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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast. Good
morning everyone, Thanks for joining us for today's morning run.
It is Wednesday, December tenth.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm Amy Robots and I'm TJ Holmes.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
That weather is on its way. It's coming making its
way east of what the folks in the Pacific Northwest
are dealing with crazy rain and flooding. And now we've
been talking past a couple days about this cold weather
and this system is dumping snow in a lot of
places inches ten inches in some places.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
That's remarkable.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
We're actually warming up from the frigid cold just in
time for the rain, so we get rain instead of snow.
That's always annoying, right, if it's going to be super cold,
it's the holidays.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Give me some snow, man.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
That cold wet rain is the worst tanus.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, thirty six in rain is like, that's what we
had last weekend.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
It was terrible.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
So this is where we are. There's morning folks about
the weather. But hey, if our only complaint is the
weather today, then we must be doing pretty well wherever
you are. Hope you are getting a good start to
your Wednesday morning. As always, top right corner of your
Apple Podcast app where you see our show page. That
button says follow click that you can get our updates
anytime we have them. There have been a lot of
updates on some ongoing stories, and we will have some

(01:11):
updates on some stuff this morning as well.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
That's right, but on the run right now, a deadly
shooting at an HBCU, an opera singer murdered, his son
is accused, and we're gonna get our first look at
the video of Luigi Mangione's arrest and the unexplained last
words of an inmate executed last night in Florida. Meanwhile,

(01:33):
a Tennessee inmate is fighting his execution, which is scheduled.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
For tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
And a critical day in the Brian Walsh trial that
we've been following for the past two weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
And also running with us this morning, Supreme Court justices,
Australian teenagers, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, and Mackenzie Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
They're all gonna lace up their kicks and run with us,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
But we begin our run with President Trump's speech last
night in Pennsylvania. It wasn't afordability speech. He called affordability
a hoax by the Democrats. And the whole thing looked
and felt like a campaign rack, exactly like one.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
The music, his energy even, he was very animated, and
it was a very pro Trump crowd.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
We get it.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Look, he was supposed to be there talking about affordability,
which a lot of people say Democrats are winning at
least in recent elections by talking about that and driving
that home. So this is what is about. He did
tut robes his what he says is an excellent economic
report card of his own. A lot of numbers and
a lot of people disagree. But the night robes last

(02:37):
night took a turn at moments and it was just
some It was ugly stuff. No matter where you are
on the political spectrum, it was ugly stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
This isn't about his policies. This is about his personality
really at the end of the day. And he took
several opportunities to go after immigrants and specifically Congresswoman Ilhan.
He called Afghanistan, Haiti and Somalia hell holes. These are
countries filled with human beings, called them hell holes. He

(03:10):
also referred to them as shitthole countries.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
He said, your words, not mine. Someone in the country
in the crowd when he said hell holes, they corrected him,
if you will, and said shitholes and responding essentially to
a comment he made several years ago about people being
from shithole countries. And this is the quote he gave
last night. Quote, I said, why is it that we
only take people from shithole countries? Why can't we have

(03:36):
some people from Norway? Sweden?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Just a few? Let us have a few from Denmark,
send us some nice people. Do you mind? He said
that live in front of a.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Crowd last night, like the whitest countries you can think of.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I don't know what that means. I don't know es.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
That's just it hurts. It sucks that. I mean, this
is my is our president. No, this is not a
policy thing. Just talking about people in such a way
and saying we don't want people from the countries that.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Are of this color.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
And he actually naming places with eighty eighty five percent
white people and one to three percent black populations. He's
putting those out there is nice places, and it's just
there's a message there and it just sucks.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
And it stings.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yetel No, it's true and this, yeah, this has nothing
to do with being a Republican or being a Democrat.
It's about how you choose your words and how you
choose to describe people. And speaking of how he chooses
to describe people on ilhan Omar, I feel like we
just need to we've been doing this. We're just going
to let his words speak for themselves, because they do.

