March 27, 2025 • 66 mins
What a gleeking treat! Inside stories from the folks who were in the room where it happened!
Glee's set costumer, Jennifer Iizuka Palmer, and the show's sound production mixer, Phillip Palmer, join Jenna and Kevin to share hilarious behind-the-scenes stories from the set, including wardrobe malfunctions, mishaps, and mixups, the things the mic accidentally picked up in between takes and Kevin's apology for an "unprofessional" on-set prank!
Plus, Phillip and Jenn's Glee love story has Jenna and Kevin laughing out loud! From their first words to each other to the location of their first date and what Ryan Murphy said when he discovered their romance!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you Really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Welcome to When That's what you Really miss podcast. Kevin,
It's Crewe Day, It's crew Day Day, Ride Today. I
just love it because when our crew comes on, it
feels like family reuniting that haven't seen each other in forever.
And then also like they just have so many stories
to tell, and I feel like because you weren't there,
(00:32):
like it's it's really the people who know who were
there can really fully understand it. It's that moment of reconnection. Yes,
you get So this is really exciting.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
The moving parts obviously, like Glee was a bohemoth of
a production to accomplish every day, and to have these
two on today, phil and jen Palmer, which is so cute.
They have their romantic relationship from the show. They worked
in different departments and did so much incredible work on
(01:04):
the show, and like Jenna said, their family and so
excited for us to talk about their relationship and their
work because they're just some of the nicest, most talented,
wonderful people. So enjoy our conversation with Philip and Jennifer.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yes, this is kind of like our our nightly FaceTime
when we're in different areas of the world.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Crazy and now we get to just have a peak
of the beautiful relationship that.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Started on Glee.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Crazy. We're going to talk all about that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
First of all, thank you both for being here, like
two of our favorite people.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Very hard to coordinate with lots of schedules.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You guys are married yet on in different locations currently
and preppy for things and working on things, and it's.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Sort of the story of our life. Really.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
We we we we kind of have to coordinate where
we're going to be.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
We have a we have a little.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Bit of a rule that we try and not to
spend more than three weeks apart.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, very good.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It could probably get really easy to actually spend more
time apart than that.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I'm sure it's pretty intentional about it.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
You have to you have to plan it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, that's so smart. But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Let's back it up, rewind.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Hello, everybody, could you introduce yourselves and say what you
did on Glee.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
I'm Jennifer Music for Palmer. I am a set costumer.
I took care of half of the kids and everybody else.
I came in season two and was there until the end.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm I'm Philip Palmer. Uh and I
was the was and I still am a production sound mixer,
and I was part of the show from the jump.
I was there on the pilot and uh, I missed
two episodes in the middle because of a weird conflict
(03:21):
and then made it all the way to the end
real quick.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's crazy that show starting to like And here's an
Emmy for you, sir, immediately, Yeah, deserved, by the way.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Many questions about so many things. Where do we even begin?
It's like separately and then together, there's just a.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Lot let's go ically, Yeah, let's Philip, when you got
the gig? Like what what was that call?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
What?
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What are we doing? What was that like for you?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Okay, Yeah, I got a call from a a person
that I used to play on a softball team with.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And you never know who's gonna get you the job.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Never know, honestly, and uh he he knew that I
had I was a sound mixer, and that I probably
had some music, uh sort of playback history, which is
what we do when we, uh, when we do a
musical on on film and television. And he called and said,
(04:30):
I'm about to do this show with some people that
have never done a musical before, and it's all music.
I laughed, and I was on a movie at the time,
and we and it worked out that we we finished
the we finished shooting in the movie, and then I
(04:52):
rolled my equipment over basically to almost to to UH
to where we were going to do the uh the
the pilot, which we was not on stage.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
We shot it all over the place that's right, and the.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
You know, the the auditorium and much of the school
was sort of spread out over like three different schools.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It was like Burbank and Long Beach, And so we did.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
The pilot, which took us about a month to do
the pilot, and none of us really had any.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
I never met Ryan until day one.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Literally, that's crazy, because how vital what you do for
that show on a day to day base Like every
everybody is vitals from the show on a day to
day basis. But like you said, doing playback, doing sound
for a musical seems like an integral part of a musical.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Not a meeting, not a single meeting.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
And so we were all huddled in this It was
sort of a class room. I think it was in Burbank,
And the first scene we shot was Shuster sliding the
envelope of of right, the weed, the weed, that's right,
(06:18):
yeah to Corey. And that was and so I hear
a person sort of directing that must be Brian. Oh
that's how I's that's how I met Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
That makes so much sense.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, Oh my gosh, that's so crazy. I imagine.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
A kind of like made up your own rules of
like people came to you or like, so, how does
this work? How are we going to do this? And
they look to you. Had you come up with a
plan or was it this kind of like flying by
the seat like.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
The your pant? What is the saying thank you?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I had Donald quite a bit of playback and things before,
so I kind of knew what we had to do.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
But no one else did.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And so and I think the first musical thing we
did was brock in the boat.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
This was funny. So I got the you know, the
play that was before we could download things.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
This is a while ago, everybody, and.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
So right before we got there that they come to
me with a you know, a CD uh a disc
of Well, here's the tracks.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I was like, great, and.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
We loaded them up and and and everything, and then
I remember for the rehearsal, you hadn't nobody had. We
didn't do any like we ran through it one time
and we rolled the cameras, right.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, yeah, much for everything.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
And yeah, so I had the speakers in there, and
Ryan's in there, and.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I forget who our first d D was at that
point in time, but it.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Was Danny Danny Silverbrig and Danny looked at me and
I went, it's it's okay, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
And then it was action.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
We hit play and you guys did the thing, and
then it was cut and then I looked around and
and Ryan and everybody went, I guess that's how we're
doing our show. And it literally was like discovery for everyone.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
And yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It was great.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And when on the pilot when we figured out, I
mean they had Ian had a plan and they all
kind of had a thing. But when I saw what
the show was going to be, what was when you
all were sitting in the h in the seats for
(09:08):
vocal Adrenaline and then then they did the vocal Adrenaline number.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
And in your faces and I went that's our show.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, that's where we're like, wow.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
What a moment.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
How cool. We always talk about how because we were
all so green and all of you were, you know,
experts veterans. Yeah, and then our gauge during that time
was your guys' reactions to things and so like you
were all so nice and so encouraging from day one,
(09:45):
and we're like, is this good? Is this a thing?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, and you're like, I.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Think this is good. Like, okay, if you think this
is good, then it feels like it's good. But I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But we didn't know.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Enough to be like, oh, this is our sound person.
This is like asking them how it works. You know,
like we just we were just kind of going along
with what everybody was telling us to do and hit
a mark and say your line, and you know, do
these things and do these moves. So everybody was, I
feel like, kind of all in it together. Yeah, which
(10:18):
is interesting that Jen came on in season two because
the roller coaster had already we were already at the top.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So I'm curious to hear from your perspective.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Because we were little monsters by then you got.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
The job, and then what your experience is like coming
into the Monsters.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
A lot of Philip, like, they didn't used to be
like this.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
We know we started dating the end of season.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's free, guys.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You had no intel.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
So I came in. I interviewed for the job the
first time, sitting on the floor in Barnes and Noble
on the third Street promenade.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Yeah, because I was a phone interview with Marisa Aboities
who was our supervisor at the time, and Lou I
reg And then a couple days later I went into
the office and sat with lou and Marisa again and
interviewed for a little bit longer. But I just remember,
because I wasn't there for first season, I watched it
(11:24):
as a fan, and I would remember coming in. I
was working, I think, I was working on I don't know,
the New Class, I think, and I would come into
work every morning after the show and we would all
stand there and be like, how did they do that?
Shoot that show in eight days? Like basically, how.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Did they do that?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
We did that?
Speaker 6 (11:49):
We didn't I didn't know that. So then I go
in and I get this job, and I'm very excited
because I like singing and dancing and running around with
people and My first day was uh, New York at Bernstein.
That was my first day on Man.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
That was first day of season two.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
First day of season two was it Burns.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It was first day of season two, first day because
I remember how I felt in the trailer like, oh,
we're doing this. The show's a hit, Like, you know,
like we're doing a big number. It felt different.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That was a big one.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Yeah, it was huge. And I'm standing there and I'm
like and like Phil said, they just yelled action and
everybody just ran and did their thing, and I was like, oh,
so this is how we do this. Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Was it chaotic for you?
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:39):
It was because it was like especially, I mean that number.
You guys were essentially all in the same outfits, but
like we had to cut Amber's neck out of our shirt,
and we had to, you know, do all the individual
things to everybody's shirts, like.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The characterizations to the album.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yeah, all this the thing. We had to make sure
that Johnnah had you know, ninety two had gone lids,
and Amber had her shirt and seventy five jelly bracelets
and yah, you know, Lea's was perfectly fitted to her body,
and everybody just had their own little as as Jess
would call them their own little nannies that we had
(13:15):
to get everything ready, and then we just kind of
checked y'all out there.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
I just stood there and I was like, okay, so
this is my job.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Now, yeah, let's go. Well, there's just so many of us,
so like for people who don't.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Know, like, for what you do, you're literally waiting in
the wings for every take. In between every take, you're coming,
you're adjusting, you're fixing before we go on set. You're
making sure we have all of our ninnies and nunnies
and things like that you have, and then making sure
the continuity is right from scene to scene and making
sure we had the same ring on the same nail
(13:48):
polish color. So like, there's just so many intricate details
that like, people don't realize that you guys are the
ones responsible for in theory, even though we go off
and get our nail polish chain and that's not your
you're not guilty, you.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
So we take a week off and somebody goes and
gets super tan.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
When people ask me what my job is, I tell
them that I'm a glorified mom because your guys room
every morning, and then I scream at you to get dressed,
and then I chase you all around all day and
pick up the pieces that you've dropped, and yell at
Paul Crafty for serving tomato chili and you're wearing white coats,
and find all your things when you lose them, and
(14:41):
up all of your spills. And then I yelled your
shoes on, put your pajamas on, and then you know,
pick your clothes up. It's so only a couple off
the floor and put them on.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
You described the first day where it is sort of chaos,
and then it just happens like both of you in
every department is operating like their own little world inside
of a hurricane. Yes, And it's like all this stuff
is flying around you and you're just like, I'm going
to do my task and just show up. Both of
you are always so calm. I don't know how like
(15:21):
either of you would do it like I don't.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
There was.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
There was. I certainly lost my ship a couple of times.
We all did.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
We all did.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
But honestly that that crew was so unified and so
good yes to bottom that it did. I think I
of the hurricane is kind of like what you see.
Like when people would visit, they were like, what are
y'all doing? Because everybody's doing all this stuff, and then
it kind of starts to slow down, and then it stops,
(15:57):
and then we do the thing and then the hurricane
starts again. Right, So true, and so that's kind of
what sort of our life is like, that's what you know.
