June 12, 2025 • 34 mins
While "Glee" definitely had some pretty unhinged storylines, it was also a groundbreaking show that put LGBTQ+ stories front and center on prime-time TV! The actor at the center of the season six episode, "Transitioning," is back on the pod! Yes, Dot Marie Jones joins Jenna and Kevin to talk about her portrayal of Coach Beiste's transition to Sheldon. Dot reveals the many conflicted emotions she experienced when she received the script, fear of letting the trans community down, and the reaction she got from fans. She also gets emotional remembering sharing the stage with the 200-member transgender choir for "I Know Where I've Been." Plus, Dot has Kevin and Jenna howling with laughter when she tells them about the time she ended up at a swingers resort, thanks to Chord Overstreet! True story. For fun, exclusive content, and behind-the-scenes scoops, be sure to follow on Instagram @andthatswhatyoureallymissedpod!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's what you Really miss podcast. Returning customer.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh yeah, and it's a good one because an icon.
She has a big old episode and we want to
talk to her all about it and getting into it
the episode of transitioning and our guest is dot Marie Jones.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
And we may or may not make her cry several times.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
She needs no introduction and enjoy the episode.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Done. What is going on?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You look great?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Honey? Sixty one's been good?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You look so look better than ever? Crazy baby?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Come on, you're not paying me enough.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We're not bang you at all. Wait, I am paying you?
Oh god?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I'm doing good. I'm doing good, trying to stay busy,
you know, same?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, same different day a man.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
You guys look fantastic. Why you got to grow up
on me?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I know what are you talking about? I still look
twenty three? Right, Kevin?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
You still look eighteen?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Oh? Thank you so much?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
And you too?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh thanks Scott.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Mom.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I know it's crazy, I know I feel old. Ohney,
just wait, how are your niece doing.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Well? I have them both replaced now, so so you
have a little trouble with the one that will be
two years old in September. It's just I don't know it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Happy birthday to your knees, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I hope it shapes up.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, yeah, we're.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Done for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Well, it's good to see you. Thank you so much
for coming back on again. We're almost to the end
of the series.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Can you believe it?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
That's crazy, I know we are. And then are you
going to do the aftermath exactly?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That that will take years?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
That's hello, after hours, Yeah, after hours and cocktails, that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Then we go back and then tell you know what
really happened underneath.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, that's what you really really missed, yeah, or what.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You didn't miss, right, to be thankful you didn't know this?
That right?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
No, no, god, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Okay, so we're on to your episode transitioning, uh huh,
and we just want to hear about your experience and
when did you all the questions so like, did Ryan
call you and tell you this was happening? Do you
(03:25):
remember like when you found out?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Okay, you want to know how I found out? I
found out? Well, I didn't know what because you know,
I never told us anything. And he at the hundred
remember the hundredth episode party. Yeah, I went up to
him and he says, Dot Marie, I have big plans
for your character in season six. And my response was, well,
(03:52):
better be a series regular?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What good God, good god?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
And I'm I. He goes, is that what you want?
I said, this is going on to my fifth season
being on the show as a guest star. Of course,
that's all I've ever wanted. Right then, that's what we'll do.
But you know, you never know what's going to happen.
And then they did it, and then I didn't know.
I honestly didn't know what his big plans were for
(04:21):
a Beast until I got that first script.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Wowowow.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I was kind of disappointed because i'd Beast had always
been like the big girl's advocate in a sense where
it doesn't matter how big you are, how strong you are,
you don't know what he's going through at home, because
I'm going back to like the domestic.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, it's really really powerful with couters, and.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I was like, I didn't want to let anybody down.
And my thing is is I always want to do
whatever character I'm doing I want to do it justice,
and I want to do it right, and I want
to do everything in my power to make it authentic.
I guess is a good word.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
And one of the things I had done is at
the same time y'all were doing this the pilot for Glee,
I did Ryan's pilot pretty handsome.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yep, that's right, which you were incredible and by the.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Way, baby, you're sweet. I played a trans character or
a trans f to m and Alexandria Billings played my
wife and who is a real life into f trans woman,
and I could not love her more because I said, again,
(05:42):
going all the way back to what was at nine
two thousand and nine or something, Yeah, I wanted to
do it justice, and I said, I am going to
ask you every question possible and oh my god, yeah,
and anybody that I knew, I loved her anyway. She
was so incredible and I asked her so many questions
(06:03):
because again, I never want to disrespect anybody I'm portraying.
And so that fast forward to season six of Glee.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Okay, this is happening, and I want to be authentic
and I want to do it. I want to do
Beasts or Shannon going to Sheldon Justice. And I don't
think I've ever been so emotional doing something in my life.
And I you know, I cry opening an envelope.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's true, it's true. You know it's true, and it's beautiful.
I don't know if I know anybody else who is.
Their emotions are just right there. You get one hundred
percent of you all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You cry right now. But as far as like doing
the transitioning episode and with Alex, who I just love
Alex know who I love so much and they're so
incredible and it made it so fun. But I was
so emotional because I know, I don't know if a
(07:18):
lot of people knew. I mean, I'm sure you kids knew,
but there was a what was it, two hundred person choir.
Every single one of them was trans and the biggest
thing that I got was and they would come up
to me and they said, I never see you guys,
(07:40):
damn it. They'd say I never thought i'd see myself
on TV. But they didn't mean themselves personally. They someone
to portray this and to represent yeah, exactly. And I
can't even tell you. I cried the whole way home
the day we should that, and and it was it
(08:06):
was overwhelming, and I again, I was just glad, and
they thanked me. They thanked me for doing that, and
I'm like, no, that was one thing I love about Ryan,
Ian and and and and Brad is they wanted to
represent everybody. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, And I
(08:28):
mean I I just it was so emotionally charged and
the whole the whole thing leading up to that, and
and and doing some of those scenes that were just
you know, Jane's character, Jane Lynch. I mean, it was.
