April 3, 2025 • 53 mins
Sam Evans himself is back on the pod!
Chord Overstreet joins Jenna and Kevin to share his memories of season five, including what it was like shooting in NY, reflecting on some of the riskier and crazier moments of the show, the actor he would channel when he needed to "go big," and what it took to stay in ab-solutely great shape for those shirtless scenes.
Plus, he spills on the story behind his new single and the new music on the way, working with Ryan Murphy again on the medical drama "Dr. Odyssey" and some insider news on the fourth season of Apple TV's "Acapulco!"
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. We
have a returning customer. One returning customer.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
A vip AN MVP of season five, cord Over Street
is here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We remind him of a lot of things. There's a
lot of thoughts involved, but Cord is just Chords here.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got a lot going on. We have a great
little catchup. Yeah, he's so busy, and we quiz him
on what he remembers about season five, and let me
tell you, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Just like us.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So get ready buckle up for the best. The person
who could have chemistry with an aunt anything and an
ant I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Cord Over Street. Thanks for popping on, Cord.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, yeah, me get to see you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We've we've been. We just finished watching season five. I
don't know how much of it you remember? Zero Yeah,
y'all go.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
To New York only New York for a while.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, I don't remember much of it, to be honest.
I'll see I'll get tagged and stuff here and there.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And I'm like, oh, I forgot we did that?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh yeah, dank a couple of highlights. Kevin was like syphilis, yes,
thank you, Chamydia closed.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Okay, Chami and fake life and in real.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Life, wow wow everyone get tested. Get no.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I don't really remember much of the season five, to
be honest.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, you sort of took over as the The beginning
of the season was awful, you know, like we were
going through a really tough time personally, and so the
show had to be rethought out. We were just trying
to like get through our days. And then I am
sort of became the de facto new like leader of
(02:07):
you know, like I don't know of all of us, right,
like sort of stepped in and like took over Finn's
mantle a bit and then went to New York and
we brought back Sam sades. Like you had a lot
to do actually in this season, Like you became and
you were fine and you were dramatic.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And didn't watch it neither Tony. But I wasn't in it,
That's why. But you were, like you are the star.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You're acting your ass off court.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Oh thanks, guys. You guys are sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Even when like you had that crazy storyline where you
and Mercedes were dating. Sam and Mercedes were dating and
you had that crazy storyline where you like met her friends,
and you had like all these very cringing microaggression things
that you had to do and pull off, and yet
(02:56):
you were still so charming and so good and so funny,
and even despite all of the wild storylines, it was
like you were just really really great.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I mean, I remember there's like one moment from that
that's like still cracks me up because I'm like, I
don't know if you'd be able to get away with it,
but I was like, I think I was able to
get away with it because you're just you have to
just just dive into it. But it was just like
one of those things where I remember it was like
I feel like it was raining, but we were on
(03:26):
the lot and walking on like running across the street
to meet her background singers.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yes, And in the script that.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Was like he does a Kevin Hart doing a Chris
Tucker or one of the other the other way around.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And it was like, oh no, the line was.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Cloud it would take me. Oh they kiss that fat ass. No,
that's like the first thing I say to.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It was like, no, it's in there.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
It's all in there, And maybe they cut it out
later they went they.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Oh my brd on TV. I mean, I just loved
the where TV was back then.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
You could get away with saying anything, and it's like, yeah, comedy,
it's as soon as you put.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
A filter up on comedy.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, you kind of lose a little bit of the
natural dumb things that people would say in a room
or you know, just pitching ideas. But there's a lot
of there's a lot of moments in that that season
probably just rewatching would feel like the first time seeing it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
We also had one of our favorite nationals, which was
City of Angels, so we all went to La. We
did the Boss in La. We did still haven't found
what I'm looking for a fan favorite. You dated Penny.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Wild. I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That storyline was also great. We like to say that
you could have chemistry with the Wall. It's like no
matter who they put you with, it's insane that like
every it's and we're not just like trying to like
fake it till you make it. You know, no, you
can't fake it that much. Cord, like, you just are
so good with everyone, even if it's not romantic, Like
(05:18):
you and Darren have this like really great friendship, likeam
was it was so good.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Oh yeah, I mean it's just like, yeah, it's like
there was definitely a it was like I kind of
I've seen in a while, but like I remember like
there was like a shifting moment where something shifted and
I was like, you probably all both know this, but
there's like a little switch that flicks where it's like
something turns on and it's like you're in it. You're
(05:46):
there and it's in it. It kind of you know
when you you find the sweet spot assay in your
performances and stuff, And that's like I at first I
didn't really know what I was doing, and then I
kind of kind of like was able to recognize that
feeling and then everything kind of started getting a lot
better and a little bit more dialed in.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I remember even watching you like how you worked. It's
funny you say that because like watching you work in
season five, I have distinct memories of like something is
different for him, like you did understand in a deeper level,
and like seeing you flip that switch, like you would
take bigger swings at things. So like the comedy was
like getting bigger and better because I think that you
(06:31):
like trusted that you knew what you were doing, and
you could take bigger swings at certain things, and that
also made it even more impactful when you had these
like really nice adult conversations like between Sam and Mercedes
later on in the season and New York.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Where there's just like some different layers and contrasts, And
I think a lot of that kind of came with
just following a bunch of the writers and really funny
people around and just picking their brain watching like obviously
being in a cast with so many talented people watching
them up close and kind of seeing and then there's
(07:06):
a thing that's like you feel like if you go
really big, it comes off cheesing, doesn't work. But then
there's like I watched a lot of stuff with Jim
Carrey is like, oh it's not you can go as
big as you want, as long as you believe it
as much as anybody else.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yes, And uh, yeah it was. I gotta go back
and check that out.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
You should. It's a really good season for you. I mean,
in general, it was actually a really fun season to
watch because I I became teena graduated halfway through. So
we did first well, let's talk about Trio, because Trio
was when we did the high school, the lock in
with with Lauren and we had our infamous makeout session.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
They got cut, but it was just so.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It made it.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
There's just the closest part of it.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
He had just kept pushing more and more.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Like we have footage and we like that didn't make it, but.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
It was like, it's probably the craziest, the craziest thing
I shot on that shows not accurate.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I think I think with it ended.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Up being really tame versus what it was.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yes, I agreed.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And then your bus, your bus when you go to
New York and you're pursuing your acting, your modeling career,
and you're dating Mercedes. You guys are living together, and
the bus in the in the episode where you cheat
on Mercedes, you cheat on Mercedes, right, and you're naked
in like every scene literally you have like your shirt
(08:44):
off in every scene.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Were you miserable? Now, sweet Potatoes?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Now I look back on it and I'm like, you know,
you know, I got there at some point in my life.
It's a good it's a good you know, Yes, yes,
it's it's a terrible reminder to where it's it's almost
impossible to live up to that at thirty six, but
you know, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You thought, like we thought we weren't looking our best,
you know what I mean. You look back, you're like,
I was my best.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, I think. I think that's it story.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Of my life.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But I felt bad for you during the process of
that because it was like, oh, Kurts Cords shirtless again
in this episode, and you're just like, oh god, no.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I think at the time I was I was I
would get done working and I would when I would
get home, I would put on like a forty pounds
vest and like two or three pairs of sweats and
walk on an incline for like an hour and then
get in the sauna and then try to go to bed.
But like you know, I was hungry, brain was wired
from all of the day and you know, working out
(09:45):
late at night.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
So I would be doing that like regular, I forget about.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
All that stuff, and I'm like, oh man, that was
like I probably didn't need to go that hard. I
was like twenty four at the time, and my metabolism
was doing what it was doing.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah exactly. But it's like we were surrounded by but
like we would hear all the stories of like oh,
this person did this when they were on this show,
and this person did this to be in a movie
and we're shirtless, so like you would just like take
all that in and be like, I guess I have
to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
We're just like in it, you know.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, well, you know, things live on the internet for forever, so.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Exactly, yeah, exactly. It's hard when you know, in like
three weeks a couple of million people are going to
see you shirtless, so you want to try to look
your best.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
You know what's crazy now, it's like you look at
like the lowest the ratings, you know, ratings were on
the show like that, and people are like, oh no,
like kind of you know, we're not panicked, but like
they're just like, yeah, you know, you're comparing the highest
to the lowest, and it's like now, like our lowest
would be unbelievable ratings for TV show.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You also, you were growing your hair out epically during
this season and then you cut your hair on the show.
Do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, I get really like tired of having long hair.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And did you did you cut it?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I think they I remember they wrote they wrote it
in because we were cross shooting a couple of different episodes.
So at one point when me and Darren were doing uh,
I think best day of my life in New York,
we did it in Times Square.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I was wearing a wig and oh yeah in that
scene and because I cut it, I cut it in
LA before we went to shoot, and then then that's
that episode was right before.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I loved speaking of New York. I loved like when
we all got to do that episode, the Chlamydia episode.
We were at Serendipity a bunch, oh yeah, And and
like you and I got to film a lot of
scenes over a couple episodes were just like playing video
games and like being like boys like lads, lads, lads,
which we never really got to do, which it was
really I never got to do that, and it was
(11:54):
really fun, Like you and I had so much more
stuff to do in the back half of the season,
like with the.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
And yeah, there's a lot of fun stuff in there.
And also like shooting in New York was so cool
because normally we would you know, LA shuts down when
we were shoot in l A and we would we
finish shooting out in the freezing cold at like one
o'clock in the morning. Everything's so open in New York,
so you know, we could go out and get drinks
and kind of hang and actually have get to have
(12:21):
a little fun outside of oh that, but yeah, I
loved I loved filming in New York.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It was so much fun that I was. I forgot
that too, because like what we were shooting in New York, it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Was almost because crane.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, it was good memory, a steel trap memory.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It's, yeah, I just remember weird things here and there.
Most of the stuff I've I forget until like you know,
it's kind of like that. I feel like I forget
like ninety percent of things until I start talking with
people about it, and then it's like comes back, like
you're in a therapy session.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Right, maybe I did Thanks for going to do this.
