March 24, 2025 • 49 mins
We're here! It's the final episode of Season Five!
It seems everyone is going in new directions ... Samcedes breaks up, Rachel is going to LA, and Brittany returns, but does this really feel like a finale episode? There is much to go over and dissect, like Mercedes' original song, Sam's model dreams, their interpretations of that final scene with Rachel, and, of course, the performances! There are so many fun ones, but Jenna kinda shocks Kevin when she reveals she was not a fan of one of their song choices!
Kevin also has fun stories of his time working with Shirley MacLaine and Kristen Schaal, and Jenna has a 'Ron Burgundy' moment that leaves them gasping for air.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Podcast Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast?
Season five finale ish how did we get here? Well?
How did we get here? Number one? Also? Was that
a finale of a season? I'm so mean, I'm so mean. Look,
(00:30):
we can't love. You can't win them.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
All, you can't. I think there's a couple of things
contextually we have to bring up. Let's remember what happened
at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Right right right ried we're kind kind to everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
There was a scramble, you know, to figure out what
we're going to do. Let's reorganize the show. The season
order was reduced from originally being twenty two episodes.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Seemingly later in the season, so they thought they had
more episodes to kind of wrap things up, and then
those got canned, and then it was wrapped things up quickly.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think it's a miracle anybody was able to do twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Episodes agreed after what happened, yes, yes, no, no, no, for.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Sure in every department and it's like, you know what,
we made it. We did it on the back. Great job.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Clap clap of the hands to everybody and AWESO.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So we had some great moments this season, still so,
and there's some great moments in this episode. Is it
a great episode?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
No, it's not a great episode.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's not, but there's some special moments. It definitely doesn't
feel like if anale until the very end of the episode.
But oka like, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Whatever, again, we're lots of grace.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Everyone's doing their rest.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Everyone's doing their rest all right. Season five, episode twenty,
the unentitled Rachel Barry Project. This aired on me thirteenth,
twenty fourteen. And like we said, this is the season
five season finale. There's a new song, number one's song, and.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's in this episode I Know All of Me by
John Legend. There's a new number one movie Neighbors. You
saw this, didn't you?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
No? No, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Jenna, what do you do for fun?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Why do you hate the movies?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I've never loved the movies, really, I never loved. It's
not like a pastime that I'm like I sat down
and watched a movie, Like I like movies. I like
going to movies, But it wasn't like a point in
my life where I was like I have to see
this movie, and I have to see this movie. There's
(02:49):
a few like I brought my son to a movie
theater to see Wicked when he was just born, So
I didn't know you.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Brought some movies.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You got headphones. I brought. He slapped the whole time.
It was great.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh, like a newborn to the theater because you had
to see Wicked.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I had to see Wicked. And he was like, there's
like a small window of time where like a newborn
will sleep just about anywhere. And he did sleep just
about everywhere that he knew you needed that he did anyway.
But yeah, I know, I don't. I don't make it
a point to see like, I.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Don't know how. I'm just learning this like into our friendship.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, well we can tell by the amount of movie
number one movies that I've seen. It was number one
and I had had If it's not a mar movie,
Jennas has not seen it, that is correct? Or uh,
Harry Potter, Harry Potter or Hunger Games, I love a trilogy? Okay?
Glee news This week. On May twelve, Fox announced Glee
season sixth, part of their twenty fifteen spring programming. The
(03:52):
Fox Upfronts and fan fronts in New York City. Obviously
we've gone to the upfronts for many, many years, but
this year Leah, Darren, Jane and Kord represented the show.
Darren performed and a couple of songs, and then of
course we have our EP that came out for this episode,
including the original song shaking My Head. And also, you guys,
(04:19):
it's March twentieth, which is what.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Ten years since the gleef finale aired.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
So, Kevin, we were not in the US when the
Glee finale aired.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
We were moved, Yes, I do.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
We were in Paris during a convention meaning wonderful fans,
that's right. And we had to go home and then
watch it afterwards.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yes, And I was not there for the rap party.
I flew out like the very next day, I think,
to start working on a show I was doing in
the UK, That's right. And I remember I woke up
the day before and I shot my show all day.
I had REP per usual. Then I got on that
train the next morning to meet up with you guys.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh my gosh, Kevin, that's crazy. Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Darren was there, Alexis was there, Becca.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Was there, Jacob was there.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It was a great time.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You had a wonderful time.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
We had a very good time. My friend Cleo came
and met up with us.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's right, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Brad Fauchuk directed this episode. Hodson wrote it. Sure the
McLean is back, surely is Yeah. And to start off
this song section, we get an original Mercedes track that
has the maybe the most insane lyrics.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Shaking my head, yeah, okay, all of Me performed by Blaine.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Girls on Film performed by Sam and Charlie Darling.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Glitter in the Air performer Rachel loved that song.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
No Time at All from Pippin performed by Blaine in June.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
American Boy performed by Blaine.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And Kurt, and Pompeii performed by Rachel, Kurt, Artie, Sam, Mercedes,
Blain and Brittany. Blaine had one, two, three, four songs
in this episode.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I am about to pick with some of these songs,
but we'll get there. Uh, not even a bone to pick,
It's just it's all over the place.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Okay, hold on, this is this first bun fact is dark.
So this episode was watched by one point eight seven
million viewers with a zero point six rating, a new
series low. This marks the first episode in the series
history to slip below two million.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's a dark difference from our super Bowl episode.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's dark, dark times. I think this is when I
stopped checking the ratings.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, you gotta you gotta save your sanity and your
mental health, protect yourself. This also makes it the lowest
rated season finale in the series.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
This is also the only season finale in which Emma, Mike, Santana, Tina,
and Will are absent.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Whoa and I had recorded songs and film scenes for
this episode, but they were cutting written out.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That's probably why Blaine and I had so many songs.
This is the third time season finale ends with the song,
the first being Journey to Regionals, the second being Goodbye.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And also considering that they had all this stuff for
Santana and then they had to like piece it all together.
That's this episode also feels like a little broken in
that way too, Like that makes sense, you.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Know, totally.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
This is the last New York centric episode. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, but when at the end of the episode, when
Sam was walking down those McKinley halls.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It got me, oh best part welcome back.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, I was ready. As much as I love the
New York of it all. Yeah, it's conflict. I'm always conflicted,
like we always talked about. This is the last episode
in here where the inside of the Bushwick apartment is shown. Wow,
the loft is gone.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
End of an era. Wow, that is so crazy?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Is that quick? It feels really quick, but it's been
two seasons, I.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Guess very quick. Right, Yeah, this is the last episode
of Mercedes is a guest character. She returns as a
main character in the next season. And she said, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Bump me back up, baby. This is the last episode
to credit Naya and Jenna, who were both absent as
series regulars, and season six they become guest stars.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Special guest stars.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
This is the last episode to credit Alex Jacob, Blake,
Melissa and Becca a series rags. In season six, Alex Jacob,
Becca Blake, they all become guest stars again.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
With twenty nine characters. This episode has the longest title
ever in the series.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
This is the fifth episode where all the main characters
present present you know what, it's felt the same, Okay,
This is the fifth episode where all the main characters
present in the episodes.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
How many evidence have we done it? This is the
first time that that's happened. That's pretty good. That was
full Ron Burgundy. Oh that really got me. I haven't
laughed that high in a really long time.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Still there, it is, still there. You got it. You're
gonna need that thing. Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh God. When recording Glitter in the Air, Leah tweeted
and thank you to Ryan and Brad letting her pick
and sing her favorite song of all time. That's sweet.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I didn't wow. Interesting, so Jenna, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Our last episode summary of the season. In the season
five finale, Rachel meets a famous television writer guest star
christ And Shawl, whose eccentric personality catches Rachel off guard. Meanwhile,
Sam and Mercedes deal with the pressure of commitment as
their careers take off, and the time has finally come
from Blaine's big showcase with June Dollaway guest stars Sheridan
(10:23):
McLain at Niata.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
All Right, where do we even begin.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Let's start with Sam sades our faves. So Mercedes is
about to head on tour, which love and doing a
full mall tour, like doing the grind, like.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Kather Morris is just in it.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, Brittany shows up and clearly there's some miscommunications. Santana's
doing a yeast stat commercial for.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
A week, which I also who does a commercial for
a week?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But then also she's gonna meet Mercedes and Reno. I
don't know, Okay, Santana's just you know, out being busy.
She's a and now she has Brittany as her backup dancer.
