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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and that's what you really missed. The tour edition.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
The drop boxes, the phones are out, the photos. Oh
my god, you guys. So this is Glee Live in
Concert twenty eleven, the second Glee Live tour. This time
it was arenas. We graduated from doing theaters sort of
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a pilot program tour if you will, after season one,
and we did four cities, just a handful of shows.
This time we went on tour from May twenty first
to July third, and we did the US, Canada, England,
and Ireland. And this was a really big deal for
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several reasons. One, this was that part of the contract
when we were testing for the pilot when they said
you may go on tour, We're like, uh huh, yeah,
sure whatever, and you just sign it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well, because you're never not signing that contract at twenty
three years old and almost broke. So you're signing the
contract right. There's a record deal in place, there's a
tour in place, and there's six seasons in place. Yeah,
and some other things. Yeah and yeah. Then we land
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at Okay, a tour that's funny.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So we are at the tour after the second tour,
and so contractually Fox had us because we're shooting nine
ten months out of the year, right, Fox had us
for four weeks. Was in the contract that we were
allowed to go on tour, and knowing how expensive a
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tour is, and they found out, you know, after the
first tour they needed us to go on tour for
at least six weeks and money right to make back
the money yet to make profit, basically to make it
worthwhile to send us out there all these trucks for
the stage dancers and you know what it takes over
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the Yeah, and so they had to basically break our
contract to extend our contract, to make an amendment, if
you will. And knowing that we were exhausted and a
little out of it, Ryan came to us a couple
of months before season two was done. Do you remember this,
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Jenna vaguely in the tin shed we're in dance rehearsal,
and he says, so he's sort of is easing us
into the idea, Like, so we have this idea we
think we could, you know, the first tour went so well,
we want to go big. We're to do an international tour.
Fox is really excited and we think it could be
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a really great opportunity. And you know, you guys obviously
have to agree to it, and that's up to you,
but we think it could be really really special. You'll
have a private chef, you'll have a private plane, that
whole thing which we did. We did, And I'm telling
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you all this just a preface, so you don't think
we're a bunch of spoiled brands because a couple of
things that happen. Right, you still have months ahead of
you filming.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You're tired, yeah, and then a tour in mind right
after that?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Right? And how are you going to set that tour
up and then go and fly around the world doing
this tour night after night.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I'm I'm tired thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, So not everybody was super stoked about it. Actually
most people were not. And I won't get into details,
but we financially were not really making that much money
from it, right, How wasn't the contract We were making
like nothing? But then they because they had to sort
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of break the contract, they offered us a little bit
more and we had the option. It was like, you
either agreed to it or you don't, you don't have
to go on tour. So we were like, we obviously
want to like go do this and perform, and so
we all agree to it. We did have what we
thought was potentially our like Little Friends slash Modern Family
Big Bang moment where you and I Jenna had like
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the original was it eight members of the Glee Club
I think so yes, over to our house to talk about, like, look,
because this is the only opportunity that they have to
change the contract, we could go in and ask for more.
They released the tour dates at least the ticket prices.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
We're doing it. We're left in.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And I told everyone I think the tour will make
forty to fifty million dollars. It ended up grossing forty
four million dollars and forty four shows, so a million
a night or a million per show and half because
we were young and dumb, okay, and half of us
were like, we just want to make sure we have
security and a chef, which like obviously that comes with
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the tour, and the rest of us are like, we
would like more money, and then it ended up being
like hurting cats and no one could agree anything, so
then it just sort of divulged into nothing, and we
did the tour anyway. We did the tour, and then
I won't say who, but a couple of people came
to me during the tour at different moments were like,
you were right, you should have. I was trying to
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get people to get together to ask for more money, right,
and it just didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
You know. There were just a lot of logistics in
terms of like how many shows a day we were doing,
and if we were being compensated, and there were just
things that like, you know, we were like, we just
want to feel like we're being taken care of, especially
when in a normal TV show, that's your time off
with your family, right, that's the time off that you
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get to rest and travel or go be with your
you know, family or whatever. So the idea that we
were already so tired and then not you know, potentially
being compensated in a way that we had hoped for,
the way that they were going to gross it was
like that was like it's like a mental game.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, it was a mental game.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But all to say, the tour was really fun for
most of it. We all had our moments. I know,
you guys have all listening have heard this before. I
was watching some of the I was watching the tour
last night through the three D movie which we'll do
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a whole episode, and threw like some clips and I
will say so this to Kevin every time. I wish
I could do the tour over, because Kevin had the
right attitude about it. It was so much fun and
had I just had a different mindset about it, maybe
not being so tired, maybe making a little bit more money,
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like I think I would have just I would really
like to do it over.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I think the business side of it really ruined it
or put a bad taste in a lot of people's
mouths for the tour experience. And I do think so
going into it, you're not only tired, you feel sort of,
for lack of a better phrase, shit on on the
business side of it. And then it's like, okay, but
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we're the ones going out there and performing, and like
going out there and performing for an arena full of
people that were so excited to be there was the
greatest stage.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Was like were the moments right?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah? Everybody loved stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Behind the scenes that and it wasn't even the business stuff.
It was just like I was I wanted to go
home and be with my boyfriend and be normal, you know.
And so there was just like the taste of that too,
of like we're working right now, and I I wish
I had a better mindset that like this is work,
but this is work, Like are you kidding? Like look
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at your life? You know what I mean? This is great.
