November 5, 2025 • 28 mins
It doesn't seem possible. "All's Fair" -- the new Kim Kardashian-led Hulu drama -- has a 0% rating on Rotten Tomatoes and is being universally panned. Huh? The show stars Glenn Close, Sarah Paulson, Naomi Watts, Niecy Nash-Betts and is written by Ryan Murphy. How can a show with those folks be as bad as they say? We watched. We get it. And we also love it.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey there, folks. It is Wednesday, November the fifth, and
we have never seen reviews for a TV show this
universally and overwhelmingly bad. The show we're talking about is
Kim Kardashian's new show on Hulu. It's called All's Fair.
The reviews are so bad that we just had to watch.
(00:25):
And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Roobes.
We see a lot of reviews from movies and shows
and whatnot, and look, people have their different opinions. There
was a consensus not just that this isn't a quality show,
that was a consensus of this might be one of
the worst shows, not just of the year, but of
all time. I was surprised to see this.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So as I especially when you look at the cast.
This is a power house cast. I mean, Kim Kardashian
isn't known for her acting skills, but you've got Sarah Paulson,
an Emmy winner, Glenn Close, an Emmy winner, an oscaree,
Nissi Nash, an Emmy winner, Naomi Watts, an Oscar nominee,
Tianna Taylor, and the writer Ryan Murphy.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So it's hard to imagine that it could be that bad.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You say you just said that. Kim kardashi is not
known for her acting chops, but she's known that everything
she touches sterns to goal. This is a I was
initially excited about the show, say, oh, I gotta check
this out because Kim Kardashian doesn't mess around. She is
a savvy and wildly successful businesswoman. I own some of
the underwear from Skims. It's quality stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I bought them for you because I too love Skims.
I think they're amazing, and you're right. Everything she does
touches or everything she turns, I can't touch.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It turns the goal. But correct tie in that with
this cast, I was curious. I'm oh, this is gonna
be bad ass.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And when you put on this is in Hulu, right
when you turn on Hulu, it is the first thing
you see, so it is being advertised. It looks exciting, bright, shiny,
it's about female empowerment.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Who wouldn't want to watch?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I don't think we would have. It wasn't on our
slate necessarily and make a schedule to see it. But
I was like, I assume, especially the cas is gonna
be great. We didn't get interested and say oh, hell yeah,
we have to watch this immediately until we looked it
up and saw reviews. And how is it possible a
show with these folks and Ryan Murphy could possibly be bad?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And if you don't know who Ryan Murphy is, obviously
you know his work, even if you don't know his name. Glee,
that's just a little show that pretty much if you
have a child under the age of twenty, you had
that playing in your home, NonStop American horror story and
you can see some of the connections. Sarah Paulson has
been his darling throughout that series. But that I have
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watched several seasons of that. It is well done. It
is a brilliant piece of television.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
He's hot. Everybody knows this. He doesn't nuss around. So
how did we end up here? And folks, we're not
just we will go through the just the headlines. I'm
shocked at some of these. But if you're not up
on what the show is, first of all, it's been
promoted quite a bit. And again if you turn on
Hulu at all, you see them up there, these fabulously
dressed and accomplished actors, actresses and just badasses in the industry.
(03:23):
It has to get your attention. Now, what is the
show supposed to be about? This is how they describe it,
at least the synopsis. A team of female divorce attorneys
leave a male dominated firm to open their own powerhouse practice.
That sounds good already, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I'm in.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Fierce, brilliant, and emotionally complicated. They navigate high stakes breakups,
scandalous secrets, and shifting allegiances, both in the courtroom and
within their own ranks. In a world where money talks
and love is a battleground, these women don't just play
the game, they change it all in. That's a great
write up. It is with this cast that sounds perfect.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I'm in until you watch it.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Well, I started this is. We like to stay away
from reviews sometimes because we don't want to be tainted,
but for sure the reviews had us wanting to watch
this show now. Rotten Tomatoes. I actually asked you this morning.
I said, do they is Rotten Tomatoes big for TV
shows as it is for movies. I know people use
Rotten Tomato scores in advertisement. We have a Rotten Tomato
(04:25):
score and I thought that was just movies. You said,
this is for TV shows as well.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I've definitely seen it for series and looked up like
big series.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
They certainly rate it, they have reviews all of that.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So, yes, it is still considered a go to in
terms of do most critics like this show? Do most
audience members like the show? You can go to Rotten
Tomatoes for TV series as well.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Just as legit, right, this is what you were telling. Yes,
so I didn't even know this was possible necessarily when
we saw the critic score on Rotten Tomatoes. Again, the
show has three episodes that are out now that you
can check out. It's a ten episode series. The critics
don't seem to like it. Roams.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Rotten Tomato score is zero percent.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Didn't know it's possible. I didn't know. You how do
you even do that?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well, we watched three episodes. I can tell you how
you do it?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Okay, Well, the audience score, to be honest with you,
I was a little surprised it was as high as
it was.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yes, the audience score is fifty four percent.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And so typically I've joked when we did our whole
Halloween horror hit list series, I oftentimes look at it
as Woho, I'm gonna love this when I see the
critics hate it and the audience loved it, because sometimes
you're just wondering whether or not the critics take something
too seriously or looking for something deeper or meaningful, when
actually I just wanted to have fun.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
So I was all in to watch this with you and.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Actually was expecting to like it more despite the critics
write ups on it, and my job was dropped. I
think for all three episodes throughout for different reasons, I
couldn't believe what I was watching and what I was
hearing and what I was witnessing.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And again people talk about sometimes hate watching things it's
so bad it's good kind of a thing. This didn't
come off like that. Look, we gonna share what other
folks saying, this is not. We are not movie critics,
we're not TV critics. We're not trained to do that,
we are not paid to do that. All we are
is audience members. We're viewers, we're watchers, we are consumers
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of this stuff, and we are in no place. Is
not our place. We are not going to criticize a
line that Ryan Murphy wrote for this drama. This is
not our place. Not going to criticize any acting that
anybody did. All we could do is tell you what
we saw and tell you what other people said. So
let's just start with the headlines. We're not even gonna
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get into the details. This is strictly the headlines robe.
