July 8, 2025 ⢠58 mins
Dancehall star Konshens joins the Lip Service crew for a hilarious and raw convo you won’t forget. He opens up about why broke sex used to hit different, the first time he ever nutted (spoiler: it was a horror story), and the wild Jamaican version of Plan B—Panadol & Pepsi?! đł
The conversation goes deep and left real quick: from learning to trust after trauma, to voyeurism, swingers clubs, toe-sucking myths, and how losing his brother changed everything. Plus, he shares why his wife was the first woman he ever truly loved, and how she accidentally passed all the tests.
And of course, it wouldn’t be Lip Service without a little kink talk, foot debates, and a whole lot of laughs. Press play for the Pool Party energy you didn’t know you needed.
Watch, laugh, and learn—this one’s a ride.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up and slip service, I means, ye.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Maguire, I'm Jeordie dor.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Oh, I'm conscious.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm so happy to have you here in person. Yeah,
we had a good conversation during the pandemic. It was
like four years ago.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I don't about the pandemic, bro, I.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Know what listen. I know we haven't spoken since then,
but that was a crazy time. I was actually where
was I was in Charlotte. I think I remember doing
that interview and being like, we got conscience, all right,
come on, we got to make sure we set this up.
So talk to me about that period of time for you.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Because appreciation. That's the first word that comes up when
when I think about the pandemic, Like you lose stuff
and you realize, Yo, this ship was important, you know
what I mean? People, physical contact, like touching funds, like
being in contact with people. That was a time. And
then I lost a bunch of money too, towards canceled,
(01:00):
you know what I mean. It was a crazy time.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, we didn't know when it was going to end.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We did not.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hey, you know what's funny is we didn't think it
was real at first.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, at first, I was like, you know, what's crazy.
When the pandemic started, I had a trip planned to
go to Jamaica for Fourth of July. I was going
there for the whole week fourth of July, and I
kept thinking like, I don't got to cancel this because
it's gonna be over by that. And it started like
in March.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, I went to Jamaica feeling like it's all right,
and I was stuck there for how long? Four months?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And they were closed.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The border is all that and everything lockdown?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Was it really locked down?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Like you couldn't go to restaurants all that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
You couldn't.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
They had a curfew after that too, because I remember
I actually ended up going there to go to the
University of the West Indies nine pm?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Was it seven it was when I went.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, I think when I went it was earlier than that.
I think it was like seven. Yeah, it was seven
when I went. And like, wherever you were at you
had to stay there.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, if you were were looking at stayed in the studio.
So that was good.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, so you got a lot of work done there.
While you may have lost some money, you also had
a chance to kind of like also not have to
be outside for a period of time, which is unusual
because you've been doing this so long.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
No, I hated that. I don't care because guess what,
being on FaceTime with my kids and you know what
I mean, that was wild.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, because so they weren't with you.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So that's why by myself.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You were by yourself? Yeah the whole time?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Then who was the time?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, that's well that look that made a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah crazy, that's a whole other level to the stress
of it.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
You know, having somebody, having your family or your wife
or any at home.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
It's different from lockdown somewhere else and somewhere alone.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Think about the people who were someplace they wasn't supposed
to be like We're like just say it was somebody
that was like cheating and they were and they got stuck.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
How long you're cheating for it?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Listen? Is nothing like I got to get out of here.
I remember when nine to eleven happened in New York
and I had a date the night before, not like
it was, and then that happened in the morning, and
I was so glad that they didn't go well because
I was like, imagine he had have been stuck in
my house.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So irritated what was meant to be? Exactly what? All right?
So the new album is our congratulations. I feel like
you had a shot.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
He does not need a shot. Stop trying to start trouble, Angela.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yo, let me apologize to the viewers and advance. If
I'm talking slow and if I seemed to be a
little bit more junk than I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You're celebrated.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
There he overdid it.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I undated on myself too.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I came here halfway and they we gotta go forward.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We did an episode prior to you being here, so
we're halfway right along with.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's not just you. We never alone Let's go. But
the way the album starts just you saying this is
like a rebirth. What is the rebirth? And why the
need for it?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I think damn you went heavy at the start. So
how I got started in music was basically my older brother.
He was like, yo, ma could be artists. I'm like,
all right, cool, let's be artists. So he passed away.
He commented suicide in twenty sixteen, which happened to be
the biggest year of my career, so it kind of
(04:33):
shook me up for till now, it's still going on,
you know what I mean. So I feel like I
mentally I checked out, you know what I mean. But nowadays,
well in this year and maybe the latter part I
last year, I feel like I'm re energized, you know
what I mean. I won't say I'm over it. I
(04:55):
won't say it every time I control, but I feel
like I'm in the best space that I've been since
that time.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's that's a really hard thing. Like you said, you'll
never get over that, but it's something that you've learned
to cope with and deal with.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And that's the most important thing for people go into
anything like that to accept that, Yo, you won't ever
get over it, right, So that's the first thing you
need to accept. Figure out home Every day is going
to be moving forward.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Because sometimes you think like what could I have done differently?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But knowing that that was a whole phase, yeah, yeah,
that was a whole phase.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, But knowing that, like what happened is nothing that
you could have prevented, you know, is But that's a
hard thing. I remember our conversation that we had always
kind of stuck with me too, because you talked about
so many things about like trust and how hard it's
been for you to even feel like even being married,
like this person loves me and to be able to
(05:52):
accept that. Yeah, and so knowing all of these things,
like you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I don't think that was a result of what I
went through with my brother. I feel like that is
your result of me being an artist and my experiences
in life.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, because you've seen a lot, and you don't get
a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
The cipher if someone is really there for you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Exactly is a lot. Hell yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, but you know, imagine how that fox with you though,
Like if you messed with a chicken, you know, she
got a husband, she got whatever, and make you feel
like how can I talk anybody? How did you find
yourself in those situations?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Like like did you go like were you the one
hitting on them or were they hitting on you?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Like how did that come into reality?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I still don't know how to pick up a girl really, No,
I've never been in a position where I have to
be like yo, spit game and date and I don't
know what that is.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like aim is that you have no game?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Maybe I don't know, So I wouldn't say I don't know,
I don't know all for answer I question stand there.
I'm just always in that spot right place, right and
when when you're in a spot where like you see
what women are capable of and you know ma tello,
(07:22):
girls say yo, don't for come on tonight, don't forget
on this week, and she like pick an argument with
him and yeah, so like for me, you know, in
love and like my my thing, and I just know
I like her, I'm in love. It's kind of a
mindful for me.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
How did you even say, Okay, I'm gonna get married then,
you know, being that you went through all of that
because it's not something you have to do, it's a
choice you make. Still, she then one, how do you know?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I just knew it? She proved it. Yeah you want
to hear how yes, I don't know she proved it though,
like yes, like I feel like she stood. She went
through the childs that that it took to be with me,
(08:13):
and she forced me to understand that somebody could spoke
about this, could really love you and not really want nothing,
because that was the spot that I was in. Everybody
can't them and be like yeah, all right, what do
you want? And that become the norm to me, so
it was a challenge.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Did you test her?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
No? I feel like indirectly, I wasn't testing her. What
I tested her?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Did she put you through anything?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yeah? Because that was my first time being in love
with anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Wow, that's crazy. He was doing all of this but
never like being in love. But you probably left a
lot of broken hearts.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Along the way unintentionally. But I've never been a player though.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That what they would say.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
The girl so I'm drinking enough to be honest, like, yo, No,
I've never been a player. I've always been directed me
like yo, this is what it is.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, let's talk about one of the songs on the album,
rich Sex.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Why you would pick that song.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
With Eric Bellinger? We love it. You guys have worked together,
you know his project too, always having like a good,
good vibe together. So tell us what exactly is rich Sex?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
If you listen to his chorus, he kind of explained it.
He's like like high life and just being sexy. Mm hm,
you know what I mean. He details about head in
the back of the rolls, that type of vibe and
the girl she asked that she wanted to bossing, and
(09:57):
you know what I mean, so it's like living the
best life and and sexy with it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
What about for you? What is rich sex like? When?
When is the first time you experienced it? Were you like,
this is what rich sex is?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I never thought about that, but if you think better now.
First the first line of my verse, I'm like, I
used to funk better when I used to be broke.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
See that's a fact. Clear trappings here. Come on, girl,
come have a seat.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Come on, you're cute.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Are cute girl? You think you had sex better better
when you were broke?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I don't. I don't think you know.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, what's the difference. He needed a place to say
for your life?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I can say, yeah, you got you're thinking about how
to beat this up. That's all you think about.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I have no responsibilities, nothing.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I don't know what conversations I just got.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Talking about rich sex versus broke sex. He said that
he was better when he was broke.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
That long time.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You haven't been broken a long long time. Yeah, so
that was a long time ago that you So you
haven't really hit your stride again.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
No, she get it out of me.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
She's like, we need to lose everything so we know.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
She's not like that she don't we need to lose it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
What do you think about that, ladies, because you know
that is a real thing. People say that guys are
better in bed when you know, what do they call that?
Hobo sexual?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like when you see a broken hitting on you like, you.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Know, amazing?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, you think about it.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I think that guys that I always thought. Yeah, I've
never realized that it's true. I never thought about it.
But now that I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, on the floor like floor sex, it's different.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
No, I've never been mattress on the floor. I've been.
I've been.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
That's what they got to do it good.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And pussy like, look, can I stay here to sexual?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
They fucking for a place to stay.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
That's crazy niggas that they need?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Why mattress comfortable? I've got good snacks.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
But if you think about it, guys that are like
to successful and have too much going on, they probably
don't feel like they got to make too much of
an effort.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Like I don't feel like that. I don't feel like that.
I feel like you still need to make it an experience,
but you'll find different ways to make it an experience
than being in the pussy for an hour.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You know what I mean, Like broke niggas be in
the pussy for two hours and ship I can tell
you is there like thirteen minutes, I'm thinking about so
much shit.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Oh that's awful. After thirty minutes, I would think the
luxury of having money is that you can do it
for an hour, because.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, you want to keep that though, so you're thinking
about the next move.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
You think what about for women? You think, think about
being broke and then think about having money. Doesn't matter
how you are in bed for women.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
No, I think a man could teach you some things.
