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December 31, 2025 15 mins

Jenna and Kevin are ending the year on a high note! They share what they are grateful for, the musicals they are super excited to explore for the pod, book recommendations, favorite TV shows of the year, and New Year’s resolutions! Plus, the scoop on Jenna’s brand new upcoming podcast!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Welcome to and That's what you really miss podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Happy New Year everyone, Happy new year, Jenna. Thank you
so much for an incredible twenty twenty five. It was
a year of change, a year of transition for us.
But we are so grateful for everybody here. You guys
are the.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Best listeners and the best fans, and we can't believe
you're still here with us.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
So we're so grateful that you come back with us
every week.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Brave of you. We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Wow. Wow, Yeah, happy.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
This has been so much fun. I'm glad to like
have a full year of doing this.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean it is.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
There's it's been crazy, like finishing Lee, did you ever
think you're going.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
To finish the whole thing?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
No?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
And I also, I honestly felt like we did it
so quickly.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
It was really fast. I went really really fast, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Because those shorter seasons at the end two really good.
I crept up and then you're just like WHOA. But
it's been really exciting to like do these new do
this new format, and do all these new musical TV shows.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
And movies.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm and get to interview so many new fun people
that we never thought we'd have a chance to talk
to about these things.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
You know, Hairsbury really surprised me, like coming out the
gate real strong. You know, hairsprayce great. What musicals are
you looking for? Do recapping?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh my god, even the ones I like historically have
not enjoyed. I'm just excited to like watch everything with
like new eyes, a new appreciation. I want to see
all that jazz I've never seen it. Oh yeah, I
really want to watch that. But like some of the classics,
I have not watched many.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, I am not either. We have we have some
to get through, and we have some like not classics,
but oldies that like we haven't done yet, Like keep
talking about the newsies. We have to do our like
Quintessential Chicago at some point that's going to be a
big one. Yeah. I'm also excited to do some more

(02:14):
of these musical TV shows, like also the ones that
are not naturally musicals but have done musical episodes.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yes, very interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Like the Flash musical.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah exactly, That's what I was thinking about.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Did you have any good things that you discovered this
past year in terms of media, Like, I know you
read a lot. I don't read a lot, So what
what did you discover this past year?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Look, I had a slower reading year, but you were working.
But I read Stoner, which is like a classic by
John Williams that some people have recommended. I liked it.
It's very viby. Not a lot happens, It's sort of sad.
The Ministry of Time was really fun. It was not

(03:04):
exactly what I thought it would be. It's a light,
easy read. It's sort of like a good vacation read.
Love That Love That Martyr was also really really interesting.
I don't want to give away any of the plata,
but I actually it was a very, very very solid
reading here. I liked everything I read. I read The

(03:27):
Safe Keep, which was also wonderfully written. So a lot.
I mean, let's see TV. I watched a lot of TV.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, yeah, you watched more than I did.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
But we watched a lot of TV this year.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think a lot of Look, I'm not saying you
should watch heated Rivalry. I don't know if watching gay
boys have lots of sex as your thing.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
But particularly but I always try something for one yet
try it out. I will say we just finished the
Beast in me. Oh happy race and clar Dings very good.
The tone is a little funny, It's like a tiny
bit soapy, but like I stood, the writing was very good.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I really enjoyed that.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I also was very I got back into true crime
just a little bit, like it dipped my toe back
in a little bit.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
And the trial of Karen Reid. I watched the.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Series on it and then her actual like a pellet
trial or whatever it came. The verdict was coming out
the day I finished it, and it was like I
was like, what timing? So it was really great. I
really enjoyed that. What else did I see?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
What else?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I watched? The Diplomat, the Sea was great, Slow Horses
was great.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Oh I I watched Severance for the first time this year. Oh,
very interesting Severance very Yes, loved it.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Did you prefer season one or two?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Definitely one, But I enjoyed too.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I feel like I've heightened anything was possible my obsession
with Formula one. I just I didn't. I didn't miss
a single race.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I watched qualifying almost every single like I just I
love it. No matter where I am, I will wake up.
I will watch it. Sometimes I'm my way to the
theater and I'm watching it on my phone. Adolescence was
also so good. That was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
What a great show. That was the show of the year.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I think just the craftsmanship of the show actually so good.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, I watched Task. I thought it was good. Wasn't
like my you know, I still watch it when I
have to come home and not talk, watching all day
and not talk. I'm just watching so much TV.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Sure, that's what you gotta do. Yeah, very exciting.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Do you have any I hate to ask this, but resolutions,
resolutions or goals?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
No, I have none.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Respect this past year, I was like, all I want
is like calm and what started?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
How did twenty twenty five start out? I'm not even
gonna tell you. It's just we know how it started out.
It was just awful for everybody, especially La.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, and so I'm not even I'm at the point
where like in twenty twenty, you're like, twenty twenty one,
it's gonna be the best year. Twenty twenty she's gonna
be even better. We're coming out of this pandemic. And
then you hit like twenty twenty five, and then you're like,
I'm forty this year, and my expectations have just I
am done. I have no expectations. I'm not asking for anything,