Kim Kardashian's divorce drama is fascinatingly existentially terrible. Another abysmal
Kim Kardashian led legal drama might be Ryan Murphy's worst show.
Yet another Kim kardashians All's Fair is the worst show
of the year. Another this may be the worst TV
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drama ever.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
They go on.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Kim kardashians All's Fair may be the worst new streaming
show of twenty twenty five. Kim Kardashian's new legal drama
is a crime against television. Kim Kardashian's legal drama All's
Fair is a clumsy, condescending girl Boss Fantasia. And then finally,
Kim Kardashian is an appropriately wooden lead for Ryan Murphy's empty,
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unforgivably dull Hulu drama.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
These aren't mad or so, so this is a consensus
slamming this thing not just as being a C or
even a D, but like an F minus.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Like people are offended how bad it is.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I couldn't believe, so of course you read that. I came.
I immediately picked.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Up you, ran into the room and said, Babe, I've
got the next thing we have to watch. And when
I say the next thing, I mean right now. We're
turning this on.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And we binged all three of the episodes that were available,
and I was upset there weren't more to watch more
because we wanted more.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And I want to ask you what was And I
know you said you.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Aren't a review or a critic, so to speak, but
what was your impression after watching it for the first
five minutes?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Confusion? I was confused about what I was supposed to
be seeing, what it was supposed to mean, if I
was misinterpreting. I actually went back while we were watching
and looked like, at the synopsis or the category, is this?
Is it a drama? Is it a comedy? Is it
a thrill? At what? I didn't know what I was seeing,
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And I didn't know if it was supposed to be
kind of campy, it was supposed to be a parody
of something, or if I was supposed to take what
I'm seeing seriously. I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, because it's so over the top, from what the
women are wearing, to the lines that they say and give,
to the repeated male bashing, to the girl power. I
was cringing and thinking to myself, how is it possible
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that this talented group of people continued delivering these lines
wearing the clothing that they're wearing in the over the
top setting they're in. I was shocked that they were
all on board with it because it felt so ridiculous
that I too, thought maybe if this were deliberately campy,
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I would understand it.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
If this were deliberately I don't even know what.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You said ridiculous, but I thought I might have been
missing the point that it was supposed to be. I
was researching, I was watching the show because I thought
I was missing something to the over the top nature
of it. Is that what it's supposed to be. Am
I supposed to be taking a message, a deeper message,
or I'm supposed to just be sitting here relieved that
I'm not having to hear about the shutdown for a second.
(10:15):
Is this just a fantasy world I'm supposed to enter
to get me away from this real world that's annoying?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
The hell it is a fantasy world.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
There is no scenario in which what I saw in
those three episode could actually exist in real life.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
All right, So we read all these negative reviews and
then this one is the one that was relevant and
brought it all home. A review said this quote, all's fair.
Bad reviews are making it a must watch. It became
must watch television for us. Now we talked about how
negative this was on Rotten Tomatoes, so I included positive
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audience reviews, and this maybe brings it home. Somebody said
show is fun and a great watch. Don't understand the
bad reviews at all. Clearly delusional haters. Is that some
of that? Is this some Kim Kardashian hate going towards her?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Nope, no, I do not agree with that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Another one saying so over the top, it's ridiculous, and
this is why I enjoyed it. I get that. That
makes sense. Honestly. The show's kind of good. It's interesting,
visually dazzling, campy, and current. It almost feels like a
modern and lighter interpretation of Nip Tuck through the setting
of a law.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Firm that is exceptionally kind kind.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I didn't watch Nip Talk as you.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Want that one, No, but it was critically acclaimed.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, here's another. I think it's fresh. It has the drama,
the comedy, and the rich life that most of us
will never have. Perfect show to just relax and enjoy
a break from normal life. Is that?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Is that the last line I can get?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And look, we are going to keep watching it because wait,
it is so because I can't believe what I'm watching
and if it's if that's the draw in and of itself, bravo.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But I just I found myself again. My jaw was
actually dropped.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I'm not just speaking in a term like I couldn't
believe what I was watching to the point where I
want to keep watching.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
All right, This is just a light, silly and visually
stunning show reminds me of a classic primetime soap from
back in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, I totally agree with that Dynasty. It's almost like
a telenovela for modern day women, where it is a
soap opera fantasy over the top. Come on, nobody could
possibly dressed like that, where those diamonds every day have
that type of airbrushing.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
On your face.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I mean it's it's you can't stop watching it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
You sound like you get it now. In a way,
it sounds like when that reference was made to it
primetime soap in the eighties, like oh okay.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But was that the intention?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I would love to hear from Ryan Murphy. I would
love to hear from any of these actors about what
they want people to take away. Is this to be
taken seriously? Was this meant to be some girl power?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yes, there were a time they had a press. I
wasn't a junket, but it was some precevent They were
all together and they yelled out that it was aspirational,
that it was meant to be aspirational. I'm pretty sure
that was the word they several of them repeated it.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
How did you feel about all the male bashing because
it was a constant like all men are dogs, all
men are assholes, all men cheat, all men try to
take all the money for themselves, all men make nasty
jokes about women. I mean it really just it hit
every stereotypical negative idea you could have about a man,
and it was on repeat.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, and a lot of women listening right now as
you were going through that, going.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Check check check, they feel validated.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Check yep. Men. That's where they are and that's what
they do.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Now, it's a show created by men about women.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
However, there are some of the reviews that'll get into
that suggests some man of the executive producers, though, were women,
and the women who are part of this, including Chris Jenner.
