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March 3, 2025 45 mins

It’s all led to this … Rachel Berry is finally making her Broadway debut! Jenna and Kevin break down this pivotal episode, celebrating Lea Michele’s performance as both Rachel and Fanny Brice.

Jenna shares what it was like returning to set, stepping into the more ‘adult’ New York setting, and filming without Kevin for the first time. The duo also reflects on how much they’re loving these recent episodes, as Glee hits its stride and fires on all cylinders.

But not everything felt the same … Jenna reveals an interesting theory about why she may have enjoyed this episode a little less, while Kevin, watching from the sidelines, had the absolute time of his life!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And That's what you Really missed with Jenna and Kevin
an iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. Hello Hello,
Season five, episode seventeen. We are at the tail end
of season five. Can you believe it?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
No? And I also can't believe this is the first
episode that I'm not in and have not seen ever.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's a crazy Cavin. Yeah, it's sad that I came
back and you left.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
We can't exist at the same time. If you're there,
I can't be there. We're too powerful together.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I at least Tina was like, where's Artie.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, it's like, oh, no, is this.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Were you doing the movie still at this time?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Is that why? Yes? Yes, okay, got it, got it.
They corrected the error of their ways from the episode before.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
It was straight to be there without you, because like,
I've never been there without you, obviously, because you are
the constant that's right up until this point, miss my presence,
so interested to see.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I have thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
So let's just get through the our stuff, because I
have some thoughts and I have some questions for you. Great,
this is season five, episode seventeen. This is Opening Night,
and this is Rachel's Broadway debut as a Stair and
this is this aired on April twenty second, twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
The number one song in the Country is Still Happy
by Farrel Damn and the number one movie is still
Captain America the Winter Soldier as it should be. That's right,
Glee News This week.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
On April twenty second, Glean the Music Opening Night EP
was released. As we've talked about, there will be an
EP for the rest of season five. There's five tracks
from including the season five version of I'm the Greatest Star,
and this EP was released for digital download only. We
have we have my grade away from CD fully and

(02:03):
this episode was directed of course, it was by Eric Stoltz.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
He's back and Chris Parnell, the amazing Chris Barnell as
a guest star of this episode. What a joy with
a bunch of Glee people back as well.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, we have some wonderful people back, Max Sadler, Josh Sussman,
Tina Cohen check.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's right, and Base And we have a lot of
our friend dancer friends and this a lot of them.
They're all there, all the boys, okay.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Uh Love Fool by the Cardigans was the first number
opening number performed by Rachel and the alum.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
N Y Sea was performed by Sue and.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Will I'm the Greatest Star by Rachel.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Who Are You Now? By Rachel and Sue.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
And Pump and Blood by No No No, performed by
Rachel and the alums fun Facts.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
This episode features the first appearances of Kowski since on
My Way Through fourteen and Jbi since Brittany two point
zero four oh two. This also marks Jbi's final appearance
on the show.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Oh that's a long time ago. Kelly saw Kosky like
a long time ago, and.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Especially in real time, like if this was going on,
you know that was years since.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, exactly, that is wild. It feels like he was
in so much more. Okay, So this is the first
episode where two sings in more than one song.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Wow, and she sounds great. She does, She's sang it.
Jane was in the twenty thirteen Broadway revival of Annie
as Miss Hannigan, and Sue is singing NYC a song
made famous from that show. It's from that show and
this episode, which is so great. I love that little
meta niss.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I know, I know she's done two Annie songs now.
Oh yeah, that was one of the fun things. This
is the second song that she sings from Annie, the
first being Little Girls.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
This is the first episode to have one character, Rachel
sing three solos. That feels right, I mean it is
her opening. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
This is the first and only episode which a character
has more than two solos, with Rachel singing Love Fool,
I'm the Greatest Star, and pumpin Blood.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah. This is the first episode in the series to
not feature Artie physically. There wow we speak.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
And now as of this episode, obviously, since this and
your streak, no cast member has appeared in every episode
of the series at this point.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
This is my fault. You broke it. This episode marks
the last appearance from Sue, Tina and Will in season five.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Oh wow Bye. It's also marks Tina's last appearance is
a main character.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
And let me tell you, she really showed up and
showed out. Daniel Finn Schuster is born in this episode,
making him the third baby to be born during the
show's course, behind Beth and Robin.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
That's right, and it is revealed that Will has still
been teaching at McKinley High since the time job, meaning
he didn't get the job at Carmel High.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
What did they forget I think so Darren's parents can
be seen sitting behind Curt and Blaine in the audience
during Funny Girl.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh, Rachel's calendar shows opening night is April twenty fourth,
meaning the timeline is in line with present day OOO.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Coincidentally, April twenty fourth is also Barber Streisan's birthday. Wow.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
And Rachel's dressing room has more some similarities with Fanny
Brice's in the Funny Girl movie.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
So Rachel's dressing room is number eight, the same number
as Fanny's. The wall have similar colors, and they've exposed
bricks just like in the movie. And there's a rack
with some costumes in the background.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Okay, so this episode, the night has finally arrived for
Rachel's Broadway debut in Funny Girl, and she has very
special guests in town to support her career defining moment.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Okay, now I'm a number number one. No, I just
have this. I have thoughts and questions. So number one, Uh,
Tina's back and she's written so annoying that I actually
like wanted to punch her. I was like, shut up, Tina,