What you mean like, doesn't matter how you are.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Mad, you know, I mean like as far as being
broke or not mine, because.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Now I don't matter. A woman could be broke or
have money. It don't matter. Niggas don't care.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I don't think they care.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
But on a personal level, really, I feel like when
I was going through the struggle, my pussy wasn't what
because I was too worried about getting some money.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I was trying to exactly you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Unless it was going to help my situation, he ain't
going to help, And it's not getting what you feel
your to figure out how.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
You know when life started.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It's Niagara faults.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Let's get it baby exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You said, niggas don't care.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
That's that's the fact.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
No, niggas don't be caring.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
I feel like niggas don't care if a bitch got
money or not.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
No, okay, we're talking about two different things.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
If the pussy is good or not.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
It's what you were saying. Well, I haven't been around,
but there's been bad pussy women. Not much bad pussy,
but just the effort and the energy that you give off,
Like you.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Can't be laying there starfish and magine you can't be
like super quiet like women. Right, can't even imagine a
woman not really saying nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I can I can't imagine that.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
No, that just means there's a problem with your men.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I should wake you up. You can't. You can't be
quiet with me.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
But wake up.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
On mute as wild.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But okay, so now you you brought up something else
though you talked about men don't care if women have
money or not.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Is that true? Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Okay, I don't think they care.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
But that's not Listen, there's like two sides of that
ship because you asked earlier like if I tested my wife,
and I'm like, I didn't test her, but she was tested.
A big part of it was she wasn't about trying
to get nothing from me, and then she got to
the point where my money is hers. Okay, so you
(15:26):
see if I think most women know it is like
I'm watching the social media version of dating, and all
people look on things where it's like you need to
do this, RLS this or do this. I'll tell you ladies,
right now, Niggas is laughing at that. Niggas is laughing
at that because you're like, you're you're making yourself like
(15:48):
I watch here like a watch like a commodity, Like
I'll do it just to be like I can do it,
but I don't really care about you.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know what I'm saying that I think it's important
to be with some that helps take you to another Levelstely,
And maybe that's not necessarily like she's got money or hit,
but maybe it's more like, you know, just kind of
being supportive to whatever you have going on, figuring out
solutions for you resources, you know, resources, if you ain't
got it like that right now, we grinded it out
(16:18):
together until it can happen. That's I think more important
than anything. I don't like people with no ambition. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, Like, if you're really ambitious
but you're not there yet, that's fine with me. But
if you just wake up every day and all you
want to do is like chill shit, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I think you're talking about it from the side where
you already got your back, But I'm talking about it
from the side of where girls you're seeing a money
I see money and be like, all right, this is
this is what my standard is. If I'm with you,
then you need to do this, this, and this. You're
going to get fucked and forgot that. You know.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Now that's a song that's forgot.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Because if it's a man with money, he's definitely gonna
be used to. Bitch is just coming to him wanted ship,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like, wow, people not.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Even just like you fit right into the way his
life already is. It's like, all right, if I want to,
I got to pay this.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But I feel like men also sometimes lead with money
and it'd be there time. Like sometimes men put that
out there first and they're the ones that are trying
to be like, I got this, I could do this
for you. I'm gonna take you here. Oh what you
got going on? Oh you're not doing okay, I got
like men sometimes put themselves in that position and then
you can't be mad.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
If I live in Miami, that's the whole the capital.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Oh my god, that's my capital is like that because
it's corny niggas out there, you know that way.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of men out there to
lead with their money.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
When did you get in the space where your money
was super good?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Okay, all right, we're on that ten eleven year anniversary
of money being.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Amazed because but I don't think it's anywhere near super good.
But I'm all right, yeah you could.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
But you know, you are such an international artist, not.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
All for real, doll like big through up on you
listening to you. Yes, well you are huge.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
You are where you grew up.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
I'm from Staten Island, New York.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
There that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, So that's what I'm saying because like even earlier
for you, starting off like just locally, you had a deal.
I think I saw that it was like in Japan
for distribution. Firson, that's wild. How does that even happen?
Your first album was, Yeah, how does that happen? Because
I don't hear.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Shout out to my big bro rest in Peace Like
that was from the days when we didn't have the
internet on our phones. So but he worked at a
TV station, So I'm like you one day and said
that everybody like people in Japan Bean trying to book
us for the last six months. We had one song, Wow,
so there's regular kids, and we went to do it
(19:17):
like a six week tour of Japan. That is, nobody
even know us in Jamaica yet, but they knew you
in Japan. Yeah, they knew that song in Japan. It
wasn't Crazy the Stars yet, but that song was just
a big song.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So what did you learn from that? Because it had
to be like the catalyst for even more to come,
knowing that you could go to Japan, because think about it, right,
people don't get to that point until way later after, right.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I think that was that was good for me and
it kind of molded the way how I view producing
music to think not just what is going to be
cool for Jamaica locals. Yeah, and the Aspara like the
world really loved this. So when you look up and
lookin like like certain reggae artists that have that global reach.
(20:04):
I started studying, I me, like, what is it that
they do that's different from what we're doing in Jamaica.
So and then with that information, I found like a
nice middle ground to capture both audiences and that definitely
worked out for.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Me and then what happened. Yeah, And also I think
traveling is something that is so educational for people, Like
sometimes we don't do until later, and so when you
can do that, it does like make you a lot
more aware and a lot more cultured. But also just
like like you said, how you create your music, but
(20:39):
even relating to people.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
You know what, I like to see American comments like
sometimes some some shit will be huge in the world,
but Americans just don't know, and maybe like a platform
will post it and people Americans in it comings like
what the fuck is that? Like who is that? That
person that's always amusing to me. Traveling is definitely the
(21:02):
thing Americans.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
We are definitely very like American.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, so I've hired so many Americans that don't have
a passport. Wild Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
No passport in this fact.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, no, you'd be surprised how many people trust me
not only have never left the country, but never even
left their city.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
They've never even thought about it.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Now, let me ask you this, when you went to Japan,
But was it like being there with the women?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Damn, I didn't. I wish you wouldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Is that her story?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I mean, it was so long.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I'm corney. When I went to Japan, I was fucking
with a Jamaican girl that was living in Japan. What
I don't know how Japan and find congirl. But yeah,
the next time I own it was American. She like
had a had a I went. I went there twice.
But her dad was in the military and he was
(22:00):
there and he sucked the Japanese girl and that's how
she she came about and I found her. So I've
really never not a street Japanese Asian, no Asian Asia.
All the mysteries and the stories out I've heard, I
can't confirm. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You say all the mysteries. There's a lot of Chinese Jamaicans.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I've never had one of those either.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Now, when did you leave and move to Miami. How
long ago was that?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Like twelve fifteen years ago?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
What made you do that?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Was it twelve? Let me be twenty sixteen? My brother
passed away. I think I moved like two years before that.
I started moving, and then when he passed away, it
was like fuck it, I just moved.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You were like I am out of here. You know
what out I saw about you? You had a stalker.
Many stalkers there was that was actually talking about it.
She was like talking about how she stalked you, and
she was like upset when you got married and all
this stuff. She did like a whole yeah that reindeer.
(23:13):
Did you special happy powers or something?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Like? What where's you from?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
She? I think, so, yeah, I think she has like
a she's like a journalist or something, and.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Journalist, yeah, was a stalker. She was just saying that
I've had stalker stock.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So tell me some of the you know I was
in I was at Carnival for Saint Thomas, and I'm
not going to say who it was, but there was
an artist who was performing and I was in the
hotel lobby and you know, after the show, we came
back and he came running in by himself, left the
whole band behind, and I was like, is he okay?
He stopped to say hi, And then later on they
told me he had a stalker.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Was there?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, And she came by the hotel earlier looking for him.
That's some scary show. So you have a bunch of stock.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I've had a bunch of them.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
So does it ever get scary? Like, what is it
ever a situation like it's.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
A heavy word scary. No, I don't think it's ever
been scary.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
But it's been annoying to say the least.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, scary would would imply that I feel like I'm
in danger.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I never felt like.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
That somebody was in your room, Like how recently Slim
Thug found that lady sleeping.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
In It's never too close encounters.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Breaking found a fan that was sleeping in his garage.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
He said that he would always see her in the
gym and places like that and broke.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So never any close encounters where you came like face
to face.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
With close being a party and somebody. She would come
up to me like hi and put up her Instagram
and show me that she's been messaging me for like
seven years and show me like seven like send photos
of me from the back and ship.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So she just been following you around the world.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Came home.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You don't.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I remember Angela had a stock pizza.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Oh my god, the lady I had the worst. I've
had a few different terrible situations. It was. It was
more annoying than anything. I actually had to get the
police involved. It was that bad because this person was
sending stuff to my house and then wherever I went,
she would send like all these food deliveries, but it
would be like pay on delivery. So I imagine how
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mad a delivery person is when they're like, yeah I was,
I didn't order it, and then wherever I went, I'll
be at work, I'd be here, I'll be at home,
and then they would be like banging on the door,
the delivery people like pizza. Ay. She was doing it
a lot too, and it took a while. You know
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what sucks about having a stalkers. It takes a while
for you to be able to handle it because when
you go through the police department, like they have to
get all these they have to like pull like to
be able to pull the person's information and do all
of that, like that have to get a warrant and
all that it takes. It took months for me to
and then I found out who it was. And she
was pretending to be a guy too, so like her
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Instagram page was like a white man holding a gun.
You knew who it was? I found out, No, it was, yeah, please.
I finally got her information and when I found it,
it felt like she was like a mentally disturbed girl
or whatever. And I actually hit up her mom on
Facebook because I found her listening because I'm a detective,
my damnself. Once I find something, and I hit up
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her mom on Facebook and I was like, you need
to tell your daughter to stop doing X, Y and Z.
The police are gonna arrest her. And it stopped after that.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, she was It's been deep for me. Deep you
need a movie script for that.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I mean, it was brief, but you know what I'm saying, It's.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Like for me, it's been like pulling up to play
to multi with spots all over the world like d
ms and answering the d ms and you know what
I mean, M sending clothing items, ship.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Clothing items, panties.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Jaws sending jaws.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
You like, look at it, like, okay, these are cute?