I did see they say she has her stamp. There's
someone in here, and we'll get to that. Wrote that
Ryan Murphy has been Cardashiana five or something. I did
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see that, whatever that line was, But to say that
more of the influence is not his writing and his vision,
but it's coming from Chris Jenner on that this is
definitely a women's show. So men, leave your opinions out.
Kim you eight, that's an audience review, And when I
read that one, I went back and sure enough a
lot of the one star, half star, zero star were
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for men going off pretty angrily about it. Now some
of the audience reviews.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Does that make sense, Yes, But I still think it
was kind of offensive to women too, because it was
very stereotypical on all parts, like for men and for women.
It just felt like all aging women think about is
what they look like, how much filler they have, how
to dress a certain way, and look, there's an element
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of that in all of us, but it just seemed
like hyper focused on wealth and beauty AKA the Kardashians.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You, oh man, you're hitting all these points. Okay, So
we just gave you the headlines. We're going to read
some actual excerpts from you when we come back, and
you have to hear how people actually break down. I
don't think they're being mean. And some of these reviews,
these are professional critics who are giving their assessment of
what we are seeing on the new and I'm going
to say going to be hit show on Hulu. All's Fair.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Stay here, continue our conversation now on All's Fair. And
this is truly a juicy conversation because people have so
many opinions about this show, most of them negative. Again
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zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes. This is Hulu's new hit show,
Kim Kardashian's legal drama about female empowerment, and certainly it's campy.
We watched the three episodes that are out and you
won't want to stop watching, even if it is to
gawk at the show itself. But look, I'm willing to say, hey,
and even these critics who are all I agree with
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most of what they have to say, and we'll go
through their pretty remarkable reviews.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
But maybe this is the brilliance of the Kardashians.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
They know how to get people talking, they know how
to rile people up, they know how to make a mark.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Maybe they also know what people want because they are
very much a part of putting the show together. And
there are comparisons being made to keeping up with the
Kardashians their reality show. It feels that way in a
lot of ways of what you're watching some of the
excerpts from front some of the reviewers, and look, these
are I don't know if you're going to have much
of a problem with any of these ropes. I don't
think they were necessarily mean. But let's start here with
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with one. Not even Glenn Close can save this Ryan
Murphy disaster from its dismal plots, clueless characters, and the
worst kissing scenes ever filmed. There were some awkward moments.
Percent another one say I did not know what was
possible to make television this bad. I assumed that there
was some sort of baseline, some inescapable betrock knowledge of
how to do it, and that now prevents any entry
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into the art form from falling below a certain standard.
But I was wrong. I said this is like a
baseline for television producing that they didn't even hit.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I would say this, it's shockingly bad. Now if it's
deliberately campy, couldn't the intention have been somewhere in between?
I mean, they didn't obviously want to make something bad
or poorly reviewed.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Do we have to know the intention to just sit
here and go wow?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I mean wow, is what I say. Nissi Nash bets
is in here as well. A lot of you oll noah.
We obviously love her and will never have anything negative
to say about her. We love her even on a
personal level. But she is arguably the best performer, the
most entertaining of in the bunch. She has her moments.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
My takeaway was thank God for Nisi Nash.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
She has her moments, she has the only moments, And
you could argue in some ways, but this reviewer saying
Nash and unstoppable on screen force fares better in a
role where the comic intent suits her well. But how
parts for black women are still being written as nothing
more than loud and sassy. I do not know that's true?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, and then goes on to say so bad, it's
not good.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And the other only black role in there was for
someone who was a side piece.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that that matters. That absolutely matters.
There are some other pretty remarkable reviews here that we'll
read for you surrounding her. They're talking about Kim Kardashian
with powerhouses like Glenn Close, Naomi Watts, Nissi Nash Bets,
Sarah Paulson, and Tiana Taylor, only makes her weakness as
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an actor more apparent. But Kardashian's performance, stiff and effectless
without a single authentic note, is exactly what the writing. Also,
stiff and effectless without a single authentic note, merits her
very presence, which six it's a generating buzz and not
much else. Feels fitting for a show that seems to
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want not to be watched so much as mined for
viral bits and pieces.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
That was an interesting way to put it. And then
I saw another review saying it doesn't even do a
good job of that. Trying to find things to pluck
out that could be viral, that could be memes, that
could be cool, they're not there either.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yes, some of the one liners it was cringey. They
were very cringey and bitchy one liners, I believe, is
how one of the reviewers put it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And that's the next line here. The show is to
serve fierce looks, bitchy one liners, and big, juicy moments
with severely mixed results. Cheerfully unconcerned with any notion of
what lawyers might wear to work, costume designer Paula Bradley
creates her own fantasy version of office wear, involving jewel
tone hats and gloves, diamonds, the size of baseballs, and
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enormous displays of cleavage. The outfits may not always be
chic or even pretty, but as modeled by red carpet
pros like Kardashian, Nash Bets or Tailor, they do exactly
what they're intended to do, which is make you stop
and stare boom.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
There are many times throughout the evening where you said,
what is she wearing?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Because I'm in all but I don't think anything is ugly.
It's just over the top, even how they're lounging around
the house sometimes and things that are red carpet worthy, yes,
stand out to a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
This one, I actually this next review I had to
actually completely agree with. So All's Fair is a clumsy,
condescending take on raw raw girl boss feminism, half baked
even by the standards of an over extended Murphy. It's
true that the tone is intentionally camp adjacent, and if
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one squints, they could discern the vague outlines of a parody.