(06:28):
just stop, and like why does everybody hate you?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Now? I enjoyed this episode. I did.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm continuing the streak of really enjoying the New York's
spin off. This is like, this is the climax. We
have reached Rachel's Broadbay debut. Like mister, she says in
the dressing room, like we all knew we were going
to be here someday right.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I enjoyed watching this episode a little less, and I
think it's because I was in it.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
And on the flip side, I had the time of
my life.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
See that's what I was gonna ask.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I was howling. I have never laughed out loud at
watching one of these episodes like I did. I was
sitting here, I went from laughing to crying to laughing.
I felt all the emotions. I thought, the show has
never been funnier.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Okay, it was a really funny episode.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
It was there. But also but like pressure the Cop,
the comedy was everybody was firing on all cylinders. And
I know you think, like, oh, the writers must hate
me because they're making no I think it's the complete opposite.
Like all of like Tina being the punching bag, I

(07:48):
understand from a personal level, probably feels personal and terrible. However,
watching it is so satisfying and funny because in the
like the serious moments where Rachel is like spinning out
and she reads some letter who wrote this Tina dying.

(08:09):
I thought my letter was really good. All the gay
jokes about you dating gay men, like you coming in
and saying all like you also deliver you know, it's hard.
I think people underestimate how hard it is to be
that character and to not completely play into it and
like you just deliver that thanks. It is great. I thought,

(08:33):
I love like the running gag now of like whether
you're in the episode or not, of talking about how insane.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Her take her down, Take her down, Bynny.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
I thought Leah was obviously like exceptional, Yes, definitely so funny,
so heartbreaking. Also, I love when she hadn't been in
bed for two days in her hair was still just
completely beautiful perfect. Jane was hilarious. I have thoughts on
the Jane storyline. I did sort of just want it

(09:06):
to be Rachel's moment because that was also good. The
chemistry obviously between everybody and the way everybody shows up
as their characters to interact with whatever Rachel's going through
is perfect. Obviously, you know you all know your characters
so well. The writers know your characters so well, like

(09:28):
everybody's acting and true form. And also it's nice to
everybody's acting in support in a positive way to Rachel,
which a lot of the time doesn't happen because she
gets on everybody's nerves. Right.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
It was like nice to see like the team together, right,
we were like the team was together, and Kurt taking
away all the media, you know, so she can't read
the reviews and everybody. Now we'll get to the suicide
of things, but obviously, like this is all about Rachel
and her opening night. This that you had mentioned about,

(10:02):
like when everybody pops in to like do their.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Thing is so brilliant. It's so well done.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
The knife with the strings the basket.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Like you're cutting the guitar strings is so good, so
so good. How she read that letter that Tina wrote
and made up and then you know in the scene
later you mentioning it. I just who I still can't
get over it. Even as the episode was going on,
I just kept thinking about the way she was saying,