(08:48):
It was incredible to do a lot of the scenes
like when I first tell her what's going on and
stuff and yes, and her being her being the heart crushing,
brutal just saying whatever her character would just say whatever
came to mind.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And it was like, oh my god, yeah, usually inappropriate.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
H yeah, I mean obviously not her, but her character.
And it was it was overwhelming. And this response was mixed,
to be honest, what I got from people and fans
after that is like people were let down, and I'm like,
got it. I don't write it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But the overall response was incredible and appreciative, and you
know you don't think of that, and I, like, I say,
I never want to disrespect anybody and portraying, and one
thing is I'll never do something that disrespects women or
(09:54):
puts women down. And I mean I've turned down jobs
that were just stupid. So the way I see it,
I was looking for a job when I got that one,
and you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, so but
it was it was awesome. It was awesome, and I
(10:16):
mean I was in my fifties and it was educational.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah yeah, I mean it was educational for us, and
it was educational I'm sure for the people who are
watching at home. It always means so much more where
you see it, you know, you taking it seriously of like, Okay,
I have to do this, this is my job, this
is what I signed up for. And then like, you know,
just to sort of echo what you were saying, we
(10:41):
don't necessarily you can't necessarily feel that millions of people
are going to see this, right, And so whether it's
a trans person who finally gets to see themselves on TV,
or maybe it's a transperson's family who is it's helping
them accept their child or you know, their loved one
(11:01):
or their friend and you just never ever know. And
that never got old on this show because we all
got to like play in that world and it was
just so meaningful.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, and it's it is so meaningful. And I always said,
there are so many lessons in every single episode of
that show, regardless of who somebody identifies with. I mean,
I had women back going back to the abuse one
with Kuter and the domestic abuse with my husband, and
(11:34):
I had actually women and men saying that that show
helped give them strength to get out of a relationship.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Wow, And here it's like we're doing this show that
never I always say, be careful, how with words, because
you never know how they're going to affect somebody. So
be authentic, be be mindful, right because there's no do overs.
(12:04):
When you say something and it's out there and it's
like it was overwhelming. And then cut to you know five,
I was you know, that was season two, and then
cut to season six and it was the being represented
and it was, oh my god, you guys, it was
so emotional and it was so and like in the
(12:28):
scene where we're all singing it, I was really crying.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, you talked about being authentic and yeah, once you
say it, it's out there. There's not a better person
to have had this role on the show. Like we
(12:54):
started this interview by saying that your emotions and your
authenticity are right on the surface. And whether it's season two, three, four, five,
or six, whatever you had, whether it was comedy or
whether it was drama, you are so connected and authentic.
(13:14):
You bring your you know, people are actors out there.
You know there's like bring yourself to the character, but
you would bring your vulnerability, your openness to learning about it.
You can see that and every single scene you're in
because you had some really heavy stuff, Yeah, some really
complicated things. Then that is a tightrope and the way
(13:36):
like watching you execute that, it's masterful and come on,
it's true. I just watched Transitioning right before this, and like,
you know, the episode a couple episodes prior to that
where it starts to happen like in Sue pops up
and defends you. And that was also really nice personally
(14:01):
because you and Jane are like two of the kindest
people on the planet, and that was very much. Oh,
this is a dot in Jane moment for me. I'm
like I'm glad. You know, everyone knows Sue and she's
a hard ass and she's a little cuckoo. And I
was like, uh, seeing like that's Jane's you know, authentic
(14:21):
self coming through would mean like, I'm gonna protect you
no matter what. And then to see her, you know,
do that through this episode as well. But let's talk
about that musical number four second, because I remember being there,
and I don't even think I remember. I don't think
I was aware of the significance of having three hundred
(14:43):
trans people on national television. When has that ever happened?
And it probably has not ever happened since? Ye, right,
And you had people like Sasha Colby, who's world famous
drag queen. You have Ts Madison, who is an icon.
You had and people you know who have become very
famous and mono on their own right singing their hearts
(15:06):
out and you were crying. So many people were crying
and smiling and the joy Oh my god, well just say, oh,
I mean that vocal If that didn't make you cry
to it And I was like, I don't know that.
You know that vocal is dumb good?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So good? Yeah, tell us someone. It was like for
that day. I know you said it was emotional, but
well it was.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
It was incredible, and it was like, and I'm looking around,
and I think part of what made me a part
of it made me cry so much is that when
I was looking around, you could just see how proud
every single person was who was there singing, and they
were singing their hearts out. And and Alex God, he
(15:52):
could sing the phone book and it would sound beautiful,
and it was just it was so it was an
incredible and I was so proud to be a part
of something like that, you know, because I mean so
many times it's like that, you know, we did so
many silly things and that was a blast to go
to work or go to recess as I call it.
(16:14):
But I was so proud. I mean, there's so many
episodes on that show that I was so incredibly proud
to be a part of. I mean, let alone, getting
to hang with you little brats every day that I
was there was the best. And so many laughs there
was it was like talk about the spectrum. So many laughs,
(16:35):
so many heartbreaks, so many tears. Yeah, so many accolades
that we were I mean, just being a party.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That show was spoiled yeah, yes, I mean, you know
I thought was really funny, was you know, I love
you and Chord together, love you and Chord together. And
this season it's been wonderful having him as the assistant coach.