We could at Yeah, but like when we were shooting
in New York, we weren't doing that much. So we
were doing like exteriors, so like those aren't really extensively
like long scenes, so you're shooting a little piece here,
a little piece there, and so we could like go.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Out and do other Yeah, you weren't doing.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We weren't doing sixteen hour days like we would be
doing in La you know.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
And it was also so much of those location dependent
you know, and all right, this is set at night time,
so you know, we have the day to where sometimes
I think we started like two or three o'clock in
the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
But there was there was the one like it was
like I think it was early March or late February,
but it was what it was set like in the
springtime in New York. So I remember like kind of
like right when it was starting to get warm, but
it was freezing and we were out on that in Brooklyn.
We were out on that wherever that carousel thing is. Yeah,
(13:56):
and I was pretty much in just a flannel in
jeans and that was like the I think the coldest
day of filming I had ever experienced.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It was all looked cold and like you could see
the breath and you're like, that doesn't look like spray.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I remember they gave us like long John's like thermals
to wear underneath everything.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
And then we were right on the water.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, there was a breeze, a cold, cold breeze.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
It was not ideal, but yeah, the serendipity thing was
so was so cool going there.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I my nephew.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
He just came up to when I was living. I
lived in New York like a year. He came up
to New York and visited because he had never been
for his like fourteenth birthday.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
With the serendipity walked around. I kind of gave him the.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Tour of the city, but I went back in that
frozen hot chocolate.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
So good, so good. I'm so jealous.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
It was so good.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
You were also on another Rye Murphy show recently.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Oh yeah, we did a little uh pop been for
Doctor Odyssey, which is really fun.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
I mean, honestly, it was so fun. It was it
was you know, getting back with like a lot of
familiar crew. You know, Paris was directing, worked with Paris,
and then I knew Josh uh from like just old
like TCA things with Fox and when he was on
the Fringe and stuff, and yuh, it was good getting
(15:24):
to hang and work with him and uh, you know,
it was it.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Was like got to see all of all of a
lot of the crew that.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
You know, all still work with Ryan.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And we were shooting on the old sound stages to
be filmed on, which is kind of which is cool
and wild.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It was definitely weird going back on like a different
set with being like walking through it's like kind of
you know the sound stage, but everything.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
How it's built out is so as really Florence. But yeah,
everybody was really cool, Like.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Don Johnson was just like super sweet, and I Twain
was on the episode and like everybody, everybody was just sick.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
It was a really fun environment for that.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Did you know Saya from before this?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I worked with her on like a c MT uh
intro video for like CMT music or to the Taylor Swift,
like briefly when I was like I think we were
on tour, h Like I met there, did the did
the bit for the day and then I flew into
uh from there to Delaware or wherever.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
We were or something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Crazy, but I didn't really know.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
What she was like so sweet.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
We talked icon.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
We had we talked about a lot of like she's
like really interesting person to talk to, but could have
been nicer and uh, I feel like she was talking
about doing a musical or something with her music. I'm
not sure if I'm right on that, but which would
be sick.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
The dream so well, that would be definitely.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That I couldn't be wrong though, well regardless, it needs
to happen.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Don't fact check me on this.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Luckily I don't have Shanaia's number, so I can't. So
we're just going to take your sing as he got
to sing with her.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, exactly, Wait, he got to sing with her?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Do you know that story? Cord No years ago, during
Shania's first residency in Vegas, I went with Telly and
a bunch of people, like we all went and in
the back of my mind, I was like, God, wouldn't
it be great if do you remember like during Glee
we went to a really like heavy Shanaia period where
(17:34):
we all became really obsessed with Shanaia for no reason,
like out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I think you guys were a little bit late to
the party of that.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, it was the second time around. And so then
she started her Vegas residency and we went and we
were like standing up singing the whole time. We were
the only people singing there. And there was also a
country I don't know if it was a CMA Awards
or something like that. We're also in town that weekend,
(18:02):
so like one section over from us was like everybody
like Riba and like all these very famous country singers,
and we're the only people standing in the entire coliseum.
And she does this whole bit where she starts pulling
people out of the audience to come up and sing
with her.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
She has like she pulled the loudest person she could find.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
She didn't so I think they normally pull up, like
let's say it's three people, right, and so she finds
her three people and we're all like, oh my god,
Like Kelly has to Telly knows every Shanaia harmony, every
song known to man. Her husband slash manager, was sitting
the row behind us, and then like calls security over
and I see it happening out the corner of my
eye and they come and get Telly and they bring him.
(18:46):
They walk him up to the stage and they call
Shanaia over in the middle of her like talking, and
they're like, we got one more for you. So because
they ran out of room, she sits Tlly right next
to her on this like fake campfire set up up,
and then the first song whatever I think it was, like,
come on over. She leans over and like gives the
mic to Telly, and obviously he knows every harmony and
(19:11):
sings in perfect harmony with her, so she basically sings
the next three songs with him as a duet, ignores
everybody else on that stage, and like gives him the
mic and he doesn't really need the mic because that
voice carries.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And I wish I could have seen that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Oh it was we were freaking out and I didn't
take video. You weren't allowed to have video out or anything.
But he comes back and he has this like polaroid
taken with her, and he's covered in glitter because I
guess she was covered in glitter.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
He's covered in tears.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
The rest of the night, he kept getting recognized for
people that were at the show. It was like, you know,
he's a.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Star, Yeah I have. I haven't.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I saw Brittany do a residency there. Other than that,
I haven't really. Oh yeah, he's just like he's just
always excellent, like his super Bowl stuff, like his live show.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It's just like Chef's kiss.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, nobody's doing what he's doing like.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That, and then you put put his He he also
didn't allow phones and like I love that experience, like
you lock your phone in a magnetic bag and you
just dance your night away.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Like yeah, it's like when you think about it, like
as for a performer, it's it's really, yeah, you're the
fans are trying to remember the show and every bit
of it, so they film a lot of these things,
or they reput for posting whatever, But at the time
you don't ever really look at those videos when they
go into your phone. Again, No, it's probably I mean,
it is kind of odd when you're performing for a
(20:48):
bunch of people and you just see a bunch of
phone cameras and you know, like aimed at you can't
really you don't really concern people are really enjoying their
experience as much. So it's it's kind of those types
of shows you really want, like that feedback from the
audience versus just looking at a bunch of labors.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, speaking of which, I mean, you just had a
new song come out court and I text you about
it because.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You're just yeah, I can't say it enough. You're songwriter.
I know you're like, do you sound great? Like, what's
the story of this?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I love the story of the song was so I
kind of went through a kind of went through like
a two or three year phase during the pandemic where
it felt really uninspired to write anything. And I was
dating somebody that like started the pandemic too for like
three years, and I didn't really I kind of was like,
(21:45):
did I just like lose like my creative bug? What
m And I think it's I think it was just
everybody kind of bunker it up during the pandemic, so
I didn't really have a lot of time to be alone.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And then towards the end.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Of that reallylationship, there was like a little bit of
cracks in the in the relationship, and you know, she
would go out to dinner with her friends and I'd
have like an hour and a half two hours at
home alone to where I kind of start kind of
start getting you know, the ideas and stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But I think it was like a week right after
we broke up where I went into the session.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I had this idea of trying to figure out how
to get back to yourself after a breakup. And it's
kind of like, you know, like I was, you know,
doing I've been doing like relationships stuff for like three years.
You kind of lose a little bit of your individual
identities to trying to figure.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
All that stuff out.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And sure, uh, you know, I think that's that's where
I could just have that title in my head, and
I was like went into the session. Like usually when
you're going into writing stuff, it's usually stuff just kind
of flows when you're going through a you know, a
breakup or yeah thing. So uh, usually I try to,
like if I'm going through anything like that, I try
(23:03):
to just like fill my days up with creating and
doing music.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
But I started having.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
A healthy, healthy outlet.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, I started having like ideas again when I spent
I started like forcing myself to spend time alone, which
is is a challenging thing to do. Yeah, and like
put my phone away and go back to like analog
paper and pen and just a guitar to where you know,
there's probably some other inspirational like you know, influences in
(23:33):
there or whether it be.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Uh it's like space to think, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, But yeah, I just kind of went like from
like as soon as I kind of got single, I
just was like was like spending a lot of time
alone creating and doing something.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I was like, Okay, I've got something to say again.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
But it's like really hard to you know, look yourself
in the mirror and be honest and open about you know,
I feel like it's easier to write music for other
people than it is to write for myself and be like,
what do I have to say? Totally because a lot
of the time you probably don't even think the stuff
that you have to say is interesting as just an
individual exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
But yeah, that's kind of.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
A fair way behind the behind that is, you know,
just going through the ups and downs of relationships.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You're I think what you excel at though, like any
good songwriter, is that like you're able to very succinctly
in like in a relatable way, like verbalize really complex emotions.
Like everything you just said is super relatable. But to
be able to boil that down into two verses in
a chorus is really difficult and have it still have
(24:47):
as much meaning and impact without like stripping it of
all that emotion and not just being you know, some
generic lyric coming out. You're You're really good.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
At that, And I think that's like with anything like
on the in the creative uh space, Like if you
know where you're going, you can figure out how to
get there. So like I kind of I like to
work backwards to ward.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
It's like, what's the.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Button at the end of something and then I know,
I know yeah, versus I've done sessions and writing where
sometimes you go in and you're not you're not coming
in with an idea, and so sometimes it feels like
it's random until something shifts and something happens, and sometimes
it never does. So it's like if I can go
(25:29):
in with like, all right, I need to make X,
X and X and there's like more, I can figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. Do you have more music
coming out? Uh?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, I've got to.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I've got another song coming out next month, and then
after that another one and another one. So I probably have
like a full record like stacked up that I'm gonna
start putting out one a month. It's it's I've had
it for the like probably the last year, but it's
been you know, going through mixing, find it, you know,
having you know, the production done and uh and then
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also like waiting on timing because uh, the last four
years I've been filming a show to where it's you know,
three months, you're yeah, you're gone, and then you're playing
ketchup when you get back and it's Almo. You know.
