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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's epics way up at Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee.
And of course it is a Wealth Wednesday. So my
partner Stacy Tisday is here.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Happy Wealth Wednesdays.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Everybody. I feel like we're the same here do almost No,
it's never straight.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Sisters from another mystic, and we are really excited to
have another sister from another mister Michelle Anthony, who has
been joining us as our guest co host this month
as we celebrate black businesses this month and most important,
celebrating how black businesses can scale. And you have done that.
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Our audience knows you, they know what you've created with
Anthony and associates, but you have a eye on a
bigger prize. And I know for you this is about
generational wealth and you're actually creating an energy company.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
So tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yes, this is you know I've done. I've done well
with government contracting, but the legacy is going to be
this energy company. And I'm very honored that I was
able to get into energy because, as you know, there
are not many people that look like us that are
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going to be able to do anything from a global
scale with energy. And because of my government contracting. I've
been able to leverage that in order to prepare myself
and my four children.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Say that again because of your government contact.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yes, because of the government contracting, knowledge, experience, relationships and
just building that performance, being able to perform, and people
being able to rely upon me.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Opportunities have come my way.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And there's an opportunity that came my way about three
four years ago, and I was very intrigued regarding a
graphene energy solution for a graphine smart battery. And you know,
to try and explain graphic a little bit, I try
to make it, you know, for our people. When we
saw black panther, it was vibranium, and so graphene is
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like vibranium.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Can remember how strong it.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Could take the bullets and you know every time, you know,
it would just absorb the energy and all of that.
So graphene is the strongest substance right now known to man,
and it is the thinnest and it's the lightest. But
if you add graphene to anything, the difference will be
at least thirty percent different than what it was prior
to you adding it. And so when we found out
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about the smart battery, and I started talking with my
children because I wanted them to understand. You know, I've
always been trying to groom them the whole way about
business well and duel a my son sitting here.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
He would always say, Mom, government contractor is boring.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
You know. He never wanted to do that, he never
had an interest in it. But I found an investment
with a hydrogen company many years a few years back,
and I introduced him to it. And from that point forward,
between investing and between learning about clean fuels and clean energy.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
He grasped that right. And so that's why we.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
And that's important for his generation and the generation after us.
You know, a lot of times when we think about
climate change and the things that are important now, some
people don't care because they're like, oh, I'm not going
to be alive for that anyway. But when you think
about the next generation and the generation after that, it
matters so much.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
It does.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And well like your generation is actually the first in
history that the majority don't want to have children. And
if you dig into the research and the data on that,
one of the top things, the top reasons they say
is the climate.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Whereas for us we kind of think of.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It it's a problem and it's out there, but you
guys are really into it. Talk to us about how
important that climate change aspect it was for you to
work with your mother.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
To speak on that. You know, I really do want
to have children. I really want to you know, be
married one day and have a family. So the climate
change was definitely something important for me and my mom
to to tackle together and be partners and everything. So
because you know, all the dangers and everything like that
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with climate change and the weather and the heat and
just everything and the illnesses and everything like that can
really affect my children and their kids and their kids.
And even though I may not be there, they're still
my family and they're still you know, who I care about.
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So you know, I definitely want to be to make
a positive impact in the climate change for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Even remember we had Darryl Fairwether up here from Redfence.
She be kind of missing redfin and she was talking
about how they added that on to redfind as one
of the considerations, like the climate, you know, in different places,
because even when it comes to real estate and where
you're planning to live, yes, there's places that will be
affected so much by climate change. When you think about
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you know, all of the mudslides, when you think about
being underwater, when you think of fire, the wildfires, all
of those things. That's all because of climate teams.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And it disproportionately affects communities of color.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It does.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
We were talking about that.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And what's so sad about that is when you look
at the statistics, it actually shows that we cause the
least amount of damage, but we've paid the highest price.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You always talk about the example of the inhaling bad
things at the bus stop.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Oh yeah, you know, just again, that's just yeah, that's
one example. You know, we're watching our little kids go
to school and in outside and you have that big
area where all the buses are, and they're just emitting
all of this black smoke from diesel, and no one
is paying attention that our children are breathing that, you know,
and then all of a sudden, you have more asthma cases,
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you have more issues, you know, respiratory issues because of
what's in the air and the types of air that
you breathe.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I think, ANDWELLI and I were.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Talking about you know, you know where the nuclear reactor
plants where everything that can be harmful, those things are
strategically placed near communities of color, you know, and that
is a problem because at first I didn't look at
it that way. You know. I grew up in the hood,
so you know, just seeing things being broken, torn up, whatever,
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that was just the norm, right, And I didn't understand
that that was systemic, that was being done on purpose,
you know, so that you know, because we didn't matter,
you know, and we were talking about just like the
little children in Flint when the Flint situation happened. You know,
where I live and where we live and where they've
been raised, we would never encounter any of these issues.