But when somebody comes from the outside, they see it
and they feel like, you kid.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Even yeah, it seems like an impossible task. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, when you finally when showed up and you finally
got to see how the sausage was made, we're like, oh,
never mind, I would rather not know how this is done.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yeah, I just I was so I was so shocked
that you just it was just like, I mean, we
always joke that like one day we'll get on a
real show where it seems like there's a plan and
everybody knows, you know, there's never a plan. There's always
this ages of a plan.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, structure.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
You know, we just kind of went out and did
it and then it was, you know, sixteen hours later
we were going home.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, yeah, and then you realized, oh, we're on day nine.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Of eight, day ten, and a half.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Oh my gosh, she was warned about me.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, so let's get into this because you know, here's
the thing. The point of this podcast really is to
talk about you know, in the public and the media,
you hear about all the bad things and people don't
know about the incredible things that happened on the show.
And one of those things is your guys' relationship. So
(17:31):
take us back, what happened? How did this happen?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Say what? So?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Like you when you start a new job, there's a
couple of departments that you always make friends with. Like
I always make friends with the guy that drives my
truck because I need to know where we're going and
what time, and it makes friends with the craft service
people because they're going to feed me. And then I
make friends with the sound department because I need them
to be my friend when yes, Naya's where a teeny
(18:00):
tiny dress and I need to be there while they're
getting wired or when you know whatever, somebody has a
finicky tie or somebody just doesn't like to be wired
or whatever. So I always go and make friends with
the sound apartment. So I was talking to our trailer
person Jessica Pasternick, who was in the background a minute
ago and says hello, but I will.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
But so I was talking to her like, you know,
I need you to introduce me to the sound people,
and she's like, oh, so, I mean they're great. Our
sound mixer kind of hates us because of Jenna's bubble
dress last season.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I was like, it's my fat I'll never stop telling
this story.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
So and I think I think you've talked about it
on this show, with the little plastic bubbles and how
every time she moved they clicked and I do remember.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Still running out during that.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Something me.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
So that was like halfway through last season, and last
season was like a year and a half ago by
this point. I'm like, it's gonna be all right. And
I walk in and I find my spot and I
you know, Ark shows me where to set up and everything,
and I walk over and uh, I walk over and
I introduced myself and I was like, you know, I
(19:35):
I'm Jennifer. I'm going to be the set person this year.
And he was like, great, as long as we don't
have another bubble dress, should be fine. And I'm like
to me, that was our first interaction.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Wow, that bubble dress lives on to me.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, it brings me so much joy and so much
pets be at the same time.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Something that came out of it, Jenna.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
True God was so funny.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Wow, how I meant, how does courtship work in this situation?
Because you know, it's a little it's like a small town.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It's closing and people are talking.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, like, well, we.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Didn't actually, we didn't start any anything at all until
wrap after second season, and she was a summer of love, some.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Of love and some of American horror story.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Also, yeah, the pilot.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
So but we were wrapping Glee and it was right
before you guys, so you finished season two on the
show and then you all immediately went to Las Vegas
tour tour.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yeah, so we were and a bunch of people were
going to Las Vegas for your first show and then
fell kinds on the on the trailer, which is unusual,
but not out of the realm of possibility, you know. Yeah,
So he was, you know, talking to us, and then
he asked me if I wanted to go grab a coffee.
(21:22):
I was like, well, that's weird, but sure, I like coffee.
So we went over to the coffee bean on the lot.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yes, and he knew that I.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Was one of the people that was going to Las
Vegas to like see you guys, and he had an
extra ticket to the show. And I wasn't planning on
going to the show. I was just going to go
to the after party with everyone. But so you did
first date?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, No, was your.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Guys' opening night of the door?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
This is what Lehanna was singing about, was or.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
The insuing after party.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Was riven?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Yeah? Yeah, my Now we did the pilot together.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
And a horror story.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
The rest is history history.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You can love. At the Glee tour, everyone you hear that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You can survive anything you beg ever since.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Oh my gosh, what was it like?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Did you guys tell people when you started dating, like
within the like because it's such a small town and
within our crew and like we worked every waking moment together.
What was it like working together dating and then also
including everybody else in on the relationship.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Well? I actually called Jessica from the cab on the
way home after the Gleat tour that okay, like texted
her and she was for some reason awake. It was
like four o'clock in the morning. She knew. She knew
from the job, because after we came back from coffee
(23:17):
that day, she was like, what was that?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
She really does, she really does.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
And then I did the uh season three I don't
remember what they're called, the photo shoot thing that we
have to do before recess.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
I was yeah with Kelly Mitchell, I don't know, you
just were all in each other's pockets all day anyways,
So kind of everybody figured it out on their own,
for sure, for sure. Funny.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
It was funny when Ryan figured it out.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh my god, how did tell us that?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Well, we're walking I don't know where.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
We were walking to the commissary, walking in the Commary.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And and I don't know, I kind of grabbed your
hand or something, and we hear this from from behind us.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Are you two in love?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Very Ryan, very very yeah, And he loves to know.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
The gossip.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
His days. You make a friend like that.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
How long then have you been together?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
What is the math on that?
Speaker 6 (24:28):
It's going to be fourteen years in June?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It really ages us too, because when did you guys
get married?
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Twenty eighteen, so post.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Glee finale dated for a while.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And then yeah, yeah, does this still work after Glee?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And have you guys worked together since Glee?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
We've dy played together, but we haven't managed you get
on another show together. Yeah, because you know, he went
to New Mexico and I've never seen him again.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Right right, hardly?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, I've been doing a lot of shows out of town,
which Jennifer does a lot now too, But I started
working with a set of producers that like to do
stuff in New Mexico and I do that.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
In between the.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Season five and season six, I jumped onto a show
that ended up going for a long period of time.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Wow. Yeah, you have hits after.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Hits, he does.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I would like to publicly apologize Philip because I did
something severely unprofessional one day. Oh and I sometimes still
wake up in a cold sweat about it, because Philip
does not deserve that.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You've talked.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, Naya and I it was before Thanksgiving break. I
have told the story before, but I need to say
this to Philip's face. Nya had sent me a voice
recording it was very inappropriate, like earlier in the week,
and when we were on like our seventeen, we'd start
(26:34):
playing it to each other and I cannot say what
it is, because absolutely would I would never ever work again.
But it was at the time joke between me and
I and some of the cast. And then one day
when we were shooting this number, I think it was
before Thanksgiving break or something, and we were all like,
you know, not going to make our flights home or
(26:56):
whatever it was ny and I decided to distract Philip
and then I plugged in my phone to play the
voice message over the PA system, which is not okay.
(27:17):
And I am very sorry because then you ran back
like there was a fire, because that was the equivalent
of a fire.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It was.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Philip kept his department very professional. Yes, of all the departments,
I feel like sound was the most professional.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yes, I know, I don't look it was a momentary lapse.
It was I didn't like. I woke up the next
day after like sleeping, and I was like, what the
did I just do to all the people? Of all people?
What that? I was like, I am so sorry. I
(27:56):
thought that was funny, but I'm a child. That was
so stupid. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Apology accepted.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I knew it was bad when even I was like
even she was like, I don't think we should have
done that because like because her bar yes of like
she really.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Likes like she's like, no, I do that.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And then I looked at her face and she's like,
what did you do? And I'm like, oh no, I'm
like I read this situation very incorrectly.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, it's okay. It's very out of character for you.
It's okay.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Do you remember when I had to come and apologize
to you?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Oh my god, Oh yes, yeah I was.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
I was equally as freaked out.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
It was so it was so so we were all
it was like me, Chris, maybe Amber. There were a
handful of us, you know, when we had our cash
chair set up in the teacher's lounge and we're miked
all the time, but you can speak.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
To this can I set the stage? So we're we're.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Doing a choir room scene and you know, it's it's
basically a theater set up and somebody in front, right,
So we shoot one side and then the other.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
That's how we do it in filmmaking.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
But when we shoot out out towards say, say it's
mister shoe.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Sometimes we pluck a person out and we put the
camera there and it's my cruise responsibility to let me
know when somebody might not be in the in the
scene because I'm raising their mics up and doing all
these things. And so it came we rolled, and it
(30:07):
came time for Kevin's line, his one line for the scene,
and I raise up the mic and you say.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I'm bisexual, Kevin or something like that, and then.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Which was not his line.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And then I pulled the microphone down and I broke
into like flop slip, and.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
We just carried on the scene like nobody heard it.
And so we cut and I hear the microphone.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Boom sliding back down, and Patrick Martin's my boom operator
at the time, was laughing so hysterically.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Because he was I am so sorry Kevin is not on.
Where is he? He said, uh, in the in the
other room.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And so I went in and I had to tell
the story. And because I have this thing, I'm professional,
it's like everybody's wearing a mic all the time. I
do not raise the mics up, unless I mean I
might just to check it, but I never raised them up.
And so I did that, and I could see everybody
(31:37):
in video village went, you know, They're like.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I didn't know everybody heard yeah, everybody, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
If there's anybody you're going to do that to, Kevin
is the right person.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I remember you running up to me and you looked
horrified and you were apologizing, and I was a saying
like stupid ship about each other.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
You were, you were, you were.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Everybody was saying what what their uh new screen name
would be, and.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yours, yours was gonna be I'd be bisexual. And it
was like the perfect It was like a perfect cut.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I was like, that is so odd because for context here,
like we're not in the same location, we're not that far,
but like we're talking freely, like we're far enough away
where we can talk freely and not be caught on sound,
and like we're sitting in the dark, just like I
was laying on the floor. We're all just like sort
of like shooting the ship. And then I guess I
(32:44):
said that at the perfect.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Time and everybody in the village and I.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Was not like publicly like out at the time. So
the film was like very sweet about running over and apologizing.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
I was so I was mortified.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
It's also like I am Mike and I said something
so like you know.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah, you know I try and protect my actors.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, so you.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Know what you call it, even it feels like it
was worse, Jenn, I feel like we had a lot
of really wild episodes with crazy costumes, yes, including Jenna's
bubble dress.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Yeah. But there was two when Becca tore her cat suit, yes,
in her face in that episode because she takes the
whip and she does this and she was wearing a
latex it's a latex fetish suit, let's call it what
(33:49):
it actually is, and it ripped in the armhole here
but her face because I don't know where I was standing,
but I was in the room, I guess, because she
looked dead at me with the widest eyes that you've
ever seen on Beca Toobin and she froze with their
arm out and she just stood there, and I just
(34:10):
remember looking at Leo and going, Leo, we're gonna need
a minute.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Well because also there you got that from like what
a center store? Probably, and yeah, there was only one.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
We didn't there was only one. So we got Becca
out of it. We threw Ben in his car heading
toward the store in Silver Lake to go get another one.
And meanwhile, there's a pic I have a photo somewhere
of me on the trailer with our seamstress. But it's latex,
so you can't sell it back together or anything. And
(34:41):
if you blew it, which you can do, it takes
forever to cure. So like there's nothing we can do.
And I'm sitting there with like electrical tape pretending like
I'm gonna be able to fix this, which I'm definitely not.
Weill Ben like runs across town to get another one
and hurry back. So we shot somebody else's superhero. Yeah,
(35:01):
we got another one, yeah, because there was no background
because it was just the band, and so that.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I got her here, right, her and Melissa during that yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Yeah, So there was that one. And then when we
did Grease the second time, uh sentence right, Vanessa l
cl climbed on top of the sheep shack during You're
the One that I Want and ripped her pants, like
(35:37):
pants on like I don't even know what they were.