It's it's a lot for your brain to kind of
do all those things at once. So but I was
able to get a build up a lot of music
and have it ready to go, so now I can
(26:23):
kind of go full steam.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Great, are you gonna do shows?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I think.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I'm doing. No, I don't. I don't do the phone
locking thing.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
But but but maybe I don't. I'm doing a show
in Atlanta, like doing a little like convention for uh
like Vampire Diaries stuff that they're Kayla and those guys
are going down there. So I'm going down there, uh Thursday.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, I'm going down to do that. And I did
that last year. It was so fun, like their fans
are just insane and yeah, yeah different different breed, but yeah,
that the song I had on the last episode of
Vampire Diaries, I usually like play that down there, and
it's like those fans absolutely just eat it up. They know,
just blew that song up and so very very grateful
(27:17):
for those guys.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
And it'll be fun.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
But I'm doing that, and then I think I don't
have anything yet on the books. I've kind of been
uh kind of just like in work release writing. I'm
like in Nashville right now, just writing and recording and
trying to finish out the rest of this record. But
I think once that's done, just like put music out,
get it out there, and then once it's out there,
start like doing live stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
That's on another season of Acapoco too.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Thanks, Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
What you gone for us? Tell us what's coming on
the show? Anything fun?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
There's a lot of fun stuff. I don't know what,
but what all they what all I can give away?
But this is I think I'm not sure. I mean
we could go another season after this. It might be
the last season.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
We don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
They kind of we find out usually, Like I think
last season we found it like five weeks before we
started filming that we were we were going back. So
but you know, the shows like it's just really really great,
like heartwarming, fun comedy, and uh, it's had this really
nice organic word of mouth kind of growth. So like
each year, the you know, the fans get a little
(28:32):
bit more, it grows a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And they get a little bit more into it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
And uh, I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Down in Mexico for three months is not a bad Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You know right now, I didn't get to see you
this last time.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Just you know, just just come on down man, I'm
thinking about moving down to port of article time.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I mean, why not. What a difference to from like
our show to going on to a show where you
go three months in like to Mexico and then you're
home for the rest of the year. It must be
so nice.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, But I do love I do love having like
twenty two. I mean you get a lot more like
you can put a lot more of like action in
ten episode seasons. But I do like the twenty two,
in the twenty two episode format.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Because it's that job security, that check exactly.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah, you know, it's like you know, you're if it
like when you're signing onto your show, you're kind of
you can't really do other shows where you know, as
as a as a as a regular, So when you're
signing on to a show having a lot of downtime,
like it's it's it's definitely different versus you know, when
we were working it was like, you know, ten months
(29:38):
out of the year at least, so you know, you
felt like your time was, you know, very useful versus
like when you have a lot of downtime, you've got
to get really creative of like stuff you're working, stuff
you're working on and so what you can't do. Also,
there's like there's so many scheduling things you don't know
because a lot of it's always up in the air.
(29:59):
But I mean that shows so fun. It's like thirty
minutes and ten episodes.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
It's want to dream.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Yeah, And like the people I get to work with
are really really cool and easy going and so great.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You did perform at els Fast this past year with
Darren you appeared. We talked to Darren about it. He
said it was a blast. Was it fun? I mean
I did it one year and it was like the
fans are just the same, and they're all Glee crossover
fans obviously because of Darren, and it's just like felt
(30:31):
like a rock concert all over again.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah. It was, uh, I mean I hadn't really ever been.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
It was a lot bigger than I expected to be,
Like to turn out the people, for sure, I mean
the talented people they had come up on stage and
performance for performances was incredible.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
But it was so fun. I just came in for
we were trying to.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Me learning lyrics is like if I haven't done it
in a while, it was like it takes like I
have to listen to the song a million times, and
so before that weekend before I was just like listening
to the Billy Joel moving out over and over because
I was like, I don't know what my parts were.
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
It was.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
It was so fun though, just literally no no rehearsal,
just kind of like popped in and just.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, we pitched this to Darren. We're kind of we're
half kidding, half not, but we pitched to Darren doing
Loser Like Me. That the second version that we aught
you and Kevin and me and Darren did.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Together, one hundred episode version.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, and then Breakaway and what was the other one,
Kevin that we had pitched, But we'd love it if
you would do it with us, half kidding, half not.
What's the do you remember doing that one?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
It seems like the version of Loser Like Me. No,
go listen to it, remember your part, and then we'll
see you at Elson.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I mean you may think that I'm a break.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Showing I Did we actually do that on the show.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, it was the four of us.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I I man, gosh, I really need to go back
and watch this.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It's just like riding a bike. You'll know it's fine.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah, there is stuff that I see from that, like
that show that's like that you know, I'll get tagged
on on just like little video clips. I'm like, oh man,
somebody's like performances like hold up.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Like and they're they're a lot better than I remember
them being.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I mean obviously just like we're filming everything on film
and working with a you know, an infinite list of
talented people. But I forget like how like how how
like the quality was like on a lot of those things,
like the performers, like getting to watch up close, like
(33:06):
even that that number that Matt and Harry did where
they're I think it was like a.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Were they doing on the auditorium stage like where they have.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
A like like wallet walking up walls?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, m h yeah, it's insane wild. Yeah, especially like
when we got to season five and we're about to
go to season six, where we remember absolutely nothing but
the numbers. I think we all became really critical of
the show, probably because we were, you know, unhappy for
other reasons of like you know, Corey and things. But
(33:42):
going back and watching it now, it was like every
episode had a moment like that You're like, oh wow,
this number was really good.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, I think you can't help but get better when
you do something, so you know, so much like so
often like that. You know, I think everybody's bar starts
getting higher and higher and higher. So then you uh,
you know, it breeds a lot of really great work.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
But I mean there's some numbers that you know, some
of the dance numbers that you were just wheeling around
through and like, you know, I was like, man, this
this guy, this guy's forearms are probably exhausted. There was
like one scene I'm seeing you like get launched into
the pool. I'm like, oh man, this, I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
That was improved too, good old Eric.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
They are like so many things that would have gone
into doing that had they written that into the script.
But Steltz is like, just doing.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That was like cord gets a do fun things.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Let me do this. That was great. Though, It's like
I think the highlight.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I think there's probably several little gifts out there if
you just just launching yourself into the pool.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I felt like when that aired, nobody caught it, and
then it became like an internet thing a couple of
years ago. It's like, yeah, great, people are seeing it.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
But then there's like also like really cool stuff where
they use you to do like stuff like the fantasy
stuff like safety dance and all this other stuff that
you're like, oh man, that's ah, it's really cool to
see you actually be able to use those skills, because
probably one of the more qualified dancers that we had
on the show that was, uh.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, do you miss dancing? Do you miss dance class?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
And no, I don't, just because you know, it's like
it's like hearing your voice back on a recording. You know,
when you think you're doing something in time or or
you think you're aware of how your body moves, and then.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You're and you watch it back and you're like, that's
not what I sound like.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Yeah, it's like, but watching it back, it's like that's
how I'm moving, oh man. And you're like, our body
looks so weird, and you're like, thank god that the
editors we had were amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You could cut around.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yeah. It's it's one of those things to where I
I am like I'm coordinated in certain things, but like
like I got a lot better as time went on,
but oh yeah, my body fell so foreign too.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
How it moved or how I was supposed to make
it move.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You're like, can we learn? Yeah. You went from like
having like a baseball scholarship to do in Windy City.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
You know, Okay, okay, like I can figure out a
body role. It's just let's just throw that in.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
They're like, just do that, cord, you just do you
figure it out. Everybody just had to do free form
rock out and do their own things. At some point
they just learned that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I mean I would have I mean I would always
have like Harry trying to show me isolation tricks on
the side, and.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
It's like a little bit.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I mean, yeah, what season five have you? Guys just
finished the whole season? Yeah, it's what's the most ridiculous
thing you've seen?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Oh my god, there's a lot because just remember context,
you know, like we had just gone through all that stuff.
The show had to be.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Passed away, right, Yeah, And so we went on like
like a two episode break so the writers could figure
out what was happening. We did the Beatles episodes where
you were dating Penny. You guys did applause, we did
roar Like hours were great.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
The story was a little crazy some of the time,
but like the musical numbers were like the music was.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
A plus plus in this season, if you.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Ask me, that's all we had. Remember like Roor You're
swinging on the vines.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
And definitely I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Of Mary's Boy Child with Alex Nole the Christmas episode.
The Christmas episode was too much.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
And then with City of Angels with my one of
my favorites.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Obviously, there's when we did I Love l A, right, Yeah, yeah,
like Pink's hot Dogs and exactly you know what it was.
It was like I got to do all the tourists
tourist things and for the first.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
For years because he moved to l A and just
like got booked.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah. Well yeah, that like you know, like the tourists
side of things is like when you live in a
place is probably the most exhausting.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, you don't do that stuff I don't want to do.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
And also you're like on a hit TV show. You
don't want to be going to like the Grumman's like
Chinese theater at that.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Point, and then they put on us, They put us
on like the most of us.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I just remember I got so sun burned that day.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, everybody's the tourist hats, the props they gave us.
We did puppet Master where they had the the puppets
made after us, yep. And then and then we went
to Full New York, which was like when you and
Darren did all that stuff, And I loved watching that
because I wasn't in most of it.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
So yeah, I think I think part of part of
a lot of that stuff, like the all the crazy, wild,
different things we did and got to do, probably comes
from having twenty two episodes, because you know, it's you know,
it's very much like you have so much time to
fill bill. You know, like you see it a lot
in sitcoms, you know, like How I Met Your Mother.
It's like, Okay, now Barney has an episode where he's
(39:13):
in space, you know where he's you know, it's it's
it's it's like it's a fun side episode that doesn't necessarily.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Have it's entertainment.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah, which that's one of my favorite things about TV.
It's like, you know, it's just pure just entertainment and fun.
And now everything is so story packed where it's like
if you miss an episode, you're kind of screwed.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
True, it's like Game of Thrones, happened, and everyone's like,
we need to be this dense.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I didn't watch I didn't watch Game of Thrones until
it was like five seasons are out, so.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I I had so much great great like I watched.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
I kind of binge watching it when we were on
the road on tour because I was like, you have
you know, seven hours eight hours of driving time? Wow,
And I got an to it. I got into it that.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Way, but so jealous. I wish I could watch it
again for the first time.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
What a special show.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Rewatching it. Rewatching it's fun too. I mean you pick
up a lot of things you might you might have dropped.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I rewatched. I rewatched all.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
The Severns right before I started season two, just to
kind of and I'm never seen it.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Have you never seen No?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
No, I know I just started it recently and like
didn't get that far and was like, I need to
like go back and actually like watch us now, and.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I feel like you'll love it. Yeah, you got you
got it.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
You got a lot of you got a lot of
things taking up your time.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
John, I know, but I'm you know, I'm into it now.