Are they like nice draws, drawers, panties.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Jaws, jos. Yeah, there's been some nice jaws.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And you kept them or no, what would you be
doing with that? Do you? You never know? You might
be into that.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
You're right into that cant here, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
If you if you had to say you had a fetish,
what would it be.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I've done so much ship, I don't think. I think
fucking where I'm not supposed to be fucking.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like, that's the one I feel like. I like that.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, No, I like sex and places where you could
possibly get caught, right, Yeah, she's just like right, Yeah,
I like that, Okay, places all right, in places you're
not supposed to.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
What about you, Jordie, if.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
You have to say you had a fetish, well, we know,
minus voyeurism.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I like watching, okay, like a cook.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I've never been in a situation where somebody's that did happen.
I just didn't know it at the time, not like
it was just the windows were open and everything.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
But you haven't two fetishes me about it? Like yeah, yeah, wait,
did you say you like watching too?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, so you've literally watch people have sex in front
of you? Yeah, that's crazy, but somebody else like but not,
but just anybody? Yeah, I know, how does that even happen?
What about you?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Clear?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
If you have to say you had a fetish.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
M I don't know, I don't know what you're freaky.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Has had not realized they're taking a conver to that direction.
And I'm like, damn, whatever you.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Said, damn what about you do?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You know me, Chad spin the wheel?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Whatever the process.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
You guys at your toes I've had, that's crazy. If
people don't like, I'm not I'm not sucking toes. I'm not.
I'm not opposed to it.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
But I've heard girls say I'm not doing this and
I'm not doing that's so much, and they do it.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
They do it.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
I tried it.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You heard y'all say that too, by the way, yeah
so much.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
We heard y'all say, y'all a not eating on the
A lie.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
That's a lie.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But the statistics say otherwise, statistics.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I just don't want Nobody knows. They don't want to know.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Again, nobody has to know between those people. The secret
you never said ever, not even your wife. So well,
it's okay because nobody in here likes it. Anyway, I
think that's something that's overrated. Like people for some reason
think that women love getting their told. Doesn't it feel.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Like I'm never saying like I don't hate it?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Was okay, but it's cool.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
It's not like I'm gonna be like, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You don't get into a Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I'm not gonna do that, but I'm not gonna ask wordy,
yeah exactly, do.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Nothing do anything for you? Like, what is that little tingle?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
There's nothing to write home about.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Get out of here. Do you clean the toes first? Okay,
but you know, one time in the mood, I'm super clean.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
The one time my ex asked me to suck his toes.
I attempted to do it, but it's hard. He really
was just like I was like, no power thing. Yeah,
And I was like no, and he was like why not?
And I was like for what? And he's like because
you never did it? And I'm like, for a reason?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Were they?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I was like.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
So, if it's a fre fresh pity, you might try it.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
No, but I just want to know the circumstances that
people are letting that occur.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
There's a whole lot of things that It's a lot
of things.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Besides the feet.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yes, I will.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I will caress the feed. We could rub our feet
together all night. But I'm not getting in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
So you're rather eat booty and such.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I would rather put my tongue in your booty hole.
You've done that before, absolutely before I put your toe
in my face.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Hoold. This is a part of the shore where you
skip over asking me all of that ship you not?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You do none of that, so we know he's like
I just like my toe sucks.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Ago.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I never remember I'm a married man. I don't want
to be putting my wife business out. There's some business
in Japan.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
What I did before in a Turkey bath house in
the bathhouses.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Weren't you Okay, tell me about but you're you're naked
in Turkey, Oh, the Turkish bath house.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
If I hadn't lose my hairline, I might go to Turkey.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Your hairline is amazing. Congratulations for that. I've never been
I mean, last question, everybody with you. You guys don't have
great hairlines, so congratulations. This is a hairlines squadd This
is the part of the prerequisite if you're on the work.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
We got it.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
All right, So you have no fetishes, Cleo, I guess
not now.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
That I can think of.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
You said you like your man likes or are you
like a submissive? What you consider I.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Feel like you would be submissive?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
And yes, I would consider myself submissive.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yes, because in every other aspect of your life you
might be very like.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
But in bet I'm not.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I listen. You know they say men with a lot
of power also can like to be submissive, and yeah,
you feel like you're submissive at home?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I got a problem, like I can't even I can't
even like I need to fuck to.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Not okay aggressively. Yeah, because of the way you said.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
That I need to fund that. I said, fuck not just.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I think we need another shot. You want to shot?
I just got here. Okay, you're going to do it.
Everybody's doing it because we are celebrating. And you know
what The album is called Pool Party, which as we know,
means that it is a fun time.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yes, that's what it is. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So you feel like right now, the fun is the
fun is what's needed. Even though there are parts of
it that are more introspective.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, you know, I kept those to a minimum because
the concept behind the album was I'm looking at the world.
I'm looking at what's going on. Everything is so serious.
Everything is like wars and ice and natural disaster. I
didn't want ten years from now, fifty you or something.
Now people listen to that those songs and be like
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it takes them back to this moment in time.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
You want them to feel happy.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, because when I think about Galla b Broke, I
feel about people be like you. I remember when I
was in college and our people be like, yo, no hesitation.
I might say that's how I got my kids to
this song or girl gave me some.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
One's memories that I'm yes and.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
To new memories.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
We love that.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
You're right about that. When you think about that's a
great mom.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I'm not going to respond to that.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
That you would you like, people are going to have
baby songs like tight and good That and good Rich
I want to and not fucking Forgot. That's the remix
album with this, She's like, let me taste it with that.
You're right there because those songs. You have songs that
(35:58):
are like for me. Think about classic dance hall. You
have several songs in that, you know, which I think
heavy rotation to this day.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah yeah, And I feel like with the album, that's
what I want, Like I have songs that people be like, yo,
I was vibing too this when I was going through
this struggler, you know what I mean. This reminds me
of what it's hard time that I have and when
people come to me and be like yo, this reminded
me of this great time. It feels a bit of
(36:29):
am a sul like I feel like thinking about the
struggles and thinking about the problems long too long to
stay with you.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And sometimes I feel like maybe you needed that too.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Hell yeah, I needed that for yourself. Hell yeah, I
needed that because like there's so much I went through
and no wan that become who I am.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
That exchange is positive. Energy is always important.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I'm all about energy.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You've also been doing some soca too, which I love
that for you could I love soca also and the
Carnival time.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Listen you see me on doing Carnival like I'm out there.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's so could be
hitting too. I feel like right now is a great
time for all of that too. And you do like
I feel like you've done a lot of afrobeats collapsed.
They love you over there too. You know, people could
really take notes from you, because I feel like a
lot of artists in that space. Everybody is trying to
(37:23):
figure out how to go global. Yeah, you know, is there,
but there's no real blueprint, you think.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
And I don't think I have the blueprint either. I
feel like I didn't start out thinking, Yo, this is
what I'm going to do. I'm going to do this
and then do this and then I'm gonna you know,
I didn't feel like that. I love you the.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Blueprint because you just did it. It wasn't a plan,
it wasn't a structure, It just naturally organically happened. And look,
six months later, y'all didn't even know that they.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Was checking for you'll on Japan.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Hey writing a book? Yeah, you know what I mean,
But I can't take credit for it, and like, I
had to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Have you ever thought of have other artists come to
you for help? Really? Okay? Yeah, I think that's important.
And just also to see like how dance has been
so lit just recently, seeing everybody who couldn't travel before.
People don't understand how important it is to be able
to come places and perform, to see Beanie Man, to
see Vibes Cartel. You know, I'll be going to all
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the shows. Yeah, but really connect with your people, Bounty Killer,
to see everybody that's like able to you know, move
around now. And it's selling out shows. But that's good
for everybody, yes, you know, everybody, because it also makes
businesses understand how marketable.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
And profitable the genre can be. Because wise it's like
Dan Saul was this, it was like a side dish.
Everybody love it, but nobody had it as the main course,
you know what I mean. Like you'll find like a
huge artist be like you all want to tap into
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this audience or whatever, and then call it being in
Mane called Sean Park. But then it's time to appreciate
dancehalls as a main genre. It's never been at that point.
I feel like this is the moment where you know
it's going up. It's at it on a nice trajectory,
and it's just up to the artists and the different
promoters and the fine to like help push it over
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that that that edge word can't be taken down again.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I think you more than anyone, has also done a
ton of collapse too, outside of just your own practices
working with a lot of different artists, Yeah, big and small.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
What's your favorite collab that you've done outside of like
any Jamaican.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Artists outside of Jummi, A kind of artists. Damn, I
would say that. I wouldn't say it's one. I would
say it's anything in the Latin market because those pub
checks look.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
About the money.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean naturally, I'm a fan of every genre.
I wouldn't say everyone. A lot of genres, So I
wouldn't be doing a song just because it's the genre
is popping. I'll be doing a song because I love it,
so I feel free going in. So if the bag
is good, that makes it like icing on the cake.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Capricorn answer, Capricorns, all us over here, amount.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Of money Christmas by January third, January eleven.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
We're supposed to be bestie signs.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Gemini.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
What about Chris Brown though, I mean that was a
moment to the goat.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
He just heard it some I was the album was
with Empire, and GHAZI reached out to him and he
was like, Yo, that's dope, I know it. He did
a verse and sent it back. I don't know who
which one of his friends is Jamaican.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Yeah, eight, Chris, he'd be eating with them, like Global
features and stuff. Because he did something with Maman too.
I was like, he's good.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
What do you mean, christ Chris Brown all Michael Jackson, Chris.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Brown, and Michael Jackson for what though.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Jackson, even Chris Brown would say, Michael Jackson wife.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Michael Jackson is is a different status. It's a different
it's it's just different. He's been doing it since he
was a kids.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Exactly about the Jackson five, Jackson five, he died think.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
About thriller he ever like about the video for Thriller alone, but.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
That was even from the Jackson Fox to his early years.
His just he just ate the whole way.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Through all of that.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Yeah, I know you, but I know he's got My
favorite was Off the Wall and it was made.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
And it was so check it all right. Because I'm
a Chris Brown advocate, You're.
Speaker 6 (42:15):
Supposed to love Chris Brown. But we know that Michael Jackson.