But that's little consolation when All's Fair demonstrates such a
low opinion of its viewers. Assuming will bark like seals
when fed disconnected scrap of sassy one liners, flashy outfits
and men ain't shit commiseration.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, that's the whole That is it. That's the whole show,
and all the episodes we see. Every new case they
get is the same thing. A woman, Mary's a really
rich guy. He treats her very poorly, and she comes
in and they wrap up the case in like five minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Man, they are like, they kill it.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
They nail it every time they show up, these stupid, silly,
egotistical men, and they show them who's in charge every time.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And look, there's something to that. Do we not have
enough of that on television? You can make those arguments.
I'm not trying to get that deep into it, and
a lot of people did. It's a show that I
don't know why, and I can't explain why this is
me a show cast full of women in which it's
meant to just bash men. I can't wait for the
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next episode that means you did something right and putting
the show together because I'm running to the TV, I guess.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
But I do like this. I like this one.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It all feels icky, like an orgy of vulgarity, where
greed rules, love means nothing, and we're somehow being forced
to feel we should all want to revel in this
world too.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It is this is you want this, and it's when
you step back and look at it and go, wow,
this is ugh that's right. Ikey is a good word.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Who This was Glamour, Yeah, and that's a female forward
magazine obviously and certainly would embrace female empowerment. That's not
what this felt like. And I just it's puzzling to me.
And yet I'll be back for episode four. The moment
it drops.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
About Ryan Murphy, here is the Kardashianified said he's drunk,
the Chris Jenner kool aid, and the Murphy cinematic universe
has been infected by this so called aspirational lifestyle. The
Kardashians dictate we should all be conforming to aspire to, which,
in other words, translate as behaving like a billionaire. Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yes, wow, I also do worry about Look, this might
just be me taking it too far, but I've got
young girls who watch the Kardashians, and you see all
of these and not that my girls, if would ever
partake in any of this, but like the Fillers, we
see young girls getting lip flips and botox in their
twenties and all this stuff and wanting to buy the
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expense of this and live a certain way and feel
her almost entitled or should be able to live a
certain lifestyle and lay around in silk pajamas drinking red
wine talking about how horrible men are. But I just
I don't know, it's a little concerning what maybe even
younger women take.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Away from a show like this.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well, why can we just it's just a show, It's
just entertainment, it's just fantasy.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
The impact and the influence of the Kardashians on a
young female culture cannot be denied.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Okay, no, no, no, no, that's but I'm saying it was
there before I ever saw her as a lawyer on
the show.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Correct, But now it's almost being glamorized in a different way,
in a stylized way. I don't watch the Kardashians, but
this seems to be a scripted version of it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Not that a scripted version, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And and I don't know if they're putting it out
as aspirational.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
That's disturbing to me.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Someone here said in another review that it feels more
like a series of Instagram boasts. That's all we're.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Seeing, flossing, flexing. Yes, she even at one point, Kim
Kardashian's character dresses in all yellow like Beyonce's lemonade and
bashes the car. I mean, yes, it almost looks like
a music video.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
This one is the This is the only I got
a little not quite mean, but a little mean, a
little personal, I should say. Someone said, again, these are
professional critic reviews we're talking about. Now, well done, Kim.
You must have healthy Excuse me, you must have quite
a healthy ego yourself to start in what may well
be the worst television drama ever made. Because All's Fair
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is so bad, it's not even enjoyably so it thinks
it's a feminist fable about spirited lawyers getting their own
back on cruel rich men, but is in fact a
tacky and revolting monument to the same greed, vanity and avarice.
It's supposedly targ.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Wow, that is so true.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Like so women becoming like the men they're saying they
hate is something to be valued or aspire to, which
is disturbing. Also, can I point out and I love
Sarah Paulson. I love her as a human, I love
her as an actress, but I cannot stand the character
they've created for her, this adversary and it's women fighting
women and the cat fighting and the mean, spirited, horrific,
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vulgar language that comes out of Paulson's mouth and her
character is it's supposed to be funny, cute, empowering, cool,
but they're acting like men. And I don't mean to
say that, like adding to the stereotype.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Of it all, but that is such a good.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Point, cold, ruthless, vulgar. These are I guess attributes least,
when you talk about men in the office are things
that behavior needs to stop and needs to get out
of the office. They embrace it at times and to
a point, look Sarah Pouls and some of the stuff
they give her as ridiculous. She delivers some moments just
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because she's fricking Sarah Pauls.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, she's an amazing action.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's incredible, and she knocks it out of the park
on some things. But I can't imagine some of the
lines she has that she's able to do what she
did with them.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
You put one of them in here that I don't
think I can read. Uh, I will do you want
me to? I think just to give people an idea,
because there isn't really a curse word in here, right,
it's just disgusting.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
But yeah, but she has several we just to give
you do it, But I just give an idea. She
has several, like over the tops unnecessarily.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Seaword is used to constant.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
In combination with Burger at one point.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yes, and I'm just like, ooh, I didn't need to
hear that while I'm making dinner, Like literally we were
making dinner and hearing Sea Burger was a little much
for me.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
But maybe that's just me.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
But she's describing about whether or not she would represent
Kim Kardashian's character. I wouldn't do that even if I
were penniless and starving on a street corner, forced to
blow a priest with chlamydia for a bowl of refried beans.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I mean, take that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
In specific, it's creative over the top. Some d I'd say,
it's just it's funny and it's creative, right, it's fine,
But it's just that that is an example of the
over the topness then.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But yeah, but that's just one example. There are far
worse examples that we won't repeat here.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
But it's a hit. If it's not yet, it will
be well follow up. I messaged two people yesterday after
we started watching the show and said, you need to
watch this. So it's gonna get around by word of
mouth for whatever reason. But Robes, I cannot wait for
the next episode. I think it comes out next week.
