April 14, 2025 • 68 mins
Pop culture guru, OG to the podcast game, and Glee superfan DJ Bob Runkel is bringing his unique brand of fun to the pod!
As a wheelchair user with Cerebral Palsy, DJ Bob reflects on what it meant to him to see a main character like Artie on-screen and shares his thoughts on Kevin playing the role.
Bob reveals the episode that inspired him to work hard in physical therapy so he could walk across the stage at his high school graduation, the fun story of crossing paths with Kevin during his NLT days, and the hard-hitting questions and pop culture references that blow Jenna and Kevin away!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast. Today,
we have a very special gleek. It's DJ Bob Bruncle.
DJ Bob Brunkle. You will learn knows everything about everything,
and when I mean everything about everything. Our jaws were
on the ground midway through this episode, so I never
(00:30):
got put back up.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I truly am just in awe of him, and I
also am intimidated by She'll learn And we are super
excited for you guys to hear this episode. And yeah,
he's really incredible, So.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm in awe. Yeah, we're big fans over here, big
big advance. You're not gonna want to miss this episode.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Look at that hat.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Captain Crew hat right there?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Oh my god, what did you already have?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
What can I share?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Welcome?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, thank you Bob so much for being here. We
are newbies at this podcasting thing. Compared to you, you
are a veteran, and so thank you for letting us
into your medium.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
You know, it's funny because everybody says, you know, you're
a pioneer. You've been doing this for a year, can like,
but now we keep like the podcasting world has blown up.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, you had your Yeah, you had your
exactly you knew what was going to happen. How did
you How did you start podcasting? Actually, originally because you
did start the idea.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Come, I was a pop culture nerd. I was the
kid who would would camp out at the store to
buy no string attached on release day. Yes, and you know,
because of my physical disability, pop culture was really my
(02:25):
way in to the world. So instead of like being
sad about it, I thought, what could I do and
just do a show based on what I love?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah? Yeah, for sure. And you've had some amazing guests.
You recently had one of my good friends, David Archieleta
on Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
That was fun, very exciting.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh yeah, speaking of I mean pop culture. Grew up
with him on American Idol.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Saw me fantastic, It's so good.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I totally I ran into him on Saturday night and
was totally just being a fan. I was like, David,
this new song is great, so good.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It's very different for him.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I feel like the joy of the pop culture world
is that it's ever changing, ever evolving, and there's always
something new for you to cover and to become a fan.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Because I do a lot of like children's entertainment. I
know the Session three people, I know pretty much anybody
that you grew up with. For the past thirty five years,
I've probably spoken to every once.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well wow, well you know I was on Sesame.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I do know.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
As the pop culture guru over here.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
See, I always say I have always had so much
useless pop culture information in my head. But I think
I have clearly been beaten. This is I am nothing
compared to Bob I know too much information, no such thing.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Have you watched Celebrity Jeopardy?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yes, because my brother turned me on to it, who
is a big pop culture drunkie as well, and he
knows like a lot of a lot of really great information,
and all.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Told me to audition for that yeah culture Jeopardy thing,
and yeah, I couldn't get in.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Oh no, I feel like they were like, he's she
just knows too much.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
He would have ripped them all.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
But it's really fun and it's very it's very pop
culture from me.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, so obviously you're a Glee fan.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, tell us about how you discovered it, where you
were like, what like in time and just tell us
about the first time and your experience like seeing Glee.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I could tell you specifically because it would be night.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
One premiere wow wow og.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And I was telling you how all my pop culture
world collided. Glee was really at the forefront of everything
pop culture more than any other show I feel, because
it was all encompassing and and Glee came at a
(05:34):
point where I was in eighth no seventh grade when
the finaliated or when the when the premiere happened, So
it was very much I grew, I grew with it,
and definitely it's been with me for that long.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Crazy and tell tell me about seeing Artie for the
first time in the show.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
That was cool. Thank you and people here. When I
when I do interviews with people, people asked me if
I was ever like offended because you weren't in a chair.
(06:31):
I reached a kapiti the representation. I didn't care. I mean,
I knew you. I even knew you before, like I
knew from n l T. I go like, I have
a story about that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
My god, we share this.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
We met before during n LT.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Where did we meet?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
So one of my influences at the time was another
radio show for children on AOL and they had a
deal with Geffen Ye have any of their talent would
(07:29):
appear on the show by default and if we and
I think all the memories were on, but you were
the only one that actually like really struck a conversation
with me. And I always appreciated that. Oh wow, it's
(07:51):
funny that we're connecting now.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That is wild. Oh my god, yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And that was that week, like maybe four years before
I started the show.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Wow, that is my mind is blown. Yeah, that is crazy.
And then happened and You're like, I already know this guy.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, wow, wow it.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Kill full heircle thing because I saw you as already.
I'm like, we're being represented in a way every single week, right,
It wasn't just a bit character. It wasn't just the
butt of the joke. You were telling stories that mattered
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m M. And while I wish that there was more representation,
I mean you had I was stroker and later on,
but the week a good way in because people could
he already and then they could ask me questioning the
next day because they could relate to it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's really it means a lot to hear that from you,
and I remember like the numerous conversations that we all
had with Ryan about that as well, and that was
his whole thing. It was just to make sure that
the important thing was that the character was represented and
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was a fully fledged person and a real pon like
what you said, wasn't just coming in and out just
to be the quote unquote like token person.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah whatever, cause they didn't have they did you. There
were never a very special episode of Glee, Like, there
were never like a very special like we have to
write the copio because yeah, yeah, there behind everything.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So I'm curious when because there was a lot of
back and forth when we went on tour about Kevin
doing safety Dance on tour, partially I think because I
don't think Ryan was like, oh, that's one of the
songs we should do on the tour like, but more specifically,
we wanted Kevin to be able to show off his
(10:36):
chops as an eve a buddy person who can dance,
and also a number that was important to the character
on the show. I'm curious for you to see the
representation of that character then stand up and do that.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
What was that? What was your thinking when you saw.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
That that was really the impetus behind me wanting to
walk across the stage at my high school graduation because
I saw that and I had been thinking about wanting
to do it for several years, probably think like third
(11:21):
or fourth grade.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Wow, But that was.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
The moment where I said, oh, if he can do it,
I can, even though it's a character. Was very much
like the day after that, I went to my physical
therapist and said, I don't know what we have to do,
but I want to walk across the stage at my
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high school graduation. And that led to me going to
high school and training for the next three and a half,
four a year or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It was Wow, and you did it, and you did it?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Did you actually?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Congratulations, that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm so happy you sent that video. It was emotional
and it was just it's not every day, you know.
I think when we did the show and you get to,
like you said, b representation for a certain group of people.
We all were and I don't know, to hear from you,
(12:31):
to see how much you got from the show and
from the character, and to take your own initiative and
you know, do whatever you wanted based off of that
and to grow and be better than already could ever be.
It is sort of it's it's unimaginable and it yeah,
it's really beautiful.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
And I and I never told anybody that it wore
because you're already because it never that never really waits
the goal yet. But it was okay because a lot
of people that are able bodied shaw me as oh,
(13:10):
he kind of plays your safe. So when I graduated
in Haikol, I wanted to make a point to let
people know that back not the case right and that
I just I wanted to do something a little different.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
What's really inspiring.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I I'm sure you learned a lot about yourself in
that process. Yeah, Like like you said, like Lartie was
the impetus to give you the confidence or to give
you the idea even for you to find the confidence
in yourself to do that, to be able to work
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so hard and train for that long to do this
this thing, that that was your goal.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And I didn't realize how much you know, planning there
would be. There was I had to meet with the principal,
I had to you know, coordinate everything and it was
just like they didn't say no, they said you want
to do this, We're going to make sure that this
happens for you. And you know what he even funnier
(14:26):
is that on that day I had not to grow
anybody out, but on that day I had an ingrown toeenail.
Oh gosh, which made it ten times more painful. But
you still do it. And I just had to because
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I couldn't give up just because of that thing.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
You know, like three and a half years isn't going
down the pipes for.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
This, which which is really hard in general.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
So like that is just I just commend and applaud
you for the I don't know, just for how how much,
how deep you had to dig probably in some harder
times in order to do this.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And yeah, but it even it even it even comes
through with the podcast too because people could see me.
It's like, oh, I'm just doing this as you know,
just a way to talk to people that like just
does a kind of a make a wish kind of approach. No,
(15:45):
I just love it. But I just happen to have
a disability that kid.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Right, Well, again, you're just like you're amazing. I'm so
inspired by you. I uh and you're hilarious. But let's
talk about I want to I want to hear more
about your your glee uh, your glee thoughts?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Can you obviously we know that you have.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
You love you know already is a character that really
resonates with you. I'm curious what other characters and storylines
resonate with you that you really liked or found yourself
kind of being drawn to. And also on the flip side,
which ones you felt were like the most unhinge and
you hated, if you hated any I'm will.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Say that, I mean, I I really I really liked
the the inclusion of Warren's character I love Becky.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yes, oh my god, which is so funny.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
But on the other side of it, I really loved that.
Do you know you guys really took a lot of
swings as far as things that wanting to be okay
today as you've as you've made known on this podcast.