So I just wish I had more perspective on it.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
That's hard though you're in it, and it is when
you don't. You're grateful to be on a TV show
that's successful that you're going to come back. We're season
three and so you already know that's happening, and I
think everyone was just worn out. And then on top
of it, like sometimes you can't recognize like the privileges
of the success of like, oh, we're getting to go
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on tour.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Right exactly thing a very successful sold out tour.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That being said, setting up this tour and going on
the tour or were I don't know how we did it.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Cuckoo banana pants, Like yeah, this is like the tone
that sets the tour. Right, Like, we finish shooting our
season two, we go to Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
We have three days off and in that time of
three days off, what you have to prepare to be
away from home for six weeks more than that because
actually as soon as Jenna and I wrapped the tour,
we went to Paris to perform at the US in
the Ambassador's house before the July, and then I had
to go to Australia to do like a convention thing,
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and so I was about to be gone for three months.
And so we have three days and prepare to be
gone for two to three months. Good luck we did
end up.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Back in la though for a few years.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
A couple of days we did.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, we did get to sleep in our bed one
last time.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And I remember we got to I had one bag
packed that I shipped with all the tour stuff that
I wasn't going to see until we got to Europe yeap,
and so those were all like my fun clothes that
I was saving for Europe, and then I had like
my US and Canada bag, and like we had it
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
We were like our bags got picked up outside of
our doors and then they showed up aout our hotel
room and like we didn't have to really worry about
the in between. So like again she.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I mean, we had the best. I mean, she is
still one of the greatest tour managers in the world.
Angie Warner somehow wrangled us, was always calm, was figuring
out the logistics of all this, also was running a
tour all the other side of the things that we
intentionally didn't have to see.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, and pretty magical.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, And I do think we did know how good
she was at the time, like we did in some way,
weird way know what she was doing was phenomenal and
it was so difficult and at the same time, looking back,
like how did she do that?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Well? Right, I'm sure we knew about half the work
that she actually put in. She's very good at what
she does, but like the amount of work that she
put in, I don't think we could even fathom.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And she's toured with everyone, and I do think she's
toured with probably a lot more difficult tours to deal
with a lot longer.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So well, I don't know about that because we are
a lot of work. We were a lot of people,
so it's not like a one band, it's a lot
of people. Yeah, there's a lot of us. Okay, we
go to Vegas, Zach Woodley and Brooke have already been
in Vegas. There's already the stage that is set up.
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They have already gotten dancer. There are amazing dancers who
toured with us, who were in the movie. You've seen
them all, You've seen them on the show, all of them,
all of our friends were rehearsing for this tour while
we were finishing up the season.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
M yeah, we did start. We did start sort of reviewing.
Zach would be like, hey, do you remember that one?
Rewatch some of these. Let's just walk through this, no
real intensive work, but just to get our memories going.
Because they the set and all that was being designed
without any of us having any sort of involvement or knowledge,
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because like why would we one and two great, we
don't have the brain capacity and two they were putting
set lists together. So Zach was then figuring out how
this was going to work. And I think Zach left
for Vegas. Yeah really while we were still shooting, right.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yes, and Brooke was I think staying with us.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So each of the dancers, the back of dancers had
their own tracks to learn and all they're in, like
every number and everything. Then we're given the assignment to
learn our and our tracks. So a track is basically
where you go, what you do, how do you get
off the stage, how you get on the stage, your
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whole kind of night, and like path through the show.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Every moment of your life for those two hours the
show is going on on and off stage.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So each dancer was given assigned a character. I had Courtney,
I had Kyle, and they showed us Zach could be like, okay,
so this is don't stop into sing into dog Days?
Was that right?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is that? The yeah? Or dog Days was second? I
think dog Days are.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Sect Okay, So we watched that and they're all us.
They have like name tags on with like Tina and
Artie and.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Kyle learned to do all this stuff in a wheelchair.
By the way, I.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Remember people's faces, our faces, like the actress faces, like
being a guest, like we're supposed to learn this, but
amazing what they did. They they learn the all of
our parts and then we all separated and like each
individual dancer then gave us our entire track they had
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written down. Courtney had a whole thing in a notebook
for me that I should take home.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I had a full notebook and it had it was
highlighted and.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Where you go what number you stand on? It was amazing.
It was truly truly mind boggling, how amazing and how
much work went in to like make this as seamless
as possible for us.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Because they ended up I think living in Vegas by
the time we left, I think for a week and
a half. Oh she is, I believe that's how long
they were there. We were there for about a week. Okay,
actually they might have been there for longer. And by
the time Zach started showing us, you know, it was
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a muscle memory, like, oh, luckily we've learned all these
numbers before, We've done all these numbers before. And then
once we started learning the transitions, it was actually really
quick process because one, it was ingenious for him to
do that.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Well, there's no way he could teach eighteen of us,
all of us, how many of the ours, Like.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It was harder for like Ashley Fink, for example, who
had not been on the show since the beginning and
who had not done all these numbers before, so like
she actually had to learn most of these numbers from
singing Dancing Yes and her track Wow, And we just
sort of got to be like, oh yeah, yeah, and
we review it with them. So I believe by the
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end of the first day we sort of had the show.
It was rough, not clean, but we could sort of
stumble through it. Now you're living in Vegas, we were,
So this show was at the Mandalai Bay. We were
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staying at Mandalai and there's an arena there so you
don't ever have to leave the hotel. And I remember
like a little treat for us would be sneaking out
to Subway in the middle of the night just so
we could leave.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
The sprinter van would have to take us in the
car across the street because you couldn't walk. Yeah, but
I remember a subway. We got a lot of subway that.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, And we had friends, like I had friends come
and stay with me when it got close to the show,
because how it happened. So we had what was it
three and a half days of rehearsal, I believe, and
then we had sort of a friends and family show.