(04:39):
Here is what the President said last night about Representative
Congresswoman Ilhan Omar from Minnesota. Omar, whatever the hell her
name is, with her little her little turbin.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I love her.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
She comes in, does nothing but bitch. She's always complaining.
She comes from a country where it's considered about the
worst country in the world. They have no military, they
have no nothing. They have no parliament. They don't know
what the hell the name parliament means. They have no police.
They police themselves. They kill each other all the time.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
And he wasn't done.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
He continues with we ought to get her the hell out.
She married her brother to get in. She married her
brother to get in. Therefore she's here illegally. She could
get the hell out, Throw her the hell out. She
does nothing but complain. And then the crowd started to
chant send her back in case.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
The folks don't know, ilhan Omar. This is a rumor
that has been dogging her. Conspiracy theory, if he will,
has been dogging her for a decade probably now. But no,
there is no record evidence anywhere that's been dug into
by debunked by every major news organization that's gone into it. No,
she has a complicated relationship history. It's been married.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Three she's married to her third husband.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Okay, fine, but this is not true.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
But it keeps getting pushed and perpetuated in for a
lot of people.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well it has.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
It's the same thing he did with Barack Obama not
being not having a US citizenship.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
It's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
It just keep saying it, all right, continuing on the
run here.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Now, the public got to see for the first time
yesterday when police first encountered Luigi Mangioni. Now, this was
part of evidence in the ongoing pre trial hearings for
the accused United Healthcare killer and Robes. This is the
one we've heard about this so much. When he was
at a McDonald's and an employee called and all this
is going. We got to see it for the first

(06:41):
time when this evidence was released played in court.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yes and we saw the police bodycam video of when
he was first approached by police, when that McDonald's worker
recognized him, which I think is remarkable. When I saw
the video, I don't know that I would have recognized
him in that sense, so it was pretty remarkable she did.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
And so they find him sitting in the back mask on.
They ask him his name. He's playing it pretty cool,
gives a fake name, gives a fake ID. But it
didn't take long before they figured out who he was. Now,
some of the evidence that continues to be gone through
some of the notes he had in his backpack. Again,
this is all these pretrial hearings are trying to get
all this evidence thrown out because his attorney say he
was not read his miranda right, so therefore this was

(07:21):
an illegal search and seizure, but rogue some of the
he had a plan to be on the run, yes
for a while, and was trying to evade authority.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
He was He even had like a to do list
in his book, and this is part of the evidence
that his lawyers are trying to get tossed out, where
he was telling himself to pluck his eyebrows because he
knew that that is such a distinguishing feature on his face,
so he had a note to plug his eyebrows. He
had a note to keep up the momentum because the
FBI is slower overnight. So he was actually mapping out

(07:53):
how he planned to continue to evade police, and part
of that was changing his appearance and keeping on the run,
on the move. And you can actually hear in the
police bodycam video the officers debating whether or not they
had to get a search warrant before they went into
his backpack, and they decided that they did not have to.
They did not need one because he had given them

(08:15):
a false name and a false ID, so they had
a reason to look and see who he was.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
And that right now is key and all the pre
trial hearings they're off today. It will continue though tomorrow
we can tell you next up on the run. What
will continue today is testimony the Brian Walsh trial. This
will be day eight. He of course accused of killing
his wife. He said he didn't kill her, but admits
to dismembering her and disposing of her body. A key
day today. We expecting this morning a very important witness

(08:41):
on the stand today, the guy who was there with
him and his wife the night she died.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yes, this was Onna Walsh's former boss, but a friend
to both Brian and Anna Walsh, and he was with
them on New Year's Eve, celebrating the New Year with them,
and he says he left the home around on one
point thirty in the morning. That is going to be
so fascinating to hear his testimony about what the couple
was like that evening, how he left them, what he saw,