(10:34):
who wrote this? Teen? It was also like Leah is
a very funny person, yes, and.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Rachel she doesn't get to do that right, not.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
All the time, and there's you know, there's maybe a
scene or two, but how many of those looks and
there we're like, oh, that's Leah, Leah doing Leah and
like because she's really funny, Yeah, really funny, and so
like to see her do some of those things on
camera is really satisfied. It was really good.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
She was a plus plus and this whole episode obviously
the group together, like I get I get this satisfaction again.
It was hard for me to separate because I was there,
but like watching going back to like the last few episodes,
it's still like really satisfying when like it's so focused,

(11:27):
like it's just one to do storylines right now, maybe
three with mister Shu. Yeah, like it is simple and
clear and there's time and there's like breathing, and I like,
I just I love that we got to see some
of the performances.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Like that was really satisfied. No, not at all, like.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
The reviews itself, like reading the reviews everything anyway, So
let's let's talk about like the episode a little bit
and we can get into like some of our favorite parts.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
So this opening sequence, Yeah, if any of you are
I don't think you have to be a performer. If
you have a big presentation at work, if you have
a presentation, a speech to give in class or anything
like that, I assume you have the same terror dreams,
because every performer's worst nightmare, and it's a nightmare many

(12:18):
of us have had. If you get woken up and
you have to go on stage, you're like, I'm not ready.
I don't know my lines, I don't know the numbers
with my blocking, I don't have the costumes and the
way it was done, and the show is so perfect,
the teeth, the tea, everything. It's every bad dream in

(12:39):
one and we've all experienced it seeing all those random
people from your past, and there John Locke in a
bald cap playing the drums and the girl on piano
with your SIPs rose from Titanic, Like, I don't know,
it's weird? Is it was trippy? It was really really
and accurate. She goes from like sitting in bed to
being naked, to being in the audience to being on

(13:01):
stage singing love Ful, which I also think was a
perfect song selection. Do you At first, I was like,
what is this? This feels wrong?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Still a little confused by it.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Because she sing love Me, Love Me, and all she
wants to do. This whole number is like it's setting
up the whole episode because she's worried about the review,
She's worried about the trolls on the internet, the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Okay, okay, I know again.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
The spiral of where you're trying to convince yourself, like
self sabotaging before this, like I can't do this, I
can't do it for sure.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Okay, okay, fair enough, I get it now, I get it.
That's a good, good point. I totally missed that.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
I don't agree with the last song in the episode.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well that was weird. It was fun, but it was weird.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
And we'll get to that. But I thought this opening
sequence was so real and made me nervous.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Very fair, very fair, very fair. I was a little
confused by it at first, and I think I was.
It was the idea of like I didn't get the
song choice, so like the whole thing just felt like
out of sorts to me. But the way you put
it just now, I totally am on board.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yes, but I even think the genre of song because
it does seem like out of sorts and disorienting like,
I kind of nice. I think it's I love.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
The performance of it. Like I I was like, whatever
she's doing, I buy it, you know what I mean.
I just didn't quite understand the choice of like why,
but now I get it. Okay, great, great, great. So
everybody's coming to show up for her opening night. She's
got all this anxiety. Kurt takes all of her phone

(14:45):
so she can't read reviews and computer, and then Tina
comes into town and says.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh, just when you think she said it all, there's more.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
There's always more. She always has more to say. She
always has more to say. It was it was fun
to shoot in the loft. Yeah, it's different. It's like
a totally different vibe, Like it's faster, it's more adult,
Like it felt like you were shooting a totally different
TV show, right, It was really weird.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
It'ah so much faster, and you're also coming in and
just doing like straight comedy like, so that pace is
also different on top of the pace of just shooting
in the loft is quicker in general. Yes, yes, How
did do you remember the feeling of coming back after
being off for a little bit?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, honestly, I didn't. I don't it felt weird because
it felt like I was coming in. It's almost like
this is an interesting reference in my head, like when
you graduate from high school and you go back to.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Your high school. Yeah, that's what it felt like.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
It felt like coming back to like a very familiar place,
but like in a new with like new people, but
like obviously it was all of our friends, so it
wasn't young people.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
It was really fun.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
It was actually really nice to come in and be
like refreshed and have a totally different like storyline and
even though the gags are similar, like it just felt new,
like I was just I was like there for it.
I wasn't rushing to get home, like it was like, great,
I'm here for one, Like put me in coach and