And leading up to that, you have Ryan who's there.
Then Dana Walden, who was the head of Fox at
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the time and now the head of Disney and the World.
She came and would watch. We had these couches set
up in the middle of this empty arena looking at
the stage, you know, during the day with all these
house lights fluorescent. It was gross and we weren't sure,
you know, if some numbers are going to make it,
if other numbers are going to get added in, And
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we just kept sort of going like that and getting
the stage to work. This whole stage, the entire of
the floor was lights, so if a panel went out
then it looked shitty. So you had all these different
departments working together, but putting this scene together really last minute.
But that's just how the music business is in general.
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So I think people were used to it, right.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I think we had exercised our brains enough doing the
show that this like it seemed crazy, but it also
was like seemed on par with everything else we were doing.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It was the same pace. Yeah, definitely, I do remember
they had these crazy every morning. It was fun because
a whole different routine. It was obviously very different than
filming TV show. But every morning you'd end up backstage
and you had catering breakfast together, and every day there
was like a new sort of Vegas weird dessert like
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Elvis's favorite desserts, that sort of thing, And we had
all these dressing rooms backstage also, which we got to
make our writers right, which is the thing of what
we wanted to be. In the dressing rooms for us.
Every city we went to, Oh yeah, and they were
pretty basic. There was video games. Was there a video
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game console in the girls one or just the guys.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Now, the boys just wanted video games. So these trunks
with these TV screens, yes, and these video games with couches.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I never played it once.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Well, you were hung out in the girls room, Yeah, Chris.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And I hung out with the girls almost.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Because it was the lights were damn yes, it was quiet.
Maybe we're playing music. Zach hung out in there with us.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Like the guys room was exactly what you'd think it
would be. It was smelly, all the lights were on,
it was loud as and so how it is when
the show is about to start, right, you have special
like contest winners or people who know people are coming
back stage to meet you, and some of that was
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really special. And meet and greets, yeah, the meet and greets,
some of those were really cool. But there was family friends.
It was really really busy place and the only place
you could get away to sort of collect yourself mentally,
prepare for what was the energy you were about to
exert to hope to give you know, sixteen to twenty
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thousand people a great time was in those spaces and
so then we'd usually go in there just not speak
to one another.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Well after doing a matinite too, especially like we would
be we'd have done one show already, you have to
do the night show. We were pretty tired. You'd have
to remember which city you were in, oh, and like
get food and make sure that like you were just
rested and ready to go for the second show.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So it was important that those spaces remained, and everybody
did a very good job, the people who were in charge,
I guess, of keeping people in and out. It was
always very quiet. Vegas was obviously rowdier. The green room,
like the had all kinds of there's like chocolate fountains
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and what. It was weird.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, So remember the choices.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
We're spending a lot of time on the setup of it,
because this is where once you get going on tour, everything.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Is just kind of running. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah. Oh, and another thing to mention is that when
we were told we were going to have a private plane,
and I know we've talked about this before, but just
a reminder. It was not you know, the beautiful, luxurious
G six that you see in like the Kardashians Instagram stories.
It we called Thomas Stank Engine. It was like a
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small commuter plane with thirty seats, and there were some
stories and some people were scared to fly on it.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But well, and to be fair, there was a lot
of turbulence on smaller planes, and we went through a
lot of turbulence on a few.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Flights, especially going to Vegas, which was our first experience
on that flight, and it ruined for everyone for the
rest of the tour.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And at that point, patron shots had to be doled
out before we even got on the flight that he
could just like rest.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I just remembered a whole other memory when we get
to it about flights. Okay, let's get going. So in Vegas.
The set list, right, Jennet was pretty for the most
of the show, minus the encore. It was pretty set.
Then Ryan comes in and prior to him coming in
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to talk about the encore, we had talked about what
we wanted because we knew he was going to ask
us at some point, Right, and a lot of the girls,
I'm like this break because again it's a story we've
told a bunch, but a lot of you were saying
I should do safety Dance, and I was like, there's
no way that Ryan's going to let me, because what
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we learned from the first one is he wanted everybody
first tour is that he wanted everybody stay in character.
He was even talking about building an elevator on the
side of this stage so I would stay in my
wheelchair and get lifted down to the quick change area,
so nobody saw me get out of the wheelchair. Because
also have the stage is set up howls. Almost every
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single tour, you have the stage you're performing on that's
up high, and then underneath those stages is where everybody
runs down to change really really quickly. And as with us,
there were twelve of us, so you have twelve people
changing usually at the same time.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Girls and boys dressing rooms separate sides of the stage,
so what girls were stage left, guys or stage right.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So when he came in to finally talk about it,
and I knew he didn't want safety dance, and he
even told Dana Walden in front of me, He's like, well,
this one's on the verge of having two songs cut,
It's like wait what I.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Go, Oh my god, Okay, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Let me do better. You guys stormed him really did well.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Look, so dance is really fun. We also knew how
much you wanted to do it, but we also like,
like selfishly, I wanted to do it, like I think
it's important. And I think Adam Ryan was so adamant
about making sure that Artie was representing and that you
weren't just able to get up out of the chair
and it was going to be kind of jarring or
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feel like this totally this moment, and so I think
he was against it because it was just, you know,
it was like dangerous a little bit right. He was risky,
he was he.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Was only thinking about people who are coming there.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Just feel represented by already in a wheelchair exactly. And
it was very mindful of that and we understood it,
but we also said, like, look, it's been on the
show before, so this is not new news, like.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That was the only cab that that was the only
reason why it was even a.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And we really fought for it, and he really he
really hurt us. He really did. He listened and he
really heard us and thank goodness you did, because it's
one of the best comedies of the tour. It was
so much.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Fun, if I remember correctly. So we knew that for
sure what would be in there was Somebody to Love
an Empire state of Mind, right, And then I think
we narrowed it down to maybe five or six other songs,
and then he wanted us to vote, like in secret ballot.
