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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, folks, it is Thursday, November six, and what an
eventful afternoon in the Oval Office the President having a
press conference announcing a landmark deal when it comes to
prescription drugs, in fact, some of the most popular prescription
drugs in the country. But that wasn't the most eventful part.
(00:26):
There was a medical emergency while he was making this
medical announcement and with that, welcome to this episode of
Amy and TJ.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Robes.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is pretty dramatic stuff. Dude just flat out fainted
in the middle of this landmark deal being announced in
the Oval Office, right next to President Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It was, and the video is everywhere, and it is
remarkable to see kind of almost in slow motion as
everyone specifically the President recognizes or realizes that this guy
is going down, everyone saying are you okay? And it
seemed like he almost steadied himself and then whoop.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
He went all the way to we've seen this before,
and actually we've seen this probably as many press conferences
and things we've covered and been to that. Yeah, you
can see somebody starting to fade. You can see this
in hold on all right in the middle. Maybe they've
been standing too long. Maybe the lights of getting to them,
maybe a little nervous, but we saw it kind of
happening with this guy. But look, this was a big deal, folks.
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We were talking about gop ones. We are talking about
the multi billion dollar drug right now that's so popularly
helping people lose so much weight. They're making a huge
announcement today that they are two of the biggest drug
makers in the world made a deal with the Trump
administration to slash the price of these gop ones. That
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is a big, big, big deal that could change health
in this country. Giving more access to these drugs, which
is not just about weight loss, but if your weight
goes down, it's going to help you in so many
other ways. This could really take a huge strain look
off of the healthcare system.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Of course, obesity and all of the ripple effects from
obesity is one of our biggest, if not the biggest
health issue in this country. You're talking about diabetes, cancer,
high blood pressure, heart disease.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
All of this has to do with obesity.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So if we can figure out how to help people
trim their weight and be healthier, you were going to
save count Like I don't even think you can put
a price tag on the dollar figure we could save
in not just lives, but in all of the treatments
for all of the diseases that come from obesity.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Dr Oz was making that point today as well, and
that's a good one to make. This isn't about vanity.
We talk about people want to lose weight, and we
talk about celebrities or on the drug and all this stuff. No,
this could help countless folks not just lose weight, but
live better lives. So this was a big deal. This
was a landmark announcement. But it got delayed, pushed back
half an hour to an hour. And again I believe
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it was the head of Eli Lily that was speaking
at the time. But what was happening. The President is
sitting at his desk in the Oval office, and over
to his left they had a little podium set up
a microphone. A lot of people actually were in there
making this announcement. But the guy from Elon Lily is speaking.
He turns because he could feel kind of a commotion starting,
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and he turned and tried to ask, like, are you
okay something, And sure enough rogues the guy starts going
down and I think two executives, two executives from one
of the drug companies actually catch this guy.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yes, and there were three of them initially actually holding him,
trying to help him get down quickly.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And then you'll see very was it, Carolyn Lovitt?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Certainly there was a security guard there immediately telling all
of the reporters and cameras in the Oval Office to
get out. Shut the cameras down now. I mean they
were stern and quick. It was very dramatic to watch
that happen.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, and they She put out a statement later saying
that the guy was being treated and he was doing okay.
This was from Carolyn Levitt saying during the most favorite
Nation's Oval Office announcement, a representative from one of the
companies fainted. The White House Medical Union quickly jumped in action,
and the gentleman is, okay, the press conference will resume shortly.
It did resume again. It was at least half hours this.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Was It was close to an hour. According to a
lot of reporters.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It was nearly an hour delayed because of this medical emergency.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I guess that was a good place to have one.
He was surrounded by medical effic and doctors, and I
give doctor Oz credit. He jumped in, went right to
the guy started helping out. Now a couple of things.
