September 1, 2025 • 38 mins
Glee took viewers on an emotional rollercoaster ride every week, but what feelings did it leave the cast and crew with?
It’s the question Kevin and Jenna wrap up every guest interview with: What is the feeling that Glee leaves you with? Now, they’re revisiting some of their favorite answers from cast and crew - including Matthew Morrison, Dianna Agron, Darren Criss, Amber Riley, Jane Lynch, and more.
And for the first time, they finally share their own answers too!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and that's what you really this podcast. Ah,
here we are. We're at the end of our GLEI era.
Oh and it feels appropriate, only appropriate to ask ourselves
and for me to ask you and you to ask me, Kevin,
what is the feeling that leaves you with? But first,
(00:32):
if you've listened to the show at all for the
last three years, which thank you for coming on this
journey with us, you've heard us ask all of our
Glee guests, what's the feeling that Lee leaves you with?
I think that we should revisit some of our favorite
responses from some of our past guests over the last
three years.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Beautiful, I love the sound of that.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Okay, great, So let's start with mister Schwe himself, Matthew Morrison.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It is so mixed. Don't have a single answer for
that question. Like I said, it was the highest of
highs and the lowest of lows. But when I look
back at it, and I'm so proud. I'm proud of
the impact that we had in society. I'm proud of
(01:21):
all the things that we did for so many communities
that were underserved or underrepresented. The show opened people's eyes
to diversity, to people who weren't the status quo, who
(01:42):
looked different, who acted different, And I feel.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Like it was the beginning of such a revolution.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
And for me, that is so beautiful to have been
at the kind of nucleus of that whole.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
You know thing.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
So I can't look back and and be you know,
I can complain about being overworked and you know.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
But just like the impact, that's the thing that will
stand the test of time. And for me, I think
that is, uh, that's a beautiful thing because most shows, most.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
TV shows do not have an impact.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
There.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
They're binge worthy, they're fun, they're you know, you might
learn something, but there's there are a few and far
between shows that have like a cultural impact and a
societal people. So I love being a part of that legacy.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
A very real answer. I love that. Yes, you know
it's a mixed bag, but ultimately, yes, we loved it.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
We love it.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Okay, Next, let's hear from Miss Mercedes Jones Amberiety.
Speaker 8 (02:54):
I would think besides, if I ever had a child.
That is the bosth amazing thing that I've done. Wow,
it was a roller coaster.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
It was.
Speaker 8 (03:05):
I grew up on that show. I became an adult
on that show. I became an artist on that show.
I just it really made me who I am. So
it leaves me with this just this fulfilling feeling. I
feel fulfilled that if I didn't do anything else in life,
I did that you did, and that's and.
Speaker 9 (03:26):
And that's what we did.
Speaker 8 (03:30):
Not a lot of people are going to be able
to say they can they've done that in their career.
Speaker 9 (03:33):
And we did everything.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Everything we got an Oprah.
Speaker 9 (03:38):
Oprah white House saying at the O two.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Singing the White House was one of the best moments
of my entire life.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
I mean it's we we done what we got to
do on that show. People just in their lifetime we
never get to experience. So I feel very fulfilled. I
can always look back and be like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Just like her, very epic.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I mean she's right, this is it was the
greatest thing that the incredible things we got to do
and that short amount of time is unreal.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, truly, it's the beginning of it all, you know. Yeah,
next we have the one and only Quinn for Bray
Diana Agron.
Speaker 10 (04:24):
I just have such tenderness for that show. It's a
really glee opened the doors to everything I've been able
to do in my creative life, absolutely everything. There would
be no path without that, and so it's just so
delicate and tender to me.
Speaker 9 (04:45):
It feels like the exact thing I.
Speaker 10 (04:49):
Was searching for given to me at such a young age.
To be able to do that show with all of
you and find our family in that is just it's joyful,
it's tender, it's gleeful, it's you know too. I just
(05:10):
I really and the older I get, the more kind
of like protective I feel about our show because I
think that there have been so many opportunities for people.
Speaker 9 (05:25):
I mean, we're the.
Speaker 10 (05:26):
Only ones that really know what it was like. And
I think that again, meeting people on the streets who
have to just light up and want to at the
base level just tell you that they love the show
or your character or whatever, and at a more in
depth level, really want to share with you as specific
(05:48):
reason why. And we had that then and the fact
that we still have that now. There aren't always experiences
that you have as a storyteller that dig so deep
into people's hearts. Yeah, and I I may not ever
have a project, a project that people feel that strongly
(06:09):
about that people lead to tether these these like heart
strings too and wrap them up tightly.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And I think that's phenomenal.
Speaker 10 (06:18):
I mean, if you can have one, two, three, but
if you if you have one that sits at the
top this with this amount of strength, yes, amazing because
some well don't have that. Imagine we're just doing other
projects that people are like. I love the stunts that
looked really hard, like yeah, and that's fun and thrilling too.
(06:41):
But like the emotional connection that people have the amount
of time somebody's come up to us with tears in
their eyes really.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Changed my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's wild to me.
Speaker 10 (06:54):
But I had that feeling that that's what the show
is going to be when I read that pilot.
Speaker 9 (06:58):
That pilot, I had Chris bumps when I finished.
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Speaker 2 (08:08):
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Speaker 9 (08:19):
It's the gift that.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Keeps on giving. I would say, I would say, for
lack of a better fucking answer, it's the cliche that
I don't want to deliver but fucking Glee. Man, It's
one of the great titles of the show.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
Like it.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
It is such a gleeful experience. I truly like, I
know there's a lot of like, you know, hairy things
that that people may think they know happened on the
show or project happened to the show. Maybe because I'm
a happy idiot, maybe because I can block out that stuff,
Maybe because that's just in the right place at the
right time. Maybe because I am late to the party,
Chris and I never was privy to a lot of
(08:52):
whatever difficulty or contention that may or may not have
existed between people and situations. I had an A plus
experience on that show. I loved every minute. I loved
every person truly, and anytime people ask me about Lee,
I'll go, like, you want the t I'll give you
the tea. I'll tell you everything that I know because
all of it.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
Is glowingly positive.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I have ary.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
I have a positive I have a positive, wonderful story
about every single person individually that if anybody ever said thing, well,
I don't know I heard this, I'd be like, tell
you what you want to hear a really really wonderful
story about that person, then I have them, I have
them all, I have all the receipts on great moments
with everybody, and uh yeah, Glee was a gleef was
so gleeful for me. It was a joy. It was
(09:34):
a joyous experience I've loved. I loved working on that show.