(17:16):
But I think is the most kind of unhinged storyline
for me. It starts at the beginning and it's the
whole episode with don't stand still close to Me and
the sting the zoo.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, I still does that.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I can't get right.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah that's fair. It's definitely uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
And also I know they are more unhinged the story
as here goes on, and I'll get to one of
them because I've got some intel. Yeah it's pretty crazy,
but I think, yeah, I mean, unhinged they are, but
(18:10):
I love them very much.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That was sort of the beginning of the We didn't
know what the show was going to be, and then
all of a sudden you have that storyline like, oh,
this feels a little different. This is where we're going.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah, I mean like a lot of my favorite episodes
are generally hated. One really what which puppetmaster? Let me
(18:49):
tell you why. I I'm I'm like I said, I'm
friends with a lot of the people, and as you know, Jenna,
the puppetry world is kind of small, yes, so everybody
knows each other. So I knew a lot of the
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puppeteers on that shoe.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Wow and Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
So when that happened, they were telling me about you
gotta watch this thing. So I had the whole other
like connection to it. That makes it kind of coold
for me.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah he had. Oh wow, that definitely makes sense.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
To make To make it even funnier, A couple years ago,
I got to talk to the guy that built your puppet.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
What excuse me, we never had like access to those
types of people.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
What did he say?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
How was everything?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Well? First I told him that he if he could
get me in touch with you guys, and he didn't
have any intel, but that worked out. But apparently they
were sold that some auction like a fan had been
now or something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yes, yeah, we met somebody has quite a few of them.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
We wanted them, but they wouldn't give them to us,
and they said they were really expensive and they were auctioned off.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I jokingly asked him to make me a replica, and
he was like, no, it.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Must be really hard.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
No, he said, you know when I heard that you
had this been dead ShaSS distain for this when I'm
like and I like it, No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I'm actually it's.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Not my favorite episode. My favorite episode is Wheels. Yeah,
I think perfect storytelling and just yes, wonderful, but puppet
Master is nowhere near my favorite episode. But just give
it a little more love.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I understand see the way you now you put it
that way the perspective of I'm actually sad that these
puppet masters and puppeteers got kind of overlooked by this
crazy episode that we had right this like fairly unhinged
episode that we had.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
There were some really good things.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
That came out of that episode, obviously, like really good
things came of that episode. But and the puppeteers were amazing,
and those puppets were so cool.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It was just, yeah, it was a dark time.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They came in at a hard time that that wasn't
their fault. And when we watched it again recently, I
liked it a lot more.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Than are we happy for you?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Thank you? I was too. I didn't like harboring any
sort of ill will towards the episode, and it did
surprise me. And I'm thankful that I liked it a
lot more than I no.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
If I can, I have a question for the both
of you, ask away. So I know that you guys
are in King Feng, Yeah, show me too. And because
of that, what in King Kong? That why hint hingle?
(22:47):
Would you like? Would you have liked on greekl I.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Just said, I got a look now I have I
have so many answers I have, so I have one
for you that wasn't a single What a great question.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Because we could do we could do that. It could
be me all day, but it cannot know.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Oh my god, I really like do your thing?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, my pick for you with y'all hell from Caelebrity
and it already doing up against the wall.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yes, that was absolutely top three for me.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Oh so fun. And I feel like a music of
my heart would be fun.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, such a you're bringing me back right now.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
This is bringing me so much joy. I have to
go listen to.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It would have been so much fun the whole.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Like I also think like it makes me it would
be fun.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yes, oh god, that would have been.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It makes me. I would have been insane.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That would have been.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
But what but would you guys have done the whole
no stringe? Would you guys merged with like no stringed
or something like that?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I would have been I think we should have done
a full yeah, like we could have done a full
boy band episode. I mean I would have loved to.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
You wouldn't have You wouldn't have had room for the
true deeper cook.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
No, you're right, I mean you're that would have been great.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I'm a collector. I've got all the stuff right here.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Oh my god, the best one, I'm so mad the
Christmas album. You have the actual CD and Kevin but
there was we were in some studio and somebody has
the plaque for the Christmas album.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
We never got like a platinum plaque for I. I. I,
you know, I correct plaque and.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Do you So.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I've been on the hunt for one.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Too, Okay, if you find one, because I saw one
in a studio. I don't know where. It was a
recording studio. It was either Chalice or it was this
other place I know.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And Kenny we saw one in London as well that
we when we were in London that they gave. You
were so mad we didn't get.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
We took pictures with it when it went platinum and.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
One there one when your like Me went gold and
it was like a swashy one.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Oh my god, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I think you are right.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
There was also like ripped out too.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So there was an O to award that we because
we're selling out the O two for two weeks straight
that we all got and Kevin and I never got ours.
But it's a it's a standing slushy with the slushy
coming out.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Of it too, and we never got it.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
It's one I've got plaques on this Wall for like
dream Street and.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
The Lake McGuire soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I have dream Street, Greg and Jasey.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I got to talk there for the podcast you did.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I did Broadway Kids with Greg, so I've known Greg
since I.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Was like twelve.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Wow, that's crazy. Oh my gosh, Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
This is wonderful. I love it also, like we grew
up like liking all of the exact same things.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, here's the thing. My oldest sister is seven years
older than me. So when I was five six years old, yes,
I was watching Nicolone and all that fun stuff, but
I was watching t R too, totally. I lived through
(27:05):
all of it.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yes, I had much older siblings itself. I love that
because you do get this breadth of like knowledge and
pop culture information and exposure.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
But it was such a good time for pop culture,
and I feel like back to Glee. Glee was the
last pop culture juggernaut of a kind like that, like
you had you had like how many albums did you have? Albums?
(27:39):
Not even and like the contract tour and like I
never got to go. I'm so bummed about it. But
again you always say when like that, he can make
it up for right now?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Are there other TV?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Shows that you watch that you liked in the vein
of Glee that had like a pop culture influence on
the world.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I I think one of my other favorite shows a
little earlier was ship Bring of the Teenage.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Which, oh yeah, too good.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
If that really had a pop culture into it.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean yeah, now, Gilmore Girls, that's my favorite show the.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Okay, I knew this because Amy Sherman Palladino is the
queen of pop culture references.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
So there's like easter eggs every there.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah, I know, and that was that. There's only two shows.
There's only like three shows that I've ever fully been
like that wasn't a limited Cirie and a week Glee
and with Gilmore and How I Met Your Mother?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Oh wow, good company there.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
How many have you watched how many times have you
watched Glee like the full series? Do you know?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Maybe like six times?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Oh wow?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
And I go there. I will say there are episodes,
and I don't think you've ever acted on the podcast.
I'll just go let it out there. There are episodes
that I go back to because they're comforting to me.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, what are some of your comfort episodes?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Like Dreams Come True?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:42):
And people arguing, Kay, the two thousand and nine should
have really been the cap off, but I really like
dreams Come True and how it how Yeah, but everything
up a little bit. And another controversial one that I
have that made our mutual friend Andrew from the Week
(30:05):
of the Week shocked is moving out. Really I go
on that episode because of already storyline with Becky. I
think that is show that that much so cool for you,
Kevin to be with that, be with that class and
(30:28):
that group of people. It's just because that's the kind
of school that I went to before I went to
public school. Wow, I really connected with that.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, that was the best storyline in the episode.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I really enjoyed that. And it was one of those
things too where it's like, how lucky are we to
be on a show that we get to have this
as a storyline because that just wasn't a thing that
was happening on television like that, And you know, for
all of its ups and downs of the show and
the crazy storylines and unhinged things like Ryan Brad and
(31:07):
Ian really had sort of that like I don't know, compass,
So like we are showing these things because they obviously
exist and it's not right that they're not being shown.
And and we're very aware of the the reach and
the platform that they had on network television on talks
to be able to.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
With the last show to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
So you that's it. Nobody else has done this if.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
You look there. There was a show on ABC a
couple of years back called mm hmm and Where You
Shit Calm. It was multi cam and yep, it acted
you know, three seasons, but then but then we had
to wait again for representation again. Yeah, it's like when
(32:01):
we have it, it goes your.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Way, which is like a problem that.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Nobody that's I know, that's the business, but you know
when it when it comes down to it, like it's
just like you know, seeing you know, a person of color,
Like we want more of it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, because that's life, that's real life being.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
And there's no reason why they can't be involved in everything. Yes,
like those storylines and those characters, like it's it's it's
not right that we have you have to wait for
like a special project. It's like one TV show that
right exactly fills the void as opposed.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And then it's off and then you have to wait
again for something else that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I mean, there are very few things. I mean, I
got there is this brilliant movie that Disney did, like
a coming of age young adult movie called Out of
My Mind, and I got to do publicity for that,
and you know even that like that, that can movie
that will live on forever. But when the next thing?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Right, that was one movie?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Right? Very how have you? How has I mean, even
though representation seems pretty infrequent, have you noticed a change?
I guess you know since Glee, Like let's say, the
like me getting hired to play already would not fly
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today and rightly so. And do you think like representation
in that way has changed.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I think I think people are. I think it's gotten better,
but it's still not the norm. Right yeah, right now.
I'm not saying that every character has to be in
a share. If you've got the chop and if you've
done it, if you've done enough research, if if you
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have the tools to do it, then you couldn't do it.