That's right, I remember that, and so then we all voted.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
He wrote down and put it on paper and put
him in a hat.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And look, you've heard Ryan on the show. You can't
make him change his mind. He is the creative force
behind the show. It's like it's his vision and it's
working because it's his vision, so why would you change anything.
And I remember he's like, Okay, here's what we're going
to do. We're going to put it to a vote
and we'll do whatever you guys vote for. And I
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remember being so nervous, and he read out the votes
and it was safety Dance.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah. I love that we voted.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
And I couldn't. He's like, okay, it's like, let's do it.
Let's see how it looks. And the other numbers that
got in there randomly. I think we were all talking
about it and it came up just as an idea was.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Friday, Yeah, and then Single Ladies.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
And then Single Ladies.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So that was the big one was though, is that
we were we voted on safety Dance and we really
the girls really rallied because we just knew what that
meant to you and like for you to have to
to do the whole tour, which you were the most
excited about the tour period, to do the whole tour
in a wheelchair when we knew you could dance and
people have seen this number before, like it was a
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special number, so we just thought it would be and
it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
The encore was sort of like anything goes. And also
we ended up because we did Single Ladies and Friday.
Logistically we needed a song too, more songs to allow
people to run to different parts of the arena.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Right because at every arena was different and that s
stage where Amber does Ain't no Way and we do
Single Ladies and Mark does that bomb Girls like that
stage is pretty far so in order for us to
change into our single lady's outfits, run in our heels
and then get to that side of the stage, in time.
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You guys basically had to kill time. We're like, be slow,
take your time, and for each stadium it was different,
which is warready would have to scope it out and
figure out how we navigate it, so we'd all be like,
you know, a little train following security, so we don't
know where the hell we were.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Ever, if you go and watch the YouTube videos which
I did last night, of Single Ladies and Safety Dance,
a lot of the if not every all of the
Single Ladies people are in Safety Dance, and sometimes you'll
see sometimes it's two different dancers out in front with
me and sometimes Heather we'll join halfway through the dance.
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And that's solely because, yes, sometimes it was not logistically
possible for people to get there in timement. Usually any
talking I was doing before Safety Dance and I did,
and if I'm talking slowly, it's purely just to kill
time and try to give the ladies time to make
it back to get on stage for Safety Dance and
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make their quick change. So still in Vegas, we have
our Friends and Family Show, which is our dress rehearsal,
our only dress rehearsal that we get because I think
at that point we had only performed it in two sections.
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Maybe I had friends there, did not tell them we
were doing safety dance, And it was nerve wracking because
we did not know if the show flowed correctly. We
didn't know if it was fun. We didn't know if
we were giving an audience what they wanted. But there
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we were right sort of like it said, like a
little cocktail thing, so people were on the floor. Yeah,
it was weird of the arena. It was weird because
you're also very intimate. You didn't have like the screaming
fans that we would come to have the next day.
And I don't think we had like there's some pyro
maybe they were trying out for the first time. So
we didn't have right everything we did that Do you
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remember how that went? And I don't think anything changed.
I think we just we It was sloppy, is what
it was. And we had to come in early the
next day before our very first show, which is five
days after us having gotten there.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And walk it. But we did. We got there and
once you get into the flow of the show, like
Kevin said, it's like then you're kind of you're like
up and running and it was really fun and you
get to like do little different things each night and
play with the audience and play with each other. Actually,
I don't remember every show like live show ever going badly,
(28:59):
Uh do you know what I mean? Like, I don't
think anybody was like that sloppy fixed now Like I
think it was just kind of like a free form
rock out. Once we were up and running.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Once we got it, we got it, and I do remember.
I think for us it was like the nerves of.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Having just learned it.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah. So the first few shows, I think we're pretty
like I have pretty bad nerves. And at some point
the nerves completely went away because we knew it so well.
You can go out there and really enjoy it, be present,
have fun. Right. So we did Vegas, we flew to
San Francisco. From San Francisco, we did our shows in
Sacramento and San Jose.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
And then Anaheim and Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, so then we were back in my life for
a little bit for Anaheim, La and San Diego. We
I remember San Diego, we performed at the arena where
Almost Famous was filmed.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And that was a weird one because it felt like
that stadium where that arena was like derelict, like, yeah,
like no one uses it anymore. Yeah, it was pretty old.