H But I just think back to that first week
(17:04):
when you and Kord were both on the show for
the first time, and you and I were looking at
each other like, who is this clown.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
And Carrie Beaucy imitation. Yes, I still send him means
of him.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
And you and I like bonded over being like this puppy.
Oh god, and you have you have these beautiful scenes together,
and I was just like, ah, this is so wonderful
for so many different reasons of like seeing everybody's growth
and like your family succeeding in this way.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yes, right exactly, and it's like, you know, it was
a gift beyond Oh my god, it was so much fun.
And Cord is just such a little puppy. Did I
ever tell you guys about the silly movie I did
with Cord?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
No, okay. First of all, my agent called I was
in I was in Atlanta doing the Resident the Hospital show,
and I was going to fly back the next day
to LA and Brittany, my manager, agent, calls me and says, hey,
(18:19):
there's this movie that they want to offer you this
role and blah blah blah. And I'm like, wait what
and they said, well, it's his character. She's a therapist.
And I said, wait to say it, and she said
somebody had referred me. I said, wait who referred me?
(18:40):
And she goes court over street and I said, I'll
do it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Shut up.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I don't even need to read the script. I'll do it. Yes.
So then I go. I'm talking to Bridget, my wife
on my way home, and I know, you guys know
Bridges my wife, but yeah, got to keep the kids
up to date for fourteen years whatever. So I'm on
(19:08):
my way back to LA and I'm telling Bridge I said,
I think I'm going to do this thing with Cord
And then Brittany calls me back and says, oh, it's
shooting in Jamaica. And I'm like what, And so I'm like, hell, yeah,
I'll go. So I'm like, I go back to La.
I had to turn around and leave the next day and.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
For just like, oh my god, where are you?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Where are you going? What do you say? Where you're staying?
I mean I'm old, it's Jerusalem, but I'm a little
naive on some things. But she, I said, someplace called
he he didn't heat. She goes headn Isn't, which is
a swingers resort stop in Jamaica. And I'm like, I said,
(19:57):
well she goes, you don't know. She had watched some
documentary on this place. So we went. I went the
next day, flew back there and I spent four days
in Hedonism and we actually stayed on location. I learned
a whole lot some people need to know just because
(20:21):
you can doesn't mean you should. And there is this
guy we called ball cap because that's all he wore
for the three days that we were there. They're just
walking around because that's there they're going. But it was
a blast and it was oh my god. And Court
is so cute and so funny. And Carolyn Carolyn Hennessy
(20:46):
with Carolyn Hennessy was there and uh E Bell, who
I hadn't seen. I did a bunch of married with
children like in ninety four ninety five. He was one
of them. No man, he was there and I'm like, Okay,
it was a blast and we were so and so.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Glad it worked out do you know.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
The look like they do in these pictures.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Oh honey, nobody on the grocure was there? Nobody? It was,
it was, It was so crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I would like to see a reality show with dot
doing like a road.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Like we read a show about Cordon Dott.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, exactly, what play like my my son?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know the swing of things.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
The swing of things.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
There you go, wait, this is so funny. I'm gonna
have to go figure it.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
And that's the young girl who played his girlfriend on
there there.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Oh, let me a cold though.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
She's the most sweetest.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Oh, it's all so honey. Well, what a time, what
a time.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
It was funny, it was.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That is really funny.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
And I play a sex therapist and that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Got it, got it, got it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Oh my gosh, you would be a great sex therapist.
Well we can do you good.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
You're good at everything.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
That's what I mean. I believe it like you non judgmental, honey.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
We could talk about anything exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
We have, yes, whether you wanted to hear about it
or not.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
That's very true, that is very true.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
We didn't give you a lot of choice, and.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I wouldn't change one thing.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Kevin Good.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Since we are coming to the end of the series
and we have you here on the show.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
And even that, like Beasts had done so many important
things on the show as well as like really great
comedicy things. I'm just curious, like your feelings of your
legacy of Coach Beast on the show. What stands out
to you or what do you hope that your legacy
(23:18):
left for people who are now watching.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
One thing I think, and I think because of me
and my size and stuff, is don't ever pigeonholed somebody.
You can't judge people by how they look, because, like
you said, like I said, you never know what anybody's
going through at home. And my character was such a
(23:42):
gift for me because it was so many different things
that I'd never played before. I mean, I of course
I played the biker chick, the prison guard, the dyke,
the barfighter, the bartender, everything, which I am so grateful for.
And you get to do this to where I mean,
I've played a lot of coaches, I mean, going back
(24:03):
to Lizzie McGuire first season, Hello, Forget and just I
mean the heart wrenching and seriousness of so many episodes,
and like for me, I never knew what was coming,
and I'm sure you kids didn't either. We never knew
what was coming until we got the script for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, I never.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
In my life dreamed that I would get to sing
a solo on that show, let alone when I got
to sing backup. I think one of the funnest backups
I ever did was with Jane for Jama's wedding Marmie
will Oh, We're so silly and had so much fun.
(24:48):
But then when I got the script saying that I
was going to sing Jolene, and I'm like, wait, I
had already done one Bourbon, one Scotch, one beer, George
thorowgood with mat. I got it and I'm looking through
it and I'm like, nobody's singing this with me?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, And I was.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I don't proclaim to be a singer. I mean, when
I ran into Brad at the grocery store, I said
I want to be on the show. I love it
because I'd been watching for a season. And he's like,
can you sing? And I'm like, oh, I'm no Mariah Carey,
but I kind of carry a tune and he laughed.