I had so much fun with you guys.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Did I believe you? Just a casual? Tony Ward went
on our show Big Deal. Okay, one of our favorite
guest stars of all time, our first big guest star.
We have the one, the only, Christie jennle with Well,
I'm not.
Speaker 13 (09:54):
Going to say it leads me with Glee because everybody said.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That, no, it's we haven't gotten.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Maybe once.
Speaker 13 (10:02):
Well, I mean I was going to say joy, but
Glee is it? Because Glee represents for me something I
didn't have in high school. We had madrig goals because
there was only five of us, and I always wanted
to have a glee club. And so for me getting
to do the show Glee and then go back to
my high school and see that they had developed a
(10:23):
glee club and now a thirty five people in it,
and that's because of the show. I don't even know
if I've ever gotten to tell Ryan Murphy that. But
the choir director said, it's because of the show Glee
that you were on that developed an interest.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I mean, this show changed choir.
Speaker 13 (10:42):
And so because I love young talent and I have
my camp and arch and education fund and all that
stuff to be it leaves me with pure joy. So Glee,
That's what it leaves me.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
And it still does.
Speaker 13 (10:53):
When the girls got Yesterdaight emo, so thank you.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
How sweet.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
It's so like the show is like for some people,
is like everything that you had been dreaming and never
got or had dreamed you would have, or things that
you didn't have.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I just you know, it's a dream scenario for like
some of its college years, some of its high school years.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And I'm telling you the thing, the fam that I
would have been, the fam that I would have been,
let's hear from.
Speaker 14 (11:25):
Jacob Artist, nostalgia for everything that you know we all
did together and how much fun we had. But then
I think also just like a celebration of you know,
people and singing and dancing and acting and the joy
that that can really bring. And you know, I think
(11:47):
this show in many ways is a lot about kind
of celebrating the underdog, and so I think it's like
a combination, a blender of just like all of those things,
you know, and I think there it's not a mistake.
The show was as explosive as it was because there
was some real magic to it that you guys put there.
(12:10):
I mean, obviously I came in like much later in
the picture, but you know what you guys did in
those first two seasons, it was not an accident. There
was something really special about it. It really resonated with people,
and like I said, everybody loved it and enjoyed it.
And it's not even once in a lifetime, maybe like
once every ten lifetimes, just sort of the stars.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Aligning and it was just really really really special.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
We have another favorite newbie up next. Thank you Jacob
for also coming on the show. Noah Guthrie aka Roderick.
Speaker 15 (12:45):
I would say, I mean mostly joyful. I would say,
you know, there's a the whole experience as a whole,
as a package, was a lot of learning and a
lot of ups and downs, but I think.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Overall, I was very grateful.
Speaker 15 (13:05):
I was very just every time I see the show,
like even you know, like preparing for this, I watched
like the first episode or two of that season, and
you know, even just seeing it just makes me smile,
you know, like it just it just brings this kind
of joyfulness to me. And I think some of that is,
(13:27):
you know, Glee in a lot of ways brought up
and handled a lot of the issues that I dealt
with in high school that just were not talked about.
And you know, obviously that it happened at a time
when we were all kind of experienced at a pretty
big cultural shift in the country, and I just think
(13:50):
that it brought a lot of things to light that
needed to be brought to light and talked about, and
that always makes me feel really happy. It just makes
me feel good to know that, you know, even you know,
obviously the show has its flaws like everything, but I
do think that it's like a net good and I
(14:12):
think that it really especially from my experience of talking
with fans of the show, because you know, like I'm
I'm a fan of the show because I was on
the show, right, more fans of the show because the
show like.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
Touched them, yeah, to their core.
Speaker 15 (14:28):
You know. I have people talk to me at shows
and stuff that are so deeply affected by Glee and
the kind of message that it brought that it was
like life changing for these people, and yeah, I don't know,
it's just really special to be a part of something
(14:48):
like that.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Getting The Big Guns co creator Brad Foulchuck, It's.
Speaker 16 (14:53):
As you said, it feels like family to me. It
just feels like like like we went through something together
that was so extraordinary and so bonding and wonderfully complicated
and wonderfully simple. And you know, the warmth I feel
when I see your guys faces, it just reminds me
(15:13):
of a time of life and I've an experience that
we had that that I feel.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Incredibly proud of and positive about.
Speaker 16 (15:22):
And the fact that you know, new generations of people
who are now you know, keep enjoying the show and
it sort of lives on in that way. It just
makes me feel proud as a legacy thing that we
did something that meant a lot to people, and what
it meant to us doing it is even a little
(15:43):
bit more special like it was it was. It was, Yeah,
it was a family and all it's ups and downs
and almost mostly ups. So that's the feeling.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I really appreciate that sentiment because that is what it
feels like it's family.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
If you're really lining into the obvious of like what
does it leave you with? Like it has left this
incredible mark, but an incredible group of people that like,
where would we beat without them?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
My family doesn't leave, Yes, you know, like you can't
get rid of family. Yeah, And for better or for worse,
we have built this incredibly profound relationship with one another
and that is the best thing for us, I think, personally,
to come out of it well.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
With the big guns here, we've got our fellow co
creator Ian Brennan.
Speaker 17 (16:35):
Just like an unbelievable sense of pride.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It's very I'm very, very proud of like the whole.
Speaker 10 (16:47):
Thing.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
It's it's a very. It feels like a child.
Speaker 17 (16:52):
It's like you know, once you have children, it doesn't
you like, no, that's a show and like child.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
But it was like it's like a very.
Speaker 17 (17:02):
It's it feels like an achievement, a creative achievement that
can never be taken away.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
And I think we we.
Speaker 17 (17:09):
So much of this industry and in like showbiz in
general is so ephemeral and can be so it's sort
of gone and it's like, what have you done for me?
Lately and it's like not another things that were so
important to you sort of like disappear.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
What's did you see? What's on now? Like well, like
look guess what.
Speaker 17 (17:32):
Where's just so not There's so few things that it's
like this show feels like, oh, it's I feel like
I wrote a book, Like there was a really good
book and it's like and every every junior high school
kid in seventh grade reads this book like it was
like it's it's just that you've like contributed to the
culture a bit or you're sort of like required reading
(17:55):
and that that is like a true.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
That's where the pride comes from. You're like, oh, we
did it, and like I did that.
Speaker 17 (18:05):
I did and I definitely take away from it. It's
a cool thing to sometime and again, like you guys
wouldn't experience this because people would already know you.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
But it is like occasionally.