It was filled with history, but also weird vibes backstage.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Totally, but I all we could see was like the
almost namous like you know, it's just.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Like Also it was a come down of we performed
at Staple Center in La so much fun. The other thing,
Jenna talked about this for a second, we were doing
matines That's not a normal thing to be doing on
a concert tour, but for them to make their money,
we had to do matines. You coming from theater, you're
used to matinees, but this was like a very different Again.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Matinees are tough no matter what. They're tough on you,
they're tough on the audience. It's a tough it's tough
crowd to get to. It's early, it's like and you know,
some matinees really surprised us, but other matinees were like,
it's eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Mostly matinees felt like a matinee. Yeah, that's what LA
crowds are also notoriously bad because everyone's jaded in the
entertainment industry to judge, to judge lots of friends and family.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, exactly, but it.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Was really cool and very surreal, and just to be backstage,
to walk into that empty arena beforehand.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
In the locker we like hung out in the locker rooms.
It's so weird. It's just so weird.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
It's very, very weird.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
And then we kick up the tour. There's some fun
facts about this tour. Naya was sick during some of this, yeah,
she was. And there was one show in particular that
we had to switch some stuff up and Amber had
to do River Deep, Mountain High.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
By herself, which I watched last night, and she's really Yeah,
you can find it online on YouTube. And because she's
singing both parts by herself, and then she gets to
the end where she's doing the ad libs and stuff,
and you and I are freaking out because like she
(31:55):
got through it, Like holy shit, she did it. Yeah,
and you and I you fully back to me and
like are hitting me, like do you see this?
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yes? I mean it's crazy. I gotta watch it. You
gotta send me the clip. I can find it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
That's also when you did True Colors, right, that's right,
And it was in London, Dublin. It was London. It
was too I have a picture of you in an
empty O two sound checking. I think it was our
last show in London.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
So I did it more than once. I believe we
swapped it out in Dublin. Once it was in we
stayed in the restirator. Yeah, that's because I.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Think there were only I think that was the last
show in London and then we had four shows in Dublin.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yes, I did. I did True Colors last minute. It
was really fun because I think I've shared this before.
The band didn't always play completely live without some you
know support with some of these tracks that we were
singing too. This was the band just bare naked on
(32:59):
its own and it's just me and the band, no
background vocals, you know, underneath us. So it was really fun.
It was a really really fun thing to do. And
I just never thought True Colors would make it back
in a tour.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
And he sounded phenomenal. I felt so proud.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Thanks. It was really fun.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
We also got to have our little fake.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Names, oh our aliases for our hotel rooms. It's yours.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Mine was Tom Riddle, that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Mine was Tiger Lily. So when they would call, they'd
say good morning missus Lily.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yes, sometimes you walk to the hotels and they would
have like the names on the TV's and it's like,
mister riddle.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Well, purposefully they do that so that if somebody's trying
to find you, a fan is calling saying like, oh
it is Jenna ash Quit say at this hotel, They're like, Nope,
you know what I mean. You're not in the system
at all. So that that's basically why they have aliases.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I would like to sort of go in a little
sequential order here, okay, of some of these shows, just
to talk about some random things I remember from some
of these. After San Diego once, it did feel like
after we left California, the tour was really beginning in
a way, right, like we're leaving home. We got our
sea legs. That's also fun fact when they cut don't
(34:24):
Rano My Parade from the seat list and except she
sang it in the East Rutherford shows for the movie, right,
because also that song was insane. Here's the other thing
we were singing all year filming a TV show, right,
and then you go, we're not tour ready vocally, and
luckily the show was split up like Leah's songs were
(34:46):
all belters. Fireworks was already an insanely hard song to sing.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, it's a lot to sing, a lot to sing.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yes, So we leave California, Indianapolis and Minneapolis for next Minneapolis.
You guys top two best audiences, like absolutely insane. Was
not prepared for that. Loved Minneapolis as a city and
it was so good, I remember. So we flew in
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and out of Indianapolis on the same day. That felt weird.
I think it was the only time we did that.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Then we were in Chicago for a hot minute Chicago
from all these pictures meeting lots of fans of Chicago
that my brother came and he was there like the
whole weekend and was It's hard to sort of stun
my brother. And he was sort of in shock because
he hung out with us at the arena and I
think to see us. We did Mattinees, we did four
(35:44):
shows and we went out at night. Yeah, and he
was just sort of to see a family member recognize
how insane this is what you're actually doing. You're having
sold out shows every single time. And he'd go out
there and be like the biggest hype man for all
of us. He would he loved it. He also liked,
(36:08):
you know, like the free bar and stuff, and so
he's like, okay, I'm gonna get loose, but it was
also nice, like how was it was?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Okay? Were we good? And I'd kick him out when
we'd start to warm up things, I'm like, okay, go
out there. We got to get ready and serious. And
there was one time in Chicago too, where and I've
said this, I alluded to this where like one of
the backing vocals during PYT started playing off and it
was weird, and the guy who was running it felt
(36:38):
really bad. And my brother was there to sort of
talk to me because I was confused abut what was happening.
He was like that's weird, and he goes, no, it
was totally fine. It sounded fine out there, so it
was good to have somebody like in the house and.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
He's like tell you the truth. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
But and the guy came up to me and like
profusely apologize and I was like, that's fine, Like it happens.
My brother was like, well, normally, probably under normal circumstances,
somebody someone could be fired, Oh for sure that and well, one,
we don't have that ability, right and like two, no, whatever,
it was. Everything was totally fine. Then we go to Connecticut.
(37:17):
Your family came to Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Right, Higgins Son, Right, Yes, totally see your mom backstage,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
We were in the casino. Yes, oh my gosh, yes
they did come. They came to that one. They love
a casino.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Then we did the Garden at Boston, and I remember
Corey was upset because his team and Stanley Cup finals
had just lost to Boston. And also my name being
Kevin McHale, the former Boston Celtic, being there and taking
pictures of that arena like for my family was very surreal.