(09:08):
what he witnessed, what he knew of them.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
But he's going to have a.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
He's going to be questioned outside of the jury ahead
of time, so that's why there's going to be a
little bit later of a start.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Today.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Ten am Eastern Time is when I guess the jury
is being brought in. But hopefully we'll be able to
see what happens from nine to ten and figure out
what it is they're trying to determine before the jury
is allowed in. Next up, on the Run though a
renowned opera singer. This is just such a sad and
tragic story. Stabbed to death at his own home in
Santa Monica and then turns out his son has been

(09:44):
arrested for the crime. His name jubilant Psychs found dead
on Monday at his home. Police got a call about
an assault in progress and they responded to the home
where they then found his son, thirty one year old
Micah Sich.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Police are still trying to piece this together. Don't know
what led up to this incident, don't have any idea
about a motive. But Sykes is seventy one years old,
and he was had a decade long career, performed all
over the world, dozens of places in some of the
biggest name theaters you could name. Grammy nominated as well.
But just a sad and tragic and shocking story out
in Santa Monica. Continuing on the run here now. One

(10:20):
student killed another wounded at a shooting on the campus
of Kentucky State University yesterday. This happened around three in
the afternoon at a residence hall there on campus.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
The suspect is a forty eight year old man. He
is not a student there, and this was what police
really wanted the campus and the parents and students to understand.
This was not a random attack. So they say this
was a targeted attack. And right now we are unclear
of the relationship between this forty eight year old man
and a student and the other student who. But certainly

(10:53):
hopefully some more details will come to light in this
developing story. Next up on the Run, the Federal Reserve
is expected to cut interest rates once again today. They're
expected to lower those interest rates by a quarter point.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, they can continue their cut streak. This year is
going to be their third cut that they would have
made this year. But they're having to do this without
all the information. Yes, there are no jobs numbers and
inflation numbers right now. They are delayed because you guessed it,
because of the shutdown. Continue on the run here now.
Florida continued its record pace of executions last night. Fifty

(11:28):
eight year old Mark Allen Jerrold's pronounced dead at six
point fifteen pm last night after being given that lethal
drug cocktail and a lot of questions right now. Look,
they always ask do you have any last words? And
sometimes they say nothing, sometimes they say very little. This
man has said something that left a lot of people confused.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, no one really could tell. He said someone's name.
They say it was indiscernible. They couldn't tell whose name
he called out. But then he said, I'm sorry that
I missed you. I loved you every day. Those were
his final words. This was this execution happened. Geralds was
executed for the nineteen eighty nine murder of Tresa Pettibone.

(12:09):
He had been a contractor for the family. Found out
that the husband was going to be gone. He planned
to rob the home. She was home, so it was
a home invasion that went bad and turned ugly. This
is the eighteenth execution in Florida this year. It's a
record setting year for Florida and it's going to continue
even into next week.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
They have another one on the books next week. They
have only the record before. This was only eighth they
had done in a full year. There's also another execution
in Tennessee. We're keeping an eye on this one scheduled
for tomorrow night for sixty four year old Harold Wayne Nichols.
The governor has always said, already said he's not going
to step in, going to intervene at all. But the
attorneys continue to fight to the very last second. They
are saying this would be the only person executed for

(12:51):
a crime he actually pleaded guilty too, and they said
he should be given some consideration for actually taking responsibility
for his crime.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
All right.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Next up on the on the Supreme Court is going
to hear arguments today on a case that could impact
who can be executed in this country. The state of
Alabama brought the case because it wants to execute Joseph
Clifton Smith, who pleaded guilty to a nineteen ninety seven murder,
but two federal law courts ruled that Smith is technically

(13:21):
intellectually disabled.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
And the issue there is that the Supreme Court already
said precedent in a decision in two thousand and two
that prohibits the execution intellectually disabled people. So the question
is what exactly is intellectually disabled. They have been using
I guess a test, if you will, to measure. They're
saying the IQ test. That's how they determine whether or
not someone is intellectually disabled. The number they put was