And then four months later they were writing me something right,
So it was such a gift. There were so many
(25:32):
gifts on that show with so much heartache, and you
can know on that show it was it was a
roller coaster to best you know, describe it. I mean
every single year was something.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Right, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah, it was a blessing. It was a blessing to
be a part of that and to have now a
chosen family that I love so much and you kids
will forever be my family.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Oh forever. And we were so lucky to have you
join in season two in the middle of all that
world wind whirlwind and having you're always so grounded. You
keep everybody's ass in line, not in the tough way
that your characters may may do, but you you are
(26:28):
that that sweet side and checking in with everybody and
a constant source of support and you know, emotional rawness
that is aspirational and was a lesson. You know, you
were teaching all of us just by being you. And
so we have what a gift.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
As we all know, there's too much fake out there.
I'm too hazy to retired to be doing that.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, it always made me giggle when you would do
like the tough coach beast like on the field yelling
because I'm like, that's so dot, but I love it
and it makes me like like, oh.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
That's fun.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
You're just so gentle and so pure.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, I'm like it also scenes when you're like talking
and then you start yelling at the football players in
the middle of it, and I get the giggles.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Yes, exactly, Like I can't even get scared because I'm
just like, oh, that's so funny, cute.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
I loved working on Choke with You, which was like
your big episode with Cooder, because you know, it's the
culmination of like it just was so beautiful to see it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
We don't get to work together. We didn't get to
work together.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
All that much, you know what I mean, Like we
pop in and out of scenes together, but just to
be able to like sing.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
To you and watch you work and.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Out shake it off.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah. I still when.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I hear that song on the radio because all I
can see is you girls singing it. Yeah, one of the.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Mm hmmm, yeah beautiful.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, that was an emotional one for all of us.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
I think singing to you, Yeah, to see that come
to life and it's just so nice. Yeah, it was
like nice to work with somebody who, like Kevin said,
when the adults, like when you and Jane came in,
you're like you.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Sit up a little taller.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
You're like, just just worked like a professional today, Jennal,
just work, you know, and but yet like a safe place,
like it still was safe, Like we felt safe with
all of our like you know, adult compadres, because like
it just was you guys were so wonderful and protective
of us and warm, and.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You had been through a lot of this in a
maybe not this exact way.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Obviously, but like been through it. So like even Michaelmalley
and row Me and just the one the wonderful humans
we had like leading the way for us who had
paved the way you know, and has worked and been
around so for so long before us to give us
the advice they gave us, and for you guys, and.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
It just was like so important to have that.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I'm not going to stay older because it's not older, but.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
You guys were just like that those leaders, yeah, experienced
leaders for us who had been like seen it all.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
We didn't know what the hell was going on, you know,
you know, I was. It reminds me of I remember
one of your first episode I think it was. And
I'm in the locker room with the boys and you're
yelling at all of us, and I just remember how
(29:41):
I didn't know you that well yet, and I was
so terrified You're yelling at me in my face. I
was like, Oh, she's good. Oh this is really And
then you know, cut like a few days later and
we're just like kicking out and giggling and talking on
the football field. I'm like, oh, never mind, she's just
a really good actor.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well that's questionable, no all.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I think. I think the fans, you know, you you
survivors of domestic abuse, the trans fans of the show
are on good hands with you representing those storylines and beautifully.
I'm glad I was part of a show that you
(30:28):
were on and that you got to show your abilities
and your care and your skill.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Oh sweetheart, beast is beloved.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Oh yeah, you guys are amazing. And I got to
say on the return of that, it was a gift
to sit in the audience and watch you kids bust
your ass on those eighteen hour days while you were
doing this stuff on stage, whether it was the song
doing it five times were over and then just going
(31:03):
from that to the scenes that we had and I'm
still tired.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Right too.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
There's a there's a usefulness that we'll never get back, right, Yeah,
I don't know what that was, but that's forever drained.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yeah, but you know what, there's so much of that
that will never be replenished because of the memories that
we have. I know, with myself, I have so many
memories of being with you all that are the best
thing that I've done. And it's worne with you guys,
and I'm so honored that I got to do that
(31:46):
and to play with you guys, and to just be
a part of something that was huge. Going into it,
I don't think we realized what an effect it would have,
not necessarily on people, but the effect that had on
me myself. And and to just reiterate that, you know,
(32:07):
life is precious and the moments we have with each
other is a gift. And I love every single moment
I've had with you.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Guys, right back at you, and I want it again.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Let's do this hell yeah, run it back, I know.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Right, find something for all of us to work and
together we'll do the Hedonism part two.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Cord dot Cord and and we'll just create a Yeah, Oh.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
My god, crazy. I I'd sign anything to work with
you guys again, any of.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Us would, Yeah, decided the dotted line. Well, it was
so good to see you. We just asked you to
come on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
As an excuse so we can see you again and
talk to you, and let's tell you.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
How good you are.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
What do I owe you, guys?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Don't worry, I'll later.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, give me your venmo perfect.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
We love you so so much and we're so grateful
to know you.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
And I hope you.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I love you too, likewise, love you.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Give those babies a chisten. I will, I will.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
They're the cutest screaming right now. Thanks for coming back
on any day of the week for you too. Great.
We'll take you.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I'll talk to you in five minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Okay. I love you, I love you, I love you.
Bye bye bye.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
She's a true heaven, said Angel. It's all I have
to say.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
We just wanted to sing her praises for a while,
and I haven't, said angel, haven't, said Angel? She answered,
We had, you know, all these questions for her, and
she answered them all immediately on her own.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
We just let her talk.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, because not an easy thing to play and what
a like a historic episode for several reasons, and she
was at the center of it. So thank you, Dot.