(37:53):
And I remember also meeting such a special fan there.
I have a picture of she and I backstage, and
that's what was really nice. Like a lot of these
places sometimes make a wish kids, and it was really
fun to get to share those experiences with them. And
(38:14):
I don't know how to like we and I don't
mean I mean this in all honesty, like we were fans,
like of the fans and that way where like we
couldn't believe that people would show up to see us, right,
And it was times like that where people are there
to see us, We're like, we're happy and grateful that
(38:38):
you guys are here to come enjoy this because it's
not our music, right, Like we're all celebrating what this
show and this music means to all of us. So
it was a really weird experience in that way because
like we're not the artists. We're sort of like the
vessel bringing you this thing, right, and whatever the show
(39:02):
is representative to you, We're just like a conduit to that.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So it didn't feel like you're here for us, We're
all here for the shared experience, right, that makes sense?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, right, No, totally. I think it's important, like for
a TV show in particular, to be able to go
out and meet the fan and that many in that
kind of volume all at once was so unique versus
you know, you go to a convention and meet fans
(39:35):
and they pay to come see you. But like these
fans like, yeah, of course they did come and pay
and to see us, but like there's like a full
experience that they get and they bring other people, like
they get to bond with other you know, Greeks or
with their family in some way. And we'll talk about
more more of that, like when the movie, when we
(39:56):
do the episode about the movie, but like to be
able to go like I remember Telly having the little
like like golf cart esque thing. I think it was
in Chicago actually, and they'd be like, do you want
to go out and meet the fans, either like before
the show or in between shows. And we didn't always
get to do that in every city, but some of
them would be set up where there would be enough
(40:18):
safety or barricade that like we could go out there
without being like completely drowned, and like we would go
out and we would ride the van and like they
everybody would cheer. We could go through and like try
and sign some programs and things, and so those were
the moments where you're like, oh my god, like what
(40:38):
are we? This is why we're doing it. To like
actually be able to like intimately like meet the people
that are are showing up every day, and then like
just the performance itself, like the instant gratification you get.
You don't like writers, performers, We don't know what's going
to until like the next morning with the Nielsen ratings
(40:58):
and like the the reviews. But to go on this
tour and to actually just like watch people fully like
a mash themselves in this moment was like so cool.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
It's also a good point. With a show week to week,
you do have some sort of there's a literal ratings system, right,
and for this we had no idea. We didn't know
what the tour was making. We didn't and that has
nothing to do with us, like whether or not the
like we heard the tickets were selling and we knew
it was like probably sold out, but it doesn't really
(41:34):
change the fact that you still have to go out
there and do the same performance totally. Like all we
could gauge it off of was the immediate response of
the fans, and so that was so special. Also, do
you remember we started at some point I believe it
was Megan and somebody else would go find if we
had extra seats that were open, that were really good seats.
(41:57):
They would go sort of like the nosebleeds and find
people to fill those seats. And they would sometimes it
was two seats, sometimes it was two dozen seats where
they would go get people.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I always wanted to go with them, but they'd be like, no,
you can't, you can't.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
I think I did once. Yeah, yeah, I believe I
did it once. Chicago was also where Nya and Kelly
started playing the Pretty Little Liars not started, but that's
where sort of climax, the a game with the phones
where they would text us, Yes, they would text us,
(42:35):
And that's when I maybe I figured out who who
it was.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Wait, you weren't part of that.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
You didn't know. No, oh, I was with them because
I was getting texted. I was doing it too then, because.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Okay, that's why we were how or where we were
exactly that. We decided with our Samsung phones, who also
who sponsored the tour. So we went on some of
these like you know, mourning like promo tour, meet and
great things at Samsung stores. We all got these phones
(43:09):
and we had these different cell phone numbers, and so
we decided that we were going to start texting people
on the real phones from these number and we were
like divulging like secrets that nobody should know.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yes, well, I think that's in Chicago. I started participating. Okay,
and do you remember I don't remember his name. There
was a crew member who was really hot, Spencer's Oh
my god, it was Spencer. It's absolutely it was. And
Nya thought he was hot. Yeah, And so like the
whole tour from part of the tour we're like trying
(43:47):
to get them together. And then she and Spencer were
like sitting at like the loading dock of Chicago and
I like have this intentionally sort of grainy paparazzi photo
and sent it to her like through my you know,
with A as the signature. I also remember with him
during one of the shows, were like Naya, Now it's
(44:07):
like Jesse's girls being sung and she's getting hyped up
for Valerie, like you have to go ask him out,
You've got to do She's like should I Should I
do it? Like yes, now's the time, you gotta go
do it, and so like he would be backstage with us, yeah,
and she did.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
And he gave her a flower and put it in
her little changing station in underneath the stage. So she
changed her mind.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
So it was it was like that was fine and fun.
While like on tour, Yeah, Philly, we went to we
got Cheese Steaks with Angie and this was like a
really weird place, full circle moment because a couple of
(44:49):
years prior, she's like, I gotta take you guys, you're
talking about it her days to this cheese take place. Right,
we get to the Cheese take Place and it's across
the street from the theater I had performed at just
a few years prior with the boy band I was in.
