And that got support from the crowd. Yes, okay, I
didn't know that detail.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yes, and so yeah and then yeah, so she just
said and she just went on to then belittle her
and say, so we only had one floor to go.
And I say, do I say it or do I not?
And I look over and I say, look, the Jihad
squad decided to show up for work today. She actually
said that to her face.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
And then she.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Told the group she was speaking to, don't worry. It's
just her staffers on Twitter that talk for her. She's
not tough in person.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And Representative Omar I actually refuted at that door. She said,
we never ever got on an elevator together, and this
never happened, you know what. A represent of Omar had
a good line I'm gonna mess it up a little bit,
but this is almost verbatim. She said, it's a shame
that Congresswoman Bobert thinks that biggest street, big tree will
get you clapped.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yes, I did see that. Yes I did.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yes, And we've actually had Representative Omar, we've actually interviewed her.
She's been very you know, you can agree with her
or disagree with her. Been very level headed. She's not
one to continue a fight. Certainly, even if it was
pushed on her or put upon her, she handled it very.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
She's a lot of classes.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
She said. They got on the phone after this whole incident,
said it went terribly and she said she had to
get off the phone because it wasn't productive. She said,
you didn't give it an apology. That was her statement,
at least represent of Omar. But I know these are
tough she had. This is somebody keeps getting elected. And look,
some people look at this like people were making too
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big of a deal out of it. Eh, maybe you
can certainly feel that way. I just I felt a
certain way and just struggled. I did. It was so
great there that I truly.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Did not believe you this day and age in fact.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I remember the Monday after Halloween, I was thinking to myself, Oh,
I didn't read about any Halloween costume mishaps.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Over the years.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Too many people have made too many bad choices appropriating
other people's cultures whatever, They offend people in some way,
and I hadn't heard of one, and I was like,
oh wow. And I remember thinking, this is one of
those rare Halloweens where no one put on a stupid
Halloween costume that got them in trouble.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
But haven't we seen some ignorance, some oops, some genuine
miscalculations and outfits before, and people have had to apologize,
And like, I didn't know, we've seen some stuff around
Halloween or elsewhere. This was you can't. I can't that
you had to put out a chalkboard and write it
(18:48):
out there that yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And there have been enough of the other more subtle
problems that people have run into where it feels like
this was a choice.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Again that plenty of people may be listening that go, guys,
that's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Costume.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
It's a Halloween costume. What's the big deal? Get over it.
We got to shut down. We got bigger problems, sure.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I mean, look, I think that that's fine if you're
a private citizen, but when you represent a district and
you're elected and you're there to represent everybody, that is
highly offensive and certainly not inclusive, and that's a kind
way of putting her choice.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
There is no way to argue with that, and with that,
folks always appreciate you spend some time with us. I'm TJ. Holmes,
behalf fingy robot will talk to y'lson.
Hey, the folks. Sit is Tuesday, November fourth, And to
be honest with you, Roback and I have actually been
fighting about whether or not to do this episode because
I don't even believe the story is real. And with that,
welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. It
cannot be real because nobody can, as it's impossible that
(00:23):
anybody would do what they're suggesting, even with photographic evidence
this lady has done.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I was just gonna say, this isn't a suggestion, this
is actual facts. Okay, doctor, we're talking about Colorado Representative
Lauren Bobert.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And I brought this to your attention because I saw.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
People writing articles about what she wore for her Halloween
costume and I mentioned it to you, and you're like,
that's not real.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Now this started this morning, did it not? So we're
recording now in the afternoon of November four, But weren't
we talking about this pre five am?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But what you didn't know, and maybe what I didn't
tell you, was that her boyfriend showed up and the
two of them together is what made the Halloween.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Costume choice extra offensive.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Okay, I mean it would have been offensive on its own,
but it was an added layer with the boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And so when you saw the whole thing, you said,
this isn't real.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
No, No, I actually skip I'll be honest. I skipped
over the story when I initially saw it because I
saw her standing there and whatever she was in. I
just saw the headline and I kept moving on. Whatever
like it, don't like it, feel like it's the most
racist thing ever, or Okay, it's just what some people
do now and let's move on. I just kept rolling,
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didn't even skip a beat. And you seem surprised when
I said.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Nah, yeah, because this seems like a story right up
your alley. It's interesting, it's it's provocative, and it's also
head scratching. Because should we tell the listeners what the
cosme was, okay first, so that they can get a
whole feel of this.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But I want you to go through. Let's start with
this Beaubert Lauren Bobert, who has done Bolbert, excuse me, Bobert,
who has done some things and been caught up in
some scandals and whatever, who has stepped in it before
I see her controversy in the headline, wearing some I
think they called it racially charged Halloween costume. I glanced
(02:24):
by the photo. She's wearing a sombrero and a Mexican dress.
