January 8, 2026 • 16 mins
It’s been 2 months and one day since the asphyxiated body of 18-year-old Anna Kepner was found under the bed of her cabin aboard a Carnival cruise ship during a family vacation. While Kepner’s death has been classified as a homicide, no arrests have been made and no official suspect has been named, by the FBI. However, court documents in a separate custody case clearly state that Anna’s 16-year-old step brother is a suspect in her death. Amy and T.J. go over the most recent text messages between the step brother’s parents that were shown in court, that offer quite a bit of insight into where this case stands and what has happened to Anna’s stepbrother since Anna’s death.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, January eighth, and almost
exactly two months ago, eighteen year old Anna Kepner was
found dead aboard a Carnival cruise ship, and here we
are two months later, no arrests and very few answers
as to what happened to her. And with that, welcome
(00:22):
to this episode of Amy and TJ, where we have
been looking back robes on some very high profile mysteries, deaths,
investigations that don't have a lot of answers. This one
we don't have a lot of answers either, But this
has been a fascinating case where little things start leaking
out here in the there to where we're starting to
(00:42):
form a picture at least it seems of what might
have happened.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's right, because this happened in international waters. It's the
FBI's jurisdiction, and the FBI is notoriously tight liped. They
do not show their hand, they do not give any
indication as to where their investigation is headed. And so
the only reason why we have any information is because
there is a custody dispute going on between Anna Kepner's
(01:10):
stepmother and her ex husband involving this stepbrother who we
now know is a suspect only because of court documents
in this custody case.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
All right, folks, did you get all that? I know
the story well, and I was and that was still confusing. No,
not confusing everything with one hundred percent right, that is
what this case has been, very confusing. Let's go back
to last November. Anna Keeptner, eighteen years old from Titusville, Florida,
went on a cruise. She had her dad, stepmom, the
step mom's two kids, and her grandparents. So correct, whole
(01:42):
family is together, and Anna Kaepner is sharing a room
with one of the step siblings. Both step siblings, including
her sixteen year old stepbrother. She's found dead on November seventh.
Robes and the way she was found may clear. It's
clear someone tried to hide or cover up something.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Correct, it was I believe a a house cleaner who
came in a cleaning crew around eleven am on November
seventh and found her under the bed with life jackets
and blankets trying to cover the body. And pretty quickly
I will say we did get a cause of death.
That was information came out very quickly, and that it
(02:21):
completely went dry but they were able to tell us.
Authorities were able to tell us that Anna Kapner, eighteen
years old, died from mechanical asphyxia. They say she was
mechanically asphyxiated by other persons, so they labeled it a
homicide from the get go. There was no question as
to how she died. We know it was at the
(02:43):
hands of someone else, but they haven't said who, if
any suspects there are.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Officially, yes, they haven't given us that information. So move
forward to the next part of the story and the
story you were telling rogues. Is that the reason we
have the information we have now Again we talked about
this being a blended family, step mom, step siblings. Well,
the step mom is involved in a custody dispute with
her ex husband. Now, as a matter of that dispute,
(03:11):
they had to make some court filings en roped. It's
in one of those court filings is where it is.
At least from her words, she is saying her son
is being considered a suspect by the FBI.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's right in the latest court filing, at least the
one that got everyone's attention. This is the language that
was in the document. It is true that there is
an open investigation regarding the death of the biological daughter
of the stepfather and blank, we don't have his name,
but the sixteen year old is a suspect regarding this death,
(03:46):
which occurred recently on a cruise ship. So that is
as plain as it gets in this court filing. The
sixteen year old stepbrother is a suspect in the murder
of eighteen year old Anna Kepner.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And again, and you look, no speculation and nothing to
put there, but people are piecing this together that just
no one else was around. You remind me, and I'm
sorry I'm completely missing this, but as far as the
comings and goings, they are aware that nobody else was
in and out of that stateroom.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Correct, There is surveillance video. There are cameras all throughout
that cruise ship. And they have made a note that
the only person who came and left Anna Kepner's room
was the step brother. From the time they know she
went in there alive until the time she was found dead,
he was the only person who came and went.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, So then we find out more. Again, the official
information comes from official court filings in this other dispute,
but there are ropes. We found out that he was
at a facility, We found out about some of the
things he's been saying to family members. And this call
comes again from some court documents that show text messages
between the boy's mother and father, who is her ex husband.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yes, and a lot of people have made a point
will go through them that the text messages said nothing
about really about the death of Anna Kaepner, about the
loss of Anna Keepner. It was all about protecting and
perhaps massaging public opinion about their son. So the first
(05:23):
text is at seven thirty pm on November seventh, that
is the day they found Anna Kaepner's body. Within about
six hours of that discovery, Chantelle, which is the stepmom,
wrote to her ex husband, we'll call him Tim, that's
his name. I need you to call me asap. It's
an emergency. The next text is the following day, and
(05:44):
they are talking about their younger daughter. She doesn't know
anything about her brother. The only thing I told her
is that he was having a hard time coping with
losing Anna. So he's getting checked out by the hospital.