I have a little bit more time, Like people are sleeping,
so like, I feel like I could get into it,
and everybody's talking about it. So it's just one of
those that I really want to see court.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Isn't it crazy? She has two kids?
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Know, I was just about to ask you to have
another kid, don't you?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I do?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I have a son now as it's just oh.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Yeah, because last time I saw you were closer.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That's right? Yeah, supports the baby and dog whisperer. So
I could hand off both of my children and my
late dog and they would just like fall into court time.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
I love I love kids and dogs. I had. I
have two little nephews.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
I have four nephews, but I have two little.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Ones that one's four and the other one is two.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
And I started taking the two year old to go golfing,
got him a little putter and then let him drive
the golf cart and he's like obsessed.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
So a lot of fun, like the best uncle lay dates.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah that's so cute. I bet your family loves having
you there, right, Yeah, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
It's great also because like you don't realize when you're
when you're living. I mean, I'm kind of split my
time back and forth from La to Nashville, but you
don't realize when you're like fully in La like those
those early years for the kids go by quick. Yeah,
so you miss a.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Lot of a little lot of that, but.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
You have a lot of there's a lot of kids. Brothers.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Talking to one of my friends about doing like a
time share adopted baby, you know, just like it's like
one of my really good buddies where it's like, you know,
just a just two dads just trying to have a kid.
But you know, both dads are just bros. You know
half the year, you know, you take the kid half
to your all take them.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Uh, that seems that seems that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Do you want a boyfriend?
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Are you just trying to say you want a husband?
Speaker 4 (42:22):
No, I was just I was just I just thought
it would be a funny, a funny bit to where
it's like, hey, you know, if if you haven't, if
you haven't figured out your life partner yet, you can
just go with somebody that you've been you know, friends
with forever and just yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
You know that's not going to go on.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
We can do whatever we want these days.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Yeah, I'm sure, baby, you know, I'm I'm I'm work
shopping it. You know, it might end up just being
like a wacky rom com idea, but.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Honestly not a bad idea either. Take either.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
What's that's how I prefer to have a baby? I
would do it in that case. Yeah, timeshare.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Well, that's why being like a uncle's so great because
you can kind of you know, you can kind of
come and go for the fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
And yeah, you're not so tired half the year, you know,
like you discipline them. Yeah right, there's the fun uncle
all the time.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Well there's also like my nieces and nephews always responded
to me disciplining much more than they would their own parents.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
But yeah, nobody expects their parents nowadays.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, that's right. Nowadays.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Nowadays, you know it's like because no parents are laying
down the law, you know, that's true. I'm like, man,
I would keep this kid in line like that.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
A lot of soft parenting, a lot of you.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Know, spoil the rod, does it? Spoiler rod? Spare the
child or spare the rod, spoil the child. That's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah, spare the rod, spoil the child.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
There was a it was a fifties phrase then they
used to like, you know, hit kids in public school,
like you know, the teachers would rulers, give the kids
as the rulers and stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
No, that doesn't that doesn't know, we don't need to
do that.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
But my grandma, I think my grandma was born in
like the twenties or thirties. Uh.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
When she was alive, she was telling me these stories.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
She's like, oh, yeah, we used to make your dad
and his brothers or whatever go out to the yard
and pick out a switch.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
I was like, what a psychological Oh my god. It's like,
you know, it's like that's this cycle.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I mean, gosh, talk about trauma, talk about trauma. I
mean I got I mean, I just got like a
yard work, right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
If I if I didn't, if I didn't like landscape,
the house perfectly, you know, that was another week yard work.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I meant to send you a video I was. I
was in Colorado and Keystone a couple months ago and
staying with some friends and they took us on this
like horse drawn sleigh ride to like a restaurant in
the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
It was amazing. And this little house like little restaurant,
there's a there who sings, who serenades you the entire time.
And he has this really extensive song list and there
was a Paul over Street original in that song list.
Oh I love that, And I was like, oh my god,
I got to get him to play.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Do you remember what song it was?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
It was you know what's like, it's super famous. Now
I'm blinking on it.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
She thinks my tracktre sexy.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Nope, slow song when you say nothing at all, Yes, yep,
it's the classic. I was like, I can't because you know,
he had like a hundred songs in there, and I
was and like one of the top ones was that,
and I was like, that's right, come on over Street.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
I went to a to a restaurant where there was
there was it was like a like a cello or
a cello and a guitar or something and they would
come over to everybody's table and they would like serenade them.
But there's it was like I felt like Larry David
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yes, Curby enthusiastic.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
There's like an episode where he's like kind of she's
the guy who's coming over, and it was like right
in the middle where in like this like like in
tit's conversation at this like this this this like Italian
like very operatic singer comes over and starts talking and
we all just kind of like kind of just like
(46:18):
had to stop. And like one of the guys who
was telling the story got.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
So frustrated when the tray pass comes back.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
But it happened like there wasn't a lot of people
at this restaurant, and so it happened like he came
over to our table like three or four times.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Okay, Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Okay, okay, you're great, you're talpted.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
But like leave us alone.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Oh my god, lord, we all felt like such keep it.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Put that in the Timeshare baby script. It's a good moment.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Oh yeah, the Timescare baby script is. I think it's
it's getting green let for sure. Yeah, I'm green lighting it.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, somewhere somewhere.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
I'm going to finance that. We're gonna shoot it on
an iPhone.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Great, that's it.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
I'll play the baby, Kevin, you can play the baby.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I'll play the time Share Kevin.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
You know what, Kevin, Kevin has a knack for just
finding roles where he's on wheels and you just stroll
him around and like you know, you know, it's a
lot of like credit to a lot of credit credit
to you, Kevin, because uh, there's so much energy in
(47:38):
acting that comes from movement and uh like performance wise,
to be able to do that while sitting down for
one percent of the time, that's it's a lot harder.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Than it you would think.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yes, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
Unless you're sitting down playing video games with me.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
That was honestly, I Jenna, it was so great you
guys got just because we also like, oh, so for
this your motivation is zone out and play video games.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Just don't forget your line.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah, which is like fine, Like it was, Yeah, it
was great.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
I love those. But like the man scenes that you
guys did, especially in the STV one, it's just like
very male heavy storylines.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
And like.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
And then the scene where I love the scene with
you and Mercedes where which episode was it was it
Old Dog New Tricks when you oh you get the
dog McConaughey, Yeah, and he's eating like all of her stuff.
Is that's the scene right when you're playing videos show.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
It's so good and it's torn up and she comes
in the house and then the dog comes down the
stairs with the hair.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
By the way that season. They put me in like
a model house thing for like right episode and by
the end of the episode, I was out. But like
one of the guys that we worked there, who you know,
remain friends with, and he like super sweet guy.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
It was like Charles Melton.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yeah, I forgot he was on it. And then irror
stories with him and I was like, wait, why did
he never bring this up to me?
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yeah? I ran into him.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
I ran into him something and I was like, hey, man,
how's it going, Like uh, and like it all came back.
I forgot that you came on for that episode. He's
the sweetest, He's such a nice guy.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, there's I gotta I gotta re rewatch some of
that stuff. It is.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
It is a fun one actually, when you know what
you're getting into and your expectations are like low, and
like the music's really good and the performances are really good,
and like you just we were giving everybody just like
a little bit of grace the season, the writers, the creators,
the actors, like everybody just gets a little bit of
grace this season because we've been through so much. And
(49:52):
then to watch it back, you're like, wow, we did that.
You know we got through it.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
I mean, it's definitely a different it's a different thing
that I you know, it's a different experience when you're
dealing with all that stuff on.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Top of like the yeah, everything emotional stuff that we
were going through. Yeah, personal, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
I feel like for some reason I thought that that
was around season four, but I guess.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
It was end before, at the beginning of five or
between the two. Yeah, essentially a crazy time.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
What happened in six you you guys got on the way.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
We haven't done it.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
We have zero I didn't tell you.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
The only thing I remember the finale episodes. That's the
only thing I really remember. I think the last two
that's it.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, we're gonna have.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Some of the newbies on and there is I think
we did over seven hundred musical numbers.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Thinking about that now, is like that.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
It would I think that would be so intimidating or
daunting for any production to do that many.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah. Yeah, we also had such a good like pipeline,
like we had that down.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
It was kind of plug in and play.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
After a while, nobody's been able to replicate that, I think,
because like we just happened to have all the right
people making those decisions.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
And yeah, from like the people that were doing the music,
like they would have a song turned around in a night,
and then you have like Andrew Mitchell running around up
and down platforms back.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
I mean we would do like sometimes three three songs
a day.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, like we had like the best people in those
positions possible, like make all that happen like it was
a happy accident.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
I don't know if you guys are seeing this.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
There's like a whole new wave of kids discovering the
show now because I mean it's streaming.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
It's kind of stuff lives forever.
Speaker 4 (51:38):
So it's like, yeah, it's like a big second wave
when stuff is kind of living on those platforms.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
I feel like now it's like a third wave.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
Yeah, very because there was like a while it was
on Netflix for a while, and then it went to
Hulu and Disney Now and Fox.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Disney brought Fox and all that stuff, so and everybody's
just all over those platforms.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, everybody buy and everybody. Well, Cord, thanks so much
for hanging out with us again coming back on and congrats,
like you're just you're still killing it the music.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Everyone.
Speaker 4 (52:18):
Yeah, thanks for the thanks for the plug on this
on the music. I'll send you some stuff, some sneak
peeks of some of the new stuff, but it's please do.
I'm super I'm super stoked on it. And there's uh,
you know, I'm still kind of ironing out the track
list order and stuff like that, but I've I'm pretty
stoked on the stuff that I've got.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
So you're great.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
You're great.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah, thank you guys for having me on here. I
love you guys.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Thanks for taking so much time. I would love to
see you all.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
Right, Love you guys, Love you, Cord.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
Thanks Cord, Love you sweet man.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
That was so nice to catch up with with one
of the course, that was just like a FaceTime that no, literally,
you guys like we were just like chilling on a
phone call. Well that's Chord, Chord, thanks for your time.