I move on, and a short time ago you stopped
me and explained the rest. See.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So, yes, she did have a sombrero. She did have
a Mexican dress on. She also had a sign with
her that said Mexican word of the day, juicy, Tell
me if juicy ice coming.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, I didn't see that part.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I tried not to do.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
That with any sort of Hispanic accent because that would
have seemed very, very very importaste. But if you do
it with it, you can see it actually is saying
tell me if you see ice coming, right, but with
a very offensive Hispanic accent. Now, on top of that,
her boyfriend, her date to this Halloween party, was an
ice agent.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So a complete mockery of a.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Very serious and frankly devastating situation in our country.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Right now, I missed. I missed the detail about the
date being dressed as a as an ice agent and
a sigh.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Again, this was a party in Littleton, Colorado.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay, you saw some other photos. Did it seem like
anyone else was uncomfortable? Did she seem to be mingling
taking pictures with people. The whole shit.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
She seemed to be mingling. She seemed to be taking
pictures with people. There are they they are with one
other person smiling. But reportedly the pictures surfaced or came
out because someone at the party reportedly was so offended
by what they saw that they took the pictures and
then gave them to I believe the Denver Post, the
(03:57):
local newspaper, and that is the outlet that first published
these photos.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I'm gonna be honest with you still, as we sit here,
I'm having some doubt, Like I've seen the pictures, wondering
if they could have been doctored where they came from.
Who would have done something like this if it's possible.
I am being straight with you, doll. When I as
I'm sitting here, I am like, ugh, maybe maybe we
should hold off, because I have a hard time believing
(04:25):
that somebody would walk out.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Of the house in that not just somebody.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Member of Congress. I'm still struggling with that. Look. We've
seen a of offensive outfits and Halloween costumes here and
there this, and some people go, oh, I made a
mistake or I didn't consider or would have done it differently.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
She is a third term congress woman from Colorado's fourth district.
She knows what she's doing, and she knows the attention
she's getting. And how about this if you want to
be convinced that this was a choice.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
She has an official response.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
At least her office has responded to media requests. ABC
News reported this the Denver Post. It's a Halloween costume.
Tell our senators to vote for the cr and open
the government. They are choosing to let millions of American
families suffer end quote.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That can't be real.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
That is her official statement. We sure in response to
the Halloween costume controversy, We.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Sure that really came from her.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, I think you still were thinking that for quite
some time, until we googled her name and realize that
this is just the latest in a string of controversies
that has followed her or she, I don't know is
created and it's quite remarkable.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
But given some of the ones we've we've known about
in the past, this still I'm having a difficult I
know you were. I was for the longest I was
not convinced. I kept I was being dismissive of you.
Almost you were.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I was like babe, this isn't made up.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
The baby being aied, somebody's fooling you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You actually had me zoom in on the picture to
see if you could see if it was photoshopped.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's how much you did not believe that this was real.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I just, even given what we have seen in some
of the controversies and scandals that even that some of
her own party she has rubbed the wrong way with
some of these things. Even given all that, I just wrote,
that's what's the sign. The sign she had well.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Has Mexican word of the day, juicy. Tell me if
Juicy Ice coming, that's terrible. I don't one the person
who took the pictures reportedly is the one who said
it was disgusting, disgusting behavior and people were not laughing.
They didn't think it was funny. Obviously it's not. But
(06:59):
it is remarkable that a member of Congress would choose
that outfit and know she was going to be photographed
and pose for photographs, knowing that she represents a district
that is fourteen percent Hispanic.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
It's I don't know how you apologize for that one.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
She hasn't.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I don't know how. It's a costume it's a Halloween costume.
There's something. There's got to be a humanity in it all.
There's gotta be an ounce of I mean, empathy for
your for a human being, no matter what. And I
can't imagine that kind of intentional slight to a culture.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It is hard to get your head around.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But I don't think she thought it was just funny.
There's gotta be a reason. There's got to be a constituency.