That's right, Ty and I and I'm like, I can't
believe I'm here to perform in an arena now. And
it's only been like the four years, three years Toronto
(45:13):
we had matinees the best. The matinees were not only
the best audiences of the matinees for the entire tour,
those were some of the best audiences period period, for
the entire tour. It was insane. However, the fans were
so nuts that, like we said in the previous episode,
some of us snuck out and got a different hotel
(45:33):
because it was well, they found us. You guys were crazy. Also,
Diana didn't make it to Canada, right she lost her passport.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
She lost her passport or expired or something, and so
she couldn't get in and we didn't know if she
was going to make the show. It was really it
was rough.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah. Detroit, that's where Masterpiece Theater happened on my birthday
and it was great and lovely. Cleveland was on my
actual birthday. You guys, let me down. East Rutherford is
where we did the movie. We'll talk about that separately.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
And then NASA Coliseum, which is my The coliseum is
where I saw all the concerts growing up. I saw
Burney Spears, I saw it in sinc I saw Backstreet Boys.
I mean I saw everything there. That's that's our concert,
our venue. It was very strange. I'd like my fourth
grade teacher come when they had just redone it. So
(46:26):
some people came from the city, like our friend Will.
It was really fun. It was really really fun to
do your hometown like that. That was really special.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
And then we get to England. We got to England,
lost our minds. It was our first like two consecutive
days off. There were fans outside the entire time of
our hotel singing Don't Stop Believing, so nobody could nap
and everybody was jet lagged.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
In Manchester.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yeah, the things that I remember about Manchester. We did
that Vogue shoot because I did the September issue.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, and we had Jake Nava, who is this huge
music video director and I was freaking out, yeah do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
And then London we did two weeks at the O
two right it shows, Okay, seven shows in two weeks
ish a week it was the longest amount of time
that we like sat down somewhere, which was really fun.
So we got to actually like enjoy and shop and
like spend go out a little bit and like not
feel like you're packing up your bag and like moving
(47:28):
to the next city. And then Dublin was like the end.
So we just had like such a blast. Although the
first time we had an audience in that venue, they
we didn't know they weren't allowed to stand up, so
we thought they hated us. And halfway to the show
somebody told us and like one of the ushers, and
(47:49):
so we were like, stand up. And I think by
the second show we were allowed to tell them to
stand up, and they were allowed to and that was
just the end. So again it's like senior itis the
end of his season where we went out on Temple
Street and we had like such a great time and
we found this like little bar, so after the shows
we would go we called the Schoolhouse and every night
(48:12):
Darren would pull out his guitar and like we would
all just like hang out with the cat with the
crew and like the whole like traveling like our our
whole like Glee family to our family. It was really
really fun and like.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Again family came to meet us in London and then
they came on.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
To the rest of Ireland.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yes, do you remember in Manchester the lights wouldn't turn off.
We had to delay how late shows and we were
like it was really hot for some reason, and we
were like the five of us started on stage, yep,
six of us and if we were all speaking to
each other, talking to each other in our in years,
like why isn't this happening? And then London we also
(48:51):
had like lots of famous people were touring and lots
of famous people came to our shows, and like Gordon
Ramsay was there and then he was at the restaurant
and bon Jovi was also touring and saying at the
same hotel and we drank them one night, Beyonce's mom was.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
At the hotel, a fancy hotel, so like to be fair,
you know, yes, But.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Then like Gwyneth never performed for Apple before, so she
came to perform just one night randomly in London. The
craziest show of all Dublin, Dublin, our last show in Dublin,
because it was the last show. We were going to
do whatever we wanted basically, and so everyone came out
with like weird hair and costumes and for Safety Dance,
(49:32):
everybody came out. You can find it online. It's it's
not cute on my part, I'm like screaming basically, but
it was emotional and it was great. And I remember Cord.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
We threw our vessel into the audience, didn't we Yeah,
and like at that time too, like Cord didn't know
if he was coming back. It was a really weird,
like emotional time. So that was just like a really
also special show.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
If you can go find videos online, you should because
it's absolutely nuts.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
We were just so excited to be done as well.
We wore like the Dalton ties. I remember wearing a tie.
Angie came out on stage our tour manager during I
Want to Hold your Hand. They all surprised us. So
we had some of our our crew like on stage.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
People had secretly been learning Safety Dance throughout the tour
and so by the end everybody was on that.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Yeah, didn't that come on stage at one point Safe
to Dance.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
I also got to that my dad was there. Our
whole dream forever was, you know, to get my dad
to Ireland, and so I sort of broke character and
I had everybody saying I said, my dad was in
the audience, and then I got the entire arena to sing, oh,
Danny boy, Oh that's right, And that was like one
of the most special moments of my entire life. It
was incredible, Sweet Dad. We buzzed through a lot of
(50:57):
those shows, but you know, because once they stay, that's
how to our feels, to be honest, like you're just
sort of going. We've talked about how everyone sort of
lost their minds in London. I don't know if you
need to revisit that.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yeah, by the end of London, like all of the
girls were ready to go home. I think it had
been a really long journey and we all kind of
like locked ourselves in our dressing room and refused to
come out, and and like hinzein, I think it's just
because there was a lot of moving parts to the
(51:30):
show and like behind the scenes of just because like
the joy was doing the actual performance for the fans,
like that was the highlight, right, and all the other
stuff is like the cherry on top and also kind
of the stuff that made us crazy. So when we
would want to go home to our hotels. After the show,
(51:52):
they would put us in these sprinter vans, and I
think there were two or three maybe, and a lot
of the time the venue was like maybe forty five
minutes away from the actual hotel, so we didn't get
separate cars to go home. When you wanted to go home,
you had to wait for everybody to be done, so
like if people are taking time in the dressing room
or have fans or like you don't want to see
(52:13):
fans or have family there and they're taking their time,
we had to wait. And so a lot of the time,
like you'd start to lose your mind a little bit
because you just lose your independence in a way where
like you don't zero, you're not on your own time,
you know, and you're not in your own like like
I would just be like, I want to go home,
I want to take a shower, I want to get
in my hotel bed, and like go to sleep.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Because it also feels like when you're alone, time should start.