(06:53):
because usually I get the opposite. I am just going
in like, please let me survive. Yeah, please let me
make it through. And if we do, that's a win.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, have a nice time with your family and friends.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I don't have any relation work, I have no goals,
I have no words. I just have I am just
I am driving to survive.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Come on, formula one, What about you?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Do you have any resolutions?

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Not really. I would say twenty twenty five was one
of the crazier years for me. It was sort of like.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Jesus take the wheel totally totally.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I was like, it was a lot of change and
a lot of which was really exciting. Yeah, I know
it sounds bad, but it was just like a really
fun like being very open to whatever. And I feel
like I'm still in that mode, like I don't know
what's next. Who knows. I didn't think I was going
to be living in New York.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Right doing a show that you did already and.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
At the top of the year that wasn't even an
option living in New York City and so like I've
lived in la in London and New York in twenty
twenty five, so who knows what's next. And I'm just
having a great time. So I feel like being open,
no expectations following, like I'm doing something I really I

(08:22):
enjoy doing this with you. I really love like doing
spelling be as well meeting lots of nice people like
career wise, doing all this theater has just been really
fun and really refreshing and nice, and like living in
New York has been great, and so it's just crazy
open to whatever. It also feels weird, like my whole
family's been through like my yeah, like I've said before,

(08:45):
my parents moved to Connecticut since the first time in
over thirty years, almost forty years. Actually it has been
forty years. So like, you know, there's a lot of
change and who knows. Makes me feel young again.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I love that. I love that for you see six.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Brings I do have, like, okay, one resolution I will
say maybe sorry.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Great, bring it on.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
This is bad in all of that craziness, like moving
around a whole bunch, reorganizing, like redoing a house, learning
multiple shows. Something had to get sacrificed and all of that,
because I like, I've been super happy, really enjoying it.

(09:30):
The thing that has been sacrificed is like maybe me
physically mentally killing it. You like, physically, I've just been
it feels like, you know what, you've been in theater
rehearsals a lot more than I have, and things like that.

(09:50):
And when you're it's like one thing after another where
you're just like, I just have to get through this,
so I'm just gonna eat whatever I don't have time to. Like,
the thing that gets cut off is like this type
of food I'm eating and yeah, yeah, fitness.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I get that, and you find it. You'll find it.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
It's also very hard to get feel motivated physically in
freezing cold weather.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
There's nothing less motivating.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
In my world than like being in New York in
the winter and being like, I should work out, I
should eat something not warm.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Like it's also because like you're covered up in all
these As soon as I catch myself with me, I'm like,
but also yeah, yeah, yeah, so like I just maybe
like cook a couple of meals, you know.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, it's it's a it's a thing to get into
in New York.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
It's different. It's a different vibe and a different feeling,
and I'm it's so, it's so hard. This next year
year is the year of the Horse in the Chinese zodiac.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
By the way, what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
So it's it's usually associated with energy, freedom, and momentum,
it says this next year, so specifically, twenty twenty six
is the year of the fire Horse, I guess, symbolizing
a combination of the horse's free spirited nature with the
passionate and dynamic element of fire, which can lead to
a year of bold action, change and progress. We love that.