There's got to be something. There's got to be somethingting
in somebody she's playing to think this is okay.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, there were some responses just to get an idea
about how people in that community, in the Latino community
felt about what she did. The president of the Latino
Coalition in Colorado told this to the Denver Post. She
should be ashamed of herself. Though I believe she is
incapable of any emotion that generates human decency. Her bigotry
(08:20):
and ignorance are clearly evident in her chosen apparel this day,
and then State Senator Julie Gonzalez, who was also the
co chair of the Colorado Democratic Latino Caucus, said she well,
she asked Bobert to apologize and said she should know
that our culture is not a costume and being bilingual
is an.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Asset, not a joke. I thought that was really well
well put.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
They have to be fuming, and I would like to,
you know, maybe she'll say nothing. I don't know what
to explain. I don't know what I need to hear
to relax a little bit about what you feel when
you see something like this, and you know, I'm always
this way and even in this one like to hear
something from her. I would like to. I just I
(09:05):
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
What's so interesting though, because we actually did a bit
of a deep dive on her and to consider where
she came from, and she's talked about this publicly, about
her story, how she was uprooted from Florida to the
state of Colorado, how her family was on welfare, how
she did not live an opulent life. She had a
(09:29):
tough life, and she talked about going through that. So
it's just interesting someone who's had that kind of a upbringing.
She actually dropped out of high school because she got pregnant,
and she got her ged I believe, just a few
years ago before she was elected into office, so she
knows what it's like to struggle. She knows what it's
(09:49):
like to feel marginalized in some ways. So it's so
interesting to me that she can't acknowledge or understand how
what she's choosing to do to laugh fat or to
make a joke or mockery of is actually incredibly painful.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Imagining the difficulty she must have had in her life.
I think you almost want to stand up and applaud
when you hear that. And to think that woman made
it to Congress, raised four boys, made it to Congress
and is in a third term. That should be celebrated.
Her background that should be highlighted and focused and talked
(10:24):
about and looked at. And but why the opportunity she's
had to be that? Look, I'm sure, I mean, she's
getting elected. They must like her, somebody does, and she's
doing her thing, and whatever she's doing is working out there.
So who the hell are we to talk or criticize
a Halloween costume? But we just mentioned a moment ago.
This was not the first of her controversy. She had
(10:44):
said some pretty controversial things in the past, and she
has directed a lot of her comments toward her own
her own fellow members of Congress, including accusing one of
carrying a pimp cane and the other one of carrying
a suicide bomb. Stay with us, we continue now. I'm
(11:14):
starting ropes to get a little convinced that maybe this
thing about Lauren Berbert Bobert, Congresswoman Lauren Bobert is is real.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
That's good to hear.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Okay, I'm coming around. Maybe by the end of this
episode I will be on board. But yeah, the outfit
she wore dress and Mexican garb, wearing a sombrero. Her
date is dressed as an ice agent and a really
offensive message hanging around her neck. Rose you look is
we haven't necessarily laughed in the first part of this episode.
(11:47):
We're gonna be honest. We were looking up some of
the stuff she has said and been accused of in
the past and her response to it. It's almost just
it's jaw dropping, but it makes your giggle, like are
you kidding?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's well, you're laughing because you're laughing in absolute horror
and you just can't believe what you're reading. And so
you were reading article and I was reading an article,
and you'd be like what, and it's just it's that
it's it's so offensive. Then you realize she has a
(12:18):
history of doing this, and sometimes she apologizes and sometimes
she doubles down, and it looks like this time she's
laughing it off. But she doesn't have any real accountability
for some pretty horrific things.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
She said.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Did she ever a bucket? Does she I don't have
it up? Does she apologize with the pimp kne She
did not.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
She doubled down. Okay, so we'll start with a double down.
This is Representative Al Green.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
He was.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
He gave that fiery speech in the halls of Congress,
and he had that cane.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Oh no, this is what he was interrupting Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh, this is when President Trump was addressing Congress. He
stood up, started yelling at Trump, and eventually he had
to be escorted out correc So, Texas.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yes, So she was giving an interview shortly thereafter, and
she spoke of Green. She said, she said for him
to go and shake his pimp cane at President Trump
was absolutely imbhorrent.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Don't hear that a lot in Congress? She said, They
remember of Congress said a pimpkin.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yes, and it was a black member of Congress to
be very specific.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Are, by the way, yes, Al Green.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Pretty black name. I say that because you think about
Al Green. There's one guy you think of when you
hear Al Green.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
The singer.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yes, the singer and very smooth.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
But in fact, when we when we were talking about
this and you said his name, I was like, wait,
is that the right name?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Isn't that the singer? I got really confused. It's funny
you point that out.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
And shaking a Pimpcine? Now she had an opportunity? Did
she not to correct? To apologize about this?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Correct? So the first time she was asked, she said,
I stand by what I said.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
The first time. There's more than one yes.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And then she was she was she was on another
show and they asked specifically about what she said, and
she said, look, if that gold plated Kane isn't a Pimpcaine,
I don't know what is Okay, So that is doubling down.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
She tripled. She had two opportunities down.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yes, I stand by what I said.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Okay, when you said the last one, that's.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Just so well, then you start laughing. It's comical because
it's so offensive. You actually don't know what else to do.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I mean, the words, should we be that offended? That
upset about it. I don't know. No, you don't want
your members of Congress hurling insults like that, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And generalizations and offensive stereotypical.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Comments and that imagery. We know what that conjures up
when you say something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yes, So that was in March of this past year.