They were like, I don't know, some sort of silk,
very fitted, and she climbed on top of the shake
shack and was like, you know, doing her Vanessa moves
and ripped her pants and she game same thing. She
stopped and she looked and Chess was on set at
that time too, and she looked at both of us
(35:57):
and she was like, came down and we had this
sower pants back up and more of that. We're on
top of the shakeshack. But those are my two, like
the yeah and then the pants Leah's pants.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
It was during Brave Yeah, and we made them last
minute because the costume got changed last minute and they
were beating Chiffon and every time she moved they shredded.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
And it was.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Not during a good it was during it was a
bad day, five bad times. Thankfully. It was Brad Beaker directing,
and it was I think it was like a Friday
or something. It was towards the end of the week
because it was very late and it was it was
(37:02):
it was after midnight. I think we wrapped. It was
super late. And I went up to Brad Meeker afterwards
and I was like, I am so sorry because it
was a mess. The whole thing. The pants were shredded.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
It was bad.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
And Brad was like, why are you apologizing?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
You didn't do anything.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
I was like yeah, but he's like, no, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That number turned great. Watch amazing.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
I can't watch it. There's that that is when when
people ask me what my worst day on set was,
it's that one every time. Yeah, it was. It was very,
very very bad.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
And that.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
It was just uh Nya and Leah and some of
the other so and dancers. So Rourke wasn't there. I didn't.
It was just me in bed and so Ben and
I are trying the same thing. Was fun. If you
try to sew it, you put in a hole in
it into shreds more. I think at one point we
had it. We taped it together with gaff.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Tape, just like.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
And everybody don't understand, Like everybody's just waiting to finish
the scene to go home.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
There's hundreds of people there.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Doing their jobs and it's like the pressures on for everybody,
just like get it done, just.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Get it done home.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
And especially because I think it was a Friday, because
and it was so late, and yeah, that was my
worst day on set ever.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I have a question for uh for you, Fela.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I we most almost all TV shows, we talked about
this a lot.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I don't have a d R.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
And for people who don't know what ADR is, acters
after they finished an episode will go in and six
sound lines, things that you know that didn't get properly
recorded during the shoot. I can count on my thumb
one finger the one time I had to do ADR. Now,
(39:13):
when we tell other people, other actors on TV shows
that we did never did ADR, their mouths are on
the floor. They're like, how so, I'm curious for you
why we never had to do ADR? And was it
you figured out the magical thing because you're a magical
(39:34):
unicorn in what you do, or was it that we
didn't have time and somebody was like, just make it work.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I have to know.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I've been dying too the answers since we wrapped.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
It's a fun fact to like brag to other actors
about because I think I maybe did it once. Maybe
thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
First of all, Jane Lynch kind of has done that before,
or she said that to me and she didn't have
to do any ADR and they called her in one
time and she said finally and she got there and
they said, oh, no, we're adding a line.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Didn't say.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
She was like, oh, that means that you didn't wait,
you know.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And that's a whole separate thing.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
It's a whole separate thing. I don't really know.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I knew early on it had been presented to me
that Ryan really does not like a dr I, so
I used I used that as a little bit of
a way for me to go, I think I need
another one or I need this little section.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
So I keep.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Very and I do this for every show, not just Lee,
but I go through the script while we're doing it.
I have like I have my mixing panel, and you
guys know, you guys used to come and hang around me,
and I would have the sides up, which are MANI
versions of the script, and and I literally check them off,
like we got that one clean, we got that one clean,
(41:02):
we got that clean.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
I'm missing these two.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Lines and that and you guys remember me coming in
and go, I need a wild line. Yeah, and we
go and we'd get that line wild and we go great, thanks.
And so I would literally check off every line because
it was relayed to me very early on that Ryan
wasn't a fan of ADR, and I think it was
mostly because they didn't they didn't spend a lot of
(41:27):
time working with good ADR people, because ADR can be great,
for sure, and it can save a scene. But I
don't think Ryan had had great experience with that, and
so I took it upon myself to to and it
(41:48):
was known.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
You know, the producers knew it, and everybody knew it.
They're like, oh, yeah, he doesn't like it.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
So I would say that, I'd be like, I need
two lines and I need it from this, and then
usually when I do that, they would say, oh, let's
just do it again.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (42:03):
And then we would do another take and then it
would be clean and I'd be like, got it.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
So a lot of the way production is.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Done now and I won't say this all the time,
but they will blast through it and because you know,
time is money and they know that they can they
know with good adr they can fix it, and so
it's in my best interest to try and get it,
you know, right the first time.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
But that was.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Really sort of the rule on Glee from the jump
was that, uh, everybody checked with me before we moved
on because of Ryan and and I think it paid
off because I thought I thought the show sounded really good.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
It sounded really good.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Yeah, we also like didn't have the time, Like I
can't even imagine in my head then being like, hey,
you guys at the end of the day, like you
have to go to a dr I don't know when
we would have done it.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
No, it was even like they built that new like
building next to our stages where we're doing some adr
we didn't. I remember like the one or two times
I ever had to do it. It was so difficult to
even schedule for me to walk across an alley basically
to go do that. So it's phenomenal that because I
remember doing those wildlines and things like that. Yeah, it
(43:22):
takes twenty seconds and you're done. You're in the same
spot that you just shot in there. Yeah, when it
came to the music stuff, because you said you had
done music before, because obviously we get asked a lot
(43:42):
about were you guys singing live? Were you singing to
pre recorded tracks? Like obviously we were lips sinking ninety
nine percent of the time. There's a couple exceptions in there.
But when it went from you getting CDs to you
probably be downloading the files, and I could see like
(44:03):
you would have you when you get stems, they send
you stems of everything, because sometimes we wouldn't know what
we recorded because we record so quickly, and like I
remember going over to you a lot of the times
being like what are my ad libs? Like, I it down,
no idea. I did one take of that and I
don't know, and it's like mixed in a way orm
like I can't really hear it. And the beauty of
(44:24):
it you could literally pull up any vocal, any piece,
which was so brilliant as opposed to just you know,
starting pressing play and then we just had to do it.
Like what was that like for you?
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Well, it didn't start out that way.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
It started out with I would get a just a
mixed two track and so and that happened like the
first uh, first thirteen episodes was I was just getting
a mixed and so after that when we got the
pick because I don't know, maybe you've talked about it before, but.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
It took us like two years to do the first season.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, it was a very long time.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
It was a very long time because I we did
the pilot and then several months later we came back
and did the first thirteen and it started airing and
it and it was like a home run. And then
so there was like three months off before we came
back and did the back nine. So really from start
to finish of the first season was like two was.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Like, yeah, it was a long time.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
And so when we came back, before we came back
for the back nine, I said, I can't we can't
have I can't just get a radio version of this.
I have to have the music split out because I've
got to feed music. If I need the drummer to
actually have the intro that is playing on the thing,
I got to be able to play that for him
(45:41):
smart right then. And I need the backgrounds completely separate
because I need to be able to pull the backgrounds
out when we're doing y'all's you know, close ups, because
sometimes the backgrounds are like there's like nineteen voices and
you can't you can't hear what you're doing. And so
(46:02):
we would so from the first thirteen to the back nine,
that's television talk from.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Uh that's how we used to do TV.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
And uh.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
So we had a meeting with the music editor, Dave Klass,
who's just brilliant and he's had, I think, build a
like a new wing onto his house for all of
his zammi's and it's like he comes home and read them,
you know, but.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
He he we developed this sort of.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Work, you know, flow that had you know, I had
everybody's everybody in the cast vocal separate, and there the
effects on that vocal separate, because sometimes they had all
these effects on it and we don't need to hear that.
(46:57):
You just need to hear what you're doing. So I
could I could change the effects level. Every single one
of the cast members was a separate split out, and
all the backgrounds were its own split out, and then
the music was its own, and and then anything that
was weird, like something that was additional, like an intro
or everything, they would have that on. And so I
(47:20):
had it all split out on a big pro tool session.
And so yeah, so we had a rig. And so
as you started being savvy to it about season two
or three, you guys would just come over the card
and go, can I hear my background?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, we never get to hear any of them.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah. It was like a little cheat code even if
I didn't have to. I'm like, what is Amber doing here?
Can you just play that one time for me?
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Oh, she's doing even more okay?
Speaker 5 (47:54):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
And Ambers was like a favorite for us to solo
and hear because they were nuts.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
My gods, was just crazy honor.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
That's the thing, like the gift that we got to
just go hang out with you and like solo these things.
It was. It was like one of my favorite parts
of those days. I'm like, I hope I have more things,
like an excuse to go, Like I didn't want to
bother you. I was like, if I had an excuse
to go listen to something, if it was like not
my part, it really had to be like worth it.
(48:27):
And so I'm like, yeah, like what is Amber doing? Please?
Speaker 5 (48:30):
I remember that?
Speaker 4 (48:31):
And then I remember you coming by because there was
some gnarly background vocals on something, and You're like, I
want to hear these backgrounds. So we sell and we
play them and they're like who is that?
Speaker 6 (48:42):
You know?
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It was nobody, these magical people who like we've never met,
we don't see at all, but they're singing their faces
off and this is the only time we get to
experience them.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
And then when we would do like you know, one
of the big you know, competition things a sexual we
would have this massive thing because we want between so
we would have this pro tool session and that's like
tech talk for you know, music stuff. Uh, And it
was this massive thing. So I kinda I got a
(49:16):
little sweaty at times, because I mean, pro tools is
kind of at that point in time was very famous
for shutting down.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
And right in the middle of right.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Right at the worst possible moment, when there's like a
thousand people there, and so we we always had a
backup going. We didn't have a going, but we had
it there, so if it shut down, we'd be like,
we need a second and then we could.
Speaker 5 (49:39):
Swap it out.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Crazy.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
Yeah, it was we. I feel like so.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Much to think about that. People don't realize.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
We just really we were winging it a lot.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
Because there was there would be times, would you know,
Beaker would come up like, I.
Speaker 5 (49:57):
Know I didn't ask you for this, but how hard
would it be to play this backwards?
Speaker 2 (50:05):
I didn't know you did good impressions. You know, everybody's
like body language down.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
And remember when we did, like, uh, the song backwards?
You guys saying it backwards?
Speaker 2 (50:20):
What song was that?
Speaker 5 (50:21):
I forget what it was. It was Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
It was Michael Jackson. It was in the hallway. It
was in the main hallway. Doesn't want to be starting something.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
I might even want to be starting something.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Ye, I can't remember, but he was like, I want
to do it backwards because.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
If you do it backwards and then you.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
Play it it and then you play it forwards, it
has this weird motion.
Speaker 5 (50:48):
So we would do all of these things.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Like the double time when they do the song.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, that was that was.
Speaker 5 (50:54):
That was like the first time we did that. They're like,
how hard.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I love that. I was like, I've done this before
because you were the one.
Speaker 5 (51:03):
You were the person that had done that sort of thing,
and I was.