If Michael Jackson is before Chris Brown, that means that
he's basically Chris Brown's father. And Chris Brown knows that.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, he knows like people, Okay, he knows like when
they get to a certain level. Right, it don't matter
how like personally what you feel. You're a product now
and people are free to talk about you, so it
don't matter what you think. But no matter what the
fans think.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Let's argue not even that Michael Jackson is entirely more
universal than.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Chris Brown could ever be.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Thank you, unfortunately, product that that product is gonna sell
more compared I've been for.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
The last sixteen years. Imagine comparing somebody's Bob Marley.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
He's so Michael Jackson.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Want to say this now that we no longer unfortunately,
and it was yesterday that was the anniversary of his Right,
now that we no longer have Michael Jackson, Chris Brown
is what we have. That's as far as performing, as
far as giving it, killing it, just all around entertainer.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Nobody is beating Chris Brown in my.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Eyes, but all could be to go viral and don't ship.
So you saved, That's what would that take. So let's
let's tone it down and dancing Chris Brown, Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Michael Jackson is at the moonwalk, Michael, what else? Michael Jackson,
Michael accident the moonwalk, dancing Michael Jackson. But Michael Jackson,
Michael Jackson when it came to choreography, they always talk
about it too, how it was working with him, and
he's always created his own stuff. And that's what I
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was going to say.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
Not only is his choreography top notch, but Michael Jackson
has his own style of dancing.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah. I think if Chris Brown was sitting here, he
would say, Michael.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Jackson, Michael Jackson knows how to dance like Michael Jackson.
Chris Brown hanging with some Jamaica and he a Jamaican dancer,
(44:52):
Like that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Is a chameleion stands with James Brown.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Reverse on my song I'm a Jamaica on You was
like not the other way. Jim Hunting that nigga was
a Jamaica on myself. Right with that view on whisky,
he's doing that nice jamreal swag. It sounds like American,
but it's not party.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Nobody down his talent at all.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
He is.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
But I think that time periods have to be taken
into consideration too, because it's such a different day and
age musically, how much we can be connected globally as
opposed to what it was like back then. And the
access that people have to be able to do the
music in a different way where you don't have to
be in the studio that's expensive, where you got the
reels and you.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Got to I think, I think, I think I'm in
a spot where I can call it what it is
because I was like, I won't say I was there
for Michael Jackson, but I know enough and I was
there for Chris Brown. It's like the Lebron and MJ convo.
If you were there to see all of that, then
that's who you can. You're in the best position to
(46:02):
give your take.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Can you move walk and say when you go and
look out his social media from him coming to New
York and how he came out dressed earlier.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Listen, he had to change, he was he was.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
A fool party for real. I mean it was hot.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
He sent me back inside real quick. He was he
was looking sweater.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
You know that would be hyped for the summer and
they come out in the shorts and.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Right, it's one of those days in New York City.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
So do you think you're good in bed?
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
You know you didn't have that confident.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I know, I know that was the way he said.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
I how do you know, Like, you know, women fake
orgasms all the time, but every woman except me, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
You're like, pack it up.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
If you don't, I'm gonna turn into.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
How do you know you're good in bed?
Speaker 3 (47:12):
I think I'm more of the build up, Like even
even before I was married, I'm more of a you're
you're so excited about getting there, as like half the
job has already done. You gotta be even if you say,
for instance, you took an uber, you gotta send me
(47:32):
photos in the back of the uber telling you what
to do to yourself, send me a photo. So the
bill is always the anticipation, even before you get there,
you're already there. So maybe I don't know if I'm
good in bed. Maybe it's just.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Like this, yeah, because I feel like you have a
lot to live up to, you know, just because of
your music, people have like may have had expectations.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
I used to live up to it, and my wife
thinks I live up to it now.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Does she tell you like, yeah, hell yeah, that's all.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
You like side. I was like, you know, I don't
have our wife's side.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
So do you talk in bead? Hell ya, it's chatty.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, she's going to be so embarrassed. Why because I
was about to mimic her tone, But.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
I don't do her like that.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Women do that because they want you to hurry up.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
She get loud.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, Angela, sorry, that's like.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
Cheer him on.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
You're doing great, baby. Honestly, that is the quickest way
to speed it up.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Was there ever job you think when you first started having.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
She got to touch what you have with the voyeurs
and things like.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Wat Yeah, wait, are you going to like swingers clubs?
Speaker 3 (48:59):
We've been there, you have?
Speaker 6 (49:02):
Oh my gosh, I was shocked by Now I'm shocked
by the.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Respond but I'm not at the level where she can
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Yeah together, Yeah, yeah, you're just chilling out watching see
now that now that's that's the first thing.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
That's the song. Yeah, it's going to get me to
write a song so.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Bad ideas want to be an inspiration, the services, educational inspiration, inspiration.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
You guys.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Right, yes, blood, So you've been the swingers clause? That's wow?
What if have people recognized you ever? They have? Yeah, okay, taken.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
And they would have put him think about.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
It and do all of that. But there's certain things
you just won't do. That's interesting, it is right, very
What about squirting? You remember the first time you got
squared it.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
On so years ago?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Was you surprised?
Speaker 3 (50:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Did you know what it was?
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (50:13):
Did you know what it was?
Speaker 3 (50:15):
So many times before?
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Actually, so like wait what.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
I sucked a lot of times before I actually nudded why.
I don't know, I just couldn't not really. I started
super early, though. Listen, I've been fucking from fucking before.
I've been fucking before. I knew there was a hole
in the pussy. I thought it was like the front,
minds the front, Yeah, it's the front like google do yeah,
(50:43):
Google Google?
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Like hunching, like just.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
What it is? Grinding yeah, so no insertion, no insertion.
So when I realized that there was something else, act,
oh wow.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
That's like how I learned.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
When did you start having say, ridiculously early.
Speaker 6 (51:03):
Age sounds ridiculously Yeah, that is early.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
I think the first time I not was that was
a horror movie too. First time I note was the
tenth grade. Eleventh grade. Yeah, and I was like hunching
or grinding from like the eighth grade.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Okay, terrible, yeah, because you weren't actually having sex.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yeah, I'm like, you know what you was doing. It's
like the Amish people you were talking about last time,
the Mormons.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
The Mormons. Yeah, So when you were the first time
you ever ejaculated.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Horror movie?
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Why was it a horror movie?
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Because I was fucking this girl right and it was
the first time I'm experiencing coming and I was wearing
a condom and I nodded, and I'm like, what the
fuck is this macomb?
Speaker 6 (52:12):
You didn't know what it was?
Speaker 3 (52:13):
No, it was his first time because I've been working
for like two years, and but.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
You never had a wet dream or nothing before that,
or like mastiveated. Okay, but then you came about you
never you were never.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Master giving a funk about what they're teaching me and school.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
About whatever helps.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
You came in the condom and then what you came
in the condom?
Speaker 3 (52:34):
Yeah, And I pulled out and there was no condom.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
It slid off in her because you didn't know to
hold it and pull it out.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
I was supposed to hold on. It was like it
was in in like you go in there and get
it hell yeah, spread her out.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Oh my gosh, you get got it out.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
But when I got it out, of ship was empty hole.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
So prevacy scared you.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, listen. I went to my boy when I'm a dog,
and he was like, I was like, what what do?
Speaker 2 (53:11):
What do I do?
Speaker 3 (53:12):
I think I was like fourteen and he was like seventeen,
but he was big homie at the time, and he
was like, Yo, bro, give our I'm pepsy. I'm like,
what a plan? B? I'm pepsy. I'm like, yo, pa talent? Oh,
(53:32):
like yo, give her a pis went back to her,
gave her Panada. I'm pepsy, and.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
I was just worried about Jamaican plan B. Yeah, blood,
I think she wasn't ovulating.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yeah she did know what ovulating was.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
You don't now, but good thing.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yeah. So that was my first nut harbor.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Well, oh my good.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
After that, you made sure that condom came out every time.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
You didn't know how to put a kindom on proper. M. Wow.
That's funny though, because they do. He was he was
what he wanted to lie.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
I wasn't there. I was playing ball. I didn't even
talk about none of that.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
What did you think he would What did you think
you would have did if you didn't do music?
Speaker 3 (54:17):
I don't know. There was a lot of things before music,
Like I was in the streets a little bit hustling.
I was doing like a real job, several.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Jobs, Like what type of jobs?
Speaker 3 (54:28):
I was a shoe salesman at once.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Okay, we like to shoes.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
Yeah, and the girls were my main clients for sure.
I would compliment, and then he was complimenting. I never
got that far ever.
Speaker 4 (54:48):
Are you Are you able to guess women's shoe size
is easily because you sold shoes?
Speaker 3 (54:52):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Should we test this theory?
Speaker 3 (54:55):
All right?
Speaker 1 (54:59):
Don't eat the bottom? Mm hmm, you have small feet?
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna eight and a half.
Speaker 6 (55:07):
That's a good guest beside you. Eight the hanf Okay,
that is close, but is kind of.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Like the average, right, I think this is this is
bigger than your size though.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah, it's a little big on me. Yeah I had
to I had to get that. Yeah, but these are eight.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
Yeah, what is bigger than you? Though?
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah it's a little big.
Speaker 6 (55:29):
What about me? You can't talk with you? Will?
Speaker 3 (55:42):
It's bulky? Right?
Speaker 6 (55:43):
Check me?
Speaker 1 (55:50):
We all have yeah boom, yeah, I used to do that.
Speaker 6 (55:55):
Well.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Listen, I just want to say congratulations to you man
pool party, sir, and we need that for the summer.
I'm not going to do you. But you know, to say,
aside from all the time, I am a big fan
of yours, so I'm really excited always to you know
that we had a chance to talk during the pandemic.
But it's so happy that you got to come up
here in person and say but doesn't have a good time.
(56:17):
And I do think your conversation is so fun Thank you.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
And I'm glad you did. Asked me about eating ass
and no, no.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
No, we would never. I know that even if you
do it, you're not going to say so you know
what I'm saying, It's like not the conversation respect. No
com come into your beard and tells healthy it is healthy.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
Your stream pool party.
Speaker 3 (56:40):
Poor party at the tour, a poor party tour coming
and the poor party merch all the bikinis. Yeah okay
we're coming out.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Because he could dress to so you know the merch
is going to be amazing.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, the bikinis. No bikinna for money,
doing no money, said that, I make sure this is
lip service. I don't know know you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
It's so funny to me that you are so open
about swinging parties and all this other stuff. But then
you do all the line at what ladies, not that,
not that.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
And everything else.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
So anyway, but again, thank you so much for coming through.
We always have a you know, a good, great conversation,
and I'm happy that this album is out and that
you feel like you know, I know it started off
kind of deep, and we started the conversation kind of deep.
