LS Episode 509: Tequila Empire & Dating Scandals You Didn’t See Coming (feat. Larsa Pippen)

Larsa Pippen joins Lip Service to spill everything — from building her ultra-premium tequila brand to navigating messy breakups, friendship betrayals, and finding love again. She opens up about dating younger men, loyalty drama, parenting in the spotlight, and what really went down with her exes. Get ready for unfiltered talk, surprising confessions, and the real story behind her luxury lifestyle!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, it's lip service. I'm Angela Yee, I'm Gg Maguire.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Jeordie, or I'm Larca Pippen.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
You know what it is, Larca Pippen.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I definitely know what time it is.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
First of all, thank you for coming in here and
admiring these Chanel couches.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I mean they look so vintage and one of the kind.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
And you know what it is now with the tariffs,
you can't get stuff like this, so if you want to,
it has to be secondhand. We may sell them, so
you guys look out for that vintage, a vintage Chanel.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
And it's super comfortable, authentic.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Sup. Well, welcome to the show, and of course congratulations.
We were talking about your tequila that just launched recently.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, I'm super excited.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
How do you say?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Alohu a luho aluho alo luho alujo okay aluho.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
And so talk to me about this venture because we're
tequila drinkers in here, I'll send you some. Is it
only an yeho? Yes? Okay?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
So our first, our first bottle, So yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
You start at the top. I mean, I like, I.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Like premium things.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, and the bottle is amazing. Y'all gotta look this up.
So even you were just getting into this space because
I know it's not an easy space to get into.
Tell me how that happened.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
So ten years ago, my dad's an entrepreneur. My dad
has different businesses. He called me ten years ago and
he was like, let's do a tequila. One of my
business partners has the distillery he owns in Mexico. And
ten years ago, I really wasn't ready for it.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Like I have young kids.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I didn't have time. And my dad was like, we
can go to Mexico on Thursday. I'm like, it's time.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, I don't have time.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
And so fast forward years later. Three years ago, I
decided I wanted to do a tequila and so I
got together with a couple of my friends, Adam Whitesman,
one of them who is a New Yorker.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Do you know Adam Whitesman, Yeah, I know who that is.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
And so we decided to do a tequila.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
We got to see couches. He didn't kid it.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So we talked about doing a tequila and we wanted
to do something that was different. There was ultra premium,
you know, just unique in every way. We hired like
the biggest designers to do the bottle.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
It's artwork.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, it's really pretty, it's really special.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's like something you give as a gift and you
can't throw the bottle of the way it feels No,
it's beautiful. But speaking of gifts, Joordie, I know you
have a gift that we're giving away. Yes, we're finally
giving our way our trip, y'all. We have a winner.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
And basically what we were doing was we had a sponsor.
Her name's chlobe Love. She's one of my best friends,
and she is giving.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Away a vacation.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yes, there's a list of really fun places that our
winner can go.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's up to her.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
And she's been tagging us every day for the last
couple minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
She's committed that though every single day I was like,
I thought it was somebody who worked here she was tagging.
She clocked in. She was clocked in.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
And her name is Renee Ken. Yes, her instagram is
m Z Underscore cloud nine. So Miss cloud nine is
about to be flying in the clouds to her new vacation.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
I wonder who she's gonna I wonder where she's going
to go. Me too, It better be somewhere.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
But anyway, she's finding out now as where this episode
comes out, so she doesn't even know yet. So now, congratulations.
It's nice to be able to do nice things for people.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's so nice.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
If you had to pick a place to go on vacation,
what would be your first pick right now?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Like July, like June July? Yeah, probably south of France.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Okay, periods and of course we would be remiss not
to say we saw you recently on Watch What Happens
Live new Man and the audience and in front. Well
seven months right, yeah, so it's seven months still considered
new No, it depends.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, I think it depends if the person stays with
you every day and you kind of like spend a
lot of time together, then no. But if they live
in a different state, then I agree.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
It depends how much time you spend with them.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Right, Okay, so you guys are together every day though,
so it's a consistent seven months, so doesn't.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm not used to having relationships where they're like a
little bit in a little like I'm not good like that.
I meanither like we're together, We're just not.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
You are definitely like the I'm not just like casually dating.
It feels like you're like, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, but I like to know that beforehand, Like I'm
not just trying to date you to like just.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Because so you don't have like a talking phase.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, I definitely have a talking phase, but I'm saying
I need to know like where your mind is that, Like,
are you the kind that wants to get serious? Are
you not? Because I feel like when I was, like
I was divorced for like six years and I dated
different guys, and I feel like I would talk to
guys just as friends and they'd be like, I never
want to commit to being married. I never want to commit.
I'm like, well, you're talking to the wrong one right,

(04:36):
Like it's not for me. I'm not just going to
sit here and play house with you and like have
you come over like for what.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I always think it's weird when guys say that because
they also don't know. I remember I dated a guy
and in the beginning he told me like, I don't
want to be in a serious relationship, but you don't
really know that because then you can start dating somebody.
And then he tried to like lock it down and
I was like, no, you didn't want to be in
a saving sight. Yeah, and I wasn't taking you that seriously.
So I also feel like you probably said that because

(05:02):
he was confused. He sounds confused from day Well.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
He probably said that because he didn't want to stop
sucking his baby mama or whoever else he was already.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Having sex with.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Well, he didn't have any kids or anything, whoever else
he was doing it. But I'm also okay, but you
didn't want to stop doing it to her to commit you.
That's why they say I don't want.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
To use accountability.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, you know, it's like a safety net of saying like,
if something goes left, they don't have to be responsible
for it, right.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
But also, Larsa, it feels like you managed to get
guys that want to be like all the way in.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I'm my girl.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm just kidding. I'm listen. I mean, I'm just kidding,
because you know how hard it is to get a
guy to do the things that Larsa will get a
man to just be like, I don't know, it's because
sometimes guys feel like I'm not going to get like
your man. Jeff Kobe, right sitting in the front of
watch what Happens Live, like like very involved in what
you have going on. Yeah, you know, and I know

(05:53):
previously dated Marcus, he was there like involved. I remember
Mana was like he's holding the purse like he's doing
And some guys won't do all that. No, but seriously,
like they're not. They're like call me when you're done, right.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
But I feel like you have to also know your worth,
you know what I'm saying. I feel like women need
to like have standards for themselves and then guys have
standards for you. But if you don't, then guys are
just you know, it's just to happen and they're just
creatures of nature. If you don't show them how to
act towards you, they're not going to treat you like that.
They're just going to think you're one of many.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
How do you like give us a scenario because we're
struggling out here. Date dot com Okay, first of all,
the fact that you've got date dot com is crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's crazy to get that, to get that website, Like,
do you have webinars on there? Because that's what we need.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, we got it all.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know what else is really cool? About date dot
Com because when I was single, my girlfriends and I
were trying to go on dating sites. We're like, which
one should we go on? And I was like, if
I meet a guy, I can't give them my number,
Like I don't want to talk to a guy like
when you're first getting to know them. So everything that
I found that was wrong in other dating apps. I
like perfected, so you can they FaceTime video call from
date dot com. You can mass text. If you're like