And can we talk about this performance of Shaking my Head?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
What do you think of it? Kevin?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
These feel like some great Ian lyrics talking about my Jesus,
Like why does Jesus look like a white guy when
he was born in Palestine? That ain't right? Shaking my Head?
I first of all, these melodies are great. That's catchy,
(11:45):
you know what.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Amber's like little like original bops are all like underrated,
and I think that they all deserve more praise because
they are so funny and they are bops. What was
the other one? Else?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
To the now?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It did make me realize how different music has become.
What do you mean, like that style of song just
would not work today where that was a style even
though it's a fake song, right, I mean it's like
a comedic song. That style of song or music absolutely
(12:23):
would have worked in the twenty tens, early two thousands,
you know, and that sounds so unlike anything that's out
now pop wise, like that is so far from where
we are. It's almost like innocent, like hmm, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. I get what you're saying.
That's why I feel about there's like so much nostalgia
for like the music when we were growing up. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, but I don't know why that song in particular
really sort of like hit me in the face with
it of it's for me, you know, I think it's
easy for us as like early nineties sounded like this,
eighties sounded like this, late nineties sounded like this, early
two thousand sounded like this. Yeah, and then it starts
to get a little murky for me, like I don't
(13:13):
really know. At twenty ten's what the sound is. Later
in twenty twenty year it I don't know. However, this
made me realize, like, oh, okay, I do hear the difference.
There is a distinction of where we are now. That's all.
That's just my stupid breath.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Fair enough, no, fair enough, you're the music guy, I
defer to you. So Sam has this audition for like
there's a debacle with the Treasure Trails advertising shoot, and
(13:53):
so Sam has like a last minute audition and the
head of the modeling agency comes in and like she's
like looking for somebody who turns around the most, which
is like all it's like the casting couch, I feel like,
which is very doesn't work well anymore. The whole thing
(14:15):
was like very icky to me. Excuse but yes, keezy.
But Sam's auditioning with all these like incredible answers yes,
and hot people and they all look very sexual. It's
a very sexy number.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I did. What I did like though, is because I thought,
which ends up happening later in the episode, what happens
then was going to happen in the audition. Oh yeah,
I was like, oh this is nice. We're subverting the
expectation of she's like sell me sex. But it's only
just the sale the sex, right, Like we're just show
(14:52):
it to me, show it. Yeah. And I liked that
because like, oh, we're not doing that storyline.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
But then we did.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Then we did.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, no, you bet your bottom dollar. We did it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Come on, Annie, we.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Sam Sam does Girls on Film love that song. He
sounds great. Yeah, it's a fun number. It's you know,
did we need it? I don't know, love watching Cordy
do it, but why not? Yeah? No, it was fine.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Get those abs out core.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But Sam gets the job, and separately, everybody's telling both
Mercedes and Sam that they need to break up.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well Sam, we discover Sam has this rubber band that
uses to distract himself every time he's horny.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It's kind of like the the Mailman, Yeah exactly, and
so he's pent up and he's telling everybody about it,
which is why he ends up getting the job because
he is just exuding sex.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Sexual that's all he can think about, right, which it's
not happening for him in his relationship.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So they're telling him that he needs to he should,
he should break up with Mercedes, and.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I did enjoy that. It was like out of nowhere.
But you know, Mercedes walks into the loft and there's
three people waiting. Then Sam's with Already and Blaine, and
they're having like the boys conversation about you know, like
you don't have to be doing this right right, which
(16:36):
I love. Some of my favorite parts of the show
historically are you know, when the friends team up to
help the other friends have a little interventions.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That was the part of like in McKinley and in
like the this earlier season five, like Departure to New York.
I do feel like the boys and the girls got
a lot of like time, especially like in your episode,
and you know, it was like it's fun to see
everybody kind of splitting up and going into their own storylines.
(17:09):
So I do appreciate I see what you're saying there.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And I also like that there's been so much Sam
Sades lately because I feel like for both of them,
their relationships in the past have always been such like
a subplot. Yeah, and it's nice that they get sort
of the yeah star treatment for the relationship the back
half of the season.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I'm look, I'm just a little torn about San Sadies
because obviously, like we've done hot takes and we think
that Sam SDEs. I agree that Sam Sdi should have
been endgame. We love Sam Sydes. We think they have
the best chemistry. Their scenes are all really great. We
love their storylines. They're kind of like, I don't know,
(17:52):
they're grounded, and they're really good and ambering quarter amazing.
But I'm torn because I do feel like their storyline
and their breakup is valid, like it was very mature,
so much sure, and it's really again, I'll watch anything
that they do, but I was sad that that was
(18:12):
in the end of it, right, like that's Sam Sades
is done.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Now, is done done because as a viewer, now who's
in it? I'm hoping you know that you were left
with hope and this show so often couples come back together.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
So I don't know how many episodes left, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I know, but as you said a billion times, we
don't know what happens in season six, and.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So you're right, there's there's always a chance.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm just a little hopeful because they're so good and
I love their maturity. It was it was very reminiscent
of some of the conversations Santana and Brittany had during
their breakup.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Even like when Sam's like I cheated on you and
I did the thing and Mercy these response is so mature.
It's like, wow, yeah, exactly, she could have blown up
and gotten mad and done the whole thing. And you know.
But but again, I think the thing we love about
(19:14):
them is that they it is it is nice to
see a mature, healthy relationship.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
There's growth there and you're seeing grow together. They're so different,
and I feel like the writers have done such a
good job of showing both of them growing in their
own ways together in New York. Think about how different
they seem now and grown up than they did at McKinley,
which wasn't that long ago, but it's still they still
(19:41):
it feels natural and organic because it still feels like
the Mercedes and Sam that we love.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
No totally.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So they decided to break up and Mercedes is going
to go on tour and maybe they're going to make it.
And then we find out Sam is on the side
of a bus.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
He mad it and then he leaves. He makes it,
and then he's like party is like that's it at
the beginning of a great career. He's like, see you later,
which again then led to say I'm walking down the
halls of Kinlean moving home. And one of the best
parts the bus about shooting the bus is it the
(20:24):
funniest thing ever? Did you guys take a ton of
pictures in front of it?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I did. There's pictures of me and Leah like mounting
the bush.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I think it was huge right, like photo is really big.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's it is the whole side of a bus. It
was a real bus and it was fully wrapped in
a naked cord.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, there's the budget for the episode.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It was unreal, it felt very famous. It was cool.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I was just thinking about Cord in that episode because
you know, he used to get so worried about having
to take your shirt off. I know I in that
that shot he had to take a shirt off a bunch.
But go Sam, go Courd, Go Mercedes, And that leads
us to literally the end of the episode. So that's
the end of season five. I'm just kidding. Blaine and
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Kurt are also in this episode, and they still have
this storyline that's going on with Shirley McLain who's an
American treasurer and she is preparing for his showcase with June,
and Blaine is still pushing for for Kurt to be
able to be in the showcase. He has lied to
(21:33):
Kurt in past episodes about it, hoping that he says
to Kurt, hoping that he would it would have just
come true, right, that she would have changed her mind
and she would have pled in the show. Yeah, exactly.
But Kirk get's very upset and now he can't trust him. Now.
This one I felt was a little bit of a departure,
(21:54):
like from the Sam Sades of all, because.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
This felt very high school.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, it's like said, yeah, because Blaine is actually being
honest and saying like, I just didn't want to hurt
your feelings. I didn't know how to really go about this,
and Kirk Kirk could have not thrown a bag and
done the whole thing and said oh, okay, you know it.
Just it was like the whole thing felt a little
high school.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yes, totally. The point that I like that Kurt said
was like we've had like numerous lengthy conversations about this.
To be fair, I get you know, yeah, I get that,
like I can figure it out, It'll be fine. Yeah,
I get to have extensive conversations and plan that is dark.
(22:40):
But yeah. The reaction was like, this is not Sam Sades, No,
not at all. And Shearlan McClain is not having it,
and she's like you can like if you cross me,
you're going to be driftwood.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Which is kind of scary because like in our industry,
I do feel like you don't want to burn bridges.