(16:21):
I'll see you later. You don't even have a good time,
you guys.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
It was really god that you got so much more too,
Like even at the end would be like I got
the DJ's number and everyone's like, no.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
It's funny, right, it's fun to It was fun to
be with everybody, for sure. It's fun to be back
and the cont like, yes, it was really nice to
feel like I was featured and it was like worth
being there, you know what I mean, Like my time
was being used like well and efficiently, and even though
like that's all I was asking for.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I'm not asking to be Rachel. I don't want to
be Rachel.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Like that's not what I you know what I mean
this is this was Leah's episode, but like it was
just so much fun to be there.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Honestly, So this this mom tage of everybody coming in
to cheer Rachel up because she puts herself to bed
so much fun to watch, so satisfying. I mean, it
also feels like the energy in this episode Stolts. This
is why I think he's perfect for this. Stolets does
heart and comedy in such a balanced way, balance an

(17:31):
efficient way. Yes, where there's no like Fufarah. It's straight
to the point and like the jokes land, the timing
is always correct, like he has all of this thought
out beforehand, and.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
He's like it pays attention to the detail, but like
he's still so fast about it that like it gets done.
It was nice to come back with Sults too, because
like it's a familiar director that.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
You know is going to get his shit done and
he's going to do it well.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
The also the leading up to that when she when
Kurt catches her in bed with all of the reviews
and like all the different like mediums was so funny.
It's so it was so particular to the time too,
because like it was not only just like the New
York Times and where you pick up the paper at
the newstand, Like you have the Internet, you have the phone,

(18:20):
you have social media, and it felt like very it
resonated with like both on screen and off of like
what we were dealing with. Like I remember going on
up Perez Perez at the time and reading comments and
like I'm not reading comments anymore. Yeah, like it's a
really dark cold that you can go down and you

(18:41):
have to decide whether you're going to do it or not.
And it's like you have to take the good with
the bad, and you get the bad with the good,
you know. So it felt very indicative of like what
we were also going through in that period of time.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, it's like way, so you also have two more
additions showing up. You have Shoe and you have Sue
showing up, which I also really liked. I did like
let's get the gang back together, because this is like
the first real life big thing outside of McKinley to

(19:17):
happen like this, like professionally speaking, yes, and it's like
a dream. It's specific to the glee club, and it
is nice and it always it also seems like, oh,
Sue's about to do one of her I mean, but
I'm actually nice things, is what it felt like. Like.
I ultimately I do want to be there to see

(19:38):
her perform, and the fact that did not turn into
that is very surprising. I really thought that she was
gonna have some sort of like redemption here. When she
really tripled down on how much she hates Funny Girl
and Rachel and musicals, I was just shocked. I did

(20:00):
like them being there. I did like Sue walking into
the loft and making those jokes.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
And NYC also love that number. I loved it. I
just enjoyed it. I loved it. I thought the snow
globe was brilliant. I just I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
It was incredible, it was so good. It loved it.
I was like, here we are. You know, I've said
this already, I think in the back half of the season,
but here we are in the later stages of season five,
and this is one of the most creative numbers that's
ever been done on the show.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I thought it was so good, brilliant.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
And the way that like Will's interacting with it, where
he's like, am I in this? What's going on? Okay?
I'm in it? The trench coat over the track suit,
the beautiful sets that were being used, and like how
they're being driven on and off of set, Like this
whole thing is stunning, No, really, really really good.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
I Will also say, yes, Sue does not. She she
hates it. She's she's not she's selling her ticket. She
isn't even gonna go in to Funny Girl. But Chris Parnell, Like,
just being able to watch Chris Parnell and Jane worked
together was.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
A joy. Like it was it was.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Truly and it was so like the storyline was so
weird and almost like it was so weird that it
had to be there or it was fine being there
because it was so weird. But I I enjoyed the
two of them together even though it was a weird
pairing and a weird storyline. I and to watch Chris