Speaker 17 (18:16):
It's a fun thing to sometimes just drop if somebody
doesn't know you're just eating somebody or someone happens if
you're like you're.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Like abroad or whatever, and then h.
Speaker 17 (18:28):
Oh, I kind of kind of just work in TV,
like oh, anything I know about and then just like well,
Glee I'm like, oh did you write on that? Like no, no, no,
I created it and just to.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Be like and it's a dick move to do good
but as if you didn't just set up the whole
thing to like drop camera and it's that. It is
like there is like so all the strm and drong and.
Speaker 17 (18:54):
Like all the wildness of it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It just the work and the late nights and it
sucks up.
Speaker 18 (18:59):
It sucked up eight years of our life where it
was not really able to do anything else, like it
was like and and really to find took me away
from one career put me in another one.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Like it was very very impactful.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
So like it.
Speaker 17 (19:15):
That those moments are worth it when you can stand
back and be like, oh, but like we did that.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think that Ian was the first one to bring
out the Pride card. I think it was like the
first time we had heard that, but happy Pride, Happy Pride.
After Ian came on, as I guess we started hearing
Pride a lot more actually, so he started the trend.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
One of our favorite directors and people, Paris Barclay, I.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Would say, glee is when I think practically it's emotional.
That's the word I get so emotional that some shows
I feel, oh, that was stressful. Some shows I feel
that was hilarious. Is that's not too often for that,
But I feel very emotional about Glee, and I have
(20:06):
to say it's often tinged with sadness. It's sort of
like a youth, a period of longing for youth that
you can't get back, and sometimes saddeness. To me, I'll
be totally honest, because I sort of look at what's
transpired postly from Afar and I saw the Michelle and
Find a Girl last night and she was fantastic. I
(20:30):
realized that part of our family has kind of ruptured
around things that people did then, and that really makes
me sad. You know, I wish, I wish, I wish
I had to go to the festival. I wish there
were some more forgiveness in it. I think Ryan said
(20:51):
a great tone at the beginning of your podcast because
he was kind of owning up to his own mistakes
and kind of forgiving himself in a really beautiful way.
And I feel like I've definitely made mistakes, and I
certainly made more mistakes when I was the age that
you were in Lee, and I just wish that that
would rain. I wish that people would just let things
go and just hold on to the fact that there
(21:12):
was a beautiful, beautiful show that moved a lot of
people and talked about a lot of really important things.
I will never forget. It's also in Wheels when Sue
Sylvester brings in Lauren and that story that then becomes
a story with Robin. That story had a huge impact
on that community and people who love people who have
(21:33):
Down syndrome. That's really really emotional and powerful.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Kevin, you loved this interview with our incredible friend and
also the mastermind behind Glee's marketing campaigns, Joe Early. He
was the president of Marketing and Communications for Fox at
the time. And if you haven't heard that interview, also,
it's just so specific to the advertising and like how
(21:58):
the tone was set essentially to the masses. So Joe, really, I.
Speaker 19 (22:02):
Mean, it was just an absolute thrill ride from the beginning.
I am sort of like a chronically optimistic person, you know,
I walk on the sunny side of the street.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
But that show was so just personally meaningful.
Speaker 19 (22:21):
But I watched it. I watched it change lives. That
show literally we know has saved lives think about that,
wildly entertaining, hilarious, actually introduced music to generations in a
new way. I remember Dante knew that. Dante knew I
(22:43):
was like a fanatic, even though I was all cool
on the side and everything. He'd do that as a fact,
and he would share songs with me in advance, so
I would hear songs and not even have not even
have the scripts. And so I'd be playing it with
my daughter, who you guys, we're very kind to.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
You're like, why is this guy bringing his daughter to
the set? Because that was the only thing.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
You've ever about it made.
Speaker 19 (23:10):
She loved it too, And but we'd be in the
car listening to the Glee songs and then we'd be
driving and listening to whatever.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Aretha Franklin would come.
Speaker 19 (23:20):
On and she would say, oh, she's singing the Glee song,
and I was like, Wow, this show is just like
expanding people's understanding. So that's magical is also a good word.
But the first word that came to mine was thrilled,
Like just I loved everything about it, and I still
do and very proud of it. It's it's on Hulu,
(23:44):
it's on Disney Plus, it is for Everyone who's listening
obviously already knows that, but that was important.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
For us to make sure.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, I love him, I mean again in all departments,
like a thrill ride, a career highlight, for so many
different reasons. Okay, the unofficial thirteenth member of the Glee Club,
camera operator extraordinary, the man who had the steady cam
on him and all those musical numbers. Andrew Mitchell.
Speaker 20 (24:12):
Oh my gosh, can I go back to the who
is the lady who started it?
Speaker 15 (24:18):
It was.
Speaker 20 (24:20):
Here we go, Lillian badler By. It's very do yes,
we is about opening yourself up to joy.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Can I steal that?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
You can totally steal that.
Speaker 20 (24:31):
My memory is not very good, but I always remember
how I feel when I meet somebody, when I do
a project or something like that. I don't remember some
of the details, but I always remember how I feel.
And at the end of that show, it felt so good,
But then it also felt like this can't end right,
like I don't want this to go away.
Speaker 21 (24:52):
It was hard, right, wrong, It's hard but so worth it,
and most things that are worth it are hard to do.
So it was, you know, maybe like warmth, warmth in
my heart? Oh boy, and just a ton of good memories,
you know, because all the bad stuff is just like
I just remember that yeah stuff, you know totally.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
It was like we went to sunder camp together and
it lasted six.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Really long time. Yeah that's right, a really long, awesome
summer camp that you never want to end, right, Okay.
One of our more recent episodes and one of our
favorite episodes, and my brother actually wrote and texting him
was like, this one was so good. One of it's
it's one of our favorite people as well, Brad Beeker,
(25:37):
the director and executive producer.
Speaker 22 (25:40):
So many faks, but honestly, it's like pride.
Speaker 23 (25:49):
You know.
Speaker 22 (25:49):
It's like I just I'll always look back and I
feel so proud that I got to spend that time
with you, right, to spend that time with you know,
it was like it truly, you know, it defined my life.
(26:12):
You know, I learned so much. And it's like there
were horrible things and there were great things, yep, but
we were all in it together for better or worse,
you know. And when I look back, and you know,
(26:33):
it's like for all, for whatever whatever you thought or
whatever the it's like when you look back at what
we did, I'm just so proud of it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, you should be.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I mean, we all are now to bring it on home.
Sue Sylvester, herself, Jane Lynch.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
It was a well.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Moment in time. It was.