You don't want anybody to blackmail you out of this
business where you'll never work again. Like that is something
that has happened in the past, has and will continue
to happen in our industry. And so I heard that
(23:18):
and I was like, oh, like it struck like a
weird chord for me. I was like, oh shit, he's
in with the wrong person.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Now, do you know what I mean? Yeah, she's old school,
but good for Blaine.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I mean, I was hoping that this is how it
would turn out, and that he would kind of go
rogue and invite Kurt to perform. So you guys were
all at this performance showcase. Where was this shot?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It was in the dance tune.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, oh okay, you were on set, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Fully, And that was the first time I saw Sherley
McLean and the number she comes and sits on my
lap and she would like sit on my lap and
we would talk and she was great. Remember, she was
so nice and like happy to be there and was
(24:06):
just working her butt off and.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I mean a true professional. Yeah, she's been there, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It also seemed like it was fun for her to
get like when is she going to get to do
musical numbers like this.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, musicals in general are few and far between, and
so for her to like be able to do that
in a few episodes, and they gave her numerous songs
as I should.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
No, I mean, come on, you have Schley McLain. Let's like,
let's do it, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So Blaine performs with June and then ends up, like
you said, calling Kurt over to do his last song,
his encore, which ends up being mostly Kurt and they
do American Boy, which there's a small part of me
I was a little jealous because Zach Woodley and I
(24:55):
had been trying to get that song onto the show
for years. Really it was Zach's idea, and Zach wanted
me to do it, and he had been pitching Ryan
for years and it never happened. And then it happened.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I mean, I have a compassion to make I love
that song. What there's something about it? Maybe it was
like it was really popular during the time of the show.
I was living over I wasn't living in Hollywood yet,
like where I was living at the time during season five,
but back like earlier, no, no, no, pre that like
(25:35):
like Lebra oh yeah, like Pilot, serious season one time
maybe season two that it's like sense memory for me
and I do not like that song at all, and
I could not listen to it. I do not like
(25:57):
that song, so it was hard for me. It's hard
for me to be a judge with this number because
it's one of my least favorite songs.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Ever, it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Wow we found something. We diver said, Oh yeah, that's
so funny. But anyway, more importantly, June ends up saying
that you know, coming around, and she dances in the
number and everybody joins in and she says that the
(26:30):
people love them together and it's all good, and I
I appreciate the Blain storyline of it all, where he
stands up for himself and he stands up for her
and he stands up for what he believes in. The
payoff wasn't as good for me like that. She just
(26:51):
was kind of like, oh, it's fine, like after the
whole thing, Kape, Yeah, it's exactly over multipleisodes and that's
how she gives in. I wasn't exactly what I was
hoping for, but like what, that's not really the point.
It's it's more about Blaine, you know what. I mean
than and Kurt.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
So and I will say, like right before this showcase,
Kurt and Blaine had another conversation that also sort of
redeemed the other conversation for me because it was the
mature conversation. Again, it was like, these kids are really
growing up, even if they don't react right in the beginning,
they come around and like saw the light and supported Blaine,
(27:34):
which then makes Blaine choose Kurt to come up and
sing with him, which then makes June see how great
they are together because they are like it was. It
was nice and agreed, and I thought they did a
great job performing American Boy.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
They did. They did.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
They did watching like Chris perform, this is one of
my favorite things, like when he does pop music.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah for sure. Okay, we've got Rachel and then I've
got some questions for you. But let's talk about Rachel. So,
Rachel is now working with the TV writer who's going
to write her show for the untitled Rachel Barry Project,
(28:22):
and it's Kristin Shaw.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Also, you know, sam My producer pointed out because in
the beginning of this episode, they're all waiting for this
writer to show up at Monday night dinner and she
was like Monday night dinner being the most consistent plotline
of the season.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That's very good, very good. They're waiting for her to
come and she shows up and it is Kristin Shall,
and boyle, boy, does she give us a show? I
what Kristin Shall is like unhinged in this episode, out
of her mind.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I was so intimidated.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I would have been very intimidate.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It was because she came in like Lini's did, where
she was ready that character immediately, and because I didn't
know her, we didn't know her. It's that thing of
like is she is this real or not?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Right? So what was it like working with her? Was
she nice?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
So nice? So cool? Was so just like having a blast,
This is easy for her? It felt like, yeah, like
she would just in her element and it was It's
so nice when you have people on to the show
that ignite your like creative fire and you can just
sort of witness them. That's what it felt like, Like
(29:44):
I'm just watching her do this thing and it's phenomenal,
Like she's a full wrecking ball this entire episode.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
It's a really good That was a really good comparison
with Leni's because like they're just so one of a kind, yeah,
and so good at what they do and so uninhibited
and just like very dedicated and committed to what they're doing,
and like it's just it works because they believe it,
so you believe it, you.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Know, yes. And the thing about her too, I believe
she also improved some things. Oh, I was directing, so
I think she was allowed to, like you have a
master at comedy. Here go for a girl, like that
moment where she's underneath the table and then to the
left and Britney's there just like admiring her. It's so good,
(30:37):
so good, And that whole little bit at the end
I think was them just improving when she's like, I
also have a cat in my pants.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It's so good. The two of them, they're like mind meld,
you know, so so good.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And how she's the only one like Brittany's the only
one who gets her and loves her and everyone else
it's like a little like this lady's crazy and again
stepping in what Kirk got mad last episode because he's
always been there for Rachel, and here he is again
there for Rachel being like, you guys, lady is writing
a pilot that has nothing to do with you, Like
this is not about you. And if you're going to
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go and blow up your whole Broadway career, like make
sure it's worth it and make sure it represents you.
And when she was running, when we sat down to
do I love filming these scenes. By the way, I
bat when we did sort of the table reads, actually
reading from the scripts slain and hashtag hashtag, hashtag hashtag,
(31:36):
it was so much fun. And getting to do that
little like rave scene and cut the cameras what is
going on here? So those were all so much fun
to do.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's really yeah, it felt like it felt fun. It
just this episode was all the things aside that I
have my qualms with it, Like it felt relaxed in
some way. It did, and like everybody felt relaxed in it.
(32:11):
And I think that was the energy of the New
York spinoff that I my spin off that I loved
so much, was like it wasn't that constant pace at
McKinley that you feel is like at one hundred, Like
I feel like we were at a cool sixty five
seventy and like we re rode on that for like
this whole rest of this season, which I was like,
(32:32):
all about.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Maybe that's why we only had one point eight million viewers.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
People are like, this isn't Glee, this is a different show. Funny,
but she so she pushes, Rachel pushes back, and then
she performs for Kristen and she does She's like, I
don't know how to write it. I don't know how
to tell you, but I know how. I like what
it is, but I know what it wanted, what I
(32:57):
wanted to feel like. And then she does Glitter in
the Air by Pink, which one of Pig's best songs,
I think, and and and she does a beautiful job
at it, like you know, it's a season finale, give
Rachel her number. Yeah, so I was here for that
for sure. And then she she decides to rewrite it.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
And which I did not think was going to happen.
I obviously did not remember what happened, but I thought
she was going to go up there and like turn
the mike off.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Oh interesting, you know, okay, okay uh. And then the
they she rewrites it, and Rachel loves it and she's
really happy with it and she feels like it's her
and so they submit it to the network and then
we get a call at the end that the network
loves it and she's going to La to shoot it
(33:44):
and she's going to do a pilot. And again, I
just even for the two episode cut aside, Like she says,
I thought Fanny Brice was my role in my dream role,
but this is my dream And I'm like, but what
do you mean, Like.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Because you're playing yourself, but what do you.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Mean she just wrote it, And like, you've never spoken
of LA, you never spoke about being TV. She just
talked about a star, So to be fair, she could
be talking about that.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
She just wants to be famous.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
It just felt a little unjustified to me that she's like,
this is my dream now she just got it.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, Broadway, Yeah, I don't like this storyline. I don't
buy this storyline. And also I think having two less
episodes did really impact all of these storylines.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Totally felt very rushed.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yes, where we're not getting some of the payoff, Like
maybe there would have been more time to have Shirley
McLain have a bad reaction and you could have that
sort of moment and this moment play out a little longer.
So it was that part of this episode was a
little hard to give us. Agreed, but I guess she's
(35:02):
going to La because what happens is then we actually
have this one moment at the end of the episode
that actually feels like a season finale, and it's POMPEII
and they're all outside to go see Sam's naked body
on a bus YEP and then Sam says he's gonna
go back to Ohio to be around his people. Mercedes
(35:24):
is going on tour, Rachel's going to LA, right, so
everybody's sort of breaking up again, and it's this. It
is this really nice moment of reflection about Hey, everyone,
remember what this season started off with, like in how
Far We've Come? Yeah, and I think this was a
(35:48):
great song choice. And do you not think so?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
No? I do think it was a good song choice.
