Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast
Hot Takes, Hot Takes, Get you Hot Takes. It's Hot Takes, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I would like to start off this round of hot Takes,
and we're joined by Telly again.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hello, Tech, you're rid of me?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Like Herb's back back back again.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Artie's number one defense lawyer, Alexa has given us a
voice message, and I would like to start off this
Hot Takes by.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Listening to that.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Hi, Jenna and Kevin, it's Alexa, your local Arty defense attorney,
here to clock in for my shift at the Hot
Take Factory. And to nobody's surprise, my hot take that
I come armed with is that Artie was not as
bad as some fans, including you, Kevin, make him out
to be. Okay, I said my piece a little bit
(00:55):
on your podcast last year when I was a guest.
But we're circling back, okay, because I think it needs
another I think we need another go at it. I
think that, like every other boy on this show, already
had his questionable moments. I'm not excusing that specifically. You
know what he said in Lights Out Powered Madonna.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Et cetera.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Okay, but I do think that there were other characters
on the show cough cough Finn who said equally bad,
if not worse things, just as often as already did.
But I just think that Finn was given the proper
screen time where we've got to see him kind of
close the loop on that, we got to see him apologize,
we got to see him learn from his mistakes, where
often for ARTI it was just kind of like brushed
(01:36):
under the rug, like shown as a one off comment
that he wasn't sorry for, didn't learn his lesson from,
et cetera. But I think that with the ample screen
time that he could have had, we could have seen
another side of Artie and Kevin Kevin McHale. On the
last Hot Takes episode, what really got my blood boiling, okay,
(01:59):
was when you were saying that you think that Artie would,
if he was a live boy in twenty twenty five,
would be participating in in cell behavior and listening to
podcasts with redacted naves that I will not say as
so as to not draw more attention to them, but
that just really appalled me because I think that if
we're considering Arty as upon in today's political climate. We
(02:23):
have to remember that he is part of a marginalized community. Okay,
he is affected by this legislation that is being passed
and or on the chopping block that was passed forty
years ago. Right, Section five oh four is on the
table once again to be repealed in some states, and
(02:45):
that would essentially strip Artie's ability to go to school
with his able bodied friends.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Right.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
So I don't think that ARTI is supporting those kinds
of political agendas, right just because he may. He wasn't
the best boyfriend when he was sixteen.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Are we following?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Are we following? Okay, I just wanted to say that I,
as the number one arety defender, maybe even the number
one already fin in the world. Really don't agree with that,
and I'm open to further discussion, but I just really
wanted to put that out there and get that off
my chest.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Thank you, Oh the defense rest Oh my god, keep
her on retainer.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Okay, yeah, I mean yeah, the Jerry's back and you win, right, beautiful,
that was really beautiful receipts Section five oh four.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And you're right he was. He was shitty when he
was sixteen, we all are. I think Alexa brings up
a good point screen with the screen time and the character, right,
So there's a lot of yeah, okay, so Finn's a lead, right,
so Finn's gonna get a certain amount of time, and
Arty is a supporting character. But also I think there's
(03:55):
there's something about Artie is also like a bit more
of like, I don't want to say it, like there's
a gimmick there, but I think they like there's a
there's a there's a deliberate choice to kind of like
up end stereotypes when it comes to Artie, right, because
he's this nerdy, disabled person, so you think that he's,
you know, I don't know, take whatever stereotypes you think
they're gonna be, but really it turns out that he's
(04:16):
this very self assured, engaging kind of person, right. So
I think that that is in the early years, I
think that's what was being played with with Artie was
that like, oh, he is actually kind of a hot
shot and he so so I can see where that
maybe gets a little muddled and where he maybe gets
a bad rap because he like was doing shitty things.
(04:38):
But I also think it was like in exploration of
being like of kind of breaking the mold of like
what a disabled nerdy character it must be on TV.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
That's right, justice for Artie. I mean Ryan always hated
the nerdy thing.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, and I think that, you know, and that that's
and that's another thing you kind of like realize in life,
is that like nerds aren't really nerds anyway, Like there's
no such like it's you.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Know, no maybe in school, but yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, yeah, definitely like not the worst, not the worst.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
No, go off, Alexa.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, go off again, Alexa. That was beautiful, Thank you, Alexa.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Pe Hudson's Miss July had no business teaching at Nihada.