We love you, just like Glee would not be the
same without her.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
It wouldn't when and we love Coach Beast all the
love for Coach Weast and forgot. We hope you enjoyed
this episode.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
And that's what you really missed. Thanks for listening and
follow us on Instagram at and That's what you really
miss pod. Make sure to write us a review and
leave us five stars. See you next time.
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's what you Really miss podcast. Returning customer.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh yeah, and it's a good one because an icon.
She has a big old episode and we want to
talk to her all about it and getting into it
the episode of transitioning and our guest is dot Marie Jones.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
And we may or may not make her cry several times.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
She needs no introduction and enjoy the episode.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Done. What is going on?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You look great?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Honey? Sixty one's been good?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You look so look better than ever? Crazy baby?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Come on, you're not paying me enough.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We're not bang you at all. Wait, I am paying you?
Oh god?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I'm doing good. I'm doing good, trying to stay busy,
you know, same?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, same different day a man.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
You guys look fantastic. Why you got to grow up
on me?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I know what are you talking about? I still look
twenty three? Right, Kevin?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
You still look eighteen?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Oh? Thank you so much?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
And you too?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh thanks Scott.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Mom.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I know it's crazy, I know I feel old. Ohney,
just wait, how are your niece doing.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Well? I have them both replaced now, so so you
have a little trouble with the one that will be
two years old in September. It's just I don't know it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Happy birthday to your knees, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I hope it shapes up.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, yeah, we're.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Done for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Well, it's good to see you. Thank you so much
for coming back on again. We're almost to the end
of the series.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Can you believe it?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
That's crazy, I know we are. And then are you
going to do the aftermath exactly?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That that will take years?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
That's hello, after hours, Yeah, after hours and cocktails, that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Then we go back and then tell you know what
really happened underneath.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, that's what you really really missed, yeah, or what.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You didn't miss, right, to be thankful you didn't know this?
That right?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
No, no, god, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Okay, so we're on to your episode transitioning, uh huh,
and we just want to hear about your experience and
when did you all the questions so like, did Ryan
call you and tell you this was happening? Do you
(03:25):
remember like when you found out?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Okay, you want to know how I found out? I
found out? Well, I didn't know what because you know,
I never told us anything. And he at the hundred
remember the hundredth episode party. Yeah, I went up to
him and he says, Dot Marie, I have big plans
for your character in season six. And my response was, well,
(03:52):
better be a series regular?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What good God, good god?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
And I'm I. He goes, is that what you want?
I said, this is going on to my fifth season
being on the show as a guest star. Of course,
that's all I've ever wanted. Right then, that's what we'll do.
But you know, you never know what's going to happen.
And then they did it, and then I didn't know.
I honestly didn't know what his big plans were for
(04:21):
a Beast until I got that first script.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Wowowow.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I was kind of disappointed because i'd Beast had always
been like the big girl's advocate in a sense where
it doesn't matter how big you are, how strong you are,
you don't know what he's going through at home, because
I'm going back to like the domestic.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, it's really really powerful with couters, and.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I was like, I didn't want to let anybody down.
And my thing is is I always want to do
whatever character I'm doing I want to do it justice,
and I want to do it right, and I want
to do everything in my power to make it authentic.
I guess is a good word.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
And one of the things I had done is at
the same time y'all were doing this the pilot for Glee,
I did Ryan's pilot pretty handsome.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yep, that's right, which you were incredible and by the.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Way, baby, you're sweet. I played a trans character or
a trans f to m and Alexandria Billings played my
wife and who is a real life into f trans woman,
and I could not love her more because I said, again,
(05:42):
going all the way back to what was at nine
two thousand and nine or something, Yeah, I wanted to
do it justice, and I said, I am going to
ask you every question possible and oh my god, yeah,
and anybody that I knew, I loved her anyway. She
was so incredible and I asked her so many questions
(06:03):
because again, I never want to disrespect anybody I'm portraying.
And so that fast forward to season six of Glee.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Okay, this is happening, and I want to be authentic
and I want to do it. I want to do
Beasts or Shannon going to Sheldon Justice. And I don't
think I've ever been so emotional doing something in my life.
And I you know, I cry opening an envelope.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's true, it's true. You know it's true, and it's beautiful.
I don't know if I know anybody else who is.
Their emotions are just right there. You get one hundred
percent of you all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You cry right now. But as far as like doing
the transitioning episode and with Alex, who I just love
Alex know who I love so much and they're so
incredible and it made it so fun. But I was
so emotional because I know, I don't know if a
(07:18):
lot of people knew. I mean, I'm sure you kids knew,
but there was a what was it, two hundred person choir.
Every single one of them was trans and the biggest
thing that I got was and they would come up
to me and they said, I never see you guys,
(07:40):
damn it. They'd say I never thought i'd see myself
on TV. But they didn't mean themselves personally. They someone
to portray this and to represent yeah, exactly. And I
can't even tell you. I cried the whole way home
the day we should that, and and it was it
(08:06):
was overwhelming, and I again, I was just glad, and
they thanked me. They thanked me for doing that, and
I'm like, no, that was one thing I love about Ryan,
Ian and and and and Brad is they wanted to
represent everybody. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, And I
(08:28):
mean I I just it was so emotionally charged and
the whole the whole thing leading up to that, and
and and doing some of those scenes that were just
you know, Jane's character, Jane Lynch. I mean, it was.