(13:44):
at seventy, but the Supreme Court also said that there's
a margin of error for these tests, so you have
to consider other factors. This particular man has scored between
seventy two and seventy eight, So Alabama is saying he's
above that seventy number on an IQ test.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
You have to consider other things things. The Supreme court
has said in the past.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yes, and the lower courts decided that because if you'd
take into consideration what mental health professionals have said about him,
and even what his grade school teachers said about him
in second and third grade, all of that needed to
be taken into account to determine his level of intellectual capability.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
All right, continuing on our run here now with a
disturbing story out of Texas where an army guynacologist has
been charged for secretly photographing and recording patients during exams ropes.
I can't imagine the violation this would feel like. And
we're talking about at least forty four victims in this case.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
That is staggering, that gives sends chills up and down
my body, that is so disturbing. His name is doctor
Blaine McGraw. He practiced at Fort Hood. These incidents are
all from this year, but McGraw worked for years at
another health facility, and now those patients are being contacted.

(14:57):
Seems like it would be impossible for him to have
forty four victims in one year. To have him been
practicing four years, I'm sure this is just the beginning
of a very disturbing story.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
All right.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
The next leg of our run takes us to Miami,
another major city like right here in New York. It's
seeing a major mayoral shakeup.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, and some history being made. Yes, Eileen Higgins. You
might not know her name now, but you will soon.
She want to run off election yesterday. Will be Miami's
first female mayor and the city's first Democrat mayor in
nearly thirty years. So Democrats are jumping on board this
and saying, hey, another sign that things are changing. We'll

(15:40):
stay with us here on this Wednesday morning run. When
we come back, things are changing an Australia today, a
social media ban in place. Many teens are already laughing. Also,
the Nobel Peace Prize being given out today, but the
laureate is missing. Also, Mackenzie Scott continues as my hero.

(16:07):
I want to continue on our run quickly now because
I swear this one over here Robot just she knows
how to set me off during her commercial break. Continue
on the run here now. Nobel Peace Prize being given
this morning and a ceremony in Oslo, and the recipient
is not expected to be there. You remember this was
annown several months ago. Maria Coriina Machado, opposition leader in Venezuela.
A lot of people applauded the fact that she was

(16:30):
the recipient, But this woman has been in hiding since January.
She has not been seen in public this year, essentially,
so there was hope that maybe she was going to
show up Ropes. They did have a press conference yesterday,
the customary one where the Lauria gets asked questions.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
It was delayed and delayed and delayed.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Thinking she might show up, but she never did, so
we'll see how this was supposed to go today.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well, that just speaks to what she is facing and
the fact that she was willing and to speak up
despite all of that security threat. That's pretty remarkable. But
congratulations to her. It's just incredibly sad she can't be
there to personally be honored.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
All right. Next up on the Run, the first in
the world social media ban officially in place.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Australia has now said no one under the age of
sixteen is legally allowed to use social media in that country.
So as you might imagine, kids now have been spending
the days leading up to this, and certainly this morning
you might imagine figuring out how they can get around
the security and turns out they're figuring.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
It out and it seems pretty easy.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
The fix it can't be this easy because the verification
requires a picture essentially on some of them. And so
kids are they say some reports they just draw hair
on their face on a picture and it's worked, or
they put up a picture of an adult somebody else
in the home and it's worked. So there'll be some
growing pangs here. Yes, I'm sure concern you on the