We know that the stepbrother was immediately when the ship
came into doc sent straight to a medical facility to
(06:06):
be evaluated. He was that emotional, apparently, and then the
next day. This is very interesting, Chantelle texts her ex
husband on November ninth. I was able to talk with
the step brother last night for under two minutes. Briefly.
He just keeps repeating over and over. He can't remember
(06:28):
everything that made headlines.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
He said everything, he said anything.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Anything, Sorry, he can't remember anything.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yes, that's all he repeated. I don't know what to
make of that, and no one does. But there is
something that happened on the ship. It's almost as if
he's acknowledging something happened, but he can't remember that thing.
I don't know what to make of that, but a
lot of people are making something of that. This is man,
this is this is awful. What happened? It could have been.
(06:54):
You can explain all kinds of accidents. I'm sure he'll
He hasn't been charged with anything. Now, let's start there.
He hasn't been charged and hasn't been named officially as
a suspect by any law enforcement arm has he That
is correct.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
The FBI is the only entity investigating, and they're not
going to announce the suspect. They're going to announce an arrest.
They're going to announce charges, but before that they will not.
And it's interesting because if you see, I hate to
call it damage control, but that is what's going on
between the two parents the ex husband, right, I wrote,
I just want him to know that he isn't just
(07:28):
dead to everyone, regardless of everything. At the moment, he
needs his parents. I know you know that. I would
just like to have a chance to talk with him
as soon as possible. Sean Tell writes, nobody knows anything
about him. He is a minor and has been kept
completely out of it. We have not said anything to anybody,
and we are we will try our best to keep
(07:48):
completely out. We'll know exactly more when the autopsy is done.
Once we get the autopsy today. Depending on what it says,
it will depend on whether he's booked on these charges.
What's interesting about that is that we did get the autopsy,
and we did get a cause of death, and it
is asphyxiation. They actually didn't they say it was with
(08:10):
a choke hold done by someone else, So that's interesting.
She felt like once they determined it was murder, once
they determined she was exphyxiated, that their son was likely
going to face charges.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Doesn't it sound to you like the parents knew he was.
He had a hand at least the mom in these
exchanges like an expectation he's going to be charged. Was
nothing in that said yeah, he was nowhere near this.
Oh he said he walked in and that was none
of that. And this is a moment where they never
thought their text messages would be released, so they're talking correct.
(08:42):
And so this last one also was getting a lot
of buzz. She writes.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Okay, I know everything is supposed to be hush hush
for now, but I've seen that it is still getting
out with posts and comments between Facebook, TikTok and stuff.
I just want to make sure, until things are certain,
that he doesn't get any unnecessary comments towards There is
nothing in here that says he is innocent. He did nothing.
I know my child, we know our kid. He would
(09:06):
never do this. I'm blown away at the accusations. This
is so it's all about controlling the damage, controlling the narrative,
about protecting him, and I get that as a parent,
I totally get that. But what's absent and what's missing,
(09:26):
which is so notable, is that there's no talk about
him being innocent whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know there, You know it's to some point and
any parent listening can relate to you immediately no matter what.
Want to do right by your child and want to
protect your child the best you can, of course, and
you certainly don't want to believe your child is capable
of anything like this. And also robes this could have
been it's some kind of horseplay or tragic accident. Did
a sixteen year old have the intent of killing his
(09:54):
eighteen year old stepsister? Hope not, but something happened to
her at the hands of some else, and to think
it was another teenager who's in her family is just
horrific for this family, as we said, and we want
answers and are waiting and whatnot. Man, this family is
going through it, and they went through it. We talked
about him over the holidays. They miss Thanksgiving and Christmas.