She was not pushy. She was a bully.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh oh, she was a bit she was a bit bullyish. Yeah,
she was a bit bullish. I mean they tried to
like redeemer in the in the second half of her arc,
which I do think it worked, but because it's hard
to hate her, like she's so good, but I do
think that she was and we I think we've talked
(05:44):
about this, like there are theater teachers like that in
real life, like not that they're not bullies, but like
they are very tough.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
What's her backstory? Was she like a performer that didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yes, she went off on somebody because they had their
cell phone, and she like her career.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
That's funny, that's very I feel like that. Yes, definitely,
which is so funny because like you look at Patti
Lapo and it's like that only ever made her more loved.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Exactly, this is nice. Actually this isn't even like I
wouldn't consider it's a hot But Lauren was Puck's best relationship.
She challenged him and made him better.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Oh yeah, I always love those two together. Yeah. We
should have.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Seen Shelby and April sing a number together.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Absolutely, so yeah, I mean that would have been freakingda
I don't know how happened. I don't either. It was
so funny too at the time because I was I'm
such a theater kid, and it's like being there on
the set and it's like one week it's Kristin Chenowith
and the next week it's at and then and it's like,
can we all just can we just all do one together.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And everybody together?
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
A video village, you guys tell us stories about can you.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Just like get off on stage in perform for us altogether.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
That would have been such a dream. But there were
both such I mean real standout guest stars.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yes, definitely, camera totally.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I mean in the most episodes of any guest star uncle.
I think she had like really episodes. Yeah, of the
special guest stars.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Fun fact, I will say the story of the baby
storyline went on a little too long for my liking.
But okay, this is one Cheerios should have gone bring
it on style episode for one of their competitions.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, that would have been so cool, like a bottle
epic or not a bottle episode, but like a stand
a lot of episode even like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That's the spin off right there, that's your back door pilot.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
That is great, that's you who's going to type the scene?
It could still happen, I know, right.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Going along with that, somebody says that Sue Silvester was
a better teacher and at times a better person than
will she start.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
There's a lot of this that I love, all the
trans representation, but Coach Beast in season six felt forced them.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, yeah, there was that to me too. We need that,
you know, especially when and you know, I think that
there's no one trans experience. There's no one experience in
the world. So but especially because there was so much
we'd already spent time discussing beasts, beasts in her relationship
(08:35):
to her femininity and how she didn't feel and I
don't know, maybe it is linked, but for some it
did seem a little bit. It did seem a little
bit out of out of left field. But then again,
like who knows, you know, people are who they are
and they have their struggles until until they write what
they need to do.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So no, Michael Rachel did not need to throw the
temp tantrum when Santana got understudy. I'm glad you did
because I love those I think that I think I
would have. I would have been like, give me my
own thing, Well, you gotta stuff on my toes?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
My god, another one blam should have been explored. I
don't care. Sam was buying Quinn's a lesbian.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah. I love where the fandom has taken this whole,
Quinn Quinn's queerness thing.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
My hot take is that Jake's best song was Unchained Melody.
I listened to it. I mean it incredible.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Interesting. Mercedes singing Try Little Tenderness is not talked about enough.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I guess I think singing anything is not talked about it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
You know why you get we take her for granted
exactly because there's so many numbers, so many solos that
she has that you can put her in any situation,
any genre of music, and then it's just really so
good that we're used to it, especially now we're in
the back half of five, where like she's just getting
solos left and right, and like they're always good, but
because there's so many of them, it's.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Hard for them to stand out. They sort of run together.
But that's sort of fun. I mean another example of
art imitating life right where that's sort of like was
a lot of part of Mercedes storyline is that she
was kind of sidelined and taking advantage.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Of Yes, this is a hot take, The episode with
Roots before Branches should have been this yerarious finale.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh damn, is that the the end of three?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Three? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, that would have been a crazy series finale
that would have been an iconic.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Can you imagine that I ever saw Glee? I mean,
it would have come back, we would have had a reboot.