Speaker 6 (51:06):
Well, and you could always nail it because I think
we did the backwards one, and when you nailed the
backwards the one, you like jumped up and down like
for twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
You loved those things. I was just like I would
get sent because at first when I first got sent,
because there's like a not to get too nerdy about this,
but there was like a debate if we do it
like one and a half times or two times or
two and a half times, and I was like these
two are way too fast. I'm like that doesn't sound right,
and like I don't know what it's supposed to be.
But I was so scared because it also like the
(51:37):
early days, I'm like I would show up and do
a good job. Yeah, but I'm like, oka, look at
it like dancing up myself. I'm like this out there.
I loved doing it. The challenge of it was so fun.
Speaker 5 (51:50):
It was fun.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
And and so when we started doing that, so all
of the sessions got even bigger because I had them
do a double time. God, a one and a half
and a double time, and so like all of these
crazy things. And so we we were just like because
anytime we saw something cool on a music video on YouTube,
(52:12):
they'd be like, let's do that, right, yeah, And so
that's and and so you know, we became that show.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
We were that, Yeah, we've done it. We've done it all,
We've seen it all.
Speaker 5 (52:25):
It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
Do you have any favorite musical numbers that we did, like,
either that you were involved it or just like watching
dinosaur proms?
Speaker 6 (52:37):
Just the ones that I the ones that are near
to my heart are the ones that were so awful
and that we were standing there. I cannot believe that
we're doing this. So dinosaur prom with the heads with
which just still has in her backyard by the way,
Yes she has the dinosaur heads.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (53:02):
It was a Christmas one with you with Jenna and
Melissa and alex Y Child.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Never forget that one was were you there for singing
in the rain?
Speaker 6 (53:18):
I know I wasn't there. I was on the other
unit with Carol Burnett and.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
All right.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Then you were lucky, lucked out because that.
Speaker 6 (53:37):
Was the water.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
The water was something special by the time we fit
with the amount of stuff they put in it so
that it wouldn't fall.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
I mean we were the water was boaming, We.
Speaker 6 (53:51):
Had rain boots.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
Probably immune system is so bad, Kevin, sitting in the
water basically.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Just getting sitting in the back, are just collecting in
my lap.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Oh we would like cover our take our roomoods and
just like the water would pour out.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Or the slushies for both of you, Yeah, my god,
good question, Kevin.
Speaker 6 (54:13):
Well, for him that's so bad because the minute we
said slushies, you took the wire.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Off years out because it was weird. But for me,
I mean, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (54:25):
So well you got more anybody, the two of you.
Speaker 6 (54:30):
We really did, Kevin, that one with the hockey players,
and you got I don't know what was it, like
fifteen slushies poured on you. You were sking, you were blue,
which is ironic because the slushies were red, but we
would set up like me, like costumes and hair and
makeup would set we'd find wherever the closest room was
to where the slushi was going to happen. We would
(54:52):
shove everybody out of the way and we would declare
it hours because what would happen. And you guys have
talked about this a little bit is after are you
pour all the slushies? Everybody has to wait so that
we can take photos in case we ever have to
match this, which sounds insane, but we had to match
Jenna when she got Carrie at the prom because we
shot the after part where she changed dresses before we
(55:15):
shot the prom part, before we shot the actual thing.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
So yeah, so we'd have to freeze like so they
would say action slushy and then.
Speaker 6 (55:28):
They would be standing there like shaking from cold and
eyes closed, scrunched face because you're cold and it's in
your face and it's in your eyes and because you
don't want to get at your mouth yep, and die.
And we were learing there taking pictures because we're horrible people, and.
Speaker 5 (55:46):
Also tried to fake slushy at one time. But it
looks so bad.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
It looks so bad.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
It was.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
They were like would just bounce right off.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
I appreciate the thought that they but I just wasn't
the same effect.
Speaker 6 (56:03):
So then we'd shove you into a room and like
you know, Kelly would have hot towels and I would
just start like pulling your clothes off because you'd be
so cold, and then we'd wrap.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
Rip down your body, like all the way down to your.
Speaker 6 (56:19):
Your undergarments, like everything would be. It was.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
I always felt so bad. I was like, they shouldn't
have to rub us down, Like this shouldn't be part
of your job.
Speaker 6 (56:30):
Well, no, because then we just have to get you
dressed and put you back out there you do it again.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah, but they were like I just remember people like
fully cleaning off my like limbs because they were dyed red.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Yeah, like that's not fair, So like it's yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (56:46):
Was like it was in your chair that day.
Speaker 6 (56:49):
Was that I never felt worse for a human in
my life than Kevin McHale And with seven teams off
your leg.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
I had never been slushy before.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
I never. It was absolutely my fault.
Speaker 6 (57:07):
Brand.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, he's like, well I'll take care of that one exactly.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
Waiting for those photos to be taken was the worst.
Speaker 6 (57:16):
Didn't hurt when it hit you from for carry at
the problem because it was so high up.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, it was like a buckets word, so it hurts.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
And it felt so like like shards of ice, like
your face down your dress, like it came straight down
on me and it just felt like I was being
hit with icicles.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
Basically.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
It was terrible and of course it so it's right
in and just sat in my dress. It was awful.
It was awful, and we did it twice. I thought,
like for sure this one they weren't going to have.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
To do again, and they did.
Speaker 6 (57:53):
We did it twice, Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
Then like at some point got smart and like if
you had to work the rest of the day, they
would offer the gym, the paramount shower. But at some
point I think we were all like whatever, just like
wipe me down and keeping shaving cream and oh yes,
we we learned that you guys learn was it makeup
(58:17):
that learned that the dye comes off with shaving.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yeah, so they were.
Speaker 6 (58:21):
Just cheap old kind like the fancy new.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
Job the old yeah white because it also.
Speaker 6 (58:27):
Gets off it gets movie blood as well.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
Oh interesting science. Fair enough.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
I got to work with Jen again.
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Yes, which was.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Oh yeah, that was honestly, Like Ryan called and asked
if I would do this American horror story things. Yeah,
of course sure. But the best perk, to be honest
was like seeing some of the and Melissa, Yes, it was.
I was, I'm like a professional what I just wanted
(59:00):
to be like, so tell me everything, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (59:04):
It was. I was so excited when they told me
that you were going to be on that I I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (59:10):
I was.
Speaker 6 (59:11):
Ben and I were so stoked. We couldn't wait for
that episode.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
I think the fam is back together.
Speaker 6 (59:16):
Yeah, and the rest of the guys that were in
that episode, we were so fun. And it was just
like where I could just like yell and be like, hey,
somebody go get catch so somebody will go wake Kevin
up because he's sleeping on the ground in the corner.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
In that room. And I mean people that didn't know
us would like look at us, and She's like it's.
Speaker 6 (59:36):
She keeps talking to him like that like he's one of.
Speaker 2 (59:39):
No no, no, no no no, she knows this.
Speaker 6 (59:41):
I yelled at Kevin from across the parking lot one
time to go change his clothes because I wanted to
go home like.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
We have here. It was great. I really loved it.
And also to like, you know, so step into somebody
else's show, even though every episode was different. It's like
a weird thing. And to be able to like be
there with you who just felt like, oh, we're doing
this again, and then we put.
Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
You in a tub and we poured ice on you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Well, I was like, fine, nothing.
Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
I asked the prop people and I was like, wait,
is it real ice or is it silicon ice? And
they kind of looked at me like why is she
asking this?
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I just have to know for sure you don't know.
So we asked everybody this question separately, together however you
want to answer it. What is the feeling that Glee
leaves you with?
Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
Oh, I mean, go ahead, Bunny, go ahead, Bunny.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
We're married.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
It's like you guys know each other or somethings.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
I mean, there's there was this statement constantly by the
feeling of joy. You know that that was what being
a part of a glee club is. And I honestly
feel like being a part of that crew from start
(01:01:08):
to finish, I mean what it was like a family, family,
like I've never experienced. And we talk about it a
lot about how you know everybody.
Speaker 6 (01:01:26):
I mean, the last night, the last song in our
reception was I Lived Yep, yep, because it was and
it was our version, because of course it was. It
was like the cheesiest thing that we did. But I
had we met on the show. Also, the lyrics to
that song are actually quite good for the final song
(01:01:48):
of your wedding reception. But yeah, like that, this is
I still work with these people. They're still my people.
And I mean, I I know you guys are all
grown adults, but you're still my kids.
Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Total.
Speaker 6 (01:02:03):
Every one of you are still my kids. Great, and
I am so proud because that was such an It
was an incredible show. Yes, was a dramatic Did we
all fight, Yes, because we're our family and we all
fight with everybody, but nobody else is going to fight.
Nobody else is going to say anything bad because.
Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
The exactly we protect that. Yeah, I mean it is like.
Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
I can't say that I can no, no, I can't,
but you cannot.
Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Yeah, no, it was That's so sweet. Yeah, it's really
really sweet. Yeah, we feel the same.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
It's kind of why we view the show is like, yeah,
just to make sure that people know that the real story,
you know, not what you hear, because there's a lot
of I.
Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
Mean, there was definitely a tragedy and drama and anger
and fighting and everything, but we were together, you know,
seventy hours for seventy hours a week for six years,
really more than that. But like, yeah, you don't fight
with people that. You don't not fight with people you're with.
Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
That much to not realityating's just like taking out on
the people that were closest with, you know, exactly that
kind of feeling where you get it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
We're all going to have bad days.
Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
But everybody had a great time if you ask them.
Everybody talks about how much fun it was, and everybody
was at their their best. And the crew that we had,
I mean from our pas and up until you know,
our dps and the producers and everybody, like you know,
they were all bringing their best every day. Yeah, that's
(01:03:42):
I also had really really really talented people.
Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
This this feels validating, you know. It's like we always
say this, and it's nice to hear other people other
departments who were on the show for as long as
both of you were. Yeah, to say the exact same
things that we always say to each other.
Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Oh it was.
Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
It was, I mean one of the most enjoyable periods
of the time of my life. I'm always going to
talk about it, you know, I talk about it like
it was yesterday. And then when people also, when people
find out that that I or we were on Glee,
they they're like, how did you do that show? Because honestly,
(01:04:24):
so many other shows have tried to do it not
well right, And it's really it was really hard, and
it was a little bit of lightning in a bottle
that we managed to be able to kind of keep
going for a while. And I'm incredibly you know, fortunate.
We are incredibly fortunate to have been part of it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Same, Well, we were so lucky to have such a
great crew truly, you know, everybody was really the top
of their game, but also just.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Like really good people.
Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
So to have that, I think that was part of
lightning in the models, like the chemistry of all that.
Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Yes, and it dated what it was people just see,
you know what's on the TV. But that chemistry was around.
Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
The thousands of things happening and the hurricane you or
the tornado. Yeah, well we know you guys are so busy,
literally like on sets prepping to do other things. So
we really appreciate you taking the time to come on
the show and talk with us and share your story.
And it's just so cute and we really love you guys,
and we miss you and it's so good to see
you and thanks for something on.
Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Yeah, of course, I'm so glad to do it for
so much too.
Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
By they were such integral parts of our show. I
mean everybody was, but like such integral parts and like
so many memories I have include them, oh yeah. And
then also like their story of how cute they are
and how they met and they dated and they got
married and like their story continues that started on our
show is so special.
Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
There's not every department that you interact with so often
with every show too, but yeah, we interacted with them
specifically personally, yes, every day, all day.
Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Yeah. Yeah, well, thank you so much to Phil and Jen.
Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
They were even in separate locations, both doing their own work,
because that's how the industry works, and they took the
time to talk of this.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
So thank you guys so much, and I hope you
guys enjoyed this episode.
Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
That's what you really missed thanks for listening, and follow
us on Instagram at and that's what you really miss pod.
Make sure to write us a review and leave us
five stars. See you next time.
And that's what you Really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Welcome to When That's what you Really miss podcast. Kevin,
It's Crewe Day, It's crew Day Day, Ride Today. I
just love it because when our crew comes on, it
feels like family reuniting that haven't seen each other in forever.
And then also like they just have so many stories
to tell, and I feel like because you weren't there,
(00:32):
like it's it's really the people who know who were
there can really fully understand it. It's that moment of reconnection. Yes,
you get So this is really exciting.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
The moving parts obviously, like Glee was a bohemoth of
a production to accomplish every day, and to have these
two on today, phil and jen Palmer, which is so cute.
They have their romantic relationship from the show. They worked
in different departments and did so much incredible work on
(01:04):
the show, and like Jenna said, their family and so
excited for us to talk about their relationship and their
work because they're just some of the nicest, most talented,
wonderful people. So enjoy our conversation with Philip and Jennifer.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yes, this is kind of like our our nightly FaceTime
when we're in different areas of the world.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Crazy and now we get to just have a peak
of the beautiful relationship that.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Started on Glee.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Crazy. We're going to talk all about that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
First of all, thank you both for being here, like
two of our favorite people.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Very hard to coordinate with lots of schedules.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You guys are married yet on in different locations currently
and preppy for things and working on things, and it's.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Sort of the story of our life. Really.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
We we we we kind of have to coordinate where
we're going to be.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
We have a we have a little.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Bit of a rule that we try and not to
spend more than three weeks apart.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, very good.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It could probably get really easy to actually spend more
time apart than that.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I'm sure it's pretty intentional about it.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
You have to you have to plan it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, that's so smart. But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Let's back it up, rewind.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Hello, everybody, could you introduce yourselves and say what you
did on Glee.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
I'm Jennifer Music for Palmer. I am a set costumer.
I took care of half of the kids and everybody else.
I came in season two and was there until the end.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm I'm Philip Palmer. Uh and I
was the was and I still am a production sound mixer,
and I was part of the show from the jump.
I was there on the pilot and uh, I missed
two episodes in the middle because of a weird conflict
(03:21):
and then made it all the way to the end
real quick.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's crazy that show starting to like And here's an
Emmy for you, sir, immediately, Yeah, deserved, by the way.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Many questions about so many things. Where do we even begin?
It's like separately and then together, there's just a.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Lot let's go ically, Yeah, let's Philip, when you got
the gig? Like what what was that call?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
What?
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What are we doing? What was that like for you?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Okay, Yeah, I got a call from a a person
that I used to play on a softball team with.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And you never know who's gonna get you the job.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Never know, honestly, and uh he he knew that I
had I was a sound mixer, and that I probably
had some music, uh sort of playback history, which is
what we do when we, uh, when we do a
musical on on film and television. And he called and said,
(04:30):
I'm about to do this show with some people that
have never done a musical before, and it's all music.
I laughed, and I was on a movie at the time,
and we and it worked out that we we finished
the we finished shooting in the movie, and then I
(04:52):
rolled my equipment over basically to almost to to UH
to where we were going to do the uh the
the pilot, which we was not on stage.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
We shot it all over the place that's right, and the.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
You know, the the auditorium and much of the school
was sort of spread out over like three different schools.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It was like Burbank and Long Beach, And so we did.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
The pilot, which took us about a month to do
the pilot, and none of us really had any.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
I never met Ryan until day one.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Literally, that's crazy, because how vital what you do for
that show on a day to day base Like every
everybody is vitals from the show on a day to
day basis. But like you said, doing playback, doing sound
for a musical seems like an integral part of a musical.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Not a meeting, not a single meeting.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
And so we were all huddled in this It was
sort of a class room. I think it was in Burbank,
And the first scene we shot was Shuster sliding the
envelope of of right, the weed, the weed, that's right,
(06:18):
yeah to Corey. And that was and so I hear
a person sort of directing that must be Brian. Oh
that's how I's that's how I met Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
That makes so much sense.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, Oh my gosh, that's so crazy. I imagine.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
A kind of like made up your own rules of
like people came to you or like, so, how does
this work? How are we going to do this? And
they look to you. Had you come up with a
plan or was it this kind of like flying by
the seat like.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
The your pant? What is the saying thank you?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I had Donald quite a bit of playback and things before,
so I kind of knew what we had to do.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
But no one else did.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And so and I think the first musical thing we
did was brock in the boat.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
This was funny. So I got the you know, the
play that was before we could download things.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
This is a while ago, everybody, and.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
So right before we got there that they come to
me with a you know, a CD uh a disc
of Well, here's the tracks.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I was like, great, and.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
We loaded them up and and and everything, and then
I remember for the rehearsal, you hadn't nobody had. We
didn't do any like we ran through it one time
and we rolled the cameras, right.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, yeah, much for everything.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
And yeah, so I had the speakers in there, and
Ryan's in there, and.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I forget who our first d D was at that
point in time, but it.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Was Danny Danny Silverbrig and Danny looked at me and
I went, it's it's okay, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
And then it was action.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
We hit play and you guys did the thing, and
then it was cut and then I looked around and
and Ryan and everybody went, I guess that's how we're
doing our show. And it literally was like discovery for everyone.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
And yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It was great.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And when on the pilot when we figured out, I
mean they had Ian had a plan and they all
kind of had a thing. But when I saw what
the show was going to be, what was when you
all were sitting in the h in the seats for
(09:08):
vocal Adrenaline and then then they did the vocal Adrenaline number.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
And in your faces and I went that's our show.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, that's where we're like, wow.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
What a moment.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
How cool. We always talk about how because we were
all so green and all of you were, you know,
experts veterans. Yeah, and then our gauge during that time
was your guys' reactions to things and so like you
were all so nice and so encouraging from day one,
(09:45):
and we're like, is this good? Is this a thing?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, and you're like, I.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Think this is good. Like, okay, if you think this
is good, then it feels like it's good. But I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But we didn't know.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Enough to be like, oh, this is our sound person.
This is like asking them how it works. You know,
like we just we were just kind of going along
with what everybody was telling us to do and hit
a mark and say your line, and you know, do
these things and do these moves. So everybody was, I
feel like, kind of all in it together. Yeah, which
(10:18):
is interesting that Jen came on in season two because
the roller coaster had already we were already at the top.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So I'm curious to hear from your perspective.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Because we were little monsters by then you got.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
The job, and then what your experience is like coming
into the Monsters.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
A lot of Philip, like, they didn't used to be
like this.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
We know we started dating the end of season.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's free, guys.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You had no intel.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
So I came in. I interviewed for the job the
first time, sitting on the floor in Barnes and Noble
on the third Street promenade.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Yeah, because I was a phone interview with Marisa Aboities
who was our supervisor at the time, and Lou I
reg And then a couple days later I went into
the office and sat with lou and Marisa again and
interviewed for a little bit longer. But I just remember,
because I wasn't there for first season, I watched it
(11:24):
as a fan, and I would remember coming in. I
was working, I think, I was working on I don't know,
the New Class, I think, and I would come into
work every morning after the show and we would all
stand there and be like, how did they do that?
Shoot that show in eight days? Like basically, how.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Did they do that?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
We did that?
Speaker 6 (11:49):
We didn't I didn't know that. So then I go
in and I get this job, and I'm very excited
because I like singing and dancing and running around with
people and My first day was uh, New York at Bernstein.
That was my first day on Man.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
That was first day of season two.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
First day of season two was it Burns.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It was first day of season two, first day because
I remember how I felt in the trailer like, oh,
we're doing this. The show's a hit, Like, you know,
like we're doing a big number. It felt different.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That was a big one.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Yeah, it was huge. And I'm standing there and I'm
like and like Phil said, they just yelled action and
everybody just ran and did their thing, and I was like, oh,
so this is how we do this. Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Was it chaotic for you?
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:39):
It was because it was like especially, I mean that number.
You guys were essentially all in the same outfits, but
like we had to cut Amber's neck out of our shirt,
and we had to, you know, do all the individual
things to everybody's shirts, like.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The characterizations to the album.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yeah, all this the thing. We had to make sure
that Johnnah had you know, ninety two had gone lids,
and Amber had her shirt and seventy five jelly bracelets
and yah, you know, Lea's was perfectly fitted to her body,
and everybody just had their own little as as Jess
would call them their own little nannies that we had
(13:15):
to get everything ready, and then we just kind of
checked y'all out there.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
I just stood there and I was like, okay, so
this is my job.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Now, yeah, let's go. Well, there's just so many of us,
so like for people who don't.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Know, like, for what you do, you're literally waiting in
the wings for every take. In between every take, you're coming,
you're adjusting, you're fixing before we go on set. You're
making sure we have all of our ninnies and nunnies
and things like that you have, and then making sure
the continuity is right from scene to scene and making
sure we had the same ring on the same nail
(13:48):
polish color. So like, there's just so many intricate details
that like, people don't realize that you guys are the
ones responsible for in theory, even though we go off
and get our nail polish chain and that's not your
you're not guilty, you.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
So we take a week off and somebody goes and
gets super tan.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
When people ask me what my job is, I tell
them that I'm a glorified mom because your guys room
every morning, and then I scream at you to get dressed,
and then I chase you all around all day and
pick up the pieces that you've dropped, and yell at
Paul Crafty for serving tomato chili and you're wearing white coats,
and find all your things when you lose them, and
(14:41):
up all of your spills. And then I yelled your
shoes on, put your pajamas on, and then you know,
pick your clothes up. It's so only a couple off
the floor and put them on.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
You described the first day where it is sort of chaos,
and then it just happens like both of you in
every department is operating like their own little world inside
of a hurricane. Yes, And it's like all this stuff
is flying around you and you're just like, I'm going
to do my task and just show up. Both of
you are always so calm. I don't know how like
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either of you would do it like I don't.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
There was.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
There was. I certainly lost my ship a couple of times.
We all did.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
We all did.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
But honestly that that crew was so unified and so
good yes to bottom that it did. I think I
of the hurricane is kind of like what you see.
Like when people would visit, they were like, what are
y'all doing? Because everybody's doing all this stuff, and then
it kind of starts to slow down, and then it stops,
(15:57):
and then we do the thing and then the hurricane
starts again. Right, So true, and so that's kind of
what sort of our life is like, that's what you know.
But when somebody comes from the outside, they see it
and they feel like, you kid.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Even yeah, it seems like an impossible task. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, when you finally when showed up and you finally
got to see how the sausage was made, we're like, oh,
never mind, I would rather not know how this is done.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yeah, I just I was so I was so shocked
that you just it was just like, I mean, we
always joke that like one day we'll get on a
real show where it seems like there's a plan and
everybody knows, you know, there's never a plan. There's always
this ages of a plan.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, structure.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
You know, we just kind of went out and did
it and then it was, you know, sixteen hours later
we were going home.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, yeah, and then you realized, oh, we're on day nine.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Of eight, day ten, and a half.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Oh my gosh, she was warned about me.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, so let's get into this because you know, here's
the thing. The point of this podcast really is to
talk about you know, in the public and the media,
you hear about all the bad things and people don't
know about the incredible things that happened on the show.