(10:16):
Not just that she's not there, but the whole family
now is split because the step siblings are here and
the family's over here and all this stuff. But stay
with us, folks, and all we're talking about is sixteen
year old. Where exactly is he right now? We'll get
into that and also we'll let you know what other
family members have been saying about this young man.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Welcome back, everyone. We are giving you an update of
the latest information about the murder of Anna Kepner. She
was the eighteen year old Florida teen who was found
dead in her cabin on a cruise ship, a Carnival
Horizon cruise ship. She was on a family vacation and
(11:05):
because of court documents involved in a custody case, we
know from those documents that her stepbrother, her sixteen year
old stepbrother, is a suspect in the investigation. The FBI
is actually conducting the investigation because this happened in international
waters and they notoriously do not give any information. So
(11:28):
the information we do have is coming out from these
court documents. And we know that the stepbrother is now
no longer understandably living with his mother, Anna Kepner, and
his stepfather, of course, the father of Anna Kepner. So
she and her ex agreed in November, and we all
(11:49):
know this through the court documents, to send him to
a family member on Florida's west coast, because Anna Kapner said, yeah,
he can't return to our Titus Phill home. Can you
imagine though, what that marriage is going through right now?
Your son potentially killed my daughter. How do you how
does that family not just get through the holidays that
(12:12):
they've had to get through, but just get through life?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You said potentially, Where is it fair to say we're
the ones and investigators are saying potentially? Don't these people
probably know?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yes, what happened, right, Yes, And it seems I cannot
imagine being able to survive that as in a relationship,
and it's a tough Like you see the pictures of
these of this family and you see them vacationing together
and all these family photos, and they all look very
(12:43):
happy and very united, and this is difficult. We also know,
just in terms of the step brother from these court documents,
his mom said that he had not been taking pills
for insomnia for the last few days on that trip
on that cruise ship, and that he also was supposed
to be taking pills regularly for that and for his ADHD.
(13:06):
So that was a part of the court documents that
when he went to this other family member to ensure
that he was taking his medication. I don't know how
that would play into any sort of potential defense if
he is charged at some point, but that was made
note of as well, and really the only indication we
have about their relationship we heard from the grandmother who
(13:28):
was on the cruise ship earlier, and she had nothing
but glowing things to say about the relationship between Anna
and her stepbrother, which is also puzzling. She said, there
were two peas in a pod.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
What happened? Just what happened in that room? I just
I'll wait and want to hear. But I would like
to believe that a sixteen year old does not have
a desire to kill his step sister, And so we'll
find out maybe what happened in there, But just an
awful story for a young lady was supposed to be
graduation from high school. I believe this this spring. Yeah,
(14:05):
it's awful, but again it's one folks. You can go
back through our feed here you'll see that this week
we have gone back and revisited some of these cases.
Martha Nolan, the death in montac David the singer who
dead body was found in his trunk a teenager. That
case is still going on, and now this one as well.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
No, I was just saying, you wonder in these cases,
as you just listed those all several of them have
a very well documented potential suspect, and it's just curious
as to what it takes what prosecutors are potentially trying
to do behind the scenes to make sure they have
(14:46):
all their ducks in a row before they bring charges
and before they potentially but there's time to actually present
a case. So I'm just it's curious to me what
the decision is to.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Wait, you know, you want to get it right. These
are very high profile cases that we have seen defense
attorneys dismantle in court based on things that are happening
right now, investigative things going on that we don't know about.
So yes, as a public, as journalists here waiting for
answers and waiting for the story to actually come out.