(08:48):
It was incredible to do a lot of the scenes
like when I first tell her what's going on and
stuff and yes, and her being her being the heart crushing,
brutal just saying whatever her character would just say whatever
came to mind.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And it was like, oh my god, yeah, usually inappropriate.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
H yeah, I mean obviously not her, but her character.
And it was it was overwhelming. And this response was mixed,
to be honest, what I got from people and fans
after that is like people were let down, and I'm like,
got it. I don't write it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But the overall response was incredible and appreciative, and you
know you don't think of that, and I, like, I say,
I never want to disrespect anybody and portraying, and one
thing is I'll never do something that disrespects women or
(09:54):
puts women down. And I mean I've turned down jobs
that were just stupid. So the way I see it,
I was looking for a job when I got that one,
and you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, so but
it was it was awesome. It was awesome, and I
(10:16):
mean I was in my fifties and it was educational.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah yeah, I mean it was educational for us, and
it was educational I'm sure for the people who are
watching at home. It always means so much more where
you see it, you know, you taking it seriously of like, Okay,
I have to do this, this is my job, this
is what I signed up for. And then like, you know,
just to sort of echo what you were saying, we
(10:41):
don't necessarily you can't necessarily feel that millions of people
are going to see this, right, And so whether it's
a trans person who finally gets to see themselves on TV,
or maybe it's a transperson's family who is it's helping
them accept their child or you know, their loved one
(11:01):
or their friend and you just never ever know. And
that never got old on this show because we all
got to like play in that world and it was
just so meaningful.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, and it's it is so meaningful. And I always said,
there are so many lessons in every single episode of
that show, regardless of who somebody identifies with. I mean,
I had women back going back to the abuse one
with Kuter and the domestic abuse with my husband, and
(11:34):
I had actually women and men saying that that show
helped give them strength to get out of a relationship.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Wow, And here it's like we're doing this show that
never I always say, be careful, how with words, because
you never know how they're going to affect somebody. So
be authentic, be be mindful, right because there's no do overs.
(12:04):
When you say something and it's out there and it's
like it was overwhelming. And then cut to you know five,
I was you know, that was season two, and then
cut to season six and it was the being represented
and it was, oh my god, you guys, it was
so emotional and it was so and like in the
(12:28):
scene where we're all singing it, I was really crying.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, you talked about being authentic and yeah, once you
say it, it's out there. There's not a better person
to have had this role on the show. Like we
(12:54):
started this interview by saying that your emotions and your
authenticity are right on the surface. And whether it's season two, three, four, five,
or six, whatever you had, whether it was comedy or
whether it was drama, you are so connected and authentic.
(13:14):
You bring your you know, people are actors out there.
You know there's like bring yourself to the character, but
you would bring your vulnerability, your openness to learning about it.
You can see that and every single scene you're in
because you had some really heavy stuff, Yeah, some really
complicated things. Then that is a tightrope and the way
(13:36):
like watching you execute that, it's masterful and come on,
it's true. I just watched Transitioning right before this, and like,
you know, the episode a couple episodes prior to that
where it starts to happen like in Sue pops up
and defends you. And that was also really nice personally
(14:01):
because you and Jane are like two of the kindest
people on the planet, and that was very much. Oh,
this is a dot in Jane moment for me. I'm
like I'm glad. You know, everyone knows Sue and she's
a hard ass and she's a little cuckoo. And I
was like, uh, seeing like that's Jane's you know, authentic
(14:21):
self coming through would mean like, I'm gonna protect you
no matter what. And then to see her, you know,
do that through this episode as well. But let's talk
about that musical number four second, because I remember being there,
and I don't even think I remember. I don't think
I was aware of the significance of having three hundred
(14:43):
trans people on national television. When has that ever happened?
And it probably has not ever happened since? Ye, right,
And you had people like Sasha Colby, who's world famous
drag queen. You have Ts Madison, who is an icon.
You had and people you know who have become very
famous and mono on their own right singing their hearts
(15:06):
out and you were crying. So many people were crying
and smiling and the joy Oh my god, well just say, oh,
I mean that vocal If that didn't make you cry
to it And I was like, I don't know that.
You know that vocal is dumb good?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So good? Yeah, tell us someone. It was like for
that day. I know you said it was emotional, but
well it was.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
It was incredible, and it was like, and I'm looking around,
and I think part of what made me a part
of it made me cry so much is that when
I was looking around, you could just see how proud
every single person was who was there singing, and they
were singing their hearts out. And and Alex God, he
(15:52):
could sing the phone book and it would sound beautiful,
and it was just it was so it was an
incredible and I was so proud to be a part
of something like that, you know, because I mean so
many times it's like that, you know, we did so
many silly things and that was a blast to go
to work or go to recess as I call it.
(16:14):
But I was so proud. I mean, there's so many
episodes on that show that I was so incredibly proud
to be a part of. I mean, let alone, getting
to hang with you little brats every day that I
was there was the best. And so many laughs there
was it was like talk about the spectrum. So many laughs,
(16:35):
so many heartbreaks, so many tears. Yeah, so many accolades
that we were I mean, just being a party.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That show was spoiled yeah, yes, I mean, you know
I thought was really funny, was you know, I love
you and Chord together, love you and Chord together. And
this season it's been wonderful having him as the assistant coach.
H But I just think back to that first week
(17:04):
when you and Kord were both on the show for
the first time, and you and I were looking at
each other like, who is this clown.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
And Carrie Beaucy imitation. Yes, I still send him means
of him.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
And you and I like bonded over being like this puppy.