It's three up there now. We're gonna watch those again
today as well.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
All right, stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We will keep you updated on all's fair and what's
going on in the world as well. We always appreciate
you listening to us. I may be Robock alongside TJ.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Holmes.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Have a great day.
Hey there, folks. It is Wednesday, November the fifth, and
we have never seen reviews for a TV show this
universally and overwhelmingly bad. The show we're talking about is
Kim Kardashian's new show on Hulu. It's called All's Fair.
The reviews are so bad that we just had to watch.
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And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Roobes.
We see a lot of reviews from movies and shows
and whatnot, and look, people have their different opinions. There
was a consensus not just that this isn't a quality show,
that was a consensus of this might be one of
the worst shows, not just of the year, but of
all time. I was surprised to see this.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So as I especially when you look at the cast.
This is a power house cast. I mean, Kim Kardashian
isn't known for her acting skills, but you've got Sarah Paulson,
an Emmy winner, Glenn Close, an Emmy winner, an oscaree,
Nissi Nash, an Emmy winner, Naomi Watts, an Oscar nominee,
Tianna Taylor, and the writer Ryan Murphy.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So it's hard to imagine that it could be that bad.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You say you just said that. Kim kardashi is not
known for her acting chops, but she's known that everything
she touches sterns to goal. This is a I was
initially excited about the show, say, oh, I gotta check
this out because Kim Kardashian doesn't mess around. She is
a savvy and wildly successful businesswoman. I own some of
the underwear from Skims. It's quality stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I bought them for you because I too love Skims.
I think they're amazing, and you're right. Everything she does
touches or everything she turns, I can't touch.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It turns the goal. But correct tie in that with
this cast, I was curious. I'm oh, this is gonna
be bad ass.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And when you put on this is in Hulu, right
when you turn on Hulu, it is the first thing
you see, so it is being advertised. It looks exciting, bright, shiny,
it's about female empowerment.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Who wouldn't want to watch?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I don't think we would have. It wasn't on our
slate necessarily and make a schedule to see it. But
I was like, I assume, especially the cas is gonna
be great. We didn't get interested and say oh, hell yeah,
we have to watch this immediately until we looked it
up and saw reviews. And how is it possible a
show with these folks and Ryan Murphy could possibly be bad?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And if you don't know who Ryan Murphy is, obviously
you know his work, even if you don't know his name. Glee,
that's just a little show that pretty much if you
have a child under the age of twenty, you had
that playing in your home, NonStop American horror story and
you can see some of the connections. Sarah Paulson has
been his darling throughout that series. But that I have
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watched several seasons of that. It is well done. It
is a brilliant piece of television.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
He's hot. Everybody knows this. He doesn't nuss around. So
how did we end up here? And folks, we're not
just we will go through the just the headlines. I'm
shocked at some of these. But if you're not up
on what the show is, first of all, it's been
promoted quite a bit. And again if you turn on
Hulu at all, you see them up there, these fabulously
dressed and accomplished actors, actresses and just badasses in the industry.
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It has to get your attention. Now, what is the
show supposed to be about? This is how they describe it,
at least the synopsis. A team of female divorce attorneys
leave a male dominated firm to open their own powerhouse practice.
That sounds good already, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I'm in.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Fierce, brilliant, and emotionally complicated. They navigate high stakes breakups,
scandalous secrets, and shifting allegiances, both in the courtroom and
within their own ranks. In a world where money talks
and love is a battleground, these women don't just play
the game, they change it all in. That's a great
write up. It is with this cast that sounds perfect.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I'm in until you watch it.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Well, I started this is. We like to stay away
from reviews sometimes because we don't want to be tainted,
but for sure the reviews had us wanting to watch
this show now. Rotten Tomatoes. I actually asked you this morning.
I said, do they is Rotten Tomatoes big for TV
shows as it is for movies. I know people use
Rotten Tomato scores in advertisement. We have a Rotten Tomato
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score and I thought that was just movies. You said,
this is for TV shows as well.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I've definitely seen it for series and looked up like
big series.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
They certainly rate it, they have reviews all of that.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So, yes, it is still considered a go to in
terms of do most critics like this show? Do most
audience members like the show? You can go to Rotten
Tomatoes for TV series as well.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Just as legit, right, this is what you were telling. Yes,
so I didn't even know this was possible necessarily when
we saw the critic score on Rotten Tomatoes. Again, the
show has three episodes that are out now that you
can check out. It's a ten episode series. The critics
don't seem to like it. Roams.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Rotten Tomato score is zero percent.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Didn't know it's possible. I didn't know. You how do
you even do that?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well, we watched three episodes. I can tell you how
you do it?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Okay, Well, the audience score, to be honest with you,
I was a little surprised it was as high as
it was.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yes, the audience score is fifty four percent.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And so typically I've joked when we did our whole
Halloween horror hit list series, I oftentimes look at it
as Woho, I'm gonna love this when I see the
critics hate it and the audience loved it, because sometimes
you're just wondering whether or not the critics take something
too seriously or looking for something deeper or meaningful, when
actually I just wanted to have fun.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
So I was all in to watch this with you and.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Actually was expecting to like it more despite the critics
write ups on it, and my job was dropped. I
think for all three episodes throughout for different reasons, I
couldn't believe what I was watching and what I was
hearing and what I was witnessing.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And again people talk about sometimes hate watching things it's
so bad it's good kind of a thing. This didn't
come off like that. Look, we gonna share what other
folks saying, this is not. We are not movie critics,
we're not TV critics. We're not trained to do that,
we are not paid to do that. All we are
is audience members. We're viewers, we're watchers, we are consumers
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of this stuff, and we are in no place. Is
not our place. We are not going to criticize a
line that Ryan Murphy wrote for this drama. This is
not our place. Not going to criticize any acting that
anybody did. All we could do is tell you what
we saw and tell you what other people said. So
let's just start with the headlines. We're not even gonna
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get into the details. This is strictly the headlines robe.