And one of those things is your guys' relationship. So
(17:31):
take us back, what happened? How did this happen?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Say what? So?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Like you when you start a new job, there's a
couple of departments that you always make friends with. Like
I always make friends with the guy that drives my
truck because I need to know where we're going and
what time, and it makes friends with the craft service
people because they're going to feed me. And then I
make friends with the sound department because I need them
to be my friend when yes, Naya's where a teeny
(18:00):
tiny dress and I need to be there while they're
getting wired or when you know whatever, somebody has a
finicky tie or somebody just doesn't like to be wired
or whatever. So I always go and make friends with
the sound apartment. So I was talking to our trailer
person Jessica Pasternick, who was in the background a minute
ago and says hello, but I will.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
But so I was talking to her like, you know,
I need you to introduce me to the sound people,
and she's like, oh, so, I mean they're great. Our
sound mixer kind of hates us because of Jenna's bubble
dress last season.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I was like, it's my fat I'll never stop telling
this story.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
So and I think I think you've talked about it
on this show, with the little plastic bubbles and how
every time she moved they clicked and I do remember.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Still running out during that.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Something me.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
So that was like halfway through last season, and last
season was like a year and a half ago by
this point. I'm like, it's gonna be all right. And
I walk in and I find my spot and I
you know, Ark shows me where to set up and everything,
and I walk over and uh, I walk over and
I introduced myself and I was like, you know, I
(19:35):
I'm Jennifer. I'm going to be the set person this year.
And he was like, great, as long as we don't
have another bubble dress, should be fine. And I'm like
to me, that was our first interaction.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Wow, that bubble dress lives on to me.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, it brings me so much joy and so much
pets be at the same time.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Something that came out of it, Jenna.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
True God was so funny.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Wow, how I meant, how does courtship work in this situation?
Because you know, it's a little it's like a small town.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It's closing and people are talking.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, like, well, we.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Didn't actually, we didn't start any anything at all until
wrap after second season, and she was a summer of love, some.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Of love and some of American horror story.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Also, yeah, the pilot.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
So but we were wrapping Glee and it was right
before you guys, so you finished season two on the
show and then you all immediately went to Las Vegas
tour tour.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yeah, so we were and a bunch of people were
going to Las Vegas for your first show and then
fell kinds on the on the trailer, which is unusual,
but not out of the realm of possibility, you know. Yeah,
So he was, you know, talking to us, and then
he asked me if I wanted to go grab a coffee.
(21:22):
I was like, well, that's weird, but sure, I like coffee.
So we went over to the coffee bean on the lot.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yes, and he knew that I.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Was one of the people that was going to Las
Vegas to like see you guys, and he had an
extra ticket to the show. And I wasn't planning on
going to the show. I was just going to go
to the after party with everyone. But so you did
first date?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, No, was your.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Guys' opening night of the door?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
This is what Lehanna was singing about, was or.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
The insuing after party.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Was riven?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Yeah? Yeah, my Now we did the pilot together.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
And a horror story.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
The rest is history history.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You can love. At the Glee tour, everyone you hear that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You can survive anything you beg ever since.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Oh my gosh, what was it like?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Did you guys tell people when you started dating, like
within the like because it's such a small town and
within our crew and like we worked every waking moment together.
What was it like working together dating and then also
including everybody else in on the relationship.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Well? I actually called Jessica from the cab on the
way home after the Gleat tour that okay, like texted
her and she was for some reason awake. It was
like four o'clock in the morning. She knew. She knew
from the job, because after we came back from coffee
(23:17):
that day, she was like, what was that?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
She really does, she really does.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
And then I did the uh season three I don't
remember what they're called, the photo shoot thing that we
have to do before recess.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
I was yeah with Kelly Mitchell, I don't know, you
just were all in each other's pockets all day anyways,
So kind of everybody figured it out on their own,
for sure, for sure. Funny.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
It was funny when Ryan figured it out.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh my god, how did tell us that?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Well, we're walking I don't know where.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
We were walking to the commissary, walking in the Commary.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And and I don't know, I kind of grabbed your
hand or something, and we hear this from from behind us.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Are you two in love?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Very Ryan, very very yeah, And he loves to know.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
The gossip.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
His days. You make a friend like that.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
How long then have you been together?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
What is the math on that?
Speaker 6 (24:28):
It's going to be fourteen years in June?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It really ages us too, because when did you guys
get married?
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Twenty eighteen, so post.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Glee finale dated for a while.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And then yeah, yeah, does this still work after Glee?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And have you guys worked together since Glee?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
We've dy played together, but we haven't managed you get
on another show together. Yeah, because you know, he went
to New Mexico and I've never seen him again.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Right right, hardly?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, I've been doing a lot of shows out of town,
which Jennifer does a lot now too, But I started
working with a set of producers that like to do
stuff in New Mexico and I do that.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
In between the.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Season five and season six, I jumped onto a show
that ended up going for a long period of time.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Wow. Yeah, you have hits after.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Hits, he does.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I would like to publicly apologize Philip because I did
something severely unprofessional one day. Oh and I sometimes still
wake up in a cold sweat about it, because Philip
does not deserve that.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You've talked.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, Naya and I it was before Thanksgiving break. I
have told the story before, but I need to say
this to Philip's face. Nya had sent me a voice
recording it was very inappropriate, like earlier in the week,
and when we were on like our seventeen, we'd start
(26:34):
playing it to each other and I cannot say what
it is, because absolutely would I would never ever work again.
But it was at the time joke between me and
I and some of the cast. And then one day
when we were shooting this number, I think it was
before Thanksgiving break or something, and we were all like,
you know, not going to make our flights home or
(26:56):
whatever it was ny and I decided to distract Philip
and then I plugged in my phone to play the
voice message over the PA system, which is not okay.
(27:17):
And I am very sorry because then you ran back
like there was a fire, because that was the equivalent
of a fire.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It was.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Philip kept his department very professional. Yes, of all the departments,
I feel like sound was the most professional.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yes, I know, I don't look it was a momentary lapse.
It was I didn't like. I woke up the next
day after like sleeping, and I was like, what the
did I just do to all the people? Of all people?
What that? I was like, I am so sorry. I
(27:56):
thought that was funny, but I'm a child. That was
so stupid. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Apology accepted.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I knew it was bad when even I was like
even she was like, I don't think we should have
done that because like because her bar yes of like
she really.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Likes like she's like, no, I do that.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And then I looked at her face and she's like,
what did you do? And I'm like, oh no, I'm
like I read this situation very incorrectly.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, it's okay. It's very out of character for you.
It's okay.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Do you remember when I had to come and apologize
to you?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Oh my god, Oh yes, yeah I was.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
I was equally as freaked out.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
It was so it was so so we were all
it was like me, Chris, maybe Amber. There were a
handful of us, you know, when we had our cash
chair set up in the teacher's lounge and we're miked
all the time, but you can speak.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
To this can I set the stage? So we're we're.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Doing a choir room scene and you know, it's it's
basically a theater set up and somebody in front, right,
So we shoot one side and then the other.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
That's how we do it in filmmaking.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
But when we shoot out out towards say, say it's
mister shoe.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Sometimes we pluck a person out and we put the
camera there and it's my cruise responsibility to let me
know when somebody might not be in the in the
scene because I'm raising their mics up and doing all
these things. And so it came we rolled, and it
(30:07):
came time for Kevin's line, his one line for the scene,
and I raise up the mic and you say.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I'm bisexual, Kevin or something like that, and then.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Which was not his line.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And then I pulled the microphone down and I broke
into like flop slip, and.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
We just carried on the scene like nobody heard it.
And so we cut and I hear the microphone.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Boom sliding back down, and Patrick Martin's my boom operator
at the time, was laughing so hysterically.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Because he was I am so sorry Kevin is not on.
Where is he? He said, uh, in the in the
other room.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And so I went in and I had to tell
the story. And because I have this thing, I'm professional,
it's like everybody's wearing a mic all the time. I
do not raise the mics up, unless I mean I
might just to check it, but I never raised them up.
And so I did that, and I could see everybody
(31:37):
in video village went, you know, They're like.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I didn't know everybody heard yeah, everybody, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
If there's anybody you're going to do that to, Kevin
is the right person.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I remember you running up to me and you looked
horrified and you were apologizing, and I was a saying
like stupid ship about each other.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
You were, you were, you were.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Everybody was saying what what their uh new screen name
would be, and.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yours, yours was gonna be I'd be bisexual. And it
was like the perfect It was like a perfect cut.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I was like, that is so odd because for context here,
like we're not in the same location, we're not that far,
but like we're talking freely, like we're far enough away
where we can talk freely and not be caught on sound,
and like we're sitting in the dark, just like I
was laying on the floor. We're all just like sort
of like shooting the ship. And then I guess I
(32:44):
said that at the perfect.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Time and everybody in the village and I.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Was not like publicly like out at the time. So
the film was like very sweet about running over and apologizing.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
I was so I was mortified.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
It's also like I am Mike and I said something
so like you know.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah, you know I try and protect my actors.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, so you.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Know what you call it, even it feels like it
was worse, Jenn, I feel like we had a lot
of really wild episodes with crazy costumes, yes, including Jenna's
bubble dress.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Yeah. But there was two when Becca tore her cat suit, yes,
in her face in that episode because she takes the
whip and she does this and she was wearing a
latex it's a latex fetish suit, let's call it what
(33:49):
it actually is, and it ripped in the armhole here
but her face because I don't know where I was standing,
but I was in the room, I guess, because she
looked dead at me with the widest eyes that you've
ever seen on Beca Toobin and she froze with their
arm out and she just stood there, and I just
(34:10):
remember looking at Leo and going, Leo, we're gonna need
a minute.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Well because also there you got that from like what
a center store? Probably, and yeah, there was only one.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
We didn't there was only one. So we got Becca
out of it. We threw Ben in his car heading
toward the store in Silver Lake to go get another one.
And meanwhile, there's a pic I have a photo somewhere
of me on the trailer with our seamstress. But it's latex,
so you can't sell it back together or anything. And
(34:41):
if you blew it, which you can do, it takes
forever to cure. So like there's nothing we can do.
And I'm sitting there with like electrical tape pretending like
I'm gonna be able to fix this, which I'm definitely not.
Weill Ben like runs across town to get another one
and hurry back. So we shot somebody else's superhero. Yeah,
(35:01):
we got another one, yeah, because there was no background
because it was just the band, and so that.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I got her here, right, her and Melissa during that yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Yeah, So there was that one. And then when we
did Grease the second time, uh sentence right, Vanessa l
cl climbed on top of the sheep shack during You're
the One that I Want and ripped her pants, like
(35:37):
pants on like I don't even know what they were.