I mean, I don't think it's necessarily all that bad
because you're only the representation is there. That's what matters
to me.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
For sure. You have such a deep understanding of like
pop culture and always. It's clearly not just TV or
film or music, it's everything. And it's amazing that you
share that with people because you clearly like you think
about these things deeply and you are able to take
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a encyclopaedia.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, and I would love to have you guys both
on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I would love to come on and just talk pop
culture with you. Do you ever do you like do
places call to consult your opinion about things? Because like you,
oh so much?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
They I mean, I've got sometimes people ask me. I
mean a couple years ago, I got to work with
the Fred Rogers production people, got to work with mister
Rogers team on some stuff, and they told me that
they use one of my interviews as a guide in
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one of their production meetings, and I was like.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Wow, excuse me, wow, I am, I am, but.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
But it literally just like the thing I always say
to people is this, I always say when I have
these conversations with you, I don't I don't expect you
to go in the next day and change your script
automatically because of something that I said. MM, but if
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I could change your perspective for at least one second,
then I've done my job.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
To get ready to look at it.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Do you have because I have more Glee questions for
you because.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
The music element was in there.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I feel like music is such a huge part of
your encyclopedia. That must have been like so exciting for
you each week because in.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Addition to you know, the show itself.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
No, and it was, I mean I would. I'm looking
through my collection of being to dig out and all
my Glee music aside from this one is in storage,
and I was so like, I didn't realize how much
I had because I there's a lot of stuff. I
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had everything. Wow. But I think I'm gonna get be
a couple of my favorite songs because I think they're
they're the unexpected one.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Well, yeah, after you throw a pupa master already. Yeah,
I'm ready for it.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
And I think my Love is your Love is one
of them.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yes, he gets it.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Well, you gotta you gotta, you gotta remember the time
period that I.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Talk about right there, Yep, exactly.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
That's right there. Yeah, I love never going back again.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yes, best one of your favor Here's.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
A random one that I really liked that a lot
of people don't talk about. Not because it's bad. I
honestly don't know why, but I think it happened after
we are young by fun blow up. For you guys,
every indie band wanted their song featured on Glee And
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here's another one. This is the New Years.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Agree is yes, this is a finger on the pulse again.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
But I need to ask you your opinion on Oh
you're like maybe because what's version? Do you? What are
your opinion on the song in general? Because I mean
Max Martin is working with you guys on it, and yes,
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write it. You know it's a pop hit. I mean radio,
you've got radio airplay with it. But what do you
guys think of it?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Honestly, we we didn't love it. We and as someone
who we all grew up in the dawn of Max
Martin pop music, so favorite producer of all time, I
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think we were concerned about the level of you know,
we're doing all these classic songs that already hits and
that's what people know us for, and they're phenomenal songs,
and then I think for us it was hard to
then square that with singing about like I'll call you
back when I'm your boss. Yeah, like the lyrics of it,
(39:35):
and we like had to sit down with Ryan, because
we were all so worried about it. We cared so much,
and we're like, we were out of our minds. I
don't know why we thought we were, like the audacity
of us, and Ryan was sort of no, I believe
we're doing it, and so my thoughts about it now
(39:56):
are very different. But the.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Production wise it top tier production.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Love the production totally.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I think. I think for me, this is where I
thought you.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Were going with this, Kevin.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
We were doing, Yes, we were doing top forty. We
were doing a lot of Max Martin. Obviously he produces
on everything. We were also doing like Queen, like Bohemian
Rhapsody and some and Somebody to Love and like Journey,
but exactly so, we're doing these really cool rock pop,
(40:39):
you know, hits that were so different and then putting
our spin on it, and I feel like that was
like exciting to people who had been a fan of
those and then also you know, introducing these for the
first time to younger generations with loser like me, it
felt a little too bubblegum pop for what we were
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doing and the level of work we were doing it at.
Production wise, I thought it was great, and obviously I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
I'm going to kind of act that okay my opinion
because I think it is it was done at the
perfect time for you, because I think the only I'm
ancule radio NERD to the point where I know charge
(41:30):
can you know?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
And I think we are so similar.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
I think the only the only stations that we're playing
you guys were a C station. True, and I think
having the audience of GUI at the time. This was
season two, so the show kind of skewed more to
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a teen audience. Yeah, right, what do teen audience? He's
listened to top forty radio.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
This sme day.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
That's right? Where So the song was right where I
needed to be Lyrically, Yeah, I agree to it all
here and or there, but it's like I feel, I
think it's a perfect song.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Wow, So what did you think about the one hundred version? Then?
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Are we confusing because you love the original so much?
Speaker 2 (42:38):
That's what I'm not.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Even that like. First of all, like Blaine doesn't even
know the song. In the episode of season two, how
did he get how did he how did he how
did he suddenly hear this?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Welcome, Welcome to Lee, This is Glee.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I said, you're a deep thinker about these things, and
you sometimes glee. You can't.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yeah, you can't go too deep or you'll run yourself
into the ground.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
I will also say, like, this is why you should
be consulted on pop culture things like shows and stuff,
because your opinion is exactly what Ryan and Adamanders and
they were all right about, and we were all very wrong.
It's also you're right. It fits with the time period
for us, the demo for us, and the lyrics we
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were writing our own songs as sixteen year old characters,
so amazing.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
It's really funny because you can probably guess one of
my favorite episode of your podcast is Adamanders back Top two,
but I think one of the one that I really
loved with Joe Early.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yes, yes, of course, because.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
For my podcast, a big part of my brand is
just branding and and and and esthetic and what do
I want my audience to seem m Because you truth
be told, a lot of people saw me as a
(44:26):
preschool television kids show guy because a lot of that
stuff was what I covered in the beginning to game
back to what I could get. And now the episode
that I just really was with Tricia with Marley's mom,
(44:48):
we just we just recorded with her a couple of
months ago. We had a lot to talk about from
the special education angle, of course, But I but my
point in king that is, I'm not just one thing.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yep, yep, that's right.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
And yeah, I think it confuses a lot of people
when I'll cover something like Glee or my other favorite,
my other favorite TV show of all time is the
Mary Tyler Moore show.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Best I Shall Be Ever what a great Oh my god, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Yeah, So it's it's not one thing.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah, I think. And then that's what yeah, And I mean,
that's nobody is just one thing. And it's so easy
to put everybody in some bocks in a box, especially
when they don't know about a different persons like life, yeah,
and what they have to go through. It's like, well,
in my head, you're easier to understand if I reduce
(46:04):
you to this very oversimplified version that I have in
my head, right because I have no context and just
talking to you for the past forty five minutes, all
the different things that you know about and like like that,
that's you can't put that into any sort of box.
But that's what makes a person great and worth knowing
(46:24):
and worth listening to fifteen hundred episodes of a podcast
I have.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
I have how many questions for you? But I don't
want to take.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Up no ask away?
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Ask away, Like do you feel like.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
When you think of God, I am merchandise conglomerate that
it was what what is your favorite peek of merch
that you guys have?
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Oh man, there was so much.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
There's actually the most ridiculous, like really it can endoring
your life?
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Why we I For me, it was my parents still
have this in their pantry. It was a real like
I stopped in my tracks and I was like, oh
my god, this show is really big moment in the
grocery store and we were on like a Ritz Cracker box.
I remember that, yeah, And it was one of those
(47:24):
things where like I'm just chopping, going about my business
and I look up and there's our faces on a
Ritz Cracker box and like you know, like like Olympians
being on whedies and all these things things that like
to me being obsessed with pop culture like you or like,
those are significant like markers of that success.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
That your equivalent of the back Boys having that burger
that burger king meal.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yes, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Were we being character on this box? Yes, this is crazy.
I there's so many things that like, we didn't even
know about. We didn't know we were on. I remember
getting Awei at the time we was really popular.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
I had the game and the game and then I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
If this was soul or if this was special because
we were on it. They sent us we systems with
our Glee picture on the side.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be completely nerdy here for
a second. That video game system is the only video
game system that I can play by my show because
you're to help the shability friendly.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
So when so when I saw you guys were when
a karaoke game and we going We and the Switch too.
I love the Switch.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yes, but they didn't have to like run those things
by us, like the merch. We had no idea, so
we didn't like. Yeah, I didn't know until I was
in a grocery store.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Do you wish do you wish that you've had a.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Doll kind of Yeah, Yeah, that would have been cool.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
People made them the pops, which I see some in
your behind you.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
I have a two hundred of them.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Oh my god, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
We had a wonderful fan who made us our ardientina pops.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
I have mine, Dad.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
I'm hoping that they were lease somebody licenses them, because
yeah I will. I will get those big one.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
I know I would do.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Actually, we don't. All those characters will look so cute
as punk o pop.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
I know, no, are we thinking of are thinking of
fun little nostalgic crossover questions. So if the Glee cast,
how the hit clip? Remember hit clip?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Oh my god, yes, no, what is it? He's too old?
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (50:14):
It a little micro how how big bore.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Hipp I mean it was pretty big.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
No, it was like a we like something on a
key chain.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Oh I think you meant like how famous it was,
because oh yeah, it was like a little It was
almost like a.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Look, I don't know what, oh like a little yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
So and it only played like what thirty seconds for
a minute of a song? Yes, oh my god, what
song do you think? Obviously don't stop right, but are
there any others that that you think would make the.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Cut as like a Glee merch hip clip?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, you know, for for something like this.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
I feel like Jump like Van Halen, like our Jump
song would make it.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
I also feel like somebody love might make it.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
I mean it would have been perfect for loser like me.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
Yeah, and then they.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Would have had some weird duet on there like like
nowhere thank you exactly, which we love.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
But I'm just saying, like you'd be like, why this one?
Speaker 4 (51:26):
You know? I would? I mean, I know I know
that Jenna want to buy it because if you had
gungam style.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
I would definitely I would.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
I would burn it to the ground, throw it into
oncoming traffic.