Oh god, and you have you have these beautiful scenes together,
and I was just like, ah, this is so wonderful
for so many different reasons of like seeing everybody's growth
and like your family succeeding in this way.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yes, right exactly, and it's like, you know, it was
a gift beyond Oh my god, it was so much fun.
And Cord is just such a little puppy. Did I
ever tell you guys about the silly movie I did
with Cord?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
No, okay. First of all, my agent called I was
in I was in Atlanta doing the Resident the Hospital show,
and I was going to fly back the next day
to LA and Brittany, my manager, agent, calls me and says, hey,
(18:19):
there's this movie that they want to offer you this
role and blah blah blah. And I'm like, wait what
and they said, well, it's his character. She's a therapist.
And I said, wait to say it, and she said
somebody had referred me. I said, wait who referred me?
(18:40):
And she goes court over street and I said, I'll
do it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Shut up.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I don't even need to read the script. I'll do it. Yes.
So then I go. I'm talking to Bridget, my wife
on my way home, and I know, you guys know
Bridges my wife, but yeah, got to keep the kids
up to date for fourteen years whatever. So I'm on
(19:08):
my way back to LA and I'm telling Bridge I said,
I think I'm going to do this thing with Cord
And then Brittany calls me back and says, oh, it's
shooting in Jamaica. And I'm like what, And so I'm like, hell, yeah,
I'll go. So I'm like, I go back to La.
I had to turn around and leave the next day and.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
For just like, oh my god, where are you?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Where are you going? What do you say? Where you're staying?
I mean I'm old, it's Jerusalem, but I'm a little
naive on some things. But she, I said, someplace called
he he didn't heat. She goes headn Isn't, which is
a swingers resort stop in Jamaica. And I'm like, I said,
(19:57):
well she goes, you don't know. She had watched some
documentary on this place. So we went. I went the
next day, flew back there and I spent four days
in Hedonism and we actually stayed on location. I learned
a whole lot some people need to know just because
(20:21):
you can doesn't mean you should. And there is this
guy we called ball cap because that's all he wore
for the three days that we were there. They're just
walking around because that's there they're going. But it was
a blast and it was oh my god. And Court
is so cute and so funny. And Carolyn Carolyn Hennessy
(20:46):
with Carolyn Hennessy was there and uh E Bell, who
I hadn't seen. I did a bunch of married with
children like in ninety four ninety five. He was one
of them. No man, he was there and I'm like, Okay,
it was a blast and we were so and so.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Glad it worked out do you know.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
The look like they do in these pictures.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Oh honey, nobody on the grocure was there? Nobody? It was,
it was, It was so crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I would like to see a reality show with dot
doing like a road.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Like we read a show about Cordon Dott.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, exactly, what play like my my son?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know the swing of things.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
The swing of things.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
There you go, wait, this is so funny. I'm gonna
have to go figure it.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
And that's the young girl who played his girlfriend on
there there.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Oh, let me a cold though.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
She's the most sweetest.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Oh, it's all so honey. Well, what a time, what
a time.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
It was funny, it was.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That is really funny.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
And I play a sex therapist and that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Got it, got it, got it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Oh my gosh, you would be a great sex therapist.
Well we can do you good.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
You're good at everything.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
That's what I mean. I believe it like you non judgmental, honey.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
We could talk about anything exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
We have, yes, whether you wanted to hear about it
or not.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
That's very true, that is very true.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
We didn't give you a lot of choice, and.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I wouldn't change one thing.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Kevin Good.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Since we are coming to the end of the series
and we have you here on the show.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
And even that, like Beasts had done so many important
things on the show as well as like really great
comedicy things. I'm just curious, like your feelings of your
legacy of Coach Beast on the show. What stands out
to you or what do you hope that your legacy
(23:18):
left for people who are now watching.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
One thing I think, and I think because of me
and my size and stuff, is don't ever pigeonholed somebody.
You can't judge people by how they look, because, like
you said, like I said, you never know what anybody's
going through at home. And my character was such a
(23:42):
gift for me because it was so many different things
that I'd never played before. I mean, I of course
I played the biker chick, the prison guard, the dyke,
the barfighter, the bartender, everything, which I am so grateful for.
And you get to do this to where I mean,
I've played a lot of coaches, I mean, going back
(24:03):
to Lizzie McGuire first season, Hello, Forget and just I
mean the heart wrenching and seriousness of so many episodes,
and like for me, I never knew what was coming,
and I'm sure you kids didn't either. We never knew
what was coming until we got the script for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, I never.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
In my life dreamed that I would get to sing
a solo on that show, let alone when I got
to sing backup. I think one of the funnest backups
I ever did was with Jane for Jama's wedding Marmie
will Oh, We're so silly and had so much fun.
(24:48):
But then when I got the script saying that I
was going to sing Jolene, and I'm like, wait, I
had already done one Bourbon, one Scotch, one beer, George
thorowgood with mat. I got it and I'm looking through
it and I'm like, nobody's singing this with me?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, And I was.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I don't proclaim to be a singer. I mean, when
I ran into Brad at the grocery store, I said
I want to be on the show. I love it
because I'd been watching for a season. And he's like,
can you sing? And I'm like, oh, I'm no Mariah Carey,
but I kind of carry a tune and he laughed.