(07:04):
five guys, you can text them all and be like, hey,
what are you doing this weekend?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
That's hilarious. You could know.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
And then there's no catfishing. So instead of guys being
able to upload a photo that looks nothing like them,
you have to take it from the actual app.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh you got to take the photo from all okay,
so you have to take the picture so you can't catfish.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
We don't have your personal information, we don't have your
credit card. Everything goes through the app store. It's like
very safe, secure, and you know what's hard dating. I
feel like when you meet someone, I want to talk
to you on the phone. I want to see your face,
but I don't necessarily want to give you all my information.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Right, So yeah, I mean it's also a struggle to
figure out how much information do you give in the beginning? Yeah,
because some people are like, well, what do they need
to know? Like do they need to know your history?
Where you ever married? Do you even reveal? Like do
you ask somebody like do you have kids? Right away?
Like what are the things that you think you need
to know? When you initially, like say the first time

(07:57):
you're talking to somebody, I feel like you just.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Know from their vibe, just kind of go by the conversation,
like where did you go to school?

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Where do you live?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Where does your family live? Like I feel like for me,
I think what I mostly gravitate towards people that come
from like a close knit family like that to me
is very important, you know what I mean. I don't
care like what circumstances you have. I don't like I
always feel like if you're close to your family, then
it's like a good thing.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know what if they have a record, like they've
been in jail.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Let people make bad decisions, Okay, good, see I love that,
so good people make bad decisions. But I just feel
like sometimes you're like, you know, your problems are like
your surroundings, and if you hang out with people that
are troublesome, you're going to if someone's like, hey, let's
go do this, and you're just trying to be friends
with your friends and getting yourself in trouble, then that
doesn't really mean you're a bad person.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
You just made a bad decision. And we've all made
bad decisions. Some of us just ain't got caught right
right right. I was thinking about that too, because it's
definitely things when I was younger I could have went
to jail for. And trust me, I think we didn't
have in the nineties. Ce She's like, I actually did
go to jail. I did, right, That's what I'm saying.
You could be a party, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Sometimes good people make bad decisions, and that's not you know, Okay,
I don't feel like that's a that's a deal breaker
for me, you know, and you know what, you know what,
it's a deal breaker for me.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I feel like I could never.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
And I don't know, you tell me if this is
right or wrong, but I could never if I start
talking to a guy and he's bashing his baby mom
or his ex wife first girl, I could never be
with a guy like that, I instantly get turned off.
I'm like, oh, heck, no, no, thank you.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Nothing's his fault for me. As fathers who aren't present
in their kids' lives. Yeah, like you spend way more
time with me or trying to be with me. Then
I see you trying to be with your children. That's
a huge reflact for me.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
You know what's interesting, I dated a guy that had
a couple of kids, and it's weird because I have kids,
but I feel like I'm not one to date guys
with kids because I feel like women know how to
navigate when we have kids and men just don't. That's interesting,
I promise you, Like I can like do it all.
I can handle work, kids, everything, But I feel like
when I dated this one guy that had kids, it

(09:57):
just was like he just didn't know how to know
navigate like his personal life, his work, and his kids.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
So Jeff doesn't have any kids? No, okay, And is
that a conversation too, because then also like, since he
doesn't have any what are his thoughts about that?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I mean, we've talked about it. So I did this
thing like maybe eight years ago when I was shooting
the Kardashians where we froze our eggs.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Okay, So I think I have like eight or level,
so you're open to that.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I think. So I feel like I'm a really good mom.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I feel like you guys are so fire too, like and
just with like how connected you guys are with each other. Yeah,
you know they close.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, we're like, I'm obsessed with my kids, Like I
do everything with my kids.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's funny because it has to be hard for them
to to have like you as their mom. Yeah, because
you're famous.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I feel like it's harder for Scotty that's in the NBA.
The other ones are okay, but like Scotty being in
the NBA, Like, you know, if I say crazy things
on TV, he's like, oh my.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
God, did you have to say that? He's in the
lock room. H what are you saying? What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm like, oh, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Mean it, like it came off like you're used to me. Yeah. Well, okay,
so date dot Com. So Jordie Door, you definitely I
think could be a good candidate too. Yeah, I need help.
It's hard out here.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
You know what it is you have to swim in
the right water. That's a good point, because if you're
in the wrong water, you can be amazing, but you're
not gonna You're not gonna that is.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I almost feel like that's in another country at this point,
I feel.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like, you know what's interesting Now that I'm dating Jeff
and all of his friends are like Ivy League guys,
I just feel like it's a whole nother world out there.
I'm like, this is Harvard, this is Stanford, this is
penns Down. I'm like, this is an amazing place to be.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Where did you guys meet?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
So we both used to go to the same gym.
The owner of the gym had his tenure anniversary, and
it was like at this place called Zz's in Miami,
it's like a private membership.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
We have that here too, exactly.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
And so we went and we met there.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
See, go to the gym is the moral of the story.
Go to the right Jeff, you know so funny. One
of my homeboys put on his social on his stories.
He was like, this is a woman at the gym
and I really want to like talk to her, but
I don't know how I should approach her. WHOA how
do you approach?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Like?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
What would you want? What if I. Yeah, he wants
to talk to somebody that he sees at the gym,
he should bump into her, like basically, yeah, yeah, he should.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
You've done that before. I've done that before when I
was like younger, Like if I was like if I
was like nineteen so cy.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
And I was.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I was at a club and there was like a
cute bouncer, remember, like running into and be like, oh
my god, I'm sorry, and then they start talking to
you and then okay, but and then that organs on distress.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Does that work? If a guy bumps you, right, he
can pump inch you, but.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Like hug you softly and like touch you, and then you're.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Like, WHOA, well, I don't know what. Not really cute,
it doesn't matter. He can't do well that now that's weird.
Really would be bumps into you?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
And no, it depends. If he's really cute and you
like him, you don't want to hug him too.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
You've fallen on him. So how all right? So how
did Jeff approach you?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
We were just in the same corner and his cousin,
I know his cousin. His cousin was offering us shots
and he was standing behind me and he passed him
the shot and I just turned around. He was walking
behind me.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
He was like God, was like, oh yeah, tequila. Tequila.
So then what happened? Like did he ask me? You know?