(21:59):
Parnell out in a robe in front of you, it
was like it was like I was like, please, let
us work with him more because he.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Is so funny. I was jealous, That's what I was
jealous of. I was jealous that you guys are getting
to work with Chris Parnell and I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
And Jane like her coming in and doing that whole thing, yes,
and then watching being able Leah being able to tell
her off like Rachel being Sue off was so good.
Her response like, well, I'm not welcoming, it's great. I

(22:36):
just like the whole experience behind the camera was like,
so much fun?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Is that? Then Leah and Jane both ended up doing
Funny Girl. Right, Jane did it too. I forgot. It's
so strange, so weird, so weirdly right, it's so weird
to wrap this of Jane's storyline up. The thing is,
it's like, objectively that storyline I didn't necessarily need to

(23:09):
be there, but she's so good that you just watch
her do anything and be thankful for it. Yeah, like
her whole rank at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Jane in the show and not give her enough, you
know what I mean, like give her stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yes's Corner's corner was phenomenal. And also I was like
I didn't know that this sort of like right wing
conspiracy about New York was alive, and well, then like
has really been my barometer of like where the Republican

(23:42):
Party was at. She really knew and Ian really knew
what was going on with the Conservative Party. That's the truth. Yeah,
and so he had his finger on the polls politically,
who knew. We never talked about politics, not but I
thought that rant was brilliant and then her being like,

(24:05):
well I got caught. I actually have to go to
New York now. I liked that whole thing. I did do.
I loved it. I do wish I and I like her.
You know, when the storyline wraps up with her and
Chris Parnell, it's so sweetly, you know, thanks for making
me feel like a girl, Like you're not like that,
you are lovable.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
That was really sweet and profound, and I truly do
think at the root of it, and I think Jane
has maybe mentioned this before, like somebody so evil and
vile like that who acts that way ultimately, like at
the Foundation doesn't feel self worth, right, they don't.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
It's all action feel exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yes, And so for him to say that so late
in the game of the show, for somebody to come
and see Sue that way. It was actually really groundbreaking
and profound and important.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
In that moment, I also thought, we know Chris Parnell
from SNL and being you know, like big and over
the top. His whole performance was so understated and real,
and then you have Sue who's doing Sue things, and
it was really nice. I like their chemistry together in

(25:21):
that way. The balance of it was such a success
that I'm like, ah, yeah, Jane sounded great. Don't get
me wrong, Jane sounded great. However, my biggest like no
is having who are you now? As a duet duet.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I was like, they're not going to do this.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Especially because it was already brought up that Rachel was
most worried about that song because she thinks of Finn
and if she can get through that song, it's going
to be fine and luckily, and I feel like this
is a taste thing on Stultza's level. Of the song
starts out where it's a duet, but the back half
of that number is just on Rachel and boy, oh boy, goosebumps.

(26:07):
I have chills right now talking about it.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
What a what a performance. Tears, yes, tears from everybody.
She's giving you, she is giving I am I was floored.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'm getting ahead of myself. Sorry, I want to I
want to go back. I want to go back to
getting Rachel out of bed. I'm so sorry. I just
watched this episode right before we started in Spas. I'm
like hype on this episode. But if you can follow
me here, if we can go back to them them

(26:42):
calling in the big guns, Santana the did.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
You watch did you watch this? Oh?

Speaker 1 (26:49):
You weren't there. I watched this being shot and it
was so did she hate birds?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
She didn't like birds?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
She did not like There were a lot of our
crew who did not like birds.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
You know what, I think it's Amber who also doesn't
like that.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
No, Amber and Telly do not like flying pas.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
She did really well with that bird. And the final
product was Chef's kiss. One hundred goals to meet a.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Goal, the fact that she can get out of that
cab looking hot, and then the craziest like physical comedy
Bob and weave Duck and then goes into that loft
and it's like, give me four minutes. It was so
that scene and I was like, what is she what