He's he's writing. He's literally one of the best songwriters
we know.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Honestly, I can't go listen to the song and it's
so good. And if you haven't watched Acapoco, go watch it.
There's a new season coming and it's.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
A relief that he doesn't remember anything either, you know.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yeah, See, it's not just us everyone, and that's what
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. We
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
A vip AN MVP of season five, cord Over Street
is here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We remind him of a lot of things. There's a
lot of thoughts involved, but Cord is just Chords here.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got a lot going on. We have a great
little catchup. Yeah, he's so busy, and we quiz him
on what he remembers about season five, and let me
tell you, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Just like us.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So get ready buckle up for the best. The person
who could have chemistry with an aunt anything and an
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Speaker 1 (00:53):
Cord Over Street. Thanks for popping on, Cord.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, yeah, me get to see you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We've we've been. We just finished watching season five. I
don't know how much of it you remember? Zero Yeah,
y'all go.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
To New York only New York for a while.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, I don't remember much of it, to be honest.
I'll see I'll get tagged and stuff here and there.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And I'm like, oh, I forgot we did that?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh yeah, dank a couple of highlights. Kevin was like syphilis, yes,
thank you, Chamydia closed.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Okay, Chami and fake life and in real.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Life, wow wow everyone get tested. Get no.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I don't really remember much of the season five, to
be honest.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, you sort of took over as the The beginning
of the season was awful, you know, like we were
going through a really tough time personally, and so the
show had to be rethought out. We were just trying
to like get through our days. And then I am
sort of became the de facto new like leader of
(02:07):
you know, like I don't know of all of us, right,
like sort of stepped in and like took over Finn's
mantle a bit and then went to New York and
we brought back Sam sades. Like you had a lot
to do actually in this season, Like you became and
you were fine and you were dramatic.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And didn't watch it neither Tony. But I wasn't in it,
That's why. But you were, like you are the star.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You're acting your ass off court.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Oh thanks, guys. You guys are sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Even when like you had that crazy storyline where you
and Mercedes were dating. Sam and Mercedes were dating and
you had that crazy storyline where you like met her friends,
and you had like all these very cringing microaggression things
that you had to do and pull off, and yet
(02:56):
you were still so charming and so good and so funny,
and even despite all of the wild storylines, it was
like you were just really really great.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I mean, I remember there's like one moment from that
that's like still cracks me up because I'm like, I
don't know if you'd be able to get away with it,
but I was like, I think I was able to
get away with it because you're just you have to
just just dive into it. But it was just like
one of those things where I remember it was like
I feel like it was raining, but we were on
(03:26):
the lot and walking on like running across the street
to meet her background singers.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yes, And in the script that.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Was like he does a Kevin Hart doing a Chris
Tucker or one of the other the other way around.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And it was like, oh no, the line was.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Cloud it would take me. Oh they kiss that fat ass. No,
that's like the first thing I say to.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It was like, no, it's in there.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
It's all in there, And maybe they cut it out
later they went they.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Oh my brd on TV. I mean, I just loved
the where TV was back then.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
You could get away with saying anything, and it's like, yeah, comedy,
it's as soon as you put.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
A filter up on comedy.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, you kind of lose a little bit of the
natural dumb things that people would say in a room
or you know, just pitching ideas. But there's a lot
of there's a lot of moments in that that season
probably just rewatching would feel like the first time seeing it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
We also had one of our favorite nationals, which was
City of Angels, so we all went to La. We
did the Boss in La. We did still haven't found
what I'm looking for a fan favorite. You dated Penny.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Wild. I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That storyline was also great. We like to say that
you could have chemistry with the Wall. It's like no
matter who they put you with, it's insane that like
every it's and we're not just like trying to like
fake it till you make it. You know, no, you
can't fake it that much. Cord, like, you just are
so good with everyone, even if it's not romantic, Like
(05:18):
you and Darren have this like really great friendship, likeam
was it was so good.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Oh yeah, I mean it's just like, yeah, it's like
there was definitely a it was like I kind of
I've seen in a while, but like I remember like
there was like a shifting moment where something shifted and
I was like, you probably all both know this, but
there's like a little switch that flicks where it's like
something turns on and it's like you're in it. You're
(05:46):
there and it's in it. It kind of you know
when you you find the sweet spot assay in your
performances and stuff, And that's like I at first I
didn't really know what I was doing, and then I
kind of kind of like was able to recognize that
feeling and then everything kind of started getting a lot
better and a little bit more dialed in.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I remember even watching you like how you worked. It's
funny you say that because like watching you work in
season five, I have distinct memories of like something is
different for him, like you did understand in a deeper level,
and like seeing you flip that switch, like you would
take bigger swings at things. So like the comedy was
like getting bigger and better because I think that you
(06:31):
like trusted that you knew what you were doing, and
you could take bigger swings at certain things, and that
also made it even more impactful when you had these
like really nice adult conversations like between Sam and Mercedes
later on in the season and New York.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Where there's just like some different layers and contrasts, And
I think a lot of that kind of came with
just following a bunch of the writers and really funny
people around and just picking their brain watching like obviously
being in a cast with so many talented people watching
them up close and kind of seeing and then there's
(07:06):
a thing that's like you feel like if you go
really big, it comes off cheesing, doesn't work. But then
there's like I watched a lot of stuff with Jim
Carrey is like, oh it's not you can go as
big as you want, as long as you believe it
as much as anybody else.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yes, And uh, yeah it was. I gotta go back
and check that out.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
You should. It's a really good season for you. I mean,
in general, it was actually a really fun season to
watch because I I became teena graduated halfway through. So
we did first well, let's talk about Trio, because Trio
was when we did the high school, the lock in
with with Lauren and we had our infamous makeout session.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
They got cut, but it was just so.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It made it.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
There's just the closest part of it.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
He had just kept pushing more and more.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Like we have footage and we like that didn't make it, but.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
It was like, it's probably the craziest, the craziest thing
I shot on that shows not accurate.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I think I think with it ended.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Up being really tame versus what it was.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yes, I agreed.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And then your bus, your bus when you go to
New York and you're pursuing your acting, your modeling career,
and you're dating Mercedes. You guys are living together, and
the bus in the in the episode where you cheat
on Mercedes, you cheat on Mercedes, right, and you're naked
in like every scene literally you have like your shirt
(08:44):
off in every scene.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Were you miserable? Now, sweet Potatoes?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Now I look back on it and I'm like, you know,
you know, I got there at some point in my life.
It's a good it's a good you know, Yes, yes,
it's it's a terrible reminder to where it's it's almost
impossible to live up to that at thirty six, but
you know, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You thought, like we thought we weren't looking our best,
you know what I mean. You look back, you're like,
I was my best.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, I think. I think that's it story.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Of my life.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But I felt bad for you during the process of
that because it was like, oh, Kurts Cords shirtless again
in this episode, and you're just like, oh god, no.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I think at the time I was I was I
would get done working and I would when I would
get home, I would put on like a forty pounds
vest and like two or three pairs of sweats and
walk on an incline for like an hour and then
get in the sauna and then try to go to bed.
But like you know, I was hungry, brain was wired
from all of the day and you know, working out
(09:45):
late at night.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
So I would be doing that like regular, I forget about.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
All that stuff, and I'm like, oh man, that was
like I probably didn't need to go that hard. I
was like twenty four at the time, and my metabolism
was doing what it was doing.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah exactly. But it's like we were surrounded by but
like we would hear all the stories of like oh,
this person did this when they were on this show,
and this person did this to be in a movie
and we're shirtless, so like you would just like take
all that in and be like, I guess I have
to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
We're just like in it, you know.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, well, you know, things live on the internet for forever, so.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Exactly, yeah, exactly. It's hard when you know, in like
three weeks a couple of million people are going to
see you shirtless, so you want to try to look
your best.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
You know what's crazy now, it's like you look at
like the lowest the ratings, you know, ratings were on
the show like that, and people are like, oh no,
like kind of you know, we're not panicked, but like
they're just like, yeah, you know, you're comparing the highest
to the lowest, and it's like now, like our lowest
would be unbelievable ratings for TV show.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You also, you were growing your hair out epically during
this season and then you cut your hair on the show.
Do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, I get really like tired of having long hair.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And did you did you cut it?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I think they I remember they wrote they wrote it
in because we were cross shooting a couple of different episodes.
So at one point when me and Darren were doing uh,
I think best day of my life in New York,
we did it in Times Square.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I was wearing a wig and oh yeah in that
scene and because I cut it, I cut it in
LA before we went to shoot, and then then that's
that episode was right before.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I loved speaking of New York. I loved like when
we all got to do that episode, the Chlamydia episode.
We were at Serendipity a bunch, oh yeah, And and
like you and I got to film a lot of
scenes over a couple episodes were just like playing video
games and like being like boys like lads, lads, lads,
which we never really got to do, which it was
really I never got to do that, and it was
(11:54):
really fun, Like you and I had so much more
stuff to do in the back half of the season,
like with the.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
And yeah, there's a lot of fun stuff in there.
And also like shooting in New York was so cool
because normally we would you know, LA shuts down when
we were shoot in l A and we would we
finish shooting out in the freezing cold at like one
o'clock in the morning. Everything's so open in New York,
so you know, we could go out and get drinks
and kind of hang and actually have get to have
(12:21):
a little fun outside of oh that, but yeah, I
loved I loved filming in New York.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It was so much fun that I was. I forgot
that too, because like what we were shooting in New York, it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Was almost because crane.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, it was good memory, a steel trap memory.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It's, yeah, I just remember weird things here and there.
Most of the stuff I've I forget until like you know,
it's kind of like that. I feel like I forget
like ninety percent of things until I start talking with
people about it, and then it's like comes back, like
you're in a therapy session.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Right, maybe I did Thanks for going to do this.
We could at Yeah, but like when we were shooting
in New York, we weren't doing that much. So we
were doing like exteriors, so like those aren't really extensively
like long scenes, so you're shooting a little piece here,
a little piece there, and so we could like go.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Out and do other Yeah, you weren't doing.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We weren't doing sixteen hour days like we would be
doing in La you know.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
And it was also so much of those location dependent
you know, and all right, this is set at night time,
so you know, we have the day to where sometimes
I think we started like two or three o'clock in
the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
But there was there was the one like it was
like I think it was early March or late February,
but it was what it was set like in the
springtime in New York. So I remember like kind of
like right when it was starting to get warm, but
it was freezing and we were out on that in Brooklyn.