Speaker 4 (51:44):
And it's funny because I've been, you know, to prep
for this, I've been watching my my favorite episode, like
you could read Get My Help into the World Again.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
My favorite episode, Kevin on the entire show is your
favorite episode.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
On the Alcohol. Yes, guys, this is why we've had
this connection now for like twenty years, because we have
the same daste.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
Do you have any more questions for us, because we
you know, we obviously have a question for you.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
A final question for you.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
Do you have a I do have a couple more
questions for you.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Great, go for it.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
No, If now Big Morning is for you, Kevin, if
you were to write an already hen trick episode of
the show where it was already kind of in the
vein of we always where you wanted to keep the
(53:00):
Green Cup? The Green Club are acting about something, where
would you want to take it?
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Oh ooh.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Interesting? I hmmm. I think Artie as Kevin or Artie.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
Either or either or.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Hm hmm.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
I I feel like several times throughout the series Artie
was referred to as uh well, one time he was
referred to sort of like the glue of the group. Yes,
And I feel like he got into it a couple
of times with like Rachel storming off and personality things
(53:50):
like that. I think it may be a lesson in
being a team player, understanding other people perspectives and how
it's not not everything is easy for everybody else, and
like to have the empathy for everybody else around you,
because I think a lot of times in high school
or as performers, people can be a little self centered
(54:13):
and I think maybe think just a little, just a little.
They're all just you know, projecting insecurity on everybody else.
So I feel like maybe in that vein would have
been something through R and B music.
Speaker 4 (54:30):
That I mean that the other thing I think it
would have been funny if you did. We'll be two
k crawl over moment on Glee.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
Mean you're speaking his language. Do you know how often
I in the back of my head, I was like,
I wish we could just do like Nya is in
a B two K music video, like I was signed
to B two K. People like, but I'm like, I
know Ryan Murphy has never even heard beat Another, and
I was like, I can't pitch this.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
Another fun throwback for Artie that I think would be
fun is got to Get Through This by Daniel Beddingfield.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
Stop this, Wow, Stop this right now.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Guys are really wow.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
The way I was obsessed.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
With mine mold mine, mold right here.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
Ah wow, wow, wow, wow wow, you said Daniel.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Man, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
I can't believe you've unlocked. So every time someone's like,
what if you have done on Glee Daniel Field, he.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Said that in every red carpet. Wow impressive.
Speaker 4 (55:45):
I feel like that week one of those moments where
I do feel like it'd be so much fun because
that could have ween that song could have worked so
many differentiations.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Absolutely totally missed opportunity for you.
Speaker 4 (55:59):
Jenna we Very song from the ninety earlier early two thousands,
that that you want, that you would have wanted.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
Yeah, I luckily I got like I got a lot
of the music that I was a fan of at
the time, like Florence and Katie and Gaga, Like I
felt like I really Ryan really listened to me in
that in that way. But I was just thinking, we
never we never did, and obviously this is very hard
to accomplish, but we never did, Mariah, like we never
(56:32):
did like Daydream or Music Box or any of those
which were such staples in my life.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
I think you would have done a good just a
Girl by No Doubt.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Oh that's so good too.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Honestly, that No Doubt album two I would have loved
to have done. I.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Wow, that's right. That would really suit you.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
That was really that's really good, Actually.
Speaker 2 (56:59):
I know it is.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Why didn't we do that?
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah? No, that's good.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
That wow?
Speaker 4 (57:08):
Yeah, Okay, because there were some times where you guys
would pull out the deep corks. Yeah, there there was
always room for more.
Speaker 3 (57:18):
Yeah, I would have loved for anybody to really pull
out like the Emo the Emo episodes, like I would
have loved.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
I know, it's not our show, and it wasn't right.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
I also don't think it would work in a school shetting.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
I mean give me some like give me some green
day doochie, and like give me and like give me
some like I don't know. I just feel like give
me some dashbark professional or sympol like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
It's like we were so.
Speaker 4 (57:49):
The fun one for me that I think would be
fun because I always loved when the the other band
members would come in right, So think about this Ocean
Avenue Yellow Card.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
I cannot the amount of times my husband makes fun
of me for talking about that album and talking about
Yellow Card is actually really yes all the time, He's like,
where's your Yellow Card?
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Because I love Yellow Card Love.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
I'm pretty sure they made me gay. I love them.
I was upset crushes on all of them.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
What a great bit.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
But I will okay and then I'll shut.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
No, this is great. We are shocked, like these are
these song references. We've talked about this so many times
for so many years, and no one has ever said
gotten it.
Speaker 4 (58:46):
These songs one song that I've show influential to me
in my childhood. It would never make Hank for the
show because honestly, there was a other intel actual I
p connected to it, and it the boy actually Mayer
(59:06):
song from the rug Reck movie.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
If you had told me that this song was going
to come up today, I would have put everything, my
loved ones, any money I've ever earned on the line
of it, Like you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (59:27):
That music video, that music video, but what wow, very good.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
One of the greatest songs of all time.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
All time. It's ingrained in me.
Speaker 2 (59:41):
I can see the music video in my right.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
They will never not see it.
Speaker 4 (59:46):
Nobody, nobody appreciates that.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
You're right now, and I can't believe that you just
brought that up.
Speaker 4 (59:55):
That was the first hit I ever bought. Oh my god,
and every time I heard it, I will When I
would be going into school, my mom would have to
hold the bush to show I could hear the music
video on the TV. Like I just I remember that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
It's also for a bus ride take me there. I
like that.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Oh my gosh, I am that's really good.
Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
This is so much fun.
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
We didn't do now, I'm just like, we didn't do.
Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
I feel bad. I feel bad that I'm taking over all.
Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Oh we didn't Okay, we didn't do Maya. We didn't
do any maya.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
You could have done Cake of the act that would
have been so good.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Oh my god, so pissed if I didn't get to
do a case of the X. No.
Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
No, it's like a it's like a Britanna song, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Okay, that's how I heard, Like how they're dancing, I
wouldn't have been singing it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
We get some backup dancers, did.
Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
You guys ever do no dignity?
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I don't think that would Yeah, that makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
But yeah, back my deep cut for you.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Okay, Well, I'll never forget it alone.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Now I can't stop thinking it all.
Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
We'll talk more about this when you appear on my.
Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Okay, great, I'm gonna have to go through my was like, whoa,
I'm there.
Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Okay, So before we let you go, we really could
talk to you forever.
Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Is what is the feeling like Lee leaves you with.
Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
It leaves I mean with feeling of being thankful because
I'm I've always been a fan of the show, but
I'm fairly new to the fandom, like meeting other gleeks
and I mean I had to give a shout out
(01:02:19):
to Andrew for from Gleek of the Week forgetting to
action touch because he's been such a really big advocate
for me and what I do. But I'm just so
thankful that your show with the vehicle for so many
things in my life, whether you knew it or not,
(01:02:45):
and it made me feel like I'm waking alone anymore.
And I wanted to thank you for that too.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Thank you, thank you. Yeah, that hearing and meeting people
who took so much away from the show and that
way means so much to us. You never expect that
to happen, and that was the greatest gift the show
has ever given us and keeps giving us. So thank
you for loving the show and seeing it and spending
(01:03:18):
so much time with us today. Yeah, we really really
appreciate it. And you, you know, doing prep to come
on here. I can't wait to come on your show.
I feel like everyone needs to go listen to your
podcast because you're incredible.
Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
I might have your price gets for your fro, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Oh my god. Please tell us where people can find
you and listen to your podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
I'm everywhere, I'm where, we everywhere. You can find me
at djbobshow dot com. You can find me on Instagram
at dj Bob Show podcast or my personal instagram Runk
Instagram which is my last name, mame. I'm I'm a
(01:04:07):
pun guy. So are you? N K Star Graham and
you'll follow me there and I've got everything everything go there.
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
An icon and a legend. Thank you so so much
for joining us. It was so nice to see you again.
Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Thank you guys so much, Thank you so much. It
was so nice to meet you. Yeah, for sure, ye.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Oh my gosh, why did I get I'm so intimidated
by him.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I'm because he's a real podcast host. We're just faking it.
Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
No, but also like knows everything everything that's great. References
were jaw dropping.
Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I am shook.
Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
What a great human Glee fan podcaster. We're so lucky
we got that episode.
Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
I feel humbled by in every sort of way. I'm
in awe.
Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
It also must feel like, oh, very special for you, Kevin,
because like I feel very grateful for hearing his what
he took away from the show.
Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
I can only imagine what that means for you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Yeah, it's hard to verbalize. Yeah, I'm not. You could
probably tell I was stumbling through all that because I've
always felt really conflicted about me playing a character and
a chair, especially as you know, time's gone on and
we've learned to know better. And for me, the driving
(01:05:46):
force was always that it was about the representation. And
I have to trust that, you know, Ryan and everybody did.
They thought I was the best for the role, and
that was that and and so it is. It's nice
to be reminded that the show did have that impact
on people, especially people in chairs. And yeah, I'm just
(01:06:08):
I'm just so incredibly grateful and humbled and thankful to
have someone like Bob who got so much from the
show and party and you and Alarti. Yeah, and like
I know, it is not about me. It is about
you know, Artie and the way that you also.
Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Handled him so well.
Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
You you handled Arty with such care and such you know, uh,
you were so conscious about everything and so careful and
kind and thoughtful about it all and about your fans
and about the character, and so it is a testament
to you as well, and how you handled it all
and your con you know, constant care for Artie and
(01:06:55):
how those storylines were perceived.
Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
And done and just everything.
Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
And the writers did too though, you know, the writers,
like I think everybody, each of us got to be
a fully fledged character and we got to yeah, challenge
the cliches and stereotypes that people may associate with any
of our characters.
Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
And like Bob, he's so much more, you know what
I mean, He's not just one thing.
Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
So yes, exactly, Bob, you just be My face hurts
from smiling and I'm shocked. Take me their reference at
the end of but snuck that in Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
There?
Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Before Daniel Bedingfield, I cannot.
Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Get out of here and go subscribe to DJ Bob
Podcast and listen because clearly an expert in all things
pop culture. And thank you so much for spending this
much time with us, and that's what you really missed. Yeah,
thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and
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that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write
us a review and leave us five stars. See you
next time.
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast. Today,
we have a very special gleek. It's DJ Bob Bruncle.
DJ Bob Brunkle. You will learn knows everything about everything,
and when I mean everything about everything. Our jaws were
on the ground midway through this episode, so I never
(00:30):
got put back up.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I truly am just in awe of him, and I
also am intimidated by She'll learn And we are super
excited for you guys to hear this episode. And yeah,
he's really incredible, So.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm in awe. Yeah, we're big fans over here, big
big advance. You're not gonna want to miss this episode.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Look at that hat.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Captain Crew hat right there?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Oh my god, what did you already have?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
What can I share?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Welcome?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, thank you Bob so much for being here. We
are newbies at this podcasting thing. Compared to you, you
are a veteran, and so thank you for letting us
into your medium.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
You know, it's funny because everybody says, you know, you're
a pioneer. You've been doing this for a year, can like,
but now we keep like the podcasting world has blown up.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, you had your Yeah, you had your
exactly you knew what was going to happen. How did
you How did you start podcasting? Actually, originally because you
did start the idea.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Come, I was a pop culture nerd. I was the
kid who would would camp out at the store to
buy no string attached on release day. Yes, and you know,
because of my physical disability, pop culture was really my
(02:25):
way in to the world. So instead of like being
sad about it, I thought, what could I do and
just do a show based on what I love?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah? Yeah, for sure. And you've had some amazing guests.
You recently had one of my good friends, David Archieleta
on Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
That was fun, very exciting.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh yeah, speaking of I mean pop culture. Grew up
with him on American Idol.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Saw me fantastic, It's so good.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I totally I ran into him on Saturday night and
was totally just being a fan. I was like, David,
this new song is great, so good.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It's very different for him.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I feel like the joy of the pop culture world
is that it's ever changing, ever evolving, and there's always
something new for you to cover and to become a fan.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Because I do a lot of like children's entertainment. I
know the Session three people, I know pretty much anybody
that you grew up with. For the past thirty five years,
I've probably spoken to every once.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well wow, well you know I was on Sesame.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I do know.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
As the pop culture guru over here.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
See, I always say I have always had so much
useless pop culture information in my head. But I think
I have clearly been beaten. This is I am nothing
compared to Bob I know too much information, no such thing.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Have you watched Celebrity Jeopardy?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yes, because my brother turned me on to it, who
is a big pop culture drunkie as well, and he
knows like a lot of a lot of really great information,
and all.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Told me to audition for that yeah culture Jeopardy thing,
and yeah, I couldn't get in.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Oh no, I feel like they were like, he's she
just knows too much.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
He would have ripped them all.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
But it's really fun and it's very it's very pop
culture from me.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, so obviously you're a Glee fan.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, tell us about how you discovered it, where you
were like, what like in time and just tell us
about the first time and your experience like seeing Glee.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I could tell you specifically because it would be night.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
One premiere wow wow og.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And I was telling you how all my pop culture
world collided. Glee was really at the forefront of everything
pop culture more than any other show I feel, because
it was all encompassing and and Glee came at a
(05:34):
point where I was in eighth no seventh grade when
the finaliated or when the when the premiere happened, So
it was very much I grew, I grew with it,
and definitely it's been with me for that long.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Crazy and tell tell me about seeing Artie for the
first time in the show.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
That was cool. Thank you and people here. When I
when I do interviews with people, people asked me if
I was ever like offended because you weren't in a chair.
(06:31):
I reached a kapiti the representation. I didn't care. I mean,
I knew you. I even knew you before, like I
knew from n l T. I go like, I have
a story about that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
My god, we share this.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
We met before during n LT.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Where did we meet?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
So one of my influences at the time was another
radio show for children on AOL and they had a
deal with Geffen Ye have any of their talent would
(07:29):
appear on the show by default and if we and
I think all the memories were on, but you were
the only one that actually like really struck a conversation
with me. And I always appreciated that. Oh wow, it's
(07:51):
funny that we're connecting now.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That is wild. Oh my god, yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And that was that week, like maybe four years before
I started the show.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Wow, that is my mind is blown. Yeah, that is crazy.
And then happened and You're like, I already know this guy.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, wow, wow it.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Kill full heircle thing because I saw you as already.
I'm like, we're being represented in a way every single week, right,
It wasn't just a bit character. It wasn't just the
butt of the joke. You were telling stories that mattered
(08:48):
m M. And while I wish that there was more representation,
I mean you had I was stroker and later on,
but the week a good way in because people could
he already and then they could ask me questioning the
next day because they could relate to it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's really it means a lot to hear that from you,
and I remember like the numerous conversations that we all
had with Ryan about that as well, and that was
his whole thing. It was just to make sure that
the important thing was that the character was represented and
(09:33):
was a fully fledged person and a real pon like
what you said, wasn't just coming in and out just
to be the quote unquote like token person.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah whatever, cause they didn't have they did you. There
were never a very special episode of Glee, Like, there
were never like a very special like we have to
write the copio because yeah, yeah, there behind everything.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So I'm curious when because there was a lot of
back and forth when we went on tour about Kevin
doing safety Dance on tour, partially I think because I
don't think Ryan was like, oh, that's one of the
songs we should do on the tour like, but more specifically,
we wanted Kevin to be able to show off his
(10:36):
chops as an eve a buddy person who can dance,
and also a number that was important to the character
on the show. I'm curious for you to see the
representation of that character then stand up and do that.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
What was that? What was your thinking when you saw.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
That that was really the impetus behind me wanting to
walk across the stage at my high school graduation because
I saw that and I had been thinking about wanting
to do it for several years, probably think like third
(11:21):
or fourth grade.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Wow, But that was.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
The moment where I said, oh, if he can do it,
I can, even though it's a character. Was very much
like the day after that, I went to my physical
therapist and said, I don't know what we have to do,
but I want to walk across the stage at my
(11:48):
high school graduation. And that led to me going to
high school and training for the next three and a half,
four a year or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It was Wow, and you did it, and you did it?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Did you actually?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Congratulations, that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm so happy you sent that video. It was emotional
and it was just it's not every day, you know.
I think when we did the show and you get to,
like you said, b representation for a certain group of people.
We all were and I don't know, to hear from you,
(12:31):
to see how much you got from the show and
from the character, and to take your own initiative and
you know, do whatever you wanted based off of that
and to grow and be better than already could ever be.
It is sort of it's it's unimaginable and it yeah,
it's really beautiful.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
And I and I never told anybody that it wore
because you're already because it never that never really waits
the goal yet. But it was okay because a lot
of people that are able bodied shaw me as oh,
(13:10):
he kind of plays your safe. So when I graduated
in Haikol, I wanted to make a point to let
people know that back not the case right and that
I just I wanted to do something a little different.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
What's really inspiring.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I I'm sure you learned a lot about yourself in
that process. Yeah, Like like you said, like Lartie was
the impetus to give you the confidence or to give
you the idea even for you to find the confidence
in yourself to do that, to be able to work
(13:53):
so hard and train for that long to do this
this thing, that that was your goal.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And I didn't realize how much you know, planning there
would be. There was I had to meet with the principal,
I had to you know, coordinate everything and it was
just like they didn't say no, they said you want
to do this, We're going to make sure that this
happens for you. And you know what he even funnier
(14:26):
is that on that day I had not to grow
anybody out, but on that day I had an ingrown toeenail.
Oh gosh, which made it ten times more painful. But
you still do it. And I just had to because
(14:50):
I couldn't give up just because of that thing.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
You know, like three and a half years isn't going
down the pipes for.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
This, which which is really hard in general.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
So like that is just I just commend and applaud
you for the I don't know, just for how how much,
how deep you had to dig probably in some harder
times in order to do this.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And yeah, but it even it even it even comes
through with the podcast too because people could see me.
It's like, oh, I'm just doing this as you know,
just a way to talk to people that like just
does a kind of a make a wish kind of approach. No,
(15:45):
I just love it. But I just happen to have
a disability that kid.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Right, Well, again, you're just like you're amazing. I'm so
inspired by you. I uh and you're hilarious. But let's
talk about I want to I want to hear more
about your your glee uh, your glee thoughts?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Can you obviously we know that you have.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
You love you know already is a character that really
resonates with you. I'm curious what other characters and storylines
resonate with you that you really liked or found yourself
kind of being drawn to. And also on the flip side,
which ones you felt were like the most unhinge and
you hated, if you hated any I'm will.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Say that, I mean, I I really I really liked
the the inclusion of Warren's character I love Becky.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yes, oh my god, which is so funny.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
But on the other side of it, I really loved that.
Do you know you guys really took a lot of
swings as far as things that wanting to be okay
today as you've as you've made known on this podcast.