But I understand now talking to exactly what you mean
about like this time period things can be really heavy,
but you want people to go back and listen to
(57:43):
this album you know, later and be like, great, let's
have a let's have a vibe.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Yeah, hopefully you have a ten year old and you're like, yo,
this song made me meet my wife in a party,
and that's how my ten year old.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yes, indeed, all right, thank you, thank you so much.
We appreciate you, Lim serving
What's up and slip service, I means, ye.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Maguire, I'm Jeordie dor.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Oh, I'm conscious.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm so happy to have you here in person. Yeah,
we had a good conversation during the pandemic. It was
like four years ago.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I don't about the pandemic, bro, I.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Know what listen. I know we haven't spoken since then,
but that was a crazy time. I was actually where
was I was in Charlotte. I think I remember doing
that interview and being like, we got conscience, all right,
come on, we got to make sure we set this up.
So talk to me about that period of time for you.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Because appreciation. That's the first word that comes up when
when I think about the pandemic, Like you lose stuff
and you realize, Yo, this ship was important, you know
what I mean? People, physical contact, like touching funds, like
being in contact with people. That was a time. And
then I lost a bunch of money too, towards canceled,
(01:00):
you know what I mean. It was a crazy time.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, we didn't know when it was going to end.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We did not.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hey, you know what's funny is we didn't think it
was real at first.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, at first, I was like, you know, what's crazy.
When the pandemic started, I had a trip planned to
go to Jamaica for Fourth of July. I was going
there for the whole week fourth of July, and I
kept thinking like, I don't got to cancel this because
it's gonna be over by that. And it started like
in March.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, I went to Jamaica feeling like it's all right,
and I was stuck there for how long? Four months?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And they were closed.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The border is all that and everything lockdown?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Was it really locked down?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Like you couldn't go to restaurants all that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
You couldn't.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
They had a curfew after that too, because I remember
I actually ended up going there to go to the
University of the West Indies nine pm?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Was it seven it was when I went.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, I think when I went it was earlier than that.
I think it was like seven. Yeah, it was seven
when I went. And like, wherever you were at you
had to stay there.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, if you were were looking at stayed in the studio.
So that was good.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, so you got a lot of work done there.
While you may have lost some money, you also had
a chance to kind of like also not have to
be outside for a period of time, which is unusual
because you've been doing this so long.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
No, I hated that. I don't care because guess what,
being on FaceTime with my kids and you know what
I mean, that was wild.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, because so they weren't with you.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So that's why by myself.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You were by yourself? Yeah the whole time?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Then who was the time?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, that's well that look that made a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah crazy, that's a whole other level to the stress
of it.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
You know, having somebody, having your family or your wife
or any at home.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
It's different from lockdown somewhere else and somewhere alone.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Think about the people who were someplace they wasn't supposed
to be like We're like just say it was somebody
that was like cheating and they were and they got stuck.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
How long you're cheating for it?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Listen? Is nothing like I got to get out of here.
I remember when nine to eleven happened in New York
and I had a date the night before, not like
it was, and then that happened in the morning, and
I was so glad that they didn't go well because
I was like, imagine he had have been stuck in
my house.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So irritated what was meant to be? Exactly what? All right?
So the new album is our congratulations. I feel like
you had a shot.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
He does not need a shot. Stop trying to start trouble, Angela.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yo, let me apologize to the viewers and advance. If
I'm talking slow and if I seemed to be a
little bit more junk than I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You're celebrated.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
There he overdid it.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I undated on myself too.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I came here halfway and they we gotta go forward.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We did an episode prior to you being here, so
we're halfway right along with.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's not just you. We never alone Let's go. But
the way the album starts just you saying this is
like a rebirth. What is the rebirth? And why the
need for it?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I think damn you went heavy at the start. So
how I got started in music was basically my older brother.
He was like, yo, ma could be artists. I'm like,
all right, cool, let's be artists. So he passed away.
He commented suicide in twenty sixteen, which happened to be
the biggest year of my career, so it kind of
(04:33):
shook me up for till now, it's still going on,
you know what I mean. So I feel like I
mentally I checked out, you know what I mean. But nowadays,
well in this year and maybe the latter part I
last year, I feel like I'm re energized, you know
what I mean. I won't say I'm over it. I
(04:55):
won't say it every time I control, but I feel
like I'm in the best space that I've been since
that time.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's that's a really hard thing. Like you said, you'll
never get over that, but it's something that you've learned
to cope with and deal with.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And that's the most important thing for people go into
anything like that to accept that, Yo, you won't ever
get over it, right, So that's the first thing you
need to accept. Figure out home Every day is going
to be moving forward.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Because sometimes you think like what could I have done differently?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But knowing that that was a whole phase, yeah, yeah,
that was a whole phase.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, But knowing that, like what happened is nothing that
you could have prevented, you know, is But that's a
hard thing. I remember our conversation that we had always
kind of stuck with me too, because you talked about
so many things about like trust and how hard it's
been for you to even feel like even being married,
like this person loves me and to be able to
(05:52):
accept that. Yeah, and so knowing all of these things,
like you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I don't think that was a result of what I
went through with my brother. I feel like that is
your result of me being an artist and my experiences
in life.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, because you've seen a lot, and you don't get
a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
The cipher if someone is really there for you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Exactly is a lot. Hell yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, but you know, imagine how that fox with you though,
Like if you messed with a chicken, you know, she
got a husband, she got whatever, and make you feel
like how can I talk anybody? How did you find
yourself in those situations?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Like like did you go like were you the one
hitting on them or were they hitting on you?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Like how did that come into reality?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I still don't know how to pick up a girl really, No,
I've never been in a position where I have to
be like yo, spit game and date and I don't
know what that is.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like aim is that you have no game?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Maybe I don't know, So I wouldn't say I don't know,
I don't know all for answer I question stand there.
I'm just always in that spot right place, right and
when when you're in a spot where like you see
what women are capable of and you know ma tello,
(07:22):
girls say yo, don't for come on tonight, don't forget
on this week, and she like pick an argument with
him and yeah, so like for me, you know, in
love and like my my thing, and I just know
I like her, I'm in love. It's kind of a
mindful for me.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
How did you even say, Okay, I'm gonna get married then,
you know, being that you went through all of that
because it's not something you have to do, it's a
choice you make. Still, she then one, how do you know?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I just knew it? She proved it. Yeah you want
to hear how yes, I don't know she proved it though,
like yes, like I feel like she stood. She went
through the childs that that it took to be with me,
(08:13):
and she forced me to understand that somebody could spoke
about this, could really love you and not really want nothing,
because that was the spot that I was in. Everybody
can't them and be like yeah, all right, what do
you want? And that become the norm to me, so
it was a challenge.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Did you test her?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
No? I feel like indirectly, I wasn't testing her. What
I tested her?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Did she put you through anything?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yeah? Because that was my first time being in love
with anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Wow, that's crazy. He was doing all of this but
never like being in love. But you probably left a
lot of broken hearts.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Along the way unintentionally. But I've never been a player though.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That what they would say.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
The girl so I'm drinking enough to be honest, like, yo, No,
I've never been a player. I've always been directed me
like yo, this is what it is.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, let's talk about one of the songs on the album,
rich Sex.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Why you would pick that song.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
With Eric Bellinger? We love it. You guys have worked together,
you know his project too, always having like a good,
good vibe together. So tell us what exactly is rich Sex?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
If you listen to his chorus, he kind of explained it.
He's like like high life and just being sexy. Mm hm,
you know what I mean. He details about head in
the back of the rolls, that type of vibe and
the girl she asked that she wanted to bossing, and
(09:57):
you know what I mean, so it's like living the
best life and and sexy with it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
What about for you? What is rich sex like? When?
When is the first time you experienced it? Were you like,
this is what rich sex is?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I never thought about that, but if you think better now.
First the first line of my verse, I'm like, I
used to funk better when I used to be broke.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
See that's a fact. Clear trappings here. Come on, girl,
come have a seat.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Come on, you're cute.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Are cute girl? You think you had sex better better
when you were broke?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I don't. I don't think you know.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, what's the difference. He needed a place to say
for your life?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I can say, yeah, you got you're thinking about how
to beat this up. That's all you think about.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I have no responsibilities, nothing.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I don't know what conversations I just got.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Talking about rich sex versus broke sex. He said that
he was better when he was broke.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
That long time.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You haven't been broken a long long time. Yeah, so
that was a long time ago that you So you
haven't really hit your stride again.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
No, she get it out of me.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
She's like, we need to lose everything so we know.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
She's not like that she don't we need to lose it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
What do you think about that, ladies, because you know
that is a real thing. People say that guys are
better in bed when you know, what do they call that?
Hobo sexual?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like when you see a broken hitting on you like, you.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Know, amazing?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, you think about it.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I think that guys that I always thought. Yeah, I've
never realized that it's true. I never thought about it.
But now that I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, on the floor like floor sex, it's different.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
No, I've never been mattress on the floor. I've been.
I've been.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
That's what they got to do it good.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And pussy like, look, can I stay here to sexual?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
They fucking for a place to stay.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
That's crazy niggas that they need?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Why mattress comfortable? I've got good snacks.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
But if you think about it, guys that are like
to successful and have too much going on, they probably
don't feel like they got to make too much of
an effort.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Like I don't feel like that. I don't feel like that.
I feel like you still need to make it an experience,
but you'll find different ways to make it an experience
than being in the pussy for an hour.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You know what I mean, Like broke niggas be in
the pussy for two hours and ship I can tell
you is there like thirteen minutes, I'm thinking about so
much shit.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Oh that's awful. After thirty minutes, I would think the
luxury of having money is that you can do it
for an hour, because.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, you want to keep that though, so you're thinking
about the next move.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
You think what about for women? You think, think about
being broke and then think about having money. Doesn't matter
how you are in bed for women.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
No, I think a man could teach you some things.