We were out on that wherever that carousel thing is. Yeah,
(13:56):
and I was pretty much in just a flannel in
jeans and that was like the I think the coldest
day of filming I had ever experienced.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It was all looked cold and like you could see
the breath and you're like, that doesn't look like spray.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I remember they gave us like long John's like thermals
to wear underneath everything.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
And then we were right on the water.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, there was a breeze, a cold, cold breeze.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
It was not ideal, but yeah, the serendipity thing was
so was so cool going there.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I my nephew.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
He just came up to when I was living. I
lived in New York like a year. He came up
to New York and visited because he had never been
for his like fourteenth birthday.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
With the serendipity walked around. I kind of gave him the.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Tour of the city, but I went back in that
frozen hot chocolate.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
So good, so good. I'm so jealous.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
It was so good.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
You were also on another Rye Murphy show recently.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Oh yeah, we did a little uh pop been for
Doctor Odyssey, which is really fun.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
I mean, honestly, it was so fun. It was it
was you know, getting back with like a lot of
familiar crew. You know, Paris was directing, worked with Paris,
and then I knew Josh uh from like just old
like TCA things with Fox and when he was on
the Fringe and stuff, and yuh, it was good getting
(15:24):
to hang and work with him and uh, you know,
it was it.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Was like got to see all of all of a
lot of the crew that.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
You know, all still work with Ryan.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And we were shooting on the old sound stages to
be filmed on, which is kind of which is cool
and wild.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It was definitely weird going back on like a different
set with being like walking through it's like kind of
you know the sound stage, but everything.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
How it's built out is so as really Florence. But yeah,
everybody was really cool, Like.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Don Johnson was just like super sweet, and I Twain
was on the episode and like everybody, everybody was just sick.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
It was a really fun environment for that.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Did you know Saya from before this?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I worked with her on like a c MT uh
intro video for like CMT music or to the Taylor Swift,
like briefly when I was like I think we were
on tour, h Like I met there, did the did
the bit for the day and then I flew into
uh from there to Delaware or wherever.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
We were or something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Crazy, but I didn't really know.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
What she was like so sweet.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
We talked icon.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
We had we talked about a lot of like she's
like really interesting person to talk to, but could have
been nicer and uh, I feel like she was talking
about doing a musical or something with her music. I'm
not sure if I'm right on that, but which would
be sick.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
The dream so well, that would be definitely.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That I couldn't be wrong though, well regardless, it needs
to happen.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Don't fact check me on this.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Luckily I don't have Shanaia's number, so I can't. So
we're just going to take your sing as he got
to sing with her.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, exactly, Wait, he got to sing with her?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Do you know that story? Cord No years ago, during
Shania's first residency in Vegas, I went with Telly and
a bunch of people, like we all went and in
the back of my mind, I was like, God, wouldn't
it be great if do you remember like during Glee
we went to a really like heavy Shanaia period where
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we all became really obsessed with Shanaia for no reason,
like out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I think you guys were a little bit late to
the party of that.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, it was the second time around. And so then
she started her Vegas residency and we went and we
were like standing up singing the whole time. We were
the only people singing there. And there was also a
country I don't know if it was a CMA Awards
or something like that. We're also in town that weekend,
(18:02):
so like one section over from us was like everybody
like Riba and like all these very famous country singers,
and we're the only people standing in the entire coliseum.
And she does this whole bit where she starts pulling
people out of the audience to come up and sing
with her.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
She has like she pulled the loudest person she could find.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
She didn't so I think they normally pull up, like
let's say it's three people, right, and so she finds
her three people and we're all like, oh my god,
Like Kelly has to Telly knows every Shanaia harmony, every
song known to man. Her husband slash manager, was sitting
the row behind us, and then like calls security over
and I see it happening out the corner of my
eye and they come and get Telly and they bring him.
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They walk him up to the stage and they call
Shanaia over in the middle of her like talking, and
they're like, we got one more for you. So because
they ran out of room, she sits Tlly right next
to her on this like fake campfire set up up,
and then the first song whatever I think it was, like,
come on over. She leans over and like gives the
mic to Telly, and obviously he knows every harmony and
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sings in perfect harmony with her, so she basically sings
the next three songs with him as a duet, ignores
everybody else on that stage, and like gives him the
mic and he doesn't really need the mic because that
voice carries.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And I wish I could have seen that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Oh it was we were freaking out and I didn't
take video. You weren't allowed to have video out or anything.
But he comes back and he has this like polaroid
taken with her, and he's covered in glitter because I
guess she was covered in glitter.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
He's covered in tears.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
The rest of the night, he kept getting recognized for
people that were at the show. It was like, you know,
he's a.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Star, Yeah I have. I haven't.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I saw Brittany do a residency there. Other than that,
I haven't really. Oh yeah, he's just like he's just
always excellent, like his super Bowl stuff, like his live show.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It's just like Chef's kiss.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, nobody's doing what he's doing like.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That, and then you put put his He he also
didn't allow phones and like I love that experience, like
you lock your phone in a magnetic bag and you
just dance your night away.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Like yeah, it's like when you think about it, like
as for a performer, it's it's really, yeah, you're the
fans are trying to remember the show and every bit
of it, so they film a lot of these things,
or they reput for posting whatever, But at the time
you don't ever really look at those videos when they
go into your phone. Again, No, it's probably I mean,
it is kind of odd when you're performing for a
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bunch of people and you just see a bunch of
phone cameras and you know, like aimed at you can't
really you don't really concern people are really enjoying their
experience as much. So it's it's kind of those types
of shows you really want, like that feedback from the
audience versus just looking at a bunch of labors.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, speaking of which, I mean, you just had a
new song come out court and I text you about
it because.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You're just yeah, I can't say it enough. You're songwriter.
I know you're like, do you sound great? Like, what's
the story of this?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I love the story of the song was so I
kind of went through a kind of went through like
a two or three year phase during the pandemic where
it felt really uninspired to write anything. And I was
dating somebody that like started the pandemic too for like
three years, and I didn't really I kind of was like,
(21:45):
did I just like lose like my creative bug? What
m And I think it's I think it was just
everybody kind of bunker it up during the pandemic, so
I didn't really have a lot of time to be alone.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And then towards the end.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Of that reallylationship, there was like a little bit of
cracks in the in the relationship, and you know, she
would go out to dinner with her friends and I'd
have like an hour and a half two hours at
home alone to where I kind of start kind of
start getting you know, the ideas and stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But I think it was like a week right after
we broke up where I went into the session.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I had this idea of trying to figure out how
to get back to yourself after a breakup. And it's
kind of like, you know, like I was, you know,
doing I've been doing like relationships stuff for like three years.
You kind of lose a little bit of your individual
identities to trying to figure.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
All that stuff out.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And sure, uh, you know, I think that's that's where
I could just have that title in my head, and
I was like went into the session. Like usually when
you're going into writing stuff, it's usually stuff just kind
of flows when you're going through a you know, a
breakup or yeah thing. So uh, usually I try to,
like if I'm going through anything like that, I try
(23:03):
to just like fill my days up with creating and
doing music.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
But I started having.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
A healthy, healthy outlet.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, I started having like ideas again when I spent
I started like forcing myself to spend time alone, which
is is a challenging thing to do. Yeah, and like
put my phone away and go back to like analog
paper and pen and just a guitar to where you know,
there's probably some other inspirational like you know, influences in
(23:33):
there or whether it be.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Uh it's like space to think, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, But yeah, I just kind of went like from
like as soon as I kind of got single, I
just was like was like spending a lot of time
alone creating and doing something.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I was like, Okay, I've got something to say again.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
But it's like really hard to you know, look yourself
in the mirror and be honest and open about you know,
I feel like it's easier to write music for other
people than it is to write for myself and be like,
what do I have to say? Totally because a lot
of the time you probably don't even think the stuff
that you have to say is interesting as just an
individual exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
But yeah, that's kind of.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
A fair way behind the behind that is, you know,
just going through the ups and downs of relationships.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You're I think what you excel at though, like any
good songwriter, is that like you're able to very succinctly
in like in a relatable way, like verbalize really complex emotions.
Like everything you just said is super relatable. But to
be able to boil that down into two verses in
a chorus is really difficult and have it still have
(24:47):
as much meaning and impact without like stripping it of
all that emotion and not just being you know, some
generic lyric coming out. You're You're really good.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
At that, And I think that's like with anything like
on the in the creative uh space, Like if you
know where you're going, you can figure out how to
get there. So like I kind of I like to
work backwards to ward.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
It's like, what's the.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Button at the end of something and then I know,
I know yeah, versus I've done sessions and writing where
sometimes you go in and you're not you're not coming
in with an idea, and so sometimes it feels like
it's random until something shifts and something happens, and sometimes
it never does. So it's like if I can go
(25:29):
in with like, all right, I need to make X,
X and X and there's like more, I can figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. Do you have more music
coming out? Uh?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, I've got to.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I've got another song coming out next month, and then
after that another one and another one. So I probably have
like a full record like stacked up that I'm gonna
start putting out one a month. It's it's I've had
it for the like probably the last year, but it's
been you know, going through mixing, find it, you know,
having you know, the production done and uh and then
(26:02):
also like waiting on timing because uh, the last four
years I've been filming a show to where it's you know,
three months, you're yeah, you're gone, and then you're playing
ketchup when you get back and it's Almo. You know.
It's it's a lot for your brain to kind of
do all those things at once. So but I was
able to get a build up a lot of music
and have it ready to go, so now I can
(26:23):
kind of go full steam.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Great, are you gonna do shows?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I think.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I'm doing. No, I don't. I don't do the phone
locking thing.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
But but but maybe I don't. I'm doing a show
in Atlanta, like doing a little like convention for uh
like Vampire Diaries stuff that they're Kayla and those guys
are going down there. So I'm going down there, uh Thursday.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, I'm going down to do that. And I did
that last year. It was so fun, like their fans
are just insane and yeah, yeah different different breed, but yeah,
that the song I had on the last episode of
Vampire Diaries, I usually like play that down there, and
it's like those fans absolutely just eat it up. They know,
just blew that song up and so very very grateful
(27:17):
for those guys.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
And it'll be fun.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
But I'm doing that, and then I think I don't
have anything yet on the books. I've kind of been
uh kind of just like in work release writing. I'm
like in Nashville right now, just writing and recording and
trying to finish out the rest of this record. But
I think once that's done, just like put music out,
get it out there, and then once it's out there,
start like doing live stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
That's on another season of Acapoco too.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Thanks, Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
What you gone for us? Tell us what's coming on
the show? Anything fun?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
There's a lot of fun stuff. I don't know what,
but what all they what all I can give away?