Speaker 2 (13:18):
So we just hung out all night and then my
friends wanted to go to this dinner party and I
said I have to go, and he's like, I'm going
with you.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well, damn, see what I mean? How you get people
to do that? Very bad? He's even talking about marriage
already and it's been seven months. Jokes and that. Guys
don't just joke about that, you know what.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I think I just do that to guys because my
mom got married in a week and my parents were
still married. And I feel like I when I was
dating Scotty, we were engaged for three months. We were
dating for three months and got engaged and got married.
You were so young too, Yeah, And I feel like
I just come off like that. I'm like, I'm not
messing around, Like what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (13:52):
She? How are you sure about them?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I mean, I had a great relationship with my celphone
for twenty years. It was pretty six was twenty years
to restart kids. Yeah, yeah, and we're great friends. Like
I love him he loves me, do anything for me,
do anything for me. I really haven't been sure up
until now, to be honest with Like, you know, I
dated a little, you know, a few guys here and there.
But you know, when you're married for a long time,

(14:16):
you're not necessarily looking to like being another relationship. So
you're trying to figure out where you are, where your
mind is, like you know, it's like different, like.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
And has some fun too. Imagine being married all that
time and now you're like the rest back into the world,
like here have some fun.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I know, No, life is good. Life has been fun.
I feel like it's I think I did it the
right way. Like I got married super young, I had
my kids right, and I was like I don't eggs right,
and now it's like I'm only like having fun.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
What about? Okay, So your friends with Lisa, and you
know clearly you guys have been like bumping hands, but
you love each other, right, you guys have history, and
you feel like in that situation that her person is
not necessarily the right person for her.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I you know, honestly, it all stems from this, like
I'm very loyal. Okay, Okay, So if you're dating someone
and you break up and you're my friend, And then
the person is literally, you break up with your boyfriend.
He's bashing you publicly. If you're cold with my enemy,
you're not friends with me. If you are cold with
my enemy, then like you are not my friend. And

(15:24):
she keeps showing me she is not my friend. She's
following him on Instagram. It was like, I was like,
why would you follow him on Instagram? You've never had
one conversation with us man that didn't include me.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
And I was there for her when I tell you,
I was there for her, Like she would call me
at two o'clock in the morning crying, and I'm such
a good loyal friend, like I'd always answer. I'd be like,
do you need me? Are you good?

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Like whatever.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I was like, I knew she was going through a
really hard time and I was such a good friend
to her. And I'm like, I don't I'm stronger than that,
Like I don't need someone to do that for me.
But it's like it'd be nice to know that your
friend that you supported all those times could just be like, Hey,
I love you, I'm sorry you're going through this, you know,
let me unfollow him?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Because that's like whack, right. I get that this is
interesting because I so this guy. I know, he introduced
me to his wife because she moved to New York.
He was like, she don't know a lot of people here.
So I ended up really becoming friends with her. I
knew him like casually, but me and her actually started
like hanging out. Really liked her, and then he dogged
her and he didn't like that. I continued to you

(16:26):
know what, it got awkward. He never said nothing to
me necessarily, he just started being like weird, like because
I also felt bad. They had kids together. She moved here,
she didn't have any friends, and she didn't do anything
to him, but he dogged her out, and so I
stayed out of it. But I wasn't gonna like stop
being friends with her, you.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Know what I'm saying, Yeah, no, but that's like you
had your own relationship with Yeah, you're saying.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
She doesn't even have her own release.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
And they've never had one conversation that didn't include me.
They've never hung out, they've never done anything without me.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Do you think you and Liasta would be friends if
it wasn't for the show. Still, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I feel like we're different because that it might also
just be you guys are just friends for TV too.
Like No, I feel like, you know, we we travel,
like we have similar circles in Mia. Miami's kind of small,
we go to the same places. I feel like that
is what it is. But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I just feel like when someone really really needed you
and you were there for them, and then when the
roles get reversed, and the one time that I need
you to support me, you're like sitting here making it
about you, you.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Know what I'm reasoning. Yeah, she's in a situation.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I think she's in a situation.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
She's with this guy, and I think it's him more
so than her, you know, And so I feel like
she's just like following like whatever he says, you know
what I'm saying. But it's just weird because like you
got to know who your friends are. I feel like
in our world, like you got to know who your
friends are, who's there for you and who's like.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
There to go to war with you? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Things go belly up And I was up front for her,
I testified in.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Court for her.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
It's like bro like on court, I'm a real good friend.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Your friends. She's the only one who's still like following yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
And making it like it's my fault from I'm insensitive
for me even saying that, And I'm like, how am I?

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Like?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Am I deliver? I'm from Chicago, so I'm really nice
to tell I'm not, you know what I'm saying. Let
him know, like I'm really nice until I'm not, and
I'm just like I'm you know, when you're hurt, you
just kind of go off. I'm like, how are you
my friend? But yet, like it's so hard for you
to do this one thing.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
See, I was friends with Gig's ex, but I was
friends with him first also, and then he got mad
because I stay friends with you know. Yeah, but that's
you know what I think.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I think when someone's publicly bashing you, like, that's different.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, that is.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
And it's like a person you just met a year ago.
It's not like it's like a ten year. You've been
around them for ten years, you traveled with them, you
you know what I'm saying. No, it's like you met
this man all of five minutes ago, bro, Like he
doesn't know who you are, right, you think you have,
like friendship trauma.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I feel like you've been through some things where unfair
it could be unfairly that like you've gotten the bad
end of things.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I think whenever you're in a situation with someone that's
more famous than you, whether it's my husband, whether it's whatever,
whoever's the bigger fish will always win.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Okay that's fair to say. Yes, that's fair to say.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
So that's how it works. And I come from a
school of like, I don't need anybody. I don't need anybody.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
You think you have people in your corner that are
for real in your corner though, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I feel like I don't feel like I need to
be friends with people to for like to be fake.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, exactly for the fake of it. It's genuine. Yeah,
Like if I.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Don't have, like, I'm good, I need real friends. I
don't really care about the hocus pocus like, oh, we're
like real friends on Instagram, Like that's not my goal
in life.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
That's a good space to be in there because sometimes
like that's something you have to learn. I feel like, yeah,
until you get that lesson, you don't really know, you
know what I mean, Like we have to go through
some traumatic Like have we all had friendship traumas? Absolutely?
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
It's really weird because I feel like I'm so forgiving that,
Like I could go through almost anything with my friends
and I'll almost forgive you because I feel like I'll
understand your circumstances.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I always see things.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I always see people for like, Okay, you were going
through this, Okay, this happened to you. Like and maybe
it's because like I'm the oldest of like five siblings,
maybe because I've had four kids. So I know if
people go through things, and I have to see the
good in you, like regardless to what you do in life.
I always see the good in people. Okay, So and
you're a cancer and I'm a cancer there.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
You Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I feel like I'm more like that. So I can't
forgive my friends. So if Lisa was to come back
and be like, listen, I made a mistake. I shouldn't
have done that, then I'm gonna be like, it's fine,
like you were going through things. I get it.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Would you forgive Marcus? Ever? I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I don't have anything against him.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Okay, that's nothin there's you know because he said he
was publicly bashing you.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, you know what I feel like I when I
leave a situation. Honestly, I don't keep up with what
you're doing. I don't care what you do. I'm in
my own own vessel. I'm doing my own thing. God
is blessing me and every which you know, way, shape
or form I've ever dreamed of. So I'm not worried
about other people.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
How is it for death if he had when he
has to hear like you know, because I'm sure that's
annoying to him that he has to because that was
your first like super public marriage for sure relationships, So
now he has to hear things like on watch what
Happens Live? You know, it can get a little messy
when people are bringing up things. But you know, with
you and Marcus and he's there, how does he navigate that?