(17:16):
But I think is the most kind of unhinged storyline
for me. It starts at the beginning and it's the
whole episode with don't stand still close to Me and
the sting the zoo.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, I still does that.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I can't get right.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah that's fair. It's definitely uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
And also I know they are more unhinged the story
as here goes on, and I'll get to one of
them because I've got some intel. Yeah it's pretty crazy,
but I think, yeah, I mean, unhinged they are, but
(18:10):
I love them very much.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That was sort of the beginning of the We didn't
know what the show was going to be, and then
all of a sudden you have that storyline like, oh,
this feels a little different. This is where we're going.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah, I mean like a lot of my favorite episodes
are generally hated. One really what which puppetmaster? Let me
(18:49):
tell you why. I I'm I'm like I said, I'm
friends with a lot of the people, and as you know, Jenna,
the puppetry world is kind of small, yes, so everybody
knows each other. So I knew a lot of the
(19:11):
puppeteers on that shoe.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Wow and Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
So when that happened, they were telling me about you
gotta watch this thing. So I had the whole other
like connection to it. That makes it kind of coold
for me.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah he had. Oh wow, that definitely makes sense.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
To make To make it even funnier, A couple years ago,
I got to talk to the guy that built your puppet.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
What excuse me, we never had like access to those
types of people.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
What did he say?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
How was everything?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Well? First I told him that he if he could
get me in touch with you guys, and he didn't
have any intel, but that worked out. But apparently they
were sold that some auction like a fan had been
now or something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yes, yeah, we met somebody has quite a few of them.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
We wanted them, but they wouldn't give them to us,
and they said they were really expensive and they were auctioned off.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I jokingly asked him to make me a replica, and
he was like, no, it.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Must be really hard.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
No, he said, you know when I heard that you
had this been dead ShaSS distain for this when I'm
like and I like it, No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I'm actually it's.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Not my favorite episode. My favorite episode is Wheels. Yeah,
I think perfect storytelling and just yes, wonderful, but puppet
Master is nowhere near my favorite episode. But just give
it a little more love.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I understand see the way you now you put it
that way the perspective of I'm actually sad that these
puppet masters and puppeteers got kind of overlooked by this
crazy episode that we had right this like fairly unhinged
episode that we had.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
There were some really good things.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
That came out of that episode, obviously, like really good
things came of that episode. But and the puppeteers were amazing,
and those puppets were so cool.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It was just, yeah, it was a dark time.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They came in at a hard time that that wasn't
their fault. And when we watched it again recently, I
liked it a lot more.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Than are we happy for you?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Thank you? I was too. I didn't like harboring any
sort of ill will towards the episode, and it did
surprise me. And I'm thankful that I liked it a
lot more than I no.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
If I can, I have a question for the both
of you, ask away. So I know that you guys
are in King Feng, Yeah, show me too. And because
of that, what in King Kong? That why hint hingle?
(22:47):
Would you like? Would you have liked on greekl I.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Just said, I got a look now I have I
have so many answers I have, so I have one
for you that wasn't a single What a great question.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Because we could do we could do that. It could
be me all day, but it cannot know.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Oh my god, I really like do your thing?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, my pick for you with y'all hell from Caelebrity
and it already doing up against the wall.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yes, that was absolutely top three for me.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Oh so fun. And I feel like a music of
my heart would be fun.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, such a you're bringing me back right now.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
This is bringing me so much joy. I have to
go listen to.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It would have been so much fun the whole.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Like I also think like it makes me it would
be fun.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yes, oh god, that would have been.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It makes me. I would have been insane.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That would have been.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
But what but would you guys have done the whole
no stringe? Would you guys merged with like no stringed
or something like that?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I would have been I think we should have done
a full yeah, like we could have done a full
boy band episode. I mean I would have loved to.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
You wouldn't have You wouldn't have had room for the
true deeper cook.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
No, you're right, I mean you're that would have been great.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I'm a collector. I've got all the stuff right here.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Oh my god, the best one, I'm so mad the
Christmas album. You have the actual CD and Kevin but
there was we were in some studio and somebody has
the plaque for the Christmas album.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
We never got like a platinum plaque for I. I. I,
you know, I correct plaque and.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Do you So.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I've been on the hunt for one.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Too, Okay, if you find one, because I saw one
in a studio. I don't know where. It was a
recording studio. It was either Chalice or it was this
other place I know.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And Kenny we saw one in London as well that
we when we were in London that they gave. You
were so mad we didn't get.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
We took pictures with it when it went platinum and.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
One there one when your like Me went gold and
it was like a swashy one.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Oh my god, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I think you are right.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
There was also like ripped out too.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So there was an O to award that we because
we're selling out the O two for two weeks straight
that we all got and Kevin and I never got ours.
But it's a it's a standing slushy with the slushy
coming out.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Of it too, and we never got it.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
It's one I've got plaques on this Wall for like
dream Street and.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
The Lake McGuire soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I have dream Street, Greg and Jasey.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I got to talk there for the podcast you did.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I did Broadway Kids with Greg, so I've known Greg
since I.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Was like twelve.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Wow, that's crazy. Oh my gosh, Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
This is wonderful. I love it also, like we grew
up like liking all of the exact same things.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, here's the thing. My oldest sister is seven years
older than me. So when I was five six years old, yes,
I was watching Nicolone and all that fun stuff, but
I was watching t R too, totally. I lived through
(27:05):
all of it.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yes, I had much older siblings itself. I love that
because you do get this breadth of like knowledge and
pop culture information and exposure.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
But it was such a good time for pop culture,
and I feel like back to Glee. Glee was the
last pop culture juggernaut of a kind like that, like
you had you had like how many albums did you have? Albums?
(27:39):
Not even and like the contract tour and like I
never got to go. I'm so bummed about it. But
again you always say when like that, he can make
it up for right now?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Are there other TV?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Shows that you watch that you liked in the vein
of Glee that had like a pop culture influence on
the world.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I I think one of my other favorite shows a
little earlier was ship Bring of the Teenage.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Which, oh yeah, too good.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
If that really had a pop culture into it.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean yeah, now, Gilmore Girls, that's my favorite show the.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Okay, I knew this because Amy Sherman Palladino is the
queen of pop culture references.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
So there's like easter eggs every there.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah, I know, and that was that. There's only two shows.
There's only like three shows that I've ever fully been
like that wasn't a limited Cirie and a week Glee
and with Gilmore and How I Met Your Mother?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Oh wow, good company there.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
How many have you watched how many times have you
watched Glee like the full series? Do you know?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Maybe like six times?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Oh wow?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
And I go there. I will say there are episodes,
and I don't think you've ever acted on the podcast.
I'll just go let it out there. There are episodes
that I go back to because they're comforting to me.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, what are some of your comfort episodes?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Like Dreams Come True?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:42):
And people arguing, Kay, the two thousand and nine should
have really been the cap off, but I really like
dreams Come True and how it how Yeah, but everything
up a little bit. And another controversial one that I
have that made our mutual friend Andrew from the Week
(30:05):
of the Week shocked is moving out. Really I go
on that episode because of already storyline with Becky. I
think that is show that that much so cool for you,
Kevin to be with that, be with that class and
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that group of people. It's just because that's the kind
of school that I went to before I went to
public school. Wow, I really connected with that.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, that was the best storyline in the episode.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I really enjoyed that. And it was one of those
things too where it's like, how lucky are we to
be on a show that we get to have this
as a storyline because that just wasn't a thing that
was happening on television like that, And you know, for
all of its ups and downs of the show and
the crazy storylines and unhinged things like Ryan Brad and
(31:07):
Ian really had sort of that like I don't know, compass,
So like we are showing these things because they obviously
exist and it's not right that they're not being shown.
And and we're very aware of the the reach and
the platform that they had on network television on talks
to be able to.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
With the last show to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
So you that's it. Nobody else has done this if.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
You look there. There was a show on ABC a
couple of years back called mm hmm and Where You
Shit Calm. It was multi cam and yep, it acted
you know, three seasons, but then but then we had
to wait again for representation again. Yeah, it's like when
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we have it, it goes your.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Way, which is like a problem that.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Nobody that's I know, that's the business, but you know
when it when it comes down to it, like it's
just like you know, seeing you know, a person of color,
Like we want more of it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, because that's life, that's real life being.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
And there's no reason why they can't be involved in everything. Yes,
like those storylines and those characters, like it's it's it's
not right that we have you have to wait for
like a special project. It's like one TV show that
right exactly fills the void as opposed.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And then it's off and then you have to wait
again for something else that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I mean, there are very few things. I mean, I
got there is this brilliant movie that Disney did, like
a coming of age young adult movie called Out of
My Mind, and I got to do publicity for that,
and you know even that like that, that can movie
that will live on forever. But when the next thing?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Right, that was one movie?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Right? Very how have you? How has I mean, even
though representation seems pretty infrequent, have you noticed a change?
I guess you know since Glee, Like let's say, the
like me getting hired to play already would not fly
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today and rightly so. And do you think like representation
in that way has changed.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I think I think people are. I think it's gotten better,
but it's still not the norm. Right yeah, right now.
I'm not saying that every character has to be in
a share. If you've got the chop and if you've
done it, if you've done enough research, if if you
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have the tools to do it, then you couldn't do it.