Speaker 23 (26:58):
It was one beautiful, perfect moment yep, where the everything
kind of it was kind of lightning and bottle. Yeah,
and I remember we knew we were breathing rarefied air. Yeah, yeah,
I remember Ryan saying that to us at some point.
You said, you know, the most important thing for you
(27:19):
guys to realize right now is that we are all
breathing rarefied air. This doesn't happen because of the impact
that the show had, right and.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
The good it had right, and boy, we could use.
Speaker 23 (27:31):
Something like it now where everybody It was kind of
a microcosm of the world, even for adults. It's like
the McKinley high being metaphor for the world where it's
cruel and he gets slush, he's in the face, and
there's groups and factions. Again it's each other. It's very tribal.
(27:51):
Then you get into that choir room and everybody's got
your back, and there's nothing more beautiful than raising your
voice in the song together and making a joyful noise.
It's where you do it together. It's where the football player,
uh and the kid and the little nerd in the
wheelchair can be palsed, where the gay kid can be
pals with the football player and the greaser. You know,
(28:14):
Mark Salling's character was could be so dark and yet
in that you know, when he was winning the same
thing with the guy, when he was with us, there
was something about him that was lighter.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's beautifully said.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, good one, that's really beautiful and true. Jane inform.
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Speaker 1 (29:08):
Okay, Kevin's it's the time, Jenna, It's time before we go.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Jenna, Oh my god, I need to ask you also,
I'm not one who asks people this. I would also
like to say shout out to you for creating this.
This was your idea this one. What is the feeling?
Speaker 19 (29:29):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yes, didn't you if I remember correctly, didn't you just
ask somebody that in like one of our first episodes, like, oh,
that's a good question, Jenna, and it stuck.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I actually don't know, And I don't want to take
credit for it because I don't know that it was mine.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It was yours. And so Jenna, I'm asking you, what
is the feeling that Glee leaves you with?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh my gosh, it's kind of hard to pick one
after hearing all of our incredible friends and family, like
one word. You know, friends and family have like kind
of given us all. But if I were to scrape
that all away and forget that we ever asked anybody,
(30:16):
I think if somebody asked me that question out like
for the first time, the truth is, I think I
would say, like extreme appreciation and deep appreciation for everything
that it has given me, because not only was it
(30:41):
so formative and shaped who I am today and shaped
how I approach things, how I approach friendships, how I
approach work, how I and then also how grateful I
am for the opportunities it granted for the people and
(31:06):
for the family, for all the doors it opened for
all the people I met. It really was just such
a an incredible experience, highs and lows, like no matter
what the challenges were, it's a part of me forever.
And so I think just extra deep gratitude and appreciation
(31:32):
for the gift that that it was and will continue
to be. I think I have this running joke.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
With my.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Team where I'm working, and uh, it's Glee. Glee is
the gift that keeps on giving for better, better for words,
But it's true, you know it is. It really is.
Just people are like, oh my god, I love that
show and just the new generations of people. I saw
(32:07):
my friend Daniel day Kim recently and he was like,
it was the first show that our son became like
so obsessed with and and like never turned off the
TV and you were just always in our living room
and like it's just so powerful. So I'm just I'm
extremely grateful. Kevin. What does the feeling that leaves you with.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I'd rather not say.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I think.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Pride and family are up there for sure, because I
really like, close my eyes and think about the experience
of the show. It's definitely family. Being on set with everybody,
every single day that experience, but I think, ultimately similar
(32:51):
to you, I feel just honored to have been like
a part of it. It feels like such a gift
and the fact that, echoing everything you just said, that
we got to experience so many ones in a lifetime
type things. You get to be on a show that
you love doing, you get to be on a show
(33:11):
that the crew loves doing. You get to be on
a show that means so much to people that we
could go on tour in different parts of the world
and they knew us and loved the show, and it
wasn't about any of us as real people. It was
about seeing those characters go through those experiences with that music,
(33:34):
what that meant to people, And it always felt so
much bigger than ourselves, yes, which was really special, And
I think we were all so young and green and
just happy to have a job that you can never
in your wildest dreams dream of anything like that happening.
And so I feel extremely honored to be cast on
the show, to have been able to meet the best
(33:58):
friends I'll ever have, and to you know, sort of
it was such a specific time in pop culture, and
having grown up obsessed with pop culture, it was so
strange and surreal to be a part of something that
was also pop culture at that moment and sort of
(34:21):
the ushering, you know, the end of one era, the
ushering end of another era, transitional period I think in
our culture and all that was happening at the same time,
and we got to experience that. And it's such a
gift now to be able to look back on it
with you and to watch it, to have new people
(34:41):
finding it. The music still is out there, the episodes
are still out there. So I'm just honored that. I'm
proud of the show. I'm never embarrassed by it. Yeah,
I will.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, it's such just a gift. Really the word I
think we both said the same thing. It's like, what
a what a gift? And I think you also had
a point that I feel what I didn't say, Like,
I just what a gift to have to be a
part of something that not only creatively is fulfilling and
(35:15):
personally fulfilling connection wise, but then to also be able
to be making a mark on history culturally and then
also on people individually, like all the listeners here, all
of our fans, all the new fans who were coming in,
all the old fans who were there from day one
like to know to like we never forgot I think
(35:38):
even in like the darkest of like the Glee, you know,
hard working bubble that we were in, to have to
remember that we were doing this for something so much
bigger than ourselves. Was like we were making a difference
in people's lives, and that was like, so it kept
us moving forward.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
The mission change. Yeah, it's like, you know, we made
the first thirteen and nobody had seen anything but the pilot.
It was like, let's we want to make the show
that we love doing in our little vacuum. And then
when it came out and clearly meant so. You know,
some people just wanted it for pure unadulterated laughter and
snark and dark comedy. Great. Some people wanted to just
(36:20):
to watch music and turn off their brain. Great. But
also some people were watching it with their families, trying
to discuss their families more about themselves through the show
and things like that, and that is something you hope
will happen, but you can never bank on the public,
(36:41):
you know, people responding to something in the way you
hope it does until it is out there and it
far exceeded everybody's expectations, Brian's included, and so a gift.
Were grateful to have been a part of it. We're
grateful to all of our incredible guests who came on
this show over the years sharing their beautiful story and
feelings with us. Thank you to Ryan Murphy who started
(37:04):
this off with us three years ago, setting the tone
and opening up that honest and raw dialogue for everybody
to feel safe and sort of our group therapy together
in this. And so thank you so much for just
everybody who came on here and taking the trip down
memory lane with us.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
And thank you to you guys for listening and taking
this journey with us and being here with us every week.
