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June 30, 2025 19 mins

Happy 4th of July! 

Let the sparks fly! Jenna and Kevin are back with a fun-sized episode, chatting about their plans for the fourth! Kevin has a date with Beyoncé, and for Jenna, if the sun's out, the buns are out … hamburger buns that is! Plus, they talk about getting close to the end of their recaps and what that means to them. May the fourth be with you! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Welcome to and That's what you really miss podcast. Happy
fourth of July. Everyone, Ho ho ho Mary Independence Hey,
oh my goodness. Okay, well we are here, you.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Know, one of these little special holiday episodes because there's
no new episodes because everyone takes off this week.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
So yeah, we are here, we are. It's we're actually
pre recording this episode.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Because we also take off on fourth of July.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Actually, Jenna, do you want to know my fourth of
July plans?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
What's your fourth July plans?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Okay? So I finish, I will have finished doing the
show in London, okay, on June twenty eighth, okay, and
then I go to Italy for a couple of days.
But then I go back to the US and I

(01:10):
go to DC. And on July fourth, I see Beyonce
on DC. Oh and all about America.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
What better way?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Mm hmm. And for those people on the internet who
do not understand what she is saying, because she's singing
the national anthem at the beginning of her show, and
they're like, this is such a bad read on the
state of America. It's like your critical thinking skills are
not intense because it's a critique on America. And I'm

(01:49):
very excited to see it in DC on July fourth. Wow,
So that's where I will be.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
My goodness, I I am so jealous of that moment
for you. Well, I'm jealous of that moment for me,
and I'm so excited for that moment for you.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Is what I meant to get, Jenna.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I can't be doing that. Wow, Kevin, Wow, that is special. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I thought that I didn't care if I went on
July fourth, but now I do.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Know that, Like I needed what a way to to celebrate?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
And that's my entry back into the US.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
You know what, welcome back?

Speaker 4 (02:41):
And there's the specific only ways to be serenaded by
Beyonce in Washington, DC.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
That was because Beyonce was in London for six nights
and I didn't get to see her once.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
So oh, because you were doing your show. Yeah, how
is your show? By the way, how is it going great?
You're in London?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
How is it so much fun? I have fully gotten
the bug, the theater bug.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I like it. I have lots of questions to ask
you about how people do this. I guess I can
ask you, now, how do you keep it exciting? I'm
not bored of it, but I could see how if
you do it for long periods of time that it
would get sort of monotonous. I would feel just like
a job. And maybe it's maybe it is. Maybe you
do have to sort of frame it like that, but.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
It does sometimes it's some some some days it is.
You know what I mean, you're the here I am.
I'm just gonna I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give
it what I can, and that's it. That's just like
part of it, I think. But we were talking about that.
I think you and I were texting like a couple
of weeks ago, and you're like, you know when you
had first started, and you were like, you know, I

(03:49):
had a no K show, but then I had I
had a really good show, and then I had an
OK show. And I was like, it's like buying a
house where there's always a list of things that you
could be doing. You want to like fix the house,
you want to work on the house. There's a laundry list,
and once you completed that list, there's still more things
that have to be fixed. So that's the way I

(04:10):
think about it. It's like I constantly find like just
one thing that I want to accomplish in that show,
whether it's like getting the story arc better, taking one
moment and getting that moment down, you know, picking away
all these little things like searching for perfection but knowing
you're never going to attain that right. And also it's

(04:31):
just like finding like new moments for yourself, like with characters,
and like you're constantly like just building and building on
these like fun things that you're doing. I that's how
I kind of look at it. And I'm always like
I am always searching for perfection, and I find that
like that keeps me motivated.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, you know, I feel like in this context because
it's the show is really comedic and when I'm my
character is a full clown, that for me, it's always
figuring out like how to get the joke right. Because
audiences also, I've discovered and let me know, I know

(05:11):
you've gotten off track here. This is not fourth of July,
but get it like the audiences. And I've never noticed
this necessarily by being in an audience, but being on
the other side of it, I've now noticed that it's
like there's this unspoken contract amongst the audience where if
certain like allowances aren't agreed upon or like certain let's say,

(05:38):
certain jokes, right, if they don't get a huge response
from the beginning, then that line of jokes is never
going to work the rest of the show. And vice versa,
where all of a sudden they love this one thing
and it's like that really works, and it's like it
may work for individuals, but because like in mass people
didn't get behind it.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, and it's really interesting to see how that changes
from show to show. It changes every single show. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
there's a couple jokes not of mine necessarily, but like
in the show that always work and some that like
only work sometimes. And it's I think it's and I'm
not like I'm indifferent towards it. I just think it's
really interesting, really interesting. Yes, Yeah, So I'm enjoying that

(06:25):
part of it because it sort of feels like a
math problem that I'm like, oh, why is that It's
a study on human psychology?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. I think it also depends
on the context of the show and the kinds of
jokes you're telling and the kind of audience you have
and where you're telling what day of the week it is, yeah,
or what's happening in the world, or like you know, yeah,
what have you learned so far.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
About doing this?