(27:37):
is she going to say? What can she possibly say,
and then it's the same thing that it's the speech
you and I have given each other, Jenna, Yes, it's right.
We've literally when you're like, I don't want to do
drag Race. I'm gonna I'm gonna get voted out this week.
I can't do it, and I go, I know you
think that, but you and I have one speed. And
if you get us on stage in front of an audience,

(27:57):
even when we feel down and out or tired, we're
going to give you one hundred. We're going to get
it all to you. Yeah, you're so right. I'm watching it,
and I was like, yes, this is the only way
to get any of us out of our slumps, because
totally nobody's half asking it when you're put in front
of the audience, and it's like Lea's even Leah's half assed,

(28:21):
would be miles above most people totally.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And and just the thought like just like kind of
debunking the reviews, the idea of like her bringing in
Barber's reviews and the way that they did it was
so well done and just so I think it's necessary
for all like young performers out there who do read
the worry about reviews and what other people think. Of course,

(28:46):
as performers, we do. It's just a it's a great
reminder that even like the top most genius, brilliant stars
out there have been shot down by bad reviews.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
So and surrounding yourself with people's opinions that you do.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Trust right, her being with her friends.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, that's important, and it's hard to remind yourself of
that because that echo chamber starts and you know what's
going on. You know, people are talking about you, yes,
and it's hard to just let it lie there. Yes.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Uh So Santana comes to the rescue and then Rachel's like,
what are you all moping around for?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
It's my opening night? We get super excited.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Mister Shoe comes in and congratulates Rachel, which I think
was an important scene because as her mentor and as
the two leads of the show, like, this was the this,
this has been the relationship since the beginning right now,
the culmination of the entire show, them sitting on the

(29:49):
bleacher singing like being a partisaning special, Misty special. It's like,
oh Joe, Hello, Hello, and then and and then the
water her breaking her Emma's water breaking, which I was like,
you know, I've been like, gosh, it doesn't happen like
in the movies when your water breaks and then you

(30:09):
go to the hospital and you have the baby, and
I'm like, wow, it happened to me and my water broke.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
And I went to the hospital. So sometimes it does.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
But it's good her water broke, but Emma's water breaks,
and so Will has to go home and he magically
makes it back to Ohio in time for her to
have the baby.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
When Rachel does her number, who are you now? Like
Finn's clips show up. I was not expecting that, nor
did I remember that at all. No, it's like when
they did it and still haven't found what I'm looking for,
and it gets you. And then like just listen to

(30:55):
the lyrics of what the song is and listening to
her sing it while also having pegged it that she
thinks about Finn.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
It was like bomb and there's also something special powerful
about so like Sue leaves in the beginning of the
first act and all that shenanigans, and then at her mission,
the director comes back and is like, look, here's the

(31:23):
reality of this. It's like, if you want the show
to survive, it's on your shoulders. And you have to
give it to them. And I really liked that because
on top of what it means emotionally that song that
she does in the second act, she's also bearing the

(31:44):
burden of the success of the show. And you see
the other dancers, you see the people backstage and she
and she doesn't like flail, She doesn't flounder like she
would have in high school. She just sort of like
takes it on.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
And to me that was like a want two punch
of that song because there's so much going on, like
in that success she's also like owning the show and
then she's also like owning her past and her history.
And all I was like this is it was a
lot in that one number. And and you know, I'm

(32:19):
a sucker for Leah cries. Oh yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Will say. Nobody comes in during universsion and talk no no, no,
no no no, it's a really good No, it's like
a really.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
But it's good TV, Jenna.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's good TV, of course, but the producer's not coming
in being like somebody who looked and it's on you
like that is for usually stage managers or directors will
come in like an hour or two before your next
show and give you notes or leave you a note
and like this line, make sure it's clearer or whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
But like, you don't not you don't psyche somebody out
like that. The middle of the show. Yeah, that's awful.
I was like, what are these people doing? Exactly even
before the show, I was like, shoot, wait, like.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
You know you're knocking on her door. Well, nobody's allowed
in there after half hour anyway, so that's actually a
lie too.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
But the her walking down the steps, yeah, the whole walk,
just getting that walk, I was like, okay, are ext alts? Okay?
It was really good. It was really good. And then
she gets in place, the curtain goes up, and I