Nothing is funny about a medical emergency, but some folks
are pointing out and I didn't catch it initially, but
it looks like and they're making light of RFK juniors
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in the room at the time, and he is standing
in one particular part when the medical emergency happens, it
appears at least he heads for the hills. Now it's bizarre,
like he didn't even stick around to say, what what's
going on? I get it, but a lot of people
are making it.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
He might have just felt like, Hey, we've got doctor
Oz like he just mentioned, and we've got pharmaceutical reps
who probably are around all sorts of healthcare issues, so
he's covered.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's good they don't need me.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And actually I got to make a phone call or
whatever it was he needed to do.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I'm with you one hundred percent had to pee at
that time. He was looking for it was an.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Opportunity to go ahead and quickly get done what needed
to be done.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I don't know, we're making a little light, but folk
the video, you can't deny what it looks like. We're
not saying what he was doing and what he should
have done. But a lot of people are pointing out
he absolutely just disappears, saying almost like he's running away.
I think he's probably just getting out of the way.
At that time, doctors did help. The other picture that
is also everywhere, and you can't help but go what
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it's just bizarre. The President of the United States standing
at his desk, looking straight ahead, right Rhodes Stern Trump
face okay, And to his left on the ground are
two metal company executives, one of them physically holding the
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ankles of the guy who has fainted up in the air,
which is what you're supposed to do when somebody faints,
trying to get blood back down to the heart into
the head. But that image.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Robes of his he turned his back in it, and
you're right, he looks stern, he looks like but he's
looking ahead powerfully almost and yet behind him total chaos,
and either it looks like he's not aware of or
he doesn't give a rats ass about.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But the guy to see the guy's legs being held
in the air in the oval office right behind the
President's desk. Well, the President looks ahead as if he
cannot be concerned. However, we actually.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
As you're saying, well, that's exactly what it is. You've
got the President sinny. Honestly, the look on his face,
it's almost like he's annoyed, Like I was in the
middle of something here, people, I was really excited about
what I was telling everyone, and he just looks kind
of just interested and annoyed and almost like.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
He's shrugging his shoulders, like you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Okay, meantime, Yes, you've got actually three executives on the
ground holding up the man trying to get to him,
holding the legs up. Other people who are in the
room are looking on at the scene. The only person
not looking at what's happening is President Trump.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It's a bizarre picture. In fairness, the photographer just happened
to catch this moment. A still photographer did. But when
it happened and the video showed, the President immediately turned
and went to the y. So he went to the guy, Yes,
he absolutely did. But the picture is just what the
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picture is.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It was after the fact, because yes, immediately he did
react appropriately.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yes, so let's make sure that is explained. So it's
quite an eventful afternoon before it got eventful. Ro this
is a big deal. The CDC says, we spend what
one hundred and seventy plus million, excuse me, billillion dollars
in this country on obesity treatment taking care of people
who are obese. So the idea of getting that number
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down and to think that these medicines, which everybody won't
go as far as saying miracle medicines, but damn near clothes,
they say these things are working, and so now more
people got act well.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Glp ones do a lot of things that make a
lot of sense. It's understandable why you lose weight. They
inhibit the release of lucagen and a hormone that raises
your blood sugar levels, so it also delays the emptying
of the stomach, which helps you feel fuller longer, and
they actually act on your brain to suppress your appetite
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so then you don't eat as much. So you can
see the science behind these types of drugs were actually
four diabetes about controlling blood sugar levels, about controlling glucagen.
But the result is weight loss, and so it's pretty remarkable.
People always said you're never going to find a miracle
pill or a miracle drug. Turns out, actually it looks
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like they did find one.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
At this point, everybody, don't you have somebody in your life,
somebody in your circle who has been on these things
and you saw them just transform. Yes, over the past
six months a year now that they've been taking these things,
we have all seen it and they absolutely do work.