And this is one I defer and I have to
(15:18):
give them all they're just do for. And ha's the
patience for these cases because I cannot imagine behind the
scenes what it takes to make sure you got it
right to bring somebody to justice and make sure you
can get a conviction just about and arrest.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Justice is oftentimes, especially in this country, very slow. We
have certainly documented that and seen that. I think what
the grandmother had to say, really kind of moved me,
she said. When they kept asking her about the relationship,
she said, I can't accuse him because I don't know
what happened in that realm. And I think that's where
(15:56):
we all are right now, and we will wait to
see what investigats readers tell us when the time comes,
and we will of course be following this story as
well as all of those others for you, and as
news becomes available, we will bring it to you. So
we appreciate you as always listening to us. I'm a
Mee Roebuck alongside t. J.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, January eighth, and almost
exactly two months ago, eighteen year old Anna Kepner was
found dead aboard a Carnival cruise ship, and here we
are two months later, no arrests and very few answers
as to what happened to her. And with that, welcome
(00:22):
to this episode of Amy and TJ, where we have
been looking back robes on some very high profile mysteries, deaths,
investigations that don't have a lot of answers. This one
we don't have a lot of answers either, But this
has been a fascinating case where little things start leaking
out here in the there to where we're starting to
(00:42):
form a picture at least it seems of what might
have happened.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's right, because this happened in international waters. It's the
FBI's jurisdiction, and the FBI is notoriously tight liped. They
do not show their hand, they do not give any
indication as to where their investigation is headed. And so
the only reason why we have any information is because
there is a custody dispute going on between Anna Kepner's
(01:10):
stepmother and her ex husband involving this stepbrother who we
now know is a suspect only because of court documents
in this custody case.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
All right, folks, did you get all that? I know
the story well, and I was and that was still confusing. No,
not confusing everything with one hundred percent right, that is
what this case has been, very confusing. Let's go back
to last November. Anna Keeptner, eighteen years old from Titusville, Florida,
went on a cruise. She had her dad, stepmom, the
step mom's two kids, and her grandparents. So correct, whole
(01:42):
family is together, and Anna Kaepner is sharing a room
with one of the step siblings. Both step siblings, including
her sixteen year old stepbrother. She's found dead on November seventh.
Robes and the way she was found may clear. It's
clear someone tried to hide or cover up something.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Correct, it was I believe a a house cleaner who
came in a cleaning crew around eleven am on November
seventh and found her under the bed with life jackets
and blankets trying to cover the body. And pretty quickly
I will say we did get a cause of death.
That was information came out very quickly, and that it
(02:21):
completely went dry but they were able to tell us.
Authorities were able to tell us that Anna Kapner, eighteen
years old, died from mechanical asphyxia. They say she was
mechanically asphyxiated by other persons, so they labeled it a
homicide from the get go. There was no question as
to how she died. We know it was at the
(02:43):
hands of someone else, but they haven't said who, if
any suspects there are.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Officially, yes, they haven't given us that information. So move
forward to the next part of the story and the
story you were telling rogues. Is that the reason we
have the information we have now Again we talked about
this being a blended family, step mom, step siblings. Well,
the step mom is involved in a custody dispute with
her ex husband. Now, as a matter of that dispute,
(03:11):
they had to make some court filings en roped. It's
in one of those court filings is where it is.
At least from her words, she is saying her son
is being considered a suspect by the FBI.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's right in the latest court filing, at least the
one that got everyone's attention. This is the language that
was in the document. It is true that there is
an open investigation regarding the death of the biological daughter
of the stepfather and blank, we don't have his name,
but the sixteen year old is a suspect regarding this death,
(03:46):
which occurred recently on a cruise ship. So that is
as plain as it gets in this court filing. The
sixteen year old stepbrother is a suspect in the murder
of eighteen year old Anna Kepner.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And again, and you look, no speculation and nothing to
put there, but people are piecing this together that just
no one else was around. You remind me, and I'm
sorry I'm completely missing this, but as far as the
comings and goings, they are aware that nobody else was
in and out of that stateroom.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Correct, There is surveillance video. There are cameras all throughout
that cruise ship. And they have made a note that
the only person who came and left Anna Kepner's room
was the step brother. From the time they know she
went in there alive until the time she was found dead,
he was the only person who came and went.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, So then we find out more. Again, the official
information comes from official court filings in this other dispute,
but there are ropes. We found out that he was
at a facility, We found out about some of the
things he's been saying to family members. And this call
comes again from some court documents that show text messages
between the boy's mother and father, who is her ex husband.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yes, and a lot of people have made a point
will go through them that the text messages said nothing
about really about the death of Anna Kaepner, about the
loss of Anna Keepner. It was all about protecting and
perhaps massaging public opinion about their son. So the first
(05:23):
text is at seven thirty pm on November seventh, that
is the day they found Anna Kaepner's body. Within about
six hours of that discovery, Chantelle, which is the stepmom,
wrote to her ex husband, we'll call him Tim, that's
his name. I need you to call me asap. It's
an emergency. The next text is the following day, and
(05:44):
they are talking about their younger daughter. She doesn't know
anything about her brother. The only thing I told her
is that he was having a hard time coping with
losing Anna. So he's getting checked out by the hospital.