(21:31):
And have you guys had a conversation about, you know,
anything that might make him uncomfortable?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
You know, I think when you're dating someone that's mature
and emotionally mature, it's a big difference. You know what
I'm saying. He's very emotionally mature and like not phased
by all the you know.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I know he wrote a book about meditating, right, so
do you guys meditate and stuff he's been teaching me.
I knew it. You know what.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
He's very he's very calm, and he's very like he's
always happy.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
He wakes up every day so happy. That's nice, that's amazing. Yeah,
how you wake up is really frames your day absolute
because you could wake up and say I hate that,
I gotta get up so early. Here we go. Or
you could wake up and be like that morning, I
got licen next to me. Ready, just stay going, And
that's like a whole different way. You know how they
say you wake up on the wrong side of the bed,

(22:20):
But it's just how you look at life like a rite.
Today's another day to have some you know, amazing opportunities
to get things right from yesterday. Or you could look
at it like, oh, I hate my job, I don't
feel like going in.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
And then you have a bad day, right and it's
late traffic, you spill some coffee, like you just one
thing after the next happens.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
You know, you set the tone definitely.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
But I also feel like you attract that too.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, that's a fact. Misery loves come absolutely now has
he met the kids yet? Yeah? And so what do
they think? They love them? Okay, good, Yeah, they love them.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
They think it's really nice.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
You like twelve guys too. I think it's what you're
used to, you know, right, you know what I'm saying.
If you're imagine you with somebody, sure, that would be crazy.
I tried that before. Didn't work. I know you didn't
date somebody short.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I did, not, like I'm sure, but I do did
a short guy. You know what I always used to
do when I would date guys, because I would look
at them next to me, like, and then I'd be like,
this doesn't look right.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
We gotta look right together. Yeah, it doesn't like I
don't know the short guys. Boy, they got so mad
one day on this show when we were talking about
short guys.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
But don't sleep on short guys. Yeah, short guys have
a lot to offer. Listen, they have a lot to offer.
I'm saying, like, they're probably better boyfriends. Why because I's
not online.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Date dot com.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
All the short guys are killing it. No, but there's
something about like you know, Shorter.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Said that statistically they have bigger penises.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh, there you go. Stats don't lie is.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
That Is that really a statistic? It is for my research.
How's your relationships in? How long has it been for you?

Speaker 4 (23:58):
It'll be one year next month, okay, but we waited
like eight months to make it like an official relationship
because he lives in a different city.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
It was long distance. But we're thriving. Oh good, Okay,
not just surviving, but thriving. Yeah, he's good. We're in
a very good space planning our one year anniversary. Guess
what we said we're gonna do. What go back to
the cameria.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Okay, We're gonna get a room there and just like
go back to the rooftop and like where it all begins.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Because there we're definitely there. I'm gonna be back again. Yeah,
it was. It was a little party for show we
are now. So let's talk about this season because it's
only been two episodes so far of Real Housewives of
Miami and so we're getting like a little glimpse of
how things are going to play out. So how are

(24:54):
you feeling about things? Because I know, I feel like
I was.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Really emotional this year, like just going through you know,
like a breakup publicly. I feel like it's hard, you know,
especially when you care about the person you know and
then just like hard and.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
So what did you learn from that now to carry
into something new?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I think, like you know, when you see signs, see them,
you know what I'm saying. I feel like sometimes I
like I'm a fixer. I like to fix people. I
like to fix things, and I always feel like I
can make anyone feel good because that's like my personality.
But I feel like sometimes you just can't, you know
what I'm saying. Sometimes you have to like be like realistic,
Like listen, you are not about to fix the situation.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Try though, right, you try?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I do try, and then I you know what happens though,
Then when I leave, it gets really bad because you
give them a taste of something that's so good, but
they don't appreciate it, and then when you leave, they
like spirally.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
That breakup was crazy, you know. It was also kind
of like no one believes it because it would be
a breakup and then you guys be spotted together again.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I know, I know. It's like Lisa said, it was
a fake breakup. I'm like, who's having fake breakups? I'm
not doing that. That's so weird.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, but that's also what does tend to happen in
real life, Like you break up and then you miss
the person, and then you're like, all right, let's give
it another try. Yeah, then you break up again, but
you say no.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
But I've never been in a relationship like that. I
feel like, when we break up, we're breaking up. This
is the only relationship that I ever had. It was
like three times, like we broke up, we got back together.
I was like trying to like buy into the idea
of it being better, you know, like it could be better.
He's going to work on them, trying to it. Yeah,
and then finally like I was like, what am I doing,
I'm Larsa. Get the hell off this, right, am Larsa?

(26:35):
Like I'm Larsa. I don't need this.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Like no, it's also sometimes had, like you said, in
the public eye, because you don't want to like feel
like it failed.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, you're trying for me, Like I worked hard for
that relationship. People were hitting on me from before, and
they had all these stories that we were I knew him.
I'm like, I never knew these people, Like I never
knew these.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Pe You've got a lot of flak for that, and
so sometimes people are like I told you so, And
when people do that, it makes you more.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I want to be like, right, you're stubborn as all
trying to make it work.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Feel like you get that a lot too, of people
kind of second guessing your truth or what you say.
I feel like a lot of even on traitors, when
no one believes you about Dan and yes and no
one clocked that. And I feel like even from the
press and certain things and with your relationships or even
with your public friendships, people don't believe necessarily what you're saying.

(27:29):
But usually then it comes out that that was the truth,
And so how do you navigate that?

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I don't know. I feel like, you know, the people
that know me know that I'm like real and I
don't really care about all the other people.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
And then the truth always comes out any.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah for not. You know what I don't do is
I don't like I don't handle things publicly. I've told
you this before. I don't really like speak like I
don't speak negative on people that are in my past,
Like I don't do that. Yeah, I'm saying I'm very
like I'll take it to the grave, like I know
where so many.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Bodies are buried.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I was fucking like beard them, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
But all certain things you've said, you know, people ask
you questions like I remember an interview you did where
you talked about how you briefly dated Tristan Thompson before Chloe,
and I feel like that kind of like went under
the radar a little bit. But I'm in my head
when I saw that, I was like, there's a lot more.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
I just I just never like, I'm not like that,
you know what I'm saying. It's like, whatever the perception is,
let it be.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
It's that's that's another level of strength. Yeah, yeah, I'm
not some tough skin.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, I feel like there's no point, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
How many times do you start typing back a response
to somebody on social media and then say, you know what,
I gotta I'm not even going to do it, you
know what?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I the other day like I feel like I really
wanted to go off on some people I have some
extra time, but then I'm like, who am I fighting with?
Personal not even relevant in my life, and then like,
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
I love you everything.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
You know what's interesting people that talk negative about you?
If you ever hit them up back on DM and
you're like, let me tell you what really happened. And
I talk to them, then they'll be like, thank you
so much for clarifying that. I knew you were amazing,
Like they change your so.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
You've done that. Yeah, you know what's crazy?