I think the problem with this one. Yeah, I just
had a lot of problems with this episode. I'm sorry,
is that I love this song so much.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Oh you and I were in deep for best deals
Like this album changed our life.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It really did it raise me. And I feel very
strongly about the Beth Steele's voice on this, and I
feel very strongly about the original song. Yes, and to
do it, I'm happy they did it. I'm happy the exposure. God,
I'm happy that it did feel It's a good, feel
(36:37):
good song right for a finale. So yeah, but it
was very hard for me to separate and listen to
this ongly when I was so into this song, so
into this song.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I don't disagree. It's one of the ones that sound
a little kids bop beat Timmy.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's just not the original. It's just not
the original.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
And I, you know, I think, like I don't love
when we just do a straight cover of the song. However,
watching it in context with the story and having Rachel
be the focal point of it, Yeah, and like having
Sam's moment at McKinley, Yeah, like the lyrics of like
(37:25):
how am I going to be an optimist about this?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Close your eyes? Like, yeah, it's very nostalgic because her
whole speech going into this also was like reflective of
everything we've been through and how like next season is
going to be so different, and like.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It moves who chapter, All the shots move really nicely.
There's like it's a big group number, like people are
following her down the street. I get it. I will
say I also watched this in two halves the episode,
and that may have disrupted the stream of consciousness.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I don't know. This episode's a little disjointed, so I
don't know if that really matters.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I just like maybe POMPEII would have hit had a
little bit of a better impact on me, had I
watched all the way through. But it was just I
don't know it was I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
If it would have because I like, this sort of
number comes out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
So yeah, I get that too, and.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I'm grateful for it. I do like it because I'm like, ah,
this is a season finale. Yeah yeah, yeah, butting a
button on it and.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
But it felt it was just like dropped it.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yes, but it was it was what I needed because
the rest of the episode didn't feel like a finale,
and I was like, Okay, we're at least getting this,
and like this feels good and.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I guess so I'm not to hate on it. I
don't want. I don't want to hate on it too much.
I just there's like I'm being like picky now. I
was like this song because of song and.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
What happened all the time. I think for people, people
have their favorite songs and you know, music, they love
and artists they love, and for those of us on
the show, when those songs were get chosen, you'd be like, oh,
I hope this version is like of the caliber I
want to hear.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, And obviously it's not up to us, and people
have different tastes and so and you know how the
song is going to be used until it's used, and
all those things come into play where you and I
are biased because we love this album and this song.
So I feel better about it now watching it. I
(39:27):
do remember when I heard the version, I was like,
all right, it's not great, but it works so well
it I get it.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Rachel at the end also like, it really feels like
I have goosebumps talking about it. Leah, really it felt
like she was really having a reflective moment. Yes, I
mean and then she looks at the camera. That was
(40:01):
crazy and what was that?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
She breaks the fourth wall.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
My reaction at first was like, why are we doing that?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
It's just we've never done it before, so I have
to know why, you know what I mean, Like why?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Well, to me, it was also like it was more
than just so this show obviously became like a cultural phenomenon,
which is why we're here doing this. And Corey passing
away was obviously a gigantic thing that impacted right more
than just us who were on the show, but also
(40:48):
all the people who watch it, and you know they
didn't watch it. It was in the news everywhere, and
this number, to me is mostly about how far Rachel
has come this season.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Therefore how much Leah has gone through this season, and
her looking down the camera felt more like it was
like something for the audience, whether it was Rachel or
whether it was Leah, but it was like this Glee
fam like.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Okay, well, the Reddit people are in agreeance with you.
It's very similar to what you're saying, like people saying
like it was a goodbye remembering Corey. It was kind
of like a Leah Cory Finn moment, but it was
also a Leah Rachel moment saying like, you know, we're
kind of looking because she's looking up first right into
the sky and then she looks at the camera and
it was like like that a nod that she was
(41:45):
going to be okay, and also like a goodbye to
him kind of. So it's very similar in the what
you took from it.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I that's how I felt. It felt like, yeah, we
got this. I acknowledge you, Like we're all in this together,
so yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah that I get I I just I didn't hate it.
It wasn't something that I was like, no, they shouldn't
have done that, and I'm you know, I just we've
never done it before. It's yeah, a little bit. It
was like, wait a second, but that's not the end
(42:20):
of the show. Like I would have even been less
surprised if it was like the end of the show,
but it wasn't. So it was just so interesting for
anybody to break the fourth wall like that.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Well, I mean that's our season five.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Oh my god, we did it. That is crazy. You
know what. Kudos to everybody really, like the writers, the creators,
the producers, the our whole crew, our cast, like everybody
who helped us and we all like getting through this
season together, like that was insane.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
All the staff at Fox who yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Like we've you. We talked to Tracy from PR and
like just everybody was so affected by and impacted by
Corey and then the passing of and the thin of
it all that like it just was you know what
we did it. We did that. That's a true accomplishment
in so many ways. So congratulations to everybody there, and
(43:19):
thanks for getting through this season with this. You guys, So.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Let's create some performances. Shaking my head all Brittany came
back and they're.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Like, you, like, go for it to hoever, go for
it all of me.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
A B plus B plus. Okay, just felt like one
of those things of like, why is this happening right now? No,
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I get it. Girls on Film B B plus plus. Yeah,
good Her in the Air A plus plus, No time
at all. Yeah, American Boy A B. Pompeii A A minus.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
James a hater, cringe moments, Tardy takes some cringe moments.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
The model like yeah, and also the like coming at
Sam like that. It was just very cringey. Okay, dance move,
I mean, shad shaking my head. I could watch other
we could watch other dance. We could watch her literally
shimmy and we'd watch it all day, you know what
I mean. Like she's just that good best song Glitter
(44:55):
in the Air, Yeah, I think so, mm hmm in
the Air Pompeii, Yeah, you're not going to say, Pompei, no,
but I get it. It's like the performance and only
get it. No, we're doing song okay, sorry song glitter
glitter in the air. Yes, performance prop Oh are you
kidding me? There's only one answer for the bus.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
The absolutely okay, obviously best line.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
I would like to propose the lyrics to shaking my
head and and then the hold the whole script like
the the first version of the Rachel Berry script. Absolutely,
just like the real Zingers there.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Let's keep sleeping together and start an art gallery and
the performance based downstairs.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Oh man, performance m VP, I mean all of you
guys for them, like the New York crew Rachel Yeah,
and Sam Sades oh yeah. Honorable mention to Sam Sades. Yeah,
this whole season really, Sades. What a weird, crazy thing
(46:14):
to think like season five? Early season five was still
like the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I've had that thought so many times the past, like
two weeks of is this all the same season?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
I know, That's what I'm saying. Like it was a
long one. It was a long one for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
We really came far.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
It was a journey.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
So much happened. Okay, so ship we found on TikTok
Anthony says Lee was so crazy. This doesn't even begin
to cover it. Why were they writing already like it
was black slash by racial and all the songs the
(46:55):
video is very funny. Oh my god, the comments are
honestly insane. Someone says, not too much on my black King.
He was transracial, Please respect his culture, mind you. That's
the more normal stuff going on on Glee Dying. Someone wrote,
(47:17):
who dis beat? Someone said, okay, but did he disappoint?
Absolutely not? Remember the airography and they gave him dreads.
I can't remember when mister Shute told him they're all
minorities because they're part of the Glee club. Oh my god,
there was no way these writers were so sober writing
(47:39):
any of these episodes.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
I'm nostalgic for those early episodes now again.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Whenever he'd throw his hand up like a black mother,
someone wrote, he just lights kin.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Someone wrote, I've heard it's just because that's how Kevin
McHale actually talks, because he grew up with a lot
of black people.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
No, no, no, no, no, Black King. Stop n double
a c P line on him. You can't stop the.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
You people. The people are speaking, Kevin. They're speaking loudly
right now.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
I don't even know if I can comment on this.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
No, you can't. We're just not going to comment on
this at all.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know why I was written
like that. Yeah, that wasn't I appreciate it, though I
do appreciate.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
We love it.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
These comments are crazy fire God, that's my good chuckle
for the day. Jenna. Congratulations, we made it through this
season that we were dreading. Not because we were worried
that was bad, but the emotion heavy nights at the
beginning of this was rough. Thank you to all of
(49:07):
you who wrote in beforehand and throughout the season to
prep us for what was coming and really give you yeah,
because you gave us things to look forward to and
you're always right.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
So we did.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Wrapped the season up in the next couple of weeks.