We know that the stepbrother was immediately when the ship
came into doc sent straight to a medical facility to
(06:06):
be evaluated. He was that emotional, apparently, and then the
next day. This is very interesting, Chantelle texts her ex
husband on November ninth. I was able to talk with
the step brother last night for under two minutes. Briefly.
He just keeps repeating over and over. He can't remember
(06:28):
everything that made headlines.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
He said everything, he said anything.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Anything, Sorry, he can't remember anything.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yes, that's all he repeated. I don't know what to
make of that, and no one does. But there is
something that happened on the ship. It's almost as if
he's acknowledging something happened, but he can't remember that thing.
I don't know what to make of that, but a
lot of people are making something of that. This is man,
this is this is awful. What happened? It could have been.
(06:54):
You can explain all kinds of accidents. I'm sure he'll
He hasn't been charged with anything. Now, let's start there.
He hasn't been charged and hasn't been named officially as
a suspect by any law enforcement arm has he That
is correct.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
The FBI is the only entity investigating, and they're not
going to announce the suspect. They're going to announce an arrest.
They're going to announce charges, but before that they will not.
And it's interesting because if you see, I hate to
call it damage control, but that is what's going on
between the two parents the ex husband, right, I wrote,
I just want him to know that he isn't just
(07:28):
dead to everyone, regardless of everything. At the moment, he
needs his parents. I know you know that. I would
just like to have a chance to talk with him
as soon as possible. Sean Tell writes, nobody knows anything
about him. He is a minor and has been kept
completely out of it. We have not said anything to anybody,
and we are we will try our best to keep
(07:48):
completely out. We'll know exactly more when the autopsy is done.
Once we get the autopsy today. Depending on what it says,
it will depend on whether he's booked on these charges.
What's interesting about that is that we did get the autopsy,
and we did get a cause of death, and it
is asphyxiation. They actually didn't they say it was with
(08:10):
a choke hold done by someone else, So that's interesting.
She felt like once they determined it was murder, once
they determined she was exphyxiated, that their son was likely
going to face charges.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Doesn't it sound to you like the parents knew he was.
He had a hand at least the mom in these
exchanges like an expectation he's going to be charged. Was
nothing in that said yeah, he was nowhere near this.
Oh he said he walked in and that was none
of that. And this is a moment where they never
thought their text messages would be released, so they're talking correct.
(08:42):
And so this last one also was getting a lot
of buzz. She writes.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Okay, I know everything is supposed to be hush hush
for now, but I've seen that it is still getting
out with posts and comments between Facebook, TikTok and stuff.
I just want to make sure, until things are certain,
that he doesn't get any unnecessary comments towards There is
nothing in here that says he is innocent. He did nothing.
I know my child, we know our kid. He would
(09:06):
never do this. I'm blown away at the accusations. This
is so it's all about controlling the damage, controlling the narrative,
about protecting him, and I get that as a parent,
I totally get that. But what's absent and what's missing,
(09:26):
which is so notable, is that there's no talk about
him being innocent whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know there, You know it's to some point and
any parent listening can relate to you immediately no matter what.
Want to do right by your child and want to
protect your child the best you can, of course, and
you certainly don't want to believe your child is capable
of anything like this. And also robes this could have
been it's some kind of horseplay or tragic accident. Did
a sixteen year old have the intent of killing his
(09:54):
eighteen year old stepsister? Hope not, but something happened to
her at the hands of some else, and to think
it was another teenager who's in her family is just
horrific for this family, as we said, and we want
answers and are waiting and whatnot. Man, this family is
going through it, and they went through it. We talked
about him over the holidays. They miss Thanksgiving and Christmas.