Speaker 4 (29:11):
As more recently, I started another show, Conversations on Down
That TV, and I've been saying.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Some crazy shit because Gigi's crazy.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Everybody knows and I just really don't give a fuck,
like I don't care, so and people tend to make
their own scenario, Like if you say one sentence, they'll
make up a whole scenario. Like I said, I've dated
the order guy when I was fifteen in high school
or whatever, and they're like, oh, you were a victim.
He was raping you and like all of these things

(29:41):
and where were your parents? And at one point it's
like I felt myself wanting to respond, but then I'm like, no,
for what you know. But I even thought about this
one girl. I even thought about DM and her and
trying to like kind of not even really clear it up,
but just give her the facts, because you're sitting here
making all these assumptions and you really have no idea
of what the facts were, like have been fifteen dating

(30:01):
a twenty three year old. But I was also a
freshman in high school at thirteen, and I had my
own job and I became a mom at seventeen, Like
I was way more advanced than the.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Average twenty three year old should be. No, No, And
I'm not saying that, and I'm not saying.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
That I get it an older guy.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, so much. And I think you did it back then.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
I was about to say, the time back then was
different and we were in nineties kids, the last key
kids that whole era.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
You were one of those kids.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
We were way more advanced than the fifteen year old's
there and no way in shape of my saying that
it was something that shit was morally riter should have
been done.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
But it was my life. And I remember my friend's
older brother liked me when I was in high school,
and I felt like he he had like he used
to drive us to school, and I felt like he
was so old because I think I was like fifteen
or sixteen. He had a suit on. How old was
he he probably, I don't know, he was in his twenties.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Okay, Well, there's a big in his twenties. He could
have been twenty nine. I don't know exactly how old
he was.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
It was her older brother and he gave me like
a gift for Valentine's that I remember told this old man,
you know, because I and I looked really young too. Yeah,
you see, like me at fifteen and sixty, I looked
like I was like twelve, you know what I mean. Yeah,
so I thought that was girls. But you said when
you were sixteen you.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Dated like I liked older guys like eighteen.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
You know.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I get that's still in school together at the same
time nineteen and now you're like younger guys like it's
weird and they like you. Yeah, but the fact that
you dm somebody before I really thought about doing it,
but I didn't. But I feel better knowing that you've
done it before, because she felt like I was like
these people driving me making me crazy like that, I
want to just like, you got to be careful drink kids.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
If you publicly, like go at them really hard and
like they do something to themselves, they could come back and.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Say, guess what, that's why I just didn't.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
You have to be very careful how you navigate, Like
I just respond.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I just learned, and I've also learned from being on
this podcast to just not even just let it. Let
them say what they want to say, let them come
up with whatever scenario that makes them feel like they
know what they know.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Like they it's almost like you don't know shit.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
When people thought, like when me and my susan broke up,
they're like, oh, she cheated on him. I was like,
I'm never like, I was like what mm hmm, you
know what I'm saying? Yeah, that was ever said nothing
no negative about you. No, he did, like this GQ
interview and he was like, we were you know, we
were broken up way before like I started dating other people.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
He seemed mad, chill. I've interviewed him once, like a
long time ago when I was as serious, but he
seemed like, you know, just a nice, chill person and clearly,
like you said, it was a successful marriage, it lasted it.
You know, you guys had four beautiful kids together and
still cordial with each other. Yep. When he's dating, do
you meet anybody? Has he ever like been like I

(32:31):
want you to meet. He's got a girlfriend okay, and
she's nice.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I like her.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Okay, good.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
See that's a good space to meet when you could
be happy and be like, she's nice.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
No, she's nice.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I'm super nice to her. I feel like she's trow
my kids. I want him to be happy. I don't
want to cause any problems for him because then I
feel like that'll go trickle down to my.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Kids, right, So I don't do that. Would you guys
like hang out you and her? Or I like her?
I would hang out with her.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
I mean she's nice.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
You know it's interesting since we just talked about JG's boyfriend.
Her boyfriend is how old is he? Twenty nine? Twenty nine,
so he's a lot and initially she didn't want to
date him for that purpose.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
She's like, my daughter is twenty eight, so they're like
very close in age, almost approximately the same age. And
I just felt like I should not be dating somebody
that's the same age as my kid. But if I
didn't have a kid when I was a kid, he
wouldn't be the same age as my kid, right. And
for two, he's very mature, like he's very much not

(33:29):
the average twenty nine year old, So that helps a
lot too.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I dated a guy that was forty seven years old
before I dated Jeff and he was so immature. And
when I broke up with him, I said to him,
there's a reason why I dated you. And he's like
why And I was like, just to prove that age
is nothing but a number. I never did anyt wane
Like you again.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
You were a test and you failed.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
I was like no, because he literally like, you know,
I think some guys know what they want. You just
got to like know you know what I mean? You
have to be with someone that knows what they want.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, what did he do? That was like so immature?
Like what is so?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
He literally was like I never want to get married.
I'm afraid of commitment. I just the things he would
do and stuff. And every time I would say stop
calling me, then like you know who I am, stop
calling me, And then he would like go crazy and
buy me like thousands of dollars in flowers and send
me all this stuff and send me bags and send
me all this stuff. Like every time I would like

(34:22):
kind of be mean to him, try to push him away,
he would try to like do more and like try
to come back. No one damn well, like he was
dating someone like he's in like he's a public figure.
He was dating someone he like wasted her time. I
was like, bro, you wasted her time, had a kid
with her, and didn't marry her. So chances are that's
just who you're going to be forever, right, let me
keep it moving.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
He liked the chase.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
I think he liked the chase, but I also think
like he just you know, he just didn't want to
like step up away like a forty I was like
forty seven years old, Like, you got to decide what
you want. What at forty seven years old, you don't
know what you want? You've got issues.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I feel that I wait about my ex write Some
people just don't right. They could be forty one. In fact,
your ex is older than you. And he definitely was
like not knowing no, which is why. But I feel
like you convinced yourself you didn't want to get married
too at one point if it probably wasn't worth it, right.
But I also felt like maybe that's a protective thing
where you're like, well, he's never gonna marry me. I
don't want to give anyway, you know, yeah cucket, yeah,

(35:20):
because now you're now.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
We are getting married, like we talk about it all
the time. We just was talking about it on the
way here.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
What Yeah, so there you go, like, I mean he
hasn't proposed yet, but I know what's happening.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
So yeah, you're in a good place.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Do you guys feel like there was ever a moment
of having to have like a learning curve with dating
younger guys where it was like, ooh, I'm not quite
used to that and it was like an adjustment.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I mean I think no, because I was dating that
forty seven year old man and he showed me that
there was no adjustment, like.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
You know what I thought that it would be, And no,
it's not. My boyfriend's younger than me too, and he
acts like an old man, Yeah doesn't he does. He
has old man energy. I'm like, because people be thinking
he's older than me. Yeah, he does have energy. Yeah,
he don't want to like he's not even like an
outside type of person, very calm too well until something happens,