And when you sit back and you peel the layers
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of the onion back, there is a distinct difference of
the air that I breathe versus what other children and
other people that look like me are breathing. And that's
on purpose. It's another way that people of color have
been discriminated against, and we don't look at it that way.
I never saw it that way. But there is environmental injustice.
After me, we're at the top of that.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
N Jola.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I wanted to talk to you more about maintaining your
feelings about in just a moment, Michelle tell us exactly
what this energy company does.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Our energy company what it does is with this smart battery. Okay,
the battery is like plug and play, so when you
when you get the battery is plug and play. Most
people are familiar with the batteries that Tesla has and
they use lithium, and lithium is very harmful to our
to our environment. Lithium has to be mined and and
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a lot of the issues that that this battery will
correct is because of all of the heat that the
fossil fuels and all of these other agents that are
being used, they create and they hold so much heat.
And so one of the things that the company is
doing is making sure we produce a product that is
environmentally friendly, is biodegradable, but not only that, it can
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charge three to four times faster than a lithium battery,
is none explosive, Like we have a remote battery system
that can diagnose any issues with the battery, so we
can take the battery offline. If the battery sustains an injury,
we can close off that layer of the battery and
let the remaining portion of the continue to function. So
it's highly highly functioned functioning and so we're able to
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take this battery and we can create we can combine
the graphene technology in the battery with solar panels. So
we've also gotten now graphine solar panels. So grafphene can
absorb up to ninety five percent of the Sun's energy.
No regular solar panel can can absorb that.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Let me tell you something about these solar panels, because
I have solar panels on my house now and I've.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Never had that on your Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Wow, and it's amazing just even for.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
The environment, but also for your pocket.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Oh yes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
So if we put the graphene battery and we pair
that with your the graphene solar panels, we're able to
take you off the grid. So now we're reducing the
heavy weight that's on the grid that we we all
know that the greed can't even sustain all of the
usage because we have to plug up everything. We have
to use so much energy.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And with climate change that heat has been on the
We had like heat waves non stop, and then that
causes you to use even more.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yes, because I was talking to someone in Denver and
he was like, oh, it's one hundred and something.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Us in Denver, It's only eighty in Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
So you know, when you're just looking at these things
and these phenomenons where you can hardly tell the difference
in the season, I'm still trying to figure out why
is it still daylight at nine o'clock?
Speaker 5 (09:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
It's getting you know, So all of these things, you know,
we've seen them. So we wanted to do a company
that not only could we reduce the carbon footprint, but
also we want to.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Be able to give back.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
That's very important because we've been fortunate and blessed to
get into a sector or a space an industry that
we just are not in.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
We're just not in that space like we should be.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
This is a big I mean, you're already a global company.
Talk about I know what you're doing something really special
in Hawaii.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, So before I could even finish getting the company
set up, I'm not kidding you, we have more opportunities
and more contracts that we're working on right now, letters
of intent, and we haven't even fully been able to
totally finalize the whole launch. So in Rustenburg, South Africa,
we're working with them on a wasted energy conversion opportunity
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where we're going to convert We're going to convert their
waste to graphene energy. And when we convert it to
graphene energy, we're able to sell energy back to the
community that's going to be clean energy. Not only can
we do the clean energy from it, we also are
able to take that graphene and infuse it with fuels
and we can create clean fuels, biofuels, so we can
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create clean diesel fuel, jet fuel, all of those fuels
we can create those from graphene now. And so that's
in Rustenburg, South Africa. So we're getting ready to kick
off and maybe about a month or two. So that
project's been working with our partner. Then we have a
project in Hawaii. We're waiting on the letter up intent
from the State of Hawaii to attack the Great Garbage
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Patch and the Great Pacific Garbage Patch and Angeela. We
were talking about it because I always forget the size
of this thing because it's so massive that there's that
much garbage that is collected in the Pacific Ocean and
it's all come together and the UH and it's between
off the California coast and Hawaii, and so if they
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don't get this under control, this will end up growing
to the point where you know, the trash will you
can't do anything with it. It's all the plastics and
things that people throw in on the beach and they
leave and then it gets washed out the shore.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
So how big is that?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I can't even I can always forget how how large
that patch is.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
It's supposed to be like two times the size of
the state of Texas, So it's huge.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
That much trust in the Pacific Ocean and so we're
working with them now to be able to convert all
of that trash to energy.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
That would be phenomenal. Andwellie, why is this something that
you're passionate about? I know you said government contracting was boring,
but now you found something that you care about.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Yeah. Again, like it goes to like, you know, my
kids and everything, so you know, like the wildfires and
and how you know, even hurricanes will get even more violent.