I mean, I don't think it's necessarily all that bad
because you're only the representation is there. That's what matters
to me.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
For sure. You have such a deep understanding of like
pop culture and always. It's clearly not just TV or
film or music, it's everything. And it's amazing that you
share that with people because you clearly like you think
about these things deeply and you are able to take
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a encyclopaedia.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, and I would love to have you guys both
on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I would love to come on and just talk pop
culture with you. Do you ever do you like do
places call to consult your opinion about things? Because like you,
oh so much?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
They I mean, I've got sometimes people ask me. I
mean a couple years ago, I got to work with
the Fred Rogers production people, got to work with mister
Rogers team on some stuff, and they told me that
they use one of my interviews as a guide in
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one of their production meetings, and I was like.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Wow, excuse me, wow, I am, I am, but.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
But it literally just like the thing I always say
to people is this, I always say when I have
these conversations with you, I don't I don't expect you
to go in the next day and change your script
automatically because of something that I said. MM, but if
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I could change your perspective for at least one second,
then I've done my job.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
To get ready to look at it.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Do you have because I have more Glee questions for
you because.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
The music element was in there.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I feel like music is such a huge part of
your encyclopedia. That must have been like so exciting for
you each week because in.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Addition to you know, the show itself.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
No, and it was, I mean I would. I'm looking
through my collection of being to dig out and all
my Glee music aside from this one is in storage,
and I was so like, I didn't realize how much
I had because I there's a lot of stuff. I
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had everything. Wow. But I think I'm gonna get be
a couple of my favorite songs because I think they're
they're the unexpected one.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Well, yeah, after you throw a pupa master already. Yeah,
I'm ready for it.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
And I think my Love is your Love is one
of them.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yes, he gets it.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Well, you gotta you gotta, you gotta remember the time
period that I.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Talk about right there, Yep, exactly.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
That's right there. Yeah, I love never going back again.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yes, best one of your favor Here's.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
A random one that I really liked that a lot
of people don't talk about. Not because it's bad. I
honestly don't know why, but I think it happened after
we are young by fun blow up. For you guys,
every indie band wanted their song featured on Glee And
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here's another one. This is the New Years.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Agree is yes, this is a finger on the pulse again.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
But I need to ask you your opinion on Oh
you're like maybe because what's version? Do you? What are
your opinion on the song in general? Because I mean
Max Martin is working with you guys on it, and yes,
(38:38):
write it. You know it's a pop hit. I mean radio,
you've got radio airplay with it. But what do you
guys think of it?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Honestly, we we didn't love it. We and as someone
who we all grew up in the dawn of Max
Martin pop music, so favorite producer of all time, I
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think we were concerned about the level of you know,
we're doing all these classic songs that already hits and
that's what people know us for, and they're phenomenal songs,
and then I think for us it was hard to
then square that with singing about like I'll call you
back when I'm your boss. Yeah, like the lyrics of it,
(39:35):
and we like had to sit down with Ryan, because
we were all so worried about it. We cared so much,
and we're like, we were out of our minds. I
don't know why we thought we were, like the audacity
of us, and Ryan was sort of no, I believe
we're doing it, and so my thoughts about it now
(39:56):
are very different. But the.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Production wise it top tier production.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Love the production totally.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I think. I think for me, this is where I
thought you.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Were going with this, Kevin.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
We were doing, Yes, we were doing top forty. We
were doing a lot of Max Martin. Obviously he produces
on everything. We were also doing like Queen, like Bohemian
Rhapsody and some and Somebody to Love and like Journey,
but exactly so, we're doing these really cool rock pop,
(40:39):
you know, hits that were so different and then putting
our spin on it, and I feel like that was
like exciting to people who had been a fan of
those and then also you know, introducing these for the
first time to younger generations with loser like me, it
felt a little too bubblegum pop for what we were
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doing and the level of work we were doing it at.
Production wise, I thought it was great, and obviously I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
I'm going to kind of act that okay my opinion
because I think it is it was done at the
perfect time for you, because I think the only I'm
ancule radio NERD to the point where I know charge
(41:30):
can you know?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
And I think we are so similar.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
I think the only the only stations that we're playing
you guys were a C station. True, and I think
having the audience of GUI at the time. This was
season two, so the show kind of skewed more to
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a teen audience. Yeah, right, what do teen audience? He's
listened to top forty radio.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
This sme day.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
That's right? Where So the song was right where I
needed to be Lyrically, Yeah, I agree to it all
here and or there, but it's like I feel, I
think it's a perfect song.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Wow, So what did you think about the one hundred version? Then?
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Are we confusing because you love the original so much?
Speaker 2 (42:38):
That's what I'm not.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Even that like. First of all, like Blaine doesn't even
know the song. In the episode of season two, how
did he get how did he how did he how
did he suddenly hear this?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Welcome, Welcome to Lee, This is Glee.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I said, you're a deep thinker about these things, and
you sometimes glee. You can't.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yeah, you can't go too deep or you'll run yourself
into the ground.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
I will also say, like, this is why you should
be consulted on pop culture things like shows and stuff,
because your opinion is exactly what Ryan and Adamanders and
they were all right about, and we were all very wrong.
It's also you're right. It fits with the time period
for us, the demo for us, and the lyrics we
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were writing our own songs as sixteen year old characters,
so amazing.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
It's really funny because you can probably guess one of
my favorite episode of your podcast is Adamanders back Top two,
but I think one of the one that I really
loved with Joe Early.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yes, yes, of course, because.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
For my podcast, a big part of my brand is
just branding and and and and esthetic and what do
I want my audience to seem m Because you truth
be told, a lot of people saw me as a
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preschool television kids show guy because a lot of that
stuff was what I covered in the beginning to game
back to what I could get. And now the episode
that I just really was with Tricia with Marley's mom,
(44:48):
we just we just recorded with her a couple of
months ago. We had a lot to talk about from
the special education angle, of course, But I but my
point in king that is, I'm not just one thing.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yep, yep, that's right.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
And yeah, I think it confuses a lot of people
when I'll cover something like Glee or my other favorite,
my other favorite TV show of all time is the
Mary Tyler Moore show.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Best I Shall Be Ever what a great Oh my god, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Yeah, So it's it's not one thing.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah, I think. And then that's what yeah, And I mean,
that's nobody is just one thing. And it's so easy
to put everybody in some bocks in a box, especially
when they don't know about a different persons like life, yeah,
and what they have to go through. It's like, well,
in my head, you're easier to understand if I reduce
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you to this very oversimplified version that I have in
my head, right because I have no context and just
talking to you for the past forty five minutes, all
the different things that you know about and like like that,
that's you can't put that into any sort of box.
But that's what makes a person great and worth knowing
(46:24):
and worth listening to fifteen hundred episodes of a podcast
I have.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
I have how many questions for you? But I don't
want to take.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Up no ask away?
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Ask away, Like do you feel like.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
When you think of God, I am merchandise conglomerate that
it was what what is your favorite peek of merch
that you guys have?
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Oh man, there was so much.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
There's actually the most ridiculous, like really it can endoring
your life?
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Why we I For me, it was my parents still
have this in their pantry. It was a real like
I stopped in my tracks and I was like, oh
my god, this show is really big moment in the
grocery store and we were on like a Ritz Cracker box.
I remember that, yeah, And it was one of those
(47:24):
things where like I'm just chopping, going about my business
and I look up and there's our faces on a
Ritz Cracker box and like you know, like like Olympians
being on whedies and all these things things that like
to me being obsessed with pop culture like you or like,
those are significant like markers of that success.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
That your equivalent of the back Boys having that burger
that burger king meal.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yes, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Were we being character on this box? Yes, this is crazy.
I there's so many things that like, we didn't even
know about. We didn't know we were on. I remember
getting Awei at the time we was really popular.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
I had the game and the game and then I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
If this was soul or if this was special because
we were on it. They sent us we systems with
our Glee picture on the side.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be completely nerdy here for
a second. That video game system is the only video
game system that I can play by my show because
you're to help the shability friendly.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
So when so when I saw you guys were when
a karaoke game and we going We and the Switch too.
I love the Switch.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yes, but they didn't have to like run those things
by us, like the merch. We had no idea, so
we didn't like. Yeah, I didn't know until I was
in a grocery store.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Do you wish do you wish that you've had a.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Doll kind of Yeah, Yeah, that would have been cool.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
People made them the pops, which I see some in
your behind you.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
I have a two hundred of them.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Oh my god, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
We had a wonderful fan who made us our ardientina pops.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
I have mine, Dad.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
I'm hoping that they were lease somebody licenses them, because
yeah I will. I will get those big one.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
I know I would do.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Actually, we don't. All those characters will look so cute
as punk o pop.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
I know, no, are we thinking of are thinking of
fun little nostalgic crossover questions. So if the Glee cast,
how the hit clip? Remember hit clip?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Oh my god, yes, no, what is it? He's too old?
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (50:14):
It a little micro how how big bore.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Hipp I mean it was pretty big.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
No, it was like a we like something on a
key chain.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Oh I think you meant like how famous it was,
because oh yeah, it was like a little It was
almost like a.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Look, I don't know what, oh like a little yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
So and it only played like what thirty seconds for
a minute of a song? Yes, oh my god, what
song do you think? Obviously don't stop right, but are
there any others that that you think would make the.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Cut as like a Glee merch hip clip?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, you know, for for something like this.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
I feel like Jump like Van Halen, like our Jump
song would make it.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
I also feel like somebody love might make it.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
I mean it would have been perfect for loser like me.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
Yeah, and then they.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Would have had some weird duet on there like like
nowhere thank you exactly, which we love.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
But I'm just saying, like you'd be like, why this one?
Speaker 4 (51:26):
You know? I would? I mean, I know I know
that Jenna want to buy it because if you had
gungam style.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
I would definitely I would.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
I would burn it to the ground, throw it into
oncoming traffic.
Speaker 4 (51:44):
And it's funny because I've been, you know, to prep
for this, I've been watching my my favorite episode, like
you could read Get My Help into the World Again.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
My favorite episode, Kevin on the entire show is your
favorite episode.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
On the Alcohol. Yes, guys, this is why we've had
this connection now for like twenty years, because we have
the same daste.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
Do you have any more questions for us, because we
you know, we obviously have a question for you.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
A final question for you.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
Do you have a I do have a couple more
questions for you.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Great, go for it.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
No, If now Big Morning is for you, Kevin, if
you were to write an already hen trick episode of
the show where it was already kind of in the
vein of we always where you wanted to keep the
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Green Cup? The Green Club are acting about something, where
would you want to take it?