(36:12):
he's you know, and I think like I'd be having
it turned down because I don't want him like if
somebody does something, I'll be having to make sure I
stay calm because I don't want him to get mad.
Oh yeah, because when he gets mad. It's like he goes.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Zero to one hundred. Yeah, it's always the quiet ones.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Like that exactly. So, but yeah, I think you know
it's that because you're right. I have dated older guys
and they do a lot of them. I think sometimes
it's also where you grow up. You know. I do
feel like people may hate me for saying this. My
boyfriend is from New York, but I feel like guys
from New York, most of them can be a lot
more immature to really. Yes, yeah, because people in New

(36:48):
York get married a lot later in life than people grinding. Yeah, yeah,
they're hustling.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, grinding, They're trying to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
You're trying to figure it out. It's a lot of hustle.
And I think it's really hard to also feel like
you're in a space where you have a house, you
own this. Things are so expensive to live here, and
some people don't feel like they want to settle down
until they have those things.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
You know. It's really interesting if you look at different cultures,
like the Asian culture, everyone is married. If you look
at certain cultures and they're like socioeconomic, like, family life
is so much better. So if you're married, Like it's
like dual income in one home. It's just so much
better for the environment too. You spend lots of money
on water.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Like I'm just saying, like, it's just like I'm doing
my part to save the world.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I'm saying, it makes more sense to be married, you
know what I'm saying it Culturally, I feel like Americans now,
it's like nobody really wants to get married.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
People are scared of divorce too, I think.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
But I feel like people are scared of stepping up
to the plate too. And I think, you know, when
you have all these talks about the male loneliness epidemic
and all that stuff, It's like, to me, there's a
lot lack of accountability in that because women as a
whole have stepped up. We're more educated, we're making more money,
we're more independent, and I feel like we're looking for

(38:10):
people to match that energy, and they don't even want
to do that. They want to stay where. Oh it
was enough when I was taking care of the household
and that was enough. It's like, no, we want you
to be gentlemen, we want you to be a leader,
we want you know what I mean, And we don't
have that and so I don't know how we continue
to invest in marriages and relationships when like, it's not

(38:31):
an even partnership anymore.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I feel like, but that's how you have to swim
in different water.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, I feel like you. Yeah, I feel like she'd
be a great girlfriend, a great wife. I don't know
what's going on out here.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
It's hard. And you know what's happened a lot lately
is maybe two guys in a row have been on
my body. I mean calling me down seven times a day,
texting me da da da da. We will make a
date the day, will call and I'm like, where's the
where's the confirmation? Like we said two o'clock. Why is

(39:08):
it twelve forty five? And I haven't heard from you?
So I was like, you know what, let me give
this person a benefit of doubt, and I texted him.
I was like, I'm not coming across town if I
haven't heard from you.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Whatever. Yeah, this man does not respond for four hours.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Oh god, did you block him after that?

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Well?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
I like seeing them gravel, so I didn't block him,
but I haven't answered him since seventeen Text messages, tomb
phone calls, dms every day, being like where are you?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Where? Where are you? Where are you? And I'm like,
you played with my time.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Well, he's just a time oyster. Don't even invest in that.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
And then that happened again. The last time we were
at lip service, I was supposed to go out to
dinnerver someone.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Oh, different guy, different guy.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
And he'd been chasing me down whatever his friends even
knew about me.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
And then I was like, yeah, I'm done. Where are
we going? Crickets? What this was last week? This was
so crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
You need to date a British guy.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
He was British. Ah, maybe I thought too skeptic.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Hello, because I feel like I see you with the
British guy.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I feel I've been feeling that lately.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, you give me like you can be with the
European guy.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I've been feeling that lately. Sounds like we need a
trip and win the trip. We should.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
You know. It's interesting. I feel like the girls that
don't pay any mind to guys get all the guys
right right. It's weird because it's like, at the end
of the day, it's really about the chase. Men love
to chase that and if you and nowadays, I feel
like in twenty twenty five. Girls make guys feel so
special and like they're the prize, and so there's so
many girls chasing that you're getting diluted. You're diluting all

(40:40):
of our stock.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
You know, It's crazy because I've been so big, I'm
always so busy. People really do have to like, if
you wanted to go out with me, you gotta find me.
You gotta make sime for me. You have to be like, oh,
what time, And especially like because when we first started talking,
you know, it was I used to have to get
up so early in the morning, so we weren't even
talking yet, but he would like always ask me out,
but I would be like, I'm sorry, I can't go

(41:02):
to dinner at nine. I have to get up at
four o'clock in the morning. It's not going to happen,
and so I would never go. And then when I
started this new show, I could get up later now,
and that's really when I was able to like, okay,
have a little time to focus. But I think guys
do like when you're not available and you can't let
them get away with stuff like you know, although I
would love to hear what his reason was, which one

(41:25):
the first guy like that well first, So the first
guy was like, hold on, I'm actually gonna read the
text because it made me laugh that he thought I
was never gonna respond. Okay, so he said he sent this,
look at this currently, my bad.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
I knocked out late, got an email half my company
is getting laid off Monday.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
So I was.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Stressed, okay to me if he had given me a
real apology, and then said, I'm so sorry this has
happened at work, saying my bad.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
And this dof there a car accident.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
You need to be deceaved for me to feel bad,
like you should have been laid up in the hospitals,
have the pictures with everything, because I would have responded,
but you'll never hear from me again.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
And then what about last week? The guy from last week?
He just never even answered because we ended up going
to dinner.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah, probably his wife found out the next day he
was going home to London. So I don't know, I
don't know, I don't know what happened. I just thought
it was mad, weird, he.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Trying to have fun here while he was here. And
then he writes home, right, you didn't want to go
on that date anyhow.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
So when he comes back. Are you going to give him? Yeah,
he would have to go through a lot. He would
have to go through.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I feel like guys just said the precedence. They know
when they meet you what they want with you. They
determined what they want exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
When you break up, do you like delete all the
text messages all or do you just let it you?

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Do you give me that I delete you from my memory?