But this is I think I'm not sure. I mean
we could go another season after this. It might be
the last season.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
We don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
They kind of we find out usually, Like I think
last season we found it like five weeks before we
started filming that we were we were going back. So
but you know, the shows like it's just really really great,
like heartwarming, fun comedy, and uh, it's had this really
nice organic word of mouth kind of growth. So like
each year, the you know, the fans get a little
(28:32):
bit more, it grows a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And they get a little bit more into it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
And uh, I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Down in Mexico for three months is not a bad Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You know right now, I didn't get to see you
this last time.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Just you know, just just come on down man, I'm
thinking about moving down to port of article time.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I mean, why not. What a difference to from like
our show to going on to a show where you
go three months in like to Mexico and then you're
home for the rest of the year. It must be
so nice.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, But I do love I do love having like
twenty two. I mean you get a lot more like
you can put a lot more of like action in
ten episode seasons. But I do like the twenty two,
in the twenty two episode format.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Because it's that job security, that check exactly.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah, you know, it's like you know, you're if it
like when you're signing onto your show, you're kind of
you can't really do other shows where you know, as
as a as a as a regular, So when you're
signing on to a show having a lot of downtime,
like it's it's it's definitely different versus you know, when
we were working it was like, you know, ten months
(29:38):
out of the year at least, so you know, you
felt like your time was, you know, very useful versus
like when you have a lot of downtime, you've got
to get really creative of like stuff you're working, stuff
you're working on and so what you can't do. Also,
there's like there's so many scheduling things you don't know
because a lot of it's always up in the air.
(29:59):
But I mean that shows so fun. It's like thirty
minutes and ten episodes.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
It's want to dream.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Yeah, And like the people I get to work with
are really really cool and easy going and so great.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You did perform at els Fast this past year with
Darren you appeared. We talked to Darren about it. He
said it was a blast. Was it fun? I mean
I did it one year and it was like the
fans are just the same, and they're all Glee crossover
fans obviously because of Darren, and it's just like felt
(30:31):
like a rock concert all over again.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah. It was, uh, I mean I hadn't really ever been.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
It was a lot bigger than I expected to be,
Like to turn out the people, for sure, I mean
the talented people they had come up on stage and
performance for performances was incredible.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
But it was so fun. I just came in for
we were trying to.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Me learning lyrics is like if I haven't done it
in a while, it was like it takes like I
have to listen to the song a million times, and
so before that weekend before I was just like listening
to the Billy Joel moving out over and over because
I was like, I don't know what my parts were.
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
It was.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
It was so fun though, just literally no no rehearsal,
just kind of like popped in and just.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, we pitched this to Darren. We're kind of we're
half kidding, half not, but we pitched to Darren doing
Loser Like Me. That the second version that we aught
you and Kevin and me and Darren did.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Together, one hundred episode version.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, and then Breakaway and what was the other one,
Kevin that we had pitched, But we'd love it if
you would do it with us, half kidding, half not.
What's the do you remember doing that one?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
It seems like the version of Loser Like Me. No,
go listen to it, remember your part, and then we'll
see you at Elson.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I mean you may think that I'm a break.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Showing I Did we actually do that on the show.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, it was the four of us.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I I man, gosh, I really need to go back
and watch this.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It's just like riding a bike. You'll know it's fine.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah, there is stuff that I see from that, like
that show that's like that you know, I'll get tagged
on on just like little video clips. I'm like, oh man,
somebody's like performances like hold up.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Like and they're they're a lot better than I remember
them being.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I mean obviously just like we're filming everything on film
and working with a you know, an infinite list of
talented people. But I forget like how like how how
like the quality was like on a lot of those things,
like the performers, like getting to watch up close, like
(33:06):
even that that number that Matt and Harry did where
they're I think it was like a.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Were they doing on the auditorium stage like where they have.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
A like like wallet walking up walls?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, m h yeah, it's insane wild. Yeah, especially like
when we got to season five and we're about to
go to season six, where we remember absolutely nothing but
the numbers. I think we all became really critical of
the show, probably because we were, you know, unhappy for
other reasons of like you know, Corey and things. But
(33:42):
going back and watching it now, it was like every
episode had a moment like that You're like, oh wow,
this number was really good.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, I think you can't help but get better when
you do something, so you know, so much like so
often like that. You know, I think everybody's bar starts
getting higher and higher and higher. So then you uh,
you know, it breeds a lot of really great work.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
But I mean there's some numbers that you know, some
of the dance numbers that you were just wheeling around
through and like, you know, I was like, man, this
this guy, this guy's forearms are probably exhausted. There was
like one scene I'm seeing you like get launched into
the pool. I'm like, oh man, this, I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
That was improved too, good old Eric.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
They are like so many things that would have gone
into doing that had they written that into the script.
But Steltz is like, just doing.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That was like cord gets a do fun things.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Let me do this. That was great. Though, It's like
I think the highlight.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I think there's probably several little gifts out there if
you just just launching yourself into the pool.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I felt like when that aired, nobody caught it, and
then it became like an internet thing a couple of
years ago. It's like, yeah, great, people are seeing it.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
But then there's like also like really cool stuff where
they use you to do like stuff like the fantasy
stuff like safety dance and all this other stuff that
you're like, oh man, that's ah, it's really cool to
see you actually be able to use those skills, because
probably one of the more qualified dancers that we had
on the show that was, uh.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, do you miss dancing? Do you miss dance class?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
And no, I don't, just because you know, it's like
it's like hearing your voice back on a recording. You know,
when you think you're doing something in time or or
you think you're aware of how your body moves, and then.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You're and you watch it back and you're like, that's
not what I sound like.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Yeah, it's like, but watching it back, it's like that's
how I'm moving, oh man. And you're like, our body
looks so weird, and you're like, thank god that the
editors we had were amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You could cut around.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yeah. It's it's one of those things to where I
I am like I'm coordinated in certain things, but like
like I got a lot better as time went on,
but oh yeah, my body fell so foreign too.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
How it moved or how I was supposed to make
it move.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You're like, can we learn? Yeah. You went from like
having like a baseball scholarship to do in Windy City.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
You know, Okay, okay, like I can figure out a
body role. It's just let's just throw that in.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
They're like, just do that, cord, you just do you
figure it out. Everybody just had to do free form
rock out and do their own things. At some point
they just learned that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I mean I would have I mean I would always
have like Harry trying to show me isolation tricks on
the side, and.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
It's like a little bit.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I mean, yeah, what season five have you? Guys just
finished the whole season? Yeah, it's what's the most ridiculous
thing you've seen?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Oh my god, there's a lot because just remember context,
you know, like we had just gone through all that stuff.
The show had to be.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Passed away, right, Yeah, And so we went on like
like a two episode break so the writers could figure
out what was happening. We did the Beatles episodes where
you were dating Penny. You guys did applause, we did
roar Like hours were great.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
The story was a little crazy some of the time,
but like the musical numbers were like the music was.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
A plus plus in this season, if you.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Ask me, that's all we had. Remember like Roor You're
swinging on the vines.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
And definitely I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Of Mary's Boy Child with Alex Nole the Christmas episode.
The Christmas episode was too much.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
And then with City of Angels with my one of
my favorites.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Obviously, there's when we did I Love l A, right, Yeah, yeah,
like Pink's hot Dogs and exactly you know what it was.
It was like I got to do all the tourists
tourist things and for the first.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
For years because he moved to l A and just
like got booked.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah. Well yeah, that like you know, like the tourists
side of things is like when you live in a
place is probably the most exhausting.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, you don't do that stuff I don't want to do.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
And also you're like on a hit TV show. You
don't want to be going to like the Grumman's like
Chinese theater at that.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Point, and then they put on us, They put us
on like the most of us.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I just remember I got so sun burned that day.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, everybody's the tourist hats, the props they gave us.
We did puppet Master where they had the the puppets
made after us, yep. And then and then we went
to Full New York, which was like when you and
Darren did all that stuff, And I loved watching that
because I wasn't in most of it.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
So yeah, I think I think part of part of
a lot of that stuff, like the all the crazy, wild,
different things we did and got to do, probably comes
from having twenty two episodes, because you know, it's you know,
it's very much like you have so much time to
fill bill. You know, like you see it a lot
in sitcoms, you know, like How I Met Your Mother.
It's like, Okay, now Barney has an episode where he's
(39:13):
in space, you know where he's you know, it's it's
it's it's like it's a fun side episode that doesn't necessarily.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Have it's entertainment.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah, which that's one of my favorite things about TV.
It's like, you know, it's just pure just entertainment and fun.
And now everything is so story packed where it's like
if you miss an episode, you're kind of screwed.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
True, it's like Game of Thrones, happened, and everyone's like,
we need to be this dense.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I didn't watch I didn't watch Game of Thrones until
it was like five seasons are out, so.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I I had so much great great like I watched.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
I kind of binge watching it when we were on
the road on tour because I was like, you have
you know, seven hours eight hours of driving time? Wow,
And I got an to it. I got into it that.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Way, but so jealous. I wish I could watch it
again for the first time.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
What a special show.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Rewatching it. Rewatching it's fun too. I mean you pick
up a lot of things you might you might have dropped.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I rewatched. I rewatched all.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
The Severns right before I started season two, just to
kind of and I'm never seen it.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Have you never seen No?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
No, I know I just started it recently and like
didn't get that far and was like, I need to
like go back and actually like watch us now, and.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I feel like you'll love it. Yeah, you got you
got it.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
You got a lot of you got a lot of
things taking up your time.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
John, I know, but I'm you know, I'm into it now.