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Oh ooh.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Interesting? I hmmm. I think Artie as Kevin or Artie.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
Either or either or.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Hm hmm.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
I I feel like several times throughout the series Artie
was referred to as uh well, one time he was
referred to sort of like the glue of the group. Yes,
And I feel like he got into it a couple
of times with like Rachel storming off and personality things
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like that. I think it may be a lesson in
being a team player, understanding other people perspectives and how
it's not not everything is easy for everybody else, and
like to have the empathy for everybody else around you,
because I think a lot of times in high school
or as performers, people can be a little self centered
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and I think maybe think just a little, just a little.
They're all just you know, projecting insecurity on everybody else.
So I feel like maybe in that vein would have
been something through R and B music.
Speaker 4 (54:30):
That I mean that the other thing I think it
would have been funny if you did. We'll be two
k crawl over moment on Glee.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
Mean you're speaking his language. Do you know how often
I in the back of my head, I was like,
I wish we could just do like Nya is in
a B two K music video, like I was signed
to B two K. People like, but I'm like, I
know Ryan Murphy has never even heard beat Another, and
I was like, I can't pitch this.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
Another fun throwback for Artie that I think would be
fun is got to Get Through This by Daniel Beddingfield.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
Stop this, Wow, Stop this right now.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Guys are really wow.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
The way I was obsessed.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
With mine mold mine, mold right here.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
Ah wow, wow, wow, wow wow, you said Daniel.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Man, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
I can't believe you've unlocked. So every time someone's like,
what if you have done on Glee Daniel Field, he.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Said that in every red carpet. Wow impressive.
Speaker 4 (55:45):
I feel like that week one of those moments where
I do feel like it'd be so much fun because
that could have ween that song could have worked so
many differentiations.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Absolutely totally missed opportunity for you.
Speaker 4 (55:59):
Jenna we Very song from the ninety earlier early two thousands,
that that you want, that you would have wanted.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
Yeah, I luckily I got like I got a lot
of the music that I was a fan of at
the time, like Florence and Katie and Gaga, Like I
felt like I really Ryan really listened to me in
that in that way. But I was just thinking, we
never we never did, and obviously this is very hard
to accomplish, but we never did, Mariah, like we never
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did like Daydream or Music Box or any of those
which were such staples in my life.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
I think you would have done a good just a
Girl by No Doubt.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Oh that's so good too.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Honestly, that No Doubt album two I would have loved
to have done. I.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Wow, that's right. That would really suit you.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
That was really that's really good, Actually.
Speaker 2 (56:59):
I know it is.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Why didn't we do that?
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah? No, that's good.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
That wow?
Speaker 4 (57:08):
Yeah, Okay, because there were some times where you guys
would pull out the deep corks. Yeah, there there was
always room for more.
Speaker 3 (57:18):
Yeah, I would have loved for anybody to really pull
out like the Emo the Emo episodes, like I would
have loved.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
I know, it's not our show, and it wasn't right.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
I also don't think it would work in a school shetting.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
I mean give me some like give me some green
day doochie, and like give me and like give me
some like I don't know. I just feel like give
me some dashbark professional or sympol like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
It's like we were so.
Speaker 4 (57:49):
The fun one for me that I think would be
fun because I always loved when the the other band
members would come in right, So think about this Ocean
Avenue Yellow Card.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
I cannot the amount of times my husband makes fun
of me for talking about that album and talking about
Yellow Card is actually really yes all the time, He's like,
where's your Yellow Card?
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Because I love Yellow Card Love.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
I'm pretty sure they made me gay. I love them.
I was upset crushes on all of them.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
What a great bit.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
But I will okay and then I'll shut.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
No, this is great. We are shocked, like these are
these song references. We've talked about this so many times
for so many years, and no one has ever said
gotten it.
Speaker 4 (58:46):
These songs one song that I've show influential to me
in my childhood. It would never make Hank for the
show because honestly, there was a other intel actual I
p connected to it, and it the boy actually Mayer
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song from the rug Reck movie.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
If you had told me that this song was going
to come up today, I would have put everything, my
loved ones, any money I've ever earned on the line
of it, Like you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (59:27):
That music video, that music video, but what wow, very good.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
One of the greatest songs of all time.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
All time. It's ingrained in me.
Speaker 2 (59:41):
I can see the music video in my right.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
They will never not see it.
Speaker 4 (59:46):
Nobody, nobody appreciates that.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
You're right now, and I can't believe that you just
brought that up.
Speaker 4 (59:55):
That was the first hit I ever bought. Oh my god,
and every time I heard it, I will When I
would be going into school, my mom would have to
hold the bush to show I could hear the music
video on the TV. Like I just I remember that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
It's also for a bus ride take me there. I
like that.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Oh my gosh, I am that's really good.
Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
This is so much fun.
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
We didn't do now, I'm just like, we didn't do.
Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
I feel bad. I feel bad that I'm taking over all.
Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Oh we didn't Okay, we didn't do Maya. We didn't
do any maya.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
You could have done Cake of the act that would
have been so good.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Oh my god, so pissed if I didn't get to
do a case of the X. No.
Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
No, it's like a it's like a Britanna song, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Okay, that's how I heard, Like how they're dancing, I
wouldn't have been singing it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
We get some backup dancers, did.
Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
You guys ever do no dignity?
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I don't think that would Yeah, that makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
But yeah, back my deep cut for you.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Okay, Well, I'll never forget it alone.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Now I can't stop thinking it all.
Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
We'll talk more about this when you appear on my.
Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Okay, great, I'm gonna have to go through my was like, whoa,
I'm there.
Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Okay, So before we let you go, we really could
talk to you forever.
Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Is what is the feeling like Lee leaves you with.
Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
It leaves I mean with feeling of being thankful because
I'm I've always been a fan of the show, but
I'm fairly new to the fandom, like meeting other gleeks
and I mean I had to give a shout out
(01:02:19):
to Andrew for from Gleek of the Week forgetting to
action touch because he's been such a really big advocate
for me and what I do. But I'm just so
thankful that your show with the vehicle for so many
things in my life, whether you knew it or not,
(01:02:45):
and it made me feel like I'm waking alone anymore.
And I wanted to thank you for that too.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Thank you, thank you. Yeah, that hearing and meeting people
who took so much away from the show and that
way means so much to us. You never expect that
to happen, and that was the greatest gift the show
has ever given us and keeps giving us. So thank
you for loving the show and seeing it and spending
(01:03:18):
so much time with us today. Yeah, we really really
appreciate it. And you, you know, doing prep to come
on here. I can't wait to come on your show.
I feel like everyone needs to go listen to your
podcast because you're incredible.
Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
I might have your price gets for your fro, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Oh my god. Please tell us where people can find
you and listen to your podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
I'm everywhere, I'm where, we everywhere. You can find me
at djbobshow dot com. You can find me on Instagram
at dj Bob Show podcast or my personal instagram Runk
Instagram which is my last name, mame. I'm I'm a
(01:04:07):
pun guy. So are you? N K Star Graham and
you'll follow me there and I've got everything everything go there.
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
An icon and a legend. Thank you so so much
for joining us. It was so nice to see you again.
Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Thank you guys so much, Thank you so much. It
was so nice to meet you. Yeah, for sure, ye.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Oh my gosh, why did I get I'm so intimidated
by him.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I'm because he's a real podcast host. We're just faking it.
Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
No, but also like knows everything everything that's great. References
were jaw dropping.
Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I am shook.
Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
What a great human Glee fan podcaster. We're so lucky
we got that episode.
Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
I feel humbled by in every sort of way. I'm
in awe.
Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
It also must feel like, oh, very special for you, Kevin,
because like I feel very grateful for hearing his what
he took away from the show.
Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
I can only imagine what that means for you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Yeah, it's hard to verbalize. Yeah, I'm not. You could
probably tell I was stumbling through all that because I've
always felt really conflicted about me playing a character and
a chair, especially as you know, time's gone on and
we've learned to know better. And for me, the driving
(01:05:46):
force was always that it was about the representation. And
I have to trust that, you know, Ryan and everybody did.
They thought I was the best for the role, and
that was that and and so it is. It's nice
to be reminded that the show did have that impact
on people, especially people in chairs. And yeah, I'm just
(01:06:08):
I'm just so incredibly grateful and humbled and thankful to
have someone like Bob who got so much from the
show and party and you and Alarti. Yeah, and like
I know, it is not about me. It is about
you know, Artie and the way that you also.
Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Handled him so well.
Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
You you handled Arty with such care and such you know, uh,
you were so conscious about everything and so careful and
kind and thoughtful about it all and about your fans
and about the character, and so it is a testament
to you as well, and how you handled it all
and your con you know, constant care for Artie and
(01:06:55):
how those storylines were perceived.
Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
And done and just everything.
Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
And the writers did too though, you know, the writers,
like I think everybody, each of us got to be
a fully fledged character and we got to yeah, challenge
the cliches and stereotypes that people may associate with any
of our characters.
Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
And like Bob, he's so much more, you know what
I mean, He's not just one thing.
Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
So yes, exactly, Bob, you just be My face hurts
from smiling and I'm shocked. Take me their reference at
the end of but snuck that in Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
There?
Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Before Daniel Bedingfield, I cannot.
Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Get out of here and go subscribe to DJ Bob
Podcast and listen because clearly an expert in all things
pop culture. And thank you so much for spending this
much time with us, and that's what you really missed. Yeah,
thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and
(01:07:58):
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