(11:14):
So this period is expected to be energetic, with a
strong push for innovation, self expression, and taking leaps of faith.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well see, there you go.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
A leap of faith. That's for you, and you're.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I feel like that's continuing what I've been doing.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
This could be a good time to make a change
in your career or your personal life and take a
risk or pursue a long held goal.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
This year's energy may feel.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Restless or charge, so it's a time to harness that
energy rather than being overwhelmed by it and being prepared
for rapid developments and a strong push for innovation and
self expression in both personal and global spheres.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I feel like you have like so much momentum going with,
Like there's lots of exciting things happening with Asian American
Girl Club.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah. Yeah, we haven't even talked about that.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
So I'm working at a company called Asian American Girl
Club that was founded by our friend Ali Mockey many
many years ago as a with an Instagram post and
a logo and like a T shirt for a sign
of friendship and belonging. But this year we've had some
really cool developments and I've come on board in a
more official capacity. But one of the most exciting things

(12:22):
that we're doing is I'm podcasting. More so, I'm producing
and hosting a new podcast called Undefinable for Asian American
Girl Club. And it's me and my friend, another actress
friend Kara Wang, that are hosting it, and we're just
chatting with amazing, amazing trail blazers from the community and

(12:44):
friends and then sometimes it's just us. But we're really
doing this for the Asian American girl community that's already
been there for us and you know, there for the company,
and so it's just another way to reach everybody and
to really.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Podcasting is just one of those things that I guess
I'm I do all the time now, but you're good
at it.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
But it's fun and it's different and and so.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
You guys should go listen to it. It airs in January,
so keep a lookout and we'll share more as more
details arise. But yeah, it's been really fun to pivot
a little bit. I do feel a little bit like
Tita conch Hang where we are like, oh, she'd be
like doing something like running a company or doing all

(13:28):
these things, and I'm like, oh, Tina.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's very impressive to watch you because like you're really
low key and cool about everything you have to do,
Like you're one of the busiest people I know, but
you make it look so easy and like, oh, that's
very kind, not fussed about anything, you know, like you
don't ever want to make anybody's problem. But you you know,
people don't always see behind the scenes of what goes on,

(13:53):
what it takes to especially do what you guys are
doing with Asian American Girl Club and like building like
a real yeah we're a.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Free revenue and play startup now.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's just very, very exciting. It's
very fun to watch you do this, and it's inspirational. Wow,
And so I'm glad you're you know, getting to share
all that with your friends and coworkers.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, oh my god, you're the horse. Everybody, Yes, the horse.
Let's go. Oh it's crazy, it's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
So I'll go buy some Asian American Girl Club March.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, we've got a little bit, We've got some hero products,
but we really are evolving into like the production space
and podcast space and media space, you know, amplifying our voices.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
So it's very exciting.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
There's no better people to do it than the people
who have literally been on the inside of the entertainment
business like this too.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
It's like a different way of telling the same stories
that we were commissioned to tell as actors, and now
we're just taking control of it.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
A little bit more. So it's been fun and enjoyable,
and so we hope you guys go over.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
And listen and share with your friends, and you know,
you know the deal you listeners out there now.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
And it's a trusted source, you know, it's like they
know you guys know what you're talking about you've lived
the life from the experience. Yeah, and it's just it's
nice that it's coming from you guys, for you guys.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Well, we hope you guys have a wonderful new year
and a good start twenty twenty six and we're happy
to kick it off with you. Thank you for an
incredible last year and we look forward to the next one.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
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