They were like, I don't know, some sort of silk,
very fitted, and she climbed on top of the shake
shack and was like, you know, doing her Vanessa moves
and ripped her pants and she game same thing. She
stopped and she looked and Chess was on set at
that time too, and she looked at both of us
(35:57):
and she was like, came down and we had this
sower pants back up and more of that. We're on
top of the shakeshack. But those are my two, like
the yeah and then the pants Leah's pants.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
It was during Brave Yeah, and we made them last
minute because the costume got changed last minute and they
were beating Chiffon and every time she moved they shredded.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
And it was.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Not during a good it was during it was a
bad day, five bad times. Thankfully. It was Brad Beaker directing,
and it was I think it was like a Friday
or something. It was towards the end of the week
because it was very late and it was it was
(37:02):
it was after midnight. I think we wrapped. It was
super late. And I went up to Brad Meeker afterwards
and I was like, I am so sorry because it
was a mess. The whole thing. The pants were shredded.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
It was bad.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
And Brad was like, why are you apologizing?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
You didn't do anything.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
I was like yeah, but he's like, no, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That number turned great. Watch amazing.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
I can't watch it. There's that that is when when
people ask me what my worst day on set was,
it's that one every time. Yeah, it was. It was very,
very very bad.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
And that.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
It was just uh Nya and Leah and some of
the other so and dancers. So Rourke wasn't there. I didn't.
It was just me in bed and so Ben and
I are trying the same thing. Was fun. If you
try to sew it, you put in a hole in
it into shreds more. I think at one point we
had it. We taped it together with gaff.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Tape, just like.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
And everybody don't understand, Like everybody's just waiting to finish
the scene to go home.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
There's hundreds of people there.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Doing their jobs and it's like the pressures on for everybody,
just like get it done, just.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Get it done home.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
And especially because I think it was a Friday, because
and it was so late, and yeah, that was my
worst day on set ever.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I have a question for uh for you, Fela.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I we most almost all TV shows, we talked about
this a lot.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I don't have a d R.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
And for people who don't know what ADR is, acters
after they finished an episode will go in and six
sound lines, things that you know that didn't get properly
recorded during the shoot. I can count on my thumb
one finger the one time I had to do ADR. Now,
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when we tell other people, other actors on TV shows
that we did never did ADR, their mouths are on
the floor. They're like, how so, I'm curious for you
why we never had to do ADR? And was it
you figured out the magical thing because you're a magical
(39:34):
unicorn in what you do, or was it that we
didn't have time and somebody was like, just make it work.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I have to know.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I've been dying too the answers since we wrapped.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
It's a fun fact to like brag to other actors
about because I think I maybe did it once. Maybe
thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
First of all, Jane Lynch kind of has done that before,
or she said that to me and she didn't have
to do any ADR and they called her in one
time and she said finally and she got there and
they said, oh, no, we're adding a line.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Didn't say.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
She was like, oh, that means that you didn't wait,
you know.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And that's a whole separate thing.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
It's a whole separate thing. I don't really know.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I knew early on it had been presented to me
that Ryan really does not like a dr I, so
I used I used that as a little bit of
a way for me to go, I think I need
another one or I need this little section.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
So I keep.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Very and I do this for every show, not just Lee,
but I go through the script while we're doing it.
I have like I have my mixing panel, and you
guys know, you guys used to come and hang around me,
and I would have the sides up, which are MANI
versions of the script, and and I literally check them off,
like we got that one clean, we got that one clean,
(41:02):
we got that clean.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
I'm missing these two.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Lines and that and you guys remember me coming in
and go, I need a wild line. Yeah, and we
go and we'd get that line wild and we go great, thanks.
And so I would literally check off every line because
it was relayed to me very early on that Ryan
wasn't a fan of ADR, and I think it was
mostly because they didn't they didn't spend a lot of
(41:27):
time working with good ADR people, because ADR can be great,
for sure, and it can save a scene. But I
don't think Ryan had had great experience with that, and
so I took it upon myself to to and it
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was known.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
You know, the producers knew it, and everybody knew it.
They're like, oh, yeah, he doesn't like it.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
So I would say that, I'd be like, I need
two lines and I need it from this, and then
usually when I do that, they would say, oh, let's
just do it again.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (42:03):
And then we would do another take and then it
would be clean and I'd be like, got it.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
So a lot of the way production is.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Done now and I won't say this all the time,
but they will blast through it and because you know,
time is money and they know that they can they
know with good adr they can fix it, and so
it's in my best interest to try and get it,
you know, right the first time.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
But that was.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Really sort of the rule on Glee from the jump
was that, uh, everybody checked with me before we moved
on because of Ryan and and I think it paid
off because I thought I thought the show sounded really good.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
It sounded really good.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Yeah, we also like didn't have the time, Like I
can't even imagine in my head then being like, hey,
you guys at the end of the day, like you
have to go to a dr I don't know when
we would have done it.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
No, it was even like they built that new like
building next to our stages where we're doing some adr
we didn't. I remember like the one or two times
I ever had to do it. It was so difficult to
even schedule for me to walk across an alley basically
to go do that. So it's phenomenal that because I
remember doing those wildlines and things like that. Yeah, it
(43:22):
takes twenty seconds and you're done. You're in the same
spot that you just shot in there. Yeah, when it
came to the music stuff, because you said you had
done music before, because obviously we get asked a lot
(43:42):
about were you guys singing live? Were you singing to
pre recorded tracks? Like obviously we were lips sinking ninety
nine percent of the time. There's a couple exceptions in there.
But when it went from you getting CDs to you
probably be downloading the files, and I could see like
(44:03):
you would have you when you get stems, they send
you stems of everything, because sometimes we wouldn't know what
we recorded because we record so quickly, and like I
remember going over to you a lot of the times
being like what are my ad libs? Like, I it down,
no idea. I did one take of that and I
don't know, and it's like mixed in a way orm
like I can't really hear it. And the beauty of
(44:24):
it you could literally pull up any vocal, any piece,
which was so brilliant as opposed to just you know,
starting pressing play and then we just had to do it.
Like what was that like for you?
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Well, it didn't start out that way.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
It started out with I would get a just a
mixed two track and so and that happened like the
first uh, first thirteen episodes was I was just getting
a mixed and so after that when we got the
pick because I don't know, maybe you've talked about it before, but.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
It took us like two years to do the first season.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, it was a very long time.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
It was a very long time because I we did
the pilot and then several months later we came back
and did the first thirteen and it started airing and
it and it was like a home run. And then
so there was like three months off before we came
back and did the back nine. So really from start
to finish of the first season was like two was.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Like, yeah, it was a long time.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
And so when we came back, before we came back
for the back nine, I said, I can't we can't
have I can't just get a radio version of this.
I have to have the music split out because I've
got to feed music. If I need the drummer to
actually have the intro that is playing on the thing,
I got to be able to play that for him
(45:41):
smart right then. And I need the backgrounds completely separate
because I need to be able to pull the backgrounds
out when we're doing y'all's you know, close ups, because
sometimes the backgrounds are like there's like nineteen voices and
you can't you can't hear what you're doing. And so
(46:02):
we would so from the first thirteen to the back nine,
that's television talk from.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Uh that's how we used to do TV.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
And uh.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
So we had a meeting with the music editor, Dave Klass,
who's just brilliant and he's had, I think, build a
like a new wing onto his house for all of
his zammi's and it's like he comes home and read them,
you know, but.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
He he we developed this sort of.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Work, you know, flow that had you know, I had
everybody's everybody in the cast vocal separate, and there the
effects on that vocal separate, because sometimes they had all
these effects on it and we don't need to hear that.
(46:57):
You just need to hear what you're doing. So I
could I could change the effects level. Every single one
of the cast members was a separate split out, and
all the backgrounds were its own split out, and then
the music was its own, and and then anything that
was weird, like something that was additional, like an intro
or everything, they would have that on. And so I
(47:20):
had it all split out on a big pro tool session.
And so yeah, so we had a rig. And so
as you started being savvy to it about season two
or three, you guys would just come over the card
and go, can I hear my background?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, we never get to hear any of them.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah. It was like a little cheat code even if
I didn't have to. I'm like, what is Amber doing here?
Can you just play that one time for me?
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Oh, she's doing even more okay?
Speaker 5 (47:54):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
And Ambers was like a favorite for us to solo
and hear because they were nuts.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
My gods, was just crazy honor.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
That's the thing, like the gift that we got to
just go hang out with you and like solo these things.
It was. It was like one of my favorite parts
of those days. I'm like, I hope I have more things,
like an excuse to go, Like I didn't want to
bother you. I was like, if I had an excuse
to go listen to something, if it was like not
my part, it really had to be like worth it.
(48:27):
And so I'm like, yeah, like what is Amber doing? Please?
Speaker 5 (48:30):
I remember that?
Speaker 4 (48:31):
And then I remember you coming by because there was
some gnarly background vocals on something, and You're like, I
want to hear these backgrounds. So we sell and we
play them and they're like who is that?
Speaker 6 (48:42):
You know?
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It was nobody, these magical people who like we've never met,
we don't see at all, but they're singing their faces
off and this is the only time we get to
experience them.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
And then when we would do like you know, one
of the big you know, competition things a sexual we
would have this massive thing because we want between so
we would have this pro tool session and that's like
tech talk for you know, music stuff. Uh, And it
was this massive thing. So I kinda I got a
(49:16):
little sweaty at times, because I mean, pro tools is
kind of at that point in time was very famous
for shutting down.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
And right in the middle of right.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Right at the worst possible moment, when there's like a
thousand people there, and so we we always had a
backup going. We didn't have a going, but we had
it there, so if it shut down, we'd be like,
we need a second and then we could.
Speaker 5 (49:39):
Swap it out.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Crazy.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
Yeah, it was we. I feel like so.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Much to think about that. People don't realize.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
We just really we were winging it a lot.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
Because there was there would be times, would you know,
Beaker would come up like, I.
Speaker 5 (49:57):
Know I didn't ask you for this, but how hard
would it be to play this backwards?
Speaker 2 (50:05):
I didn't know you did good impressions. You know, everybody's
like body language down.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
And remember when we did, like, uh, the song backwards?
You guys saying it backwards?
Speaker 2 (50:20):
What song was that?
Speaker 5 (50:21):
I forget what it was. It was Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
It was Michael Jackson. It was in the hallway. It
was in the main hallway. Doesn't want to be starting something.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
I might even want to be starting something.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Ye, I can't remember, but he was like, I want
to do it backwards because.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
If you do it backwards and then you.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
Play it it and then you play it forwards, it
has this weird motion.
Speaker 5 (50:48):
So we would do all of these things.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Like the double time when they do the song.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, that was that was.
Speaker 5 (50:54):
That was like the first time we did that. They're like,
how hard.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I love that. I was like, I've done this before
because you were the one.
Speaker 5 (51:03):
You were the person that had done that sort of thing,
and I was.
Speaker 6 (51:06):
Well, and you could always nail it because I think
we did the backwards one, and when you nailed the
backwards the one, you like jumped up and down like
for twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
You loved those things. I was just like I would
get sent because at first when I first got sent,
because there's like a not to get too nerdy about this,
but there was like a debate if we do it
like one and a half times or two times or
two and a half times, and I was like these
two are way too fast. I'm like that doesn't sound right,
and like I don't know what it's supposed to be.