Speaker 1 (43:03):
I delete you. I'm like, I went to the zoo
with you. I'm so removed.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Anytime someone leaves my life, I'm so removed and I
feel great.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
It's weird. I wake up, I'll be like, damn, I
feel better. It's like a burden is gone.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
I feel like that way about certain like friendships and
things like that. When you were friends with somebody and
then it was just like, why is this friendship so hard?
It's too much drama? And then yeah, I don't necessarily
delete their stuff, but I will be like, you do
wake up feeling and that's how you know it wasn't
good for you. If you wake up and you feel
like refreshed, I'm deleting all that shit. I feel like

(43:39):
a lot of.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
People are jealous. You got to make sure you're on
the right front. Yeah, yeah, I could see that of
women are jealous like other women.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
And nobody wants to believe that too. But it's just
like people would tell me that about people and be like, yeah,
you know, she seems like she's and I'm like, no,
that's not true, because I never want to feel like
anybody would be like that because you're not like that.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
You have to accept that. I found out that I
had to accept that in about a year ago. I
ended a friendship with a girl that I was friends
with for like eight years, and at the end of it,
I'm like, everybody was right, you know, And I didn't
want to feel like that because you don't. Yeah, and
I'm just like your friends.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I want to work for my friends and find out
they're jealous.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
And it's the single black female, the single white female,
Like you want to be you one or the other.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
And you know, when you really know, if you feel
like you have to like not talk about your accomplishments
and things like that because you don't want them to
feel bad, you know, if you can't like share stuff
like that, and.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
You expect for your friends to be there and support
of your congratulations and there's this.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
One girl I used to go shopping, right, and so, like,
say we went to the mall together or something, and
I would be buying something. She would be sending like, God, damn,
you spend how much? I'm like, since back up, I
haven't the years? Why is she over my shoulder looking
at how much I spend? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
And then I wished that she could spend when I
had a girlfriend that literally I was dating this guy
in LA and she would be like, Oh, he's not
good enough, he's not cute, he's not this.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
And I broke up.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah, I broke up with him because she kept convincing
me he was not cute. Not two weeks later she
was dating him.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yep, she wanted him. M hm.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
So it's kind of yeah, it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
That is wild. All right. Now, let's go back to
this new relationship because it's his lip service. So the
first time you guys hung out, right, you were at
the gym, and then you said you spent the whole
day together. No, we were at a party. Oh okay,
you met at the gym, but then went we met
at gym.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Party, gym party. It was a ten year University of Okay.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
It was.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
It's gym.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
It's like a really it's like one of the best
gyms in Miami where they trained like a lot of
the NBA players, baseball player, like they trained all the
pro athletes. And so he had his ten year anniversary.
I went and met him, and then my friends wanted
to leave and go to this other dinner and I
was like, I have to leave, and then they with you.
He's like, I'm leaving with you. So he left with me,
and then we just kind of had a night like

(46:03):
we just went to all these different places, and then
he wrote me the next day and sent me an
itinerary of what we were going to do the next day. Oh,
and then he sent me flowers.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
He was not playing. I had a schedule. Oh. He
you know.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
It's funny because I said, I want to go back
and read the text messages between us and he sent
me because I was like, we have such a long thread.
He found it, like all the messages and it was
like so cute from day one. And he sent me
this like itinerary, like I'm picking you up at seven thirty.
We're going to get drinks here, We're going to this
piano bar. We have dinner reservations here, and he had
like a whole night planned for us, and it was
like the next night.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
I love it. And it wasn't like where do you
want to go?

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Had the itinerary when.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
He had these flowers and the cards said something like
you know, like it was like so beautiful, like getting
to meet you. You're a very special person and like
all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
That's amazing, Yeah, because it also has to be a
little intimidating to talk to you for the average you know,
for the average person. But he was so on it
and kind did he so he didn't have any thing
going on in his life that he had to clear
out either, like girl situation.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, I don't normally when I meet guys, they kind
of drop on my own.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I don't know, you gotta go, you gotta go rest
in peace.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I kind of you're supposed to give somebody like a
little bit of time drop off like the little fly ons.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Do you want to know those things? Like do you
would you want him to be?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Like no, we we were like so open from day
one because like we would talk about stuff. So like
the first night we met, like I was in another
guy's car and he got in my car with the driver.
And then the night the first night we met, we
ended up going to this restaurant called Giselle and he
said he dated the girl that worked there. Oh wow,

(47:44):
so we already like it was like from the very beginning,
I was like, by the way, the security that's not
really mine, that's this guy.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
That's a great foundation though, to like from the beginning,
just kind of lay it out there, because.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
We have to realize that life doesn't start when you
meet somebody. We are always say you have somebody in
everybody has somebody in some capacity.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Rather it's a talking stage.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Rather it's an x that you're still lingering on with,
whether it's dick in the box, you know, breaking case
in versity, no matter the case, Like, we always just
have somebody that we're just that is present. So it's like,
when you meet somebody, you do have to take the
time to Okay, if I'm going to move forward with
this person, I need to end these things. And it's
like for him to be so open and you guys
both to be able to be so open from the

(48:25):
gate like that, Yeah, that's beautiful. Because people feel like
they have to hide, you know, and it's just like,
you had a life before you met me. Your life
didn't begin with me. There was somebody before me in
some type of capacity, and that's fine. I don't feel
like that's something that you should have to hide or like,
you know.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yeah, did you guys cass on that first the first night? Yeah,
it's like, yeah, that's all right. And he was fun.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
He was like very normal, fun, nice, Like you know
what's really weird. I feel like when you meet someone
that you actually like, the way they touch you makes
you feel good, right, unic stopt and you could be
with someone that offers you the world and if they
touch you, you want a crint.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
You're like discussing me.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, so I feel like he always had that, like
when you would touch my arm, I was like the chemistry.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, it was like chemistry.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
It was good from like the day one.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Have you ever tried to make something work with somebody
that you felt like was good on paper?

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, the forty seven year old was great on paper. Yes,
it was like he's an NBA coach, like it would
have been great, Like, you know, it's both of our
worlds and sheh and it just was not what I
thought I was gonna be.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Yeah, that's unfortunate. Yeah, because people would think, like, Okay,
that's the NBA coach, he's got a good career, you know,
in a space that like you know a lot about
that space too. He could have been on the show.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Oh No, we literally, like I feel like our conversations
were about like his games and like you know, it's
like that kind of conversation, Like I feel like I
thrive in that community.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Right, somebody you know what I'm saying, somebody that he
could relate to. Yeah, and I like, like I watched
I love watching basketball, but he was Peter Pan and
he never want to us. Yeah, were you ever asked
to be on The Basket Wives?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah? The problem with that show is I talk a
lot of ship and I'm sure to get into physical fights.
You Like, I'm not that's not me, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
But I'm not.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
No, but I'm saying I do talk like I'd be like,
well you did say it, and then like you know
those girls like they like to flip tables and all
that on my show, we don't really feel.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I think I'm trying to think how has this season
been what a basketball? Yeah, it's the beginning. It was
in Miami, wasn't it. Yeah, that's where it started starting
in Miami. I feel like I might have been around
for a scene or two. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. And

(50:46):
she looks good. I just she still look in a
movie recently, she's been acting. What about you? With acting?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Oh my god? They just keep they keep sending me
these lines. So NBC calls me and they're like, hey,
do you want to be on this piece cock show?
And I was like, send me the lines, and they
sent me the lines. Girl, I can't memory. It's nothing.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
I'm so bad.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
And I was on for a week and then I
called like my NBC person and I was like, I
don't think I can.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Do this type of character. Is it?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
It was like a normal It was like a normal role,
Like I should have been able to do it right,
But I like had myself on ten. I was dressed out,
and then I wanted to cancel, and then finally I didn't.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
I was so bad.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Then a week ago, I get another opportunity to do
a movie with Kevin Hart and it was like a
kissing scene. So I screenshot and I sent it to
Jeff and I was like, what do you think of this?
And Jeff's like yeah, right. So then I was like,
no more, I care more about my relationship making him
feel good than I do about some role because you know,
I'm not going I'm not Anne Hathaway. I'm not going
to be like Denzel anytime soon. So why am I

(51:46):
going to invest in that when I have like a
really good situation with him?