(33:41):
had I just had chills. I really did.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I know.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
And you know there's something also the power of then
like her getting to do that show in real life
after this, I know, there's just a lot of like
weird connections to it.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
So then after the show there's this like Blaine has
an idea to go to a club to party because
Rachel doesn't want to go to the after party that
the show is throwing.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
So we go to a club. We shot gay club.
Yes club.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
It is really fun and all of this. I will
say I never got to go to New York for
any of this.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
This was all in La. This is all l A.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
We shot that in a club at like ten in
the morning.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Was any of this episode. I don't think any of
this episode was.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Shot in New York because it was the loft, it
was the theater downtown, it was the New York streets
and the dressing room.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
So yeah, A l A did a good job. Though
it looked it looked pretty good.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
And I think I think the restaurant that Sue and uh,
what's his name Filman is mus Franks, I think, so
it looked familiar, like those booths in the middle, which
is a famous like spot in La. So anyway, we

(35:05):
go to party. Now, tell me about your feeling about
this pump and bloh number, because I will say I
forgot we did this in this episode. Totally forgot. Like
as it started, I was like, was I there? And
then of course we start the number and I'm like, oh, yeah,
we were there. We actually had a blast. We had
a blast doing this number. It was so much fun.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I mean it looked like a night out with us
like it fully.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, exactly, And it was all of us, and we
were just like sitting there and hanging out with all
of our friends and our like cool dancer friends that
we love, and the number was fast and it was
like the bar stank, but like it was really.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I had a good time doing Yeah, we all had fun.
It looked like it. I think like watching you all
do like party was very very fun. It felt musically
like a very anticlimactic after this episode. I guess that
this episode was to me like ten all the way,

(36:01):
like comedy emotion. Everything is at the you know, like
the top of the limit for everybody, and then it
dropped for you. And then you're doing this song about nothing. Yeah,
I get it, I get it. And it's like she
walks in and she gets recognized, and it's like this
really significant moment where she's just gone through this like
really hard forty eight hours. Yeah, and then she's like, yeah,

(36:25):
I'll sing I'm here all night, and then she does
that number.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I didn't even
know that number when we did it.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I still don't. It's nothing against no, no.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
No, I get it, I get it, I get it.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
But it didn't feel right for the moment, and it
happens a couple of times where we do that sort
of genre whatever. In that time, in that era, there
was like a brief period of this sort of genre.
I don't exactly know what it is.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
No, I agree, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I get it's and I think it's because fun worked
and we kept I imagine, we kept getting pitched these
songs from record labels. And I'm making this up now,
but I am sure with the success of that song
had in part because of when we had it on
the show, labels are trying to get us to do

(37:20):
their numbers, probably from artists that were just starting out
or not well known, and it just didn't get for you. No,
I was just a little like, oh, this episode was
so good. Why it's like soulless. It's a soulless like loveful.
I understand because what it's saying and what she's going

(37:40):
through everything else makes complete sense of the story. Pump
and Blood means nothing.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
It did feel like he came out of nowhere. Even
the club itself felt like he came out of nowhere.
We were like, we have retely diverted from we've lost
the pot.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
But you have that really great set all of you
who are dancing and having fun, and if you did
really great song, it would have made like the episode
even that much stronger. Put like a button on it.
It was. It was really sure, but like, right, all right, all.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Right, well the reviews come in and we did the
news stand and the reviews are really really good and
it's a huge success, which, by the way, reviews can
make a break a show, and they do make a
brick a show totally.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
So that scene was so cute. I just love the
feeling of all of you being there and reading it,
and her pacing on the street and like running to
get the newspaper from the newsstand. It was it was like,
you know, this episode featured a lot of tropes and
that way, Yeah, I really enjoyed them. It's just different.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
It was different, you know, like it's so much fun
and satisfying. And then mister Shoe calls and he tells
us that, you know, the baby was named Daniel Finn,
which is sweet, and so that felt like the button
for me. Like that of the episode. Yeah, and like
the Little Bow, but a pretty good episode.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I have to say, I loved this episode. I thought
it was just so funny. Agreed, really so funny.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Okay, let's create some performances. Let's grade.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Uh, let's start with Love Fool. I give it an A. Yeah.
I thought it was wacky and crazy and wonderful.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
NYC A plus A plus, I'm the Greatest Star A
plus plus.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
I was gonna give it an ah vocally A plus plus.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just felt like the performance,
the fanning performances deserved an A plus plus.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
I guess you're right. You know what's hard for me
was NYC was like such a spectacle. It looked and
then I'm the Greatest Star the actual Broadway show. The
set looked so much cheaper. Yeah, it did it. It
looked like a black box. Yeah, it was a little strange.