We have some more exciting things planned and some exciting
you know how, you know how we do.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
We're getting ready. We're getting ready for the final.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Down and that's what you really miss see us season five,
Aglee bye, thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram
at and that's what you really miss pod. Make sure
to write us a review and leave us five stars,
see you next time.
And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Podcast Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast?
Season five finale ish how did we get here? Well?
How did we get here? Number one? Also? Was that
a finale of a season? I'm so mean, I'm so mean. Look,
(00:30):
we can't love. You can't win them.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
All, you can't. I think there's a couple of things
contextually we have to bring up. Let's remember what happened
at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Right right right ried we're kind kind to everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
There was a scramble, you know, to figure out what
we're going to do. Let's reorganize the show. The season
order was reduced from originally being twenty two episodes.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Seemingly later in the season, so they thought they had
more episodes to kind of wrap things up, and then
those got canned, and then it was wrapped things up quickly.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think it's a miracle anybody was able to do twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Episodes agreed after what happened, yes, yes, no, no, no, for.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Sure in every department and it's like, you know what,
we made it. We did it on the back. Great job.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Clap clap of the hands to everybody and AWESO.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So we had some great moments this season, still so,
and there's some great moments in this episode. Is it
a great episode?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
No, it's not a great episode.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's not, but there's some special moments. It definitely doesn't
feel like if anale until the very end of the episode.
But oka like, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Whatever, again, we're lots of grace.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Everyone's doing their rest.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Everyone's doing their rest all right. Season five, episode twenty,
the unentitled Rachel Barry Project. This aired on me thirteenth,
twenty fourteen. And like we said, this is the season
five season finale. There's a new song, number one's song, and.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's in this episode I Know All of Me by
John Legend. There's a new number one movie Neighbors. You
saw this, didn't you?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
No? No, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Jenna, what do you do for fun?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Why do you hate the movies?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I've never loved the movies, really, I never loved. It's
not like a pastime that I'm like I sat down
and watched a movie, Like I like movies. I like
going to movies, But it wasn't like a point in
my life where I was like I have to see
this movie, and I have to see this movie. There's
(02:49):
a few like I brought my son to a movie
theater to see Wicked when he was just born, So
I didn't know you.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Brought some movies.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You got headphones. I brought. He slapped the whole time.
It was great.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh, like a newborn to the theater because you had
to see Wicked.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I had to see Wicked. And he was like, there's
like a small window of time where like a newborn
will sleep just about anywhere. And he did sleep just
about everywhere that he knew you needed that he did anyway.
But yeah, I know, I don't. I don't make it
a point to see like, I.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Don't know how. I'm just learning this like into our friendship.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, well we can tell by the amount of movie
number one movies that I've seen. It was number one
and I had had If it's not a mar movie,
Jennas has not seen it, that is correct? Or uh,
Harry Potter, Harry Potter or Hunger Games, I love a trilogy? Okay?
Glee news This week. On May twelve, Fox announced Glee
season sixth, part of their twenty fifteen spring programming. The
(03:52):
Fox Upfronts and fan fronts in New York City. Obviously
we've gone to the upfronts for many, many years, but
this year Leah, Darren, Jane and Kord represented the show.
Darren performed and a couple of songs, and then of
course we have our EP that came out for this episode,
including the original song shaking My Head. And also, you guys,
(04:19):
it's March twentieth, which is what.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Ten years since the gleef finale aired.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
So, Kevin, we were not in the US when the
Glee finale aired.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
We were moved, Yes, I do.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
We were in Paris during a convention meaning wonderful fans,
that's right. And we had to go home and then
watch it afterwards.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yes, And I was not there for the rap party.
I flew out like the very next day, I think,
to start working on a show I was doing in
the UK, That's right. And I remember I woke up
the day before and I shot my show all day.
I had REP per usual. Then I got on that
train the next morning to meet up with you guys.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh my gosh, Kevin, that's crazy. Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Darren was there, Alexis was there, Becca.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Was there, Jacob was there.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It was a great time.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You had a wonderful time.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
We had a very good time. My friend Cleo came
and met up with us.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's right, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Brad Fauchuk directed this episode. Hodson wrote it. Sure the
McLean is back, surely is Yeah. And to start off
this song section, we get an original Mercedes track that
has the maybe the most insane lyrics.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Shaking my head, yeah, okay, all of Me performed by Blaine.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Girls on Film performed by Sam and Charlie Darling.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Glitter in the Air performer Rachel loved that song.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
No Time at All from Pippin performed by Blaine in June.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
American Boy performed by Blaine.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And Kurt, and Pompeii performed by Rachel, Kurt, Artie, Sam, Mercedes,
Blain and Brittany. Blaine had one, two, three, four songs
in this episode.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I am about to pick with some of these songs,
but we'll get there. Uh, not even a bone to pick,
It's just it's all over the place.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Okay, hold on, this is this first bun fact is dark.
So this episode was watched by one point eight seven
million viewers with a zero point six rating, a new
series low. This marks the first episode in the series
history to slip below two million.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's a dark difference from our super Bowl episode.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's dark, dark times. I think this is when I
stopped checking the ratings.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, you gotta you gotta save your sanity and your
mental health, protect yourself. This also makes it the lowest
rated season finale in the series.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
This is also the only season finale in which Emma, Mike, Santana, Tina,
and Will are absent.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Whoa and I had recorded songs and film scenes for
this episode, but they were cutting written out.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That's probably why Blaine and I had so many songs.
This is the third time season finale ends with the song,
the first being Journey to Regionals, the second being Goodbye.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And also considering that they had all this stuff for
Santana and then they had to like piece it all together.
That's this episode also feels like a little broken in
that way too, Like that makes sense, you.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Know, totally.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
This is the last New York centric episode. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, but when at the end of the episode, when
Sam was walking down those McKinley halls.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It got me, oh best part welcome back.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, I was ready. As much as I love the
New York of it all. Yeah, it's conflict. I'm always conflicted,
like we always talked about. This is the last episode
in here where the inside of the Bushwick apartment is shown. Wow,
the loft is gone.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
End of an era. Wow, that is so crazy?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Is that quick? It feels really quick, but it's been
two seasons, I.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Guess very quick. Right, Yeah, this is the last episode
of Mercedes is a guest character. She returns as a
main character in the next season. And she said, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Bump me back up, baby. This is the last episode
to credit Naya and Jenna, who were both absent as
series regulars, and season six they become guest stars.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Special guest stars.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
This is the last episode to credit Alex Jacob, Blake,
Melissa and Becca a series rags. In season six, Alex Jacob,
Becca Blake, they all become guest stars again.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
With twenty nine characters. This episode has the longest title
ever in the series.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
This is the fifth episode where all the main characters
present present you know what, it's felt the same, Okay,
This is the fifth episode where all the main characters
present in the episodes.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
How many evidence have we done it? This is the
first time that that's happened. That's pretty good. That was
full Ron Burgundy. Oh that really got me. I haven't
laughed that high in a really long time.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Still there, it is, still there. You got it. You're
gonna need that thing. Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh God. When recording Glitter in the Air, Leah tweeted
and thank you to Ryan and Brad letting her pick
and sing her favorite song of all time. That's sweet.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I didn't wow. Interesting, so Jenna, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Our last episode summary of the season. In the season
five finale, Rachel meets a famous television writer guest star
christ And Shawl, whose eccentric personality catches Rachel off guard. Meanwhile,
Sam and Mercedes deal with the pressure of commitment as
their careers take off, and the time has finally come
from Blaine's big showcase with June Dollaway guest stars Sheridan
(10:23):
McLain at Niata.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
All Right, where do we even begin.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Let's start with Sam sades our faves. So Mercedes is
about to head on tour, which love and doing a
full mall tour, like doing the grind, like.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Kather Morris is just in it.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, Brittany shows up and clearly there's some miscommunications. Santana's
doing a yeast stat commercial for.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
A week, which I also who does a commercial for
a week?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But then also she's gonna meet Mercedes and Reno. I
don't know, Okay, Santana's just you know, out being busy.
She's a and now she has Brittany as her backup dancer.
And can we talk about this performance of Shaking my Head?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
What do you think of it? Kevin?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
These feel like some great Ian lyrics talking about my Jesus,
Like why does Jesus look like a white guy when
he was born in Palestine? That ain't right? Shaking my Head?