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Because you shared with me that your show, this is
the longest show running, this is your longest run in
a show, a live theater show.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yes, it's only six weeks. I know people who do
theater you roll your eyes at that. But for me,
this is a good little test. Yeah, I have learned.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
That.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I think I've learned something about like the perfectionist mentality
a bit. I do have it in some ways, like
where I was texting, like I don't like to make mistakes, right,
But in times where like I got laryngitis and lost
my voice and still went on yeh with like hardly
any voice, I felt really guilty for the audience. It's

(07:43):
not like it's a huge singing show for me, right,
So it's fine, I can't sort of speak sing those
songs and I'm not necessarily losing that much. But also
like I did it and our half of the company
was sick all at the same time, what are you
going to do? And watching people get through that and
how calm everybody was made me feel more confident in

(08:06):
my ability to like, oh, if things go wrong, there
are still ways to get through it, and it's not
the end of the world. It's completely fine, yep.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
And it becomes like you're every day in a way,
you know.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, And that I think that just comes from experience.
I have very little to no experience doing this, right,
So it's like the more familiar you are with the
uncomfortable situations, then the more comfortable you become with them.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, it's not all going to
be perfect. It's like, especially in a show like yours,
where you don't have a but ton of but ton
about ton of I understudy a long time. Yeah, of
like understudies and covers and people that like are there
for that reason, you know, because it's such a limited
man for you guys that like, you know, normally you

(08:54):
cut and you know, obviously you don't want to disappoint
audiences are there for you guys, but like, also you
got to do it.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I gotta do also for the bigger sake of the show.
That's why exactly understudies are there. But yeah, I think
that's I think that's right.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
So Kevin back to Glee. Yeah, we are almost there.
Next episode we have no uh more episodes this week?

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Do you do the holiday here in the States? Obviously?

Speaker 4 (09:29):
But next week we're on episode ten of thirteen. We're
wrapping up the whole rewatch, isn't How do you feel
it is wild?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I feel like I'm excited to get to the end, Yeah,
like as a just to complete it.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, I'm also excited to I'm excited to wrap it
all up, to like reflect, to like, look at all
we did then look at what we just did now
being able to like, I feel like it has given
us so much positivity and how we view the show

(10:17):
and view the fans, not that we had negative feelings,
but like such clarity I think, to things that we
didn't necessarily have before. Yeah, and I'm excited to see
how that feels, even though we only have four left.
But I feel like it will be a journey some
sort of emotional feeling.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Oh yeah, I definitely think it's a journey to see
like the last few.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
How are you feeling about it?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's crazy, It's really weird.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
I think, like I feel like a sense of accomplishment
that we made it all the way to the end
like that exactly sane, Like it's a lot of episodes
that we did we were all there for, and then
we did again and we really you know, there's like
there was such so much reflection on it, and you're right,

(11:08):
it feels clear now like having gone back and seen
it in this light and been able to watch it
from this lens with so much time and space from
the show, from the last time we did this, and
we're a part of the show, and.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I really it's like bittersweet. I'm excited to get to
the end.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
I'm so excited for two thousand and nine, Like I
can't wait to watch those episodes. I know they're going
to be special and then but also I'm like, oh,
I don't want it to end. But also like, yeah,
it's nice for it to be like we're at that,
we're done, we're at the end of it. And it's