But I was so scared because it also like the
(51:37):
early days, I'm like I would show up and do
a good job. Yeah, but I'm like, oka, look at
it like dancing up myself. I'm like this out there.
I loved doing it. The challenge of it was so fun.
Speaker 5 (51:50):
It was fun.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
And and so when we started doing that, so all
of the sessions got even bigger because I had them
do a double time. God, a one and a half
and a double time, and so like all of these
crazy things. And so we we were just like because
anytime we saw something cool on a music video on YouTube,
(52:12):
they'd be like, let's do that, right, yeah, And so
that's and and so you know, we became that show.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
We were that, Yeah, we've done it. We've done it all,
We've seen it all.
Speaker 5 (52:25):
It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
Do you have any favorite musical numbers that we did, like,
either that you were involved it or just like watching
dinosaur proms?
Speaker 6 (52:37):
Just the ones that I the ones that are near
to my heart are the ones that were so awful
and that we were standing there. I cannot believe that
we're doing this. So dinosaur prom with the heads with
which just still has in her backyard by the way,
Yes she has the dinosaur heads.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (53:02):
It was a Christmas one with you with Jenna and
Melissa and alex Y Child.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Never forget that one was were you there for singing
in the rain?
Speaker 6 (53:18):
I know I wasn't there. I was on the other
unit with Carol Burnett and.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
All right.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Then you were lucky, lucked out because that.
Speaker 6 (53:37):
Was the water.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
The water was something special by the time we fit
with the amount of stuff they put in it so
that it wouldn't fall.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
I mean we were the water was boaming, We.
Speaker 6 (53:51):
Had rain boots.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
Probably immune system is so bad, Kevin, sitting in the
water basically.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Just getting sitting in the back, are just collecting in
my lap.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Oh we would like cover our take our roomoods and
just like the water would pour out.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Or the slushies for both of you, Yeah, my god,
good question, Kevin.
Speaker 6 (54:13):
Well, for him that's so bad because the minute we
said slushies, you took the wire.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Off years out because it was weird. But for me,
I mean, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (54:25):
So well you got more anybody, the two of you.
Speaker 6 (54:30):
We really did, Kevin, that one with the hockey players,
and you got I don't know what was it, like
fifteen slushies poured on you. You were sking, you were blue,
which is ironic because the slushies were red, but we
would set up like me, like costumes and hair and
makeup would set we'd find wherever the closest room was
to where the slushi was going to happen. We would
(54:52):
shove everybody out of the way and we would declare
it hours because what would happen. And you guys have
talked about this a little bit is after are you
pour all the slushies? Everybody has to wait so that
we can take photos in case we ever have to
match this, which sounds insane, but we had to match
Jenna when she got Carrie at the prom because we
shot the after part where she changed dresses before we
(55:15):
shot the prom part, before we shot the actual thing.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
So yeah, so we'd have to freeze like so they
would say action slushy and then.
Speaker 6 (55:28):
They would be standing there like shaking from cold and
eyes closed, scrunched face because you're cold and it's in
your face and it's in your eyes and because you
don't want to get at your mouth yep, and die.
And we were learing there taking pictures because we're horrible people, and.
Speaker 5 (55:46):
Also tried to fake slushy at one time. But it
looks so bad.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
It looks so bad.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
It was.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
They were like would just bounce right off.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
I appreciate the thought that they but I just wasn't
the same effect.
Speaker 6 (56:03):
So then we'd shove you into a room and like
you know, Kelly would have hot towels and I would
just start like pulling your clothes off because you'd be
so cold, and then we'd wrap.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
Rip down your body, like all the way down to your.
Speaker 6 (56:19):
Your undergarments, like everything would be. It was.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
I always felt so bad. I was like, they shouldn't
have to rub us down, Like this shouldn't be part
of your job.
Speaker 6 (56:30):
Well, no, because then we just have to get you
dressed and put you back out there you do it again.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah, but they were like I just remember people like
fully cleaning off my like limbs because they were dyed red.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Yeah, like that's not fair, So like it's yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (56:46):
Was like it was in your chair that day.
Speaker 6 (56:49):
Was that I never felt worse for a human in
my life than Kevin McHale And with seven teams off
your leg.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
I had never been slushy before.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
I never. It was absolutely my fault.
Speaker 6 (57:07):
Brand.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, he's like, well I'll take care of that one exactly.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
Waiting for those photos to be taken was the worst.
Speaker 6 (57:16):
Didn't hurt when it hit you from for carry at
the problem because it was so high up.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, it was like a buckets word, so it hurts.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
And it felt so like like shards of ice, like
your face down your dress, like it came straight down
on me and it just felt like I was being
hit with icicles.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
Basically.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
It was terrible and of course it so it's right
in and just sat in my dress. It was awful.
It was awful, and we did it twice. I thought,
like for sure this one they weren't going to have.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
To do again, and they did.
Speaker 6 (57:53):
We did it twice, Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
Then like at some point got smart and like if
you had to work the rest of the day, they
would offer the gym, the paramount shower. But at some
point I think we were all like whatever, just like
wipe me down and keeping shaving cream and oh yes,
we we learned that you guys learn was it makeup
(58:17):
that learned that the dye comes off with shaving.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yeah, so they were.
Speaker 6 (58:21):
Just cheap old kind like the fancy new.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
Job the old yeah white because it also.
Speaker 6 (58:27):
Gets off it gets movie blood as well.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
Oh interesting science. Fair enough.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
I got to work with Jen again.
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Yes, which was.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Oh yeah, that was honestly, Like Ryan called and asked
if I would do this American horror story things. Yeah,
of course sure. But the best perk, to be honest
was like seeing some of the and Melissa, Yes, it was.
I was, I'm like a professional what I just wanted
(59:00):
to be like, so tell me everything, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (59:04):
It was. I was so excited when they told me
that you were going to be on that I I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (59:10):
I was.
Speaker 6 (59:11):
Ben and I were so stoked. We couldn't wait for
that episode.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
I think the fam is back together.
Speaker 6 (59:16):
Yeah, and the rest of the guys that were in
that episode, we were so fun. And it was just
like where I could just like yell and be like, hey,
somebody go get catch so somebody will go wake Kevin
up because he's sleeping on the ground in the corner.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
In that room. And I mean people that didn't know
us would like look at us, and She's like it's.
Speaker 6 (59:36):
She keeps talking to him like that like he's one of.
Speaker 2 (59:39):
No no, no, no no no, she knows this.
Speaker 6 (59:41):
I yelled at Kevin from across the parking lot one
time to go change his clothes because I wanted to
go home like.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
We have here. It was great. I really loved it.
And also to like, you know, so step into somebody
else's show, even though every episode was different. It's like
a weird thing. And to be able to like be
there with you who just felt like, oh, we're doing
this again, and then we put.
Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
You in a tub and we poured ice on you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Well, I was like, fine, nothing.
Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
I asked the prop people and I was like, wait,
is it real ice or is it silicon ice? And
they kind of looked at me like why is she
asking this?
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I just have to know for sure you don't know.
So we asked everybody this question separately, together however you
want to answer it. What is the feeling that Glee
leaves you with?
Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
Oh, I mean, go ahead, Bunny, go ahead, Bunny.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
We're married.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
It's like you guys know each other or somethings.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
I mean, there's there was this statement constantly by the
feeling of joy. You know that that was what being
a part of a glee club is. And I honestly
feel like being a part of that crew from start
(01:01:08):
to finish, I mean what it was like a family, family,
like I've never experienced. And we talk about it a
lot about how you know everybody.
Speaker 6 (01:01:26):
I mean, the last night, the last song in our
reception was I Lived Yep, yep, because it was and
it was our version, because of course it was. It
was like the cheesiest thing that we did. But I
had we met on the show. Also, the lyrics to
that song are actually quite good for the final song
(01:01:48):
of your wedding reception. But yeah, like that, this is
I still work with these people. They're still my people.
And I mean, I I know you guys are all
grown adults, but you're still my kids.
Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Total.
Speaker 6 (01:02:03):
Every one of you are still my kids. Great, and
I am so proud because that was such an It
was an incredible show. Yes, was a dramatic Did we
all fight, Yes, because we're our family and we all
fight with everybody, but nobody else is going to fight.
Nobody else is going to say anything bad because.
Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
The exactly we protect that. Yeah, I mean it is like.
Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
I can't say that I can no, no, I can't,
but you cannot.
Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Yeah, no, it was That's so sweet. Yeah, it's really
really sweet. Yeah, we feel the same.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
It's kind of why we view the show is like, yeah,
just to make sure that people know that the real story,
you know, not what you hear, because there's a lot
of I.
Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
Mean, there was definitely a tragedy and drama and anger
and fighting and everything, but we were together, you know,
seventy hours for seventy hours a week for six years,
really more than that. But like, yeah, you don't fight
with people that. You don't not fight with people you're with.
Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
That much to not realityating's just like taking out on
the people that were closest with, you know, exactly that
kind of feeling where you get it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
We're all going to have bad days.
Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
But everybody had a great time if you ask them.
Everybody talks about how much fun it was, and everybody
was at their their best. And the crew that we had,
I mean from our pas and up until you know,
our dps and the producers and everybody, like you know,
they were all bringing their best every day. Yeah, that's
(01:03:42):
I also had really really really talented people.
Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
This this feels validating, you know. It's like we always
say this, and it's nice to hear other people other
departments who were on the show for as long as
both of you were. Yeah, to say the exact same
things that we always say to each other.
Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Oh it was.
Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
It was, I mean one of the most enjoyable periods
of the time of my life. I'm always going to
talk about it, you know, I talk about it like
it was yesterday. And then when people also, when people
find out that that I or we were on Glee,
they they're like, how did you do that show? Because honestly,
(01:04:24):
so many other shows have tried to do it not
well right, And it's really it was really hard, and
it was a little bit of lightning in a bottle
that we managed to be able to kind of keep
going for a while. And I'm incredibly you know, fortunate.
We are incredibly fortunate to have been part of it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Same, Well, we were so lucky to have such a
great crew truly, you know, everybody was really the top
of their game, but also just.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Like really good people.
Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
So to have that, I think that was part of
lightning in the models, like the chemistry of all that.
Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Yes, and it dated what it was people just see,
you know what's on the TV. But that chemistry was around.
Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
The thousands of things happening and the hurricane you or
the tornado. Yeah, well we know you guys are so busy,
literally like on sets prepping to do other things. So
we really appreciate you taking the time to come on
the show and talk with us and share your story.
And it's just so cute and we really love you guys,
and we miss you and it's so good to see
you and thanks for something on.
Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Yeah, of course, I'm so glad to do it for
so much too.
Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
By they were such integral parts of our show. I
mean everybody was, but like such integral parts and like
so many memories I have include them, oh yeah. And
then also like their story of how cute they are
and how they met and they dated and they got
married and like their story continues that started on our
show is so special.
Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
There's not every department that you interact with so often
with every show too, but yeah, we interacted with them
specifically personally, yes, every day, all day.
Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Yeah. Yeah, well, thank you so much to Phil and Jen.
Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
They were even in separate locations, both doing their own work,
because that's how the industry works, and they took the
time to talk of this.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
So thank you guys so much, and I hope you
guys enjoyed this episode.
Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
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