We really couldn't do it without you. We do it
for you. This is your podcast as much as the stars.
So now we are turning the question over to you,
and we want to know what is the feeling that
Cley leaves you with. Next episode is all about you
(37:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and that's what you really this podcast. Ah,
here we are. We're at the end of our GLEI era.
Oh and it feels appropriate, only appropriate to ask ourselves
and for me to ask you and you to ask me, Kevin,
what is the feeling that leaves you with? But first,
(00:32):
if you've listened to the show at all for the
last three years, which thank you for coming on this
journey with us, you've heard us ask all of our
Glee guests, what's the feeling that Lee leaves you with?
I think that we should revisit some of our favorite
responses from some of our past guests over the last
three years.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Beautiful, I love the sound of that.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Okay, great, So let's start with mister Schwe himself, Matthew Morrison.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It is so mixed. Don't have a single answer for
that question. Like I said, it was the highest of
highs and the lowest of lows. But when I look
back at it, and I'm so proud. I'm proud of
the impact that we had in society. I'm proud of
(01:21):
all the things that we did for so many communities
that were underserved or underrepresented. The show opened people's eyes
to diversity, to people who weren't the status quo, who
(01:42):
looked different, who acted different, And I feel.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Like it was the beginning of such a revolution.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
And for me, that is so beautiful to have been
at the kind of nucleus of that whole.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
You know thing.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
So I can't look back and and be you know,
I can complain about being overworked and you know.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
But just like the impact, that's the thing that will
stand the test of time. And for me, I think
that is, uh, that's a beautiful thing because most shows, most.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
TV shows do not have an impact.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
There.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
They're binge worthy, they're fun, they're you know, you might
learn something, but there's there are a few and far
between shows that have like a cultural impact and a
societal people. So I love being a part of that legacy.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
A very real answer. I love that. Yes, you know
it's a mixed bag, but ultimately, yes, we loved it.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
We love it.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Okay, Next, let's hear from Miss Mercedes Jones Amberiety.
Speaker 8 (02:54):
I would think besides, if I ever had a child.
That is the bosth amazing thing that I've done. Wow,
it was a roller coaster.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
It was.
Speaker 8 (03:05):
I grew up on that show. I became an adult
on that show. I became an artist on that show.
I just it really made me who I am. So
it leaves me with this just this fulfilling feeling. I
feel fulfilled that if I didn't do anything else in life,
I did that you did, and that's and.
Speaker 9 (03:26):
And that's what we did.
Speaker 8 (03:30):
Not a lot of people are going to be able
to say they can they've done that in their career.
Speaker 9 (03:33):
And we did everything.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Everything we got an Oprah.
Speaker 9 (03:38):
Oprah white House saying at the O two.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Singing the White House was one of the best moments
of my entire life.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
I mean it's we we done what we got to
do on that show. People just in their lifetime we
never get to experience. So I feel very fulfilled. I
can always look back and be like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Just like her, very epic.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I mean she's right, this is it was the
greatest thing that the incredible things we got to do
and that short amount of time is unreal.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, truly, it's the beginning of it all, you know. Yeah,
next we have the one and only Quinn for Bray
Diana Agron.
Speaker 10 (04:24):
I just have such tenderness for that show. It's a
really glee opened the doors to everything I've been able
to do in my creative life, absolutely everything. There would
be no path without that, and so it's just so
delicate and tender to me.
Speaker 9 (04:45):
It feels like the exact thing I.
Speaker 10 (04:49):
Was searching for given to me at such a young age.
To be able to do that show with all of
you and find our family in that is just it's joyful,
it's tender, it's gleeful, it's you know too. I just
(05:10):
I really and the older I get, the more kind
of like protective I feel about our show because I
think that there have been so many opportunities for people.
Speaker 9 (05:25):
I mean, we're the.
Speaker 10 (05:26):
Only ones that really know what it was like. And
I think that again, meeting people on the streets who
have to just light up and want to at the
base level just tell you that they love the show
or your character or whatever, and at a more in
depth level, really want to share with you as specific
(05:48):
reason why. And we had that then and the fact
that we still have that now. There aren't always experiences
that you have as a storyteller that dig so deep
into people's hearts. Yeah, and I I may not ever
have a project, a project that people feel that strongly
(06:09):
about that people lead to tether these these like heart
strings too and wrap them up tightly.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And I think that's phenomenal.
Speaker 10 (06:18):
I mean, if you can have one, two, three, but
if you if you have one that sits at the
top this with this amount of strength, yes, amazing because
some well don't have that. Imagine we're just doing other
projects that people are like. I love the stunts that
looked really hard, like yeah, and that's fun and thrilling too.
(06:41):
But like the emotional connection that people have the amount
of time somebody's come up to us with tears in
their eyes really.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Changed my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's wild to me.
Speaker 10 (06:54):
But I had that feeling that that's what the show
is going to be when I read that pilot.
Speaker 9 (06:58):
That pilot, I had Chris bumps when I finished.
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Speaker 9 (08:19):
It's the gift that.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Keeps on giving. I would say, I would say, for
lack of a better fucking answer, it's the cliche that
I don't want to deliver but fucking Glee. Man, It's
one of the great titles of the show.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
Like it.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
It is such a gleeful experience. I truly like, I
know there's a lot of like, you know, hairy things
that that people may think they know happened on the
show or project happened to the show. Maybe because I'm
a happy idiot, maybe because I can block out that stuff,
Maybe because that's just in the right place at the
right time. Maybe because I am late to the party,
Chris and I never was privy to a lot of
(08:52):
whatever difficulty or contention that may or may not have
existed between people and situations. I had an A plus
experience on that show. I loved every minute. I loved
every person truly, and anytime people ask me about Lee,
I'll go, like, you want the t I'll give you
the tea. I'll tell you everything that I know because
all of it.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
Is glowingly positive.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I have ary.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
I have a positive I have a positive, wonderful story
about every single person individually that if anybody ever said thing, well,
I don't know I heard this, I'd be like, tell
you what you want to hear a really really wonderful
story about that person, then I have them, I have
them all, I have all the receipts on great moments
with everybody, and uh yeah, Glee was a gleef was
so gleeful for me. It was a joy. It was
(09:34):
a joyous experience I've loved. I loved working on that show.
I had so much fun with you guys.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Did I believe you? Just a casual? Tony Ward went
on our show Big Deal. Okay, one of our favorite
guest stars of all time, our first big guest star.
We have the one, the only, Christie jennle with Well,
I'm not.