And then four months later they were writing me something right,
So it was such a gift. There were so many
(25:32):
gifts on that show with so much heartache, and you
can know on that show it was it was a
roller coaster to best you know, describe it. I mean
every single year was something.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Right, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah, it was a blessing. It was a blessing to
be a part of that and to have now a
chosen family that I love so much and you kids
will forever be my family.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Oh forever. And we were so lucky to have you
join in season two in the middle of all that
world wind whirlwind and having you're always so grounded. You
keep everybody's ass in line, not in the tough way
that your characters may may do, but you you are
(26:28):
that that sweet side and checking in with everybody and
a constant source of support and you know, emotional rawness
that is aspirational and was a lesson. You know, you
were teaching all of us just by being you. And
so we have what a gift.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
As we all know, there's too much fake out there.
I'm too hazy to retired to be doing that.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, it always made me giggle when you would do
like the tough coach beast like on the field yelling
because I'm like, that's so dot, but I love it
and it makes me like like, oh.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
That's fun.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
You're just so gentle and so pure.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, I'm like it also scenes when you're like talking
and then you start yelling at the football players in
the middle of it, and I get the giggles.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Yes, exactly, Like I can't even get scared because I'm
just like, oh, that's so funny, cute.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
I loved working on Choke with You, which was like
your big episode with Cooder, because you know, it's the
culmination of like it just was so beautiful to see it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
We don't get to work together. We didn't get to
work together.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
All that much, you know what I mean, Like we
pop in and out of scenes together, but just to
be able to like sing.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
To you and watch you work and.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Out shake it off.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah. I still when.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I hear that song on the radio because all I
can see is you girls singing it. Yeah, one of the.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Mm hmmm, yeah beautiful.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, that was an emotional one for all of us.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
I think singing to you, Yeah, to see that come
to life and it's just so nice. Yeah, it was
like nice to work with somebody who, like Kevin said,
when the adults, like when you and Jane came in,
you're like you.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Sit up a little taller.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
You're like, just just worked like a professional today, Jennal,
just work, you know, and but yet like a safe place,
like it still was safe, Like we felt safe with
all of our like you know, adult compadres, because like
it just was you guys were so wonderful and protective
of us and warm, and.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You had been through a lot of this in a
maybe not this exact way.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Obviously, but like been through it. So like even Michaelmalley
and row Me and just the one the wonderful humans
we had like leading the way for us who had
paved the way you know, and has worked and been
around so for so long before us to give us
the advice they gave us, and for you guys, and.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
It just was like so important to have that.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I'm not going to stay older because it's not older, but.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
You guys were just like that those leaders, yeah, experienced
leaders for us who had been like seen it all.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
We didn't know what the hell was going on, you know,
you know, I was. It reminds me of I remember
one of your first episode I think it was. And
I'm in the locker room with the boys and you're
yelling at all of us, and I just remember how
(29:41):
I didn't know you that well yet, and I was
so terrified You're yelling at me in my face. I
was like, Oh, she's good. Oh this is really And
then you know, cut like a few days later and
we're just like kicking out and giggling and talking on
the football field. I'm like, oh, never mind, she's just
a really good actor.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well that's questionable, no all.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I think. I think the fans, you know, you you
survivors of domestic abuse, the trans fans of the show
are on good hands with you representing those storylines and beautifully.
I'm glad I was part of a show that you
(30:28):
were on and that you got to show your abilities
and your care and your skill.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Oh sweetheart, beast is beloved.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Oh yeah, you guys are amazing. And I got to
say on the return of that, it was a gift
to sit in the audience and watch you kids bust
your ass on those eighteen hour days while you were
doing this stuff on stage, whether it was the song
doing it five times were over and then just going
(31:03):
from that to the scenes that we had and I'm
still tired.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Right too.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
There's a there's a usefulness that we'll never get back, right, Yeah,
I don't know what that was, but that's forever drained.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yeah, but you know what, there's so much of that
that will never be replenished because of the memories that
we have. I know, with myself, I have so many
memories of being with you all that are the best
thing that I've done. And it's worne with you guys,
and I'm so honored that I got to do that
(31:46):
and to play with you guys, and to just be
a part of something that was huge. Going into it,
I don't think we realized what an effect it would have,
not necessarily on people, but the effect that had on
me myself. And and to just reiterate that, you know,
(32:07):
life is precious and the moments we have with each
other is a gift. And I love every single moment
I've had with you.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Guys, right back at you, and I want it again.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Let's do this hell yeah, run it back, I know.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Right, find something for all of us to work and
together we'll do the Hedonism part two.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Cord dot Cord and and we'll just create a Yeah, Oh.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
My god, crazy. I I'd sign anything to work with
you guys again, any of.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Us would, Yeah, decided the dotted line. Well, it was
so good to see you. We just asked you to
come on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
As an excuse so we can see you again and
talk to you, and let's tell you.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
How good you are.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
What do I owe you, guys?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Don't worry, I'll later.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, give me your venmo perfect.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
We love you so so much and we're so grateful
to know you.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
And I hope you.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I love you too, likewise, love you.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Give those babies a chisten. I will, I will.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
They're the cutest screaming right now. Thanks for coming back
on any day of the week for you too. Great.
We'll take you.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I'll talk to you in five minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Okay. I love you, I love you, I love you.
Bye bye bye.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
She's a true heaven, said Angel. It's all I have
to say.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
We just wanted to sing her praises for a while,
and I haven't, said angel, haven't, said Angel? She answered,
We had, you know, all these questions for her, and
she answered them all immediately on her own.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
We just let her talk.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, because not an easy thing to play and what
a like a historic episode for several reasons, and she
was at the center of it. So thank you, Dot.
We love you, just like Glee would not be the
same without her.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
It wouldn't when and we love Coach Beast all the
love for Coach Weast and forgot. We hope you enjoyed
this episode.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
And that's what you really missed. Thanks for listening and
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