What you mean like, doesn't matter how you are.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Mad, you know, I mean like as far as being
broke or not mine, because.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Now I don't matter. A woman could be broke or
have money. It don't matter. Niggas don't care.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I don't think they care.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
But on a personal level, really, I feel like when
I was going through the struggle, my pussy wasn't what
because I was too worried about getting some money.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I was trying to exactly you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Unless it was going to help my situation, he ain't
going to help, And it's not getting what you feel
your to figure out how.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
You know when life started.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It's Niagara faults.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Let's get it baby exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You said, niggas don't care.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
That's that's the fact.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
No, niggas don't be caring.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
I feel like niggas don't care if a bitch got
money or not.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
No, okay, we're talking about two different things.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
If the pussy is good or not.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
It's what you were saying. Well, I haven't been around,
but there's been bad pussy women. Not much bad pussy,
but just the effort and the energy that you give off,
Like you.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Can't be laying there starfish and magine you can't be
like super quiet like women. Right, can't even imagine a
woman not really saying nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I can I can't imagine that.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
No, that just means there's a problem with your men.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I should wake you up. You can't. You can't be
quiet with me.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
But wake up.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
On mute as wild.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But okay, so now you you brought up something else
though you talked about men don't care if women have
money or not.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Is that true? Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Okay, I don't think they care.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
But that's not Listen, there's like two sides of that
ship because you asked earlier like if I tested my wife,
and I'm like, I didn't test her, but she was tested.
A big part of it was she wasn't about trying
to get nothing from me, and then she got to
the point where my money is hers. Okay, so you
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see if I think most women know it is like
I'm watching the social media version of dating, and all
people look on things where it's like you need to
do this, RLS this or do this. I'll tell you ladies,
right now, Niggas is laughing at that. Niggas is laughing
at that because you're like, you're you're making yourself like
(15:48):
I watch here like a watch like a commodity, Like
I'll do it just to be like I can do it,
but I don't really care about you.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know what I'm saying that I think it's important
to be with some that helps take you to another Levelstely,
And maybe that's not necessarily like she's got money or hit,
but maybe it's more like, you know, just kind of
being supportive to whatever you have going on, figuring out
solutions for you resources, you know, resources, if you ain't
got it like that right now, we grinded it out
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together until it can happen. That's I think more important
than anything. I don't like people with no ambition. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, Like, if you're really ambitious
but you're not there yet, that's fine with me. But
if you just wake up every day and all you
want to do is like chill shit, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I think you're talking about it from the side where
you already got your back, But I'm talking about it
from the side of where girls you're seeing a money
I see money and be like, all right, this is
this is what my standard is. If I'm with you,
then you need to do this, this, and this. You're
going to get fucked and forgot that. You know.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Now that's a song that's forgot.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Because if it's a man with money, he's definitely gonna
be used to. Bitch is just coming to him wanted ship,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like, wow, people not.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Even just like you fit right into the way his
life already is. It's like, all right, if I want to,
I got to pay this.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But I feel like men also sometimes lead with money
and it'd be there time. Like sometimes men put that
out there first and they're the ones that are trying
to be like, I got this, I could do this
for you. I'm gonna take you here. Oh what you
got going on? Oh you're not doing okay, I got
like men sometimes put themselves in that position and then
you can't be mad.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
If I live in Miami, that's the whole the capital.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Oh my god, that's my capital is like that because
it's corny niggas out there, you know that way.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of men out there to
lead with their money.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
When did you get in the space where your money
was super good?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Okay, all right, we're on that ten eleven year anniversary
of money being.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Amazed because but I don't think it's anywhere near super good.
But I'm all right, yeah you could.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
But you know, you are such an international artist, not.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
All for real, doll like big through up on you
listening to you. Yes, well you are huge.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
You are where you grew up.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
I'm from Staten Island, New York.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
There that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, So that's what I'm saying because like even earlier
for you, starting off like just locally, you had a deal.
I think I saw that it was like in Japan
for distribution. Firson, that's wild. How does that even happen?
Your first album was, Yeah, how does that happen? Because
I don't hear.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Shout out to my big bro rest in Peace Like
that was from the days when we didn't have the
internet on our phones. So but he worked at a
TV station, So I'm like you one day and said
that everybody like people in Japan Bean trying to book
us for the last six months. We had one song, Wow,
so there's regular kids, and we went to do it
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like a six week tour of Japan. That is, nobody
even know us in Jamaica yet, but they knew you
in Japan. Yeah, they knew that song in Japan. It
wasn't Crazy the Stars yet, but that song was just
a big song.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So what did you learn from that? Because it had
to be like the catalyst for even more to come,
knowing that you could go to Japan, because think about it, right,
people don't get to that point until way later after, right.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I think that was that was good for me and
it kind of molded the way how I view producing
music to think not just what is going to be
cool for Jamaica locals. Yeah, and the Aspara like the
world really loved this. So when you look up and
lookin like like certain reggae artists that have that global reach.
(20:04):
I started studying, I me, like, what is it that
they do that's different from what we're doing in Jamaica.
So and then with that information, I found like a
nice middle ground to capture both audiences and that definitely
worked out for.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Me and then what happened. Yeah, And also I think
traveling is something that is so educational for people, Like
sometimes we don't do until later, and so when you
can do that, it does like make you a lot
more aware and a lot more cultured. But also just
like like you said, how you create your music, but
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even relating to people.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
You know what, I like to see American comments like
sometimes some some shit will be huge in the world,
but Americans just don't know, and maybe like a platform
will post it and people Americans in it comings like
what the fuck is that? Like who is that? That
person that's always amusing to me. Traveling is definitely the
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thing Americans.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
We are definitely very like American.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, so I've hired so many Americans that don't have
a passport. Wild Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
No passport in this fact.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, no, you'd be surprised how many people trust me
not only have never left the country, but never even
left their city.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
They've never even thought about it.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Now, let me ask you this, when you went to Japan,
But was it like being there with the women?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Damn, I didn't. I wish you wouldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Is that her story?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I mean, it was so long.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I'm corney. When I went to Japan, I was fucking
with a Jamaican girl that was living in Japan. What
I don't know how Japan and find congirl. But yeah,
the next time I own it was American. She like
had a had a I went. I went there twice.
But her dad was in the military and he was
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there and he sucked the Japanese girl and that's how
she she came about and I found her. So I've
really never not a street Japanese Asian, no Asian Asia.
All the mysteries and the stories out I've heard, I
can't confirm. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You say all the mysteries. There's a lot of Chinese Jamaicans.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I've never had one of those either.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Now, when did you leave and move to Miami. How
long ago was that?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Like twelve fifteen years ago?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
What made you do that?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Was it twelve? Let me be twenty sixteen? My brother
passed away. I think I moved like two years before that.
I started moving, and then when he passed away, it
was like fuck it, I just moved.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You were like I am out of here. You know
what out I saw about you? You had a stalker.
Many stalkers there was that was actually talking about it.
She was like talking about how she stalked you, and
she was like upset when you got married and all
this stuff. She did like a whole yeah that reindeer.
(23:13):
Did you special happy powers or something?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Like? What where's you from?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
She? I think, so, yeah, I think she has like
a she's like a journalist or something, and.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Journalist, yeah, was a stalker. She was just saying that
I've had stalker stock.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So tell me some of the you know I was
in I was at Carnival for Saint Thomas, and I'm
not going to say who it was, but there was
an artist who was performing and I was in the
hotel lobby and you know, after the show, we came
back and he came running in by himself, left the
whole band behind, and I was like, is he okay?
He stopped to say hi, And then later on they
told me he had a stalker.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Was there?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, And she came by the hotel earlier looking for him.
That's some scary show. So you have a bunch of stock.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I've had a bunch of them.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
So does it ever get scary? Like, what is it
ever a situation like it's.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
A heavy word scary. No, I don't think it's ever
been scary.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
But it's been annoying to say the least.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, scary would would imply that I feel like I'm
in danger.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I never felt like.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
That somebody was in your room, Like how recently Slim
Thug found that lady sleeping.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
In It's never too close encounters.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Breaking found a fan that was sleeping in his garage.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
He said that he would always see her in the
gym and places like that and broke.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So never any close encounters where you came like face
to face.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
With close being a party and somebody. She would come
up to me like hi and put up her Instagram
and show me that she's been messaging me for like
seven years and show me like seven like send photos
of me from the back and ship.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So she just been following you around the world.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Came home.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You don't.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I remember Angela had a stock pizza.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Oh my god, the lady I had the worst. I've
had a few different terrible situations. It was. It was
more annoying than anything. I actually had to get the
police involved. It was that bad because this person was
sending stuff to my house and then wherever I went,
she would send like all these food deliveries, but it
would be like pay on delivery. So I imagine how
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mad a delivery person is when they're like, yeah I was,
I didn't order it, and then wherever I went, I'll
be at work, I'd be here, I'll be at home,
and then they would be like banging on the door,
the delivery people like pizza. Ay. She was doing it
a lot too, and it took a while. You know
(25:57):
what sucks about having a stalkers. It takes a while
for you to be able to handle it because when
you go through the police department, like they have to
get all these they have to like pull like to
be able to pull the person's information and do all
of that, like that have to get a warrant and
all that it takes. It took months for me to
and then I found out who it was. And she
was pretending to be a guy too, so like her
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Instagram page was like a white man holding a gun.
You knew who it was? I found out, No, it was, yeah, please.
I finally got her information and when I found it,
it felt like she was like a mentally disturbed girl
or whatever. And I actually hit up her mom on
Facebook because I found her listening because I'm a detective,
my damnself. Once I find something, and I hit up
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her mom on Facebook and I was like, you need
to tell your daughter to stop doing X, Y and Z.
The police are gonna arrest her. And it stopped after that.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, she was It's been deep for me. Deep you
need a movie script for that.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I mean, it was brief, but you know what I'm saying, It's.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Like for me, it's been like pulling up to play
to multi with spots all over the world like d
ms and answering the d ms and you know what
I mean, M sending clothing items, ship.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Clothing items, panties.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Jaws sending jaws.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
You like, look at it, like, okay, these are cute?
Are they like nice draws, drawers, panties.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Jaws, jos. Yeah, there's been some nice jaws.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And you kept them or no, what would you be
doing with that? Do you? You never know? You might
be into that.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
You're right into that cant here, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
If you if you had to say you had a fetish,
what would it be.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I've done so much ship, I don't think. I think
fucking where I'm not supposed to be fucking.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like, that's the one I feel like. I like that.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, No, I like sex and places where you could
possibly get caught, right, Yeah, she's just like right, Yeah,
I like that, Okay, places all right, in places you're
not supposed to.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
What about you, Jordie, if.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
You have to say you had a fetish, well, we know,
minus voyeurism.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I like watching, okay, like a cook.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I've never been in a situation where somebody's that did happen.