(11:51):
just been really.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, I think clarity is the word.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
It's been really nice to like talk to people and
really get the whole big picture of the experience from
crew and casts and friends and you know, all the people.
So I'm it's pitty sweet for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's exciting though, and I'm excited to see like what
we do after because I feel like we've built such
a great yeah like space here with everyone and like
everyone's so communicative and we hope everybody sticks around.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, and we have we have some stuff plans, We
got some stuff. So what are you so now you're
you're going to see Beyonce?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
What what kind of food is important to you to
have on foard of the July? Like does that matter
at this point? Is it all Beyonce? Because I feel
like I'm definitely going to We usually go to my
best friend my other best friend's house, Cheater, and we
do like a Fourth of.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
July party and we go swimming and all that stuff.
To know Beyonce, But.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
You you can lay down, you know, I gotta have
a burger or a hot dog.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Gotta have a dog. I gotta have a dog. You
gotta have a dog, which I can get at Beyonce.
I think I feel like.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Maybe we've talked about this on the podcast before, maybe
at our fourth Joy episode, But did I ever tell
you that we used to My dad used to make
hot dogs and you would slip the middle and you'd
put Kraft singles in the middle. Of it and then
cook it so it was like a cheese dog inside.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
No, but that's a great idea. I'm also craving macaroni salad.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Oh yeah, a solid macaroni salad. I think I'm gonna
have to make that this year. Oh that sounds so good.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
No, are you macaroni salad over a potato salad? Are
you both?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
I like both, but if I can only choose one,
it's probably gonna be macaroni salad.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
I do like both though, Yeah, me too?

Speaker 1 (13:52):
And do you like?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
What do you like on your hot dog? I'm pretty simple,
but I guess mustard. I usually do both, me too,
and relish. I would do dice scrut sakup h like

(14:13):
at the Dodger game they have the diced onion things.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, Dodgers. Uh.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
My dad also used to make growing up on the
barbecue black and chicken. Oh yeah, I love a chicken
with a burger like a you know, like a baked bean.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Mmm, you can't have fourth without a big bean.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, you need a baked bean, or like a.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Corn on the cop What kind of burger button are
you asking for? I'm going for like a Hawaiian Roll.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, I want regular.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Do you like sess me seeds some tops?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Give me.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
I just want the old staple, I got it. I
got no funny business.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah yeah, I want a Hawaiian Roll. That's what I'm
so hungry.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I'm starving.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Do you have to have French fries for the July
or no? No? Do you no? But if I did,
it would be crinkle cut.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I feel like it would be chips, more ruffles or
las than.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah yeah, okay, I don't know why. Yeah, and like
a diet coke.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah yeah, I feel that I would actually put.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
That mellow cup and little too much oh chips on
your burger for I can literally hear you eating that burger.
I know exactly what you look like eating that.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Burger on the Hawaiian Roll. It's a squishy man.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, I mean that's a delicious like I'm not knocking
the Hawaiian Roll classic.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, I see what you're doing. Yeah. Do you like
pickles on your burger?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Give me the crunch, just give me in and out.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
So last fourth of July, and I think we'll do
it again this year is we will go And there's
a neighborhood Fourth of July Parade and you walk in it,
so it's like a couple of blocks. But then at
the end there's like a fire truck that they you
land at and the kids can go on the fire truck.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
And so we usually do that.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
And we have little flags and we walk around and
then we'll go to In and Out and we'll get
an in and out burger for launch. Then the kids
will go nap and then we'll come over and we'll
go swimming, and we'll do like a barbecue like later
in the day.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Oh so double the burger, double the fun, yeah, or.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
The in and out and then we do like some
other stuff for dinner, but still in the vein of
you know, barbecue.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I need to get macaroni's out in my mouth right now.
I feel like in London they don't have good macaris now.
It's they don't do it like that, it doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Helman's schlop. Yeah, what song would have done.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
For a Fourth July episode? Born in the USA? Yeah,
like we did Firework Born in the USA, Party in
the USA. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I do love. When I lived in New York, we
also did.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
We would go and we'd stay like to one of
our friend's houses who has an apartment like overlooking the
river and Macy's would do like the big parade and
do like the fireworks over the Hudson and so you
could like watch them from your window in New York
City because like obviously New York City is different.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
You like don't have pools all the time.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
So I really like doing that because then you get
like a front row seat to the fireworks in New York.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I'm wondering if I'm going to miss the fireworks this
year because I'll be a Beyonce. Probably that's the only
firework I need. Literally, you know that she is a firework.
I have one more question for you. Yeah, which Greek
character would have insisted on singing the national anthem at
a town event in Lima?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Rachel?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Rachel?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Now, if it weren't Rachel, who would be the next
person to do it?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
To like request it, Yeah, to do it.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
I feel like Brittany would have done it and totally
richard it, but like tried, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, she feels like she's very patriotic.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, or she would like think it was
like the wrong holiday and show up and like yeah,
dressed like Saint Patrick's Day or something.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Okay, cool, Well, we're wishing.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Everybody a very happy and safe July fourth. Obviously we've
said there are no new episodes this week, so enjoy
the holiday off and we're back next week with episode ten,
The Rise and Fall of Sue Sylvester.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Happy for the July, Happy before the July. That's what
you really missed. Thanks for listening, and follow us on
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