But what we're talking about here, well does So many
of them have been cost prohibitive. Some people just don't
have access to this stuff, and you can't pay because
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if you're paying out a pocket, you're talking about one
thousand dollars plus a month to get this medication. If
you have insurance, on average, you're still around five hundred
bucks a month, but you got insurance.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
But even if you have insurance, you can't get it
just for weight loss. You have to you have to
have another condition. I think you have to. In some
cases you have to be severely obese, which is a
BMI of thirty five or over I believe.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
But in other cases you.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Have to have heart disease or diabees, some other underlying
condition before they'll even consider giving it to you.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, and some of the I didn't know this. Bro.
When you say weight loss injection, the first thing comes
to people's mind. Olympic ozempic Ozmpic Olympic. I didn't realize
ozempic is not even federally approved for weightlight loss. It's
for type two diabetes, yes, which then of course leads
to weight loss. But I didn't get that. So to
your point about all these drugs we hear, is it
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zep bound, there's a zimpig all these things, they're just
different methods of administering the same type of drug that
does kind of pretty much the same thing, but they're
just different versions.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
They're all GLP one.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yes, Yes, there you go. They're all kind of that.
So what we're doing here, and what he announced is
that the costs of these things are going to go
way way down. So for folks, they're gonna see prices
in the range of one hundred and fifty dollars a
month now. In particular, that's for the pill form that's
gonna expect it to be approved and gonna be available
as early as next year. One hundred fifty dollars a
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month for gop ones.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yes, And if you're eating less and you're looking better,
and your medical bills are lower and you have to
take fewer other drugs because you don't have other underlying conditions. Now,
it actually is so reasonable.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
They're talking about now the injections, the ones that are
popular people give to themselves. Again, we're talking about one
thousand plus dollars a month if you're paying for this
out of pocket. They're talking two hundred and fifty dollars
a month potentially now for a lot of these injections. Look,
there are different rules for this, and that we're talking
to some generalities here, but generally speaking, if this works
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and all these are going to be on trumprx dot
com that we've heard.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like a direct pay direct access to these meds.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
But if you have Medicare, yes, fifty dollar copey, that
is remarkable. Medicare and Medicaid or just medicare it I
believe it's you can get it.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yes, Medicaid is going to start covering this. Not the
fifty dollars copay thing talking about there, but Medicaid is
going to start amazing things.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
This is absolutely you know, I actually really liked the
way I think doctor Oz had misspoken about this. Some
people I was looking online, we're making fun of him
because he gave a different number. But our FKA Junior
put it like this. He said that basically, if we
get people who need to take these pills to start
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taking GLP ones now because they're affordable, because they have
access to them, he predicted that the American public will
lose one hundred and twenty five million pounds collectively by
this time next year.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I was trying to get my head around that. That
is remarkable.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I think doctor Oz misspoken said billion instead of millions,
so people were doing math and saying, oh, that means
we'll all have to lose four hundred pounds by next year.
So anyway, I believe the real number is one hundred
and twenty five million pounds.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But that is an incredible perspective.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Doctor Oz never misspeaks.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Everybody does known him a long time.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Million and billion does make a big deal. The point
there being this is absolutely a big deal. Look the president.
Folks say, oh, this has been in the works for
a long time, by the way, and we have to
add it. Did the companies just doing this out of
the goodness of their own hearts?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
No? No, no, they are absolutely getting something out of
this deal.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
As pharmaceutical companies are in it for something other than
just the good health of us. All yes, tongue in
cheek and saying that there. But still the point here
is that these companies he live. Literally, man, it's not
in front of me. Why am I are now going
to get a break on tariffs? So they are, of course, yes,
getting something out of this deal. So the President has
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struck a deal. He says, It's been taken a little
while to get this thing done. This didn't just happen overnight.
But this is the second major announcement he's made now
in terms of getting prescription drug costs down. He said
he was going to do this.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And look what was interesting is Biden tried to do this,
and people appointed to the fact that Trump signed off
on it, like signed it out of even being a
possibility because it was going to cost you as taxpayers,
of course, billions of dollars over the next nine years.