I have a little bit more time, Like people are sleeping,
so like, I feel like I could get into it,
and everybody's talking about it. So it's just one of
those that I really want to see court.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Isn't it crazy? She has two kids?
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Know, I was just about to ask you to have
another kid, don't you?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I do?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I have a son now as it's just oh.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Yeah, because last time I saw you were closer.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That's right? Yeah, supports the baby and dog whisperer. So
I could hand off both of my children and my
late dog and they would just like fall into court time.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
I love I love kids and dogs. I had. I
have two little nephews.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
I have four nephews, but I have two little.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Ones that one's four and the other one is two.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
And I started taking the two year old to go golfing,
got him a little putter and then let him drive
the golf cart and he's like obsessed.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
So a lot of fun, like the best uncle lay dates.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah that's so cute. I bet your family loves having
you there, right, Yeah, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
It's great also because like you don't realize when you're
when you're living. I mean, I'm kind of split my
time back and forth from La to Nashville, but you
don't realize when you're like fully in La like those
those early years for the kids go by quick. Yeah,
so you miss a.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Lot of a little lot of that, but.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
You have a lot of there's a lot of kids. Brothers.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Talking to one of my friends about doing like a
time share adopted baby, you know, just like it's like
one of my really good buddies where it's like, you know,
just a just two dads just trying to have a kid.
But you know, both dads are just bros. You know
half the year, you know, you take the kid half
to your all take them.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Uh, that seems that seems that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Do you want a boyfriend?
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Are you just trying to say you want a husband?
Speaker 4 (42:22):
No, I was just I was just I just thought
it would be a funny, a funny bit to where
it's like, hey, you know, if if you haven't, if
you haven't figured out your life partner yet, you can
just go with somebody that you've been you know, friends
with forever and just yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
You know that's not going to go on.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
We can do whatever we want these days.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Yeah, I'm sure, baby, you know, I'm I'm I'm work
shopping it. You know, it might end up just being
like a wacky rom com idea, but.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Honestly not a bad idea either. Take either.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
What's that's how I prefer to have a baby? I
would do it in that case. Yeah, timeshare.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Well, that's why being like a uncle's so great because
you can kind of you know, you can kind of
come and go for the fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
And yeah, you're not so tired half the year, you know,
like you discipline them. Yeah right, there's the fun uncle
all the time.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Well there's also like my nieces and nephews always responded
to me disciplining much more than they would their own parents.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
But yeah, nobody expects their parents nowadays.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, that's right. Nowadays.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Nowadays, you know it's like because no parents are laying
down the law, you know, that's true. I'm like, man,
I would keep this kid in line like that.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
A lot of soft parenting, a lot of you.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Know, spoil the rod, does it? Spoiler rod? Spare the
child or spare the rod, spoil the child. That's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah, spare the rod, spoil the child.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
There was a it was a fifties phrase then they
used to like, you know, hit kids in public school,
like you know, the teachers would rulers, give the kids
as the rulers and stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
No, that doesn't that doesn't know, we don't need to
do that.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
But my grandma, I think my grandma was born in
like the twenties or thirties. Uh.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
When she was alive, she was telling me these stories.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
She's like, oh, yeah, we used to make your dad
and his brothers or whatever go out to the yard
and pick out a switch.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
I was like, what a psychological Oh my god. It's like,
you know, it's like that's this cycle.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I mean, gosh, talk about trauma, talk about trauma. I
mean I got I mean, I just got like a
yard work, right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
If I if I didn't, if I didn't like landscape,
the house perfectly, you know, that was another week yard work.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I meant to send you a video I was. I
was in Colorado and Keystone a couple months ago and
staying with some friends and they took us on this
like horse drawn sleigh ride to like a restaurant in
the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
It was amazing. And this little house like little restaurant,
there's a there who sings, who serenades you the entire time.
And he has this really extensive song list and there
was a Paul over Street original in that song list.
Oh I love that, And I was like, oh my god,
I got to get him to play.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Do you remember what song it was?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
It was you know what's like, it's super famous. Now
I'm blinking on it.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
She thinks my tracktre sexy.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Nope, slow song when you say nothing at all, Yes, yep,
it's the classic. I was like, I can't because you know,
he had like a hundred songs in there, and I
was and like one of the top ones was that,
and I was like, that's right, come on over Street.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
I went to a to a restaurant where there was
there was it was like a like a cello or
a cello and a guitar or something and they would
come over to everybody's table and they would like serenade them.
But there's it was like I felt like Larry David
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yes, Curby enthusiastic.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
There's like an episode where he's like kind of she's
the guy who's coming over, and it was like right
in the middle where in like this like like in
tit's conversation at this like this this this like Italian
like very operatic singer comes over and starts talking and
we all just kind of like kind of just like
(46:18):
had to stop. And like one of the guys who
was telling the story got.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
So frustrated when the tray pass comes back.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
But it happened like there wasn't a lot of people
at this restaurant, and so it happened like he came
over to our table like three or four times.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Okay, Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Okay, okay, you're great, you're talpted.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
But like leave us alone.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Oh my god, lord, we all felt like such keep it.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Put that in the Timeshare baby script. It's a good moment.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Oh yeah, the Timescare baby script is. I think it's
it's getting green let for sure. Yeah, I'm green lighting it.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, somewhere somewhere.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
I'm going to finance that. We're gonna shoot it on
an iPhone.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Great, that's it.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
I'll play the baby, Kevin, you can play the baby.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I'll play the time Share Kevin.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
You know what, Kevin, Kevin has a knack for just
finding roles where he's on wheels and you just stroll
him around and like you know, you know, it's a
lot of like credit to a lot of credit credit
to you, Kevin, because uh, there's so much energy in
(47:38):
acting that comes from movement and uh like performance wise,
to be able to do that while sitting down for
one percent of the time, that's it's a lot harder.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Than it you would think.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yes, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
Unless you're sitting down playing video games with me.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
That was honestly, I Jenna, it was so great you
guys got just because we also like, oh, so for
this your motivation is zone out and play video games.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Just don't forget your line.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah, which is like fine, Like it was, Yeah, it
was great.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
I love those. But like the man scenes that you
guys did, especially in the STV one, it's just like
very male heavy storylines.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
And like.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
And then the scene where I love the scene with
you and Mercedes where which episode was it was it
Old Dog New Tricks when you oh you get the
dog McConaughey, Yeah, and he's eating like all of her stuff.
Is that's the scene right when you're playing videos show.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
It's so good and it's torn up and she comes
in the house and then the dog comes down the
stairs with the hair.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
By the way that season. They put me in like
a model house thing for like right episode and by
the end of the episode, I was out. But like
one of the guys that we worked there, who you know,
remain friends with, and he like super sweet guy.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
It was like Charles Melton.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yeah, I forgot he was on it. And then irror
stories with him and I was like, wait, why did
he never bring this up to me?
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yeah? I ran into him.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
I ran into him something and I was like, hey, man,
how's it going, Like uh, and like it all came back.
I forgot that you came on for that episode. He's
the sweetest, He's such a nice guy.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, there's I gotta I gotta re rewatch some of
that stuff. It is.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
It is a fun one actually, when you know what
you're getting into and your expectations are like low, and
like the music's really good and the performances are really good,
and like you just we were giving everybody just like
a little bit of grace the season, the writers, the creators,
the actors, like everybody just gets a little bit of
grace this season because we've been through so much. And
(49:52):
then to watch it back, you're like, wow, we did that.
You know we got through it.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
I mean, it's definitely a different it's a different thing
that I you know, it's a different experience when you're
dealing with all that stuff on.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Top of like the yeah, everything emotional stuff that we
were going through. Yeah, personal, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
I feel like for some reason I thought that that
was around season four, but I guess.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
It was end before, at the beginning of five or
between the two. Yeah, essentially a crazy time.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
What happened in six you you guys got on the way.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
We haven't done it.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
We have zero I didn't tell you.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
The only thing I remember the finale episodes. That's the
only thing I really remember. I think the last two
that's it.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, we're gonna have.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Some of the newbies on and there is I think
we did over seven hundred musical numbers.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Thinking about that now, is like that.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
It would I think that would be so intimidating or
daunting for any production to do that many.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah. Yeah, we also had such a good like pipeline,
like we had that down.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
It was kind of plug in and play.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
After a while, nobody's been able to replicate that, I think,
because like we just happened to have all the right
people making those decisions.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
And yeah, from like the people that were doing the music,
like they would have a song turned around in a night,
and then you have like Andrew Mitchell running around up
and down platforms back.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
I mean we would do like sometimes three three songs
a day.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, like we had like the best people in those
positions possible, like make all that happen like it was
a happy accident.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
I don't know if you guys are seeing this.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
There's like a whole new wave of kids discovering the
show now because I mean it's streaming.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
It's kind of stuff lives forever.
Speaker 4 (51:38):
So it's like, yeah, it's like a big second wave
when stuff is kind of living on those platforms.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
I feel like now it's like a third wave.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
Yeah, very because there was like a while it was
on Netflix for a while, and then it went to
Hulu and Disney Now and Fox.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Disney brought Fox and all that stuff, so and everybody's
just all over those platforms.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, everybody buy and everybody. Well, Cord, thanks so much
for hanging out with us again coming back on and congrats,
like you're just you're still killing it the music.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Everyone.
Speaker 4 (52:18):
Yeah, thanks for the thanks for the plug on this
on the music. I'll send you some stuff, some sneak
peeks of some of the new stuff, but it's please do.
I'm super I'm super stoked on it. And there's uh,
you know, I'm still kind of ironing out the track
list order and stuff like that, but I've I'm pretty
stoked on the stuff that I've got.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
So you're great.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
You're great.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah, thank you guys for having me on here. I
love you guys.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Thanks for taking so much time. I would love to
see you all.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
Right, Love you guys, Love you, Cord.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
Thanks Cord, Love you sweet man.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
That was so nice to catch up with with one
of the course, that was just like a FaceTime that no, literally,
you guys like we were just like chilling on a
phone call. Well that's Chord, Chord, thanks for your time.
He's he's writing. He's literally one of the best songwriters
we know.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Honestly, I can't go listen to the song and it's
so good. And if you haven't watched Acapoco, go watch it.
There's a new season coming and it's.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
A relief that he doesn't remember anything either, you know.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yeah, See, it's not just us everyone, and that's what
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