Speaker 1 (51:50):
So with the meditation, you said, he's been kind of
teaching you about that and here.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Are journals and like he's really smart, like he I
feel like maybe because he's like his family's really smart too.
Dad's an engineers that as a tech company.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Oh that's amazing. Yeah, it's a whole different like yeah
type of space for you to be into.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
No, he's like very analytical.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
See that's what we all need relationships that kind of
compliment us, but that we could learn things from He
can learn things from you and you can learn things
from him. But he also plays basketball, right or he did?

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yeah he did play years.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Okay, he played seven years overseas and now he's in
this other space because I saw he's done interviews and
everything about his book and about meditation and all of that.
So when it comes to is that different, Like I know,
in the bedroom, tanti sex is a real thing.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Like I'm not talking about more sex scenes. I'm just saying,
like I feel like they ask me about this all
the time. I'm like, I can't talk about this.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
But you know, sometimes it's not actually sex, it's more
like a connection. And yeah, well I.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Don't know what you call it, but I do it,
and I.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Do it well. I just wonder as we're getting older,
how to like what are there new things to learn
when it comes to the bedroom. You know, chandeliers, No,
do you do a split mid air? I can't do
a split even on the floor.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
You got to learn how to do that. I'm just kidding, kidding,
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
But I do think that different people unlock different things
in you. Yeah, for sure, absolutely, you know, like us,
when I sleep, like I can cuddle all night sleeping,
I've never really been like that before.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
You know what's interesting. I feel like when I was
in other relationships, I could never sleep with guys. I
just couldn't sleep. I would be like had I gotta
go home or you gotta leave, or like I could
never sleep and with Jeff, I sleep like a log. Yeah,
it's just like I'm really comfortable.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
They said, if you fall asleep fast, but the person
you're with, that's like a real chemistry thing, Like if
you okay, do.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
You want to hear what happened to us on our
way coming here? You guys, we flew commercial and our
first light we got on, we were both so tired,
was like us seven am flight. We fall asleep, and
then the flight attendant says, hey, you guys have to
get off the plane and we're switching planes because there
was a problem, mechanical problem with the plane. We're thinking
we landed, we get up. I'm like, even take off yet, No,

(54:12):
we ain't even took off.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Then we get off.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
We a girl recognizes me as we're like walking off, She's.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Like, I love Housewives.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
I'm like, oh, thinks we go sit on the chairs.
We fall asleep, almost missed our flight. The girl that
watched Housewives came over and touched us and she was like,
don't miss.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Yeah, I thank God for God.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Can you imagine if I had to call like bra
and be like me and my man fell asleep in
here again. So the moral of the story is where
we sleep together?

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Well, yeah, together at the airport. So you guys, do
you live together now?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
We stayed and he stays with me along.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Okay, Yeah, you know I was watching what show was it?
Maybe it was Real Housewives where it was no, no, no,
it was Married to Medicine where they had to figure
out who was going to move into whose house? Because
that's awesome a thing, right, because like, sometimes men don't
want to move into your house, but you might love
your house and be like, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I think Whoever's house is the biggest, that's where you go.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
We got to do a square footage.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah, Whoever's house is biggest, that's where you go.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
But you wouldn't want to give up your house either.
I would. You would if you If.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
You're gonna buy me a twenty million dollar house, I'm going.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
And that's why they love hate if not that we
can live in my house. Well, I love the fact
that you have so much going on just outside of
being on television. That's a great way to amplify your businesses.
I'm glad that the tequila has launched because I know
they was talking about you on the show. I can't
wait to.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Try you you know, it's funny the people that talk
the most or people that have nothing going on.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Ex Clockett.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
I'm like, I'm so booked and busy and.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
I don't have time to talk about anybody else, right,
I'm trying to figure my own shit out, right.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Like YouTube looking cute, you're good, Like I'm like, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
And then date dot com right now, everybody can go
date dot com. KMA, right, we're gonna get you. So
y'all heard it because Jordan is gonna be on there.
So anybody who's listening if you want to date, but
you already heard the rules, do not waste their time,
all right, And anything else that we need to know about.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
No, I feel like that's it. I think we talked
about my large slight mm hmm, my tequila, Lujo day
dot com. Okay, yeah, all good things. It's all good,
positive things.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Well.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
I started watching the new season because I am an
avid Housewives the entire franchise.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
I don't miss a beat.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
And I just started watching the new season and I'm
so excited to see how everything plays out because the
first I done got through the first episode so far,
but it got me. I'm ready for more. So I
can't wait to see how like everything happens. And I
just want to say that I'm happy for you and
your relationship, and you know, I just want to hear
more good things about it.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I'm watching. He seems like a really nice guy from
what we know, so no, he really is. So he'll
be on this, you know.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
When I say him all the time, I'm like, you know,
if if you weren't my boyfriend, I would still want
to be like I like like you as a person, Like.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
I really like him as a person. I like you
as a human being. Yeah, like I really a good feeling, right.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah, he's just like he's a great person, Like I
don't you know the things he likes. Like the other
day I called him and he was at his parents' house.
He was like, oh, I'm teaching Cora multiplication, like he
was teaching his niece multiplication.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Because kids don't know that no more. I was like,
I love that, right. They don't know cursive, they don't
know how to do long division. They don't you think
you would write your book too, girl?

Speaker 2 (57:23):
If I wrote a book, I would take out I
would take out lives. What book am I writing?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
I don't know your memoir. You could change the names, no.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Because I feel like I don't really like to put
my business out there like that.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
It could be like a Devilwares proud of type of
book that's based on real things the characters.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I feel like, yeah, right now, I don't know. I
feel like it's like people judge you for you know
what I'm saying, your.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Stuff, okay, And I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
I feel like I could judge enough.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
I'm good, Okay, I'm just saying I lasted pipp and
book I would read that. We all would bestseller for sure.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I mean maybe one day you guys can help me
write it.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
You can help me write it. Yeah, no, listen, I'm
telling you right now because I was just thinking he
has his memoir out. But I also feel like as
much as you might think that people would judge you,
people can also relate to you in certain ways and
also hear your side of the story when it comes
to certain things, and why not put it in a
book and profit orpital like tell the truth and if

(58:24):
it's not true, somebody would have to try to see you,
but they can't.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
If it's true, trust me, I only speak the truth.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
So my God she's the vault. We appreciate that well,
thank you so much. Last, so we always love having
you know around. Yeah, you're a good time. So are you. Guys.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
I love meeting you. I love meeting you. Guys are adorable.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
It's lip service.