Kim Kardashian's divorce drama is fascinatingly existentially terrible. Another abysmal
Kim Kardashian led legal drama might be Ryan Murphy's worst show.
Yet another Kim kardashians All's Fair is the worst show
of the year. Another this may be the worst TV
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drama ever.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
They go on.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Kim kardashians All's Fair may be the worst new streaming
show of twenty twenty five. Kim Kardashian's new legal drama
is a crime against television. Kim Kardashian's legal drama All's
Fair is a clumsy, condescending girl Boss Fantasia. And then finally,
Kim Kardashian is an appropriately wooden lead for Ryan Murphy's empty,
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unforgivably dull Hulu drama.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
These aren't mad or so, so this is a consensus
slamming this thing not just as being a C or
even a D, but like an F minus.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Like people are offended how bad it is.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I couldn't believe, so of course you read that. I came.
I immediately picked.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Up you, ran into the room and said, Babe, I've
got the next thing we have to watch. And when
I say the next thing, I mean right now. We're
turning this on.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And we binged all three of the episodes that were available,
and I was upset there weren't more to watch more
because we wanted more.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And I want to ask you what was And I
know you said you.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Aren't a review or a critic, so to speak, but
what was your impression after watching it for the first
five minutes?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Confusion? I was confused about what I was supposed to
be seeing, what it was supposed to mean, if I
was misinterpreting. I actually went back while we were watching
and looked like, at the synopsis or the category, is this?
Is it a drama? Is it a comedy? Is it
a thrill? At what? I didn't know what I was seeing,
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And I didn't know if it was supposed to be
kind of campy, it was supposed to be a parody
of something, or if I was supposed to take what
I'm seeing seriously. I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, because it's so over the top, from what the
women are wearing, to the lines that they say and give,
to the repeated male bashing, to the girl power. I
was cringing and thinking to myself, how is it possible
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that this talented group of people continued delivering these lines
wearing the clothing that they're wearing in the over the
top setting they're in. I was shocked that they were
all on board with it because it felt so ridiculous
that I too, thought maybe if this were deliberately campy,
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I would understand it.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
If this were deliberately I don't even know what.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You said ridiculous, but I thought I might have been
missing the point that it was supposed to be. I
was researching, I was watching the show because I thought
I was missing something to the over the top nature
of it. Is that what it's supposed to be. Am
I supposed to be taking a message, a deeper message,
or I'm supposed to just be sitting here relieved that
I'm not having to hear about the shutdown for a second.
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Is this just a fantasy world I'm supposed to enter
to get me away from this real world that's annoying?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
The hell it is a fantasy world.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
There is no scenario in which what I saw in
those three episode could actually exist in real life.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
All right, So we read all these negative reviews and
then this one is the one that was relevant and
brought it all home. A review said this quote, all's fair.
Bad reviews are making it a must watch. It became
must watch television for us. Now we talked about how
negative this was on Rotten Tomatoes, so I included positive
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audience reviews, and this maybe brings it home. Somebody said
show is fun and a great watch. Don't understand the
bad reviews at all. Clearly delusional haters. Is that some
of that? Is this some Kim Kardashian hate going towards her?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Nope, no, I do not agree with that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Another one saying so over the top, it's ridiculous, and
this is why I enjoyed it. I get that. That
makes sense. Honestly. The show's kind of good. It's interesting,
visually dazzling, campy, and current. It almost feels like a
modern and lighter interpretation of Nip Tuck through the setting
of a law.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Firm that is exceptionally kind kind.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I didn't watch Nip Talk as you.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Want that one, No, but it was critically acclaimed.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, here's another. I think it's fresh. It has the drama,
the comedy, and the rich life that most of us
will never have. Perfect show to just relax and enjoy
a break from normal life. Is that?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Is that the last line I can get?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And look, we are going to keep watching it because wait,
it is so because I can't believe what I'm watching
and if it's if that's the draw in and of itself, bravo.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But I just I found myself again. My jaw was
actually dropped.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I'm not just speaking in a term like I couldn't
believe what I was watching to the point where I
want to keep watching.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
All right, This is just a light, silly and visually
stunning show reminds me of a classic primetime soap from
back in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, I totally agree with that Dynasty. It's almost like
a telenovela for modern day women, where it is a
soap opera fantasy over the top. Come on, nobody could
possibly dressed like that, where those diamonds every day have
that type of airbrushing.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
On your face.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I mean it's it's you can't stop watching it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
You sound like you get it now. In a way,
it sounds like when that reference was made to it
primetime soap in the eighties, like oh okay.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But was that the intention?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I would love to hear from Ryan Murphy. I would
love to hear from any of these actors about what
they want people to take away. Is this to be
taken seriously? Was this meant to be some girl power?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yes, there were a time they had a press. I
wasn't a junket, but it was some precevent They were
all together and they yelled out that it was aspirational,
that it was meant to be aspirational. I'm pretty sure
that was the word they several of them repeated it.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
How did you feel about all the male bashing because
it was a constant like all men are dogs, all
men are assholes, all men cheat, all men try to
take all the money for themselves, all men make nasty
jokes about women. I mean it really just it hit
every stereotypical negative idea you could have about a man,
and it was on repeat.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, and a lot of women listening right now as
you were going through that, going.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Check check check, they feel validated.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Check yep. Men. That's where they are and that's what
they do.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Now, it's a show created by men about women.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
However, there are some of the reviews that'll get into
that suggests some man of the executive producers, though, were women,
and the women who are part of this, including Chris Jenner.