I just didn't know it at the time, not like
it was just the windows were open and everything.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
But you haven't two fetishes me about it? Like yeah, yeah, wait,
did you say you like watching too?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, so you've literally watch people have sex in front
of you? Yeah, that's crazy, but somebody else like but not,
but just anybody? Yeah, I know, how does that even happen?
What about you?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Clear?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
If you have to say you had a fetish.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
M I don't know, I don't know what you're freaky.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Has had not realized they're taking a conver to that direction.
And I'm like, damn, whatever you.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Said, damn what about you do?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You know me, Chad spin the wheel?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Whatever the process.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
You guys at your toes I've had, that's crazy. If
people don't like, I'm not I'm not sucking toes. I'm not.
I'm not opposed to it.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
But I've heard girls say I'm not doing this and
I'm not doing that's so much, and they do it.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
They do it.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
I tried it.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You heard y'all say that too, by the way, yeah
so much.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
We heard y'all say, y'all a not eating on the
A lie.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
That's a lie.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But the statistics say otherwise, statistics.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I just don't want Nobody knows. They don't want to know.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Again, nobody has to know between those people. The secret
you never said ever, not even your wife. So well,
it's okay because nobody in here likes it. Anyway, I
think that's something that's overrated. Like people for some reason
think that women love getting their told. Doesn't it feel.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Like I'm never saying like I don't hate it?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Was okay, but it's cool.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
It's not like I'm gonna be like, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You don't get into a Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I'm not gonna do that, but I'm not gonna ask wordy,
yeah exactly, do.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Nothing do anything for you? Like, what is that little tingle?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
There's nothing to write home about.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Get out of here. Do you clean the toes first? Okay,
but you know, one time in the mood, I'm super clean.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
The one time my ex asked me to suck his toes.
I attempted to do it, but it's hard. He really
was just like I was like, no power thing. Yeah,
And I was like no, and he was like why not?
And I was like for what? And he's like because
you never did it? And I'm like, for a reason?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Were they?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I was like.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
So, if it's a fre fresh pity, you might try it.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
No, but I just want to know the circumstances that
people are letting that occur.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
There's a whole lot of things that It's a lot
of things.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Besides the feet.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yes, I will.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I will caress the feed. We could rub our feet
together all night. But I'm not getting in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
So you're rather eat booty and such.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I would rather put my tongue in your booty hole.
You've done that before, absolutely before I put your toe
in my face.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Hoold. This is a part of the shore where you
skip over asking me all of that ship you not?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You do none of that, so we know he's like
I just like my toe sucks.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Ago.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I never remember I'm a married man. I don't want
to be putting my wife business out. There's some business
in Japan.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
What I did before in a Turkey bath house in
the bathhouses.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Weren't you Okay, tell me about but you're you're naked
in Turkey, Oh, the Turkish bath house.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
If I hadn't lose my hairline, I might go to Turkey.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Your hairline is amazing. Congratulations for that. I've never been
I mean, last question, everybody with you. You guys don't have
great hairlines, so congratulations. This is a hairlines squadd This
is the part of the prerequisite if you're on the work.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
We got it.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
All right, So you have no fetishes, Cleo, I guess
not now.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
That I can think of.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
You said you like your man likes or are you
like a submissive? What you consider I.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Feel like you would be submissive?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
And yes, I would consider myself submissive.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yes, because in every other aspect of your life you
might be very like.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
But in bet I'm not.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I listen. You know they say men with a lot
of power also can like to be submissive, and yeah,
you feel like you're submissive at home?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I got a problem, like I can't even I can't
even like I need to fuck to.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Not okay aggressively. Yeah, because of the way you said.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
That I need to fund that. I said, fuck not just.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I think we need another shot. You want to shot?
I just got here. Okay, you're going to do it.
Everybody's doing it because we are celebrating. And you know
what The album is called Pool Party, which as we know,
means that it is a fun time.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yes, that's what it is. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So you feel like right now, the fun is the
fun is what's needed. Even though there are parts of
it that are more introspective.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, you know, I kept those to a minimum because
the concept behind the album was I'm looking at the world.
I'm looking at what's going on. Everything is so serious.
Everything is like wars and ice and natural disaster. I
didn't want ten years from now, fifty you or something.
Now people listen to that those songs and be like
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it takes them back to this moment in time.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
You want them to feel happy.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, because when I think about Galla b Broke, I
feel about people be like you. I remember when I
was in college and our people be like, yo, no hesitation.
I might say that's how I got my kids to
this song or girl gave me some.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
One's memories that I'm yes and.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
To new memories.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
We love that.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
You're right about that. When you think about that's a
great mom.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I'm not going to respond to that.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
That you would you like, people are going to have
baby songs like tight and good That and good Rich
I want to and not fucking Forgot. That's the remix
album with this, She's like, let me taste it with that.
You're right there because those songs. You have songs that
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are like for me. Think about classic dance hall. You
have several songs in that, you know, which I think
heavy rotation to this day.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah yeah, And I feel like with the album, that's
what I want, Like I have songs that people be like, yo,
I was vibing too this when I was going through
this struggler, you know what I mean. This reminds me
of what it's hard time that I have and when
people come to me and be like yo, this reminded
me of this great time. It feels a bit of
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am a sul like I feel like thinking about the
struggles and thinking about the problems long too long to
stay with you.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And sometimes I feel like maybe you needed that too.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Hell yeah, I needed that for yourself. Hell yeah, I
needed that because like there's so much I went through
and no wan that become who I am.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
That exchange is positive. Energy is always important.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I'm all about energy.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You've also been doing some soca too, which I love
that for you could I love soca also and the
Carnival time.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Listen you see me on doing Carnival like I'm out there.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's so could be
hitting too. I feel like right now is a great
time for all of that too. And you do like
I feel like you've done a lot of afrobeats collapsed.
They love you over there too. You know, people could
really take notes from you, because I feel like a
lot of artists in that space. Everybody is trying to
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figure out how to go global. Yeah, you know, is there,
but there's no real blueprint, you think.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
And I don't think I have the blueprint either. I
feel like I didn't start out thinking, Yo, this is
what I'm going to do. I'm going to do this
and then do this and then I'm gonna you know,
I didn't feel like that. I love you the.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Blueprint because you just did it. It wasn't a plan,
it wasn't a structure, It just naturally organically happened. And look,
six months later, y'all didn't even know that they.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Was checking for you'll on Japan.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Hey writing a book? Yeah, you know what I mean,
But I can't take credit for it, and like, I
had to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Have you ever thought of have other artists come to
you for help? Really? Okay? Yeah, I think that's important.
And just also to see like how dance has been
so lit just recently, seeing everybody who couldn't travel before.
People don't understand how important it is to be able
to come places and perform, to see Beanie Man, to
see Vibes Cartel. You know, I'll be going to all
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the shows. Yeah, but really connect with your people, Bounty Killer,
to see everybody that's like able to you know, move
around now. And it's selling out shows. But that's good
for everybody, yes, you know, everybody, because it also makes
businesses understand how marketable.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
And profitable the genre can be. Because wise it's like
Dan Saul was this, it was like a side dish.
Everybody love it, but nobody had it as the main course,
you know what I mean. Like you'll find like a
huge artist be like you all want to tap into
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this audience or whatever, and then call it being in
Mane called Sean Park. But then it's time to appreciate
dancehalls as a main genre. It's never been at that point.
I feel like this is the moment where you know
it's going up. It's at it on a nice trajectory,
and it's just up to the artists and the different
promoters and the fine to like help push it over
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that that that edge word can't be taken down again.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I think you more than anyone, has also done a
ton of collapse too, outside of just your own practices
working with a lot of different artists, Yeah, big and small.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
What's your favorite collab that you've done outside of like
any Jamaican.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Artists outside of Jummi, A kind of artists. Damn, I
would say that. I wouldn't say it's one. I would
say it's anything in the Latin market because those pub
checks look.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
About the money.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean naturally, I'm a fan of every genre.
I wouldn't say everyone. A lot of genres, So I
wouldn't be doing a song just because it's the genre
is popping. I'll be doing a song because I love it,
so I feel free going in. So if the bag
is good, that makes it like icing on the cake.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Capricorn answer, Capricorns, all us over here, amount.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Of money Christmas by January third, January eleven.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
We're supposed to be bestie signs.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Gemini.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
What about Chris Brown though, I mean that was a
moment to the goat.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
He just heard it some I was the album was
with Empire, and GHAZI reached out to him and he
was like, Yo, that's dope, I know it. He did
a verse and sent it back. I don't know who
which one of his friends is Jamaican.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Yeah, eight, Chris, he'd be eating with them, like Global
features and stuff. Because he did something with Maman too.
I was like, he's good.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
What do you mean, christ Chris Brown all Michael Jackson, Chris.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Brown, and Michael Jackson for what though.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Jackson, even Chris Brown would say, Michael Jackson wife.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Michael Jackson is is a different status. It's a different
it's it's just different. He's been doing it since he
was a kids.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Exactly about the Jackson five, Jackson five, he died think.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
About thriller he ever like about the video for Thriller alone, but.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
That was even from the Jackson Fox to his early years.
His just he just ate the whole way.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Through all of that.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Yeah, I know you, but I know he's got My
favorite was Off the Wall and it was made.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
And it was so check it all right. Because I'm
a Chris Brown advocate, You're.
Speaker 6 (42:15):
Supposed to love Chris Brown. But we know that Michael Jackson.
If Michael Jackson is before Chris Brown, that means that
he's basically Chris Brown's father. And Chris Brown knows that.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, he knows like people, Okay, he knows like when
they get to a certain level. Right, it don't matter
how like personally what you feel. You're a product now
and people are free to talk about you, so it
don't matter what you think. But no matter what the
fans think.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Let's argue not even that Michael Jackson is entirely more
universal than.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Chris Brown could ever be.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Thank you, unfortunately, product that that product is gonna sell
more compared I've been for.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
The last sixteen years. Imagine comparing somebody's Bob Marley.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
He's so Michael Jackson.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Want to say this now that we no longer unfortunately,
and it was yesterday that was the anniversary of his Right,
now that we no longer have Michael Jackson, Chris Brown
is what we have. That's as far as performing, as
far as giving it, killing it, just all around entertainer.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Nobody is beating Chris Brown in my.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Eyes, but all could be to go viral and don't ship.