I first of all, these melodies are great. That's catchy,
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you know what.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Amber's like little like original bops are all like underrated,
and I think that they all deserve more praise because
they are so funny and they are bops. What was
the other one? Else?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
To the now?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It did make me realize how different music has become.
What do you mean, like that style of song just
would not work today where that was a style even
though it's a fake song, right, I mean it's like
a comedic song. That style of song or music absolutely
(12:23):
would have worked in the twenty tens, early two thousands,
you know, and that sounds so unlike anything that's out
now pop wise, like that is so far from where
we are. It's almost like innocent, like hmm, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. I get what you're saying.
That's why I feel about there's like so much nostalgia
for like the music when we were growing up. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, but I don't know why that song in particular
really sort of like hit me in the face with
it of it's for me, you know, I think it's
easy for us as like early nineties sounded like this,
eighties sounded like this, late nineties sounded like this, early
two thousand sounded like this. Yeah, and then it starts
to get a little murky for me, like I don't
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really know. At twenty ten's what the sound is. Later
in twenty twenty year it I don't know. However, this
made me realize, like, oh, okay, I do hear the difference.
There is a distinction of where we are now. That's all.
That's just my stupid breath.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Fair enough, no, fair enough, you're the music guy, I
defer to you. So Sam has this audition for like
there's a debacle with the Treasure Trails advertising shoot, and
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so Sam has like a last minute audition and the
head of the modeling agency comes in and like she's
like looking for somebody who turns around the most, which
is like all it's like the casting couch, I feel like,
which is very doesn't work well anymore. The whole thing
(14:15):
was like very icky to me. Excuse but yes, keezy.
But Sam's auditioning with all these like incredible answers yes,
and hot people and they all look very sexual. It's
a very sexy number.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I did. What I did like though, is because I thought,
which ends up happening later in the episode, what happens
then was going to happen in the audition. Oh yeah,
I was like, oh this is nice. We're subverting the
expectation of she's like sell me sex. But it's only
just the sale the sex, right, Like we're just show
(14:52):
it to me, show it. Yeah. And I liked that
because like, oh, we're not doing that storyline.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
But then we did.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Then we did.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, no, you bet your bottom dollar. We did it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Come on, Annie, we.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Sam Sam does Girls on Film love that song. He
sounds great. Yeah, it's a fun number. It's you know,
did we need it? I don't know, love watching Cordy
do it, but why not? Yeah? No, it was fine.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Get those abs out core.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But Sam gets the job, and separately, everybody's telling both
Mercedes and Sam that they need to break up.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well Sam, we discover Sam has this rubber band that
uses to distract himself every time he's horny.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It's kind of like the the Mailman, Yeah exactly, and
so he's pent up and he's telling everybody about it,
which is why he ends up getting the job because
he is just exuding sex.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Sexual that's all he can think about, right, which it's
not happening for him in his relationship.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So they're telling him that he needs to he should,
he should break up with Mercedes, and.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I did enjoy that. It was like out of nowhere.
But you know, Mercedes walks into the loft and there's
three people waiting. Then Sam's with Already and Blaine, and
they're having like the boys conversation about you know, like
you don't have to be doing this right right, which
(16:36):
I love. Some of my favorite parts of the show
historically are you know, when the friends team up to
help the other friends have a little interventions.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That was the part of like in McKinley and in
like the this earlier season five, like Departure to New York.
I do feel like the boys and the girls got
a lot of like time, especially like in your episode,
and you know, it was like it's fun to see
everybody kind of splitting up and going into their own storylines.
(17:09):
So I do appreciate I see what you're saying there.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And I also like that there's been so much Sam
Sades lately because I feel like for both of them,
their relationships in the past have always been such like
a subplot. Yeah, and it's nice that they get sort
of the yeah star treatment for the relationship the back
half of the season.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I'm look, I'm just a little torn about San Sadies
because obviously, like we've done hot takes and we think
that Sam SDEs. I agree that Sam Sdi should have
been endgame. We love Sam Sydes. We think they have
the best chemistry. Their scenes are all really great. We
love their storylines. They're kind of like, I don't know,
(17:52):
they're grounded, and they're really good and ambering quarter amazing.
But I'm torn because I do feel like their storyline
and their breakup is valid, like it was very mature,
so much sure, and it's really again, I'll watch anything
that they do, but I was sad that that was
(18:12):
in the end of it, right, like that's Sam Sades
is done.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Now, is done done because as a viewer, now who's
in it? I'm hoping you know that you were left
with hope and this show so often couples come back together.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
So I don't know how many episodes left, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I know, but as you said a billion times, we
don't know what happens in season six, and.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So you're right, there's there's always a chance.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm just a little hopeful because they're so good and
I love their maturity. It was it was very reminiscent
of some of the conversations Santana and Brittany had during
their breakup.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Even like when Sam's like I cheated on you and
I did the thing and Mercy these response is so mature.
It's like, wow, yeah, exactly, she could have blown up
and gotten mad and done the whole thing. And you know.
But but again, I think the thing we love about
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them is that they it is it is nice to
see a mature, healthy relationship.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
There's growth there and you're seeing grow together. They're so different,
and I feel like the writers have done such a
good job of showing both of them growing in their
own ways together in New York. Think about how different
they seem now and grown up than they did at McKinley,
which wasn't that long ago, but it's still they still
(19:41):
it feels natural and organic because it still feels like
the Mercedes and Sam that we love.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
No totally.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So they decided to break up and Mercedes is going
to go on tour and maybe they're going to make it.
And then we find out Sam is on the side
of a bus.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
He mad it and then he leaves. He makes it,
and then he's like party is like that's it at
the beginning of a great career. He's like, see you later,
which again then led to say I'm walking down the
halls of Kinlean moving home. And one of the best
parts the bus about shooting the bus is it the
(20:24):
funniest thing ever? Did you guys take a ton of
pictures in front of it?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I did. There's pictures of me and Leah like mounting
the bush.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I think it was huge right, like photo is really big.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's it is the whole side of a bus. It
was a real bus and it was fully wrapped in
a naked cord.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, there's the budget for the episode.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It was unreal, it felt very famous. It was cool.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I was just thinking about Cord in that episode because
you know, he used to get so worried about having
to take your shirt off. I know I in that
that shot he had to take a shirt off a bunch.
But go Sam, go Courd, Go Mercedes, And that leads
us to literally the end of the episode. So that's
the end of season five. I'm just kidding. Blaine and
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Kurt are also in this episode, and they still have
this storyline that's going on with Shirley McLain who's an
American treasurer and she is preparing for his showcase with June,
and Blaine is still pushing for for Kurt to be
able to be in the showcase. He has lied to
(21:33):
Kurt in past episodes about it, hoping that he says
to Kurt, hoping that he would it would have just
come true, right, that she would have changed her mind
and she would have pled in the show. Yeah, exactly.
But Kirk get's very upset and now he can't trust him. Now.
This one I felt was a little bit of a departure,
(21:54):
like from the Sam Sades of all, because.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
This felt very high school.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, it's like said, yeah, because Blaine is actually being
honest and saying like, I just didn't want to hurt
your feelings. I didn't know how to really go about this,
and Kirk Kirk could have not thrown a bag and
done the whole thing and said oh, okay, you know it.
Just it was like the whole thing felt a little
high school.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yes, totally. The point that I like that Kurt said
was like we've had like numerous lengthy conversations about this.
To be fair, I get you know, yeah, I get that,
like I can figure it out, It'll be fine. Yeah,
I get to have extensive conversations and plan that is dark.
(22:40):
But yeah. The reaction was like, this is not Sam Sades, No,
not at all. And Shearlan McClain is not having it,
and she's like you can like if you cross me,
you're going to be driftwood.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Which is kind of scary because like in our industry,
I do feel like you don't want to burn bridges.