The sea levels will rise, which is going to eat
up shores and beaches and and take away jobs and
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and and not even just my kids, even just other
people's kids too.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
How did you when you first started saying, Okay, I
want to be a part of this business. What are
some things that you've learned already from watching your mom
work but then also venturing off on your own to
to be able to be a part of this is your.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Company room, to run this business? What does that feel like?
Speaker 6 (13:03):
It's real cool, you know, a big responsibility of course.
But you know, I'm a pretty you know, even though
I'm young, I'm pretty mature for my age. But you know,
I have an amazing business mentor slash mom of course
beside me to you know, help me and guide me
through everything. So I think that I'm going to be
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to do you know, very well with this and everything,
because you know, she has all the wisdom and everything
for me to you know, you know, pick her brain
and everything.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
So so yeah, have you applied for any government contracts yet? No,
I'm just saying I don't know how you couldn't. You
got the resource right here.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
I mean if I if I ever wanted to, I
could for sure most definitely do that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
You got to go through all the proper channels though.
No shortcuts here.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, and this company is called Endwell Energy. I mean,
this is really something that you're gonna take the helm of.
How was that all birthed?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Actually it was birth. So me and my mom we
had a conversation three months ago. And when we had
that conversation, you know, I'm kind of a person who
stays to myself. I don't really go out and you know,
say how I feel or you know, I kind of
deal with things on my own. So we had a
you know, uh deep, you know, your heart to heart conversation,
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and you know, I didn't get to tell everything but
just h but one of the things that I told
her that stuck out to her was how growing up
my whole life since a little little little boy, everybody said,
you know, oh you know, you would never be anything,
or or you would never make it, or you know,
or they thought it was better than me for whatever reasons.
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And I was from a little little boy. And my
name for people who don't know, you know, my name
is in but my name means that God has sent me,
so that my name meaning and then them saying that
don't don't go together. So I knew that I had,
you know, some some big things to do. I didn't
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know what or what was going to be or what
I was going to be doing, but I just knew.
I just knew. One day I was going to do
something and it was gonna make an impact. And I
was going to be the you know, be successful and
be the you know, take care of me and my family,
and also be to help other people as well, you know,
and and spread the spread the you know, love and the.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Wealth to other people.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
So after we had that conversation, you know, we said,
let's change that and and and let's make you. Let's
make you into something.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And and you were already something. You were already something.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
And every and every in the day right after that
the very next day and energy was born that way.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Michelle, You this is a very expands a definition of
generational wealth beyond just leaving. I mean, you could just
leave your kids money and they'd never have to think
about or work again for the rest of their lives.
But you have a different generation, different definition of generational wealth.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I do.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I do, And and I just want to piggyback a
little bit off of what he said, because you know,
as a mother, you know when you're when you're when
your child shares their heart with you, it moves you.
And it moved me, and and you know the fact
that he was a miracle.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
I had had what was it.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I think about three or four at that time. No,
it was a totally By the time it was all over,
I had had five mischaracters and and but I had
heard a promise from God to me and that he
was going to give me a some and but I
kept losing the babies. And but so when he came,
I knew when that baby was in the uterus, and
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it made it.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I knew at the.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Ultrasound what they were going to tell me. It was
because I had already been told. And there came this
boy a gift, yeah and so and so for him
to tell me how his name and all of those
things had been so twisted, you know, something inside of
me rose up and said, you know what, we got
to go back to what God said about you. And
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so you know, and he's a great young man. He
doesn't give me any trouble, any problems. And so I
saw this as an opportunity for us to collaborate. But
it was something that he had interested in. No matter
what I tried to get him to do, this government contractor,
I just couldn't couldn't listen.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
That's fair enough, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I think when you're passionate about something, some people are
very focused just on making money, and that's fine, but
some people are like, I have to really care and be.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
And just what I like, you make it, you do it.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
But that's just boring.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Mom.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
He kept calling it boring and it would hurt my feelings.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
So yeah, but at the end of the day, But
so what he's what I love about what we're doing
is he gets to sit into meetings. I remember about
two months ago we were up in DC and I
had him sitting right at the table with Senator Warnock.
I mean, no matter what if it's a billion dollar deal,
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we're talking about whatever, He's included in all these conversations
and he's getting to learn people, their personalities, how they move,
all of those things. And it's so wonderful because they're
not and I just have to go ahead and say it.