By now.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
My hot take is that season four is my fabe
season hot take. That's a I mean, i'd like there's
some good furs in that. Now there is that four.
We were pleasantly surprised by four. Yes, okay, that's.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Okay, so Glee hot take. Mister Shoe really is not
that like cringey or like weird. And sure, a lot
of his songs and a lot of his actions and
maybe like some of his stuff is like questionable now
in the year twenty twenty five, but I think he
(11:24):
has good intentions. And maybe that's just me being in
love with Matthew Morrison. But you know what, whatever, whatever,
it's fine, it's fine. But that's like everything on TikTok
nowadays is just like mister Shee needs to go to jail,
mister Shoe being super uncomfortable. I fully disagree, and I
support mister Shoe and all of his decisions.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Kind of sorry, I don't disagree with that, no, And
it's really it's it's consistency of character too, because like
Shoe is the kind of person that would be like I'm.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Gonna do the throng song for all your I guess
he does it for someone else, but you know, like
I think like he I think he's so excited about
what he's doing that like he's going to try to
relate to these kids no matter what. Yeah, And I
think he's also still playing out a bit of his
own high school thing, so I think he feels in
touch with that. But yeah, I think that there's always
(12:23):
that's the thing about mister Schuster, always the best of intentions.
I think like it becomes a plot point when he
debated a good path, you know, true, so it's like
there is never anything bad. I think it just comes
from like a yeah, just like an over excited attempt
to relate to these.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Kids, attempt being the key word. Let's do another one.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
My ottest take is that Will and Emma were totally
robbed Engley, And by that I mean that we barely
got to see any of them and they are like
the best characters in the whole show, like as a couple,
and I'm really sad about that, like the fact that
in season five they ended up becoming pregnant and then
(13:11):
we never saw her again. I was like, what is
up with that? It would have been so interesting to
see like a storyline with Emma being pregnant and like
battling with OCD at the same time, that would have
been really interesting. I just think they're amazing and they
barely got any screen time at all. So yeah, that's
(13:31):
my take.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I mean, I'll always take more Gama.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Oh yeah, I would love to see that, though the
pregnancy storyline would have been great.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I think that, you know, I think the balance of
Glee was at the beginning was between you know, mister
Schuster's personal life and then the school life of the
Glee quietly Glee Club. And it's just by season five
and had splintered into so many new environments and things,
and people had gone to so many levels that I
think like finding space for their domestic life in the
(14:05):
world of new kids at the school. We're now on Broadway,
we're now at Niata, we're now in film school. It's like,
I think it was just too much on the plate,
and it seems like maybe it was the easiest thing
to leave, because it's kind of feels like a nice
bo right, Like you can read it in that way.
They finally got together and they're going to have their
happy life together, and we can let them ride off
(14:28):
into the sunset and show up, you know, when they
need to show up. Rather than because you know, I
think exploring the focus of exploring. Now these young adults
are in the real world, Like I think that's where
the focus wanted to be. So these domestic storylines back
at home just didn't really match up.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I do remember like Will and Ms season one were
just oh.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Well and Cherry and all the terry of it all
too is like so integral to the show.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Oh, it was so good.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
And like I think it just outgrew that in a
way because the kid Yeah, a lot of ways, the
kids came up, right, they all everyone really stepped up
and became such real rat well rounded characters that it
was like, well we got to give we got to
give screen time to all of these people.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, no, for sure, Lly, thanks for joining us on AH,
it's a pleasure to have you.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Well, I'm so happy to be here and so happy
you guys are carrying the torch for greed, you know,
on on the podcast and always happy to join.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
You, always will always have you Lly, Love you guys,
and thank you guys for writing in and sharing your
hot takes. Some of us they are just that so
hot and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That's what's really missed thanks for listening, and follow us
on Instagram at and that's what you really miss pod.
Make sure to write us a review and leave us
five stars. See you next time.