Speaker 13 (09:54):
Going to say it leads me with Glee because everybody said.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That, no, it's we haven't gotten.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Maybe once.
Speaker 13 (10:02):
Well, I mean I was going to say joy, but
Glee is it? Because Glee represents for me something I
didn't have in high school. We had madrig goals because
there was only five of us, and I always wanted
to have a glee club. And so for me getting
to do the show Glee and then go back to
my high school and see that they had developed a
(10:23):
glee club and now a thirty five people in it,
and that's because of the show. I don't even know
if I've ever gotten to tell Ryan Murphy that. But
the choir director said, it's because of the show Glee
that you were on that developed an interest.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I mean, this show changed choir.
Speaker 13 (10:42):
And so because I love young talent and I have
my camp and arch and education fund and all that
stuff to be it leaves me with pure joy. So Glee,
That's what it leaves me.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
And it still does.
Speaker 13 (10:53):
When the girls got Yesterdaight emo, so thank you.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
How sweet.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
It's so like the show is like for some people,
is like everything that you had been dreaming and never
got or had dreamed you would have, or things that
you didn't have.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I just you know, it's a dream scenario for like
some of its college years, some of its high school years.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And I'm telling you the thing, the fam that I
would have been, the fam that I would have been,
let's hear from.
Speaker 14 (11:25):
Jacob Artist, nostalgia for everything that you know we all
did together and how much fun we had. But then
I think also just like a celebration of you know,
people and singing and dancing and acting and the joy
that that can really bring. And you know, I think
(11:47):
this show in many ways is a lot about kind
of celebrating the underdog, and so I think it's like
a combination, a blender of just like all of those things,
you know, and I think there it's not a mistake.
The show was as explosive as it was because there
was some real magic to it that you guys put there.
(12:10):
I mean, obviously I came in like much later in
the picture, but you know what you guys did in
those first two seasons, it was not an accident. There
was something really special about it. It really resonated with people,
and like I said, everybody loved it and enjoyed it.
And it's not even once in a lifetime, maybe like
once every ten lifetimes, just sort of the stars.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Aligning and it was just really really really special.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
We have another favorite newbie up next. Thank you Jacob
for also coming on the show. Noah Guthrie aka Roderick.
Speaker 15 (12:45):
I would say, I mean mostly joyful. I would say,
you know, there's a the whole experience as a whole,
as a package, was a lot of learning and a
lot of ups and downs, but I think.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Overall, I was very grateful.
Speaker 15 (13:05):
I was very just every time I see the show,
like even you know, like preparing for this, I watched
like the first episode or two of that season, and
you know, even just seeing it just makes me smile,
you know, like it just it just brings this kind
of joyfulness to me. And I think some of that is,
(13:27):
you know, Glee in a lot of ways brought up
and handled a lot of the issues that I dealt
with in high school that just were not talked about.
And you know, obviously that it happened at a time
when we were all kind of experienced at a pretty
big cultural shift in the country, and I just think
(13:50):
that it brought a lot of things to light that
needed to be brought to light and talked about, and
that always makes me feel really happy. It just makes
me feel good to know that, you know, even you know,
obviously the show has its flaws like everything, but I
do think that it's like a net good and I
(14:12):
think that it really especially from my experience of talking
with fans of the show, because you know, like I'm
I'm a fan of the show because I was on
the show, right, more fans of the show because the
show like.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
Touched them, yeah, to their core.
Speaker 15 (14:28):
You know. I have people talk to me at shows
and stuff that are so deeply affected by Glee and
the kind of message that it brought that it was
like life changing for these people, and yeah, I don't know,
it's just really special to be a part of something
(14:48):
like that.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Getting The Big Guns co creator Brad Foulchuck, It's.
Speaker 16 (14:53):
As you said, it feels like family to me. It
just feels like like like we went through something together
that was so extraordinary and so bonding and wonderfully complicated
and wonderfully simple. And you know, the warmth I feel
when I see your guys faces, it just reminds me
(15:13):
of a time of life and I've an experience that
we had that that I feel.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Incredibly proud of and positive about.
Speaker 16 (15:22):
And the fact that you know, new generations of people
who are now you know, keep enjoying the show and
it sort of lives on in that way. It just
makes me feel proud as a legacy thing that we
did something that meant a lot to people, and what
it meant to us doing it is even a little
(15:43):
bit more special like it was it was. It was, Yeah,
it was a family and all it's ups and downs
and almost mostly ups. So that's the feeling.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I really appreciate that sentiment because that is what it
feels like it's family.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
If you're really lining into the obvious of like what
does it leave you with? Like it has left this
incredible mark, but an incredible group of people that like,
where would we beat without them?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
My family doesn't leave, Yes, you know, like you can't
get rid of family. Yeah, And for better or for worse,
we have built this incredibly profound relationship with one another
and that is the best thing for us, I think, personally,
to come out of it well.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
With the big guns here, we've got our fellow co
creator Ian Brennan.
Speaker 17 (16:35):
Just like an unbelievable sense of pride.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It's very I'm very, very proud of like the whole.
Speaker 10 (16:47):
Thing.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
It's it's a very. It feels like a child.
Speaker 17 (16:52):
It's like you know, once you have children, it doesn't
you like, no, that's a show and like child.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
But it was like it's like a very.
Speaker 17 (17:02):
It's it feels like an achievement, a creative achievement that
can never be taken away.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
And I think we we.
Speaker 17 (17:09):
So much of this industry and in like showbiz in
general is so ephemeral and can be so it's sort
of gone and it's like, what have you done for me?
Lately and it's like not another things that were so
important to you sort of like disappear.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
What's did you see? What's on now? Like well, like
look guess what.
Speaker 17 (17:32):
Where's just so not There's so few things that it's
like this show feels like, oh, it's I feel like
I wrote a book, Like there was a really good
book and it's like and every every junior high school
kid in seventh grade reads this book like it was
like it's it's just that you've like contributed to the
culture a bit or you're sort of like required reading
(17:55):
and that that is like a true.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
That's where the pride comes from. You're like, oh, we
did it, and like I did that.
Speaker 17 (18:05):
I did and I definitely take away from it. It's
a cool thing to sometime and again, like you guys
wouldn't experience this because people would already know you.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
But it is like occasionally.
Speaker 17 (18:16):
It's a fun thing to sometimes just drop if somebody
doesn't know you're just eating somebody or someone happens if
you're like you're.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Like abroad or whatever, and then h.