So this is a way where you're not putting this
on American taxpayers. You are now getting the drug companies
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to work with you. And so as we see, people
will Biden was going to do this, well, who was
going to pay for it? We were going to pay
for it. This is now a situation in which that's
not the case.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Hi, and some of you may be listening. Look, look,
look I don't have Medicare, I don't have Medicaid, I
have private insurance. What about me? Well, we'll tell you
what about you? Because of this landmark deal coming up,
and also just how many of us in this country
are considered obese, we'll tell you. Stay here, all right, folks,
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We continue now with the landmark deal announced by President
Trump today. Pretty exciting announcement. Even before the announcement was made,
we told you that somebody had a medical emergency. During
this major medical announcement. We're told he's doing okay, but
a guy fainted. He was a guest. As of this recording,
he hasn't robes been Identify you seeing anything else?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, no, because I don't think we even gave the response,
because initially we did hear from the White House that
and you said this that they said it was Novo
Nordic's guy. But the company actually put out a statement
pretty quickly after saying hey, CEO Mike Doutstar and EVP
US Operations Dave Moore were the only two Novo Nordisk
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representatives in the Oval Office. We hope the gentleman who
suffered a medical incident today is okay, so our guy
because so they had actually released the White House had released,
or at least it had gotten out another CEO's name
from Novo Nordisk, and Novo Nordis said enough he was
not in the Oval office.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
So if you see reports that a.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Pharmaceutical company executive and they give a name, it's actually
wrong his.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Name, this is how things get going like this, Then
nobody takes a moment, just takes a beat to confirm
what's going on. That name's man. That man's name was trending.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
On Twitter and he wasn't even there him. He was not.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
It is really scary, and I'm talking about major news organizations.
You look up this guy now are reporting that it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Was him, Yes, and even the Washington Post is reporting
rumors about who it may have been. So for whatever reason,
it's a mystery right now as of this recording, as.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know why it hasn't gone out, but yes,
it was why they reported everywhere. But that again, anyway,
that's not the guy. Private insurance robes they can do
what they want to do because it's private insurance, and
many of them, the majority of don't cover weight loss struggles.
Just for weight loss. A lot of them will cover
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die be these medications and whatnot, but they don't do this. However,
there is hope because they are paying attention to what Medicare,
Medicaid and the federal government do.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So what happens in the public sector often trickles to
the private sector. So the hope is that yes, we
will start to see private insurance companies also cut cost
and offer this these types of weight loss drugs for
simply weight loss and not put any sort of specification
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on it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
That's the hope that that is the help, that's the plan,
and it's needed. Where at a point we were talking
about this not terribly long ago on Morning Run Robes.
I think we did the states and I can't remember
what I think West Virginia and Mississippi where the two
when we were talking about obesity rates in this country.
We were talking about which states have the worst obesity rates.
But at that time we were doing a deep dive
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on some of those numbers, and just remarkable to think
that forty plus percent of the US population is considered obese.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
More than one hundred million adults in this country have
obesity and more than twenty two million adults in this
country have severe obesity.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I mean, and I remember at the time. It's not
in front of me, but I remember when you broke
down demographics it was nearly one in two. The number
was like forty nine point nine for African Americans.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
It was It was really sad and it was scary.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
And it's not gotten better even with all the information
we have, even with all of the campaigns that have
been going on about getting active and eating better, and
it hasn't worked.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
It's gotten significantly worse.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So, yes, this is a big announcement today that Robes
has the potential to change hell, to make a dent
in the health of Americans. You have to be all
for it. But at this point, on its surface, more
people having access to this stuff has to be a
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good thing.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's absolutely a good thing, and it's coming soon that
they say by mid twenty twenty six this should be
available and also pill form, so that's really for people
who don't like needles.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
That's probably a huge relief. So thank you for listening
to us with this A little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Of a breaking development here on this Thursday at MADEI
Robock alongside TJ.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Holmes, we'll talk to you soon.