But before that, there was her beef with ilhan.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Omar to say gold plated pimp.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
She said, gold plated Kane isn't a Pimpcane. I don't
know what is.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Sorry, Yes, she said that, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
So with ilhan Omar, she was giving a speech, correct.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Bobert, No, she was recalling a story.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yes, yes, So she was giving a speech and she
had a crowd full of folks and she told this
story about her time in Congress. She said, I'm quoting her.
So the other night on the House floor was not
my first jihad squad moment. I was getting into an
elevator with one of my staffers, and he and I
were leaving the Capitol. We're going back to my office
(15:34):
and we get in the elevator and I see a
Capitol police officer running hurriedly.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
To the elevator.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I see fred all over his face and he's reaching
the door shutting.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I can't open it. What's happening.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I looked to my left and there she is Ilhan
Omar and I said, well, she doesn't have a backpack.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
We should be fine. And the crowd laughed.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yes, she was telling it to a fundraising crowd. It
was some group of friendly faces. So yes, she was
being comedic. She was holding court, so to speak, telling
a story and the folks were laughing.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And that got support from the crowd. Yes, okay, I
didn't know that detail.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yes, and so yeah and then yeah, so she just
said and she just went on to then belittle her
and say, so we only had one floor to go.
And I say, do I say it or do I not?
And I look over and I say, look, the Jihad
squad decided to show up for work today. She actually
said that to her face.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
And then she.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Told the group she was speaking to, don't worry. It's
just her staffers on Twitter that talk for her. She's
not tough in person.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And Representative Omar I actually refuted at that door. She said,
we never ever got on an elevator together, and this
never happened, you know what. A represent of Omar had
a good line I'm gonna mess it up a little bit,
but this is almost verbatim. She said, it's a shame
that Congresswoman Bobert thinks that biggest street, big tree will
get you clapped.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yes, I did see that. Yes I did.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yes, And we've actually had Representative Omar, we've actually interviewed her.
She's been very you know, you can agree with her
or disagree with her. Been very level headed. She's not
one to continue a fight. Certainly, even if it was
pushed on her or put upon her, she handled it very.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
She's a lot of classes.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
She said. They got on the phone after this whole incident,
said it went terribly and she said she had to
get off the phone because it wasn't productive. She said,
you didn't give it an apology. That was her statement,
at least represent of Omar. But I know these are
tough she had. This is somebody keeps getting elected. And look,
some people look at this like people were making too
(17:42):
big of a deal out of it. Eh, maybe you
can certainly feel that way. I just I felt a
certain way and just struggled. I did. It was so
great there that I truly.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Did not believe you this day and age in fact.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I remember the Monday after Halloween, I was thinking to myself, Oh,
I didn't read about any Halloween costume mishaps.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Over the years.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Too many people have made too many bad choices appropriating
other people's cultures whatever, They offend people in some way,
and I hadn't heard of one, and I was like,
oh wow. And I remember thinking, this is one of
those rare Halloweens where no one put on a stupid
Halloween costume that got them in trouble.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
But haven't we seen some ignorance, some oops, some genuine
miscalculations and outfits before, and people have had to apologize,
And like, I didn't know, we've seen some stuff around
Halloween or elsewhere. This was you can't. I can't that
you had to put out a chalkboard and write it
(18:48):
out there that yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And there have been enough of the other more subtle
problems that people have run into where it feels like
this was a choice.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Again that plenty of people may be listening that go, guys,
that's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Costume.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
It's a Halloween costume. What's the big deal? Get over it.
We got to shut down. We got bigger problems, sure.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I mean, look, I think that that's fine if you're
a private citizen, but when you represent a district and
you're elected and you're there to represent everybody, that is
highly offensive and certainly not inclusive, and that's a kind
way of putting her choice.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
There is no way to argue with that, and with that,
folks always appreciate you spend some time with us. I'm TJ. Holmes,
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