Speaker 17 (18:28):
Oh, I kind of kind of just work in TV,
like oh, anything I know about and then just like well,
Glee I'm like, oh did you write on that? Like no, no, no,
I created it and just to.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Be like and it's a dick move to do good
but as if you didn't just set up the whole
thing to like drop camera and it's that. It is
like there is like so all the strm and drong and.
Speaker 17 (18:54):
Like all the wildness of it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It just the work and the late nights and it
sucks up.
Speaker 18 (18:59):
It sucked up eight years of our life where it
was not really able to do anything else, like it
was like and and really to find took me away
from one career put me in another one.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Like it was very very impactful.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
So like it.
Speaker 17 (19:15):
That those moments are worth it when you can stand
back and be like, oh, but like we did that.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think that Ian was the first one to bring
out the Pride card. I think it was like the
first time we had heard that, but happy Pride, Happy Pride.
After Ian came on, as I guess we started hearing
Pride a lot more actually, so he started the trend.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
One of our favorite directors and people, Paris Barclay, I.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Would say, glee is when I think practically it's emotional.
That's the word I get so emotional that some shows
I feel, oh, that was stressful. Some shows I feel
that was hilarious. Is that's not too often for that,
But I feel very emotional about Glee, and I have
(20:06):
to say it's often tinged with sadness. It's sort of
like a youth, a period of longing for youth that
you can't get back, and sometimes saddeness. To me, I'll
be totally honest, because I sort of look at what's
transpired postly from Afar and I saw the Michelle and
Find a Girl last night and she was fantastic. I
(20:30):
realized that part of our family has kind of ruptured
around things that people did then, and that really makes
me sad. You know, I wish, I wish, I wish
I had to go to the festival. I wish there
were some more forgiveness in it. I think Ryan said
(20:51):
a great tone at the beginning of your podcast because
he was kind of owning up to his own mistakes
and kind of forgiving himself in a really beautiful way.
And I feel like I've definitely made mistakes, and I
certainly made more mistakes when I was the age that
you were in Lee, and I just wish that that
would rain. I wish that people would just let things
go and just hold on to the fact that there
(21:12):
was a beautiful, beautiful show that moved a lot of
people and talked about a lot of really important things.
I will never forget. It's also in Wheels when Sue
Sylvester brings in Lauren and that story that then becomes
a story with Robin. That story had a huge impact
on that community and people who love people who have
(21:33):
Down syndrome. That's really really emotional and powerful.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Kevin, you loved this interview with our incredible friend and
also the mastermind behind Glee's marketing campaigns, Joe Early. He
was the president of Marketing and Communications for Fox at
the time. And if you haven't heard that interview, also,
it's just so specific to the advertising and like how
(21:58):
the tone was set essentially to the masses. So Joe, really, I.
Speaker 19 (22:02):
Mean, it was just an absolute thrill ride from the beginning.
I am sort of like a chronically optimistic person, you know,
I walk on the sunny side of the street.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
But that show was so just personally meaningful.
Speaker 19 (22:21):
But I watched it. I watched it change lives. That
show literally we know has saved lives think about that,
wildly entertaining, hilarious, actually introduced music to generations in a
new way. I remember Dante knew that. Dante knew I
(22:43):
was like a fanatic, even though I was all cool
on the side and everything. He'd do that as a fact,
and he would share songs with me in advance, so
I would hear songs and not even have not even
have the scripts. And so I'd be playing it with
my daughter, who you guys, we're very kind to.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
You're like, why is this guy bringing his daughter to
the set? Because that was the only thing.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
You've ever about it made.
Speaker 19 (23:10):
She loved it too, And but we'd be in the
car listening to the Glee songs and then we'd be
driving and listening to whatever.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Aretha Franklin would come.
Speaker 19 (23:20):
On and she would say, oh, she's singing the Glee song,
and I was like, Wow, this show is just like
expanding people's understanding. So that's magical is also a good word.
But the first word that came to mine was thrilled,
Like just I loved everything about it, and I still
do and very proud of it. It's it's on Hulu,
(23:44):
it's on Disney Plus, it is for Everyone who's listening
obviously already knows that, but that was important.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
For us to make sure.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, I love him, I mean again in all departments,
like a thrill ride, a career highlight, for so many
different reasons. Okay, the unofficial thirteenth member of the Glee Club,
camera operator extraordinary, the man who had the steady cam
on him and all those musical numbers. Andrew Mitchell.
Speaker 20 (24:12):
Oh my gosh, can I go back to the who
is the lady who started it?
Speaker 15 (24:18):
It was.
Speaker 20 (24:20):
Here we go, Lillian badler By. It's very do yes,
we is about opening yourself up to joy.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Can I steal that?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
You can totally steal that.
Speaker 20 (24:31):
My memory is not very good, but I always remember
how I feel when I meet somebody, when I do
a project or something like that. I don't remember some
of the details, but I always remember how I feel.
And at the end of that show, it felt so good,
But then it also felt like this can't end right,
like I don't want this to go away.
Speaker 21 (24:52):
It was hard, right, wrong, It's hard but so worth it,
and most things that are worth it are hard to do.
So it was, you know, maybe like warmth, warmth in
my heart? Oh boy, and just a ton of good memories,
you know, because all the bad stuff is just like
I just remember that yeah stuff, you know totally.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
It was like we went to sunder camp together and
it lasted six.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Really long time. Yeah that's right, a really long, awesome
summer camp that you never want to end, right, Okay.
One of our more recent episodes and one of our
favorite episodes, and my brother actually wrote and texting him
was like, this one was so good. One of it's
it's one of our favorite people as well, Brad Beeker,
(25:37):
the director and executive producer.
Speaker 22 (25:40):
So many faks, but honestly, it's like pride.
Speaker 23 (25:49):
You know.
Speaker 22 (25:49):
It's like I just I'll always look back and I
feel so proud that I got to spend that time
with you, right, to spend that time with you know,
it was like it truly, you know, it defined my life.
(26:12):
You know, I learned so much. And it's like there
were horrible things and there were great things, yep, but
we were all in it together for better or worse,
you know. And when I look back, and you know,
(26:33):
it's like for all, for whatever whatever you thought or
whatever the it's like when you look back at what
we did, I'm just so proud of it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, you should be.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I mean, we all are now to bring it on home.
Sue Sylvester, herself, Jane Lynch.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
It was a well.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Moment in time. It was.
Speaker 23 (26:58):
It was one beautiful, perfect moment yep, where the everything
kind of it was kind of lightning and bottle. Yeah,
and I remember we knew we were breathing rarefied air. Yeah, yeah,
I remember Ryan saying that to us at some point.