(40:13):
It was like this, I don't know about this, but
I mean she's saying.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
So yeah, she was giving us performance who Are You Now?

Speaker 1 (40:22):
A plus A plus plus plus plus plus. And then
Pump and Blood d No, the performance himself, I'm just kidding.
The performance itself, I enjoyed. I enjoyed watching all of you.
I'll give it a b.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Okay, let's see some tardie takes, cringe moments.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
I mean, it's got to be just a lot of Sue.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah. Also like the kissing and the slow motion dancing.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I was like, I don't know, it's hard to feel
like Sue is still not their teacher, and she's showing
up at their home so cringing.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
That they're sleeping together in the like students Rachel's bed.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
And then it's like I'd put something on that we're
freshman in college. It's not like we're adults, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Best dance move the blood h dancers, Yes.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Bodies, Yeah, exactly. Best song who are You Now? Yeah,
performance by a prop Rachel's swing in. I was like,
there's a ring in the good I think at one. Yeah, exactly.
There's a lot of good props in this episode. I

(41:40):
mean the New York Times, the all the things like
the scissors and the note that you wrote of the
entire like every single thing in n y c. Numbers. Yeah,
there's a lot. Uh, the best line who wrote this?

(42:05):
That's good? Okay, I'll take it. And I did this
my other favorite And no, I don't have a boyfriend,
but I was eating this really nice guy. But he
turned out to be gay. He's probably gay homosexual? No, no, yes,
yes he knew it. I know it was totally a
court outlet, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Probably oh too funny performance MVP.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah all day, Yes, I mean she never been better.
Mm hmmm, So should we found on TikTok is one
of my favorites that we've ever had tv h They
are doing the controversial bridge to loser like me and

(42:58):
it is a screw. Don't no, that's so funny. Glee
is my religion and they do this whole number. And
somebody said in the comments, close enough, welcome back Glee.
Oh my gosh, close enough. The new directions they're so good,
aren't they? Like? This is so much fun. I could

(43:20):
watch us on loop. So there were a lot of
good TikTok. So there's another one that I want to
show you really quickly as a little bonus. It tickles me.
She said, you remember the time you had bangs because
you wanted to look like Mercedes from Glee. And she

(43:41):
throws in a clip of herself younger and stop Mercedes
Heavy Bang Heavy Bang lyrics archive. She said, Jail, whoever
did my hair like? That? Made me think it looked good?
Oh god? You know in the comments here, someone said, wait, no,

(44:01):
I love this so much you saw your stuff on TV.
Wanted to be like her girlhood representation. Yes, yes, I
get it. Yeah, I mean like, that's so sweet, and
she did not look as bad as she thinks she looked.
Now we have said that Say Little Prayer has been
going viral and it has reached its peak here where

(44:26):
the Blue Man Group themselves are doing Say Little Prayer. Oh,
in full Blue Man Group regalia.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
This is too good. My friend was a Blue Man.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
That's crazy. Yeah, he's very good at it. That's wild,
isn't it crazy? That feels very famous? Just to note.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Also, multiple people have texted me that they were at
the Smithsonian and sent me a picture of Tina's JRCK Amazing, Like,
what a time?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Who's I'm just Smithsonian amazing.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Okay, thank you everybody for Thank you Kevin for those tiktoks.
Those are really great. I think we have to do
just a little part for you at some point. And
that's the opening night of Rachel's debut. Stay tuned for
next week. That's what you really.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Miss see ya, thanks for listening and follow us on
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