You don't want anybody to blackmail you out of this
business where you'll never work again. Like that is something
that has happened in the past, has and will continue
to happen in our industry. And so I heard that
(23:18):
and I was like, oh, like it struck like a
weird chord for me. I was like, oh shit, he's
in with the wrong person.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Now, do you know what I mean? Yeah, she's old school,
but good for Blaine.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I mean, I was hoping that this is how it
would turn out, and that he would kind of go
rogue and invite Kurt to perform. So you guys were
all at this performance showcase. Where was this shot?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It was in the dance tune.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, oh okay, you were on set, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Fully, And that was the first time I saw Sherley
McLean and the number she comes and sits on my
lap and she would like sit on my lap and
we would talk and she was great. Remember, she was
so nice and like happy to be there and was
(24:06):
just working her butt off and.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I mean a true professional. Yeah, she's been there, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It also seemed like it was fun for her to
get like when is she going to get to do
musical numbers like this.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, musicals in general are few and far between, and
so for her to like be able to do that
in a few episodes, and they gave her numerous songs
as I should.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
No, I mean, come on, you have Schley McLain. Let's like,
let's do it, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So Blaine performs with June and then ends up, like
you said, calling Kurt over to do his last song,
his encore, which ends up being mostly Kurt and they
do American Boy, which there's a small part of me
I was a little jealous because Zach Woodley and I
(24:55):
had been trying to get that song onto the show
for years. Really it was Zach's idea, and Zach wanted
me to do it, and he had been pitching Ryan
for years and it never happened. And then it happened.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I mean, I have a compassion to make I love
that song. What there's something about it? Maybe it was
like it was really popular during the time of the show.
I was living over I wasn't living in Hollywood yet,
like where I was living at the time during season five,
but back like earlier, no, no, no, pre that like
(25:35):
like Lebra oh yeah, like Pilot, serious season one time
maybe season two that it's like sense memory for me
and I do not like that song at all, and
I could not listen to it. I do not like
(25:57):
that song, so it was hard for me. It's hard
for me to be a judge with this number because
it's one of my least favorite songs.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Ever, it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Wow we found something. We diver said, Oh yeah, that's
so funny. But anyway, more importantly, June ends up saying
that you know, coming around, and she dances in the
number and everybody joins in and she says that the
(26:30):
people love them together and it's all good, and I
I appreciate the Blain storyline of it all, where he
stands up for himself and he stands up for her
and he stands up for what he believes in. The
payoff wasn't as good for me like that. She just
(26:51):
was kind of like, oh, it's fine, like after the
whole thing, Kape, Yeah, it's exactly over multipleisodes and that's
how she gives in. I wasn't exactly what I was
hoping for, but like what, that's not really the point.
It's it's more about Blaine, you know what. I mean
than and Kurt.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
So and I will say, like right before this showcase,
Kurt and Blaine had another conversation that also sort of
redeemed the other conversation for me because it was the
mature conversation. Again, it was like, these kids are really
growing up, even if they don't react right in the beginning,
they come around and like saw the light and supported Blaine,
(27:34):
which then makes Blaine choose Kurt to come up and
sing with him, which then makes June see how great
they are together because they are like it was. It
was nice and agreed, and I thought they did a
great job performing American Boy.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
They did. They did.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
They did watching like Chris perform, this is one of
my favorite things, like when he does pop music.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah for sure. Okay, we've got Rachel and then I've
got some questions for you. But let's talk about Rachel. So,
Rachel is now working with the TV writer who's going
to write her show for the untitled Rachel Barry Project,
(28:22):
and it's Kristin Shaw.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Also, you know, sam My producer pointed out because in
the beginning of this episode, they're all waiting for this
writer to show up at Monday night dinner and she
was like Monday night dinner being the most consistent plotline
of the season.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That's very good, very good. They're waiting for her to
come and she shows up and it is Kristin Shall,
and boyle, boy, does she give us a show? I
what Kristin Shall is like unhinged in this episode, out
of her mind.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I was so intimidated.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I would have been very intimidate.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It was because she came in like Lini's did, where
she was ready that character immediately, and because I didn't
know her, we didn't know her. It's that thing of
like is she is this real or not?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Right? So what was it like working with her? Was
she nice?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
So nice? So cool? Was so just like having a blast,
This is easy for her? It felt like, yeah, like
she would just in her element and it was It's
so nice when you have people on to the show
that ignite your like creative fire and you can just
sort of witness them. That's what it felt like, Like
(29:44):
I'm just watching her do this thing and it's phenomenal,
Like she's a full wrecking ball this entire episode.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
It's a really good That was a really good comparison
with Leni's because like they're just so one of a kind, yeah,
and so good at what they do and so uninhibited
and just like very dedicated and committed to what they're doing,
and like it's just it works because they believe it,
so you believe it, you.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Know, yes. And the thing about her too, I believe
she also improved some things. Oh, I was directing, so
I think she was allowed to, like you have a
master at comedy. Here go for a girl, like that
moment where she's underneath the table and then to the
left and Britney's there just like admiring her. It's so good,
(30:37):
so good, And that whole little bit at the end
I think was them just improving when she's like, I
also have a cat in my pants.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It's so good. The two of them, they're like mind meld,
you know, so so good.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And how she's the only one like Brittany's the only
one who gets her and loves her and everyone else
it's like a little like this lady's crazy and again
stepping in what Kirk got mad last episode because he's
always been there for Rachel, and here he is again
there for Rachel being like, you guys, lady is writing
a pilot that has nothing to do with you, Like
this is not about you. And if you're going to
(31:11):
go and blow up your whole Broadway career, like make
sure it's worth it and make sure it represents you.
And when she was running, when we sat down to
do I love filming these scenes. By the way, I
bat when we did sort of the table reads, actually
reading from the scripts slain and hashtag hashtag, hashtag hashtag,
(31:36):
it was so much fun. And getting to do that
little like rave scene and cut the cameras what is
going on here? So those were all so much fun
to do.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's really yeah, it felt like it felt fun. It
just this episode was all the things aside that I
have my qualms with it, Like it felt relaxed in
some way. It did, and like everybody felt relaxed in it.
(32:11):
And I think that was the energy of the New
York spinoff that I my spin off that I loved
so much, was like it wasn't that constant pace at
McKinley that you feel is like at one hundred, Like
I feel like we were at a cool sixty five
seventy and like we re rode on that for like
this whole rest of this season, which I was like,
(32:32):
all about.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Maybe that's why we only had one point eight million viewers.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
People are like, this isn't Glee, this is a different show. Funny,
but she so she pushes, Rachel pushes back, and then
she performs for Kristen and she does She's like, I
don't know how to write it. I don't know how
to tell you, but I know how. I like what
it is, but I know what it wanted, what I
(32:57):
wanted to feel like. And then she does Glitter in
the Air by Pink, which one of Pig's best songs,
I think, and and and she does a beautiful job
at it, like you know, it's a season finale, give
Rachel her number. Yeah, so I was here for that
for sure. And then she she decides to rewrite it.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
And which I did not think was going to happen.
I obviously did not remember what happened, but I thought
she was going to go up there and like turn
the mike off.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Oh interesting, you know, okay, okay uh. And then the
they she rewrites it, and Rachel loves it and she's
really happy with it and she feels like it's her
and so they submit it to the network and then
we get a call at the end that the network
loves it and she's going to La to shoot it
(33:44):
and she's going to do a pilot. And again, I
just even for the two episode cut aside, Like she says,
I thought Fanny Brice was my role in my dream role,
but this is my dream And I'm like, but what
do you mean, Like.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Because you're playing yourself, but what do you.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Mean she just wrote it, And like, you've never spoken
of LA, you never spoke about being TV. She just
talked about a star, So to be fair, she could
be talking about that.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
She just wants to be famous.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
It just felt a little unjustified to me that she's like,
this is my dream now she just got it.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, Broadway, Yeah, I don't like this storyline. I don't
buy this storyline. And also I think having two less
episodes did really impact all of these storylines.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Totally felt very rushed.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yes, where we're not getting some of the payoff, Like
maybe there would have been more time to have Shirley
McLain have a bad reaction and you could have that
sort of moment and this moment play out a little longer.
So it was that part of this episode was a
little hard to give us. Agreed, but I guess she's
(35:02):
going to La because what happens is then we actually
have this one moment at the end of the episode
that actually feels like a season finale, and it's POMPEII
and they're all outside to go see Sam's naked body
on a bus YEP and then Sam says he's gonna
go back to Ohio to be around his people. Mercedes
(35:24):
is going on tour, Rachel's going to LA, right, so
everybody's sort of breaking up again, and it's this. It
is this really nice moment of reflection about Hey, everyone,
remember what this season started off with, like in how
Far We've Come? Yeah, and I think this was a
(35:48):
great song choice. And do you not think so?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
No? I do think it was a good song choice.