You said, you know, the most important thing for you
(27:19):
guys to realize right now is that we are all
breathing rarefied air. This doesn't happen because of the impact
that the show had, right and.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
The good it had right, and boy, we could use.
Speaker 23 (27:31):
Something like it now where everybody It was kind of
a microcosm of the world, even for adults. It's like
the McKinley high being metaphor for the world where it's
cruel and he gets slush, he's in the face, and
there's groups and factions. Again it's each other. It's very tribal.
(27:51):
Then you get into that choir room and everybody's got
your back, and there's nothing more beautiful than raising your
voice in the song together and making a joyful noise.
It's where you do it together. It's where the football player,
uh and the kid and the little nerd in the
wheelchair can be palsed, where the gay kid can be
pals with the football player and the greaser. You know,
(28:14):
Mark Salling's character was could be so dark and yet
in that you know, when he was winning the same
thing with the guy, when he was with us, there
was something about him that was lighter.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's beautifully said.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, good one, that's really beautiful and true. Jane inform.
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Speaker 1 (29:08):
Okay, Kevin's it's the time, Jenna, It's time before we go.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Jenna, Oh my god, I need to ask you also,
I'm not one who asks people this. I would also
like to say shout out to you for creating this.
This was your idea this one. What is the feeling?
Speaker 19 (29:29):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yes, didn't you if I remember correctly, didn't you just
ask somebody that in like one of our first episodes, like, oh,
that's a good question, Jenna, and it stuck.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I actually don't know, And I don't want to take
credit for it because I don't know that it was mine.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It was yours. And so Jenna, I'm asking you, what
is the feeling that Glee leaves you with?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh my gosh, it's kind of hard to pick one
after hearing all of our incredible friends and family, like
one word. You know, friends and family have like kind
of given us all. But if I were to scrape
that all away and forget that we ever asked anybody,
(30:16):
I think if somebody asked me that question out like
for the first time, the truth is, I think I
would say, like extreme appreciation and deep appreciation for everything
that it has given me, because not only was it
(30:41):
so formative and shaped who I am today and shaped
how I approach things, how I approach friendships, how I
approach work, how I and then also how grateful I
am for the opportunities it granted for the people and
(31:06):
for the family, for all the doors it opened for
all the people I met. It really was just such
a an incredible experience, highs and lows, like no matter
what the challenges were, it's a part of me forever.
And so I think just extra deep gratitude and appreciation
(31:32):
for the gift that that it was and will continue
to be. I think I have this running joke.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
With my.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Team where I'm working, and uh, it's Glee. Glee is
the gift that keeps on giving for better, better for words,
But it's true, you know it is. It really is.
Just people are like, oh my god, I love that
show and just the new generations of people. I saw
(32:07):
my friend Daniel day Kim recently and he was like,
it was the first show that our son became like
so obsessed with and and like never turned off the
TV and you were just always in our living room
and like it's just so powerful. So I'm just I'm
extremely grateful. Kevin. What does the feeling that leaves you with.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I'd rather not say.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I think.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Pride and family are up there for sure, because I
really like, close my eyes and think about the experience
of the show. It's definitely family. Being on set with everybody,
every single day that experience, but I think, ultimately similar
(32:51):
to you, I feel just honored to have been like
a part of it. It feels like such a gift
and the fact that, echoing everything you just said, that
we got to experience so many ones in a lifetime
type things. You get to be on a show that
you love doing, you get to be on a show
(33:11):
that the crew loves doing. You get to be on
a show that means so much to people that we
could go on tour in different parts of the world
and they knew us and loved the show, and it
wasn't about any of us as real people. It was
about seeing those characters go through those experiences with that music,
(33:34):
what that meant to people, And it always felt so
much bigger than ourselves, yes, which was really special, And
I think we were all so young and green and
just happy to have a job that you can never
in your wildest dreams dream of anything like that happening.
And so I feel extremely honored to be cast on
the show, to have been able to meet the best
(33:58):
friends I'll ever have, and to you know, sort of
it was such a specific time in pop culture, and
having grown up obsessed with pop culture, it was so
strange and surreal to be a part of something that
was also pop culture at that moment and sort of
(34:21):
the ushering, you know, the end of one era, the
ushering end of another era, transitional period I think in
our culture and all that was happening at the same time,
and we got to experience that. And it's such a
gift now to be able to look back on it
with you and to watch it, to have new people
(34:41):
finding it. The music still is out there, the episodes
are still out there. So I'm just honored that. I'm
proud of the show. I'm never embarrassed by it. Yeah,
I will.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, it's such just a gift. Really the word I
think we both said the same thing. It's like, what
a what a gift? And I think you also had
a point that I feel what I didn't say, Like,
I just what a gift to have to be a
part of something that not only creatively is fulfilling and
(35:15):
personally fulfilling connection wise, but then to also be able
to be making a mark on history culturally and then
also on people individually, like all the listeners here, all
of our fans, all the new fans who were coming in,
all the old fans who were there from day one
like to know to like we never forgot I think
(35:38):
even in like the darkest of like the Glee, you know,
hard working bubble that we were in, to have to
remember that we were doing this for something so much
bigger than ourselves. Was like we were making a difference
in people's lives, and that was like, so it kept
us moving forward.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
The mission change. Yeah, it's like, you know, we made
the first thirteen and nobody had seen anything but the pilot.
It was like, let's we want to make the show
that we love doing in our little vacuum. And then
when it came out and clearly meant so. You know,
some people just wanted it for pure unadulterated laughter and
snark and dark comedy. Great. Some people wanted to just
(36:20):
to watch music and turn off their brain. Great. But
also some people were watching it with their families, trying
to discuss their families more about themselves through the show
and things like that, and that is something you hope
will happen, but you can never bank on the public,
(36:41):
you know, people responding to something in the way you
hope it does until it is out there and it
far exceeded everybody's expectations, Brian's included, and so a gift.
Were grateful to have been a part of it. We're
grateful to all of our incredible guests who came on
this show over the years sharing their beautiful story and
feelings with us. Thank you to Ryan Murphy who started
(37:04):
this off with us three years ago, setting the tone
and opening up that honest and raw dialogue for everybody
to feel safe and sort of our group therapy together
in this. And so thank you so much for just
everybody who came on here and taking the trip down
memory lane with us.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
And thank you to you guys for listening and taking
this journey with us and being here with us every week.
We really couldn't do it without you. We do it
for you. This is your podcast as much as the stars.
So now we are turning the question over to you,
and we want to know what is the feeling that
Cley leaves you with. Next episode is all about you
(37:46):
and your responses. So listen in join us and thank
you for writing in and that's.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
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