I'm off the clock now now I should be able.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
To like have free where So there are a lot
of like moments like that where I think that's the
kind of thing that made us tick the wrong way.
Like a lot of the girls did want to go home,
and then like one person, didn't you know we were
waiting for And then you get angry at them for
no reason, like you shouldn't have to be angry at them,
but because they're holding you up, you're angry. So I
think there was a lot of that that means made
(53:00):
us feel that way.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
I also think, like when we talk to Jason raz,
touring is rough even under like the nicest of situations,
and we were under a pretty cushy situation. However, none
of us had toured like that. Well I guess I had.
I had toured not a nice way.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
You Yeah, so you knew, you knew.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
Yeah, But like that, that is also like a muscle,
and it's also a thing if you're not prepared, it's draining.
All that travel, regardless of how luxurious it is, is
draining because again, what did most of our group want
before you go on towards just to like go home,
to like see your friends and family which you have
not seen for nine times. And so then the further
(53:45):
it feels, like geographically like the further you get away
from home, the harder all of this feels. And also
the longer you've been away. So I think by the
time we got to Europe, we had just been working
for like eleven months straight, and so everyone was just
worn out and worn down. Luckily, I will say that
(54:07):
did not affect the show at all.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah, everybody was still went out there and like gave
their best smashed it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
No, it was so much fun once you even if
you're having a hard day, like as soon as the
curtain goes up and those fans start yelling, like, it
all kind of like blurs out, you know, just like
you're like you forget about it.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Honestly, do you remember when we were at the Savoy
in London, Like we would even try to find moments
of to just like I snuck away to go to
like a friend's birthday dinner, but we were supposed to
have Is that when we were supposed to have dinner
with Adele?
Speaker 1 (54:43):
That's right, and she can't did she cancel her? She
couldn't remember.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
And Adele had become friends and we were supposed to
have dinner with her. It was during twenty one and
then she was living with her mom at the time,
and then her mom came home with a bunch of
her like girlfriends, and so she had to cancel. Like
we were trying to find moments of like just to
go right and get away, do like normal totally sneak
(55:06):
out of the hotel totally.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
Well, that's pretty much the tour. An hour later that
it's it was a lot, and it was again like
I could redo it. I would because I just think
I would go in with more appreciation for the tour
and like how cool it was and how we did
travel even though Thomas TuS Tenko wasn't the best, Like
(55:31):
the hotels we stayed in were really nice, Like we
were treated really great. We had it really pretty good.
And then to be able to like go and do
these shows and meet all the fans, like it was
really awesome. Like I watched some of the videos last
night and just like the roar of the stadiums and
like the amount of bodies that were there for us
(55:53):
was so cool.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
We broke the record at the O two for the
amount of people at the the two and because we
did four shows and sixty six thousand people, which I
thought was insane. I was also remembering how when we
would towards the end of the tour. When Angie could
see us fraying, she would have the flight attendant for
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our plane standing at the bottom of the stairs. That
was like all the time with the shots of tequila.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, yeah, that was because of the turbulence. Ama was like,
I'm not getting on this plane without a shot.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yeah. So it became so much fun. And if you've
heard us play sausat Crunch too, that's where that game
really took flight. Yeah, literally, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Well that's the tour you guys. Thanks for hanging with us.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
For it was madness. And when you're getting on and
off a plane several times a day and like you
don't know where you are, who you are, it was
it was great to be able to like do that together. Jenna.
I'm just like I remember the feeling of like some
of those mornings you wake up just so drained, and
then we'd go to some of the Samsung events and
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you're like what am I doing?
Speaker 1 (57:04):
Where am I?
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (57:06):
Yeah, we know, we we knew if we could get
through the tour, we could get through anything.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Yeah, you know, well that's the tour. Thanks for joining us,
and if you came to the tour, I know, thank
you for coming. It was great to perform for you.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
We had so many, so many people who are like
I was at the tour. I just love that.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
And if you have some of that merch, send us
picks because a lot of it was not great. Yeah,
and also if they put our face on it, then
they had to pay us, So there's a lot of
it with not our face on it. Those programs are
beautiful though. I think the programs are great.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
They were the best.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
They were really good. Jenna, before we go, do you
have a favorite number from the tour?
Speaker 1 (57:53):
Somebody Love That was great? Do you have a favorite number?
Speaker 2 (57:59):
I think the entirety of the encore.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
Also before I forget, I used to do this thing
before each show right where I'd shout out like somebody
in the cast or crew as we'd walk the stage
would all be like I'm a chant. Yes, And we'd
do it every single show, and I would just say
that m VP of the tour was Angie Warner.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
Oh my god. Of course.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
She kept us going. She made that tour happen. So
thank you, Angie. Whaterevorator you're on right now, we.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Literally probably we love you, Angie. Thanks for making the
tour so great.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Send us tour photos, memories, whatever you have, would love
to see them. Next week we talked about Glee the
three D concert movie.
Speaker 1 (58:54):
I'm curious how that's going to go.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
Yeah, let's see Send us send us your concert movies, stories,
any memories you might have. Let's talk about it because
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