So you saved, That's what would that take. So let's
let's tone it down and dancing Chris Brown, Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Michael Jackson is at the moonwalk, Michael, what else? Michael Jackson,
Michael accident the moonwalk, dancing Michael Jackson. But Michael Jackson,
Michael Jackson when it came to choreography, they always talk
about it too, how it was working with him, and
he's always created his own stuff. And that's what I
(44:14):
was going to say.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
Not only is his choreography top notch, but Michael Jackson
has his own style of dancing.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah. I think if Chris Brown was sitting here, he
would say, Michael.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Jackson, Michael Jackson knows how to dance like Michael Jackson.
Chris Brown hanging with some Jamaica and he a Jamaican dancer,
(44:52):
Like that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Is a chameleion stands with James Brown.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Reverse on my song I'm a Jamaica on You was
like not the other way. Jim Hunting that nigga was
a Jamaica on myself. Right with that view on whisky,
he's doing that nice jamreal swag. It sounds like American,
but it's not party.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Nobody down his talent at all.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
He is.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
But I think that time periods have to be taken
into consideration too, because it's such a different day and
age musically, how much we can be connected globally as
opposed to what it was like back then. And the
access that people have to be able to do the
music in a different way where you don't have to
be in the studio that's expensive, where you got the
reels and you.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Got to I think, I think, I think I'm in
a spot where I can call it what it is
because I was like, I won't say I was there
for Michael Jackson, but I know enough and I was
there for Chris Brown. It's like the Lebron and MJ convo.
If you were there to see all of that, then
that's who you can. You're in the best position to
(46:02):
give your take.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Can you move walk and say when you go and
look out his social media from him coming to New
York and how he came out dressed earlier.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Listen, he had to change, he was he was.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
A fool party for real. I mean it was hot.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
He sent me back inside real quick. He was he
was looking sweater.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
You know that would be hyped for the summer and
they come out in the shorts and.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Right, it's one of those days in New York City.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
So do you think you're good in bed?
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
You know you didn't have that confident.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I know, I know that was the way he said.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
I how do you know, Like, you know, women fake
orgasms all the time, but every woman except me, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
You're like, pack it up.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
If you don't, I'm gonna turn into.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
How do you know you're good in bed?
Speaker 3 (47:12):
I think I'm more of the build up, Like even
even before I was married, I'm more of a you're
you're so excited about getting there, as like half the
job has already done. You gotta be even if you say,
for instance, you took an uber, you gotta send me
(47:32):
photos in the back of the uber telling you what
to do to yourself, send me a photo. So the
bill is always the anticipation, even before you get there,
you're already there. So maybe I don't know if I'm
good in bed. Maybe it's just.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Like this, yeah, because I feel like you have a
lot to live up to, you know, just because of
your music, people have like may have had expectations.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
I used to live up to it, and my wife
thinks I live up to it now.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Does she tell you like, yeah, hell yeah, that's all.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
You like side. I was like, you know, I don't
have our wife's side.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
So do you talk in bead? Hell ya, it's chatty.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, she's going to be so embarrassed. Why because I
was about to mimic her tone, But.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
I don't do her like that.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Women do that because they want you to hurry up.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
She get loud.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, Angela, sorry, that's like.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
Cheer him on.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
You're doing great, baby. Honestly, that is the quickest way
to speed it up.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Was there ever job you think when you first started having.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
She got to touch what you have with the voyeurs
and things like.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Wat Yeah, wait, are you going to like swingers clubs?
Speaker 3 (48:59):
We've been there, you have?
Speaker 6 (49:02):
Oh my gosh, I was shocked by Now I'm shocked
by the.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Respond but I'm not at the level where she can
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Yeah together, Yeah, yeah, you're just chilling out watching see
now that now that's that's the first thing.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
That's the song. Yeah, it's going to get me to
write a song so.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Bad ideas want to be an inspiration, the services, educational inspiration, inspiration.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
You guys.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Right, yes, blood, So you've been the swingers clause? That's wow?
What if have people recognized you ever? They have? Yeah, okay, taken.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
And they would have put him think about.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
It and do all of that. But there's certain things
you just won't do. That's interesting, it is right, very
What about squirting? You remember the first time you got
squared it.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
On so years ago?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Was you surprised?
Speaker 3 (50:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Did you know what it was?
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (50:13):
Did you know what it was?
Speaker 3 (50:15):
So many times before?
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Actually, so like wait what.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
I sucked a lot of times before I actually nudded why.
I don't know, I just couldn't not really. I started
super early, though. Listen, I've been fucking from fucking before.
I've been fucking before. I knew there was a hole
in the pussy. I thought it was like the front,
minds the front, Yeah, it's the front like google do yeah,
(50:43):
Google Google?
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Like hunching, like just.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
What it is? Grinding yeah, so no insertion, no insertion.
So when I realized that there was something else, act,
oh wow.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
That's like how I learned.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
When did you start having say, ridiculously early.
Speaker 6 (51:03):
Age sounds ridiculously Yeah, that is early.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
I think the first time I not was that was
a horror movie too. First time I note was the
tenth grade. Eleventh grade. Yeah, and I was like hunching
or grinding from like the eighth grade.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Okay, terrible, yeah, because you weren't actually having sex.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yeah, I'm like, you know what you was doing. It's
like the Amish people you were talking about last time,
the Mormons.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
The Mormons. Yeah, So when you were the first time
you ever ejaculated.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Horror movie?
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Why was it a horror movie?
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Because I was fucking this girl right and it was
the first time I'm experiencing coming and I was wearing
a condom and I nodded, and I'm like, what the
fuck is this macomb?
Speaker 6 (52:12):
You didn't know what it was?
Speaker 3 (52:13):
No, it was his first time because I've been working
for like two years, and but.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
You never had a wet dream or nothing before that,
or like mastiveated. Okay, but then you came about you
never you were never.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Master giving a funk about what they're teaching me and school.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
About whatever helps.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
You came in the condom and then what you came
in the condom?
Speaker 3 (52:34):
Yeah, And I pulled out and there was no condom.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
It slid off in her because you didn't know to
hold it and pull it out.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
I was supposed to hold on. It was like it
was in in like you go in there and get
it hell yeah, spread her out.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Oh my gosh, you get got it out.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
But when I got it out, of ship was empty hole.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
So prevacy scared you.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, listen. I went to my boy when I'm a dog,
and he was like, I was like, what what do?
Speaker 2 (53:11):
What do I do?
Speaker 3 (53:12):
I think I was like fourteen and he was like seventeen,
but he was big homie at the time, and he
was like, Yo, bro, give our I'm pepsy. I'm like,
what a plan? B? I'm pepsy. I'm like, yo, pa talent? Oh,
(53:32):
like yo, give her a pis went back to her,
gave her Panada. I'm pepsy, and.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
I was just worried about Jamaican plan B. Yeah, blood,
I think she wasn't ovulating.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yeah she did know what ovulating was.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
You don't now, but good thing.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yeah. So that was my first nut harbor.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Well, oh my good.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
After that, you made sure that condom came out every time.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
You didn't know how to put a kindom on proper. M. Wow.
That's funny though, because they do. He was he was
what he wanted to lie.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
I wasn't there. I was playing ball. I didn't even
talk about none of that.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
What did you think he would What did you think
you would have did if you didn't do music?
Speaker 3 (54:17):
I don't know. There was a lot of things before music,
Like I was in the streets a little bit hustling.
I was doing like a real job, several.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Jobs, Like what type of jobs?
Speaker 3 (54:28):
I was a shoe salesman at once.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Okay, we like to shoes.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
Yeah, and the girls were my main clients for sure.
I would compliment, and then he was complimenting. I never
got that far ever.
Speaker 4 (54:48):
Are you Are you able to guess women's shoe size
is easily because you sold shoes?
Speaker 3 (54:52):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Should we test this theory?
Speaker 3 (54:55):
All right?
Speaker 1 (54:59):
Don't eat the bottom? Mm hmm, you have small feet?
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna eight and a half.
Speaker 6 (55:07):
That's a good guest beside you. Eight the hanf Okay,
that is close, but is kind of.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Like the average, right, I think this is this is
bigger than your size though.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah, it's a little big on me. Yeah I had
to I had to get that. Yeah, but these are eight.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
Yeah, what is bigger than you? Though?
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah it's a little big.
Speaker 6 (55:29):
What about me? You can't talk with you? Will?
Speaker 3 (55:42):
It's bulky? Right?
Speaker 6 (55:43):
Check me?
Speaker 1 (55:50):
We all have yeah boom, yeah, I used to do that.
Speaker 6 (55:55):
Well.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Listen, I just want to say congratulations to you man
pool party, sir, and we need that for the summer.
I'm not going to do you. But you know, to say,
aside from all the time, I am a big fan
of yours, so I'm really excited always to you know
that we had a chance to talk during the pandemic.
But it's so happy that you got to come up
here in person and say but doesn't have a good time.
(56:17):
And I do think your conversation is so fun Thank you.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
And I'm glad you did. Asked me about eating ass
and no, no.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
No, we would never. I know that even if you
do it, you're not going to say so you know
what I'm saying, It's like not the conversation respect. No
com come into your beard and tells healthy it is healthy.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
Your stream pool party.
Speaker 3 (56:40):
Poor party at the tour, a poor party tour coming
and the poor party merch all the bikinis. Yeah okay
we're coming out.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Because he could dress to so you know the merch
is going to be amazing.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, the bikinis. No bikinna for money,
doing no money, said that, I make sure this is
lip service. I don't know know you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
It's so funny to me that you are so open
about swinging parties and all this other stuff. But then
you do all the line at what ladies, not that,
not that.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
And everything else.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
So anyway, but again, thank you so much for coming through.
We always have a you know, a good, great conversation,
and I'm happy that this album is out and that
you feel like you know, I know it started off
kind of deep, and we started the conversation kind of deep.
But I understand now talking to exactly what you mean
about like this time period things can be really heavy,
but you want people to go back and listen to
(57:43):
this album you know, later and be like, great, let's
have a let's have a vibe.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Yeah, hopefully you have a ten year old and you're like, yo,
this song made me meet my wife in a party,
and that's how my ten year old.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yes, indeed, all right, thank you, thank you so much.
We appreciate you, Lim serving
Host
Angela Yee
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