I did see they say she has her stamp. There's
someone in here, and we'll get to that. Wrote that
Ryan Murphy has been Cardashiana five or something. I did
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see that, whatever that line was, But to say that
more of the influence is not his writing and his vision,
but it's coming from Chris Jenner on that this is
definitely a women's show. So men, leave your opinions out.
Kim you eight, that's an audience review, And when I
read that one, I went back and sure enough a
lot of the one star, half star, zero star were
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for men going off pretty angrily about it. Now some
of the audience reviews.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Does that make sense, Yes, But I still think it
was kind of offensive to women too, because it was
very stereotypical on all parts, like for men and for women.
It just felt like all aging women think about is
what they look like, how much filler they have, how
to dress a certain way, and look, there's an element
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of that in all of us, but it just seemed
like hyper focused on wealth and beauty AKA the Kardashians.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You, oh man, you're hitting all these points. Okay, So
we just gave you the headlines. We're going to read
some actual excerpts from you when we come back, and
you have to hear how people actually break down. I
don't think they're being mean. And some of these reviews,
these are professional critics who are giving their assessment of
what we are seeing on the new and I'm going
to say going to be hit show on Hulu. All's Fair.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Stay here, continue our conversation now on All's Fair. And
this is truly a juicy conversation because people have so
many opinions about this show, most of them negative. Again
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zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes. This is Hulu's new hit show,
Kim Kardashian's legal drama about female empowerment, and certainly it's campy.
We watched the three episodes that are out and you
won't want to stop watching, even if it is to
gawk at the show itself. But look, I'm willing to say, hey,
and even these critics who are all I agree with
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most of what they have to say, and we'll go
through their pretty remarkable reviews.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
But maybe this is the brilliance of the Kardashians.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
They know how to get people talking, they know how
to rile people up, they know how to make a mark.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Maybe they also know what people want because they are
very much a part of putting the show together. And
there are comparisons being made to keeping up with the
Kardashians their reality show. It feels that way in a
lot of ways of what you're watching some of the
excerpts from front some of the reviewers, and look, these
are I don't know if you're going to have much
of a problem with any of these ropes. I don't
think they were necessarily mean. But let's start here with
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with one. Not even Glenn Close can save this Ryan
Murphy disaster from its dismal plots, clueless characters, and the
worst kissing scenes ever filmed. There were some awkward moments.
Percent another one say I did not know what was
possible to make television this bad. I assumed that there
was some sort of baseline, some inescapable betrock knowledge of
how to do it, and that now prevents any entry
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into the art form from falling below a certain standard.
But I was wrong. I said this is like a
baseline for television producing that they didn't even hit.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I would say this, it's shockingly bad. Now if it's
deliberately campy, couldn't the intention have been somewhere in between?
I mean, they didn't obviously want to make something bad
or poorly reviewed.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Do we have to know the intention to just sit
here and go wow?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I mean wow, is what I say. Nissi Nash bets
is in here as well. A lot of you oll noah.
We obviously love her and will never have anything negative
to say about her. We love her even on a
personal level. But she is arguably the best performer, the
most entertaining of in the bunch. She has her moments.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
My takeaway was thank God for Nisi Nash.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
She has her moments, she has the only moments, And
you could argue in some ways, but this reviewer saying
Nash and unstoppable on screen force fares better in a
role where the comic intent suits her well. But how
parts for black women are still being written as nothing
more than loud and sassy. I do not know that's true?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, and then goes on to say so bad, it's
not good.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And the other only black role in there was for
someone who was a side piece.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that that matters. That absolutely matters.
There are some other pretty remarkable reviews here that we'll
read for you surrounding her. They're talking about Kim Kardashian
with powerhouses like Glenn Close, Naomi Watts, Nissi Nash Bets,
Sarah Paulson, and Tiana Taylor, only makes her weakness as
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an actor more apparent. But Kardashian's performance, stiff and effectless
without a single authentic note, is exactly what the writing. Also,
stiff and effectless without a single authentic note, merits her
very presence, which six it's a generating buzz and not
much else. Feels fitting for a show that seems to
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want not to be watched so much as mined for
viral bits and pieces.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
That was an interesting way to put it. And then
I saw another review saying it doesn't even do a
good job of that. Trying to find things to pluck
out that could be viral, that could be memes, that
could be cool, they're not there either.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yes, some of the one liners it was cringey. They
were very cringey and bitchy one liners, I believe, is
how one of the reviewers put it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And that's the next line here. The show is to
serve fierce looks, bitchy one liners, and big, juicy moments
with severely mixed results. Cheerfully unconcerned with any notion of
what lawyers might wear to work, costume designer Paula Bradley
creates her own fantasy version of office wear, involving jewel
tone hats and gloves, diamonds, the size of baseballs, and
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enormous displays of cleavage. The outfits may not always be
chic or even pretty, but as modeled by red carpet
pros like Kardashian, Nash Bets or Tailor, they do exactly
what they're intended to do, which is make you stop
and stare boom.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
There are many times throughout the evening where you said,
what is she wearing?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Because I'm in all but I don't think anything is ugly.
It's just over the top, even how they're lounging around
the house sometimes and things that are red carpet worthy, yes,
stand out to a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
This one, I actually this next review I had to
actually completely agree with. So All's Fair is a clumsy,
condescending take on raw raw girl boss feminism, half baked
even by the standards of an over extended Murphy. It's
true that the tone is intentionally camp adjacent, and if
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one squints, they could discern the vague outlines of a parody.
But that's little consolation when All's Fair demonstrates such a
low opinion of its viewers. Assuming will bark like seals
when fed disconnected scrap of sassy one liners, flashy outfits
and men ain't shit commiseration.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, that's the whole That is it. That's the whole show,
and all the episodes we see. Every new case they
get is the same thing. A woman, Mary's a really
rich guy. He treats her very poorly, and she comes
in and they wrap up the case in like five minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Man, they are like, they kill it.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
They nail it every time they show up, these stupid, silly,
egotistical men, and they show them who's in charge every time.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And look, there's something to that. Do we not have
enough of that on television? You can make those arguments.