(17:58):
run here now, McKenzie my here, Ol Scott. Mackenzie Scott continued, No,
she doesn't continue. We kind of get the annual report
of her giving during the year. We have done probably
nothing short of five stories this year of just such
big donations that they are newsworthy. But we got the
total numbers for twenty twenty five. This woman alone has
donated seven point one billion dollars to nonprofit organizations and schools.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
That is remarkable.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
And look, she's already been a big donator before last
year two point six billion in twenty twenty three to
two point one billion, so imagine those were already staggering numbers.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
She's more than doubled. Wait is that tripling pretty much? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Tripling what she gave in years past, in the billions already.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
But the total you said that twenty nineteen, since twenty nineteen,
how much she's given.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Them, Oh my goodness, twenty six point three billion dollars
since twenty nineteen.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
That is remarkable.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
And seven hundred eighty three million this year alone to
HBCUs with no string attached.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
She doesn't say, you have to put it to this US,
so you have to use.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
It here, whatever you want to use it for, it's yours.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
She's a walking one woman United Negro College Fund. She
has look, I am serious what she has contributed these
schools have come out and says she is changing the
future of education of African American kids in this country
with what she's doing at this school. Applause. And this
is the part. You know, I should have used her
quote as a quote of the day, but you see
that in commenting about it, she said what she's given

(19:35):
is nothing compared to the every day personal expressions of
care in these communities. So even giving that much money,
she's still stepping back and says it's just money.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Who love that.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Woman she is?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
She is impressive and remarkable, and honestly, we should do
an update on her every day because there's so much
negativity and horror in this world. To have someone like
Mackenzie Scott in the world, it's important to remember there
are people like her out there. There are more good
people than bad. I do believe that, and thank god
this one is someone who has billions of dollars and

(20:10):
is willing to spend it on people who need it
the most.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
And finally here on the run, just a reminder everybody,
go out get the tickets again. We're up to nine
hundred and thirty million dollars with a powerball jackpot. That
drawing will be tonight. I think the cash option is
getting up around four hundred plus million if you take cash.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
But it's happening tonight. You know the odds, you know
how this goes.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
But I got to go to the ATM. It's funny.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
I somehow I just now realize you have to have cash,
which I appreciate. I didn't realize you can't pay with
your ATM or your debit card.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
You have to actually have cash.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yes, some of us told me that with money in
the past.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Know that I only had well, I had to scrape
together twelve dollars, so I raped again.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
I don't have cash.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
I have to go to the ATM now to go
get the lottery ticket. Okay, oh yeah, you did find
your money clip all right, good, we have cash?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
All right, Biby.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
You know, I was shuffling through it, didn't know which
one of these I wanted to use. Is our quote
of the day? What fits you today? Here you go.
This one is just for you. We've been using the word.
The President used the word a whole I guess kind
of no, s whole. He was saying about countries. So
in that fashion quote, before you diagnose yourself with depression

(21:24):
or low self esteem, first make sure that you are not,
in fact, just surrounded by assholes.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Wow, what right? It's funny when I first heard it.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
When I stop and think about it, we're always and
we're watching it on on a reality show now where
this woman is taking everything in and blaming herself like
I have this problem, I have this issue. Even low esteem,
I think, is something been talked about. Before you do that,
take inventory of the people around you. What happens when
you get them out of the way and them stop.

(21:59):
I know we talk about it. You can't make Nobody
can make you this and da da, but road sometimes
your environment and your people in that environment make an
impact on your mental health.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Absolutely, the energy that's in the room. It's hard not
to be impacted and affected by the energy. What the
problem is if you internalize it and then somehow, Look,
it's always good to have self reflection. It's always good
to question whether or not you can do better and
be better. And I appreciate and applaud that, but at
a certain point, if it's just constant yes, that can

(22:30):
lead to self doubt and depression. So it is something
to consider your environment and who you surround yourself with
that has a huge impact on your personal happiness.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
And then you know, all that you said and all
that that therapy a therapist might talk to you about
was summed up in kind of a fun and comedic
way here, So I appreciate it. I'm not sure who
I got this from, but yes, folks, before you diagnose
yourself with depression or low self esteem, first to make
sure that you are not, in fact just surrounded by assholes.
That we appreciate you running with us as always. I'm

(23:02):
teaching and.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
I'm Amy Robaga. We hope you will run with us soon.
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