People aren't making opportunities for black males in a corporate
or professional setting for them to be who they really
can be.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
There are other things, There are more things that are
against him that are for him. So to see him
get in this space and thrive and want to learn
and be passionate about, you know, making sure we help others,
you know, because it's not him. Now, I have my
three daughters as well, so all of us came together
and they agreed, the girls agreed that he.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Would be the namesake.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
And so all of us are supporters and they're all
we're all co founders together. But he's the name, he's
the face, and he's going to run that leg of
the business. And then my daughter Kiera, she is right
now the VP of Business Operations at Anthony and Associates,
but she's being groomed to be my to be the
president because when I step to the side, I'll be
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the CEO, but she's going to be the president.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Then my youngest.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Daughter, she loves creative writing, screenwriting and media, so I'm
looking for her. I will be able to push her
to lead the media company. And then my other daughter
that's the r N because I have twins, she's an
r N and she loves real estate. So I also
do real estate and the government does do real estate transactions.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Okay, I have my real estate licensus, and so also
all four of them are able.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I'm positioning all four of them to have the knowledge
for one and then have the ability to manage and
transact money as a tool, not something that they're not
accustomed to or that it just blows their mind when
you get it, because you got to stay focused.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Certain things are a tool.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
But you can open doors for somebody with all the
connections and contacts and you know, opportunities in the world,
but they still have to walk through it. What are
the important lessons you're teaching them that will allow them
to thrive in these corporate cultures.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
One of them is this, in order to get respect,
you got to give respect and you need to be respectable.
So the way you treat people, the way you you
know you want to be treated, all of those things matter.
So just because you've you have an opportunity that others
didn't have, that's just by the grace of God, you
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know what I'm saying. So we must care about how
we interact and we treat people. And when you do,
you'll be amazed at how they'll treat you, how they'll
respond to you, how they'll be loyal to you, how
they'll be faithful to you, how they'll be willing to
do whatever they need to do because you care about them,
not just them, but care about their children, care about
what's important to them. And those are the things that
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I let them watch me do every day, and I
pour that into them because the most important element in
our lives and what we do in business is the
people that are around us. If you mistreat those people,
you will not last long. But if you treat those
people right, you will last until you're tired.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So now to people who you feel I can do
something for you, oh no, oh no, right, not just
treat people well.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yeah, and you got to you have to be a giver,
and you have to be sacrificial. You have to understand
if if you and I work together and all it
is is about me and I don't care about you,
you won't be with me long, right, absolutely, And so
I teach them those things because what's going to be
most important is the people that are around you.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Either they're for you or they're against you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
And if they're against you, I gotta cut.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Them mond, yep.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
And if they're for you, though, they'll push you to
the moon and ba yeah, they'll they'll follow you to
the moon and back. And so that's the most important
thing I can tell them is treat people the way
they want to be treated, and also how you want
to be treated.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
And I love about this conversation. A lot of us
feel like we don't have the money to create the
general generational wealth we want to. But it's not all
generational wealth. It's not just about money.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
It's not, it's not.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
It's actually it's about transferring knowledge, because that's knowledge and money.
And the other component I'll say is ability, because you
can have knowledge and you can have money, but if
you don't have the ability to make it grow and
do what it needs to do, you're still.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Did in the water.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
You gotta have the ability to make it work, make
it produce, you know what I'm saying. And so I
am just grateful that that gift is in our family.
And my son is carrying this torch. You know, he's
gonna carry this and he's gonna represent myself and his sisters,
you know, and it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It is really wonderful, and a world class boxer at the.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Same he's on that his shelf and his business and
all of that. He's on it with all of us.
I heard him, was it last night? You said, okay,
when you're gonna go back to the gym when training
his sisters, you know, So he's you know. I love that.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I already have your nickname, your box nickname and dwelling
the graphene dream.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Okay, well, okay, well we'll work out. We'll work on that.
We'll work on that.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
And how can people he already has his name.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
What you want? What's your name? Work?
Speaker 6 (23:49):
His name is the dream?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
How can people follow you on this journey? You're going, wait,
it's talking about.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
My middle name is Michael.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
So they called me, you know, because I got pretty
good defense and it's kind of hard to hit me.
So they called me pretty well Mike.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
That's like pretty boy Floyd.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
But fluid.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Energy.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, we'll think about it. Okay, let's put energy, you know,
but you never.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Know in the fight that the fight might be sponsored
by energy. The light the lights may be from from us.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I don't know the energy the energy.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
How can people follow you?
Speaker 6 (24:38):
You can follow me on Instagram at underscore Anthony uh
and TikTok is the same, the same as Underscore Anthony
s A N D W E L E.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Okay, And I want to just add one last thing
that I think is the most special thing too. It's
with the battery and with this energy company. We're going
to be creating battery manufacturing plants all around the country
and around the world, and so he'll be able to
also give people jobs, meaningful employment and you know, stimulate economies.
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And then we're going to be doing some other humanitarian things.
So just to make sure that he's a part of
that and seeing his ability to affect lives will forever
change his life, you know, because once you're once your
hands are in there, you see the benefit.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
It's sort of like addictive.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
This is a honestly seeing her talk about this aspect
of her business and pat and this company that you're
gonna be in charge of and your daughter is going
to run your company. This is like the smiles are NonStop.
But this is what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Thank you, Thank you both for joining us.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Happy Wealth Wednesdays everybody and Black business man too.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
What a great way to celebrate well