I'm not trying to get that deep into it, and
a lot of people did. It's a show that I
don't know why, and I can't explain why this is
me a show cast full of women in which it's
meant to just bash men. I can't wait for the
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next episode that means you did something right and putting
the show together because I'm running to the TV, I guess.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
But I do like this. I like this one.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It all feels icky, like an orgy of vulgarity, where
greed rules, love means nothing, and we're somehow being forced
to feel we should all want to revel in this
world too.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It is this is you want this, and it's when
you step back and look at it and go, wow,
this is ugh that's right. Ikey is a good word.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Who This was Glamour, Yeah, and that's a female forward
magazine obviously and certainly would embrace female empowerment. That's not
what this felt like. And I just it's puzzling to me.
And yet I'll be back for episode four. The moment
it drops.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
About Ryan Murphy, here is the Kardashianified said he's drunk,
the Chris Jenner kool aid, and the Murphy cinematic universe
has been infected by this so called aspirational lifestyle. The
Kardashians dictate we should all be conforming to aspire to, which,
in other words, translate as behaving like a billionaire. Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yes, wow, I also do worry about Look, this might
just be me taking it too far, but I've got
young girls who watch the Kardashians, and you see all
of these and not that my girls, if would ever
partake in any of this, but like the Fillers, we
see young girls getting lip flips and botox in their
twenties and all this stuff and wanting to buy the
(23:18):
expense of this and live a certain way and feel
her almost entitled or should be able to live a
certain lifestyle and lay around in silk pajamas drinking red
wine talking about how horrible men are. But I just
I don't know, it's a little concerning what maybe even
younger women take.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Away from a show like this.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well, why can we just it's just a show, It's
just entertainment, it's just fantasy.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
The impact and the influence of the Kardashians on a
young female culture cannot be denied.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Okay, no, no, no, no, that's but I'm saying it was
there before I ever saw her as a lawyer on
the show.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Correct, But now it's almost being glamorized in a different way,
in a stylized way. I don't watch the Kardashians, but
this seems to be a scripted version of it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Not that a scripted version, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And and I don't know if they're putting it out
as aspirational.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
That's disturbing to me.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Someone here said in another review that it feels more
like a series of Instagram boasts. That's all we're.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Seeing, flossing, flexing. Yes, she even at one point, Kim
Kardashian's character dresses in all yellow like Beyonce's lemonade and
bashes the car. I mean, yes, it almost looks like
a music video.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
This one is the This is the only I got
a little not quite mean, but a little mean, a
little personal, I should say. Someone said, again, these are
professional critic reviews we're talking about. Now, well done, Kim.
You must have healthy Excuse me, you must have quite
a healthy ego yourself to start in what may well
be the worst television drama ever made. Because All's Fair
(24:53):
is so bad, it's not even enjoyably so it thinks
it's a feminist fable about spirited lawyers getting their own
back on cruel rich men, but is in fact a
tacky and revolting monument to the same greed, vanity and avarice.
It's supposedly targ.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Wow, that is so true.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Like so women becoming like the men they're saying they
hate is something to be valued or aspire to, which
is disturbing. Also, can I point out and I love
Sarah Paulson. I love her as a human, I love
her as an actress, but I cannot stand the character
they've created for her, this adversary and it's women fighting
women and the cat fighting and the mean, spirited, horrific,
(25:37):
vulgar language that comes out of Paulson's mouth and her
character is it's supposed to be funny, cute, empowering, cool,
but they're acting like men. And I don't mean to
say that, like adding to the stereotype.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Of it all, but that is such a good.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Point, cold, ruthless, vulgar. These are I guess attributes least,
when you talk about men in the office are things
that behavior needs to stop and needs to get out
of the office. They embrace it at times and to
a point, look Sarah Pouls and some of the stuff
they give her as ridiculous. She delivers some moments just
(26:15):
because she's fricking Sarah Pauls.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, she's an amazing action.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's incredible, and she knocks it out of the park
on some things. But I can't imagine some of the
lines she has that she's able to do what she
did with them.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
You put one of them in here that I don't
think I can read. Uh, I will do you want
me to? I think just to give people an idea,
because there isn't really a curse word in here, right,
it's just disgusting.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
But yeah, but she has several we just to give
you do it, But I just give an idea. She
has several, like over the tops unnecessarily.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Seaword is used to constant.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
In combination with Burger at one point.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yes, and I'm just like, ooh, I didn't need to
hear that while I'm making dinner, Like literally we were
making dinner and hearing Sea Burger was a little much
for me.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
But maybe that's just me.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
But she's describing about whether or not she would represent
Kim Kardashian's character. I wouldn't do that even if I
were penniless and starving on a street corner, forced to
blow a priest with chlamydia for a bowl of refried beans.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I mean, take that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
In specific, it's creative over the top. Some d I'd say,
it's just it's funny and it's creative, right, it's fine,
But it's just that that is an example of the
over the topness then.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But yeah, but that's just one example. There are far
worse examples that we won't repeat here.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
But it's a hit. If it's not yet, it will
be well follow up. I messaged two people yesterday after
we started watching the show and said, you need to
watch this. So it's gonna get around by word of
mouth for whatever reason. But Robes, I cannot wait for
the next episode. I think it comes out next week.
It's three up there now. We're gonna watch those again
today as well.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
All right, stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We will keep you updated on all's fair and what's
going on in the world as well. We always appreciate
you listening to us. I may be Robock alongside TJ.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Holmes.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Have a great day.
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Amy Robach
T.J. Holmes
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