I think the problem with this one. Yeah, I just
had a lot of problems with this episode. I'm sorry,
is that I love this song so much.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Oh you and I were in deep for best deals
Like this album changed our life.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It really did it raise me. And I feel very
strongly about the Beth Steele's voice on this, and I
feel very strongly about the original song. Yes, and to
do it, I'm happy they did it. I'm happy the exposure. God,
I'm happy that it did feel It's a good, feel
(36:37):
good song right for a finale. So yeah, but it
was very hard for me to separate and listen to
this ongly when I was so into this song, so
into this song.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I don't disagree. It's one of the ones that sound
a little kids bop beat Timmy.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's just not the original. It's just not
the original.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
And I, you know, I think, like I don't love
when we just do a straight cover of the song. However,
watching it in context with the story and having Rachel
be the focal point of it, Yeah, and like having
Sam's moment at McKinley, Yeah, like the lyrics of like
(37:25):
how am I going to be an optimist about this?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Close your eyes? Like, yeah, it's very nostalgic because her
whole speech going into this also was like reflective of
everything we've been through and how like next season is
going to be so different, and like.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It moves who chapter, All the shots move really nicely.
There's like it's a big group number, like people are
following her down the street. I get it. I will
say I also watched this in two halves the episode,
and that may have disrupted the stream of consciousness.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I don't know. This episode's a little disjointed, so I
don't know if that really matters.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I just like maybe POMPEII would have hit had a
little bit of a better impact on me, had I
watched all the way through. But it was just I
don't know it was I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
If it would have because I like, this sort of
number comes out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
So yeah, I get that too, and.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I'm grateful for it. I do like it because I'm like, ah,
this is a season finale. Yeah yeah, yeah, butting a
button on it and.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
But it felt it was just like dropped it.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yes, but it was it was what I needed because
the rest of the episode didn't feel like a finale,
and I was like, Okay, we're at least getting this,
and like this feels good and.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I guess so I'm not to hate on it. I
don't want. I don't want to hate on it too much.
I just there's like I'm being like picky now. I
was like this song because of song and.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
What happened all the time. I think for people, people
have their favorite songs and you know, music, they love
and artists they love, and for those of us on
the show, when those songs were get chosen, you'd be like, oh,
I hope this version is like of the caliber I
want to hear.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, And obviously it's not up to us, and people
have different tastes and so and you know how the
song is going to be used until it's used, and
all those things come into play where you and I
are biased because we love this album and this song.
So I feel better about it now watching it. I
(39:27):
do remember when I heard the version, I was like,
all right, it's not great, but it works so well
it I get it.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Rachel at the end also like, it really feels like
I have goosebumps talking about it. Leah, really it felt
like she was really having a reflective moment. Yes, I
mean and then she looks at the camera. That was
(40:01):
crazy and what was that?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
She breaks the fourth wall.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
My reaction at first was like, why are we doing that?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
It's just we've never done it before, so I have
to know why, you know what I mean, Like why?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Well, to me, it was also like it was more
than just so this show obviously became like a cultural phenomenon,
which is why we're here doing this. And Corey passing
away was obviously a gigantic thing that impacted right more
than just us who were on the show, but also
(40:48):
all the people who watch it, and you know they
didn't watch it. It was in the news everywhere, and
this number, to me is mostly about how far Rachel
has come this season.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Therefore how much Leah has gone through this season, and
her looking down the camera felt more like it was
like something for the audience, whether it was Rachel or
whether it was Leah, but it was like this Glee
fam like.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Okay, well, the Reddit people are in agreeance with you.
It's very similar to what you're saying, like people saying
like it was a goodbye remembering Corey. It was kind
of like a Leah Cory Finn moment, but it was
also a Leah Rachel moment saying like, you know, we're
kind of looking because she's looking up first right into
the sky and then she looks at the camera and
it was like like that a nod that she was
(41:45):
going to be okay, and also like a goodbye to
him kind of. So it's very similar in the what
you took from it.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I that's how I felt. It felt like, yeah, we
got this. I acknowledge you, Like we're all in this together,
so yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah that I get I I just I didn't hate it.
It wasn't something that I was like, no, they shouldn't
have done that, and I'm you know, I just we've
never done it before. It's yeah, a little bit. It
was like, wait a second, but that's not the end
(42:20):
of the show. Like I would have even been less
surprised if it was like the end of the show,
but it wasn't. So it was just so interesting for
anybody to break the fourth wall like that.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Well, I mean that's our season five.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Oh my god, we did it. That is crazy. You
know what. Kudos to everybody really, like the writers, the creators,
the producers, the our whole crew, our cast, like everybody
who helped us and we all like getting through this
season together, like that was insane.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
All the staff at Fox who yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Like we've you. We talked to Tracy from PR and
like just everybody was so affected by and impacted by
Corey and then the passing of and the thin of
it all that like it just was you know what
we did it. We did that. That's a true accomplishment
in so many ways. So congratulations to everybody there, and
(43:19):
thanks for getting through this season with this. You guys, So.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Let's create some performances. Shaking my head all Brittany came
back and they're.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Like, you, like, go for it to hoever, go for
it all of me.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
A B plus B plus. Okay, just felt like one
of those things of like, why is this happening right now? No,
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I get it. Girls on Film B B plus plus. Yeah,
good Her in the Air A plus plus, No time
at all. Yeah, American Boy A B. Pompeii A A minus.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
James a hater, cringe moments, Tardy takes some cringe moments.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
The model like yeah, and also the like coming at
Sam like that. It was just very cringey. Okay, dance move,
I mean, shad shaking my head. I could watch other
we could watch other dance. We could watch her literally
shimmy and we'd watch it all day, you know what
I mean. Like she's just that good best song Glitter
(44:55):
in the Air, Yeah, I think so, mm hmm in
the Air Pompeii, Yeah, you're not going to say, Pompei, no,
but I get it. It's like the performance and only
get it. No, we're doing song okay, sorry song glitter
glitter in the air. Yes, performance prop Oh are you
kidding me? There's only one answer for the bus.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
The absolutely okay, obviously best line.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
I would like to propose the lyrics to shaking my
head and and then the hold the whole script like
the the first version of the Rachel Berry script. Absolutely,
just like the real Zingers there.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Let's keep sleeping together and start an art gallery and
the performance based downstairs.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Oh man, performance m VP, I mean all of you
guys for them, like the New York crew Rachel Yeah,
and Sam Sades oh yeah. Honorable mention to Sam Sades. Yeah,
this whole season really, Sades. What a weird, crazy thing
(46:14):
to think like season five? Early season five was still
like the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I've had that thought so many times the past, like
two weeks of is this all the same season?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
I know, That's what I'm saying. Like it was a
long one. It was a long one for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
We really came far.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
It was a journey.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
So much happened. Okay, so ship we found on TikTok
Anthony says Lee was so crazy. This doesn't even begin
to cover it. Why were they writing already like it
was black slash by racial and all the songs the
(46:55):
video is very funny. Oh my god, the comments are
honestly insane. Someone says, not too much on my black King.
He was transracial, Please respect his culture, mind you. That's
the more normal stuff going on on Glee Dying. Someone wrote,
(47:17):
who dis beat? Someone said, okay, but did he disappoint?
Absolutely not? Remember the airography and they gave him dreads.
I can't remember when mister Shute told him they're all
minorities because they're part of the Glee club. Oh my god,
there was no way these writers were so sober writing
(47:39):
any of these episodes.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
I'm nostalgic for those early episodes now again.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Whenever he'd throw his hand up like a black mother,
someone wrote, he just lights kin.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Someone wrote, I've heard it's just because that's how Kevin
McHale actually talks, because he grew up with a lot
of black people.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
No, no, no, no, no, Black King. Stop n double
a c P line on him. You can't stop the.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
You people. The people are speaking, Kevin. They're speaking loudly
right now.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
I don't even know if I can comment on this.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
No, you can't. We're just not going to comment on
this at all.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know why I was written
like that. Yeah, that wasn't I appreciate it, though I
do appreciate.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
We love it.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
These comments are crazy fire God, that's my good chuckle
for the day. Jenna. Congratulations, we made it through this
season that we were dreading. Not because we were worried
that was bad, but the emotion heavy nights at the
beginning of this was rough. Thank you to all of
(49:07):
you who wrote in beforehand and throughout the season to
prep us for what was coming and really give you yeah,
because you gave us things to look forward to and
you're always right.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
So we did.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Wrapped the season up in the next couple of weeks.
We have some more exciting things planned and some exciting
you know how, you know how we do.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
We're getting ready. We're getting ready for the final.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Down and that's what you really miss see us season five,
Aglee bye, thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram
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Jenna Ushkowitz
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