(10:16):
Not just that she's not there, but the whole family
now is split because the step siblings are here and
the family's over here and all this stuff. But stay
with us, folks, and all we're talking about is sixteen
year old. Where exactly is he right now? We'll get
into that and also we'll let you know what other
family members have been saying about this young man.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Welcome back, everyone. We are giving you an update of
the latest information about the murder of Anna Kepner. She
was the eighteen year old Florida teen who was found
dead in her cabin on a cruise ship, a Carnival
Horizon cruise ship. She was on a family vacation and
(11:05):
because of court documents involved in a custody case, we
know from those documents that her stepbrother, her sixteen year
old stepbrother, is a suspect in the investigation. The FBI
is actually conducting the investigation because this happened in international
waters and they notoriously do not give any information. So
(11:28):
the information we do have is coming out from these
court documents. And we know that the stepbrother is now
no longer understandably living with his mother, Anna Kepner, and
his stepfather, of course, the father of Anna Kepner. So
she and her ex agreed in November, and we all
(11:49):
know this through the court documents, to send him to
a family member on Florida's west coast, because Anna Kapner said, yeah,
he can't return to our Titus Phill home. Can you
imagine though, what that marriage is going through right now?
Your son potentially killed my daughter. How do you how
does that family not just get through the holidays that
(12:12):
they've had to get through, but just get through life?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You said potentially, Where is it fair to say we're
the ones and investigators are saying potentially? Don't these people
probably know?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yes, what happened, right, Yes, And it seems I cannot
imagine being able to survive that as in a relationship,
and it's a tough Like you see the pictures of
these of this family and you see them vacationing together
and all these family photos, and they all look very
(12:43):
happy and very united, and this is difficult. We also know,
just in terms of the step brother from these court documents,
his mom said that he had not been taking pills
for insomnia for the last few days on that trip
on that cruise ship, and that he also was supposed
to be taking pills regularly for that and for his ADHD.
(13:06):
So that was a part of the court documents that
when he went to this other family member to ensure
that he was taking his medication. I don't know how
that would play into any sort of potential defense if
he is charged at some point, but that was made
note of as well, and really the only indication we
have about their relationship we heard from the grandmother who
(13:28):
was on the cruise ship earlier, and she had nothing
but glowing things to say about the relationship between Anna
and her stepbrother, which is also puzzling. She said, there
were two peas in a pod.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
What happened? Just what happened in that room? I just
I'll wait and want to hear. But I would like
to believe that a sixteen year old does not have
a desire to kill his step sister, And so we'll
find out maybe what happened in there, But just an
awful story for a young lady was supposed to be
graduation from high school. I believe this this spring. Yeah,
(14:05):
it's awful, but again it's one folks. You can go
back through our feed here you'll see that this week
we have gone back and revisited some of these cases.
Martha Nolan, the death in montac David the singer who
dead body was found in his trunk a teenager. That
case is still going on, and now this one as well.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
No, I was just saying, you wonder in these cases,
as you just listed those all several of them have
a very well documented potential suspect, and it's just curious
as to what it takes what prosecutors are potentially trying
to do behind the scenes to make sure they have
(14:46):
all their ducks in a row before they bring charges
and before they potentially but there's time to actually present
a case. So I'm just it's curious to me what
the decision is to.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Wait, you know, you want to get it right. These
are very high profile cases that we have seen defense
attorneys dismantle in court based on things that are happening
right now, investigative things going on that we don't know about.
So yes, as a public, as journalists here waiting for
answers and waiting for the story to actually come out.
And this is one I defer and I have to
(15:18):
give them all they're just do for. And ha's the
patience for these cases because I cannot imagine behind the
scenes what it takes to make sure you got it
right to bring somebody to justice and make sure you
can get a conviction just about and arrest.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Justice is oftentimes, especially in this country, very slow. We
have certainly documented that and seen that. I think what
the grandmother had to say, really kind of moved me,
she said. When they kept asking her about the relationship,
she said, I can't accuse him because I don't know
what happened in that realm. And I think that's where
(15:56):
we all are right now, and we will wait to
see what investigats readers tell us when the time comes,
and we will of course be following this story as
well as all of those others for you, and as
news becomes available, we will bring it to you. So
we appreciate you as always listening to us. I'm a
Mee Roebuck alongside t. J.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
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